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Let's keep the momentum going!

Another win away from home please.

FUCK YEAH!


Swindon 6/4 to win.
A Swindon, Exeter and Mansfield away treble pays 13/1.

MDTs starting by 9am on the morning of the game.  A sign of returning enthusiasm?

1-1 draw

If we can get a win away at Grimsby on a cold wintery Tuesday night, this season may, just may be going somewhere...

(must stop getting carried away  :doh:)

Winning at home on Saturday is more important - we're going to drop points away from home eventually but need to improve our haul at the CG.

I think that would be fair enough.

Flitters has flagged up how difficult these long distance mid week games are, you can tell the squad is starting to creak and groan a bit with injuries, also 5 bookings starting to loom for the likes of Dunne. To get through these kind of obstacles and still get points is what gets you up.

A point might be doable, Grimsby don't score many and don't concede many, so a below par showing might be sufficient.

0-1 (Smith)

Didn't fancy us until this morning and suddenly feel very confident that we're going to win. 3-1 goals from Smith, Anderson and Mullin.

Would still probably take a point though.

2-0 Anderson, Woolery

0-0 tonight i think, we might nick a 1-0 we can't win away every time

Grimsby have not had a win in the last 6 matches. (4 league and 2 cup).

They have gone 4 consecutive home games without scoring (3x 0-0 draws and one single goal defeat).

The Grims havent scored a goal at home in the league since Sept 26th vs Colchester Utd.

They currently sit in 18th place on 23 points with 6 wins 5 draws 7 losses, scoring 19 and conceding 24.

At home they have played 9 won 2, drawing 4 with 3 defeats, scoring 14 conceding 11.

We have only ever won at Blundell Park 4 times in 21 meetings, and only ince (2003) in the last 14 matches since 1967, with only 2 draws in that time too.

2-1 defeat in front of 3,134 fans with 285 Town fans there, Dunne sent off.

Pre match mingling with the descendants of Odin in The Yarborough Hotel.

Not been here since Jan 93.
The late Paul Futcher played for them that night, as did the wonderfully named Jim Dobbin.
We lost.

Not seen the "Grimsby Army, Swindon Barmy" people for many a year.
Hopefully still keeping the faith somewhere.

Season is panning out ok so far.
Winning when not playing well. Check.
Battling until the very end to pick up points. Check.
Comeback win. Check.
Winning away at difficult Northern outpost in midweek. Pending.

Looking forward to some fish & chips later.
Sadly, unlikely to be a local catch in the former home of the largest fishing fleet in the world.
Bloody foreign fish, coming over here and battering our own fish out of a job.

Great stuff.  ^^^

Is that Mr & Mrs Mauler? Saw them last month, but doubt they'll haul over there from Leicestershire midweek...

Most likely Norwegan or Icelandic. Been a while since we had a cod war, I'm sure Brexit will put that right.

Back in the day, the Mariners would leave boxes of kippers about gratis to any visiting players, managers etc... I'd imagine the ref and lino could help themselves also as long as they kept quiet about it.

Ideal for a midweek game, spot of kedgeree for breakfast after the long haul back.

I don't know if that was them or not but there were a couple of blokes in their early 20s about 10 to 15 years ago that always had the flag in the Town End that said "Grimsby Army Swindon Barmy", used to go to many away games too.

No, it's not the Maulers.  There's a small group up in Grimsby that never miss a game.  Nutters.

I've always thought Mauler and Donkey should rebrand as 'Red Leicester'.  Not enough cheese references these days for my liking.

This will be the first time I've seen us play (apart from televised matches) since Bury at home last season, when Sendles-White got injured. Looking forward to it, but not confident.

It's not, but I'm about to leave Leicester with Mr & Mrs Mauler.🙂

Mauler doesn't really like cheese (I know, I know).

After a few beers last night and riding high on my 8/1 win on Saturday I had a brain wave, we’ll it was to me, so I put £1 on
2-0, 2-1, 3-0, 3-1, 4-0 & 4-1. 4-0 Pays £50 so fingers will be tightly crossed. Even 2-0 puts me in profit. Small steps and all that.

Good show the Leds.

What’s happened re iFollow? If I open the App there is no iFollow options at all. I can only see the options if I use my browser. I used to be able to watch games using a VPN but it says you cannot watch games live via a browser.

I’m fucking stumped.

Following Wobbly Bob about 4hrs behind and having a pint in The Yarborough. Last bumped in to Mr. & Mrs Mauler at Grace Road watching the T20 cricket. Hoping to see Swindon secure the sixth away win for the first time in history so as these things always let you down then it'll be 1-1 tonight.

Come on, keep up.
Moved onto The Coliseum in Cleethorpes.
Could be a wet one tonight, but thankfully it's still quite mild.

Think I can picture the Maulers, but gradual erosion of brain cells is making recollection more difficult with the passing of time.

The fish & chips was a big let down.
Gorse Hill does it much better.  :)

The whole thing is a shambles

Can't disagree there.

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Good lord that's an attacking line-up.

Hope one of them is correct  :wotjump:

I got an email from PayPal saying  they've cancelled my subscription for some unknown reason.

1-0 Swindon

Anderson 77th minute

2 changes and only 5 on the bench.

Very attacking indeed.

It's more a case of available personnel, only 4 outfield players on the bench, of whom only 1 is a midfielder. Dunne is on 4 yellows.... presumably we can recall Tom Smith at short notice  :hmmm: for Saturday.

Only 5 subs, injuries starting to mount; Hussey, McDermott, Elsnik, Linganzi and Conroy off the top of my head.

Would have liked Vigs to come back in as “RCC could have done better” is becoming a too regular occurrence for my liking but other than that the best from what is available.

Mullin?

Just been on the Grimsby forum 'the fishy' every single posting predict us for a win - don't you just hate it when that happens ?.

whoops - didn't realise there was another 5 pages,    anyway interesting reading and the majority predicting a win for the Town.

Would assume he’s injured but no mention of an injury prior?

We will miss Elsniks runs through the middle IMO.

No Swindon team has ever won 6 consecutive away games....that would be a bloody brilliant achievement.

Grimsby centre back pairing today have a combined age of 70!

We should be able to exploit them for pace!

The back 4 have a combined age of 151!

As I said previously Lou's 85/86 side did. Uniquely with no home games between.  You can discount the Boycott equivalent. Cup and league games should be treated separately for stat purposes.

My apologies I took the stat from swindon-town-fc.co.uk.

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Norris may not make the bench due to injury.

iFollow is using a curved lens on the camera, thats horrible.

But I've got both picture and commentary. Admittedly an empty pitch, but there's hope.

I've always suspected this must be a FL record of 6 consecutive away wins, with no home games between, just because it is such a rare occurence.... although sometimes like this season Newport started off playing all their games away, as the ground wasn't ready.  However it was a mere 3 games, a win and 2 draws.

Definately only 4 on the bench after Norris fails to make it.

We need to call Brophy, Smith and Twine back tomorrow. No excuses. They might not all be world beaters, but we will start cheating ourselves out of points if we don't use the squad.

If we are chasing the game tonight we will effectively have 3 defenders to look to. We might as well chuck Vigs on up front. He'd probably be a better bet up there than Robertson.

All Grimsby so far, their number 20 Jaiyesimi on the right wing is beating Taylor every time.

Not a bad turn out for a wet tuesday in Grimsby.

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Anyone able to watch on i follow??

Yeah but terrible quality

Just watched them score. No other problems tonight.

It's telling met it can't load the video

Poor goal to concede, bad defending letting the massive striker Matt pushed past the Lancashire I think with ease.

See my previous post!

RCC should be coming out claiming these crosses.

Nothing but errors from us. We're not in it at all yet.

Maybe it's not a bad thing

Our defence is still in the fucking dressing room.

He just doesn’t really claim any, I just don’t rate him like some do. All his saves are overly spectacular and his handling is pretty poor.

Worst I have seen us play so far this season, nobody playing well, all the strikers losing their footing and the defence not in the game.

This could get worse before it gets better.

Upside, that gives us a full bench.

Oh my word Gordon that was a terrible miss.

We are playing against 2 35 year old massive centre backs and yet we hoof the ball to Smith instead of keeping it on the deck and using our pace.

Cracking save by RCC there.

The only difference in the past few weeks is the defending to be honest.  Actually it is that a team is running at us, which is precisely how Barnet took us apart.  The forward play is much of a muchness - Smith at least gives you the prospect of holding it and bringing others into the game from time to time.

Another good save by RCC.

They are running rings round our defence.

1-1 nice! Anderson

WOW what a goal from 25 yards by Anderson, against the run of play.

Superb goal from Anderson.

OMG whats a brilliant goal by their keeper! 2-1 town!

Comedy goal.

The joys of football pinball roulette.

This could be the worst 5-5 ever seen.

Wow another save by RCC!

Matt OG officially but that was the keepers fault for our goal!

Not sure we have had 5 shots on target but they could easily have scored 5 against us.

So far one of them is 😉

Gordon and Goddard both passengers today, Smith not winning much either, not many options for players on the bench though.

Good save by RCC from a free kick.

Not the best first half, 1st 25 mins all Grimsby but we have come back into it since.

Possibly a fortuitous 2nd goal but I will take that.

Listening to the radio it does sound like a blood, guts and thunder type of game. Though it’s bound to settle down with tiredness and the conditions playing their part. There are more goals in this game, trouble is who’s going to score them? Cashout or not on the remaining three bets 🤔 tempted to cashout the 1-2 & 1-4 as I think 1-4 is going to be a stretch with they way the game is going, 1-3 more likely and judging by the cashout values so does the algorithms of their spread.

Looked, 1-0 down.
Set up printer, 2-1 up.
Marvellous. Even the printer install went well.

Let it run for 10/15mins in 2nd half then cash out at that score. can always reinvest

That was a penalty on Goddard.

How are someof you watching (or attempting to watch) iFollow? I thought it was only available if you were overseas?

Use a VPN ;)

VPN ;)

Grimsby have started well again this half, the ref/lino is/are a bit of a homer.

Thanks both.

If you need pointing in the right direction PM me.

The camera badly needs focussing. Worst I have seen for quality.

Careful, could be accused of being one of those "Just send me your bank details" scams. Are you originally from the DRC

Bad challenge by Smith, could easily have been sent off.

Fuck me, I was just contemplating your post and then HS comitted the fowl as wurzel Gummage on the radio nearly had a wank and the cash outs disappeared. When the yellow came out they suddenly reappeared....

Never. Was just joking  :)

Trust me, no money will pass through my hands!

Did you cashout or let it run a bit?

Back to the game...we still aren't playing very well and riding our luck a bit.

I think I trust you PV. What's your favourite cheese? (could be the deal breaker)

Bollocks

Not unexpected equalizer.

Thats betting. Hardlines. However, think we'll nick this 2-3. Priced at 3/1

The most smelly extra strong salt crystalized 24 month aged cheddar.

We haven't had a shot this half yet.

I trust you. Talking of cheese; hard cheese for Legends-Lounge!

Terrible defending all round. Too easy to get down the line, too easy to get the ball in, players unmarked, no attempt from the keeper to save it. We really have been very sloppy tonight, haven’t really started in fact.

Definately the worst performance for a long time.

Gordon off and Iandolo on...I would have taken Smith off.

The way we are playing we will lose this.

Preston nearly scores in the top corner. Good save.

~Oh bollocks!

We’ve been tactically poor as well. Not ran at their ancient back line at all.

Yep.

Exactly.

get in come on town!!!

Our defence has been run ragged by their attack all game, never looked like getting anything from this game even at 2-1.

Not had a plan this half at all.

F$cK, I thought that went in!

Vigs back in saturday imo

RCC made 4 good saves but I would have expected Vigs to have saved them also.

Poor defence for 90 mins. They got what they deserved.

Arse.

Results can paper over the cracks a little as we generally haven’t been that great most of the season. It’s as RobT says we don’t really dominate games we just generally have that extra bit of quality at key moments to nick it.
At times we do seem to get tactically outfought and ripped apart by unlikely teams and really struggle against pace and teams that take us on. I still reckon we’ll finish top 7 though as we are able to grind out results and the division is poor.

I think you're right PV. In fact, most of the team didn't perform tonight. If any of them did in any way, it was RCC.

And his inability with crosses is a big issue imo

The defence sells avon

Reminded me a bit of the Barnet game that one.  They ran at us and it worked a treat when they did.  Same old stuff though overall, lump it forward, see what happens.  As it happens, we could just as easily sneaked a win as lost by a bigger margin.  Atrocious standard of football, still on target for the play offs, which is all that really matters I suppose.

Yep never looked like getting anything today even at 2-1.

Didn't create enough chances, kicked long to Smith when we needed it played on the ground with pace to run at two geriatric centre backs who mopped up all the long hoofs, the defence didn't play as a unit and the 2 strikers and 2 wingers had a field day against us, even Preston had a poorish game.

We missed Elsnik with his runs through the middle, Gordon had the wrong studs/boots on, RCC could have done a bit better with a couple of goals.

We played the wrong tactics and it backfired.

Bad day at the office today, next.

Newport concede 2 in last two minutes and lose

Tough assignment with such a depleted squad. Saving grace that many of those around us dropped points too. Saturday is big now, and hopefully we’ll have some reinforcements back. Tempted to bring Vigs back in too.

You say that but we had a clear chance at the start of the 2nd half, we had the goalie make a blinder of a save, a free kick he had to deal with and one clawed onto the post.  On another day we get 6 goals, 6!!!!!!  It's very marginal from game to game, we just have enough up top for the division to have a better hand in the game of chance over a long enough period of games.  I haven't seen one game this season, bar Dartford, where we looked in control and on top, and I haven't seen a game other than Barnet where we were utterly undone.

 This was always a difficult game... we know this side doesn't much like midweek  league fixtures that's, by my reckoning p 4 l 4

 Then having no bench, just compounds the problem. On to Newport on Saturday, definitely a pressure game, the home form needs sorting if we are to challenge.

Guess who had them on his bet!

Not a fair comment on tonight's showing. Don't look to RCC for the blame tonight, he was fine. We were good on the edges - Purkiss and Taylor were sound, Woolery was very lively all game - but from back to front we had no control in the middle. The centre halves were pulled all over the place by Grimsby's attack,  Goddard was invisible all game, Dunne was mainly bypassed and nothing went through to Smith or Anderson (bar the one chance he took).

I’m not blaming him, but in the first half especially there were far too many crosses coming in that he wasn’t making any attempt to deal with. When you have a far better keeper on the bench RCC is going to get looked at.
We were poor in general tonight and majority of blame should rest on Flitcroft for his tactics (along with the defence) as their defence was ancient but we didn’t do what they did to us and run at them. We don’t dominate teams in any of our matches so games like this are always going to happen.

Er, didn't hear Norris did ankle in warmup :(

Vigs.."didn't want to comment" we'll see what's gone on from the video of the warmup. WTF? Did I miss-hear that? I thought he was on bench?


What's up with Mullin?

Mullin is injured, tweaked something in the warm up on Sat.

Essentially, we were forced to start with an attacking line up, due to lack of bodies in midfield.  Dunne can't foul atm, with a suspension hanging over his head.  Ideally you want to bring on the cavalry later in a game, not start with it.

Aaaah, Vigs withdrew from the warmup for mysterious reasons...

Thanks

I don't care how good he is, attitude like that stinks and makes the club toxic. Get rid

Well welcome back to aMoan fest thread, it's been a few weeks.

Do you actually know what’s gone on then, as we don’t and that’s part of the problem. I get the impression Flitcroft is no angel either so would be good to know before judging someone either way.

Flitcroft: "Lawrence has decided to come out of the game. I'll certainly find out what has gone on. We videoed the warmup and see where it's at." #stfc

Bury fans did say to expect this kind of thing, turning on the fans favourites etc

But yes, lets find out what has happened first

I’d like to see Vigs back in goal, but that seems to be looking increasingly unlikely if there’s some sort of ongoing issue.  It needs to be resolved.  It feels similar to the Caddis fiasco.

It's costing us on aswell as off the pitch imo. Nothing against RCC but I just feel the defence would be more assured knowing that Vigs was behind them. He was good in L1 so should be one of, if not the best, in L2.

Honestly can't imagine that any other team has the "unavailability" problems that we have.I mean 4 on the bench?Never heard of that before

The U18's had a game today, I'd suspect you'd be able to put more on the bench if they didn't have a game. Its weighing up them having a full 90 for U18's vs probably not coming on for the senior team.

Grimsby played at high tempo throughout, which we struggled to cope with.

If Goddard had taken that chance in 2nd half then probably game over at 3-1.

Hopefully just a minor blip and remedied with a win at the weekend.

Stop off in swindon, 2.5 hours to go.

They could/should have been 3 up after first 20 or so, we were all over the place and couldn't cope. Great strike from Anderson, lucky 2nd goal and then we looked comfortable until the break.

Always thought they would score again as they looked dangerous. We were unlucky not to get a third with goddards lovely counter attack strike but I don't have too many complaints with the result as the performance overall wasn't good enough today.

Officials were shite, blatant deflections being given as goal kicks pissed me off a treat.

Lack of subs was a big problem, hope we have some back for next game. Fucking long day, decent fish/chips, shit town, crap result but didn't have to see the mother in law - GET IN.

Cheers all,. That's a heck of a journey Plymred!

So with 4 bookings to his name does that mean Dunne will never play again?!

:D Dunne was invisible most of the game last night.

He's our only central midfielder currently fit, or in the case of Taylor, we haven't a fit LB to free him to play midfield.

His game is about competing for the ball so inevitably bookings follow, Flitters has told him he can't afford another yellow atm.

Looking at the highlights, all three goals, especially the first two, were shocking defending.

Let's see if Vigs makes the bench on Sat, bit concerning though, we know from his 2p fiasco previously he has a bit of an attitude and probably does not like not playing, but hopefully it is something that can be dealt with and move on, we don't want a player of his calibre and stature in the squad causing issues.

Not forgetting that while he is not playing his value is depreciating more and more

I don't think he has much of a value.... not many keepers move for a fee, and those that do have to be right place, right time sorts.  I think Flitters will try to offload in the window... rightly in my opinion.

Agree Reg. He can fuck off for all i care, always a drama with the bloke

Let's not assume until we hear more on whats has happened - everyone jumped to the conclusion he wanted to lease when he moved back to London, but people forget it is only down the motorway he does not have to live in Swindon

Talent can be difficult to manage, but that also takes a good manager. Who thought Ferguson would accommodate Cantona's behaviour? Vigs is a much better keeper than this level, and doesn't Power have £400k to recoup from somewhere? Is it all Vigs' fault, or might Flitcroft also be a bit of a blunt instrument?

Spot on.

I didn't, I assumed he was looking to rent initially and then buy outright.

 :D :clap:

Talent is also worthless without hard work and attitude. I'd rather a solid gk, rather than a precociously talented but inconsistent one who's a in the pain in the arse.

And it's not like DF is the first manager to have problems with Vigs is it? If he's not careful, he's going to end up warming the bench in L1/L2 and then drifting out the game.

Ferguson tended to show them the door as soon as they got too big for their boots..... pretty basic management.

I think you have to earn the right to get away with being a talented pain in the arse, something not often applicable to a 4th division goal keeper.

The tide seems to have turned very quickly on Vigs. He was virtually ever-present until a few weeks ago, and viewed as maybe better than Foderingham. I didn't see much questioning of his attitude in all that time. I wouldn't be writing him off just yet.

Its an odd one as ultimately no one (bar him and the club obviously) seems to know what has or in fact hasn't happened. I saw the other week the club were tweeting about certain things he was doing for FITC which would suggest that he is not too much out of favour within the club, although I suppose if you were looking for negatives you could interpret it as a punishment?

Not entirely without question.

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=56079.0

I'd forgotten that. Is that what he was given the fine he paid in pennies for? Still, he was on loan then and was subsequently thought worth spending proper money on, so someone thought it was manageable back then.

JayBox on the first page of that thread. Haven't seen him on here for ages!