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Adi Viveash leaving Chelsea after nine years at the club. More @MailSport soon

Just seen this on twitter....

 Ooh coincidence or not  :hmmm:

Hmmm very interesting.

http://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/adi-viveash-leaves-chelsea-joe-12995503

Very interesting indeed

Interesting, very interesting.. Maybe.

First thoughts if it come true: FFS, we are sticking with youth model, another unproven academy manager.

After 10 minutes:Lets suck it and see.

To be honest Viveash isn't really a player I ever much liked, hence no excitement at the prospect.

In July 2011 Viveash became Under-18 team manager at Chelsea having previously served as assistant Academy and assistant reserve team coach.[16] In June 2014, following Dermot Drummy's promotion to international head coach, Adi Viveash took charge of the club's Under-21 squad for the 2014/15 season.[17]

Viveash and Drummy?

If we are sticking with the model, then Viveash is as likely to be decent as anyone. Only time will tell, but at least he knows what the club is capable of.

Told you lot   ;) (I'm not in the know, was just a pretty logical guess)

Not for me. If he is on his way hopefully it's as a number 2.

I doubt he'd leave Chelsea at his time of life, to be a number 2. Must want a crack at management.

Not nailed on. Linked with Crawley too.

Yeah I agree he's got a good academy grounding and has as much chance as anyone at making it work.

I think its getting more obvious to me that ex-academy football player development isn't for me long term.

Of course I'll completely change my mind if the style of play changes and we become successful...He may even change things so we bring in proper div 4 players to support the ex-academy dross.

With the apparent Chelsea links from last season this is beginning to look like a bit of a no brainer.

Ticks a lot of boxes.

I'm listing pros and cons based on observations of what Town fans want.

Adi Viveash

Pros
- Swindon boy
- Educated under Macari, Ardiles and Hoddle
- Tonnes of Football League experience
- Plenty of contacts

Cons
- Not a Town 'hero'
- Some won't know that he played for Swindon
- Played for OXFORD - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
- Encourages the continuation of the current 'philosophy'
- It's Adi Viveash

Imagine if his (potential) first game in charge was as bad as the poor guys debut?

Feruz it is then..

good summary constanza

I don't think Feruz was getting many games in Chelsea's development side.

I wouldn't be wholly against Adi Viveash as long he has adequate support staff.

However my gut feeling, based on virtually nothing, is that such an appointment reeks of a mid-table finish.

Don't think he ever played under Macari? He wasn't the best as a player, but that doesn't mean anything when it comes to managing/coaching.

He could be great, or shite, or mediocre. No one knows until, or unless, he arrives.

(I think we should all save time by saying he'll be shit before he even gets the job).

Ossie gave him his debut but Viveash turned pro under Macari so I imagine there would have been training.

imho he needs to come in as an assistant, even if temporarily so he can learn the ropes of league football as going from chelsea under 18 & 21's to league football is a big step up.

He didn't have the greatest time at Town as a player did he? Not sure he'd be rushing back.

He wasn't good enough during the Ardiles and Hoddle era to cement a place and by the time Andy King resigned him, he was done.

don't think it will be amount the club but more of the opportunity to progress his career to the next level

The FB group are foaming at the mouth, it's going to be a fun few days  :D

Even more reason to give him the job.

Worn the yellow.should not darken this door ever again. Keep Swindon a scum free zone.

Viveash is in Swindon today according to the adver.

He lives in Bassett by all accounts

Him and Garry Hill dream team. Recently left Woking, worked with Power at Rushden

"just another Power puppet"  ;D

My fondest memory of Viveash at Swindon was him standing with the Town fans in the play-off game at the Withdean.

It's about the only good memory of that night too.

If it is him hopefully he remembers what it took Macari to get out of the fourth division, a team that was first of all fit, and (certainly from the outside looking in) a squad that was united.

Evens at Sky bet now

To be fair, most of them do that anyway

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/Achievements/Pic19900146_01.jpg)

Adi's in this pic... got to be good..no?

Chelsea technical director quoted as saying

'We wish Adi all the best for the next stage of his career'

Sounds like Adi has something lined up as opposed to a change Chelsea wanted to make.

I'm in this picture, about 2 to the left of Jon Gittens right hand, excellent day at Stoke that was

Not a Town hero is putting it politely.

Can't say I have much opinion on this. If we were the appoint him the proof of the pudding would be in the eating.

Does he think the 'development' philosophy and style will work in L2, if he does we are buggered before we start.

If he wants to (...is allowed to?) have in part the 'development' philosphy mixed in with some, want of a better term 'traditional lower league' philosophy we could be onto a winner.

On twitter.

Michael Beale was Liverpool coach who has since gone to Sao Paolo. Did read somewhere Viveash was linked to the Man Utd youth job also

Not good if he is appointed.

Shows we are sticking with the failed youth model.

If this is the case we will get mullered by other league 2 players

Find it amusing that Adver headline refers to him as a former "Swindon Town ace".  That's not how I remember him.

I knew we could count on you to give him a chance.

I remember when Town trained amongst the dog shit on the CG Extension... Adi had a broken leg, and was a sort of wandering about with the other lads, trying at least to be involved, poor sod had this compression pump clamped on his leg.

I thought, he'll never play again, but he did... which says something about his character.

All I really remember about Adi's Swindon career was his debut against Middlesborough a few days before his 21st birthday.

Coming on and playing left wing/midfield a role totally unsuited to him, and being a sub that was subbed after just 20 mins in a poor 3-1 home defeat.

Not even going to give him a chance whatsoever?

Sadly this will be the same mindset of many so whomever takes over will be on a hiding to nothing.

True that :no:

I remember that game, felt really sorry for him being subbed after coming on as a sub.

Not sure he touched the ball once but I do remember Stuart Ripley flying past him a few times down the wing and Viveash pulling his shirt back and getting nowhere near Ripley when he had the ball.

Looking increasingly likely that Adi will be coming here. Call me a fucking optimist but i'm a little bit excited....purely because he HAS to be better than LW. Doesn't he?  :cry: :cry:

fucking optimist.

I deserve that you c**t.  :soapy tit wank: :soapy tit wank:

Not being negative here, but this appointment just shows nothing changes really doesn't it.
Might as well have kept old Baldy

Nothing changes... except for the entire coaching team

Agreed. I spent all morning feeling quite optimistic - excited, even.
Then the realisation that nothing is going to change.

And there was me thinking that Williams and Viveash were 2 different people.

They are, but in league two, you need experience and not youth, this just tells me that we will be Chelsea under 23's next season again, so in that sense nothing will have changed.

Would love to be proven wrong though

you are probably right, but it's not inconceivable he'll tweak it with a few more older heads brought into the team.

even if it's just for a season.

that's if AV even ends up here

The amount of people that complain because he has no experience, but then get all defensive when someone points out that neither did Macari, Ardilles, Hoddle & Di Canio when they took the job.

Everyone has to start somewhere, and Division 4 is as good a place as any.

He might be shit, or he might be really good & fuck off somewhere bigger in a season or two (hopefully after getting us promoted).

The point is all the doom mongers saying its going to be shit really have no idea.
It's just as pointless as suggesting he is the second coming of the Messiah & we will be Champions League winners in 6 years

and football team

Brian Horton coming in as Director of Football

Viveash spent all his playing career in the lower leagues, would like to think he knows whats required down here.

Another fucking scummer

Power is having a giraffe with all these Pox links...

Brian Horton must be drawing his pension surely

Joey beauchamp coming in as coach and chief horse racing tipster

Sorry im bored

I agree with that. Also people are pointing out he wasn't a great player . Good players don't always make good managers, average players can make good managers.

But the inference that appointing an academy coach meaning that we carry on with a youth team isn't so silly and is concerning IMO. Really don't want to become Chelsea B by proxy, but moreover I can't see it leading to success in the long term.

That's not to say that's what will happen. We don't know anything. But in the absence of any concrete information it seems the most likely.

As far as Power is concerned if Adi can polish say a Feruz, and we finish 22nd then it's been a good season.

And you know this how?

Has it been confirmed then?

No, but you can see how the story ends ;)

Interesting that he was due to play in a charity game in his home town this afternoon, on the team sheet but didn't put in an appearance.  Didn't want to answer the inevitable questions.

Fuck noooooo. If you want all the worst predictions of the "Power out" FB lot to come true, then by all means, welcome Hill on board with open arms. His family would put the Agombars to shame

We never saw the best years of Viveash's career. Early on he was always back up for the likes of Calderwood and Shaun Taylor or filling in at left back. I can remember he came back from a loan spell at Walsall and looked OK but was bombed out by McMahon around 95. A year later McMahon let Shaun Taylor go and signed a succession of rubbish centre halves meanwhile Viveash established himself in as a decent player at Reading. By the time he came back under Kingy his legs had gone a bit and his lack of pace especially alongside Reeves got exposed.

You obviously havent heard Colin Hill and Keith Cousins are secret investors then ;)

Heard the rumour, seen no evidence. Garry Hill coming in would count as confirmation, fortunately this is a tansmedia classic. I hope.

Yeah im trolling mate, but who knows with this club

Would be a uninspiring choice for me, I would rather see Kenny Jackett or JFH. He could maybe come in as an assistant, I watched a fair few of our games on tv here in NZ and we were horrible.

Never rule anything out! If I had a quid for every time I've said "This would get rejected as a storyline on a ropey South American soap opera for being too far-fetched", I'd have, erm, some more money than I do now. Probably about £23 or so.

As hyperbole goes, I've done better

Are you in Christchurch? My brother is a member on here and lives there too

Going by his email address he is your brother you tool.

Hahaha fuck sake, he used to have a different username

 

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

DV, do you still hold a grudge for his dive in the pay as you play game at the CG :D

you are a spanner James. thats from years ago, lets hope he has moved on.

Fucking hell there are tans' everywhere! It's like some (lovely) horror film

Yeh we pop up everywhere, i do happen to play football with a Swindon fan and a City fan. Also play indoor against a Swindon fan as well. few of us about the south island.

Hi

Another tans mong. FFS

All people living in Christchurch either have webbed feet or are simply
 one eyed......... whoops they must come for Wilts  :)

 

Viveash being linked to other elite academies is interesting but I just don't think Chelsea's statement would have been as glowing as it was if he was off to Manchester to coach.

Unless Chelsea don't care about that sort of thing...

Would be unlike Power to 'get business done early'.

Rumours he's off to manage Walsall

Yeah he is well thought off too at walsall i think

The irony is that if he was appointed people would moan and said people will also moan if he goes somewhere else as I bet we'd get the 'can't even avoid Viveash' line.

And they'd moan that we couldn't get Viveash without even knowing whether he was a target at all.

He's a hero at the Bescot. I'm not sure he'll be given much chance here next season.

Wouldn't describe him quite as a hero there but they do like him, he had 6 solid seasons with them.

There are no rumours that they are about to sack Jon Whitney though but they had a poor season so its not beyond the realms of possibility.

FH has it spot on though.

Viveash to Walsall is more-or-less the equivalent of Shaun Taylor managing Swindon.

A lot of people would have convinced themselves that Viveash was coming to Swindon as it's very similar to the appointments of Ling and Williams. What a moderately interesting coincidence that would be if he went elsewhere.

He seems to have ruled himself out. unless he's gone Chang.

As things stand, I doubt there's a queue of decent candidates for the job....

You would say that..

I think in an ideal world we'd like to see a quick appointment of a credible Div 4 gaffer, who could then get on with preparations for 17/18 season. We don't live in an ideal world.

Don't Walsall already have a manager ?  Might be a nonentity but is Jon Whitney not still in charge?