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It does exactly what it says on the tin.

Personally, I want an untried player/manager type.

I want anyone famous.  8)

An experienced but obtainable manager like Gary Megson for me.

Alan McCormack, Alan McCormack.. ALAN.. ALAN

as Player Manager.

We aren't going to get an experienced pro so that leaves us with a lower league success or a first timer.

We've had great luck with first timers through the years, so it's a name for me.

Take your pick :-)
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik

I want the bloke called Quim

All the ones I'd like are unrealistic. Jackett would be top of my list!

Malpas. Or Hart.

Someone with lots of L2 experience such as Dave Jones, Martin Allen etc

Early thoughts:

Chris Ramsey (ex Spurs and QPR, not the comedian)
Jimmy FH

Outside shout:

Alan Stubbs

Take your pick from this list of TEF favourites:

Paul Tisdale
Sheena Easton
Dave Hockaday
Paolo di Canio
Steve Cotterill
Steve Lomas
Ian Culverhouse (for DV)

Fatbury

er,I agree with Gillman.

not sure it's possible unless 'the model' is abandoned

Martin Allen, Nigel Adkins, Paul Ince, Gary Megson or Brian McDermott for me.

Would he bring Cominge back?

Will they appoint another Head Coach or will they appoint a Manager and remove Sherwood. Hopefully (not likely) there is some suggestion of this in the club statement later today.

Most of the names listed so far here are cunts anyway like M Allen and N Adkins, but luckily neither of those pricks are going to work as a Head Coach.

Yep

Dave Jones as in the one sacked recently by Hartlepool?

Prefer - Danny Cowley or Jimmy Floyd Hasslebaink.

Likely - Chris Ramsey or Luke Garrard.

Probably - Dermot Drummy or Alan McCormack.

someone like him, not actually him

Davy Jones from the monkeys..

Not the one with the locker, then?

Lou Macari/Glenn Hoddle combo

PDC as fitness coach

Stephen Hawking would make a better fitness coach than what we have had this season TBH.

Same here. Scott Parker would fit the bill.
In theory Power could still make a profit on a manager with a buy out clause of some sort or add on if they go on to manage in the PL for example.

Failing that, dig out someone who is making their way in / having some success in non-league.

Gavin Rose has worked wonders at Dulwich Hamlet, he's also currently refusing to sign a new contract, due to issues with the owners. Admittedly I'm a bit biased on this one, as they are my other team.

Good old Hamlet, loved those pink shirts, lived up the road for years so a soft spot for me too, specially in that great old ground.

Someone like John Still knows our level better than anyone in the game. He'll know the leaders at that level be they players or current managers. I'd pay him as a consultant to recommend a hungry young man, not necc a big name, then ask him to mentor whoever he suggests for a year as they learn the ropes. He'd know straight away if someone like Gavin Rose is up for it.

I'd rather Mike Nesmith, if we're going down that route.

I think Alan Mac could get it

Someone young, forward thinking and dynamic but with some experience/success.

Realistic options: Waddock, Garrard, Shaun Derry (if he brings Luke Berry with him!), Ainsworth, Marcus Bignot

Please not: Megson, Allen, Wilson, Evans, Jones, Cotterill

Think Chris Ramsay is likely, based on nothing other than a hunch.

Also, looking at what Nathan Jones has done at Luton, I'm certainly not going to write someone off if they come from that background of a highly qualified but inexperienced coach.

Wouldn't surprise me, but he's not really boss material, better off where he is.

Dont think he would want the job anyway

If he's got any sense, he'll look at what's happened to Williams and stick where he is.

Is Ady Viveash still at Chelsea? Would make sense

I agree but people have ambitions and I think he'd fit the criteria.

If we could get someone in to do it his way, without interference then I'd go for mad dog Allen

No thanks, his uncle was bad enough.

If it is to be believed, then the job will be advertised, like any other job.... spec outlined, pay etc, and then see who applies. Get a shortlist and do interviews. Power could earn himself some cred with the fans if he put a fan on the interview panel.

The Trust fella Mytton talks sense

If he's prepared to take a pretty substantial pay cut and risk his reputation being trashed. Williams will act as a cautionary tale to a lot of coaches wondering about using Swindon to take a step up from Academy coaching to manager

Jackett would be stand out choice for me.

Luke Garrard would be the punt that could be worth taking. Done wonders on a tiny budget in the conference

Hopefully whoever does get it, is given 2 years. 5 year contract was just idiotic

On the canteen board at QPR

To encourage a broad range of applicants the advert should have the "experience preferred but not essential, as full training will be provided" line.

2 ways to look at that though. Some may admire the way he was given longer than he should have been

You haven't seen the fans page on facebook then; a lot of our fans are mouth breathing types

No I haven't, people keep referring to this mythical place, but I've no desire to look. I can imagine what it is like.

The whole facebook thing has largely passed me by...

Try Myspace

Simon Ferry's up for it:

still no official comment...

thought they might have simply been caught on the hop by the news leaking, but a bit slow getting a statement out aren't they?

Its only been a few hours...

In terms of new manager - anyone who has more nous about how to win a football match than Williams  approach.

Dulwich Hamlet eh?  My uncle used to have a season ticket to the old ground by the railway, used to stay with my gran in the flats on Dog Kennel Hill!!  Memories!!!

The new ground is next door to the old one, which is now a Sainsbury's, so still on Dog Kennel Hill.

Used to live very close.  Well Barry road in East Dulwich.  Lovely part of London (until the end of the road when you're in to Peckham)

Yes, had a wander around a couple of years ago - they have had some decent players through their hands over the years.

Paolo Di Canio

I'm really not up to speed with whose who in management anymore but Jackett has always done a decent job higher up the pyramid than we are currently.

If we could tempt him, great do it.

If not, I'd like to see us try the 'new manager' route

As opposed to the 'no manager' route?

Well, you could argue we've done that a few times

As in new to management - rather than a managerial merry-go-round manager who has been sacked countless times before and never achieved anything anywhere but somehow keeps getting jobs.

I'll settle for someone who has basic competence.

The chances of getting someone though are slim... Power is going to have to trim the budget, by a £mill, and then presumably still be paying Luke off, unless he can agree a lump sum, out of the proceeds of any Vigs sale.

Anton Rodgers player/manager.

I'm guessing, but there's no way LW's contract was actually 5 years with no break clauses. I'd be very surprised if he's due anything more than a couple of months.

He is. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/video-chelsea-u21-coach-adi-viveash-scores-casual-chip-training?utm_m_medium=t

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Of course we'll never know, but the LMA are pretty hot on making sure their members, get what is due to them.

He'll get what's due in his contract, as he agreed. Anyway, he's gone by mutual consent, not sacked, so a package has obviously been agreed.

Chang should be the new manager. He's got some amazing contacts in the game and as we all know, he's got all the answers.

Luc Nijholt, has experience in bringing through youth in his current employment at Dutch side AZ. Also has international experience (albeit with Qatar).

All he'd need to do is predict a defeat before each game and we'd be undefeated all season!

Jackett for me, but unlikely to happen, I couldn't see him working in the way that Power works.  We will end up with a cheap option no doubt.

If we go down the cheap route let's take a punt on a new manager/ex player..

Saw Scott Parker come on for Fulham against Leeds a couple of weeks ago - he would make a decent player/manager shout!

I know he hasn't managed since he left Port Vale, but I thought the chairman's comments about Micky Adams were interesting.

 "I did not realise what a big asset Micky Adams was until he left us who, in reality, he was much more than just the manager. On his departure I became vulnerable without his structured management of the football department."

We need someone to manage the football department, although that may not be how Power sees the role !

I keep hearing the name Scott Parker popping up. I must confess I've no idea who he is.

Why does his name keep popping up over others? Does he have links to Power or something?

No. Sonic Youth loves him and he's managed to create a movement  :)

Scott Parker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Parker

 :eek:

Ex player for Newcastle, Charlton and others, managed at Port vale for a short period....... apart from that don't know if he has any links to Power, maybe because he is an ex-player like PDC / Wise / Hoddle / Macari that he might be a good "cheap" manager.

What's 350+ Premier League appearances to someone when you're supporting a lower league side while living in Thailand?

Who was sacked at Norwich? Gave us Toffolo, a goalkeeper and cash for Thompson? Alex Neil?

More likely though to be the bloke who was a manager up in Scotland who was shortlisted when Ling got the job.

Must have managed Port Vale in a parralel universe!

Steve Evans has instigated the beginning of the end of his career at Mansfield.................

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39816162


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Exactly. It may sound odd to you lot over there initially, but I only follow STFC. I'm not much of a neutral fan and rarely watch/follow anything else. There's no reason for me to know of him (although having just googled him I was surprised to see he has England caps)

I bet I know more about the lower leagues than a lot of football 'fans' in the UK, though.

(The question mark made my comment read sarcastic but I wasn't joking)

There are definitely a few recent England internationals/up-and-coming PL England prospects that I could pass in the street without noticing. That wouldn't have been the case a few years ago.

No worries, I didn't take it as a slight.

The ones I do know about are the ones the press will go on about, other than the sport's pages. I suppose Scott Parker is not the type to get himself into trouble or in the limelight for whatever reason?

Parker was excellent for Spurs and always came across as a decent chap. Completely the opposite kind of player to one we'd ever play, though.

Player-managers are a dying breed these days, aren't they?

The likes of Rowlands and Nolan only register themselves in case of an emergency.

Must have, I don't know why I had him down as player manager at PV at some point...... mind playing tricks on me

Think Panda Paws mentioned him, I'd like Marcus Bignot. Seem to recall it seemed odd/harsh that he was sacked from Grimsby so reckon he deserves another crack at league management.

God I hope not. Hopefully he'd rule himself out anyway:

"Evans told BBC Radio Nottingham he was "not a League Two manager"."

No, you're a cheating tax fraud criminal who shouldn't be in football.

Yes, surely his time has finally come...

Well. He's already got two Swindon Town relegations under his belt...

Champion Hill, in the '70s: big old crumbling terraces, used to hold 20,000. Really atmospheric with 200 there at night (180 of 'em in the bar tho....), floodlight pylons like ours.

A place where the likes of John Still got their bargain basement gems.

Nijholt would be the kind of appointment that would be dramatically disastrous or stupendously successful.

Perfect.

Indeed, he knows us well.

I bet his hair style is exactly the same.

quite. My reservation (other than not knowing if he's any cop) is he's one of my all time favourite players - I'd hate to see that tarnished!

Incidentally do we think the search "is well under way" means they have someone in mind, or  just generic babble?

can see it being Chris bloody Ramsay to be honest.

Would like to see Paul Benson given a chance if not as Manager then Assistant

I expect they started putting the feelers out weeks ago.

Blimey, lived in Barry Road too, near the Clock House. Newlands Arms across the Rye, saw all the pub rock bands there - Dr Feelgood, Ian Dury, Ace, Mickey Jupp, Kursaal Flyers, Strummer's 101ers.... happy daze. Left early '80s, areas totally changed now.

As to a manager: it'll be a Power mate, so I ain't losing sleep over it.

If he's not still playing he'd have gone back to his job in the City.

I am sure I heard his name last night during the D&R and FGR game

Yep I did - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Benson

I have to agree 100 percent

I think Waddock is a very good choice

Who ever it is will be a shit cheap appointment.

yeah because you can predict the future obviously! Every post you ever make is repetitive and beyond negative.

Must be from the FB group  ::)

Was Lingy "cheap and shit"  ;)

This thread has been a great read. Highlights so far have to be John Still being given a mentoring role, Steve Mytton being on the interview panel and a serious suggestion for Gary fucking Waddock.

Keep it up please fellas.

Lived half way up above Barry Road stores.

Just realised that was Ian Baraclough (Sligo & Motherwell) who has now been made NI U21 manager

Neil Adams was the Norwich contanct wasn't he?

Baraclough declared interest in the Town gig last time round.

Good god. Oxford bastard

Almost as good as your predictions eh?

Tbf, Chang is right there

Some fans like continuity, a lot of players in contract etc but for me this summer is going to be exciting. A high turnover of players, loads of rumours, lots of unknowns, getting to find out the new hero or Rodgers. And now we have a new manager to add to the mix. Going to be a fun summer

Yep, should be interesting.

I don't anticipate this managerial recruitment drive taking a long time like Martin Ling's appointment (even though we all knew it would be Martin Ling long before the appointment).

exciting yes.

good or bad I'm not sure.

And your knowledge of him is what?

Me? He gets no-money teams promoted or into play-offs, polishes turds better than most, has the fittest teams in the league, has an encyclopaedic knowledge of lower league football. He's the only manager I've seen who used to clear a terrace at halftime as everyone stands outside the dressing room listening to his halftime team 'talk' (Leytonstone/Ilford).

And given freedom of the borough in Dagenham and Luton.

But no, why would we want to tap into that knowledge?

'Cheap option' seems to be the new 'what about the Ajose money' in terms of it basically meaning 'I'm not going to debate this properly, I'm just going to growl and repeat this phrase"

I'm taking it that Embleton has gone too and the Sports Scientist?

For me I'd go tap up "John Still and take him from D&R. Give ^Scott Parker a coaching role to learn from Still.

When Still finally wants to retire in 3years, we'll be mid table in the Championship and have a ready made replacement**



"  This is the most serious part of my post.
^  My suggestion of SP is based on Dreamland.
** An indicator of sarcasm re:championship.

Might as well poach John Coleman if we go down that route.

Anyway, John Sitton for manager!

Who was the Norwegian SY wanted before? What's Drillo up to?

I don't care what he's achieved but the man had his own ice cream ffs.

I  think you've all missed the obvious point that it'll be Pat Fenlon, currently steering a booming Irish club called Waterford towards promotion, and has the experience, calibre and a random Swindon link too...

That he was born the day we won the League Cup in 1969 could be coincidence, but we know that it is our fate, destiny and ten years worth of Christmas presents sorted, all rolled into one.

Other than that, it's nice to play along so - Tisdale, Jackett, JFH or Neill would be a genuine lift; Ramsey, Dermot bloke, Hockaday or Macca more underwhelming but more likely.

(Serious point re Fenlon:  Power has gone with a big name manager and expensive squad to get Waterford promoted, and the approach is working...top of the league and averaging 1,500 compared to 300 last season...I wonder what he'll take from that...)

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Edit: sorry, wrong Irishman.

My uncle is friends with Martin O'Neill actually, maybe I'll have a word

Tor Ole Skullerud. Missed the boat on that as he's now at Strømsgodset.

I'm only half joking about Parker. He's the type of experienced ex pro I'd be delighted to see given a go, he can certainly still play as well

sorry Christy, but expensive at Waterford is quite different to expensive at stfc.

I guess it was said out of hope but I just can't see the club affording an expensive gamble. which is fair enough.

I'd quite like Hasselbaink, but that is somewhat unrealistic

Seriously, anyone but Dave Hockaday.... Great player etc. but his voice just grates and makes me want to crash my car on my way home from games, preferably into some livestock or something equally satisfying.

I'd personally like to see Adi Viveash take the huge step down (in quality, class, surroundings, facilities, players etc) and be the man to take us up, but he's got too much of a good thing going at Chelsea.

Someone who at least looks like he gives the players a proper slog pre-season to get them at least looking remotely fit on the playing field would be a start.

Not sure in league 2 we are going to need skill over fitness. We need to be fit and strong next season.

The search started with Sherwood going through thier mobile phone contacts and randomly ringing them to see if they would be interested.....

Tim "Sorry Brendan I forgot you got a job in Jockoland"
Tim "Rambo hows it hanging? fancy a challenge?"
Tim "Adi...... wassup!"
Tim "Oi oi Sherwood....hows it hanging? oh its gone straight to answer phone....oh wait I got a voice message"

If we don't get a 'big' name, I guarantee some of our fans will moan. It will be Power this, power that. Blah blah blah.

that's going to happen whoever we get .

hahaha, that made me chuckle :)

Well unless something very strange happens cheap option is what it will be.

Back in the 80's when we finished in a lowly position in Div 4, a sponsor Lowndes Lambert, an insurer with offices in Swindon came in with the specific deal, that they would ring fence money to pay for a name player/manager..... nothing else. We got Lou Macari...as he said later one of the things which attracted him was that STFC, should be a bit higher in the pyramid, so some kind of success on the CV would be achievable.

Subsequently all our Div 4 managers, Wise/Poyet; Sturrock; PdC, have like Macari left for clubs higher up the food chain.

All well and good, but here's the rub, on each occasion money was thrown at it, which we didn't really have.  The present situation is more like the pre Macari days of John Trollope and Ken Beamish, going nowhere with the cheap option.

Michael Doughty player/manager

TBH I would love JFH but I don't think he would come down to us or work with such a tight model as enforced by Power.

Jackett is another big name ex manager but again would he work with such tight constraints?

It also depends on how eager these men are to return to management and at such a low level as L2.

I know Sonic often mentions Scott Parker but he could be a good shout, ex international player, out of contract at Fulham in July, fairly intelligent, not sure he wants to be a manager though and don't know if hes taken his coaching badges....possible though.

He has indeed
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jan/21/scott-parker-management-st-georges-park-coaching-fulham

Not beyond the realms of possibility then.

If you were a bright ambitious wannabe gaffer, would you want to work for Power?

TBF to Power he can come accross well in interviews, he says all the right things almost all the time.

It could be the first time that Parker would have met him during the interview process (if indeed he did apply) and may not know about Power at all and have no preconcieved ideas about him...in which case he could well be impressed by Power as he can talk the talk.

I expect he'd want to stay in London anyway, Fulham would likely offer him a coaching role so unless he has an incredibly strong desire to cut his teeth in management down the M4 in League 2 it's a long shot. Still the type we should be looking at, if not necessarily Parker.

I think you are probably right about him wanting to stay close to his young family.

As you say somebody like him would be my choice too....ex international level player with Premiership experience at several clubs under many managers, well educated, done his coaching badges or some of them already and coming to the end of their career....a combination that worked so well in the past at Swindon with Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle and to a lesser extent MacMahon.

Adi Viveash leaving Chelsea.....

Steven Pressley would be a good punt.

London -> Swindon is hardly Iolcus -> Colchis.

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Colin Calderwood who's assistant at Villa - he'd be a great Town manager, but alas, very unlikely !

Why would he go from a job that probably pays 200k a year to one where he would probably be paid 20 quid

to prove yourself and get a job that pays a lot more

Ambition?

Calderwood has done better as an assistant than as a manager.

Don't get this 'former player stuff'

- Viveash is interesting because of success in the Chelseas youth set up
- Ramsay was a legend but not been a great manager
- Hockaday scored against Shilton from a cross but aint been that lucky as a manager
- Others that have managed in the lower leagues would probably not want to come

Calderwood had 2 promotions as manager,as assistant he has been around and must know many players.
Saying that why would he want to work for Power?   Dream on.

Yeah was on about CC

Calderwood would be a dreadful appointment

Just seen Bodin parking in town centre. Clearly that will actually be because he lives locally and has popped into town to do some shopping/has an appointment/whatever but it seems churlish not to start a new manager rumour off the back of it.

Alan Stubbs wasn't given much chance at Rotherham and sacked after a bad run of 15 or so games, it proved as the season went on he was managing one of the worse Championships sides ever, he did a great job before at Hibernian.
Been out of work for quite a while now.
I doubt his salary when at Rotherham was mega bucks either.

I would prefer a young manager who has played at a higher level than some of the ex-Swindon guys being mentioned at the moment.

Scouse. No thanks.

Definately no thanks to Alan Stubbs, even Malpas and Calderwood had an ok record in Scotland and 1 win in 15 games at Rotherham doesn't inspire confidence in him being able to turn around a poor side.

I would prefer JFH but I think the odds of him actually coming would be minscule.

He was interviewed for the job before PdC came and the board chose the Italian when JFH was coaching at Forest having freshly completed his coaching badges with them and looking for his first managers position.

http://www.thesackrace.com/news/6th-may-2017/paolo-di-canio-linked-with-a-shock-return-to-swindon-town

Hmmm.

More chance of Paolo Vernazza.

Steve Evans rising up the bookies listings.....

Not sure Power would pay compensation
Evans is the type of manager you love to hate
Would Power seriously relinquish control of transfers
Greggs in the town would do a roaring trade
He does have experience and has had success

Power's appointments previously seem to have been hugely influenced by Sherwood, with previous incumbents being summoned to the Spurs training ground for interviews and to explain results, so I wonder who Sherwood will choose this time ?

That's a terrible poem. Doesn't even rhyme

Perhaps Di Canio will just 'break in' again one night and take up residence in the Manager's Office.

This seems to be a new one, from the FB group per chance?

from the media isn't it. I read it before . will try and find link.

edit: SM for mail mentions it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-42/04670/Tim-Sherwood-won-just-19-games-Swindon.html

Williams was certainly brought to the club by Sherwood, he said that himself in the biggest appointment PC.
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obviously Sherwood may run away now, and may not have been involved in Cooper's actual appointment...

Viveash not interested according to adver twitter

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FB group are posting screenshots of bookies odds - good way of keeping up to date on which idiots are throwing their money away

It allows middle aged men their fantasy that the ex-players they remember from their younger days were 'one of us' all along, rather than just football pros trying to make a living like everyone else.  A stint at the club as a player during the 1980s or 1990s will have no bearing whatsoever on a candidate's suitability for the Manager's job.  None.

Steve Evans is currently favourite, god I hope it's not him.

I'm not sure that's *quite* true - it certainly buys them a bit more time and patience from the crowd, something which you'd have to think our next boss might well need. People were generally fairly sympathetic to Onoura and Jimmy Quinn in a way that they really weren't for Hart, Malpas and co.

Shouldn't be a major factor in the decision though, sure.

Why would he come here ?

Surely he knows everyone hates him ?

He got dog's abuse every time he cam to the CG

Please no.  :no:

Personally, I like the ex-premier-league-player type appointments.

Generally successful - Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle, DiCanio, even Wise did well briefly

I'm not sure, given some of his comments, that he wants the job.

Manager Steve Evans has said he wants assurances from chairman John Radford that Mansfield Town will back his desire to win promotion from League Two next season.

Evans told BBC Radio Nottingham he was "not a League Two manager".

"I need to be sure I get supported to build a promotion squad," he added.

Not sure he'd get the support he's looking for from Power even if he got the job.

I'd have Steve Evans any day of the week. Cunt he may be. But he's generally a pretty good at winning cunt.

But the odds reflect the actual chance of it happening, everyone knows that  ::)

He'd come here to spite us, the crooked cunt

In which case we should have had Sheena as manager at least once by now ;)

& Steve Lomas

Evans would be a superb appointment and a statement of intent that we mean business in reclaiming League 1 status at the first appointment.

Sadly, him being under contract makes that a non-starter.

Cometh the hour.....

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We can rule Hockaday out then.

Is Hockaday a fan of the French president  :hmmm:

His Mrs would get it mind... Emmanuel....not Hocky's that is.

It looks like he's got 20 nipples :(

Polythelia....

Of course coaching ability comes first but If they played in promotion winning sides of the 1980s and 90s an ex player might know what it takes to get promoted and played under promotion winning managers. That does count for something.

On that line, interesting that NT said on Saturday losing to a Sheff Utd team with 11 changes in January 2015 when we were flying set the doubts running in that team.

 That's when the right manager gets a team to put the defeat out of their minds and move on. Simon Grayson did that twice to us with Leeds in 2010 and Preston in 2015.

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I could never EVER sing "Steve evans' red n white army" no matter how successful.Absolute classless fathead

For some reason I seem to be the only one who doesn't care that he's fat, I think being a morally bankrupt, quite possibly sexist, criminal is enough. I don't want him anywhere near us, even if he guaranteed us promotion.

People aren't objecting to him because he's fat, as you well know. The just a convenient stick to bash the crooked cunt with.

John Fisher.

I do know it's not why people don't want him here, it's just odd to me that it's always brought up. There are so many other sticks !

Is Evans still wearing his eye liner?
Which ex Town full back will be our new boss?
Hockaday, Ramsey, Phil King, Paul Bodin, David Kerslake?

Not Phil King.  The VIP matchday experience would be so much poorer for the lack of shit jokes from the 1970's

Ah, so you are questioning why people are calling him fat, of which there is quite considerable evidence, by calling him sexist instead, which by your use of the word probably means that even you admit that there is little evidence..

Good work :D

I don't care either way btw, just pointing it out.

He's actually not fat any more so now there's more evidence of him being sexist than fat, because he isn't fat.

Good work  :D

Still a cunt though. A cunt that happens to be a pretty good lower league manager, but still a cunt.

He lost a lot of weight, the utter fucking cunt isn't so fat nowadays.

Judging by his comments here he is expecting a fair bit of investment in the Mansfield squad in the summer from the chairman.

He's probably better off staying there to be honest, and i'd fancy them to be up there next season.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39816162

yeah he's got a better chance of promotion at Mansfield than with us, ffs. but it's true.

I just can't see Evans coming here on any level. nothing fits with Power's MO.

but it's good fun to talk.

He worked at Leeds under Cellino, albeit very briefly

The difference being sexism is a greater offence than being overweight..

I was with the ball sponsor for the Millwall game and I thought Kingy was brilliant, very warm, and funny in an old fashioned (but still funny) way

As did Hocky... as for Evans he may be a cross between Jabba the Hutt and Richard Scudamore, but if he can put out a side that vaguely looks like it might be trying to win a game, he'll do for me.

Evans is very good friends with Power, I know that for certain,as when we met Power at Calne training ground a few years ago. He told us he was going to Leeds a few days before it was announced and did talk about being interested for the Swindon job before (until Leeds came for him) after Cooper left.

I understand why people wouldn't want him here. But as a manager I think Evans is exactly what we need next season. Been there and done it in the lower divisions, and gets players fired up.
But I'm never one to get uptight about who plays for or manages us... Ranger and Di Canio for example. Do well on the pitch and I couldn't give a monkeys what you get up to or believe in off it.

I think I'd suffer him if it gets us up. if he does that he'll leave for bigger things anyway.

but I still can't see it ever happening. It would take an absolute and complete change of approach from Power.

As Blinkpip says, I have heard they are quite matey.
Maybe Power has realised he has more chance of selling players for good money if they're playing in a promotion chasing team than passing the ball around and sitting in mid table.
I do think we will see a change of approach next season.

Does it matter if it's against the law like rape or fraud...

How long before people start freaking out at the lack of news? My money goes on there being rumbles of impatient discontent before the weekend.

Surely you've just started with this post

Has he not fucking arrived yet!!


 :soapy tit wank:

Steve Evans is an odious, corrupt, scummy cunt of the highest order. Being a football fan is about more than winning to me. I'd struggle to support any team which he was in charge of.

What if it gets us deducted points & relegated. He does have previous for that.

He's quite well known around here (as he lives locally) and it's hard to find anyone that's had anything to do with him that has a good word to say about him, in fact most are scathing in their criticism.
 
Wouldn't be a surprise if he's matey with Power, he also has links around this area.

I'm not planning on being mates with them, I'm going to watch them every 2 weeks for 90 minutes. I support Swindon as a club, not individual players. So no, it doesn't matter to me, I just want us to win.

Evans is a cunt and unlikely to win any charm or charisma competitions. He is also a convicted tax evader. Having said that, he is very successful in the lower leagues and would, quite probably, have similar success here. We've had managers and players before who have been less than paragons of virtue; does that really matter? As long as they aren't involved in anything illegal, or if they have been in the past, they've served their sentence, I fail to see why it's a big issue. I'm not going to be inviting the cunt round for tea...

I don't want him because, character issues aside, he's only ever achieved anything when he's had a massive amount of money to do so, and has been bang average (or just plain shit) when he hasnt

To some it will do. In the same way to some, Di Canio's political viewpoint was enough for them to distance themselves form the club for a period. I guess it's up to the individual and everyone has a tipping point. Mine would be Steve Evans.

We tried the nice guy approach with Luke.  We desperately need someone with a bit of lower league nous, who can influence the recruitment to get more suitable players on board than a team of BOOs.

Lou Macari wasn't exactly a whiter shade of pale...when he skipped the light fandango

I don't believe he has ever worked with a really big budget, ala Paolo but he does like a few quid to spend on players, but to be honest taking away his seedy reputation managers that are successful usually do get given a few quid extra, there are not many managers that are successful that are only given £1 to spend.

I'd suggest Evans is a decent lower league manager, but his reputation goes before him that rubs certain people up the wrong way.

I don't believe it will be him that gets the job anyway, I am still expecting someone who has worked as a No 2 or just a coach somewhere and Power will build him up like he did Williams as the best coach ever.

Evans still has two years left on his Mansfield contract.

We've never really been a club to pay compensation to acquire new managers (Bobby Smith the last one?) and I don't envisage Lee Power opting to buck that trend.

Unless he has a walk away clause, of course.

could just using us to screw more money/budget out of Mansfield..

Mansfield Town confirm to @AdverSport that no approach has been made by Swindon Town for manager Steve Evans #stfc
https://t.co/RM3AnKmAXE

Agree on each of the three points and still would even if Williams returning was the only alternative

Or when he's defrauded the money from the Inland Revenue to corruptly buy promotion, let's be fair.

Best news I've heard since the departure of Williams.

The Adver essentially have to contact all of the names listed by bookies in order to provide us something.

Viveash: Seemingly a case of 2+2=5
Evans: Call his employers = No approach

I wonder who they'll call when Sherwood reaches the top of the list?

So that means he's coming then.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

spot on but with power in charge its a match made in heaven.

Is right

Don't tell me, he's only in it for the money and to fill up his Swiss bank account.
Am I doing it right?

Evans is a total cunt and it shows how far down the shitter we've gone when he actually appears a decent option. I don;t want him here but there are worse suggestions. If he won a few games and got us up then I'm sure he'd be our fat tax evading obnoxious cunt. To me he's no worse than shitbag Tim who is an obnoxious, odious bottling cunt.

I'm bored with this.

Hurry up with the appointment and lets get the sense of underwhelming out of the way.

I suspect that we have a few weeks before it happens though.

Shaun Close applied so i hear

From the offices of tansmedia?

Tommy Mooney is said to be in the running

I thought we were putting him on a piece of string?

Is it only the deposition of Power that would make you happy, or would the appointment of Mr X as manager be good enough? If the latter, who would you welcome (ideally and realistically)?

I don't think anything would make him happy

Has a decision date been mentioned by the club?

What do you reckon?


Everything within these pages are based rumours and boredom.

All I have to say about the Steve Evans link is that if Lee Power is insistant on becoming our most hated owner ever then go ahead and appoint him.

The irony is that a majority of our fans that think Power is a crook, would be happy with Evans who actually is. :doh:

How true is that.

If he does appoint Evans and i won't actually be shocked if he does i would be one of the only ones who feel a bit sorry for Power. It would show me that he is willing to change the philosophy and actually do what the fans have asked and go for experience at last. It would just happen that the man is a cunt of tyhe highest order.

Ask yourself this though. If he was in charge the second half of this season do you think we would of gone down?

No, we wouldn't have.
I also believe an Evans appointment would guarantee a top 7 finish personally.

More emphatically than in the manner we actually went down.

Don't want that criminal anywhere near our club!

Evans has got two more years of his contract with Mansfield to run.

Even if Power wanted him, can you see him paying compensation? I can't.

Evans? No thank you

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/14858725

bored bored bored bored bored.

Amazon Echo tells me Benito Mussolini is the manager of Swindon Town when I ask it. Get your money on quick

We NEVER pay compo for managers, can't see Power being the one to buck the trend.

 But I do wonder about why Evans is so high up in the odds, either people have put cash on him based on the link with Power, or he fancies the gig and has got his agent to put his name out there. The latter happens a fair bit I understand.

One of two thingfs in my opinion

1)Power wants to make a statement and is actually serious about getting us out
2)Evans is using us to get what he wants out of Mansfield

This coupled with the fact that very little money has to be placed for the bookies odds to move at this level. Probably worth Evans putting £100 on it and using it to get the Mansfield chairman to back him.

That sounds like something our former manager who is still loved to this day would do

Italian managers are all the rage atm what with Conte, about to become the 4th Italian manager to win the Prem. No Englishman has managed one.

Our Italian did OK also, so clearly the way to go.

Sadly Benito is unavailable having been hung by partisans, but Alessandra his grand-daughter is and fit to boot. Currently scuffing around in the EU Parliament in Bruxelles or Strasbourg, or wherever it's been shunted to this week.

Failing that Gianfranco Zola needs to rebuild his rep

Fabrizio Ravanellii is touting himself here there and everywhere. A slightly less mental Italian than our previous one.

Iffy Tegg for manager, like it!

Haha, doubt anyone will get this unless they are of a Ciren base and a certain age.

Used to play football with the likeable grey haired  legend (Teggy not Fab, obviously). He used to commentate as he played, and he was often "Ravanellii" in his own head if not on the pitch. I say in his own head, as I said - he commentated as he played.

Yeah, you had to be there.

I personally think we would have stayed up if Evans was appointed back in Feb or March but now we are down I would not want him here at all.

I would have been happy with him coming in short term to save us but not as a longer term manager, never.

I would also have been happy with Martin Allen when Williams was in charge, coming in short term too, but there are so many better fits than either of these 2.

Why out of interest wouldn't you want him

Evans? If you ignore the conviction for tax evasion and fraud and also that he is a very unlikeable person.... my main concern is that he has been the subject of a sex charge against him while at Rotherham of flashing his cock at a female steward, I personally don't want somebody like that managing our club.

Alan Archibald from Partick Thistle according to the Scottish Sun

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/987729/partick-thistle-boss-alan-archibald-in-the-frame-to-become-new-swindon-town-manager/amp/

Makes sense, he looks to be wearing a gilet... should be enough.

Interesting.

*awaits inevitable and pointless comparison to Maurice Malpas*

We are interested in Evans according to the adver. It's 'concrete', according to them.

Has already happened. No prizes for guessing where.

One particular person on twitter said 'Scottish managers are crap, look at what happened with Alan Stubbs'

Alan Stubbs is from Liverpool :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Yeah, I saw that. What a fuckwit.

http://www.wearethistle.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/12331-swindon-want-archie/

ah, good old Alan McStubbs

Basket case of a club? Oi.

And who the hell is Stevie Evans?  :gay:

Trying to argue against that statement...

(https://media.tenor.co/images/2587bcbb64ced9d41cb4dd1291a37951/tenor.gif)

I just don't like it when other people say it. It's a bit like telling my boyfriend I look fat in a dress and him saying "yeah." :D

At least our fans are scared off by the shite football, and not the mascot.

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/5dcdde81ad3ff9b1df49d0f1fa366b4b25b57ab3/0_0_3840_5760/master/3840.jpg?w=300&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=8b7df4f78d0530e05ee746751c019049)

I'd forgotten all about that... thing. They should have asked Squires.

Archibald is been at Partick as a player and manager for a decade so I dare say that it would have to be a pretty worthwhile deal to get him down here.

Partick played Bath and Cirencester last summer so perhaps he could be persuaded by the wonders of the South West...?

We're a basket case club now.

Thanks Tim.

He sounds like a credible candidate....so is probably the equivalent of Bradshaw/Nichols, an unrealsitic target we hear about, who then ends up somewhere like Peterborough.

Him and Troy should be a managerial dream team

Basket case we may be but still a step up for him if he came here.

Not according to their board!

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Change in philosophy?!

FOOTBALL : @Official_STFC owner Lee Power tells @BBCWiltshire new boss will be given budget & have 100% responsibility for recruitment #stfc

significant, massive!

perhaps someone will want it after all, or they have someone that won't do academy football.

if we have a reasonable budget maybe next year isn't a write off after all.

This is huge, about fucking time.
Fair play to him for coming out and saying it, swallowed his pride here.

No mention of the style of play though?

It's Sherwood then

No, I'd inferred that own players=own style but that isn't necessarily so.

But it does surely mean the end of Teflon Tactics Tim in an active role doesn't it? He was suppose to be recruiting.

Oh, yeah, that's the other explanation...nooooooooo. I don't think it will be, he's already shit himself and backtracked to protect his "rep"

I don't think Sherwood has any involvement anymore.

This.

Think Sherwood had huge involvement this season and crafted a team in his own image - a bunch of gutless fucking bottlers.

Good on you Lee. I would still like to see some element of youth development and the odd punt on players from clubs in obscure leagues, though.

He coached the team for 10 weeks and which point Williams was not much more than the guy who picked up the cones. He still had to stand on the touchline and answer to the media because Sherwood is a coward.

Anymore

yes, me too. just not total youth

Maybe Power is genuinely fucked off his club went down and his "mate" made a fucking mockery of him and the club and has told TT to do one, while realising he needs to change to sort this whole fucking mess out. Here's hoping, but as positive a message as we could have had at this stage.

His contacts could be very useful to whoever comes in. There's nowt wrong with loans in principal and what manager wouldn't want access to more talent?

Spot on. He has Waterford as well that he can concentrate on now as well

A couple of thoughts about Alan Archibald from their forum.


they seem pretty adamant hes too good for us they seem to forget the crap standard of Scottish football.

We are in the bottom tier of English football, so can understand their comments to be honest.

We have a lot of potential though, whereas he's pretty much achieved all he can there in his three or whatever seasons he's been there.

The more they belittle us though the more I want him :)

Just the usual football fan talk.

They probably know as much about Swindon as most of us do about Partick Thistle. They play in red and yellow...my knowledge ends there.

I hadn't realised just how tin pot Scottish football is outside the top two in terms of attendances. is this right (not full session, but about these levels?)

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/avesco.htm (http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/avesco.htm)

Yep attendances have dropped off a lot in the last 10 years or so, not that it was that high anyway, our average attendance this season would have put us in the top 6 supported clubs in Scotland.

I'm not offended by the sentiments of the Patrick supporters because they have a point and we'd be the same. However, they are neglecting things that we've seen it time and time again:

- Plenty of examples of footballers playing for middle/lower level Scottish Prem sides who have moved to L1/L2.

- Plenty of examples of footballers playing for middle/lower level FL sides who have moved to the Scottish Prem.

- Plenty of examples of managers of overachieving Scottish Prem sides who have moved to L1/L2 sides.

All with varying success.

Aberdeen, the second best side in Scotland, is full of players who L1/L2 experience (Joe Lewis, Shay Logan, Niall McGinn, Ash Taylor, Adam Rooney, Jonny Hayes, Anthony O'Connor, Jayden Stockley, Miles Storey...) - again, all with varying success.

My main point is that Archibald/Partick Thistle to Swindon Town isn't as unrealistic as they may think.

I think it is a possible appointment in all honesty, Robbie Neilson left Hearts for MKD a few months back with Hearts much higher in the table than Thistle, 4th in the Prem at the time IIRC.

Even in L2 we will probably have a higher budget than a mid table Scots Prem team averaging just over half our average attendance.

If he comes and does well he will be in the spotlight more in England than in Scotland improving his profile....look at Di Canio, the press were all over him like a rash when he did well with us.

He could also be another version of Maurice Malpas...the comparisons are inevitable thats natural.

There are of course many minus points for us as well as him but I think the plus points would be more for him than the minus points.....also we have much better weather ;)

Does the chippy opposite the fire station do deep fried creme eggs at Easter? That could be a crucial deciding factor

We are a step up from Partick Thistle because, as someone else said, history suggests we're at the bottom of our curve, and they're right at the top of theirs. Also, we'll pay way more.

We should apply to join the SPL as McSwindon. We could have derby games in Europe against Waterford.

I'm not wholly convinced we are at the bottom of our curve. 

There's an argument to be had about whether the mid 1950's... where back to back applications for re-election were played out against a decline in the Works, and a very slow recovery in the town's infrastructure from post war austerity, would have kept league status with the present pyramid set up.

I would suggest that there are similarities, namely the town's infrastructure is struggling to adjust to post 08 crash Tory austerity, and the overall sense of civic decline due to a low wage economy means the FC feels the pinch like in the 50's.

Recent, relevant history would suggest we are. Can we plummet... of course, but evidence suggests we should sustain and recover so long as the ownership doesn't go completely south (and I'm talking Orient, Coventry levels of no ground, players not being paid etc, not just some of our fans have a whinge).

You make fair points, there should be other places in Div 4, more socially and economically disadvantaged than Swindon....but then again there were in Div 3 and that made no difference.

I still think having a young squad is the right strategy, you just need to mix it up with 3-4 seasoned pro's/wise heads.

The squad PDC built in our promotion season was still quite young/raw.

Caddis, Foderingham, Flint, Ferry, Ritchie, De Vita, J.Smith were all regulars and all were in the 24 & under bracket (I think)  but we mixed it up with a bit of experience in Alan Mac, Benson & Connell.

Er...  Red Bull Leipzig, are going to have a legal punch up with UEFA, because Red Bull Salzburg in Austria have already sealed a Euro spot.  UEFA's rules are that clubs from different countries with the same owners can't compete in their comps.

Typical fucking Power, when he gets us to Europe... no doubt Waterford will get the slot.  Or maybe he's no intention of getting us there  :hmmm:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39882884

most important bit: They hope to make an appointment within the next eight days.

No Gareth, the most important bit is new man/woman will have control of recruitment.

Whether the new manager gets full control of recruitment or not. If Power and Sherwood continue to dictate match day squad / tactics and style of play then giving the manager control of recruitment is pointless imo.

All this talk of Scottish managers has me thinking that Pat Fenlon wouldn't be a bad outside bet. Turned things around at Hibs and twice got them to the Scottish Cup Final. Could work well given an assistant with experience of English lower leagues. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Fenlon

Just add a bit about Williams going the other way to be head coach at Waterford and you have a nice little Power cheap-option conspiracy story too! :-)

  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

The fact Power has advised that the policy will change, would suggest he's already spoken to his chosen man.

Those were my thoughts. I reckon it's Evans. I can feel it in my water.

I suspect it is to get it out there to get a few more agents touting their clients interest in the job as the ones that have applied are of no interest

But it does make you wonder if he would trust the recruitment to an unknown rather than an experienced manager

And of course it depends what type of budget is to be given

I did think that but as you said, would you trust another Williams mould 2 with purchasing players?

Or even offered him the job.........

The last time we bought a manager out of his contract was Bob Smith in 1978/79. I'm sure Reg will correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty confident given reduced budgets etc we won't be going for someone tied to an existing contract. They could walk out of a contract though.

I'm hoping it's Cotterill still but any serious manager would be an upgrade on Williams who we all know was a coach and not a manager.

It's quite exciting to me that we could actually have a manager who's able to build his own squad rather than hoping we somehow come up with a decent squad of Power's hopeful punts.

When we've gone down to League 2 recently we've tended to come back stronger and I think Power's statement today has made that a realistic aim again.

I've heard that he has already interviewed at least two candidates for the job, and no I don't know who

I can only be one man....Paolo, it's Paolo

I think you should just be yourself Matchworn.

Archibald says we haven't approached him ... yet.

Evan is very thick skinned and he would need to be if he is to be appointed. He knows full well he is despised by the town fans from his comments towards us when PDC was at the helm. I'm not saying you're wrong but I would be very surprised if he would come here.

Probably been said already, but I believe we received a fine because of his complaint as well.

I would say we are a bigger club than Mansfield and maybe have more potential (from the outside) so I could see him coming here but it would depend on budget etc, I think he has a think enough skin to not care what has happened previously, I'm not sure Power would want to pay compensation when there are so many out of work managers though

Ironically, the top 3 in the betting market are all employed (Evans, Archibald & Ramsey), so compensation would be required.
I think Power knows this season he's going to need to put in money, to make money. I also can't imagine the fees being huge to get the names mentioned.
I still think it'll be Evans, and strangely optimistic for next season if it is. I'd certainly prefer him to Archibald and Ramsey.

I have more than a sneaky feeling that Cotterill despises Swindon!

Steve Cotterill despises everyone and everything.

It must be close to 20 years since Cotterill first missed out of becoming Town manager. Not sure there were any others but he was definitely close prior to Jimmy Quinn's appointment.

Rumour has it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermot_Drummy

Ex Chelsea youth coach - failed at Crawley, I know not every manager succeeds in their first job but it would have the stigma of Chelsea youth coach all over it, which why apparently crawley appointed him

You would hope as Power is gonig to trust someone with recruitment and budgets etc and knowing how crucial this next appointment is, for the first time in his tenure he will go for someone who has a bit more of a managerial record.

For me someone like JFH, played at the top level worked under some good managers, garnered his reputation at a small club, Burton, didn't do so well at QPR but equally was not really poor would have learnt some lessons got more experienced, and would hope to put them right in his next appointment to prove he is not a 1 hit wonder.


Others for me would be Keith Hill who is a master at the lower league and an old head or Paul Tisdale if he could be convinced to leave Exeter not sure either would command a huge settlement fee to their clubs.

Oh dear god.

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=56978.0

Mark Allen, academy director at Man City....apparently he wants to have a go at managing.

I fancy a dabble, what time should I expect a call?

Yikes! I'd rather have kept Williams.

Having a browse through the Crawley forum, a lot of them seem very confident that JFH will be their new manager :D

Rumour from where? Not even so much as mention on Twitter lately?

Other rumour sauces are available

All rumours filter on to there and facebook pretty sharpish though....

Like the stratford-upon-avon (Worcestershire) sauce...

Been away on holiday and cannot be arsed to read back, the only thing I heard on the BBC was Particks manager??

Can someone provide a short summary of where we are (or I suspect are not?)

ta

Williams gone.

Power on the hunt for a new manager

Archibald, (Partick) Evans (Mansfield), Dermot Drummy (see other thread) the main candidates rumoured. Apparently we should know in 7 days.

We hope to appoint someone in 8 days or so and he will have full control over transfers. That's about it.

Is that Evans as in Evans..... *shudder*

yes

is there a list of odds you gamblers can put on here?

Alan Archibald
7/4
Steve Evans
9/4
Adrian Viveash
6/1
Chris Ramsey
6/1
Dermot Drummy
14/1
Brian McDermott
16/1
Ian Baraclough
16/1
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
16/1
Nigel Adkins
18/1
Tim Sherwood
18/1
Gary Hill
20/1
Kenny Jackett
20/1
David Flitcroft
22/1
Dougie Freedman
22/1
Steve Cotterill
22/1
Paolo Di Canio
25/1
Alan Stubbs
28/1
Alex McLeish
28/1
Owen Coyle
28/1
Paul Ince
33/1
Steven Pressley
33/1

Top man!

Would the bookies allow us to put money on AN Other

There is some decent names on there - whoever gets the job will make certain sections unhappy - especially the Power haters.  Can see it now "Well if he has no more ambition than to appoint ****************** then he won't get any more of my money"!

Dermot Drummy is a shit name.

Confirmation of Embleton and Mike Cooper (fitness coach) now leaving too.

We had a fitness coach?

What the fuck did he do last season then?

We had a fitness coach ??

Suspect that might be why he's leaving ....

According to the Beeb he was a sports scientist

Also says we should expect an appointment by the 19th

Fair chance of statement Friday returning then. :beers:

Brian McDermott would be a good appointment

Ex Pox and Reading and people still like him, quite impressive

Yeah Gary what the fuck are you on? Keep town a scum free zone. The reading bit is totally irrelevant

:) got to be better than fatty Evans mate :suicide:

I hope it isn't Drummy. I'd rather somebody that is untried than somebody that has tried and failed.

Having said that though, I'd still give him every chance and wish him luck. Past records can be deceiving.

He pulled up with a stitch clearing his desk!!

With confirmation of Embleton and M. Cooper leaving, although blindingly obvious, this must mean that whoever is appointed will be bringing in his own No.2 and other coaches etc. So i'm pinning my guess on an experienced manager or well known ex-player.

 :cry:ANYONE would be better than Fatty Evans.

Quoted

 ;)

I wonder if the great man is lying awake, unable to sleep and feeling drawn by the ley lines of Wiltshire and the mystical power of the Avebury stones.

C'mon Lee it's a buyer's market as far as PDC is concerned.
You know what you have to do.

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If it's Evans I will be displeased. Part of me would chuffing love to have Paolo back again, albeit with a little more restricted budget. It's not going to happen though. He's the mad ex girlfriend of swindon Town and perhaps it's best he remains that.

What's Hoddle up to? He has a history of being able to help ruined young players so our current lot would be perfect for him.

Of the names in the top 5 of the betting market, Evans is the one I want.
Been there and done it in league 2, it's what we need.

Please not Evans, and preferably not somebody like Drummy - an ex academy manager who has had one shot at management and failed, that is all.

Not Evans thank you, he is a disgusting specimen

I seem to remember a lot of people being angry with the reaction of the Di Canio appointment.

I would be more than happy with Evans, after seeing us being so nice to play against, I'd quite like us to turn into a street-smart team for a couple years, would definitely increase our chances of getting out of League 2.

It's a case of horses for courses. It takes a certain kind of personality to manage a team out of the lower divisions. That kind of person may not have have what it takes for the top two divisions.  Evans has proven experience in the lower two, no-one is asking him to become our all time favourite 'Mr Nice Guy'.  Just get the job done!

I don't need to like the fella, no interest in being mates with a manager.

The fact is he has a proven track record in the lower leagues, that's all that matters to me.

Totally agree.

only if we can sing "fatty Evans red & white army" :please:

Evans is signing players and seems to have been given what he wants at Mansfield, is he really a realistic option now?

I see he signed Zander Diamond yesterday and it did make me wonder if he won't be moving now. He will be on a fairly good wage for L2 I would imagine, looks like the chairman is giving him funds to tempt him to stay.

certainly doesn't look like he's moving does it. half of me is relieved,  half worried will end up with Drummy

I think my semi-realistic preference is Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink.

Yesterday's news would make room for his usual staff of David Oldfield (assistant) and Chris Barnes (strength and conditioning) to link up while Dean Thornton, who would have been at QPR at the same time will stay (I doubt Gavin Ward will want to leave QPR for Swindon).

Hasselbaink needs a way back in to management after he was part of that sting earlier in the season.

Loved Hasselbaink as a player. Would be in favour.

Would also welcome any of Jackett, Adkins, Cotterill...

Think we'll still end up with someone relatively inexperienced like Drummy or Ramsey.

If he sticks to his word that the new manager will be bringing all players in and control everything then it wouldn't make sense to get an inexperienced manager in, so I am in the mindset that he knows he has to do it properly and will get someone in with some form of experience, my personal favourite is JFH but Archibald seems to be bookies favourite and he has done well at Partrick so can see it being him.

Thornton is still here and not going anywhere he said on twitter. I think JFH could be right

Would be very pleased with Hasselbaink relative to the other options.

I noticed that too, JFH does seem to be the logical choice but the questions I wonder are, would he want to drop back down to L2 after managing in the champs and why are his odds so low on bookies when he is basically unemployed and works with friends of Power (Ferdinand etc) at QPR? I would love it to be JFH but realistically think it will be AA just because I can see JFH biding his time for another champs team to look for a manager.

Archibald had been interviewed and not being considered for the job I've been told by a very good source

That's a shame, which leaves me with my first choice of JFH but as per above I am not sure he would go for it.

I am loving this merry go round though of who is the next manager, brings a little excitement during a boring 6 weeks before the transfer window opens  :D

Who else been interviewed? Any idea?

True. As long as we don't go for the young manager and 'director of football' approach. Something I'm massively against.

Sherwood has basically said he isn't involved anymore and wasn't a job to him, more of helping out a friend so I would guess that the DoF approach has been dropped hence why he has gone public and said the manager (whoever it will be) will have full control over all transfers.

I would guess that Power has the new manager lined up and it's just a case of sorting punt the paperwork. Given the fact that Embleton and the fatness coach were relieved of their duties would indicate new manager wants his own staff in.

You're improving my optimism  :D

The optimism is what hurts a fan when it goes tits up but I am optimistic that next season could be very interesting, not PDC interesting but definitely interesting

JFH on holiday until the 18th ;)

I thought I asked you to keep that quiet  :hmmm:

I can't help but thinking that 'within 8 days' is a very specific number. Why 8 days?

Then I think of Tans' comment about JFH being on holiday until the day before, and then remind myself that it's coming from Tans.

Ah, it was BS then..  Next

:D

I think the 8 days was just so we can have another statement Friday!

That would be two consecutive statements made on a Friday.

This is progress.

3 won't it?
Williams going a couple of weeks back and then yesterday finally announcing the others leaving. Could it be 3 on a trot?!

You could be right.

This is big.

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Alan Pardew's name being mentioned on Twitter. Cant see this happening. Premiership to league 2, not happening but would be better than some of the names being mentioned.

JFH would be my choice.

I mentioned Pardew on twitter.

My source was a very similar one to the one Tansmedia uses.

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I'd love JFH, would be similar to the last 2 times we've been relegated and appointment a 'name'. Unfortunately I just can't see it.
I still think it will be Evans.

Pardew, brilliant.

I'd like to shake hands with the person who suggested him

Pardew when he heard he'd been linked with us

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Hmmm more like....

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I think I hate Pardew more than Evans.

Now come along ..........   Don't be Silly ........

I chucked some cash on JFH when I saw he was 18-1, so that's almost certainly jinxed it. It won't be him.

I think I agree with you, both are wankers, but Pardew just has the edge by being a smug wanker!

Me Too............  Definately no chance then !!!.

He is the most realistic choice out of the bookies options if it's true that AA hasn't been selected / turned down the role. I would love to have JFH but we only have 5 days to wait as supposedly the new manager will be unveiled on Friday.

If AA is so clearly out of the race why do so many bookies still have him down as favourite?

Because people keep pumping money on him, that's the way bookies work, they pump for the person who has the most money, Viveash was favourite, as soon as AA's name came forward his odds dropped.

No it doesn't. Bookies stopped working like that a long time ago

Andronikou's in the running for manager? Fuuuuuuucccckkkkkkkkkkkkk!

Now there's a name I haven't heard in a while....

There is a video on the FB page, from Sky sports with reports that Swindon have approached Mansfield about talking to Evans ....

Just saw this. Very torn about this one... On the one hand he might well be the right person to get us out of the pit we find ourselves in. On the other hand, he's Steve Evans.

It can't be any worse than the fuore that happened when PDC came in, calling the club fascists etc

Interesting. Any idea how old it is?

I figured he'd decided against it following his "chat" with the chairman and subsequent signing of players...

It was only on SSN within the last 30 minutes so will be pretty recent news for them to talk about

Does anyone have a link to it?

I bet the buffet suppliers of Swindon are rejoicing at the thought?

Thanks...Interesting..

Doubt we'd make an approach without a nod from Evans that he wants to talk..

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https://www.facebook.com/simon.fennell.18/videos/1359713000788763/

http://www.stagsnet.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31580&sid=da47c31f8cb99472c4f1b9658007ce54

Interesting views from Mansfield.

Interesting in that they want him to stay so strongly... or

Interesting in that they think it would appease our fans by approach Evans??

On one hand, I can’t believe Power, of all people, is going to be the one to break our near 40 year record of not poaching managers employed by others.

On the other, I also can’t believe an official approach would be made if both us and Evans hadn’t informally spoken and mutually indicated interest.

Adver have got hold of it now :-

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/15286909.Town_make_approach_for_Evans/

More than happy with this, I know a lot aren't keen on him but from a football point of view I think he's exactly what we need.

FWIW I cannot say I would be happy, satisfied as a step in the right direction maybe....

Power and Evans - that really isn't going to work is it?

Steve Evans signed Power for Boston, which I didn't know.

You would image the way Power works he has been given a nod and a wink, not sure he would approach someone like Evans without being confident he can get his man, may hinge on the type of budget and wages though we can offer compared to what mansfield are prepared to throw at him.

Surprises me that Power is prepared to pay compensation though, must be confident of selling Vigs.

Are we a better proposition than Mansfield ?

We are a better proposition than Mansfield if he has the budget and control as our crowds and what not are far superior. However if we are operated like we were last season then we are no proposition at all, all depends on budget and level of control.

still can't see it, and my i not so inner pessimist thinks we'll get told to do one then appoint Drummey!

a very different approach money wise...

We are a bigger club historically (although not much in it) with a bit of potential in the right hands.

Mansfield seem to be trying to flex some financial muscle publically, though. So he'd probably get a bigger budget at Mansfield but playing in front of smaller crowds (well, could be bigger if they are winning and we continue to be shit). Obviously the behind the scenes being a bit of a mess doesn't bother Evans, or else he wouldn't have touched Leeds with a barge pole.

Success here and we'll be pushing 10-15K crowds.

He's got a comfortable gig where he is now as the Mansfield fans and board have clearly bought into the ridiculous notion that he's too big for them, so he can do no wrong. He won't have that here.

As if they've not already spoken to each other. 

I expect Evans has already agreed on the job in principal, now we just need to do it officially.

Mansfield have refused permission.

For the time being, until Evans says I want to talk to them

Wonder if Power will stump up more cash or move on...

edit: I'm a feckin' eejut. refused to talk, not even at compo after yet.

They'll have to let him go if he kicks off, depends on how much he wants it.

If we're willing to shell out for a manager I'd still prefer we went for someone like Jackett....

yeah, guess the ball is in Evans court now.

Gives Evans the perfect chance to resign if he is interested in coming here. Would also mean we wouldn't have to pay any compensation.

Sky reporting Mansfield have refused Swindon permission to talk to Evans.

it's officially official (the refusal)

https://t.co/FN7h0GmJRH (https://t.co/FN7h0GmJRH)

I bet some of our little cherubs will be shitting themselves at the prospect of him being manager after having such a cushy time of it with "best friend" Luke.

Wonder how long it'll be before they're doing this (assuming he does become the new manager):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuyPVOxwyQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuyPVOxwyQ)

As good as done then....just a matter of how much compensation.

On a side note I wonder where we will train next season as can't imagine a competent manager letting us almost exclusively train on a 3G.

And not even on a Friday fucking tin pot, no wonder Evans wants to come here - if he does.

Well if we have approached Mansfield then it would appear that those that are "ahem" in the know who said we have appointed Archibald or JFH already are apparently wide of the mark then.

Even worse, Chang will be right!

Don't worry he previously said Williams was staying so has already had his 'Chang moment'

adver think Evans has two years left on his contract.

so may not be as simple as resigning without consequences for Evans (buying out contact,). it's good to speculate..

interesting comments from him when he took the mansfield job


When asked if he came close to taking the City Ground job before it went to Frenchman Montanier, Evans said "yes."

"My representatives told me that."

He continued: "The way modern day football works is and supporters probably think it was unusual for me to get a direct call from John Radford, normally your representatives are talking to people and you go forward and they tell you that the business side of it is done and you go and talk football."

I would dispute the "not much in it" in terms of size historically.

Mansfield have never been in the Premier League (albeit 1 season)
they have never won one of three big trophies in English football (again albeit only once)
they have never been to the semi final of the FA cup x2
they only 2 football league title sides the last being in 1977 to our 3 titles the last being 2012
they have only had 3 seasons at Championship level whereas we have had 18 in total
we have never fallen out of the top 4 divisions to National League level
their record attendance of 24,467 has been bettered by us on 29 occasions
their home average last season was 3,773 was just over half our average of 7,025

But as you state their chairman seems to be throwing some funds at Evans in a bid to keep him happy and to give them a push up the league but I would still think if he came to us he would have a larger budget than Mansfield can currently provide him with, if a bid for him is eventually accepted then I would say it would come down to the ambition of each clubs owner to win him over.

I am still surprised that he would only be the 2nd manager since I have been watching the Town (42+) years that we have poached from nother club for a fee (Bobby Smith being the last one in 1978 from Port Vale for a fee of £10,000).

 Is that bird still involved in running Mansfield, or has she just fleeced Radford for a few bob  :hmmm:

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Still the chief exec I believe, looks like Hatie Kopkins after some botched work through a soft filter.

BBC report Mansfield not allowing Power to talk to fatty.

Obviously they can stop the formal talks if however they happen to have a had a chat as friends over tea and burgers...sorry I mean biscuits. Then I'm not sure there is a lot Mansfield could do.

If Power and Evans are friends, and I'm inclined to believe they are, there's no way they haven't spoken about this.

Its dealt with by agents anyway usually so surely it is down to Evans to tell Mansfield he wishes to talk to stfc if he's interested, them to throw their toys out the pram saying they are upset he wants to talk etc, then argue over compensation and for Power to claim he got a good deal with a buy back clause inserted

Yep, even telling the BBC we would have a manager within 8 days.
It's to specific for conversations not to have been had.

 Power, Evans and Boston all mentioned in the same sentence.

I'm starting to think this might not be such a good idea. Evans is the sort of thing we need on the playing front, but....

 quite.

It's either a genuine attempt by Power to get someone who can take us up (leaving personal opinions of the bloke aside).

or it's a complete sham to try and fool us all into thinking he's tired to get someone but had to go in another direction....

the latter would be foolish imo. We'll soon see.

We need Steve Evans to nip this in the bud whatever he wants to do.

What we don't need is for this to rumble on.

Then you obviously know something the rest of us don't,  maybe you'd be kind enough to enlighten us.

Steve Evans and rumbling  :no:  Mr Creosote comes to mind  :)

Playing FM2017 and this happens....tis an omen I tell ee!

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Crowds of 10-15k ?, Fucking Hell,  have I missed something ?, surely we're not back in the premiership ?.

Positives RE Evans:

-Knows this level as much as we could hope for.
-Won't accept interference from anyone else.
-Players won't last long if they aren't up to it or show a poor attitude.
-Likely to adopt a more effective if less pretty playing style.

Negatives RE Evans:

-Despite the above positives, it's still Steve Evans.

Exactly what I was thinking, we didn't average 10k when PDC was here

Pushing being the operative word. If we do well, generally, the fans do start to trickle through and we have hit 5 figures. Point is, Mansfield won't even get close to that.

True, Mansfield probably would struggle to get close to that but would be nice to think we could reach those figures.

All points very valid. I don't like him but if he came and did the job in getting us  back up then he would be classed as a good appointment.

Steve Evans had a very big budget at Crawley and Rotherham.

No comment from Evans yet...

It's dinner time.

no news is no news as they say

It's intriguing one of the Mansfield fans on their forum referred to our interest as a "fan appeaser", when I'm seriously considering whether I could support a team with him in charge!

Yes, made me chuckle too.

Think I can just about, but would be counting down the days he left - hopefully because we've done well and he's been poached.

Everything I've read/heard from people who wouldn't BS says this is a genuine approach, but I still can't see it!  Where is the money gone come from?

Apparently their CEO just tweeted that he's staying put...

She's also the chairman's wife.

Then let us move on.

I do believe that this is a genuine approach but if Power ends up going for a rookie manager then this will feel a bit like when we were being linked to out-of-our-reach players under Gerard McCrory.

Speaking of Jed, i met someone from the Banbury United board on saturday night.

As you can imagine, both of us had glowing references of him regarding our teams!

I want us to do well next season but do not want Evans anywhere near our club, he is a complete fucking twat.

As usual, when a high Executive in any business (esp. football) comes out and says that, it usually means the opposite. A term used to 'buy time' and keep fans on side.  I'm going to say it. Evans will be our manager on Friday...

More likely Roy Evans coming back for a second spell.

tweet reads:
@carolynRadford
As CEO of our club I make our position very clear: Steve Evans is staying at Mansfield Town.

Don't think that tweet rules anything out, quite the opposite in fact. No mention of Evans' position...

Heads turned i reckon

I think the absence of them mentioning Evans being happy there or direct quotes from him tells the real story.

That's what I thought, although it can be easy to read between lines that aren't there.

One would think they'd be in touch with him. It might be them making a show of putting up a fight against the inevitable. Or maybe he is just staying put.

Negotiation through the public? Playing hardball? Outright rejection?

Who fucking knows?

The tweet is irrelevant. It just means that the only way Evans will leave is by resigning, which means waving goodbye to whatever contract he has there and meaning he'd want as much here. Simple really. Power wouldn't have risked making an official approach and this getting into the public domain unless Evans (or his agent) had said he'd be open to the move in theory.

I've always though Evans is an utter oaf, as well as a criminal, who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him (which wouldn't be very far). Power is a rogue - a team of those two certainly wouldn't be lovable. The bizarre fact of all this is, it is strangely attractive because it is the sort of drastic measure that may arrest the decline of our club. Of course I'd rather a Hasslebaink, Jackett etc, but they are completely unrealistic and he's likely to be better than Ramsay (even if Ramsay may be a decent bloke). I'd expect a press conference, without a gilet in sight, by Friday.

The more I think about that tweet, the more it convinces me he's coming.

I need to stop thinking.

Interesting post from 'Waggy' on Stagsnet (MTFC forum)

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"A club with an elevated opinion of itself"?

I think the fact that we have approached that slug of a man would suggest otherwise.

Actually, I thought that 'cash-strapped car crash of a club with an elevated opinion of itself' was a pretty good description of us.

Id rather that than 'Poor man's Chesterfield' though.

I agreed with everything other than the "elevated opinion" bit because I think the Swindon's only crime here is approaching a club to get permission to speak to their manager. A club with a reclusive mentality and downtrodden fanbase doesn't strike me as elevated.

Elsewhere, I read one Mansfield fan bemoan the 'brown paper bag' transfer of Colin Calderwood during the OUR-CLUB-IS-BETTER-THAN-YOUR-CLUB dick-swinging that goes on during this sort of business. Got to love 30 year old grudges.

I thought the Football League decided that transfer fee?

'Delusions of grandeur' was another accusation levelled at us. I did a double take on that one.

Maybe Power needs some help with his tax return, needs a couple of 0's to disappear.

In all seriousness, I think it could be a match made in heaven.

The one where it Radford and Evans were collaborating together to see our treasure chest made me chuckle

They did but it was based on false information being given to them. The fee is based on, for example, the salary that the player will be paid and Swindon declared a lower salary than he was actually paid (the rest being made up with "bonuses" that presumably weren't disclosed).

Swindon wasn't the only club to do that sort of thing (Chelsea and Spurs were found guilty of financial irregularities at around the same time) but it was the one to be made an example of. I still harbour a grudge 30 years on.....

Delusions of mediocrity would be better.

Garrr Tim me hearty.....tis empty....best we plunder the high seas again....yarrrrrr.

Exactly....and I too still bear a grudge 30 years on against the Football League hierarchy.

But what they seem to forget is that it was under Macari's guidance that made Colin into the player he became, I doubt he would have got the same standard of coaching at Mansfield under Ian Greaves so would not have progessed so quickly IMO and could well have stayed at that level.

Great coaching makes great players and Macari and staff were great coaches.

I hold a grudge against the Mansfield fans for chucking a brick through the back window of the Rimes' coach back in 68.

Fucking freezing on the way home..... and don't even start on Thatcher's finest in 86.

I was still in a pushchair in 68 :D but 86 when we won the title there was a day I won't forget, even though they were going for promotion too I don't remember Mansfield fans at all that day just the invasion of about 3,500 Town fans and of course the old bill out for a bit of a fight.

I think the irony on their forum about delusions of grandeur when you read some of their posts, they seem very very arrogant that they will win promotion this season.


I think if Steve Evans was going to stay at Mansfield he would have come out publically and denied he was interested in the Swindon job......his silence tells you everything.

Mansfield is literally just an exit on the M1 nobody uses.

Considering he "isn't leaving Stags" and is a "non-story" 132 contributions to a nothing thread is quite the interest. I'm finding it hilarious, I mean I couldn't care less if Evans becomes our new manager or not but if I was a MTFC fan then i'd be pretty concerned at the silence of the current manager. A manager that they have pinned so many hopes on  :clap:

Regardless of whether we want Evans as our manager or not - and I am in the NO camp - it will be refreshing to see a manager with a bit of passion on the touchline unlike the mediocrity we have experienced in recent seasons!

It's like a milder version of when we had a bid for James Constable accepted.

One fella suggests Stags should use their new found "wealth", to destabilise us by putting in a bid for one of our highly rated players  :)

do we have any apart from vigs?  ???

Maybe this was our plan all along? Conor Thomas for £250,000?

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No Gareth we don't, in fact we hardly have any players and of course Vigs is on the market.

Sorry Sonic, I get the intent and football clubs aside; I live not so far away from Mansfield and it's actually one of the better Towns in the area. It's a small town nonetheless but has plenty of historic buildings and very much mirrors the older architecture of Nottingham in parts. At the Swan pub there is a stone dated 1400's (can't remember the exact date) and much of the building still survive from that century. Unfortunately family tell me that in the 1970's they demolished quite a few of the 15th century buildings and it's most 17th century stuff now. Still quite interesting historically though.

Also Mansfield is basically the middle of Sherwood Forest which i'm sure needs no introduction.

Football wise I couldn't give a damn but go into the Town and it's one of the more interesting Towns than most of today's "blueprint Britain". Generally speaking, football fans and hooligans of yesteryear aside, the people of Mansfield are generally a  fair lot.

Im really enjoying being a "big fish" again in this league and the hatred that follows. Its only May and we haven't wasted anytime. Reminds of tapping up Luke Rooney and just having Di Canio in general as gaffa.

Fuck me are you auditioning for the role as East Midlands based Reg?  ;) :D

We are quite hated, by our own supporters :)

It's ironic that Steve Evans got convicted of similar crimes as Brian Hillier. The media will cotton on and lap this up I am sure.

What's even more ironic is that there is a section of our fan base bemoaning that Lee Power is asset stripping the club, taking us for a ride and is effectively a crook. This same section of fans appear to have made Steve Evans, a convicted fraudster and supposed friend of Power as their standout candidate for manager.

I'm sure he'll disagree but Reg does get around....it's not beyond the realms of possibility and I know he has a soft spot for old mining towns ;)  :pint: :soapy tit wank:

Somebody will notice. They always do.


I read somewhere, probably on the Facebook page, a conversation where it seemed that some Town fans wanted Steve Evans at Swindon simply because it would upset the 'lefty snowflake' element of our fanbase.

This was me mostly reading between the lines though.

To the north of Mansfield lies The Dukeries. A strange place, the only one in the UK, where I've been escorted from the land by a gun totting game keeper for a bit of harmless trespass. All a bit DH Lawrence.

It's called the Dukeries as the land is owned by a few families, who got rich from the mineral rights of having coal under it.

Also nearby you've got Shirebrook, home to Mike Ashley's Gulag.... a kind of Tory wet dream, shaft the remnants of the miners, by importing loads of Poles and other Eastern Europeans, to work their nuts off on zero hours contracts.

All a bit Victorian...women have been known to drop their sprogs in the bogs, rather than lose a bit of pay.

Still May is going to protect workers rights, so that's alright then.

 :pint:

Ahh The Dukeries, although it's nearer Edwinstowe but your escortation is probably to do with what is still in the ground there. By all accounts (and this is local pub talk by the way) a Metal Detectorist got shot in the forearm and the landowners were cleared of any wrongdoing by Royal Protection  :)

You'll be aware of places like Warsop and the wonderfully named Spion Kop and Meden Vale. It is actually all very lovely land around there.

It's lovely because the Dukes kept the plebs out or in some instances forcibly removed them..... also very little in the way of walking access, that the lower orders might enjoy the views.

There are a few bits of England, where the feudal system never really ended and The Dukeries is one of them.

Stags fan getting wet at the prospect of signing Marc McNulty....

Good for them. Five years in Non-League followed by some dull seasons in L2 and they beginning to feel like they might compete.

I liked this post, which was an MTFC fan's comment on local reporting of the Swindon approach:

This whole episode could easily be put to bed, by The Manager (not Chairman or CEO) just saying that he's committed to Mansfield Town, and going nowhere. Unfortunately, Steve Evans has an ego more sizable than his waistline, and he takes no greater pleasure than hearing his name banded about in the media. So, to prolong his few days in the limelight a little longer, he keeps his mouth shut. Just another example of how the man has zero class. I'm sure he'll have been contacted by a local journalist, Chad, 103.2 or he could even pick up the phone and release a statement via Mark Stevenson at the club. He's not bothered if the fans of Mansfield Town are left biting their nails for a few days, it's all part and parcel of the circus as far as he's concerned. Strut, If qualifying for the title of "One of the best Manager's in the Football League" is gained by constantly berating and shouting at officials, having a scatter gun approach to signing players (at least 5 of the 7/8 players Evans brought to the club in January made very little impact) Treating players like there are purely a commodity, bending the rules as much as possible, (or even breaking them in terms of illegal player payments) the Yes, Evans is right up there. In my eyes, (as we saw from his strange starting line ups, and substitutions last season) the bloke is pretty average, and if you actually put him alongside genuine quality Managers in the FL, like Chris Wilder, or even Paul Cook, Evans would fall short, time and time again from a tactics, and squad building point of view. If Evans really wants to go to Swindon, tell the club not to spend any money on getting him there, as I'll gladly drive the bloke for free (with my headphones on, so I don't have to listen to the absolute 8o11ox that he spouts most of the time)

Read more at: http://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/mansfield-town/stags-turn-down-swindon-approach-for-manager-evans-1-8544320

Granted but as others have stated, some of their fans appear to think that they will be challenging for promotion next season (which is fine) however it's almost as if they are entitled to walk the league. I think they'll finish 10th.

One thing that concerns me if Evans does join us, is the loyalty he would of shown to Mansfield.

Having been there 6 months and jumped at the 1st opportunity, who’s to say he wouldn’t do the same to us if we start the season well and a bigger club comes in for him?

Imagine Evans only has loyalty to one person, and that is no more Lee Power than it is John or Carolyn Radford.

True of most managers though. Look at Wise (and T**d proving a good start isn't even necessary).

Mr Kipling?

Pretty much any manager would be off if the right approach came in, gawd knows we've lost a few ourselves in that manner.

If he does join us only to be poached further along the line, take heart that it'll likely be because he did well.

I can't tell if that's a genuine comment.

I'd be very amused by Lee Power approaching Mansfield for permission to tell Steve Evans he wouldn't appoint him in a milion years.

Bollocks to Steve Evans. Is this how low the club has sunk?
Cunts like that now the preferred choice.

That is a moot point we may sink lower yet, before bottoming out.

I'm far from convinced that Power is actively seeeking Evans, he is the sort of thing we need in order to keep FL status, but the Mansfield fans... fan appeaser line does ring true, we've seen it with players like Bradshaw and Nichols.

The club is not as well run as many non league outfits...

Well he does make exceedingly good cakes!

I beginning to think that it may be Evans who's playing a game...

Power and Evans are mates... Evans gets a bit of leverage at Mansfield, Power gets to look like he's pursuing a proper boss. Win/win

That's all very good, Reg, but what this has done is very publicly raise fans expectations. If not Evans then surely the money is there to spend on a different decent manager. It also points to having a decent budget to attract Evans.

If it subsequently proves to be our usual low key recruitment then whatever credibility Power has will be shot to pieces.

I cant see Power would do that, it would be enough to help him for just rumours linking him to the job for that.

Power is obviously after an experienced lower league manager, the question is though if we dont get Evans, then who gets approached next ?

I have probably missed it but what evidence is to support this idea, bat Evans once signing Power for Boston?

What's Brian McDermott up to nowadays? He'd tick the boxes for me. Good youth set up experience where he served his coaching apprenticeship plus he did a good job at Reading. I like how he speaks too.

I'll go out on a limb and say it won't be Evans

What was the target date for the new appointment?

Beginning of September?

("within 8 days" which I think is Friday).

From the FB group:


Which seems to blow out the rumours that he has been interviewed surely?

I don't see how you come to that conclusion. Interviewing somebody and offering them the job are two very different things.

Signed him from Halifax I believe.

Define "interviewed".

A club can't formally/publically just go round tapping up contracted managers or players. Informally it happens all the time.

Who knows.

Steve Cotterill anyone?

He has turned down the role of assistant at Birmingham.

You'd think that bridges were burnt to a crisp after 2014-15.

Spot on.

On the cunt scale, slightly less of one that Evans. Slightly.  Could work (for a bit).

I still love this observation of Steve Cotterill.

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Brilliant !

hahaha. poetic.

Would be "fun" when he had a run in with Power, which would be inevitable I feel.

We may also be in the Champions League by 2022

Tenner says we're not :)

sorry, I meant Fulham - wrong forum...

Spot on x2

This is almost as shambolic as last season - good work  :clap:

I think we're still within timescales of acceptability but the clock is ticking.

The Portsmouth manager in that book is blatantly Michael Appleton

I've not read it but that second paragraph is a nailed on observation of Cotterill. We don't need any book to confirm that!

Without doubt, especially as Kitson retired a year early shortly after Appleton became Oxford manager.

Not really...Evans doesn't have much of rep beyond being a dodgy lower league boss. Power doesn't have any credibility.

However, I think most fans will be happy, if we can at least look like a side that goes out to try and win games with a few players who look like pros.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/15288980.Archibald_would__consider__Town_move/

I am loving the comments across all social media about potential managers:

"Evans is a cunt, I willl never watch a game with him in charge"

"Cotterill is a cunt, I will never watch a game in charge"

"Archibald is a Power puppet, we need a 'hard fucker' as a manager, not a wimp"

"We need an experienced manager, not a kid"

The few that "hate" Evans is because he called the club a circus when PDC was here, the few that "hate" Cotterill is because of his comments about the club when we beat them at the CG a couple seasons back.

Whoever is brought in is going to divide the fans, they either hate the person "because he is a cunt" or because they aren't a "hard fucker" and will be a "Power puppet".

My worry about him would be the new man/woman is going to have to build a squad more or less from scratch. it needs someone who knows Div 4/Conference level, and it needs to start asap, otherwise we'll be in the same position as the last couple of seasons.

I know it's a bit easier in Div 4 with only two down, but we need someone to hit the ground running...

Just noticed betting odds, Archibald has gone out from evens to 3-1, Fatty has gone from 7-4 to 1-3 favourite,  let's hope it's the same as Corbyn and Trump and the bookies have fucked up.  PLEASE ............... A MILLION TIMES PLEASE.

Patrick Thistle's recruitment isn't a million miles off L2/National League standard. They dip in to similar talents pools of than Swindon will be under whoever takes over.

Abdul Osman, David Amoo, Mustapha Dumbuya, Ade Azeez, Adam Barton all Partick players with lower Football League experience while Christie Elliott joined from the Northern League. All of them helping Thistle finish in the top half of the Scottish Premiership.

I'd imagine there must be a core of Sweatie players though.  Your list was 6 long, the last time I looked, ours was nearer to 15.

That's clearly a come and get me, the only concern is he would not necessarily know what players are needed for L2 and we need to hit the ground running with recruitment

If the approaching of Evans was really all just a ploy for Power to look like he was doing something, would the club not be publicising it, everything to date appears to have come from the Mansfield end, and it is not really clear why they have publicised it either unless its to try and show the fans that they are trying to keep hold of him?

I think it more likely Evans has publicised it unofficially to put Mansfield's owner under pressure.

more likely than Power pulling the 'unrealistic signing' publicity stunt ...  again .. that is.

but who knows.

my take is Evans expressed an interest and is either coming, or been headed off by Mansfield upping his budget and making a move to us less appealing...

oh and Mansfield have signed another player (not McNulty)..

doesn't scream of the manager leaving.

Maybe he's not responsible for player recruitment at Mansfield  ;).

fair comment, but not believe to be the case according to young Wills

Mansfield fans should be grateful that we let them have Ray Clarke for fuck all...I'd imagine Ray must be up there in the top 5 Stags players of all time.

Town to sign Zander Diamond and Marc McNulty day just days after Statement Friday...

If he's appointed, the day he leaves can't come soon enough.

It certainly reads like that but maybe he is being clever and not distancing himself from it to give himself room to negotiate with his current club over what he needs to push them any further (if possible).

I have to say if its a choice between Archibald and Evans i go with Archibald all day long. Evans had success with money at Crawley and pretty crap spells everywhere else, not even counting his odious personality. Archibald on face value seems to have done well on a low budget and has continually improved a club. So what he doesn't know league 2, neither did PDC or Dennis Wise.

Didn't Evans win back to back promotions with Rotherham?

Mansfield signing number 4. (not Fraser, not Fraser) Digby.

can we put Evans to Swindon to bed now?

Mansfield have just completed their second signing of the day.....
It's looking less and less likely to be Evans, I still think there is going to be some twists and turns to come.

You are quite right, turns out i know nothing! Still don't want the prick

Both had a decent nucleus of players from the previous campaign to work with...we've got Luke Norris and erm maybe Dion Conroy, who's played maybe a dozen games.

I wouldn't want a nucleus of the players we had last season anyway. I don't see the level he has managed at in Scotland as much of a difference to league two/one so he knows the standard of players he needs for the job.

I haven't been approached yet, but I would strongly consider moving if Swindon Town were to offer me the job of manager.  I would certainly listen to what Mr Power had to say, but I am happy with my life at the moment and the job I am doing.

(Does that say come and get me too?)

I hope that's the case.  He's an odious and vile man.  After last season's shambles, surely Power would not be so stupid to make such a divisive appointment?

Whatever the outcome, it's fast becoming a bit of a farce.  Same old Swindon!

That does indeed sound like a "come get me Mr Power"

What is 'it' and how is 'it' becoming a farce?

How is it becoming a farce? didn't we say 8 days a few days ago and everything else appears to be either agents or clubs leaking their own info out, nothing has come from us so far has it?

Just signed player number 5. Paul Anderson this time

another another new signing for Mansfield....

their fans could be right about things

What I've found strange, is they've announced 3 signings today, and not one of the articles they've put up has any direct quotes from Evans.
Also, there are photos of the contracts being signed next to the CEO with Evans nowhere to be seen.

There making signings but out of the 3 today I would only have wanted Anderson. Is it a case of the club making the signings before he departs? There are certainly no quotes from Evans or pictures with the signings. Money is also a massive factor and players will be on more money at Mansfield than if they came here with the money their Chairman is putting in.

Wouldn't it be nice to be the club that make all their signings this early in the summer rather than be the ones that wait till the end!

As for new manager I would guess its between Evans, Archibald, Hasselbaink or Keith Hill but its just whether a club will agree to a deal

Perhaps chairman is panicking and just signing everyone to try and keep him happy :D

She is a bit more photogenic that Evans....

So is a slug.

Nor would I. But whoever it is has got to come in, build a complete squad in a matter of weeks, get them ready and have them playing winning football. Not an easy thing to do for any manager.

You mean like Di Canio did..

to be fair, some of PDCs early signings were dodgy to say the least.

Reg was probably loving it when we lost 4 of the first 5 games.

I wondered where you had gone?

Have you been away?

Just in case you missed it....we went down...total fuck up!

After how soft Williams has been, I really wouldn't mind seeing the opposite of the new manager.

Not just his early signings he made some poor signings but also some great signings too, heres a few of the duds....Commazzi, Atiku, Lanzano, Esajas, Risser, Boateng(loan), Cox, Gabilondo, Tehoue(loan), Magera, Murray

He won't work here.

We don't get that many in until mid September!

Interestingly when we won the title in 85-86 we only won 2 of our first 8 games and lost 5 of those.

Do you think fans were more understanding then, because I think if our new manager has that kind of start next season there will be many calling for him to be sacked

Cheers, but that's not why I hate Evans at all. I've said worse things about the club under PDC than Evans did myself.

I'll repeat myself.

 When he began PdC could happily pick 7 of 11 starters already on the books, which included players like Caddis, Flint, and Ritchie, all of whom have been in the Championship or in Ritchie's case Prem recently. He could also stick Nathan and Ferry on the bench. An XI of already contracted players would have been possible.

Our new manager is going to have Conroy, whose played about a dozen games, Conor Thomas, who most don't rate, 4 goal striker Luke Norris, with Jon Goddard. However you want to dress it up, that is not a strong core for a FL club even in the basement.

No doubt the XI for our opener, will have the fewest STFC FL games under their belt since the opener v Luton in 1920.

http://mobile.mansfieldtown.net//news/article/2016-17/gaffer-excited-after-hat-trick-of-signings-3718096.aspx

PDC did bring in a lot of players that summer - most of them were pretty dreadful through a variety of agent connections - Atiku, Comazzi, Lanzano, Magera, Risser etc. - in some ways he was very lucky that we had a lot of very talented players in the squad already. Can't deny that he got them fit and playing together, but building a squad was not his forte.

Yes, this is the point....if PdC hadn't the core of quality around, given some of the dross who he brought in we'd have struggled.

The new manager isn't going to have that advantage... the Evans thing as suspected looks increasingly like a smokescreen, but he's showing at Stags, that to build a squad you need to crack on with it.

If that was the Macari season, we actually got him re-instated after he'd been sacked - so yes

Not all fans are stupid... Macari had managed to turn around the home form in 84/85...fans could see a side looking to win the game, could see players improving. The slow start in 85/86 was a consequence of only 3 home games in the first 8 and the away form still being a problem. The opener at the CG was lost, but the next 2 won...in fact the 1-0 defeat to Wrexham was the only loss that season, also there was progress in the LC.

The new manager is going to need to show some evidence of t e home form being at least more acceptable than the historic shite we've had to put up with the last couple of seasons.

I don't know where it's come from, but it's coming from somewhere.  Why not just keep things quiet about who we're speaking to until there's something concrete to avoid all the speculation?  Other clubs seem to manage it.

I'm quite sure other teams without managers will be going through the same...

Fans and the media look at potential targets, just like this 42 page thread! Fans put money on tips/rumours/hopes, betting odds tumble, the adver contacts the favourites clubs to see if manager is interested hoping for a scoop. I can't see any comment from Swindon at all in this I don't know why you think it's the club

We have kept things quiet haven't we? Mansfield came out and said they'd refused us permission, Swindon haven't said a word about it.
It's been either the Adver/Total or Mansfield, that's reported it. All Power has said officially is he'd like an appointment in 8 days. So think its a bit unfair to criticise Power/the club for what's currently in the media.

I am not sure, I know that back then we were pretty shit so we accepted we were shit and anything extra was a nice bonus.

It was Macari in charge but the reinstatement season was the one prior to that season, happened around Easter time after Macari and Harry Gregg had a massive fall out over training methods, the board sacking them both but reinstating Macari after large scale (for us) protests.

During this situation Swindon Town and Lee Power haven't done anything majorly wrong whatsoever.

- They've given timescales (which was probably more hopeful than concrete)
- They've kept quiet
- They've not negotiated via the media

Nowadays these actions will result in

- The initial date being magnified to result in any appointment made after the self-imposed deadline being deemed as recruitment out of desperation. Especially if it's not someone from the bookmakers list.

- Criticism for not keeping the loyal fans up-to-date unlike that lovely Peterborough chairman on Twitter.

- Being criticised for going through the media even though it's Mansfield and Partick have been talking about it openly.

There will come a point when it's been too long but right now footballers are in Las Vegas and Dubai and we need to (ideally) get this appointment right. Therefore I'm happy to give Power longer on this.

Is he still not here...

think I'll start to worry at the end of next week, mainly because I assumed we had a bit of a plan with the timescale and "well underway" search.

There is a lot to be done at this club.

He's moaned at when he doesn't tell us what's happening. Now he's being moaned at because he is telling us what's happening, even though he actually isn't.

You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't, and you're damned to be accused of doing so even if you're not.

I agree I don't think Power has done anything wrong or handled anything in the incorrect way regarding this saga at all.

I am not a fan of Powers methods but he has done nothing wrong whatsoever in our search for a new manager and any moaning is just moaning for moans sake, another stick to beat Power with.