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Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:15:54
It does exactly what it says on the tin.

Personally, I want an untried player/manager type.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: michael on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:17:54
I want anyone famous.  8)


Title: Re:
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:20:00
An experienced but obtainable manager like Gary Megson for me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:20:23
Alan McCormack, Alan McCormack.. ALAN.. ALAN

as Player Manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:20:42
We aren't going to get an experienced pro so that leaves us with a lower league success or a first timer.

We've had great luck with first timers through the years, so it's a name for me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chubbs on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:22:36
Take your pick :-)
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ron dodgers on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:24:20
I want the bloke called Quim


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:26:32
All the ones I'd like are unrealistic. Jackett would be top of my list!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:27:02
Malpas. Or Hart.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:28:14
Someone with lots of L2 experience such as Dave Jones, Martin Allen etc


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: NorthernRed on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:29:22
Early thoughts:

Chris Ramsey (ex Spurs and QPR, not the comedian)
Jimmy FH

Outside shout:

Alan Stubbs


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:30:17
Take your pick from this list of TEF favourites:

Paul Tisdale
Sheena Easton
Dave Hockaday
Paolo di Canio
Steve Cotterill
Steve Lomas
Ian Culverhouse (for DV)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:31:38
Fatbury


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:32:46
Quote from: garethgillman
Someone with lots of L2 experience such as Dave Jones, Martin Allen etc
er,I agree with Gillman.

not sure it's possible unless 'the model' is abandoned


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:42:15
Martin Allen, Nigel Adkins, Paul Ince, Gary Megson or Brian McDermott for me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:42:37
I want the bloke called Quim

Would he bring Cominge back?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:47:47
Will they appoint another Head Coach or will they appoint a Manager and remove Sherwood. Hopefully (not likely) there is some suggestion of this in the club statement later today.

Most of the names listed so far here are cunts anyway like M Allen and N Adkins, but luckily neither of those pricks are going to work as a Head Coach.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:48:37
All the ones I'd like are unrealistic. Jackett would be top of my list!

Yep


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:49:24
Someone with lots of L2 experience such as Dave Jones, Martin Allen etc

Dave Jones as in the one sacked recently by Hartlepool?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:50:13
Prefer - Danny Cowley or Jimmy Floyd Hasslebaink.

Likely - Chris Ramsey or Luke Garrard.

Probably - Dermot Drummy or Alan McCormack.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:51:25
Quote from: tans
Quote
Someone with lots of L2 experience such as Dave Jones, Martin Allen etc
Dave Jones as in the one sacked recently by Hartlepool?
someone like him, not actually him

Davy Jones from the monkeys..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:53:10
Dave Jones as in the one sacked recently by Hartlepool?
someone like him, not actually him

Davy Jones from the monkeys..

Not the one with the locker, then?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bewster on Friday, May 5, 2017, 10:58:45
Lou Macari/Glenn Hoddle combo

PDC as fitness coach


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:03:33
Lou Macari/Glenn Hoddle combo

PDC as fitness coach
Stephen Hawking would make a better fitness coach than what we have had this season TBH.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:06:34

We've had great luck with first timers through the years, so it's a name for me.

Same here. Scott Parker would fit the bill.
In theory Power could still make a profit on a manager with a buy out clause of some sort or add on if they go on to manage in the PL for example.

Failing that, dig out someone who is making their way in / having some success in non-league.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:08:24


Failing that, dig out someone who is making their way in / having some success in non-league.

Gavin Rose has worked wonders at Dulwich Hamlet, he's also currently refusing to sign a new contract, due to issues with the owners. Admittedly I'm a bit biased on this one, as they are my other team.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Wilf Shergold on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:25:34
Gavin Rose has worked wonders at Dulwich Hamlet, he's also currently refusing to sign a new contract, due to issues with the owners. Admittedly I'm a bit biased on this one, as they are my other team.

Good old Hamlet, loved those pink shirts, lived up the road for years so a soft spot for me too, specially in that great old ground.

Someone like John Still knows our level better than anyone in the game. He'll know the leaders at that level be they players or current managers. I'd pay him as a consultant to recommend a hungry young man, not necc a big name, then ask him to mentor whoever he suggests for a year as they learn the ropes. He'd know straight away if someone like Gavin Rose is up for it.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:31:00
Dave Jones as in the one sacked recently by Hartlepool?
someone like him, not actually him

Davy Jones from the monkeys..

I'd rather Mike Nesmith, if we're going down that route.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:34:27
I think Alan Mac could get it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:36:17
Someone young, forward thinking and dynamic but with some experience/success.

Realistic options: Waddock, Garrard, Shaun Derry (if he brings Luke Berry with him!), Ainsworth, Marcus Bignot

Please not: Megson, Allen, Wilson, Evans, Jones, Cotterill

Think Chris Ramsay is likely, based on nothing other than a hunch.

Also, looking at what Nathan Jones has done at Luton, I'm certainly not going to write someone off if they come from that background of a highly qualified but inexperienced coach.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:36:55
I think Alan Mac could get it

Wouldn't surprise me, but he's not really boss material, better off where he is.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:38:09
Wouldn't surprise me, but he's not really boss material, better off where he is.

Dont think he would want the job anyway


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:39:06
Dont think he would want the job anyway
If he's got any sense, he'll look at what's happened to Williams and stick where he is.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:43:48
Is Ady Viveash still at Chelsea? Would make sense


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Friday, May 5, 2017, 11:58:18
Wouldn't surprise me, but he's not really boss material, better off where he is.

I agree but people have ambitions and I think he'd fit the criteria.

If we could get someone in to do it his way, without interference then I'd go for mad dog Allen


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 5, 2017, 12:07:10
I agree but people have ambitions and I think he'd fit the criteria.

If we could get someone's in to do it his way, without interference then I'd go for mad dog Allen

No thanks, his uncle was bad enough.

If it is to be believed, then the job will be advertised, like any other job.... spec outlined, pay etc, and then see who applies. Get a shortlist and do interviews. Power could earn himself some cred with the fans if he put a fan on the interview panel.

The Trust fella Mytton talks sense


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 5, 2017, 12:09:47
Is Ady Viveash still at Chelsea? Would make sense
If he's prepared to take a pretty substantial pay cut and risk his reputation being trashed. Williams will act as a cautionary tale to a lot of coaches wondering about using Swindon to take a step up from Academy coaching to manager


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, May 5, 2017, 12:11:12
Jackett would be stand out choice for me.

Luke Garrard would be the punt that could be worth taking. Done wonders on a tiny budget in the conference


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 5, 2017, 12:16:00
Hopefully whoever does get it, is given 2 years. 5 year contract was just idiotic


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, May 5, 2017, 12:19:30
If it is to be believed, then the job will be advertised
On the canteen board at QPR


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, May 5, 2017, 12:23:33

If it is to be believed, then the job will be advertised, like any other job.... spec outlined, pay etc, and then see who applies. Get a shortlist and do interviews. Power could earn himself some cred with the fans if he put a fan on the interview panel.


To encourage a broad range of applicants the advert should have the "experience preferred but not essential, as full training will be provided" line.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, May 5, 2017, 12:36:44
If he's prepared to take a pretty substantial pay cut and risk his reputation being trashed. Williams will act as a cautionary tale to a lot of coaches wondering about using Swindon to take a step up from Academy coaching to manager
2 ways to look at that though. Some may admire the way he was given longer than he should have been


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, May 5, 2017, 12:40:34
No thanks, his uncle was bad enough.

If it is to be believed, then the job will be advertised, like any other job.... spec outlined, pay etc, and then see who applies. Get a shortlist and do interviews. Power could earn himself some cred with the fans if he put a fan on the interview panel.

The Trust fella Mytton talks sense

You haven't seen the fans page on facebook then; a lot of our fans are mouth breathing types


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 5, 2017, 13:04:50
You haven't seen the fans page on facebook then; a lot of our fans are mouth breathing types

No I haven't, people keep referring to this mythical place, but I've no desire to look. I can imagine what it is like.

The whole facebook thing has largely passed me by...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, May 5, 2017, 13:16:17
Try Myspace


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 5, 2017, 13:27:14
Simon Ferry's up for it:

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Replying to @WillSugg92 @TrustSTFC
Il boot arses


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 5, 2017, 13:30:35
still no official comment...

thought they might have simply been caught on the hop by the news leaking, but a bit slow getting a statement out aren't they?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, May 5, 2017, 13:32:12
Its only been a few hours...

In terms of new manager - anyone who has more nous about how to win a football match than Williams  approach.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, May 5, 2017, 13:32:28
Good old Hamlet, loved those pink shirts, lived up the road for years so a soft spot for me too, specially in that great old ground.

Someone like John Still knows our level better than anyone in the game. He'll know the leaders at that level be they players or current managers. I'd pay him as a consultant to recommend a hungry young man, not necc a big name, then ask him to mentor whoever he suggests for a year as they learn the ropes. He'd know straight away if someone like Gavin Rose is up for it.


Dulwich Hamlet eh?  My uncle used to have a season ticket to the old ground by the railway, used to stay with my gran in the flats on Dog Kennel Hill!!  Memories!!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, May 5, 2017, 13:39:08
Dulwich Hamlet eh?  My uncle used to have a season ticket to the old ground by the railway, used to stay with my gran in the flats on Dog Kennel Hill!!  Memories!!!

The new ground is next door to the old one, which is now a Sainsbury's, so still on Dog Kennel Hill.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, May 5, 2017, 14:26:00
Used to live very close.  Well Barry road in East Dulwich.  Lovely part of London (until the end of the road when you're in to Peckham)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, May 5, 2017, 14:52:36
The new ground is next door to the old one, which is now a Sainsbury's, so still on Dog Kennel Hill.
Yes, had a wander around a couple of years ago - they have had some decent players through their hands over the years.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Friday, May 5, 2017, 15:10:59
Paolo Di Canio

I'm really not up to speed with whose who in management anymore but Jackett has always done a decent job higher up the pyramid than we are currently.

If we could tempt him, great do it.

If not, I'd like to see us try the 'new manager' route


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Friday, May 5, 2017, 15:14:53
If not, I'd like to see us try the 'new manager' route

As opposed to the 'no manager' route?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Friday, May 5, 2017, 15:16:09
Well, you could argue we've done that a few times

As in new to management - rather than a managerial merry-go-round manager who has been sacked countless times before and never achieved anything anywhere but somehow keeps getting jobs.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 5, 2017, 15:17:09
I'll settle for someone who has basic competence.

The chances of getting someone though are slim... Power is going to have to trim the budget, by a £mill, and then presumably still be paying Luke off, unless he can agree a lump sum, out of the proceeds of any Vigs sale.

Anton Rodgers player/manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, May 5, 2017, 15:35:57
I'll settle for someone who has basic competence.

The chances of getting someone though are slim... Power is going to have to trim the budget, by a £mill, and then presumably still be paying Luke off, unless he can agree a lump sum, out of the proceeds of any Vigs sale.

Anton Rodgers player/manager.

I'm guessing, but there's no way LW's contract was actually 5 years with no break clauses. I'd be very surprised if he's due anything more than a couple of months.


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Benzel on Friday, May 5, 2017, 15:56:51
Is Ady Viveash still at Chelsea? Would make sense
He is. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/video-chelsea-u21-coach-adi-viveash-scores-casual-chip-training?utm_m_medium=t

Sent from my SM-G930F


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 5, 2017, 16:06:25
I'm guessing, but there's no way LW's contract was actually 5 years with no break clauses. I'd be very surprised if he's due anything more than a couple of months.

Of course we'll never know, but the LMA are pretty hot on making sure their members, get what is due to them.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, May 5, 2017, 16:56:13
Of course we'll never know, but the LMA are pretty hot on making sure their members, get what is due to them.

He'll get what's due in his contract, as he agreed. Anyway, he's gone by mutual consent, not sacked, so a package has obviously been agreed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 5, 2017, 17:24:55
Chang should be the new manager. He's got some amazing contacts in the game and as we all know, he's got all the answers.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Friday, May 5, 2017, 17:50:55
Luc Nijholt, has experience in bringing through youth in his current employment at Dutch side AZ. Also has international experience (albeit with Qatar).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Friday, May 5, 2017, 18:08:53
Chang should be the new manager. He's got some amazing contacts in the game and as we all know, he's got all the answers.

All he'd need to do is predict a defeat before each game and we'd be undefeated all season!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Friday, May 5, 2017, 18:16:36
Jackett for me, but unlikely to happen, I couldn't see him working in the way that Power works.  We will end up with a cheap option no doubt.

If we go down the cheap route let's take a punt on a new manager/ex player..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wokinghamred on Friday, May 5, 2017, 18:29:04
Same here. Scott Parker would fit the bill.
In theory Power could still make a profit on a manager with a buy out clause of some sort or add on if they go on to manage in the PL for example.

Failing that, dig out someone who is making their way in / having some success in non-league.

Saw Scott Parker come on for Fulham against Leeds a couple of weeks ago - he would make a decent player/manager shout!

I know he hasn't managed since he left Port Vale, but I thought the chairman's comments about Micky Adams were interesting.

 "I did not realise what a big asset Micky Adams was until he left us who, in reality, he was much more than just the manager. On his departure I became vulnerable without his structured management of the football department."

We need someone to manage the football department, although that may not be how Power sees the role !



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 5, 2017, 18:36:55
I keep hearing the name Scott Parker popping up. I must confess I've no idea who he is.

Why does his name keep popping up over others? Does he have links to Power or something?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 5, 2017, 18:42:09
I keep hearing the name Scott Parker popping up. I must confess I've no idea who he is.

Why does his name keep popping up over others? Does he have links to Power or something?

No. Sonic Youth loves him and he's managed to create a movement  :)

Scott Parker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Parker


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, May 5, 2017, 18:42:31
I keep hearing the name Scott Parker popping up. I must confess I've no idea who he is.


 :eek:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, May 5, 2017, 18:43:02
I keep hearing the name Scott Parker popping up. I must confess I've no idea who he is.

Why does his name keep popping up over others? Does he have links to Power or something?

Ex player for Newcastle, Charlton and others, managed at Port vale for a short period....... apart from that don't know if he has any links to Power, maybe because he is an ex-player like PDC / Wise / Hoddle / Macari that he might be a good "cheap" manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 5, 2017, 18:44:26
:eek:

What's 350+ Premier League appearances to someone when you're supporting a lower league side while living in Thailand?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, May 5, 2017, 18:48:39
Who was sacked at Norwich? Gave us Toffolo, a goalkeeper and cash for Thompson? Alex Neil?

More likely though to be the bloke who was a manager up in Scotland who was shortlisted when Ling got the job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, May 5, 2017, 18:48:46
Ex player for Newcastle, Charlton and others, managed at Port vale for a short period....... apart from that don't know if he has any links to Power, maybe because he is an ex-player like PDC / Wise / Hoddle / Macari that he might be a good "cheap" manager.

Must have managed Port Vale in a parralel universe!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 5, 2017, 18:55:13
Steve Evans has instigated the beginning of the end of his career at Mansfield.................

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39816162


:popcorn:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 5, 2017, 19:02:14
What's 350+ Premier League appearances to someone when you're supporting a lower league side while living in Thailand?

Exactly. It may sound odd to you lot over there initially, but I only follow STFC. I'm not much of a neutral fan and rarely watch/follow anything else. There's no reason for me to know of him (although having just googled him I was surprised to see he has England caps)

I bet I know more about the lower leagues than a lot of football 'fans' in the UK, though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 5, 2017, 19:05:31
Exactly. It may sound odd to you lot over there initially, but I only follow STFC. I'm not much of a neutral fan and rarely watch/follow anything else. There's no reason for me to know of him (although having just googled him I was surprised to see he has England caps)

I bet I know more about the lower leagues than a lot of football 'fans' in the UK, though.

(The question mark made my comment read sarcastic but I wasn't joking)

There are definitely a few recent England internationals/up-and-coming PL England prospects that I could pass in the street without noticing. That wouldn't have been the case a few years ago.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 5, 2017, 19:07:47
No worries, I didn't take it as a slight.

The ones I do know about are the ones the press will go on about, other than the sport's pages. I suppose Scott Parker is not the type to get himself into trouble or in the limelight for whatever reason?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Friday, May 5, 2017, 19:14:48
Parker was excellent for Spurs and always came across as a decent chap. Completely the opposite kind of player to one we'd ever play, though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 5, 2017, 19:17:58
Player-managers are a dying breed these days, aren't they?

The likes of Rowlands and Nolan only register themselves in case of an emergency.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, May 5, 2017, 19:18:39
Must have managed Port Vale in a parralel universe!

Must have, I don't know why I had him down as player manager at PV at some point...... mind playing tricks on me


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Friday, May 5, 2017, 19:39:45
Think Panda Paws mentioned him, I'd like Marcus Bignot. Seem to recall it seemed odd/harsh that he was sacked from Grimsby so reckon he deserves another crack at league management.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 5, 2017, 19:47:31
Steve Evans has instigated the beginning of the end of his career at Mansfield.................

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39816162


:popcorn:
God I hope not. Hopefully he'd rule himself out anyway:

"Evans told BBC Radio Nottingham he was "not a League Two manager"."

No, you're a cheating tax fraud criminal who shouldn't be in football.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leftside on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:03:56
Luc Nijholt, has experience in bringing through youth in his current employment at Dutch side AZ. Also has international experience (albeit with Qatar).
Yes, surely his time has finally come...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:05:49
Yes, surely his time has finally come...

Well. He's already got two Swindon Town relegations under his belt...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Wilf Shergold on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:06:34
Dulwich Hamlet eh?  My uncle used to have a season ticket to the old ground by the railway, used to stay with my gran in the flats on Dog Kennel Hill!!  Memories!!!

Champion Hill, in the '70s: big old crumbling terraces, used to hold 20,000. Really atmospheric with 200 there at night (180 of 'em in the bar tho....), floodlight pylons like ours.

A place where the likes of John Still got their bargain basement gems.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:07:05
Nijholt would be the kind of appointment that would be dramatically disastrous or stupendously successful.

Perfect.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leftside on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:07:55
Well. He's already got two Swindon Town relegations under his belt...
Indeed, he knows us well.

I bet his hair style is exactly the same.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:18:44
Quote from: Flashheart
Nijholt would be the kind of appointment that would be dramatically disastrous or stupendously successful.

Perfect.


quite. My reservation (other than not knowing if he's any cop) is he's one of my all time favourite players - I'd hate to see that tarnished!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:20:30
Incidentally do we think the search "is well under way" means they have someone in mind, or  just generic babble?

can see it being Chris bloody Ramsay to be honest.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Family at War on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:36:51
Would like to see Paul Benson given a chance if not as Manager then Assistant


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:40:58
Incidentally do we think the search "is well under way" means they have someone in mind, or  just generic babble?



I expect they started putting the feelers out weeks ago.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Wilf Shergold on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:51:07
Used to live very close.  Well Barry road in East Dulwich.  Lovely part of London (until the end of the road when you're in to Peckham)

Blimey, lived in Barry Road too, near the Clock House. Newlands Arms across the Rye, saw all the pub rock bands there - Dr Feelgood, Ian Dury, Ace, Mickey Jupp, Kursaal Flyers, Strummer's 101ers.... happy daze. Left early '80s, areas totally changed now.

As to a manager: it'll be a Power mate, so I ain't losing sleep over it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:52:01
Would like to see Paul Benson given a chance if not as Manager then Assistant

If he's not still playing he'd have gone back to his job in the City.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:53:41
If he's not still playing he'd have gone back to his job in the City.

I am sure I heard his name last night during the D&R and FGR game

Yep I did - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Benson


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: MichaelPook on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:56:55
Fatbury

I have to agree 100 percent


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: MichaelPook on Friday, May 5, 2017, 20:57:49
I think Waddock is a very good choice


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: newmarket red on Friday, May 5, 2017, 21:04:27
Who ever it is will be a shit cheap appointment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 5, 2017, 21:07:21
Who ever it is will be a shit cheap appointment.
yeah because you can predict the future obviously! Every post you ever make is repetitive and beyond negative.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, May 5, 2017, 21:12:00
yeah because you can predict the future obviously! Every post you ever make is repetitive and beyond negative.

Must be from the FB group  ::)

Was Lingy "cheap and shit"  ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, May 5, 2017, 21:15:53
This thread has been a great read. Highlights so far have to be John Still being given a mentoring role, Steve Mytton being on the interview panel and a serious suggestion for Gary fucking Waddock.

Keep it up please fellas.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, May 5, 2017, 21:19:28

Blimey, lived in Barry Road too, near the Clock House. Newlands Arms across the Rye, saw all the pub rock bands there - Dr Feelgood, Ian Dury, Ace, Mickey Jupp, Kursaal Flyers, Strummer's 101ers.... happy daze. Left early '80s, areas totally changed now.

As to a manager: it'll be a Power mate, so I ain't losing sleep over it.

Lived half way up above Barry Road stores.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, May 5, 2017, 21:26:27
Who was sacked at Norwich? Gave us Toffolo, a goalkeeper and cash for Thompson? Alex Neil?

More likely though to be the bloke who was a manager up in Scotland who was shortlisted when Ling got the job.
Just realised that was Ian Baraclough (Sligo & Motherwell) who has now been made NI U21 manager


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 5, 2017, 21:29:24
Just realised that was Ian Baraclough (Sligo & Motherwell) who has now been made NI U21 manager

Neil Adams was the Norwich contanct wasn't he?

Baraclough declared interest in the Town gig last time round.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, May 5, 2017, 21:54:09
I think Waddock is a very good choice

Good god. Oxford bastard


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Friday, May 5, 2017, 21:55:59
This thread has been a great read. Highlights so far have to be John Still being given a mentoring role, Steve Mytton being on the interview panel and a serious suggestion for Gary fucking Waddock.

Keep it up please fellas.

Almost as good as your predictions eh?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, May 5, 2017, 22:08:27
Tbf, Chang is right there


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, May 5, 2017, 22:14:02
Some fans like continuity, a lot of players in contract etc but for me this summer is going to be exciting. A high turnover of players, loads of rumours, lots of unknowns, getting to find out the new hero or Rodgers. And now we have a new manager to add to the mix. Going to be a fun summer


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 5, 2017, 22:16:40
Some fans like continuity, a lot of players in contract etc but for me this summer is going to be exciting. A high turnover of players, loads of rumours, lots of unknowns, getting to find out the new hero or Rodgers. And now we have a new manager to add to the mix. Going to be a fun summer

Yep, should be interesting.

I don't anticipate this managerial recruitment drive taking a long time like Martin Ling's appointment (even though we all knew it would be Martin Ling long before the appointment).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 5, 2017, 22:16:46
exciting yes.

good or bad I'm not sure.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Wilf Shergold on Friday, May 5, 2017, 22:37:12
Highlights so far have to be John Still being given a mentoring role,

And your knowledge of him is what?

Me? He gets no-money teams promoted or into play-offs, polishes turds better than most, has the fittest teams in the league, has an encyclopaedic knowledge of lower league football. He's the only manager I've seen who used to clear a terrace at halftime as everyone stands outside the dressing room listening to his halftime team 'talk' (Leytonstone/Ilford).

And given freedom of the borough in Dagenham and Luton.

But no, why would we want to tap into that knowledge?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Friday, May 5, 2017, 22:50:54
'Cheap option' seems to be the new 'what about the Ajose money' in terms of it basically meaning 'I'm not going to debate this properly, I'm just going to growl and repeat this phrase"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Friday, May 5, 2017, 22:52:54
I'm taking it that Embleton has gone too and the Sports Scientist?

For me I'd go tap up "John Still and take him from D&R. Give ^Scott Parker a coaching role to learn from Still.

When Still finally wants to retire in 3years, we'll be mid table in the Championship and have a ready made replacement**



"  This is the most serious part of my post.
^  My suggestion of SP is based on Dreamland.
** An indicator of sarcasm re:championship.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, May 5, 2017, 23:01:56
Might as well poach John Coleman if we go down that route.

Anyway, John Sitton for manager!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Friday, May 5, 2017, 23:14:16
Who was the Norwegian SY wanted before? What's Drillo up to?

I don't care what he's achieved but the man had his own ice cream ffs.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Christy on Friday, May 5, 2017, 23:42:54
I  think you've all missed the obvious point that it'll be Pat Fenlon, currently steering a booming Irish club called Waterford towards promotion, and has the experience, calibre and a random Swindon link too...

That he was born the day we won the League Cup in 1969 could be coincidence, but we know that it is our fate, destiny and ten years worth of Christmas presents sorted, all rolled into one.

Other than that, it's nice to play along so - Tisdale, Jackett, JFH or Neill would be a genuine lift; Ramsey, Dermot bloke, Hockaday or Macca more underwhelming but more likely.

(Serious point re Fenlon:  Power has gone with a big name manager and expensive squad to get Waterford promoted, and the approach is working...top of the league and averaging 1,500 compared to 300 last season...I wonder what he'll take from that...)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Friday, May 5, 2017, 23:53:41
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2quis8h.jpg)

Edit: sorry, wrong Irishman.

My uncle is friends with Martin O'Neill actually, maybe I'll have a word


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 01:34:13
Who was the Norwegian SY wanted before? What's Drillo up to?

I don't care what he's achieved but the man had his own ice cream ffs.
Tor Ole Skullerud. Missed the boat on that as he's now at Strømsgodset.

I'm only half joking about Parker. He's the type of experienced ex pro I'd be delighted to see given a go, he can certainly still play as well


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 08:04:04
sorry Christy, but expensive at Waterford is quite different to expensive at stfc.

I guess it was said out of hope but I just can't see the club affording an expensive gamble. which is fair enough.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 08:53:37
I'd quite like Hasselbaink, but that is somewhat unrealistic


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arch Stanton on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 08:57:13
Seriously, anyone but Dave Hockaday.... Great player etc. but his voice just grates and makes me want to crash my car on my way home from games, preferably into some livestock or something equally satisfying.

I'd personally like to see Adi Viveash take the huge step down (in quality, class, surroundings, facilities, players etc) and be the man to take us up, but he's got too much of a good thing going at Chelsea.





Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 09:31:17
Someone who at least looks like he gives the players a proper slog pre-season to get them at least looking remotely fit on the playing field would be a start.

Not sure in league 2 we are going to need skill over fitness. We need to be fit and strong next season.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 10:30:29
Incidentally do we think the search "is well under way" means they have someone in mind, or  just generic babble?

can see it being Chris bloody Ramsay to be honest.

The search started with Sherwood going through thier mobile phone contacts and randomly ringing them to see if they would be interested.....

Tim "Sorry Brendan I forgot you got a job in Jockoland"
Tim "Rambo hows it hanging? fancy a challenge?"
Tim "Adi...... wassup!"
Tim "Oi oi Sherwood....hows it hanging? oh its gone straight to answer phone....oh wait I got a voice message"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sippo on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 10:35:44
If we don't get a 'big' name, I guarantee some of our fans will moan. It will be Power this, power that. Blah blah blah.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 10:36:57
Quote from: Sippo
If we don't get a 'big' name, I guarantee some of our fans will moan. It will be Power this, power that. Blah blah blah.
that's going to happen whoever we get .


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 10:38:11
Quote from: Peter Venkman
Tim "Oi oi Sherwood....hows it hanging? oh its gone straight to answer phone....oh wait I got a voice message"

hahaha, that made me chuckle :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 10:44:28
'Cheap option' seems to be the new 'what about the Ajose money' in terms of it basically meaning 'I'm not going to debate this properly, I'm just going to growl and repeat this phrase"

Well unless something very strange happens cheap option is what it will be.

Back in the 80's when we finished in a lowly position in Div 4, a sponsor Lowndes Lambert, an insurer with offices in Swindon came in with the specific deal, that they would ring fence money to pay for a name player/manager..... nothing else. We got Lou Macari...as he said later one of the things which attracted him was that STFC, should be a bit higher in the pyramid, so some kind of success on the CV would be achievable.

Subsequently all our Div 4 managers, Wise/Poyet; Sturrock; PdC, have like Macari left for clubs higher up the food chain.

All well and good, but here's the rub, on each occasion money was thrown at it, which we didn't really have.  The present situation is more like the pre Macari days of John Trollope and Ken Beamish, going nowhere with the cheap option.

Michael Doughty player/manager


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 10:47:21
TBH I would love JFH but I don't think he would come down to us or work with such a tight model as enforced by Power.

Jackett is another big name ex manager but again would he work with such tight constraints?

It also depends on how eager these men are to return to management and at such a low level as L2.

I know Sonic often mentions Scott Parker but he could be a good shout, ex international player, out of contract at Fulham in July, fairly intelligent, not sure he wants to be a manager though and don't know if hes taken his coaching badges....possible though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 10:52:53
He has indeed
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jan/21/scott-parker-management-st-georges-park-coaching-fulham


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 11:00:24
Not beyond the realms of possibility then.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 11:04:19
Not beyond the realms of possibility then.

If you were a bright ambitious wannabe gaffer, would you want to work for Power?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 11:11:19
If you were a bright ambitious wannabe gaffer, would you want to work for Power?
TBF to Power he can come accross well in interviews, he says all the right things almost all the time.

It could be the first time that Parker would have met him during the interview process (if indeed he did apply) and may not know about Power at all and have no preconcieved ideas about him...in which case he could well be impressed by Power as he can talk the talk.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 11:15:04
I expect he'd want to stay in London anyway, Fulham would likely offer him a coaching role so unless he has an incredibly strong desire to cut his teeth in management down the M4 in League 2 it's a long shot. Still the type we should be looking at, if not necessarily Parker.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 11:24:56
I think you are probably right about him wanting to stay close to his young family.

As you say somebody like him would be my choice too....ex international level player with Premiership experience at several clubs under many managers, well educated, done his coaching badges or some of them already and coming to the end of their career....a combination that worked so well in the past at Swindon with Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle and to a lesser extent MacMahon.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 11:50:23
Adi Viveash leaving Chelsea.....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 16:03:58
Steven Pressley would be a good punt.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leftside on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 17:45:18
I think you are probably right about him wanting to stay close to his young family.

London -> Swindon is hardly Iolcus -> Colchis.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: digby on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 19:53:12
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Colin Calderwood who's assistant at Villa - he'd be a great Town manager, but alas, very unlikely !


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 19:55:19
Why would he go from a job that probably pays 200k a year to one where he would probably be paid 20 quid


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 20:11:21
Quote from: tans
Why would he go from a job that probably pays 200k a year to one where he would probably be paid 20 quid
to prove yourself and get a job that pays a lot more


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 21:16:02
Why would he go from a job that probably pays 200k a year to one where he would probably be paid 20 quid
Ambition?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 21:43:51
Calderwood has done better as an assistant than as a manager.

Don't get this 'former player stuff'

- Viveash is interesting because of success in the Chelseas youth set up
- Ramsay was a legend but not been a great manager
- Hockaday scored against Shilton from a cross but aint been that lucky as a manager
- Others that have managed in the lower leagues would probably not want to come


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 21:55:45
Calderwood had 2 promotions as manager,as assistant he has been around and must know many players.
Saying that why would he want to work for Power?   Dream on.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 22:09:30
Yeah was on about CC


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, May 6, 2017, 23:34:19
Calderwood would be a dreadful appointment


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, May 8, 2017, 09:54:22
Just seen Bodin parking in town centre. Clearly that will actually be because he lives locally and has popped into town to do some shopping/has an appointment/whatever but it seems churlish not to start a new manager rumour off the back of it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Monday, May 8, 2017, 11:44:39
Alan Stubbs wasn't given much chance at Rotherham and sacked after a bad run of 15 or so games, it proved as the season went on he was managing one of the worse Championships sides ever, he did a great job before at Hibernian.
Been out of work for quite a while now.
I doubt his salary when at Rotherham was mega bucks either.

I would prefer a young manager who has played at a higher level than some of the ex-Swindon guys being mentioned at the moment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 8, 2017, 11:50:47
Alan Stubbs wasn't given much chance at Rotherham and sacked after a bad run of 15 or so games, it proved as the season went on he was managing one of the worse Championships sides ever, he did a great job before at Hibernian.
Been out of work for quite a while now.
I doubt his salary when at Rotherham was mega bucks either.

I would prefer a young manager who has played at a higher level than some of the ex-Swindon guys being mentioned at the moment.

Scouse. No thanks.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 8, 2017, 11:57:34
Definately no thanks to Alan Stubbs, even Malpas and Calderwood had an ok record in Scotland and 1 win in 15 games at Rotherham doesn't inspire confidence in him being able to turn around a poor side.

I would prefer JFH but I think the odds of him actually coming would be minscule.

He was interviewed for the job before PdC came and the board chose the Italian when JFH was coaching at Forest having freshly completed his coaching badges with them and looking for his first managers position.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 8, 2017, 11:59:49
http://www.thesackrace.com/news/6th-may-2017/paolo-di-canio-linked-with-a-shock-return-to-swindon-town

Hmmm.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, May 8, 2017, 12:06:07
More chance of Paolo Vernazza.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, May 8, 2017, 13:01:45
Steve Evans rising up the bookies listings.....

Not sure Power would pay compensation
Evans is the type of manager you love to hate
Would Power seriously relinquish control of transfers
Greggs in the town would do a roaring trade
He does have experience and has had success

Power's appointments previously seem to have been hugely influenced by Sherwood, with previous incumbents being summoned to the Spurs training ground for interviews and to explain results, so I wonder who Sherwood will choose this time ?



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, May 8, 2017, 13:18:52
Steve Evans rising up the bookies listings.....

Not sure Power would pay compensation
Evans is the type of manager you love to hate
Would Power seriously relinquish control of transfers
Greggs in the town would do a roaring trade
He does have experience and has had success



That's a terrible poem. Doesn't even rhyme


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, May 8, 2017, 13:21:25
Perhaps Di Canio will just 'break in' again one night and take up residence in the Manager's Office.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, May 8, 2017, 13:31:04
Power's appointments previously seem to have been hugely influenced by Sherwood, with previous incumbents being summoned to the Spurs training ground for interviews and to explain results, so I wonder who Sherwood will choose this time ?

This seems to be a new one, from the FB group per chance?


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 8, 2017, 13:33:01
from the media isn't it. I read it before . will try and find link.

edit: SM for mail mentions it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4204670/Tim-Sherwood-won-just-19-games-Swindon.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4204670/Tim-Sherwood-won-just-19-games-Swindon.html)

Williams was certainly brought to the club by Sherwood, he said that himself in the biggest appointment PC.
--------
obviously Sherwood may run away now, and may not have been involved in Cooper's actual appointment...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Monday, May 8, 2017, 13:46:02
Viveash not interested according to adver twitter


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 8, 2017, 13:57:22
Viveash not interested according to adver twitter

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/698/741/4eb.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, May 8, 2017, 16:58:56
This seems to be a new one, from the FB group per chance?

FB group are posting screenshots of bookies odds - good way of keeping up to date on which idiots are throwing their money away


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, May 8, 2017, 17:53:01
Don't get this 'former player stuff'

It allows middle aged men their fantasy that the ex-players they remember from their younger days were 'one of us' all along, rather than just football pros trying to make a living like everyone else.  A stint at the club as a player during the 1980s or 1990s will have no bearing whatsoever on a candidate's suitability for the Manager's job.  None.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, May 8, 2017, 17:54:35
Steve Evans is currently favourite, god I hope it's not him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, May 8, 2017, 17:56:49
It allows middle aged men their fantasy that the ex-players they remember from their younger days were 'one of us' all along, rather than just football pros trying to make a living like everyone else.  A stint at the club as a player during the 1980s or 1990s will have no bearing whatsoever on a candidate's suitability for the Manager's job.  None.

I'm not sure that's *quite* true - it certainly buys them a bit more time and patience from the crowd, something which you'd have to think our next boss might well need. People were generally fairly sympathetic to Onoura and Jimmy Quinn in a way that they really weren't for Hart, Malpas and co.

Shouldn't be a major factor in the decision though, sure.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Monday, May 8, 2017, 18:17:55
Steve Evans is currently favourite, god I hope it's not him.


Why would he come here ?

Surely he knows everyone hates him ?

He got dog's abuse every time he cam to the CG


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ghanimah on Monday, May 8, 2017, 18:20:54
Steve Evans is currently favourite, god I hope it's not him.


Please no.  :no:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Monday, May 8, 2017, 18:21:44
Personally, I like the ex-premier-league-player type appointments.

Generally successful - Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle, DiCanio, even Wise did well briefly


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wokinghamred on Monday, May 8, 2017, 18:23:00
Steve Evans is currently favourite, god I hope it's not him.


I'm not sure, given some of his comments, that he wants the job.

Manager Steve Evans has said he wants assurances from chairman John Radford that Mansfield Town will back his desire to win promotion from League Two next season.

Evans told BBC Radio Nottingham he was "not a League Two manager".

"I need to be sure I get supported to build a promotion squad," he added.

Not sure he'd get the support he's looking for from Power even if he got the job.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Captain Beefheart on Monday, May 8, 2017, 18:23:28
I'd have Steve Evans any day of the week. Cunt he may be. But he's generally a pretty good at winning cunt.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, May 8, 2017, 18:27:06
FB group are posting screenshots of bookies odds - good way of keeping up to date on which idiots are throwing their money away

But the odds reflect the actual chance of it happening, everyone knows that  ::)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, May 8, 2017, 18:30:34
Why would he come here ?

Surely he knows everyone hates him ?

He got dog's abuse every time he cam to the CG

He'd come here to spite us, the crooked cunt


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, May 8, 2017, 18:31:37
But the odds reflect the actual chance of it happening, everyone knows that  ::)

In which case we should have had Sheena as manager at least once by now ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, May 8, 2017, 18:57:40
& Steve Lomas


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, May 8, 2017, 19:25:00
Evans would be a superb appointment and a statement of intent that we mean business in reclaiming League 1 status at the first appointment.

Sadly, him being under contract makes that a non-starter.

Cometh the hour.....

(http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/resources/images/4658288.jpg?display=1&htype=288&type=responsive-gallery)



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, May 8, 2017, 19:26:36
We can rule Hockaday out then.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 8, 2017, 19:28:51
Is Hockaday a fan of the French president  :hmmm:

His Mrs would get it mind... Emmanuel....not Hocky's that is.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Monday, May 8, 2017, 19:31:20
It looks like he's got 20 nipples :(


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 8, 2017, 19:35:50
It looks like he's got 20 nipples :(

Polythelia....


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Monday, May 8, 2017, 19:45:10
It allows middle aged men their fantasy that the ex-players they remember from their younger days were 'one of us' all along, rather than just football pros trying to make a living like everyone else.  A stint at the club as a player during the 1980s or 1990s will have no bearing whatsoever on a candidate's suitability for the Manager's job.  None.
Of course coaching ability comes first but If they played in promotion winning sides of the 1980s and 90s an ex player might know what it takes to get promoted and played under promotion winning managers. That does count for something.

On that line, interesting that NT said on Saturday losing to a Sheff Utd team with 11 changes in January 2015 when we were flying set the doubts running in that team.

 That's when the right manager gets a team to put the defeat out of their minds and move on. Simon Grayson did that twice to us with Leeds in 2010 and Preston in 2015.

Sent from my HTC One M9


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: adje on Monday, May 8, 2017, 19:51:28
I could never EVER sing "Steve evans' red n white army" no matter how successful.Absolute classless fathead


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Monday, May 8, 2017, 19:56:34
For some reason I seem to be the only one who doesn't care that he's fat, I think being a morally bankrupt, quite possibly sexist, criminal is enough. I don't want him anywhere near us, even if he guaranteed us promotion.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 8, 2017, 20:01:54
People aren't objecting to him because he's fat, as you well know. The just a convenient stick to bash the crooked cunt with.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Mother Brown on Monday, May 8, 2017, 20:07:41
John Fisher.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Monday, May 8, 2017, 20:07:48
People aren't objecting to him because he's fat, as you well know. The just a convenient stick to bash the crooked cunt with.

I do know it's not why people don't want him here, it's just odd to me that it's always brought up. There are so many other sticks !


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Mother Brown on Monday, May 8, 2017, 20:14:10
Evans would be a superb appointment and a statement of intent that we mean business in reclaiming League 1 status at the first appointment.

Sadly, him being under contract makes that a non-starter.

Cometh the hour.....

(http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/resources/images/4658288.jpg?display=1&htype=288&type=responsive-gallery)
What the frec is under that shirt?
Looks like the devil I tell thee . . balls in the boxzz.




Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Monday, May 8, 2017, 20:57:42
Is Evans still wearing his eye liner?
Which ex Town full back will be our new boss?
Hockaday, Ramsey, Phil King, Paul Bodin, David Kerslake?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, May 8, 2017, 21:12:41
Not Phil King.  The VIP matchday experience would be so much poorer for the lack of shit jokes from the 1970's


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Monday, May 8, 2017, 21:22:26
For some reason I seem to be the only one who doesn't care that he's fat, I think being a morally bankrupt, quite possibly sexist, criminal is enough. I don't want him anywhere near us, even if he guaranteed us promotion.

Ah, so you are questioning why people are calling him fat, of which there is quite considerable evidence, by calling him sexist instead, which by your use of the word probably means that even you admit that there is little evidence..

Good work :D

I don't care either way btw, just pointing it out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 8, 2017, 21:26:41
He's actually not fat any more so now there's more evidence of him being sexist than fat, because he isn't fat.

Good work  :D

Still a cunt though. A cunt that happens to be a pretty good lower league manager, but still a cunt.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, May 8, 2017, 21:30:37
He lost a lot of weight, the utter fucking cunt isn't so fat nowadays.

Judging by his comments here he is expecting a fair bit of investment in the Mansfield squad in the summer from the chairman.

He's probably better off staying there to be honest, and i'd fancy them to be up there next season.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39816162


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 8, 2017, 21:39:11
yeah he's got a better chance of promotion at Mansfield than with us, ffs. but it's true.

I just can't see Evans coming here on any level. nothing fits with Power's MO.

but it's good fun to talk.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, May 8, 2017, 21:52:04
yeah he's got a better chance of promotion at Mansfield than with us, ffs. but it's true.

I just can't see Evans coming here on any level. nothing fits with Power's MO.

but it's good fun to talk.

He worked at Leeds under Cellino, albeit very briefly


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Monday, May 8, 2017, 23:02:29
Ah, so you are questioning why people are calling him fat, of which there is quite considerable evidence, by calling him sexist instead, which by your use of the word probably means that even you admit that there is little evidence..

Good work :D

I don't care either way btw, just pointing it out.

The difference being sexism is a greater offence than being overweight..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Monday, May 8, 2017, 23:05:35
Not Phil King.  The VIP matchday experience would be so much poorer for the lack of shit jokes from the 1970's

I was with the ball sponsor for the Millwall game and I thought Kingy was brilliant, very warm, and funny in an old fashioned (but still funny) way


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 00:07:08
He worked at Leeds under Cellino, albeit very briefly

As did Hocky... as for Evans he may be a cross between Jabba the Hutt and Richard Scudamore, but if he can put out a side that vaguely looks like it might be trying to win a game, he'll do for me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: blinkpip on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 08:25:59
Evans is very good friends with Power, I know that for certain,as when we met Power at Calne training ground a few years ago. He told us he was going to Leeds a few days before it was announced and did talk about being interested for the Swindon job before (until Leeds came for him) after Cooper left.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 09:28:02
I understand why people wouldn't want him here. But as a manager I think Evans is exactly what we need next season. Been there and done it in the lower divisions, and gets players fired up.
But I'm never one to get uptight about who plays for or manages us... Ranger and Di Canio for example. Do well on the pitch and I couldn't give a monkeys what you get up to or believe in off it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 09:34:05
I think I'd suffer him if it gets us up. if he does that he'll leave for bigger things anyway.

but I still can't see it ever happening. It would take an absolute and complete change of approach from Power.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 09:39:53
As Blinkpip says, I have heard they are quite matey.
Maybe Power has realised he has more chance of selling players for good money if they're playing in a promotion chasing team than passing the ball around and sitting in mid table.
I do think we will see a change of approach next season.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 10:48:50
I understand why people wouldn't want him here. But as a manager I think Evans is exactly what we need next season. Been there and done it in the lower divisions, and gets players fired up.
But I'm never one to get uptight about who plays for or manages us... Ranger and Di Canio for example. Do well on the pitch and I couldn't give a monkeys what you get up to or believe in off it.

Does it matter if it's against the law like rape or fraud...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 10:52:01
How long before people start freaking out at the lack of news? My money goes on there being rumbles of impatient discontent before the weekend.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 10:56:22
How long before people start freaking out at the lack of news? My money goes on there being rumbles of impatient discontent before the weekend.

Surely you've just started with this post


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 10:59:45
How long before people start freaking out at the lack of news? My money goes on there being rumbles of impatient discontent before the weekend.



Has he not fucking arrived yet!!


 :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 11:00:00
Steve Evans is an odious, corrupt, scummy cunt of the highest order. Being a football fan is about more than winning to me. I'd struggle to support any team which he was in charge of.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 11:00:19
Do well on the pitch and I couldn't give a monkeys what you get up to or believe in off it.

What if it gets us deducted points & relegated. He does have previous for that.

He's quite well known around here (as he lives locally) and it's hard to find anyone that's had anything to do with him that has a good word to say about him, in fact most are scathing in their criticism.
 
Wouldn't be a surprise if he's matey with Power, he also has links around this area.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 11:10:27
Does it matter if it's against the law like rape or fraud...
I'm not planning on being mates with them, I'm going to watch them every 2 weeks for 90 minutes. I support Swindon as a club, not individual players. So no, it doesn't matter to me, I just want us to win.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 11:48:47
Evans is a cunt and unlikely to win any charm or charisma competitions. He is also a convicted tax evader. Having said that, he is very successful in the lower leagues and would, quite probably, have similar success here. We've had managers and players before who have been less than paragons of virtue; does that really matter? As long as they aren't involved in anything illegal, or if they have been in the past, they've served their sentence, I fail to see why it's a big issue. I'm not going to be inviting the cunt round for tea...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 12:02:33
I don't want him because, character issues aside, he's only ever achieved anything when he's had a massive amount of money to do so, and has been bang average (or just plain shit) when he hasnt


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 12:18:27
We've had managers and players before who have been less than paragons of virtue; does that really matter?

To some it will do. In the same way to some, Di Canio's political viewpoint was enough for them to distance themselves form the club for a period. I guess it's up to the individual and everyone has a tipping point. Mine would be Steve Evans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 13:04:58
To some it will do. In the same way to some, Di Canio's political viewpoint was enough for them to distance themselves form the club for a period. I guess it's up to the individual and everyone has a tipping point. Mine would be Steve Evans.

We tried the nice guy approach with Luke.  We desperately need someone with a bit of lower league nous, who can influence the recruitment to get more suitable players on board than a team of BOOs.

Lou Macari wasn't exactly a whiter shade of pale...when he skipped the light fandango


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 13:14:31
I don't want him because, character issues aside, he's only ever achieved anything when he's had a massive amount of money to do so, and has been bang average (or just plain shit) when he hasnt

I don't believe he has ever worked with a really big budget, ala Paolo but he does like a few quid to spend on players, but to be honest taking away his seedy reputation managers that are successful usually do get given a few quid extra, there are not many managers that are successful that are only given £1 to spend.

I'd suggest Evans is a decent lower league manager, but his reputation goes before him that rubs certain people up the wrong way.

I don't believe it will be him that gets the job anyway, I am still expecting someone who has worked as a No 2 or just a coach somewhere and Power will build him up like he did Williams as the best coach ever.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 13:25:11
Evans still has two years left on his Mansfield contract.

We've never really been a club to pay compensation to acquire new managers (Bobby Smith the last one?) and I don't envisage Lee Power opting to buck that trend.

Unless he has a walk away clause, of course.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 13:26:49
could just using us to screw more money/budget out of Mansfield..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 13:48:04
Mansfield Town confirm to @AdverSport that no approach has been made by Swindon Town for manager Steve Evans #stfc
https://t.co/RM3AnKmAXE


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 13:56:29
Steve Evans is an odious, corrupt, scummy cunt of the highest order. Being a football fan is about more than winning to me. I'd struggle to support any team which he was in charge of.
Agree on each of the three points and still would even if Williams returning was the only alternative



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 13:58:48
I don't want him because, character issues aside, he's only ever achieved anything when he's had a massive amount of money to do so, and has been bang average (or just plain shit) when he hasnt
Or when he's defrauded the money from the Inland Revenue to corruptly buy promotion, let's be fair.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 15:08:51
Mansfield Town confirm to @AdverSport that no approach has been made by Swindon Town for manager Steve Evans #stfc
https://t.co/RM3AnKmAXE
Best news I've heard since the departure of Williams.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 15:18:35
Mansfield Town confirm to @AdverSport that no approach has been made by Swindon Town for manager Steve Evans #stfc
https://t.co/RM3AnKmAXE

The Adver essentially have to contact all of the names listed by bookies in order to provide us something.

Viveash: Seemingly a case of 2+2=5
Evans: Call his employers = No approach

I wonder who they'll call when Sherwood reaches the top of the list?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 16:22:16
Mansfield Town confirm to @AdverSport that no approach has been made by Swindon Town for manager Steve Evans #stfc
https://t.co/RM3AnKmAXE

So that means he's coming then.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: newmarket red on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 18:24:35
Steve Evans is an odious, corrupt, scummy cunt of the highest order. Being a football fan is about more than winning to me. I'd struggle to support any team which he was in charge of.
spot on but with power in charge its a match made in heaven.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: StfcRusty on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 19:26:22
Steve Evans is an odious, corrupt, scummy cunt of the highest order. Being a football fan is about more than winning to me. I'd struggle to support any team which he was in charge of.

Is right


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 19:40:31
spot on but with power in charge its a match made in heaven.

Don't tell me, he's only in it for the money and to fill up his Swiss bank account.
Am I doing it right?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 20:07:22
Evans is a total cunt and it shows how far down the shitter we've gone when he actually appears a decent option. I don;t want him here but there are worse suggestions. If he won a few games and got us up then I'm sure he'd be our fat tax evading obnoxious cunt. To me he's no worse than shitbag Tim who is an obnoxious, odious bottling cunt.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 20:26:01
I'm bored with this.

Hurry up with the appointment and lets get the sense of underwhelming out of the way.

I suspect that we have a few weeks before it happens though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 20:45:30
Shaun Close applied so i hear


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 20:56:50
Shaun Close applied so i hear

From the offices of tansmedia?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 20:58:03
Tommy Mooney is said to be in the running


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 21:02:45
I thought we were putting him on a piece of string?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leftside on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 21:20:54
spot on but with power in charge its a match made in heaven.
Is it only the deposition of Power that would make you happy, or would the appointment of Mr X as manager be good enough? If the latter, who would you welcome (ideally and realistically)?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 21:29:29
I don't think anything would make him happy


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 21:55:39
Has a decision date been mentioned by the club?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 22:01:04
Has a decision date been mentioned by the club?

What do you reckon?


Everything within these pages are based rumours and boredom.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 08:09:52
All I have to say about the Steve Evans link is that if Lee Power is insistant on becoming our most hated owner ever then go ahead and appoint him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 08:22:36
All I have to say about the Steve Evans link is that if Lee Power is insistant on becoming our most hated owner ever then go ahead and appoint him.

The irony is that a majority of our fans that think Power is a crook, would be happy with Evans who actually is. :doh:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 08:38:47
The irony is that a majority of our fans that think Power is a crook, would be happy with Evans who actually is. :doh:
How true is that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 08:48:37
If he does appoint Evans and i won't actually be shocked if he does i would be one of the only ones who feel a bit sorry for Power. It would show me that he is willing to change the philosophy and actually do what the fans have asked and go for experience at last. It would just happen that the man is a cunt of tyhe highest order.

Ask yourself this though. If he was in charge the second half of this season do you think we would of gone down?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 08:51:30

Ask yourself this though. If he was in charge the second half of this season do you think we would of gone down?
No, we wouldn't have.
I also believe an Evans appointment would guarantee a top 7 finish personally.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 08:58:07
Ask yourself this though. If he was in charge the second half of this season do you think we would of gone down?

More emphatically than in the manner we actually went down.

Don't want that criminal anywhere near our club!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wokinghamred on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 09:16:54
Evans has got two more years of his contract with Mansfield to run.

Even if Power wanted him, can you see him paying compensation? I can't.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 09:30:20
Evans? No thank you

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/14858725


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 10:16:56
bored bored bored bored bored.

Amazon Echo tells me Benito Mussolini is the manager of Swindon Town when I ask it. Get your money on quick


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 10:27:33
Evans has got two more years of his contract with Mansfield to run.

Even if Power wanted him, can you see him paying compensation? I can't.

We NEVER pay compo for managers, can't see Power being the one to buck the trend.

 But I do wonder about why Evans is so high up in the odds, either people have put cash on him based on the link with Power, or he fancies the gig and has got his agent to put his name out there. The latter happens a fair bit I understand.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 10:29:23
We NEVER pay compo for managers, can't see Power being the one to buck the trend.

 But I do wonder about why Evans is so high up in the odds, either people have put cash on him based on the link with Power, or he fancies the gig and has got his agent to put his name out there. The latter happens a fair bit I understand.
One of two thingfs in my opinion

1)Power wants to make a statement and is actually serious about getting us out
2)Evans is using us to get what he wants out of Mansfield


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 10:34:43

2)Evans is using us to get what he wants out of Mansfield

This coupled with the fact that very little money has to be placed for the bookies odds to move at this level. Probably worth Evans putting £100 on it and using it to get the Mansfield chairman to back him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 10:35:42
This coupled with the fact that very little money has to be placed for the bookies odds to move at this level. Probably worth Evans putting £100 on it and using it to get the Mansfield chairman to back him.
That sounds like something our former manager who is still loved to this day would do


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 10:38:36
bored bored bored bored bored.

Amazon Echo tells me Benito Mussolini is the manager of Swindon Town when I ask it. Get your money on quick


Italian managers are all the rage atm what with Conte, about to become the 4th Italian manager to win the Prem. No Englishman has managed one.

Our Italian did OK also, so clearly the way to go.

Sadly Benito is unavailable having been hung by partisans, but Alessandra his grand-daughter is and fit to boot. Currently scuffing around in the EU Parliament in Bruxelles or Strasbourg, or wherever it's been shunted to this week.

Failing that Gianfranco Zola needs to rebuild his rep


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 12:13:14
Fabrizio Ravanellii is touting himself here there and everywhere. A slightly less mental Italian than our previous one.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 12:22:19
Fabrizio Ravanellii is touting himself here there and everywhere. A slightly less mental Italian than our previous one.

Iffy Tegg for manager, like it!

Haha, doubt anyone will get this unless they are of a Ciren base and a certain age.

Used to play football with the likeable grey haired  legend (Teggy not Fab, obviously). He used to commentate as he played, and he was often "Ravanellii" in his own head if not on the pitch. I say in his own head, as I said - he commentated as he played.

Yeah, you had to be there.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 13:00:37
Ask yourself this though. If he was in charge the second half of this season do you think we would of gone down?
I personally think we would have stayed up if Evans was appointed back in Feb or March but now we are down I would not want him here at all.

I would have been happy with him coming in short term to save us but not as a longer term manager, never.

I would also have been happy with Martin Allen when Williams was in charge, coming in short term too, but there are so many better fits than either of these 2.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 14:00:46
I personally think we would have stayed up if Evans was appointed back in Feb or March but now we are down I would not want him here at all.

I would have been happy with him coming in short term to save us but not as a longer term manager, never.

I would also have been happy with Martin Allen when Williams was in charge, coming in short term too, but there are so many better fits than either of these 2.


Why out of interest wouldn't you want him


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 14:39:33
Why out of interest wouldn't you want him
Evans? If you ignore the conviction for tax evasion and fraud and also that he is a very unlikeable person.... my main concern is that he has been the subject of a sex charge against him while at Rotherham of flashing his cock at a female steward, I personally don't want somebody like that managing our club.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 17:18:09
Alan Archibald from Partick Thistle according to the Scottish Sun

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/987729/partick-thistle-boss-alan-archibald-in-the-frame-to-become-new-swindon-town-manager/amp/



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 17:32:21
Alan Archibald from Partick Thistle according to the Scottish Sun

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/987729/partick-thistle-boss-alan-archibald-in-the-frame-to-become-new-swindon-town-manager/amp/



Makes sense, he looks to be wearing a gilet... should be enough.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 17:32:43
Alan Archibald from Partick Thistle according to the Scottish Sun

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/987729/partick-thistle-boss-alan-archibald-in-the-frame-to-become-new-swindon-town-manager/amp/



Interesting.

*awaits inevitable and pointless comparison to Maurice Malpas*


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 17:37:26
We are interested in Evans according to the adver. It's 'concrete', according to them.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 17:38:35


*awaits inevitable and pointless comparison to Maurice Malpas*

Has already happened. No prizes for guessing where.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 17:50:46
Has already happened. No prizes for guessing where.

One particular person on twitter said 'Scottish managers are crap, look at what happened with Alan Stubbs'

Alan Stubbs is from Liverpool :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 17:51:27
One particular person on twitter said 'Scottish managers are crap, look at what happened with Alan Stubbs'

Alan Stubbs is from Liverpool :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Yeah, I saw that. What a fuckwit.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 18:22:30
http://www.wearethistle.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/12331-swindon-want-archie/


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 18:22:36
ah, good old Alan McStubbs


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 19:13:20
Basket case of a club? Oi.

And who the hell is Stevie Evans?  :gay:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 19:24:03
Basket case of a club? Oi.

Trying to argue against that statement...

(https://media.tenor.co/images/2587bcbb64ced9d41cb4dd1291a37951/tenor.gif)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 19:26:46
I just don't like it when other people say it. It's a bit like telling my boyfriend I look fat in a dress and him saying "yeah." :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 19:27:14
Basket case of a club? Oi.

At least our fans are scared off by the shite football, and not the mascot.

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/5dcdde81ad3ff9b1df49d0f1fa366b4b25b57ab3/0_0_3840_5760/master/3840.jpg?w=300&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=8b7df4f78d0530e05ee746751c019049)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 19:29:27
I'd forgotten all about that... thing. They should have asked Squires.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 19:37:04
Archibald is been at Partick as a player and manager for a decade so I dare say that it would have to be a pretty worthwhile deal to get him down here.

Partick played Bath and Cirencester last summer so perhaps he could be persuaded by the wonders of the South West...?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 19:43:50
http://www.wearethistle.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/12331-swindon-want-archie/

We're a basket case club now.

Thanks Tim.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 19:44:42
Archibald is been at Partick as a player and manager for a decade so I dare say that it would have to be a pretty worthwhile deal to get him down here.

Partick played Bath and Cirencester last summer so perhaps he could be persuaded by the wonders of the South West...?

He sounds like a credible candidate....so is probably the equivalent of Bradshaw/Nichols, an unrealsitic target we hear about, who then ends up somewhere like Peterborough.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 19:47:42
Him and Troy should be a managerial dream team


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 21:36:24
Basket case we may be but still a step up for him if he came here.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 21:53:39
Basket case we may be but still a step up for him if he came here.

Not according to their board!
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I think it will take a lot more than Swindon for Archie to leave Thistle

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 07:39:05
Change in philosophy?!

FOOTBALL : @Official_STFC owner Lee Power tells @BBCWiltshire new boss will be given budget & have 100% responsibility for recruitment #stfc


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 07:42:56
significant, massive!

perhaps someone will want it after all, or they have someone that won't do academy football.

if we have a reasonable budget maybe next year isn't a write off after all.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 07:50:05
This is huge, about fucking time.
Fair play to him for coming out and saying it, swallowed his pride here.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 07:51:52
No mention of the style of play though?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 08:07:19
Change in philosophy?!

FOOTBALL : @Official_STFC owner Lee Power tells @BBCWiltshire new boss will be given budget & have 100% responsibility for recruitment #stfc

It's Sherwood then


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 08:07:58
No, I'd inferred that own players=own style but that isn't necessarily so.

But it does surely mean the end of Teflon Tactics Tim in an active role doesn't it? He was suppose to be recruiting.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 08:09:04
It's Sherwood then

Oh, yeah, that's the other explanation...nooooooooo. I don't think it will be, he's already shit himself and backtracked to protect his "rep"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 08:40:15
I don't think Sherwood has any involvement anymore.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 08:47:08
I don't think Sherwood has ever had any involvement.
This.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 08:51:26
Think Sherwood had huge involvement this season and crafted a team in his own image - a bunch of gutless fucking bottlers.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 08:59:35
Good on you Lee. I would still like to see some element of youth development and the odd punt on players from clubs in obscure leagues, though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 09:11:54
I don't think Sherwood has any involvement anymore.

He coached the team for 10 weeks and which point Williams was not much more than the guy who picked up the cones. He still had to stand on the touchline and answer to the media because Sherwood is a coward.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 09:13:37
He coached the team for 10 weeks and which point Williams was not much more than the guy who picked up the cones. He still had to stand on the touchline and answer to the media because Sherwood is a coward.
Anymore


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 09:30:56
Quote from: Flashheart
Good on you Lee. I would still like to see some element of youth development and the odd punt on players from clubs in obscure leagues, though.

yes, me too. just not total youth


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 09:33:55
Maybe Power is genuinely fucked off his club went down and his "mate" made a fucking mockery of him and the club and has told TT to do one, while realising he needs to change to sort this whole fucking mess out. Here's hoping, but as positive a message as we could have had at this stage.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 09:35:07
His contacts could be very useful to whoever comes in. There's nowt wrong with loans in principal and what manager wouldn't want access to more talent?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 09:38:11
Maybe Power is genuinely fucked off his club went down and his "mate" made a fucking mockery of him and the club and has told TT to do one, while realising he needs to change to sort this whole fucking mess out. Here's hoping, but as positive a message as we could have had at this stage.
Spot on. He has Waterford as well that he can concentrate on now as well


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 09:49:39
A couple of thoughts about Alan Archibald from their forum.

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Bit of a basket case of a club so doubt he will go

Just heard Ian McCall on Radio Scotland say he doesn't know what Archie's thoughts are but he thinks it might be a job that would interest him. I'm not sure why though if he already turned down Shrewsbury? Added to the fact that Swindon are already relegated so will be in League Two next season.

Some club will snap him up sooner or later, but you would hope that
1) it wouldn't be another Scottish club
2) it would be a better club than Swindon

I think it will take a lot more than Swindon for Archie to leave Thistle.

For Archie to leave before that it would need to be an opportunity of a life time. Not saying that definitely won't happen. Just that Swindon Town does not exactly fall in to that category.

Archie, you are better than Swindon.

they seem pretty adamant hes too good for us they seem to forget the crap standard of Scottish football.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 10:03:40
We are in the bottom tier of English football, so can understand their comments to be honest.

We have a lot of potential though, whereas he's pretty much achieved all he can there in his three or whatever seasons he's been there.

The more they belittle us though the more I want him :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 10:06:11
Just the usual football fan talk.

They probably know as much about Swindon as most of us do about Partick Thistle. They play in red and yellow...my knowledge ends there.


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 10:07:17
I hadn't realised just how tin pot Scottish football is outside the top two in terms of attendances. is this right (not full session, but about these levels?)

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/avesco.htm (http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/avesco.htm)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 10:10:35
I hadn't realised just how tin pot Scottish football is outside the top two in terms of attendances. is this right (not full session, but about these levels?)

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/avesco.htm (http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/avesco.htm)
Yep attendances have dropped off a lot in the last 10 years or so, not that it was that high anyway, our average attendance this season would have put us in the top 6 supported clubs in Scotland.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 10:28:58
I'm not offended by the sentiments of the Patrick supporters because they have a point and we'd be the same. However, they are neglecting things that we've seen it time and time again:

- Plenty of examples of footballers playing for middle/lower level Scottish Prem sides who have moved to L1/L2.

- Plenty of examples of footballers playing for middle/lower level FL sides who have moved to the Scottish Prem.

- Plenty of examples of managers of overachieving Scottish Prem sides who have moved to L1/L2 sides.

All with varying success.

Aberdeen, the second best side in Scotland, is full of players who L1/L2 experience (Joe Lewis, Shay Logan, Niall McGinn, Ash Taylor, Adam Rooney, Jonny Hayes, Anthony O'Connor, Jayden Stockley, Miles Storey...) - again, all with varying success.

My main point is that Archibald/Partick Thistle to Swindon Town isn't as unrealistic as they may think.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 10:41:22
I think it is a possible appointment in all honesty, Robbie Neilson left Hearts for MKD a few months back with Hearts much higher in the table than Thistle, 4th in the Prem at the time IIRC.

Even in L2 we will probably have a higher budget than a mid table Scots Prem team averaging just over half our average attendance.

If he comes and does well he will be in the spotlight more in England than in Scotland improving his profile....look at Di Canio, the press were all over him like a rash when he did well with us.

He could also be another version of Maurice Malpas...the comparisons are inevitable thats natural.

There are of course many minus points for us as well as him but I think the plus points would be more for him than the minus points.....also we have much better weather ;)



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 10:47:10
Does the chippy opposite the fire station do deep fried creme eggs at Easter? That could be a crucial deciding factor


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 10:56:57
We are a step up from Partick Thistle because, as someone else said, history suggests we're at the bottom of our curve, and they're right at the top of theirs. Also, we'll pay way more.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 11:23:04
Yep attendances have dropped off a lot in the last 10 years or so, not that it was that high anyway, our average attendance this season would have put us in the top 6 supported clubs in Scotland.
We should apply to join the SPL as McSwindon. We could have derby games in Europe against Waterford.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 11:25:34
We are a step up from Partick Thistle because, as someone else said, history suggests we're at the bottom of our curve, and they're right at the top of theirs. Also, we'll pay way more.

I'm not wholly convinced we are at the bottom of our curve. 

There's an argument to be had about whether the mid 1950's... where back to back applications for re-election were played out against a decline in the Works, and a very slow recovery in the town's infrastructure from post war austerity, would have kept league status with the present pyramid set up.

I would suggest that there are similarities, namely the town's infrastructure is struggling to adjust to post 08 crash Tory austerity, and the overall sense of civic decline due to a low wage economy means the FC feels the pinch like in the 50's.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 11:27:58
I'm not wholly convinced we are at the bottom of our curve. 

There's an argument to be had about whether the mid 1950's... where back to back applications for re-election were played out against a decline in the Works, and a very slow recovery in the town's infrastructure from post war austerity, would have kept league status with the present pyramid set up.

I would suggest that there are similarities, namely the town's infrastructure is struggling to adjust to post 08 crash Tory austerity, and the overall sense of civic decline due to a low wage economy means the FC feels the pinch like in the 50's.

Recent, relevant history would suggest we are. Can we plummet... of course, but evidence suggests we should sustain and recover so long as the ownership doesn't go completely south (and I'm talking Orient, Coventry levels of no ground, players not being paid etc, not just some of our fans have a whinge).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 11:42:09
Recent, relevant history would suggest we are. Can we plummet... of course, but evidence suggests we should sustain and recover so long as the ownership doesn't go completely south (and I'm talking Orient, Coventry levels of no ground, players not being paid etc, not just some of our fans have a whinge).

You make fair points, there should be other places in Div 4, more socially and economically disadvantaged than Swindon....but then again there were in Div 3 and that made no difference.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 11:47:40
Change in philosophy?!

FOOTBALL : @Official_STFC owner Lee Power tells @BBCWiltshire new boss will be given budget & have 100% responsibility for recruitment #stfc

I still think having a young squad is the right strategy, you just need to mix it up with 3-4 seasoned pro's/wise heads.

The squad PDC built in our promotion season was still quite young/raw.

Caddis, Foderingham, Flint, Ferry, Ritchie, De Vita, J.Smith were all regulars and all were in the 24 & under bracket (I think)  but we mixed it up with a bit of experience in Alan Mac, Benson & Connell.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 11:48:49
We should apply to join the SPL as McSwindon. We could have derby games in Europe against Waterford.

Er...  Red Bull Leipzig, are going to have a legal punch up with UEFA, because Red Bull Salzburg in Austria have already sealed a Euro spot.  UEFA's rules are that clubs from different countries with the same owners can't compete in their comps.

Typical fucking Power, when he gets us to Europe... no doubt Waterford will get the slot.  Or maybe he's no intention of getting us there  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 12:12:24
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39882884

most important bit: They hope to make an appointment within the next eight days.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 12:13:59
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39882884

most important bit: They hope to make an appointment within the next eight days.

No Gareth, the most important bit is new man/woman will have control of recruitment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RJack on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 12:44:32
Whether the new manager gets full control of recruitment or not. If Power and Sherwood continue to dictate match day squad / tactics and style of play then giving the manager control of recruitment is pointless imo.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ReadingRed on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 12:51:57
We should apply to join the SPL as McSwindon. We could have derby games in Europe against Waterford.
All this talk of Scottish managers has me thinking that Pat Fenlon wouldn't be a bad outside bet. Turned things around at Hibs and twice got them to the Scottish Cup Final. Could work well given an assistant with experience of English lower leagues. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Fenlon


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 12:55:01
All this talk of Scottish managers has me thinking that Pat Fenlon wouldn't be a bad outside bet. Turned things around at Hibs and twice got them to the Scottish Cup Final. Could work well given an assistant with experience of English lower leagues. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Fenlon
Just add a bit about Williams going the other way to be head coach at Waterford and you have a nice little Power cheap-option conspiracy story too! :-)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sir Cliff Pipehard on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 13:29:36



Typical fucking Power, when he gets us to Europe... no doubt Waterford will get the slot.  Or maybe he's no intention of getting us there  :hmmm:

  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 13:30:47
The fact Power has advised that the policy will change, would suggest he's already spoken to his chosen man.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 13:35:40
The fact Power has advised that the policy will change, would suggest he's already spoken to his chosen man.

Those were my thoughts. I reckon it's Evans. I can feel it in my water.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 13:36:59
The fact Power has advised that the policy will change, would suggest he's already spoken to his chosen man.

I suspect it is to get it out there to get a few more agents touting their clients interest in the job as the ones that have applied are of no interest

But it does make you wonder if he would trust the recruitment to an unknown rather than an experienced manager

And of course it depends what type of budget is to be given


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 13:44:37
I suspect it is to get it out there to get a few more agents touting their clients interest in the job as the ones that have applied are of no interest

But it does make you wonder if he would trust the recruitment to an unknown rather than an experienced manager

And of course it depends what type of budget is to be given

I did think that but as you said, would you trust another Williams mould 2 with purchasing players?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 13:45:00
The fact Power has advised that the policy will change, would suggest he's already spoken to his chosen man.
Or even offered him the job.........


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 13:55:12
Those were my thoughts. I reckon it's Evans. I can feel it in my water.
The last time we bought a manager out of his contract was Bob Smith in 1978/79. I'm sure Reg will correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty confident given reduced budgets etc we won't be going for someone tied to an existing contract. They could walk out of a contract though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 14:00:29
I'm hoping it's Cotterill still but any serious manager would be an upgrade on Williams who we all know was a coach and not a manager.

It's quite exciting to me that we could actually have a manager who's able to build his own squad rather than hoping we somehow come up with a decent squad of Power's hopeful punts.

When we've gone down to League 2 recently we've tended to come back stronger and I think Power's statement today has made that a realistic aim again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 14:28:33
The fact Power has advised that the policy will change, would suggest he's already spoken to his chosen man.

I've heard that he has already interviewed at least two candidates for the job, and no I don't know who


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 15:30:30
I can only be one man....Paolo, it's Paolo


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 15:37:02
I think you should just be yourself Matchworn.


Title: Re:
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 15:42:00
Archibald says we haven't approached him ... yet.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 16:05:51
Those were my thoughts. I reckon it's Evans. I can feel it in my water.

Evan is very thick skinned and he would need to be if he is to be appointed. He knows full well he is despised by the town fans from his comments towards us when PDC was at the helm. I'm not saying you're wrong but I would be very surprised if he would come here.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 16:56:35
Evan is very thick skinned and he would need to be if he is to be appointed. He knows full well he is despised by the town fans from his comments towards us when PDC was at the helm. I'm not saying you're wrong but I would be very surprised if he would come here.

Probably been said already, but I believe we received a fine because of his complaint as well.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 16:59:59
Evan is very thick skinned and he would need to be if he is to be appointed. He knows full well he is despised by the town fans from his comments towards us when PDC was at the helm. I'm not saying you're wrong but I would be very surprised if he would come here.

I would say we are a bigger club than Mansfield and maybe have more potential (from the outside) so I could see him coming here but it would depend on budget etc, I think he has a think enough skin to not care what has happened previously, I'm not sure Power would want to pay compensation when there are so many out of work managers though


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 17:49:35
Ironically, the top 3 in the betting market are all employed (Evans, Archibald & Ramsey), so compensation would be required.
I think Power knows this season he's going to need to put in money, to make money. I also can't imagine the fees being huge to get the names mentioned.
I still think it'll be Evans, and strangely optimistic for next season if it is. I'd certainly prefer him to Archibald and Ramsey.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: steveg on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 18:55:26
I'm hoping it's Cotterill still but any serious manager would be an upgrade on Williams who we all know was a coach and not a manager.

It's quite exciting to me that we could actually have a manager who's able to build his own squad rather than hoping we somehow come up with a decent squad of Power's hopeful punts.

When we've gone down to League 2 recently we've tended to come back stronger and I think Power's statement today has made that a realistic aim again.


I have more than a sneaky feeling that Cotterill despises Swindon!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 19:00:49

I have more than a sneaky feeling that Cotterill despises Swindon!

Steve Cotterill despises everyone and everything.

It must be close to 20 years since Cotterill first missed out of becoming Town manager. Not sure there were any others but he was definitely close prior to Jimmy Quinn's appointment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, May 12, 2017, 13:26:12
Rumour has it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermot_Drummy


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Friday, May 12, 2017, 13:39:50
Rumour has it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermot_Drummy


Ex Chelsea youth coach - failed at Crawley, I know not every manager succeeds in their first job but it would have the stigma of Chelsea youth coach all over it, which why apparently crawley appointed him

You would hope as Power is gonig to trust someone with recruitment and budgets etc and knowing how crucial this next appointment is, for the first time in his tenure he will go for someone who has a bit more of a managerial record.

For me someone like JFH, played at the top level worked under some good managers, garnered his reputation at a small club, Burton, didn't do so well at QPR but equally was not really poor would have learnt some lessons got more experienced, and would hope to put them right in his next appointment to prove he is not a 1 hit wonder.


Others for me would be Keith Hill who is a master at the lower league and an old head or Paul Tisdale if he could be convinced to leave Exeter not sure either would command a huge settlement fee to their clubs.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 12, 2017, 14:14:11
Rumour has it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermot_Drummy


Oh dear god.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sippo on Friday, May 12, 2017, 14:17:52
http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=56978.0


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 12, 2017, 14:29:20
Mark Allen, academy director at Man City....apparently he wants to have a go at managing.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 12, 2017, 14:36:56
I fancy a dabble, what time should I expect a call?


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, May 12, 2017, 14:38:16
Rumour has it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermot_Drummy
Yikes! I'd rather have kept Williams.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 12, 2017, 14:48:20
Having a browse through the Crawley forum, a lot of them seem very confident that JFH will be their new manager :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 12, 2017, 14:57:33
Rumour has it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermot_Drummy

Rumour from where? Not even so much as mention on Twitter lately?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 12, 2017, 14:59:24
Rumour from where? Not even so much as mention on Twitter lately?
Other rumour sauces are available


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 12, 2017, 15:06:05
Other rumour sauces are available
All rumours filter on to there and facebook pretty sharpish though....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sippo on Friday, May 12, 2017, 15:07:41
Other rumour sauces are available

Like the stratford-upon-avon (Worcestershire) sauce...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 12, 2017, 15:12:58
Been away on holiday and cannot be arsed to read back, the only thing I heard on the BBC was Particks manager??

Can someone provide a short summary of where we are (or I suspect are not?)

ta


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 12, 2017, 15:14:07
Been away on holiday and cannot be arsed to read back, the only thing I heard on the BBC was Particks manager??

Can someone provide a short summary of where we are (or I suspect are not?)

ta

Williams gone.

Power on the hunt for a new manager

Archibald, (Partick) Evans (Mansfield), Dermot Drummy (see other thread) the main candidates rumoured. Apparently we should know in 7 days.


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, May 12, 2017, 15:14:13
Been away on holiday and cannot be arsed to read back, the only thing I heard on the BBC was Particks manager??

Can someone provide a short summary of where we are (or I suspect are not?)

ta
We hope to appoint someone in 8 days or so and he will have full control over transfers. That's about it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 12, 2017, 15:21:40
Williams gone.

Power on the hunt for a new manager

Archibald, (Partick) Evans (Mansfield), Dermot Drummy (see other thread) the main candidates rumoured. Apparently we should know in 7 days.

Is that Evans as in Evans..... *shudder*


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 12, 2017, 15:28:07
yes


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, May 12, 2017, 15:46:11
is there a list of odds you gamblers can put on here?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, May 12, 2017, 15:50:34
Alan Archibald
7/4
Steve Evans
9/4
Adrian Viveash
6/1
Chris Ramsey
6/1
Dermot Drummy
14/1
Brian McDermott
16/1
Ian Baraclough
16/1
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
16/1
Nigel Adkins
18/1
Tim Sherwood
18/1
Gary Hill
20/1
Kenny Jackett
20/1
David Flitcroft
22/1
Dougie Freedman
22/1
Steve Cotterill
22/1
Paolo Di Canio
25/1
Alan Stubbs
28/1
Alex McLeish
28/1
Owen Coyle
28/1
Paul Ince
33/1
Steven Pressley
33/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, May 12, 2017, 16:03:17
Alan Archibald
7/4
Steve Evans
9/4
Adrian Viveash
6/1
Chris Ramsey
6/1
Dermot Drummy
14/1
Brian McDermott
16/1
Ian Baraclough
16/1
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
16/1
Nigel Adkins
18/1
Tim Sherwood
18/1
Gary Hill
20/1
Kenny Jackett
20/1
David Flitcroft
22/1
Dougie Freedman
22/1
Steve Cotterill
22/1
Paolo Di Canio
25/1
Alan Stubbs
28/1
Alex McLeish
28/1
Owen Coyle
28/1
Paul Ince
33/1
Steven Pressley
33/1

Top man!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Friday, May 12, 2017, 16:22:02
Alan Archibald
7/4
Steve Evans
9/4
Adrian Viveash
6/1
Chris Ramsey
6/1
Dermot Drummy
14/1
Brian McDermott
16/1
Ian Baraclough
16/1
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
16/1
Nigel Adkins
18/1
Tim Sherwood
18/1
Gary Hill
20/1
Kenny Jackett
20/1
David Flitcroft
22/1
Dougie Freedman
22/1
Steve Cotterill
22/1
Paolo Di Canio
25/1
Alan Stubbs
28/1
Alex McLeish
28/1
Owen Coyle
28/1
Paul Ince
33/1
Steven Pressley
33/1

Would the bookies allow us to put money on AN Other


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, May 12, 2017, 16:26:56
Alan Archibald
7/4
Steve Evans
9/4
Adrian Viveash
6/1
Chris Ramsey
6/1
Dermot Drummy
14/1
Brian McDermott
16/1
Ian Baraclough
16/1
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
16/1
Nigel Adkins
18/1
Tim Sherwood
18/1
Gary Hill
20/1
Kenny Jackett
20/1
David Flitcroft
22/1
Dougie Freedman
22/1
Steve Cotterill
22/1
Paolo Di Canio
25/1
Alan Stubbs
28/1
Alex McLeish
28/1
Owen Coyle
28/1
Paul Ince
33/1
Steven Pressley
33/1
There is some decent names on there - whoever gets the job will make certain sections unhappy - especially the Power haters.  Can see it now "Well if he has no more ambition than to appoint ****************** then he won't get any more of my money"!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, May 12, 2017, 16:44:08
Dermot Drummy is a shit name.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, May 12, 2017, 16:55:40
Confirmation of Embleton and Mike Cooper (fitness coach) now leaving too.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, May 12, 2017, 17:03:00
We had a fitness coach?

What the fuck did he do last season then?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 12, 2017, 17:03:14
Confirmation of Embleton and Mike Cooper (fitness coach) now leaving too.

We had a fitness coach ??


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 12, 2017, 17:43:12
We had a fitness coach?

What the fuck did he do last season then?
Suspect that might be why he's leaving ....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Friday, May 12, 2017, 17:51:59
According to the Beeb he was a sports scientist

Also says we should expect an appointment by the 19th


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, May 12, 2017, 17:56:32
Fair chance of statement Friday returning then. :beers:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Friday, May 12, 2017, 18:03:54
Brian McDermott would be a good appointment


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Friday, May 12, 2017, 18:05:37
Brian McDermott would be a good appointment

Ex Pox and Reading and people still like him, quite impressive


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, May 12, 2017, 18:48:44
Yeah Gary what the fuck are you on? Keep town a scum free zone. The reading bit is totally irrelevant


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Friday, May 12, 2017, 18:51:02
Yeah Gary what the fuck are you on? Keep town a scum free zone. The reading bit is totally irrelevant
:) got to be better than fatty Evans mate :suicide:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 12, 2017, 20:01:22
I hope it isn't Drummy. I'd rather somebody that is untried than somebody that has tried and failed.

Having said that though, I'd still give him every chance and wish him luck. Past records can be deceiving.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, May 12, 2017, 20:09:32
We had a fitness coach ??

He pulled up with a stitch clearing his desk!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Friday, May 12, 2017, 21:12:22
With confirmation of Embleton and M. Cooper leaving, although blindingly obvious, this must mean that whoever is appointed will be bringing in his own No.2 and other coaches etc. So i'm pinning my guess on an experienced manager or well known ex-player.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, May 12, 2017, 22:02:18
 :cry:
:) got to be better than fatty Evans mate :suicide:
ANYONE would be better than Fatty Evans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 12, 2017, 22:15:28
:cry:ANYONE would be better than Fatty Evans.

Quoted

 ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 00:23:14

Paolo Di Canio
25/1


I wonder if the great man is lying awake, unable to sleep and feeling drawn by the ley lines of Wiltshire and the mystical power of the Avebury stones.

C'mon Lee it's a buyer's market as far as PDC is concerned.
You know what you have to do.

This post is sponsored by Smirnoff Vodka.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 07:41:14
If it's Evans I will be displeased. Part of me would chuffing love to have Paolo back again, albeit with a little more restricted budget. It's not going to happen though. He's the mad ex girlfriend of swindon Town and perhaps it's best he remains that.

What's Hoddle up to? He has a history of being able to help ruined young players so our current lot would be perfect for him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 07:49:40
Of the names in the top 5 of the betting market, Evans is the one I want.
Been there and done it in league 2, it's what we need.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 10:20:43
Please not Evans, and preferably not somebody like Drummy - an ex academy manager who has had one shot at management and failed, that is all.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 11:24:58
Not Evans thank you, he is a disgusting specimen


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 11:36:03
Not Evans thank you, he is a disgusting specimen

I seem to remember a lot of people being angry with the reaction of the Di Canio appointment.

I would be more than happy with Evans, after seeing us being so nice to play against, I'd quite like us to turn into a street-smart team for a couple years, would definitely increase our chances of getting out of League 2.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bathford on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 11:58:33
It's a case of horses for courses. It takes a certain kind of personality to manage a team out of the lower divisions. That kind of person may not have have what it takes for the top two divisions.  Evans has proven experience in the lower two, no-one is asking him to become our all time favourite 'Mr Nice Guy'.  Just get the job done!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Abrahammer on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 12:03:52
I don't need to like the fella, no interest in being mates with a manager.

The fact is he has a proven track record in the lower leagues, that's all that matters to me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bathford on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 12:19:29
I don't need to like the fella, no interest in being mates with a manager.

The fact is he has a proven track record in the lower leagues, that's all that matters to me.

Totally agree.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 12:34:11
Totally agree.
only if we can sing "fatty Evans red & white army" :please:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 12:41:41
Evans is signing players and seems to have been given what he wants at Mansfield, is he really a realistic option now?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 12:59:19
Evans is signing players and seems to have been given what he wants at Mansfield, is he really a realistic option now?
I see he signed Zander Diamond yesterday and it did make me wonder if he won't be moving now. He will be on a fairly good wage for L2 I would imagine, looks like the chairman is giving him funds to tempt him to stay.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 13:11:05
certainly doesn't look like he's moving does it. half of me is relieved,  half worried will end up with Drummy


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 13:42:38
I think my semi-realistic preference is Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink.

Yesterday's news would make room for his usual staff of David Oldfield (assistant) and Chris Barnes (strength and conditioning) to link up while Dean Thornton, who would have been at QPR at the same time will stay (I doubt Gavin Ward will want to leave QPR for Swindon).

Hasselbaink needs a way back in to management after he was part of that sting earlier in the season.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 14:13:16
Loved Hasselbaink as a player. Would be in favour.

Would also welcome any of Jackett, Adkins, Cotterill...

Think we'll still end up with someone relatively inexperienced like Drummy or Ramsey.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:13:00
Think we'll still end up with someone relatively inexperienced like Drummy or Ramsey.

If he sticks to his word that the new manager will be bringing all players in and control everything then it wouldn't make sense to get an inexperienced manager in, so I am in the mindset that he knows he has to do it properly and will get someone in with some form of experience, my personal favourite is JFH but Archibald seems to be bookies favourite and he has done well at Partrick so can see it being him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:15:56
I think my semi-realistic preference is Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink.

Yesterday's news would make room for his usual staff of David Oldfield (assistant) and Chris Barnes (strength and conditioning) to link up while Dean Thornton, who would have been at QPR at the same time will stay (I doubt Gavin Ward will want to leave QPR for Swindon).

Hasselbaink needs a way back in to management after he was part of that sting earlier in the season.


Thornton is still here and not going anywhere he said on twitter. I think JFH could be right


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:24:06
Would be very pleased with Hasselbaink relative to the other options.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:26:47
Thornton is still here and not going anywhere he said on twitter. I think JFH could be right

I noticed that too, JFH does seem to be the logical choice but the questions I wonder are, would he want to drop back down to L2 after managing in the champs and why are his odds so low on bookies when he is basically unemployed and works with friends of Power (Ferdinand etc) at QPR? I would love it to be JFH but realistically think it will be AA just because I can see JFH biding his time for another champs team to look for a manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bilko on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:28:38
Archibald had been interviewed and not being considered for the job I've been told by a very good source


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:33:43
Archibald had been interviewed and not being considered for the job I've been told by a very good source

That's a shame, which leaves me with my first choice of JFH but as per above I am not sure he would go for it.

I am loving this merry go round though of who is the next manager, brings a little excitement during a boring 6 weeks before the transfer window opens  :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:34:04
Who else been interviewed? Any idea?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:36:08
If he sticks to his word that the new manager will be bringing all players in and control everything then it wouldn't make sense to get an inexperienced manager in, so I am in the mindset that he knows he has to do it properly and will get someone in with some form of experience, my personal favourite is JFH but Archibald seems to be bookies favourite and he has done well at Partrick so can see it being him.

True. As long as we don't go for the young manager and 'director of football' approach. Something I'm massively against.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:38:01
True. As long as we don't go for the young manager and 'director of football' approach. Something I'm massively against.

Sherwood has basically said he isn't involved anymore and wasn't a job to him, more of helping out a friend so I would guess that the DoF approach has been dropped hence why he has gone public and said the manager (whoever it will be) will have full control over all transfers.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:47:59
I would guess that Power has the new manager lined up and it's just a case of sorting punt the paperwork. Given the fact that Embleton and the fatness coach were relieved of their duties would indicate new manager wants his own staff in.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:49:13
Sherwood has basically said he isn't involved anymore and wasn't a job to him, more of helping out a friend so I would guess that the DoF approach has been dropped hence why he has gone public and said the manager (whoever it will be) will have full control over all transfers.
You're improving my optimism  :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 15:51:27
You're improving my optimism  :D

The optimism is what hurts a fan when it goes tits up but I am optimistic that next season could be very interesting, not PDC interesting but definitely interesting


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 16:16:38
JFH on holiday until the 18th ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 16:20:27
Archibald had been interviewed and not being considered for the job I've been told by a very good source
I thought I asked you to keep that quiet  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 17:01:10
I can't help but thinking that 'within 8 days' is a very specific number. Why 8 days?

Then I think of Tans' comment about JFH being on holiday until the day before, and then remind myself that it's coming from Tans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 17:01:56
Ah, it was BS then..  Next


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 17:17:11
I can't help but thinking that 'within 8 days' is a very specific number. Why 8 days?

Then I think of Tans' comment about JFH being on holiday until the day before, and then remind myself that it's coming from Tans.

:D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: 1989Monkey on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 19:14:48
I think the 8 days was just so we can have another statement Friday!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 19:18:53
I think the 8 days was just so we can have another statement Friday!

That would be two consecutive statements made on a Friday.

This is progress.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: 1989Monkey on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 19:21:28
That would be two consecutive statements made on a Friday.

This is progress.

3 won't it?
Williams going a couple of weeks back and then yesterday finally announcing the others leaving. Could it be 3 on a trot?!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 19:22:33
You could be right.

This is big.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 13, 2017, 19:45:16
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoKr6JOyejCyJAA/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: cdakev on Sunday, May 14, 2017, 09:50:48
Alan Pardew's name being mentioned on Twitter. Cant see this happening. Premiership to league 2, not happening but would be better than some of the names being mentioned.

JFH would be my choice.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Sunday, May 14, 2017, 10:20:29
I mentioned Pardew on twitter.

My source was a very similar one to the one Tansmedia uses.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 14, 2017, 10:27:36
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/Tw4NRHMjhIZSE/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, May 14, 2017, 10:29:45
I'd love JFH, would be similar to the last 2 times we've been relegated and appointment a 'name'. Unfortunately I just can't see it.
I still think it will be Evans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Abrahammer on Sunday, May 14, 2017, 10:32:22
Pardew, brilliant.

I'd like to shake hands with the person who suggested him


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ginginho on Sunday, May 14, 2017, 11:55:55
Pardew when he heard he'd been linked with us

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7qDMlVquZI1axqQ8/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 14, 2017, 12:03:21
Pardew when he heard he'd been linked with us

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7qDMlVquZI1axqQ8/giphy.gif)
Hmmm more like....

(https://media4.giphy.com/media/DcslLAX9Nbx0A/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, May 14, 2017, 12:32:20
I think I hate Pardew more than Evans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, May 14, 2017, 18:38:34
I think I hate Pardew more than Evans.
Now come along ..........   Don't be Silly ........


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, May 15, 2017, 10:25:44
I chucked some cash on JFH when I saw he was 18-1, so that's almost certainly jinxed it. It won't be him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 15, 2017, 10:34:30
I think I hate Pardew more than Evans.

I think I agree with you, both are wankers, but Pardew just has the edge by being a smug wanker!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, May 15, 2017, 11:02:42
I chucked some cash on JFH when I saw he was 18-1, so that's almost certainly jinxed it. It won't be him.
Me Too............  Definately no chance then !!!.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 11:07:51
Me Too............  Definately no chance then !!!.

He is the most realistic choice out of the bookies options if it's true that AA hasn't been selected / turned down the role. I would love to have JFH but we only have 5 days to wait as supposedly the new manager will be unveiled on Friday.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 15, 2017, 11:28:10
He is the most realistic choice out of the bookies options if it's true that AA hasn't been selected / turned down the role. I would love to have JFH but we only have 5 days to wait as supposedly the new manager will be unveiled on Friday.

If AA is so clearly out of the race why do so many bookies still have him down as favourite?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 11:40:09
If AA is so clearly out of the race why do so many bookies still have him down as favourite?

Because people keep pumping money on him, that's the way bookies work, they pump for the person who has the most money, Viveash was favourite, as soon as AA's name came forward his odds dropped.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, May 15, 2017, 11:42:15
Because people keep pumping money on him, that's the way bookies work, they pump for the person who has the most money, Viveash was favourite, as soon as AA's name came forward his odds dropped.
No it doesn't. Bookies stopped working like that a long time ago


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, May 15, 2017, 11:57:39
Because people keep pumping money on him, that's the way bookies work, they pump for the person who has the most money, Viveash was favourite, as soon as AA's name came forward his odds dropped.
Andronikou's in the running for manager? Fuuuuuuucccckkkkkkkkkkkkk!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, May 15, 2017, 13:30:27
Andronikou's in the running for manager? Fuuuuuuucccckkkkkkkkkkkkk!

Now there's a name I haven't heard in a while....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 13:45:10
There is a video on the FB page, from Sky sports with reports that Swindon have approached Mansfield about talking to Evans ....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 15, 2017, 13:54:07
There is a video on the FB page, from Sky sports with reports that Swindon have approached Mansfield about talking to Evans ....

Just saw this. Very torn about this one... On the one hand he might well be the right person to get us out of the pit we find ourselves in. On the other hand, he's Steve Evans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 14:01:40
Just saw this. Very torn about this one... On the one hand he might well be the right person to get us out of the pit we find ourselves in. On the other hand, he's Steve Evans.

It can't be any worse than the fuore that happened when PDC came in, calling the club fascists etc


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 14:11:37
There is a video on the FB page, from Sky sports with reports that Swindon have approached Mansfield about talking to Evans ....

Interesting. Any idea how old it is?

I figured he'd decided against it following his "chat" with the chairman and subsequent signing of players...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 14:13:38
Interesting. Any idea how old it is?

I figured he'd decided against it following his "chat" with the chairman and subsequent signing of players...

It was only on SSN within the last 30 minutes so will be pretty recent news for them to talk about


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, May 15, 2017, 14:14:33
Does anyone have a link to it?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 15, 2017, 14:16:06
Just saw this. Very torn about this one... On the one hand he might well be the right person to get us out of the pit we find ourselves in. On the other hand, he's Steve Evans.

I bet the buffet suppliers of Swindon are rejoicing at the thought?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 14:17:19
It was only on SSN within the last 30 minutes so will be pretty recent news for them to talk about

Thanks...Interesting..

Doubt we'd make an approach without a nod from Evans that he wants to talk..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 14:19:12
I bet the buffet suppliers of Swindon are rejoicing at the thought?

(http://img.clipd.com/slides/4/1/8/8/5/7/4188575874/a43a2932ffbd20d981233aff4259c221d1b75ff7.jpeg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 14:23:57
Does anyone have a link to it?

https://www.facebook.com/simon.fennell.18/videos/1359713000788763/


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 14:33:53
http://www.stagsnet.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31580&sid=da47c31f8cb99472c4f1b9658007ce54

Interesting views from Mansfield.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:04:26
http://www.stagsnet.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31580&sid=da47c31f8cb99472c4f1b9658007ce54

Interesting views from Mansfield.

Interesting in that they want him to stay so strongly... or

Interesting in that they think it would appease our fans by approach Evans??


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:11:33
http://www.stagsnet.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31580&sid=da47c31f8cb99472c4f1b9658007ce54

Interesting views from Mansfield.

On one hand, I can’t believe Power, of all people, is going to be the one to break our near 40 year record of not poaching managers employed by others.

On the other, I also can’t believe an official approach would be made if both us and Evans hadn’t informally spoken and mutually indicated interest.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:12:11
Adver have got hold of it now :-

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/15286909.Town_make_approach_for_Evans/

More than happy with this, I know a lot aren't keen on him but from a football point of view I think he's exactly what we need.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:13:50
FWIW I cannot say I would be happy, satisfied as a step in the right direction maybe....

Power and Evans - that really isn't going to work is it?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:14:41
Steve Evans signed Power for Boston, which I didn't know.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:15:07
You would image the way Power works he has been given a nod and a wink, not sure he would approach someone like Evans without being confident he can get his man, may hinge on the type of budget and wages though we can offer compared to what mansfield are prepared to throw at him.

Surprises me that Power is prepared to pay compensation though, must be confident of selling Vigs.

Are we a better proposition than Mansfield ?



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:17:51
We are a better proposition than Mansfield if he has the budget and control as our crowds and what not are far superior. However if we are operated like we were last season then we are no proposition at all, all depends on budget and level of control.


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:19:27
still can't see it, and my i not so inner pessimist thinks we'll get told to do one then appoint Drummey!

a very different approach money wise...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:19:48
You would image the way Power works he has been given a nod and a wink, not sure he would approach someone like Evans without being confident he can get his man, may hinge on the type of budget and wages though we can offer compared to what mansfield are prepared to throw at him.

Surprises me that Power is prepared to pay compensation though, must be confident of selling Vigs.

Are we a better proposition than Mansfield ?



We are a bigger club historically (although not much in it) with a bit of potential in the right hands.

Mansfield seem to be trying to flex some financial muscle publically, though. So he'd probably get a bigger budget at Mansfield but playing in front of smaller crowds (well, could be bigger if they are winning and we continue to be shit). Obviously the behind the scenes being a bit of a mess doesn't bother Evans, or else he wouldn't have touched Leeds with a barge pole.

Success here and we'll be pushing 10-15K crowds.

He's got a comfortable gig where he is now as the Mansfield fans and board have clearly bought into the ridiculous notion that he's too big for them, so he can do no wrong. He won't have that here.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:23:06
Quote
Sky Sports also reported today that the County Ground club have approached the Stags about speaking to Evans, but have not yet been allowed to do so by Mansfield chairman John Radford.

As if they've not already spoken to each other. 

I expect Evans has already agreed on the job in principal, now we just need to do it officially.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:29:23
Mansfield have refused permission.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:30:12
Mansfield have refused permission.

For the time being, until Evans says I want to talk to them


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:30:30
Quote
Mansfield have refused permission.
Wonder if Power will stump up more cash or move on...

edit: I'm a feckin' eejut. refused to talk, not even at compo after yet.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:32:23
They'll have to let him go if he kicks off, depends on how much he wants it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:32:51
If we're willing to shell out for a manager I'd still prefer we went for someone like Jackett....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:34:56
yeah, guess the ball is in Evans court now.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:35:32
Mansfield have refused permission.

Gives Evans the perfect chance to resign if he is interested in coming here. Would also mean we wouldn't have to pay any compensation.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:40:36
Sky reporting Mansfield have refused Swindon permission to talk to Evans.


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:40:53
it's officially official (the refusal)

https://t.co/FN7h0GmJRH (https://t.co/FN7h0GmJRH)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:41:23
I bet some of our little cherubs will be shitting themselves at the prospect of him being manager after having such a cushy time of it with "best friend" Luke.

Wonder how long it'll be before they're doing this (assuming he does become the new manager):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuyPVOxwyQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuyPVOxwyQ)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:42:59
it's officially official (the refusal)

https://t.co/FN7h0GmJRH (https://t.co/FN7h0GmJRH)
As good as done then....just a matter of how much compensation.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:43:32
On a side note I wonder where we will train next season as can't imagine a competent manager letting us almost exclusively train on a 3G.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:44:29
it's officially official (the refusal)

https://t.co/FN7h0GmJRH (https://t.co/FN7h0GmJRH)

And not even on a Friday fucking tin pot, no wonder Evans wants to come here - if he does.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:49:25
Well if we have approached Mansfield then it would appear that those that are "ahem" in the know who said we have appointed Archibald or JFH already are apparently wide of the mark then.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:52:06
Even worse, Chang will be right!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:57:05
Even worse, Chang will be right!
Don't worry he previously said Williams was staying so has already had his 'Chang moment'


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 16:02:07
adver think Evans has two years left on his contract.

so may not be as simple as resigning without consequences for Evans (buying out contact,). it's good to speculate..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, May 15, 2017, 16:18:49
interesting comments from him when he took the mansfield job


When asked if he came close to taking the City Ground job before it went to Frenchman Montanier, Evans said "yes."

"My representatives told me that."

He continued: "The way modern day football works is and supporters probably think it was unusual for me to get a direct call from John Radford, normally your representatives are talking to people and you go forward and they tell you that the business side of it is done and you go and talk football."



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 16:21:42
We are a bigger club historically (although not much in it) with a bit of potential in the right hands.

Mansfield seem to be trying to flex some financial muscle publically, though. So he'd probably get a bigger budget at Mansfield but playing in front of smaller crowds (well, could be bigger if they are winning and we continue to be shit). Obviously the behind the scenes being a bit of a mess doesn't bother Evans, or else he wouldn't have touched Leeds with a barge pole.

Success here and we'll be pushing 10-15K crowds.

He's got a comfortable gig where he is now as the Mansfield fans and board have clearly bought into the ridiculous notion that he's too big for them, so he can do no wrong. He won't have that here.
I would dispute the "not much in it" in terms of size historically.

Mansfield have never been in the Premier League (albeit 1 season)
they have never won one of three big trophies in English football (again albeit only once)
they have never been to the semi final of the FA cup x2
they only 2 football league title sides the last being in 1977 to our 3 titles the last being 2012
they have only had 3 seasons at Championship level whereas we have had 18 in total
we have never fallen out of the top 4 divisions to National League level
their record attendance of 24,467 has been bettered by us on 29 occasions
their home average last season was 3,773 was just over half our average of 7,025

But as you state their chairman seems to be throwing some funds at Evans in a bid to keep him happy and to give them a push up the league but I would still think if he came to us he would have a larger budget than Mansfield can currently provide him with, if a bid for him is eventually accepted then I would say it would come down to the ambition of each clubs owner to win him over.

I am still surprised that he would only be the 2nd manager since I have been watching the Town (42+) years that we have poached from nother club for a fee (Bobby Smith being the last one in 1978 from Port Vale for a fee of £10,000).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 15, 2017, 16:35:48
 Is that bird still involved in running Mansfield, or has she just fleeced Radford for a few bob  :hmmm:

(http://fcbusiness.co.uk/cms/thesite/public/uploads/news_large/1315911188_93.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 15, 2017, 16:42:31
Is that bird still involved in running Mansfield, or has she just fleeced Radford for a few bob  :hmmm:

(http://fcbusiness.co.uk/cms/thesite/public/uploads/news_large/1315911188_93.jpg)

Still the chief exec I believe, looks like Hatie Kopkins after some botched work through a soft filter.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, May 15, 2017, 16:45:12
BBC report Mansfield not allowing Power to talk to fatty.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, May 15, 2017, 16:48:24
BBC report Mansfield not allowing Power to talk to fatty.
Obviously they can stop the formal talks if however they happen to have a had a chat as friends over tea and burgers...sorry I mean biscuits. Then I'm not sure there is a lot Mansfield could do.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 15, 2017, 16:54:07
If Power and Evans are friends, and I'm inclined to believe they are, there's no way they haven't spoken about this.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, May 15, 2017, 16:54:57
Obviously they can stop the formal talks if however they happen to have a had a chat as friends over tea and burgers...sorry I mean biscuits. Then I'm not sure there is a lot Mansfield could do.

Its dealt with by agents anyway usually so surely it is down to Evans to tell Mansfield he wishes to talk to stfc if he's interested, them to throw their toys out the pram saying they are upset he wants to talk etc, then argue over compensation and for Power to claim he got a good deal with a buy back clause inserted


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, May 15, 2017, 16:59:31
If Power and Evans are friends, and I'm inclined to believe they are, there's no way they haven't spoken about this.
Yep, even telling the BBC we would have a manager within 8 days.
It's to specific for conversations not to have been had.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 15, 2017, 17:01:08
 Power, Evans and Boston all mentioned in the same sentence.

I'm starting to think this might not be such a good idea. Evans is the sort of thing we need on the playing front, but....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 17:02:02
Quote from: Flashheart
If Power and Evans are friends, and I'm inclined to believe they are, there's no way they haven't spoken about this.

 quite.

It's either a genuine attempt by Power to get someone who can take us up (leaving personal opinions of the bloke aside).

or it's a complete sham to try and fool us all into thinking he's tired to get someone but had to go in another direction....

the latter would be foolish imo. We'll soon see.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 15, 2017, 17:03:23
We need Steve Evans to nip this in the bud whatever he wants to do.

What we don't need is for this to rumble on.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, May 15, 2017, 17:15:15
No it doesn't. Bookies stopped working like that a long time ago
Then you obviously know something the rest of us don't,  maybe you'd be kind enough to enlighten us.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 15, 2017, 17:16:54
We need Steve Evans to nip this in the bud whatever he wants to do.

What we don't need is for this to rumble on.

Steve Evans and rumbling  :no:  Mr Creosote comes to mind  :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 17:17:42
Playing FM2017 and this happens....tis an omen I tell ee!

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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, May 15, 2017, 17:21:18
We are a bigger club historically (although not much in it) with a bit of potential in the right hands.

Mansfield seem to be trying to flex some financial muscle publically, though. So he'd probably get a bigger budget at Mansfield but playing in front of smaller crowds (well, could be bigger if they are winning and we continue to be shit). Obviously the behind the scenes being a bit of a mess doesn't bother Evans, or else he wouldn't have touched Leeds with a barge pole.

Success here and we'll be pushing 10-15K crowds.

He's got a comfortable gig where he is now as the Mansfield fans and board have clearly bought into the ridiculous notion that he's too big for them, so he can do no wrong. He won't have that here.
Crowds of 10-15k ?, Fucking Hell,  have I missed something ?, surely we're not back in the premiership ?.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, May 15, 2017, 17:48:57
Positives RE Evans:

-Knows this level as much as we could hope for.
-Won't accept interference from anyone else.
-Players won't last long if they aren't up to it or show a poor attitude.
-Likely to adopt a more effective if less pretty playing style.

Negatives RE Evans:

-Despite the above positives, it's still Steve Evans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, May 15, 2017, 18:01:34
Crowds of 10-15k ?, Fucking Hell,  have I missed something ?, surely we're not back in the premiership ?.

Exactly what I was thinking, we didn't average 10k when PDC was here


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, May 15, 2017, 18:15:43
Crowds of 10-15k ?, Fucking Hell,  have I missed something ?, surely we're not back in the premiership ?.

Pushing being the operative word. If we do well, generally, the fans do start to trickle through and we have hit 5 figures. Point is, Mansfield won't even get close to that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, May 15, 2017, 18:25:54
Pushing being the operative word. If we do well, generally, the fans do start to trickle through and we have hit 5 figures. Point is, Mansfield won't even get close to that.
True, Mansfield probably would struggle to get close to that but would be nice to think we could reach those figures.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 15, 2017, 18:54:10
Positives RE Evans:

-Knows this level as much as we could hope for.
-Won't accept interference from anyone else.
-Players won't last long if they aren't up to it or show a poor attitude.
-Likely to adopt a more effective if less pretty playing style.

Negatives RE Evans:

-Despite the above positives, it's still Steve Evans.

All points very valid. I don't like him but if he came and did the job in getting us  back up then he would be classed as a good appointment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: hefty toe on Monday, May 15, 2017, 18:54:58
Steve Evans had a very big budget at Crawley and Rotherham.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 15, 2017, 19:11:02
No comment from Evans yet...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leftside on Monday, May 15, 2017, 19:16:21
No comment from Evans yet...
It's dinner time.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 19:22:47
Quote from: Flashheart
No comment from Evans yet...
no news is no news as they say


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Monday, May 15, 2017, 19:30:06
It's intriguing one of the Mansfield fans on their forum referred to our interest as a "fan appeaser", when I'm seriously considering whether I could support a team with him in charge!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 19:37:55
It's intriguing one of the Mansfield fans on their forum referred to our interest as a "fan appeaser", when I'm seriously considering whether I could support a team with him in charge!

Yes, made me chuckle too.

Think I can just about, but would be counting down the days he left - hopefully because we've done well and he's been poached.

Everything I've read/heard from people who wouldn't BS says this is a genuine approach, but I still can't see it!  Where is the money gone come from?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 15, 2017, 20:32:27
Apparently their CEO just tweeted that he's staying put...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, May 15, 2017, 20:34:05
She's also the chairman's wife.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 15, 2017, 20:35:11
Apparently their CEO just tweeted that he's staying put...

Then let us move on.

I do believe that this is a genuine approach but if Power ends up going for a rookie manager then this will feel a bit like when we were being linked to out-of-our-reach players under Gerard McCrory.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Monday, May 15, 2017, 20:38:01
Speaking of Jed, i met someone from the Banbury United board on saturday night.

As you can imagine, both of us had glowing references of him regarding our teams!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Monday, May 15, 2017, 20:51:17
I want us to do well next season but do not want Evans anywhere near our club, he is a complete fucking twat.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, May 15, 2017, 20:57:58
Apparently their CEO just tweeted that he's staying put...

As usual, when a high Executive in any business (esp. football) comes out and says that, it usually means the opposite. A term used to 'buy time' and keep fans on side.  I'm going to say it. Evans will be our manager on Friday...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Monday, May 15, 2017, 21:02:57
More likely Roy Evans coming back for a second spell.


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 15, 2017, 21:05:59
tweet reads:
@carolynRadford
As CEO of our club I make our position very clear: Steve Evans is staying at Mansfield Town.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, May 15, 2017, 21:12:23
tweet reads:
@carolynRadford
As CEO of our club I make our position very clear: Steve Evans is staying at Mansfield Town.
Don't think that tweet rules anything out, quite the opposite in fact. No mention of Evans' position...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Monday, May 15, 2017, 21:19:17
Heads turned i reckon


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, May 15, 2017, 21:24:10
Heads turned i reckon
I think the absence of them mentioning Evans being happy there or direct quotes from him tells the real story.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 15, 2017, 21:24:11
Don't think that tweet rules anything out, quite the opposite in fact. No mention of Evans' position...

That's what I thought, although it can be easy to read between lines that aren't there.

One would think they'd be in touch with him. It might be them making a show of putting up a fight against the inevitable. Or maybe he is just staying put.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 15, 2017, 21:26:54
Negotiation through the public? Playing hardball? Outright rejection?

Who fucking knows?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: FrigbyDaser on Monday, May 15, 2017, 21:46:37
The tweet is irrelevant. It just means that the only way Evans will leave is by resigning, which means waving goodbye to whatever contract he has there and meaning he'd want as much here. Simple really. Power wouldn't have risked making an official approach and this getting into the public domain unless Evans (or his agent) had said he'd be open to the move in theory.

I've always though Evans is an utter oaf, as well as a criminal, who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him (which wouldn't be very far). Power is a rogue - a team of those two certainly wouldn't be lovable. The bizarre fact of all this is, it is strangely attractive because it is the sort of drastic measure that may arrest the decline of our club. Of course I'd rather a Hasslebaink, Jackett etc, but they are completely unrealistic and he's likely to be better than Ramsay (even if Ramsay may be a decent bloke). I'd expect a press conference, without a gilet in sight, by Friday.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 15, 2017, 21:53:41
The more I think about that tweet, the more it convinces me he's coming.

I need to stop thinking.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 00:44:31
Interesting post from 'Waggy' on Stagsnet (MTFC forum)


Quote
Re: Swindon [refused permission to speak to Evans]

Postby Waggy » Mon May 15, 2017 4:12 pm

In one thread we are rumoured to have out-bid Portsmouth, Bristol Rovers and Coventry for a striker and in this one the manager is after leaving for a cash-strapped car crash of a club with an elevated opinion of itself

It doesn't make sense. Anyone think that Swindon see us as main title contenders and are trying to put a spanner in the works?

Or is it possible that JR and SE have colluded to see what Swindon have in their treasure chest?



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 06:24:14
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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:02:37
Interesting post from 'Waggy' on Stagsnet (MTFC forum)
"A club with an elevated opinion of itself"?

I think the fact that we have approached that slug of a man would suggest otherwise.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:08:13
Actually, I thought that 'cash-strapped car crash of a club with an elevated opinion of itself' was a pretty good description of us.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:16:43
Id rather that than 'Poor man's Chesterfield' though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:19:11
Actually, I thought that 'cash-strapped car crash of a club with an elevated opinion of itself' was a pretty good description of us.

I agreed with everything other than the "elevated opinion" bit because I think the Swindon's only crime here is approaching a club to get permission to speak to their manager. A club with a reclusive mentality and downtrodden fanbase doesn't strike me as elevated.

Elsewhere, I read one Mansfield fan bemoan the 'brown paper bag' transfer of Colin Calderwood during the OUR-CLUB-IS-BETTER-THAN-YOUR-CLUB dick-swinging that goes on during this sort of business. Got to love 30 year old grudges.

I thought the Football League decided that transfer fee?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:25:14
'Delusions of grandeur' was another accusation levelled at us. I did a double take on that one.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:29:27
Maybe Power needs some help with his tax return, needs a couple of 0's to disappear.

In all seriousness, I think it could be a match made in heaven.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:30:22
The one where it Radford and Evans were collaborating together to see our treasure chest made me chuckle


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:30:49
I agreed with everything other than the "elevated opinion" bit because I think the Swindon's only crime here is approaching a club to get permission to speak to their manager. A club with a reclusive mentality and downtrodden fanbase doesn't strike me and elevated.

Elsewhere, I read one Mansfield fan bemoan the 'brown paper bag' transfer of Colin Calderwood during the OUR-CLUB-IS-BETTER-THAN-YOUR-CLUB dick-swinging that goes on during this sort of business. Got to love 30 year old grudges.

I thought the Football League decided that transfer fee?
They did but it was based on false information being given to them. The fee is based on, for example, the salary that the player will be paid and Swindon declared a lower salary than he was actually paid (the rest being made up with "bonuses" that presumably weren't disclosed).

Swindon wasn't the only club to do that sort of thing (Chelsea and Spurs were found guilty of financial irregularities at around the same time) but it was the one to be made an example of. I still harbour a grudge 30 years on.....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:37:10
'Delusions of grandeur' was another accusation levelled at us. I did a double take on that one.

Delusions of mediocrity would be better.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:39:30
The one where it Radford and Evans were collaborating together to see our treasure chest made me chuckle
Garrr Tim me hearty.....tis empty....best we plunder the high seas again....yarrrrrr.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:44:58
They did but it was based on false information being given to them. The fee is based on, for example, the salary that the player will be paid and Swindon declared a lower salary than he was actually paid (the rest being made up with "bonuses" that presumably weren't disclosed).

Swindon wasn't the only club to do that sort of thing (Chelsea and Spurs were found guilty of financial irregularities at around the same time) but it was the one to be made an example of. I still harbour a grudge 30 years on.....
Exactly....and I too still bear a grudge 30 years on against the Football League hierarchy.

But what they seem to forget is that it was under Macari's guidance that made Colin into the player he became, I doubt he would have got the same standard of coaching at Mansfield under Ian Greaves so would not have progessed so quickly IMO and could well have stayed at that level.

Great coaching makes great players and Macari and staff were great coaches.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 08:53:12
I hold a grudge against the Mansfield fans for chucking a brick through the back window of the Rimes' coach back in 68.

Fucking freezing on the way home..... and don't even start on Thatcher's finest in 86.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:05:03
I hold a grudge against the Mansfield fans for chucking a brick through the back window of the Rimes' coach back in 68.

Fucking freezing on the way home..... and don't even start on Thatcher's finest in 86.
I was still in a pushchair in 68 :D but 86 when we won the title there was a day I won't forget, even though they were going for promotion too I don't remember Mansfield fans at all that day just the invasion of about 3,500 Town fans and of course the old bill out for a bit of a fight.

I think the irony on their forum about delusions of grandeur when you read some of their posts, they seem very very arrogant that they will win promotion this season.

Quote
Swindon are another County. Once played at a higher level and now have delusions of grandeur.

Personally, I think Swindon have made the approach to try to de-stabilise us in the transfer market. If players start to doubt that Steve Evans will be here, will Mansfield still be such an attractive proposition?

He's going nowhere, maybe swindon are just trying to unsettle the players/backroom/fans because they know we want success and so do they probably so if they can cause some kind of unrest despite knowing there's no chance evans would leave for a team in the same league. 'I'm not a league 2 manager'

I find all this simmering feeling of 'Evans is bigger than Mansfield' quite distasteful. Evans will never be bigger than our club

He wants another promotion on his cv and he know he has good chance of getting it here.

He will NEVER leave us for another league two club. NEVER. He would only accept a job in a higher league where they have a stable back room that are pulling the same way with supporters.

If Swindon are doing it to try and destabilise our promotion push given we've been out the blocks quickly and publicly stated our intent then I hope Evans can convince any pending signings to still sign on the dotted line!

The Mini got more chance being made at British Leyland by Friday than Stevie Evans becoming Swindon manager

I think if Steve Evans was going to stay at Mansfield he would have come out publically and denied he was interested in the Swindon job......his silence tells you everything.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:09:44
Mansfield is literally just an exit on the M1 nobody uses.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:11:05
Considering he "isn't leaving Stags" and is a "non-story" 132 contributions to a nothing thread is quite the interest. I'm finding it hilarious, I mean I couldn't care less if Evans becomes our new manager or not but if I was a MTFC fan then i'd be pretty concerned at the silence of the current manager. A manager that they have pinned so many hopes on  :clap:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:15:00
Regardless of whether we want Evans as our manager or not - and I am in the NO camp - it will be refreshing to see a manager with a bit of passion on the touchline unlike the mediocrity we have experienced in recent seasons!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:16:55
Considering he "isn't leaving Stags" and is a "non-story" 132 contributions to a nothing thread is quite the interest. I'm finding it hilarious, I mean I couldn't care less if Evans becomes our new manager or not but if I was a MTFC fan then i'd be pretty concerned at the silence of the current manager. A manager that they have pinned so many hopes on  :clap:

It's like a milder version of when we had a bid for James Constable accepted.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:22:17
It's like a milder version of when we had a bid for James Constable accepted.

One fella suggests Stags should use their new found "wealth", to destabilise us by putting in a bid for one of our highly rated players  :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:23:08
One fella suggests Stags should use their new found "wealth", to destabilise us by putting in a bid for one of our highly rated players  :)

do we have any apart from vigs?  ???


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:24:04
One fella suggests Stags should use their new found "wealth", to destabilise us by putting in a bid for one of our highly rated players  :)

Maybe this was our plan all along? Conor Thomas for £250,000?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/HPvfnOuz1tOgg/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:24:50
do we have any apart from vigs?  ???

No Gareth we don't, in fact we hardly have any players and of course Vigs is on the market.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:35:20
Mansfield is literally just an exit on the M1 nobody uses.

Sorry Sonic, I get the intent and football clubs aside; I live not so far away from Mansfield and it's actually one of the better Towns in the area. It's a small town nonetheless but has plenty of historic buildings and very much mirrors the older architecture of Nottingham in parts. At the Swan pub there is a stone dated 1400's (can't remember the exact date) and much of the building still survive from that century. Unfortunately family tell me that in the 1970's they demolished quite a few of the 15th century buildings and it's most 17th century stuff now. Still quite interesting historically though.

Also Mansfield is basically the middle of Sherwood Forest which i'm sure needs no introduction.

Football wise I couldn't give a damn but go into the Town and it's one of the more interesting Towns than most of today's "blueprint Britain". Generally speaking, football fans and hooligans of yesteryear aside, the people of Mansfield are generally a  fair lot.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:35:54
Im really enjoying being a "big fish" again in this league and the hatred that follows. Its only May and we haven't wasted anytime. Reminds of tapping up Luke Rooney and just having Di Canio in general as gaffa.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:39:18
Sorry Sonic, I get the intent and football clubs aside; I live not so far away from Mansfield and it's actually one of the better Towns in the area. It's a small town nonetheless but has plenty of historic buildings and very much mirrors the older architecture of Nottingham in parts. At the Swan pub there is a stone dated 1400's (can't remember the exact date) and much of the building still survive from that century. Unfortunately family tell me that in the 1970's they demolished quite a few of the 15th century buildings and it's most 17th century stuff now. Still quite interesting historically though.

Also Mansfield is basically the middle of Sherwood Forest which i'm sure needs no introduction.

Football wise I couldn't give a damn but go into the Town and it's one of the more interesting Towns than most of today's "blueprint Britain". Generally speaking, football fans and hooligans of yesteryear aside, the people of Mansfield are generally a  fair lot.

Fuck me are you auditioning for the role as East Midlands based Reg?  ;) :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:39:28
Im really enjoying being a "big fish" again in this league and the hatred that follows. Its only May and we haven't wasted anytime. Reminds of tapping up Luke Rooney and just having Di Canio in general as gaffa.

We are quite hated, by our own supporters :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:40:03

Elsewhere, I read one Mansfield fan bemoan the 'brown paper bag' transfer of Colin Calderwood during the OUR-CLUB-IS-BETTER-THAN-YOUR-CLUB dick-swinging that goes on during this sort of business. Got to love 30 year old grudges.

I thought the Football League decided that transfer fee?

It's ironic that Steve Evans got convicted of similar crimes as Brian Hillier. The media will cotton on and lap this up I am sure.

What's even more ironic is that there is a section of our fan base bemoaning that Lee Power is asset stripping the club, taking us for a ride and is effectively a crook. This same section of fans appear to have made Steve Evans, a convicted fraudster and supposed friend of Power as their standout candidate for manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:46:22
Fuck me are you auditioning for the role as East Midlands based Reg?  ;) :D

I'm sure he'll disagree but Reg does get around....it's not beyond the realms of possibility and I know he has a soft spot for old mining towns ;)  :pint: :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 09:47:33
It's ironic that Steve Evans got convicted of similar crimes as Brian Hillier. The media will cotton on and lap this up I am sure.

Somebody will notice. They always do.

Quote
What's even more ironic is that there is a section of our fan base bemoaning that Lee Power is asset stripping the club, taking us for a ride and is effectively a crook. This same section of fans appear to have made Steve Evans, a convicted fraudster and supposed friend of Power as their standout candidate for manager.

I read somewhere, probably on the Facebook page, a conversation where it seemed that some Town fans wanted Steve Evans at Swindon simply because it would upset the 'lefty snowflake' element of our fanbase.

This was me mostly reading between the lines though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 10:00:29
Fuck me are you auditioning for the role as East Midlands based Reg?  ;) :D

To the north of Mansfield lies The Dukeries. A strange place, the only one in the UK, where I've been escorted from the land by a gun totting game keeper for a bit of harmless trespass. All a bit DH Lawrence.

It's called the Dukeries as the land is owned by a few families, who got rich from the mineral rights of having coal under it.

Also nearby you've got Shirebrook, home to Mike Ashley's Gulag.... a kind of Tory wet dream, shaft the remnants of the miners, by importing loads of Poles and other Eastern Europeans, to work their nuts off on zero hours contracts.

All a bit Victorian...women have been known to drop their sprogs in the bogs, rather than lose a bit of pay.

Still May is going to protect workers rights, so that's alright then.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 10:12:01
To the north of Mansfield lies The Dukeries. A strange place, the only one in the UK, where I've been escorted from the land by a gun totting game keeper for a bit of harmless trespass. All a bit DH Lawrence.

It's called the Dukeries as the land is owned by a few families, who got rich from the mineral rights of having coal under it.

Also nearby you've got Shirebrook, home to Mike Ashley's Gulag.... a kind of Tory wet dream, shaft the remnants of the miners, by importing loads of Poles and other Eastern Europeans, to work their nuts off on zero hours contracts.

All a bit Victorian...women have been known to drop their sprogs in the bogs, rather than lose a bit of pay.

Still May is going to protect workers rights, so that's alright then.

 :pint:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 10:27:21
To the north of Mansfield lies The Dukeries. A strange place, the only one in the UK, where I've been escorted from the land by a gun totting game keeper for a bit of harmless trespass. All a bit DH Lawrence.

It's called the Dukeries as the land is owned by a few families, who got rich from the mineral rights of having coal under it.

Also nearby you've got Shirebrook, home to Mike Ashley's Gulag.... a kind of Tory wet dream, shaft the remnants of the miners, by importing loads of Poles and other Eastern Europeans, to work their nuts off on zero hours contracts.

All a bit Victorian...women have been known to drop their sprogs in the bogs, rather than lose a bit of pay.

Still May is going to protect workers rights, so that's alright then.

Ahh The Dukeries, although it's nearer Edwinstowe but your escortation is probably to do with what is still in the ground there. By all accounts (and this is local pub talk by the way) a Metal Detectorist got shot in the forearm and the landowners were cleared of any wrongdoing by Royal Protection  :)

You'll be aware of places like Warsop and the wonderfully named Spion Kop and Meden Vale. It is actually all very lovely land around there.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 10:34:25
Ahh The Dukeries, although it's nearer Edwinstowe but your escortation is probably to do with what is still in the ground there. By all accounts (and this is local pub talk by the way) a Metal Detectorist got shot in the forearm and the landowners were cleared of any wrongdoing by Royal Protection  :)

You'll be aware of places like Warsop and the wonderfully named Spion Kop and Meden Vale. It is actually all very lovely land around there.

It's lovely because the Dukes kept the plebs out or in some instances forcibly removed them..... also very little in the way of walking access, that the lower orders might enjoy the views.

There are a few bits of England, where the feudal system never really ended and The Dukeries is one of them.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 10:41:26
Stags fan getting wet at the prospect of signing Marc McNulty....

Quote
Postby SINA STAG » Mon May 15, 2017 4:16 pm
I think Evans n Radford are shaking the lower leagues with anticipation on what we can offer n who were offering to when players turn down contracts n championship level to talk to teams like Mansfield you can see Evans n Radford are working together n bringing success to the Stags....

In turn squashes the rumours of Evans going to Swindon or any other club

Even Zander Diamond stated on his interview that the desires n intentions of the club n targeted players was a big signing plus for the player


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 10:44:03
Stags fan getting wet at the prospect of signing Marc McNulty....


Good for them. Five years in Non-League followed by some dull seasons in L2 and they beginning to feel like they might compete.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 10:45:55
I liked this post, which was an MTFC fan's comment on local reporting of the Swindon approach:

This whole episode could easily be put to bed, by The Manager (not Chairman or CEO) just saying that he's committed to Mansfield Town, and going nowhere. Unfortunately, Steve Evans has an ego more sizable than his waistline, and he takes no greater pleasure than hearing his name banded about in the media. So, to prolong his few days in the limelight a little longer, he keeps his mouth shut. Just another example of how the man has zero class. I'm sure he'll have been contacted by a local journalist, Chad, 103.2 or he could even pick up the phone and release a statement via Mark Stevenson at the club. He's not bothered if the fans of Mansfield Town are left biting their nails for a few days, it's all part and parcel of the circus as far as he's concerned. Strut, If qualifying for the title of "One of the best Manager's in the Football League" is gained by constantly berating and shouting at officials, having a scatter gun approach to signing players (at least 5 of the 7/8 players Evans brought to the club in January made very little impact) Treating players like there are purely a commodity, bending the rules as much as possible, (or even breaking them in terms of illegal player payments) the Yes, Evans is right up there. In my eyes, (as we saw from his strange starting line ups, and substitutions last season) the bloke is pretty average, and if you actually put him alongside genuine quality Managers in the FL, like Chris Wilder, or even Paul Cook, Evans would fall short, time and time again from a tactics, and squad building point of view. If Evans really wants to go to Swindon, tell the club not to spend any money on getting him there, as I'll gladly drive the bloke for free (with my headphones on, so I don't have to listen to the absolute 8o11ox that he spouts most of the time)

Read more at: http://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/mansfield-town/stags-turn-down-swindon-approach-for-manager-evans-1-8544320


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 10:48:28
Good for them. Five years in Non-League followed by some dull seasons in L2 and they beginning to feel like they might compete.

Granted but as others have stated, some of their fans appear to think that they will be challenging for promotion next season (which is fine) however it's almost as if they are entitled to walk the league. I think they'll finish 10th.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 11:19:42
One thing that concerns me if Evans does join us, is the loyalty he would of shown to Mansfield.

Having been there 6 months and jumped at the 1st opportunity, who’s to say he wouldn’t do the same to us if we start the season well and a bigger club comes in for him?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 11:29:03
Imagine Evans only has loyalty to one person, and that is no more Lee Power than it is John or Carolyn Radford.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 11:31:56
Having been there 6 months and jumped at the 1st opportunity, who’s to say he wouldn’t do the same to us if we start the season well and a bigger club comes in for him?

True of most managers though. Look at Wise (and T**d proving a good start isn't even necessary).



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 11:32:43
Imagine Evans only has loyalty to one person

Mr Kipling?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 11:49:46
One thing that concerns me if Evans does join us, is the loyalty he would of shown to Mansfield.

Having been there 6 months and jumped at the 1st opportunity, who’s to say he wouldn’t do the same to us if we start the season well and a bigger club comes in for him?


Pretty much any manager would be off if the right approach came in, gawd knows we've lost a few ourselves in that manner.

If he does join us only to be poached further along the line, take heart that it'll likely be because he did well.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 11:50:51
Quote
Steve Evans doesn't even know if Swindon want him - our chairman hasn't given them permission to speak to him.

I can't tell if that's a genuine comment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 11:52:35
I'd be very amused by Lee Power approaching Mansfield for permission to tell Steve Evans he wouldn't appoint him in a milion years.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 11:54:23
Bollocks to Steve Evans. Is this how low the club has sunk?
Cunts like that now the preferred choice.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 12:00:31
Is this how low the club has sunk?
 

That is a moot point we may sink lower yet, before bottoming out.

I'm far from convinced that Power is actively seeeking Evans, he is the sort of thing we need in order to keep FL status, but the Mansfield fans... fan appeaser line does ring true, we've seen it with players like Bradshaw and Nichols.

The club is not as well run as many non league outfits...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 12:01:36
Mr Kipling?
Well he does make exceedingly good cakes!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 12:12:58
I beginning to think that it may be Evans who's playing a game...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 12:19:56
I beginning to think that it may be Evans who's playing a game...

Power and Evans are mates... Evans gets a bit of leverage at Mansfield, Power gets to look like he's pursuing a proper boss. Win/win


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 12:28:20
Power and Evans are mates... Evans gets a bit of leverage at Mansfield, Power gets to look like he's pursuing a proper boss. Win/win
That's all very good, Reg, but what this has done is very publicly raise fans expectations. If not Evans then surely the money is there to spend on a different decent manager. It also points to having a decent budget to attract Evans.

If it subsequently proves to be our usual low key recruitment then whatever credibility Power has will be shot to pieces.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 12:32:02
Power and Evans are mates... Evans gets a bit of leverage at Mansfield, Power gets to look like he's pursuing a proper boss. Win/win

I cant see Power would do that, it would be enough to help him for just rumours linking him to the job for that.

Power is obviously after an experienced lower league manager, the question is though if we dont get Evans, then who gets approached next ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 12:36:51
Power and Evans are mates...

I have probably missed it but what evidence is to support this idea, bat Evans once signing Power for Boston?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 12:48:36
What's Brian McDermott up to nowadays? He'd tick the boxes for me. Good youth set up experience where he served his coaching apprenticeship plus he did a good job at Reading. I like how he speaks too.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 12:56:39
I'll go out on a limb and say it won't be Evans


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:02:57
What was the target date for the new appointment?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:06:43
What was the target date for the new appointment?

Beginning of September?

("within 8 days" which I think is Friday).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:08:19
From the FB group:

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Alan Archibald was on SSN just a moment ago & said he would listen if Swindon were to approach him for the managers job. Although he did say he was still happy at Partick.

Which seems to blow out the rumours that he has been interviewed surely?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:12:25
From the FB group:

Which seems to blow out the rumours that he has been interviewed surely?

I don't see how you come to that conclusion. Interviewing somebody and offering them the job are two very different things.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:13:03
I have probably missed it but what evidence is to support this idea, bat Evans once signing Power for Boston?
Signed him from Halifax I believe.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:14:17
Which seems to blow out the rumours that he has been interviewed surely?

Define "interviewed".

A club can't formally/publically just go round tapping up contracted managers or players. Informally it happens all the time.

Who knows.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wokinghamred on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:14:36
Steve Cotterill anyone?

He has turned down the role of assistant at Birmingham.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:15:47
Steve Cotterill anyone?

He has turned down the role of assistant at Birmingham.

You'd think that bridges were burnt to a crisp after 2014-15.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:15:58
Bollocks to Steve Evans. Is this how low the club has sunk?
Cunts like that now the preferred choice.
Spot on.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:16:07
Steve Cotterill anyone?

He has turned down the role of assistant at Birmingham.

On the cunt scale, slightly less of one that Evans. Slightly.  Could work (for a bit).



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:18:55
On the cunt scale, slightly less of one that Evans. Slightly.  Could work.



I still love this observation of Steve Cotterill.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYvzdlcWMAAHljg.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wokinghamred on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:21:26
I still love this observation of Steve Cotterill.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYvzdlcWMAAHljg.jpg)

Brilliant !


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:22:10
hahaha. poetic.

Would be "fun" when he had a run in with Power, which would be inevitable I feel.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:25:56
That is a moot point we may sink lower yet, before bottoming out.
We may also be in the Champions League by 2022


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:28:43
We may also be in the Champions League by 2022
Tenner says we're not :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:31:21
Tenner says we're not :)
sorry, I meant Fulham - wrong forum...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: scillyred on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:44:54
Spot on.

Spot on x2

This is almost as shambolic as last season - good work  :clap:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 13:50:33
This is almost as shambolic as last season - good work  :clap:

I think we're still within timescales of acceptability but the clock is ticking.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 14:10:07
I still love this observation of Steve Cotterill.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYvzdlcWMAAHljg.jpg)

The Portsmouth manager in that book is blatantly Michael Appleton


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 14:12:15
The Portsmouth manager in that book is blatantly Michael Appleton

I've not read it but that second paragraph is a nailed on observation of Cotterill. We don't need any book to confirm that!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 14:22:16
The Portsmouth manager in that book is blatantly Michael Appleton
Without doubt, especially as Kitson retired a year early shortly after Appleton became Oxford manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 14:28:24
That's all very good, Reg, but what this has done is very publicly raise fans expectations. If not Evans then surely the money is there to spend on a different decent manager. It also points to having a decent budget to attract Evans.

If it subsequently proves to be our usual low key recruitment then whatever credibility Power has will be shot to pieces.

Not really...Evans doesn't have much of rep beyond being a dodgy lower league boss. Power doesn't have any credibility.

However, I think most fans will be happy, if we can at least look like a side that goes out to try and win games with a few players who look like pros.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 14:30:33
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/15288980.Archibald_would__consider__Town_move/


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 14:41:21
I am loving the comments across all social media about potential managers:

"Evans is a cunt, I willl never watch a game with him in charge"

"Cotterill is a cunt, I will never watch a game in charge"

"Archibald is a Power puppet, we need a 'hard fucker' as a manager, not a wimp"

"We need an experienced manager, not a kid"

The few that "hate" Evans is because he called the club a circus when PDC was here, the few that "hate" Cotterill is because of his comments about the club when we beat them at the CG a couple seasons back.

Whoever is brought in is going to divide the fans, they either hate the person "because he is a cunt" or because they aren't a "hard fucker" and will be a "Power puppet".


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 14:41:44
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/15288980.Archibald_would__consider__Town_move/

My worry about him would be the new man/woman is going to have to build a squad more or less from scratch. it needs someone who knows Div 4/Conference level, and it needs to start asap, otherwise we'll be in the same position as the last couple of seasons.

I know it's a bit easier in Div 4 with only two down, but we need someone to hit the ground running...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 14:52:06
Just noticed betting odds, Archibald has gone out from evens to 3-1, Fatty has gone from 7-4 to 1-3 favourite,  let's hope it's the same as Corbyn and Trump and the bookies have fucked up.  PLEASE ............... A MILLION TIMES PLEASE.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 14:55:02
My worry about him would be the new man/woman is going to have to build a squad more or less from scratch. it needs someone who knows Div 4/Conference level, and it needs to start asap, otherwise we'll be in the same position as the last couple of seasons.

I know it's a bit easier in Div 4 with only two down, but we need someone to hit the ground running...

Patrick Thistle's recruitment isn't a million miles off L2/National League standard. They dip in to similar talents pools of than Swindon will be under whoever takes over.

Abdul Osman, David Amoo, Mustapha Dumbuya, Ade Azeez, Adam Barton all Partick players with lower Football League experience while Christie Elliott joined from the Northern League. All of them helping Thistle finish in the top half of the Scottish Premiership.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 14:58:39
Patrick Thistle's recruitment isn't a million miles off L2/National League standard. They dip in to similar talents pools of than Swindon will be under whoever takes over.

Abdul Osman, David Amoo, Mustapha Dumbuya, Ade Azeez, Adam Barton all Partick players with lower Football League experience while Christie Elliott joined from the Northern League. All of them helping Thistle finish in the top half of the Scottish Premiership.

I'd imagine there must be a core of Sweatie players though.  Your list was 6 long, the last time I looked, ours was nearer to 15.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 15:09:13
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/15288980.Archibald_would__consider__Town_move/

That's clearly a come and get me, the only concern is he would not necessarily know what players are needed for L2 and we need to hit the ground running with recruitment


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 15:58:02
If the approaching of Evans was really all just a ploy for Power to look like he was doing something, would the club not be publicising it, everything to date appears to have come from the Mansfield end, and it is not really clear why they have publicised it either unless its to try and show the fans that they are trying to keep hold of him?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 16:12:50
I think it more likely Evans has publicised it unofficially to put Mansfield's owner under pressure.

more likely than Power pulling the 'unrealistic signing' publicity stunt ...  again .. that is.

but who knows.

my take is Evans expressed an interest and is either coming, or been headed off by Mansfield upping his budget and making a move to us less appealing...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 16:17:15
oh and Mansfield have signed another player (not McNulty)..

doesn't scream of the manager leaving.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 16:26:43
Maybe he's not responsible for player recruitment at Mansfield  ;).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 16:28:40
fair comment, but not believe to be the case according to young Wills


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 16:31:03
Mansfield fans should be grateful that we let them have Ray Clarke for fuck all...I'd imagine Ray must be up there in the top 5 Stags players of all time.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 16:34:05
Town to sign Zander Diamond and Marc McNulty day just days after Statement Friday...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 16:43:53
One thing that concerns me if Evans does join us, is the loyalty he would of shown to Mansfield.

Having been there 6 months and jumped at the 1st opportunity, who’s to say he wouldn’t do the same to us if we start the season well and a bigger club comes in for him?


If he's appointed, the day he leaves can't come soon enough.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 16:50:50
That's clearly a come and get me, the only concern is he would not necessarily know what players are needed for L2 and we need to hit the ground running with recruitment

It certainly reads like that but maybe he is being clever and not distancing himself from it to give himself room to negotiate with his current club over what he needs to push them any further (if possible).

I have to say if its a choice between Archibald and Evans i go with Archibald all day long. Evans had success with money at Crawley and pretty crap spells everywhere else, not even counting his odious personality. Archibald on face value seems to have done well on a low budget and has continually improved a club. So what he doesn't know league 2, neither did PDC or Dennis Wise.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 16:51:37
It certainly reads like that but maybe he is being clever and not distancing himself from it to give himself room to negotiate with his current club over what he needs to push them any further (if possible).

I have to say if its a choice between Archibald and Evans i go with Archibald all day long. Evans had success with money at Crawley and pretty crap spells everywhere else, not even counting his odious personality. Archibald on face value seems to have done well on a low budget and has continually improved a club. So what he doesn't know league 2, neither did PDC or Dennis Wise.

Didn't Evans win back to back promotions with Rotherham?


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 16:57:32
Mansfield signing number 4. (not Fraser, not Fraser) Digby.

can we put Evans to Swindon to bed now?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 16:57:54
Mansfield have just completed their second signing of the day.....
It's looking less and less likely to be Evans, I still think there is going to be some twists and turns to come.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 17:03:13
Didn't Evans win back to back promotions with Rotherham?

You are quite right, turns out i know nothing! Still don't want the prick


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 17:05:19
So what he doesn't know league 2, neither did PDC or Dennis Wise.

Both had a decent nucleus of players from the previous campaign to work with...we've got Luke Norris and erm maybe Dion Conroy, who's played maybe a dozen games.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 17:07:50
Both had a decent nucleus of players from the previous campaign to work with...we've got Luke Norris and erm maybe Dion Conroy, who's played maybe a dozen games.

I wouldn't want a nucleus of the players we had last season anyway. I don't see the level he has managed at in Scotland as much of a difference to league two/one so he knows the standard of players he needs for the job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 17:08:01
That's clearly a come and get me, the only concern is he would not necessarily know what players are needed for L2 and we need to hit the ground running with recruitment
I haven't been approached yet, but I would strongly consider moving if Swindon Town were to offer me the job of manager.  I would certainly listen to what Mr Power had to say, but I am happy with my life at the moment and the job I am doing.

(Does that say come and get me too?)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: joteddyred on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 17:18:23
Mansfield have just completed their second signing of the day.....
It's looking less and less likely to be Evans, I still think there is going to be some twists and turns to come.

I hope that's the case.  He's an odious and vile man.  After last season's shambles, surely Power would not be so stupid to make such a divisive appointment?

Whatever the outcome, it's fast becoming a bit of a farce.  Same old Swindon!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 17:23:30
I haven't been approached yet, but I would strongly consider moving if Swindon Town were to offer me the job of manager.  I would certainly listen to what Mr Power had to say, but I am happy with my life at the moment and the job I am doing.

(Does that say come and get me too?)
That does indeed sound like a "come get me Mr Power"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 17:30:59
I hope that's the case.  He's an odious and vile man.  After last season's shambles, surely Power would not be so stupid to make such a divisive appointment?

Whatever the outcome, it's fast becoming a bit of a farce.  Same old Swindon!

What is 'it' and how is 'it' becoming a farce?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 17:31:57
How is it becoming a farce? didn't we say 8 days a few days ago and everything else appears to be either agents or clubs leaking their own info out, nothing has come from us so far has it?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 17:51:42
Just signed player number 5. Paul Anderson this time


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 17:51:45
another another new signing for Mansfield....

their fans could be right about things


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 17:58:24
What I've found strange, is they've announced 3 signings today, and not one of the articles they've put up has any direct quotes from Evans.
Also, there are photos of the contracts being signed next to the CEO with Evans nowhere to be seen.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: 1989Monkey on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 18:02:11
There making signings but out of the 3 today I would only have wanted Anderson. Is it a case of the club making the signings before he departs? There are certainly no quotes from Evans or pictures with the signings. Money is also a massive factor and players will be on more money at Mansfield than if they came here with the money their Chairman is putting in.

Wouldn't it be nice to be the club that make all their signings this early in the summer rather than be the ones that wait till the end!

As for new manager I would guess its between Evans, Archibald, Hasselbaink or Keith Hill but its just whether a club will agree to a deal


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 18:02:19
Perhaps chairman is panicking and just signing everyone to try and keep him happy :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 18:08:27

Also, there are photos of the contracts being signed next to the CEO with Evans nowhere to be seen.

She is a bit more photogenic that Evans....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 18:12:39
She is a bit more photogenic that Evans....
So is a slug.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 18:19:08
I wouldn't want a nucleus of the players we had last season anyway. I don't see the level he has managed at in Scotland as much of a difference to league two/one so he knows the standard of players he needs for the job.

Nor would I. But whoever it is has got to come in, build a complete squad in a matter of weeks, get them ready and have them playing winning football. Not an easy thing to do for any manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: random_five on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 18:22:09
Nor would I. But whoever it is has got to come in, build a complete squad in a matter of weeks, get them ready and have them playing winning football. Not an easy thing to do for any manager.

You mean like Di Canio did..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 18:54:58
to be fair, some of PDCs early signings were dodgy to say the least.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 18:58:12
You mean like Di Canio did..

Reg was probably loving it when we lost 4 of the first 5 games.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 18:59:56
I am loving the comments across all social media about potential managers:

"Evans is a cunt, I willl never watch a game with him in charge"

"Cotterill is a cunt, I will never watch a game in charge"

"Archibald is a Power puppet, we need a 'hard fucker' as a manager, not a wimp"

"We need an experienced manager, not a kid"

The few that "hate" Evans is because he called the club a circus when PDC was here, the few that "hate" Cotterill is because of his comments about the club when we beat them at the CG a couple seasons back.

Whoever is brought in is going to divide the fans, they either hate the person "because he is a cunt" or because they aren't a "hard fucker" and will be a "Power puppet".

I wondered where you had gone?

Have you been away?

Just in case you missed it....we went down...total fuck up!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 19:03:56
After how soft Williams has been, I really wouldn't mind seeing the opposite of the new manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 19:04:58
to be fair, some of PDCs early signings were dodgy to say the least.
Not just his early signings he made some poor signings but also some great signings too, heres a few of the duds....Commazzi, Atiku, Lanzano, Esajas, Risser, Boateng(loan), Cox, Gabilondo, Tehoue(loan), Magera, Murray


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 19:06:02
Mansfield signing number 4. (not Fraser, not Fraser) Digby.

can we put Evans to Swindon to bed now?

He won't work here.

We don't get that many in until mid September!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 19:07:50
Reg was probably loving it when we lost 4 of the first 5 games.
Interestingly when we won the title in 85-86 we only won 2 of our first 8 games and lost 5 of those.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 19:23:24
Interestingly when we won the title in 85-86 we only won 2 of our first 8 games and lost 5 of those.

Do you think fans were more understanding then, because I think if our new manager has that kind of start next season there will be many calling for him to be sacked


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 19:26:01

The few that "hate" Evans is because he called the club a circus when PDC was here

Cheers, but that's not why I hate Evans at all. I've said worse things about the club under PDC than Evans did myself.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 19:26:47
You mean like Di Canio did..

I'll repeat myself.

 When he began PdC could happily pick 7 of 11 starters already on the books, which included players like Caddis, Flint, and Ritchie, all of whom have been in the Championship or in Ritchie's case Prem recently. He could also stick Nathan and Ferry on the bench. An XI of already contracted players would have been possible.

Our new manager is going to have Conroy, whose played about a dozen games, Conor Thomas, who most don't rate, 4 goal striker Luke Norris, with Jon Goddard. However you want to dress it up, that is not a strong core for a FL club even in the basement.

No doubt the XI for our opener, will have the fewest STFC FL games under their belt since the opener v Luton in 1920.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 19:33:58
http://mobile.mansfieldtown.net//news/article/2016-17/gaffer-excited-after-hat-trick-of-signings-3718096.aspx


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 19:35:56
I'll repeat myself.

 When he began PdC could happily pick 7 of 11 starters already on the books, which included players like Caddis, Flint, and Ritchie, all of whom have been in the Championship or in Ritchie's case Prem recently. He could also stick Nathan and Ferry on the bench. An XI of already contracted players would have been possible.

PDC did bring in a lot of players that summer - most of them were pretty dreadful through a variety of agent connections - Atiku, Comazzi, Lanzano, Magera, Risser etc. - in some ways he was very lucky that we had a lot of very talented players in the squad already. Can't deny that he got them fit and playing together, but building a squad was not his forte.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 19:40:43
PDC did bring in a lot of players that summer - most of them were pretty dreadful through a variety of agent connections - Atiku, Comazzi, Lanzano, Magera, Risser etc. - in some ways he was very lucky that we had a lot of very talented players in the squad already. Can't deny that he got them fit and playing together, but building a squad was not his forte.



Yes, this is the point....if PdC hadn't the core of quality around, given some of the dross who he brought in we'd have struggled.

The new manager isn't going to have that advantage... the Evans thing as suspected looks increasingly like a smokescreen, but he's showing at Stags, that to build a squad you need to crack on with it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 20:07:33
Do you think fans were more understanding then, because I think if our new manager has that kind of start next season there will be many calling for him to be sacked

If that was the Macari season, we actually got him re-instated after he'd been sacked - so yes


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 16, 2017, 20:24:54
Do you think fans were more understanding then, because I think if our new manager has that kind of start next season there will be many calling for him to be sacked

Not all fans are stupid... Macari had managed to turn around the home form in 84/85...fans could see a side looking to win the game, could see players improving. The slow start in 85/86 was a consequence of only 3 home games in the first 8 and the away form still being a problem. The opener at the CG was lost, but the next 2 won...in fact the 1-0 defeat to Wrexham was the only loss that season, also there was progress in the LC.

The new manager is going to need to show some evidence of t e home form being at least more acceptable than the historic shite we've had to put up with the last couple of seasons.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: joteddyred on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 00:23:06
How is it becoming a farce? didn't we say 8 days a few days ago and everything else appears to be either agents or clubs leaking their own info out, nothing has come from us so far has it?

I don't know where it's come from, but it's coming from somewhere.  Why not just keep things quiet about who we're speaking to until there's something concrete to avoid all the speculation?  Other clubs seem to manage it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 00:38:46
I don't know where it's come from, but it's coming from somewhere.  Why not just keep things quiet about who we're speaking to until there's something concrete to avoid all the speculation?  Other clubs seem to manage it.

I'm quite sure other teams without managers will be going through the same...

Fans and the media look at potential targets, just like this 42 page thread! Fans put money on tips/rumours/hopes, betting odds tumble, the adver contacts the favourites clubs to see if manager is interested hoping for a scoop. I can't see any comment from Swindon at all in this I don't know why you think it's the club


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 07:13:59
I don't know where it's come from, but it's coming from somewhere.  Why not just keep things quiet about who we're speaking to until there's something concrete to avoid all the speculation?  Other clubs seem to manage it.
We have kept things quiet haven't we? Mansfield came out and said they'd refused us permission, Swindon haven't said a word about it.
It's been either the Adver/Total or Mansfield, that's reported it. All Power has said officially is he'd like an appointment in 8 days. So think its a bit unfair to criticise Power/the club for what's currently in the media.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 07:48:11
Do you think fans were more understanding then, because I think if our new manager has that kind of start next season there will be many calling for him to be sacked
I am not sure, I know that back then we were pretty shit so we accepted we were shit and anything extra was a nice bonus.

If that was the Macari season, we actually got him re-instated after he'd been sacked - so yes
It was Macari in charge but the reinstatement season was the one prior to that season, happened around Easter time after Macari and Harry Gregg had a massive fall out over training methods, the board sacking them both but reinstating Macari after large scale (for us) protests.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 07:57:42
During this situation Swindon Town and Lee Power haven't done anything majorly wrong whatsoever.

- They've given timescales (which was probably more hopeful than concrete)
- They've kept quiet
- They've not negotiated via the media

Nowadays these actions will result in

- The initial date being magnified to result in any appointment made after the self-imposed deadline being deemed as recruitment out of desperation. Especially if it's not someone from the bookmakers list.

- Criticism for not keeping the loyal fans up-to-date unlike that lovely Peterborough chairman on Twitter.

- Being criticised for going through the media even though it's Mansfield and Partick have been talking about it openly.

There will come a point when it's been too long but right now footballers are in Las Vegas and Dubai and we need to (ideally) get this appointment right. Therefore I'm happy to give Power longer on this.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 08:03:33
Is he still not here...

think I'll start to worry at the end of next week, mainly because I assumed we had a bit of a plan with the timescale and "well underway" search.

There is a lot to be done at this club.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 08:24:29
He's moaned at when he doesn't tell us what's happening. Now he's being moaned at because he is telling us what's happening, even though he actually isn't.

You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't, and you're damned to be accused of doing so even if you're not.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 08:33:40
I agree I don't think Power has done anything wrong or handled anything in the incorrect way regarding this saga at all.

I am not a fan of Powers methods but he has done nothing wrong whatsoever in our search for a new manager and any moaning is just moaning for moans sake, another stick to beat Power with.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 08:47:45
I agree I don't think Power has done anything wrong or handled anything in the incorrect way regarding this saga at all.

I am not a fan of Powers methods but he has done nothing wrong whatsoever in our search for a new manager and any moaning is just moaning for moans sake, another stick to beat Power with.
This!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 09:31:57
I agree I don't think Power has done anything wrong or handled anything in the incorrect way regarding this saga at all.

I am not a fan of Powers methods but he has done nothing wrong whatsoever in our search for a new manager and any moaning is just moaning for moans sake, another stick to beat Power with.

Absolutely, only need to go through last couple of pages to see that


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 09:48:52
Completely agree PV


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 09:50:58
Absolutely, only need to go through last couple of pages to see that

I've been through the last couple of pages, there is literally 1 post wishing it had been kept quiet, and several saying it had.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bathford on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 10:37:51
Adver Sports Desk‏ @AdverSport  23m23 minutes ago
More
 Mansfield Town manager Steve Evans 'honoured' by approach from Swindon Town but committed to #Stags
#stfc


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 10:44:16
It's done. Let us move on.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 10:44:30
Adver Sports Desk‏ @AdverSport  23m23 minutes ago
More
 Mansfield Town manager Steve Evans 'honoured' by approach from Swindon Town but committed to #Stags
#stfc

He loves a venison burger....

Well hopefully that puts that charade to bed and we can move on with the job in hand.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 10:47:09
Looking at Archibalds page on Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Archibald it appears that he played as a defender and thus one would hope has a clue about coaching a defence, something we haven't had for many a year.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 10:56:13
Looking at Archibalds page on Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Archibald it appears that he played as a defender and thus one would hope has a clue about coaching a defence, something we haven't had for many a year.
So did Malpas.... ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 10:59:39
I don't know where it's come from, but it's coming from somewhere.  Why not just keep things quiet about who we're speaking to until there's something concrete to avoid all the speculation?  Other clubs seem to manage it.

There were rumours for weeks about Paul Sturrock after Wise left 11 years ago. Did you moan about that, too?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 11:07:56
So did Malpas.... ;)

Poor old Maurice Malpas. There's an example of a manager who didn't receive the full support of our fans at any stage. He was rubbish though.

Back-to-back cup losses to Histon and Brighton ended Malpas' dour reign. Talk about contrast in fortunes Brighton now Premier League and Histon's bubble burst quite quickly.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 11:19:18
Thank God Evans is not coming here. Best news of the day.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 11:20:52
Poor old Maurice Malpas. There's an example of a manager who didn't receive the full support of our fans at any stage. He was rubbish though.

Back-to-back cup losses to Histon and Brighton ended Malpas' dour reign. Talk about contrast in fortunes Brighton now Premier League and Histon's bubble burst quite quickly.
I don't think management suited him unfortunately, he had 2 seasons at at 2 clubs both with similar 31% win ratios, hes obviously a better coach than manager....sounds like someone else who left us recently.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 11:21:19
The Trust are having an open meeting o the 24th May at MECA.

I would urge all who are able and have STFC in their blood, to get along to this. I don't think the club has been in a worse state in my time.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 11:21:36
With Power's record, I'd argue Evans was never a realistic target. As mentioned by a few others he has a record of doing it in the past with players (Goldson, Bradshaw.) The bids I think were described as measly & laughable at the time but I think it was his way of showing fans ambition with the hope of putting a few more bums on seats. Not a bad idea, as even I got excited at the thought of a name manager coming in at Town but you can only use that card so many times before people see through it.

Happily eat my words if he is appointed but would be surprised.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 11:24:45
I don't think the club has been in a worse state in my time.
Worse than Diamandis and Brady? hmmm I am not so sure.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 11:36:44
Worse than Diamandis and Brady? hmmm I am not so sure.

In many ways yes.  Diamond Mike was the unacceptable face of SSW, the club still held AGM's and sessions where fans could meet the manager, open days etc.

I'll grant you Brady and mates were bad news, but they didn't hang around for long once it was obvious they weren't going to make fantastic sums of money from the club, leaving SSW to pick up the pieces.

You always felt with SSW, that although not well suited to owning an FC, he was basically a fan with the interests of the club at heart.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 11:44:59
In many ways yes.  Diamond Mike was the unacceptable face of SSW, the club still held AGM's and sessions where fans could meet the manager, open days etc.

I'll grant you Brady and mates were bad news, but they didn't hang around for long once it was obvious they weren't going to make fantastic sums of money from the club, leaving SSW to pick up the pieces.

You always felt with SSW, that although not well suited to owning an FC, he was basically a fan with the interests of the club at heart.
But he delegated the running of the club to Diamandis who ran it into the ground in the interests of securing the pay-off he always felt he was entitled to. The club was so badly run at that time that it was repeatedly in danger of going out of existence and no amount of AGMs where we could ask pointed questions which would be ignored/fobbed off anyway makes up for that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 11:55:30
But he delegated the running of the club to Diamandis who ran it into the ground in the interests of securing the pay-off he always felt he was entitled to. The club was so badly run at that time that it was repeatedly in danger of going out of existence and no amount of AGMs where we could ask pointed questions which would be ignored/fobbed off anyway makes up for that.

As bad as it was, I still feel things are worse atm.

The Trust meeting is so say to get updates on Trust matters....but I can't help feeling there will be fans who want to ask questions about the direction Power is taking the club and how the Trust should react.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:04:48
Anyway....back to the manager stuff.

I still wouldn't be surprised to see Hockaday as the next manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:10:56
As bad as it was, I still feel things are worse atm.

The Trust meeting is so say to get updates on Trust matters....but I can't help feeling there will be fans who want to ask questions about the direction Power is taking the club and how the Trust should react.

Power isn't as open as previous owners but the club is far from in a worse position than ever before, if we take what Power says on face value then the club is operating profitably with no (or small amount of) debt which is owed to him. This means if he was to walk away then the club could realistically run itself as there would be no creditors banging at the door wanting payment.

Unfortunately a small group of fans have had a vendetta against Power since day one based on his previous history without no one knowing full facts. He came out and said he is here to make money but they took that as he will asset strip the club down to bare bones and then fuck off with the season ticket money in August! 3 years in and it hasn't happened yet.

In an ideal world he would be way more open about the finances of the club but he is under no obligation to do that and the numbers can easily be cooked to look better than they are to please the fans, and the majority wouldn't be able to understand what the difference between an operating and pre-tax profit is. How many clubs actually tell their fans the full finances that are owned by 1 owner and not have a board.

I get that some fans are worried but on the surface everything looks like it's ticking along nicely as we haven't done a Bury or Orient and had HMRC (or other creditors) getting the club in court over unpaid bills, until that happens then I am of the mindset that the ones who say that we are in deep shit don't know what they are talking about.

In the long term I would like to see more transparency, possibly someone from the trust on the board and a bit more fan relations from Power but realistically I can't see it happening anytime soon.

No news is good news supposedly  ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:11:34
Anyway....back to the manager stuff.

I still wouldn't be surprised to see Hockaday as the next manager.

Don't say that, the FB group will start an online riot with their thumbs  :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:12:33
The Trust are having an open meeting o the 24th May at MECA.

I would urge all who are able and have STFC in their blood, to get along to this. I don't think the club has been in a worse state in my time.

Hahaha. it's not even close to being in the worst state in my time and i'm a lot younger than you Reg.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:16:17
As bad as it was, I still feel things are worse atm.

The Trust meeting is so say to get updates on Trust matters....but I can't help feeling there will be fans who want to ask questions about the direction Power is taking the club and how the Trust should react.
You really do talk utter crap don't you! For years I've tried to work out weather you are trolling or just have the most gloomy outlook on things..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:18:38
Probably the least engaged with the fans that I can remember, not that all previous engagement was good.

Probably the worst direction we've taken on the pitch for a long time. Let's see if that continues.

But no evidence that in terms of financial stability we are anywhere near the worst we've been. At least not while Power it's here.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:22:24
You really do talk utter crap don't you! For years I've tried to work out weather you are trolling or just have the most gloomy outlook on things..

So you don't think there are fans who will want to ask questions about the direction is taking the club. Fair enough maybe you don't get out much, but the underlying vibe I get from chatting with many Town fans of long standing is one of discontent.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:23:17
What the fuck does this have to do with a new manager?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:23:47
So you don't think there are fans who will want to ask questions about the direction is taking the club. Fair enough maybe you don't get out much, but the underlying vibe I get from chatting with many Town fans of long standing is one of discontent.

You haven't been on the train from Stroud have you?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:28:28
What the fuck does this have to do with a new manager?

Everything. Pick a Ramsey, Drummey, or a Vivaesh and it kills expectations and resets it to more 'kids football', which is surely the crux of most of the issues fans have.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:28:51
So you don't think there are fans who will want to ask questions about the direction is taking the club. Fair enough maybe you don't get out much, but the underlying vibe I get from chatting with many Town fans of long standing is one of discontent.
Come on Reg, that's 6th form debating society level stuff. theakston and others objected to your OTT characterisation of the current state of affairs as being the worst state the club's ever been in. No-one suggested that there isn't discontent, of course there is, and rightly so. Or that people shouldn't be asking questions. Absolutely they should and you are right that the Trust is probably a good vehicle to do so. FH will know the right term for your "if you don't agree with my extreme characterisation, then you must be absolutely happy with everything" argument, but it's specious and you know it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:37:31
There is only discontent because the quality of players have diminished year on year, which makes people think of asset stripping but you only have to look at how the club was left by Black that it was inevitable the new owner(s) would come in and cut costs because there is no way that a L1 team should be overspending by £5m a year on wages. We had championship level budget in L1/2 and didn't get promoted so it was always going to happen.

Power has supposedly got that overspend down and now are running at close to break even but the players we have on the budget we had wasn't good enough and the manager / coach didn't do enough to keep us in the league. Power has come out and said the right things since relegation (I got it wrong) and (new manager will have full control over recruitment) so I am optimistic that he has learnt a very valuable lesson and that he was trying to do everything where as delegating tasks out to those more experienced is always wiser.

The next 3 days will tell if what he has said, will happen.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:39:04
Though in general I’m quite frustrated with Power’s communication and PR,  I do think on this issue his hands are tied.

Approaching a manager employed by another club, whether realistic or not, is always going to be a precarious and tricky business. Something that can’t be done while giving constant updates to interested observers. Not least because of the potential for ‘tapping up’ accusations.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:42:50
Everything. Pick a Ramsey, Drummey, or a Vivaesh and it kills expectations and resets it to more 'kids football', which is surely the crux of most of the issues fans have.
OR give whoever is appointed a fair chance and judge them based on their recruitment, style of play and results.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:48:07
Come on Reg, that's 6th form debating society level stuff. theakston and others objected to your OTT characterisation of the current state of affairs as being the worst state the club's ever been in. No-one suggested that there isn't discontent, of course there is, and rightly so. Or that people shouldn't be asking questions. Absolutely they should and you are right that the Trust is probably a good vehicle to do so. FH will know the right term for your "if you don't agree with my extreme characterisation, then you must be absolutely happy with everything" argument, but it's specious and you know it.

Theakston's reply was a response to my suggestioin that some fans at the Trust meeting might want to ask questions on the general drift of the club, not just Trust matters...which he considered utter crap.

My opinion that the club is in a worse state now....is just that my opinion. I'm quite happy to debate why I've arrived at the conclusion.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 12:59:12
OR give whoever is appointed a fair chance and judge them based on their recruitment, style of play and results.

Yes of course. It would be foolish to jump on a managers back straight away.

But I'm really sick to death of a million and one loans and castoffs, tippy tappy shit, and an inability to defend or attack.

But don't ask me to be immediately thrilled at type of manager being appointed that would appear to be in place to continue this. I need proof before belief. I bet I'm not alone.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 13:03:49
OR give whoever is appointed a fair chance and judge them based on their recruitment, style of play and results.

It will never catch on....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 13:05:27
Yes of course. It would be foolish to jump on a managers back straight away.

But I'm really sick to death of a million and one loans and castoffs, tippy tappy shit, and an inability to defend or attack.

But don't ask me to be immediately thrilled at type of manager being appointed that would appear to be in place to continue this. I need proof before belief. I bet I'm not alone.



This


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 13:05:27
Back to the point about Evans; our initial approach at least got us some attention and I wonder if more candidates have come forward as a result.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 13:11:30
Back to the point about Evans; our initial approach at least got us some attention and I wonder if more candidates have come forward as a result.

Think AA is the next logical choice, as he has basically said in the press "come and get me", there is also the chance that Cotterill could be tempted, as he has supposedly applied for the job twice previously and is now out of a job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 13:17:45
In defense of Reg, whilst the club might be on a more stable footing (as we are led to believe) the club is fundamentally broken on the pitch as a result of Power assembling one of the worst squads in living memory. He has little interest in engaging with the fan base, his appointment of Sherwood was shambolic, we have a limited budget, stale football, few salable assets and to top that off he has a shady history which will always leave big question marks over his intentions. At this moment it is hard to be optimistic. Yes, that may change over the summer but at this moment I can see why Reg and other Town fans feel the way they do.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 13:25:23
stale football, few salable assets and to top that off he has a shady history which will always leave big question marks over his intentions.

Is this not entirely contradictory?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 13:37:17
Is this not entirely contradictory?

Why, are his intentions to have few salable assets and stale football?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 13:57:58
In defense of Reg, whilst the club might be on a more stable footing (as we are led to believe) the club is fundamentally broken on the pitch as a result of Power assembling one of the worst squads in living memory. He has little interest in engaging with the fan base, his appointment of Sherwood was shambolic, we have a limited budget, stale football, few salable assets and to top that off he has a shady history which will always leave big question marks over his intentions. At this moment it is hard to be optimistic. Yes, that may change over the summer but at this moment I can see why Reg and other Town fans feel the way they do.
I'm one of them. Completely agree with all the above. Just don't think it required the leap into hyperbole of Comic Book Guy style "Worst. State. Ever." Which served to undermine, rather than reinforce, what I suspect was his main point, to urge fans to attend the Trust meeting and use it as a platform to (indirectly) ask questions of the regime


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:15:51
I'm one of them. Completely agree with all the above. Just don't think it required the leap into hyperbole of Comic Book Guy style "Worst. State. Ever." Which served to undermine, rather than reinforce, what I suspect was his main point, to urge fans to attend the Trust meeting and use it as a platform to (indirectly) ask questions of the regime

Let me rephrase it then...

The Trust are having an open meeting on the 24th May at MECA.

I would urge all who are able and have STFC in their blood, to get along to this. I don't think the club has been in a worse state in my time, but there are other posters who disagree.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:16:54
Why, are his intentions to have few salable assets and stale football?

Spending millions on a business with very few if any assets seems to be a very stupid business plan for someone who is apparently trying to asset strip the club?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:19:57
Let me rephrase it then...

The Trust are having an open meeting on the 24th May at MECA.

I would urge all who are able and have STFC in their blood, to get along to this. I don't think the club has been in a worse state in my time, but there are other posters who disagree.



I still don't really see why this has a place in a thread which should be all about Sheena Easton, Steve Lomas and other ridiculous suggestions.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:23:37
Broken club...spot on.
A one man board,a man who sees the club as a business,not mega wealthy,had connections but seem to be running out of them.
Not able to be at the club day in day out,got other interests.
That leaves us with no manager,one player yes one player worth a transfer fee,a ground that needs attention and to make it worse tries to get a manager most of our fans detest.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:25:39
Think AA is the next logical choice, as he has basically said in the press "come and get me", there is also the chance that Cotterill could be tempted, as he has supposedly applied for the job twice previously and is now out of a job.

Christian from Facebook is probably about a credible source as bookies odds


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:26:56
In defense of Reg, whilst the club might be on a more stable footing (as we are led to believe) the club is fundamentally broken on the pitch as a result of Power assembling one of the worst squads in living memory. He has little interest in engaging with the fan base, his appointment of Sherwood was shambolic, we have a limited budget, stale football, few salable assets and to top that off he has a shady history which will always leave big question marks over his intentions. At this moment it is hard to be optimistic. Yes, that may change over the summer but at this moment I can see why Reg and other Town fans feel the way they do.
What is our budget and what style of football will our new manager play


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:28:24
What is it they say about getting a good indication of people if you see how they react to adversity?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:35:24
Spending millions on a business with very few if any assets seems to be a very stupid business plan for someone who is apparently trying to asset strip the club?

At no point did I mention Asset stripping nor did I say he should spend millions. I've just pointed out his intentions will always be questioned by some as his history is shady.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:39:40
What is our budget and what style of football will our new manager play

As I've said already

That may change over the summer

And it's well known our budget was one of the smaller ones in League 1. Power has said in the past if attendances go down so does the budget and as he’s already stated relegation will cost the club around £1 million so I think he will amend accordingly. He hasn’t said anything to date to say that won’t be the case.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:42:49
At no point did I mention Asset stripping nor did I say he should spend millions. I've just pointed out his intentions will always be questioned by some as his history is shady.

That's the problem, they put 1 + 1 and get 4. If they read into his past, it doesn't seem so bad but because of the way the past has been published, there will be a few that will always be vocal against Power.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:49:43
Broken club...spot on.
A one man board,a man who sees the club as a business,not mega wealthy,had connections but seem to be running out of them.
Not able to be at the club day in day out,got other interests.
That leaves us with no manager,one player yes one player worth a transfer fee,a ground that needs attention and to make it worse tries to get a manager most of our fans detest.

The ground isn't his fault.
Pretty sure we're not a one-man board (can someone else confirm?)
Most owners aren't day-to-day running the club, hence CEOs, MDs General Managers etc (which we have)

But other than that....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:51:36
Hockaday I tell you! Hockaday!

He scored against Peter Shilton with a cross-come-shot I'll have you know!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:54:25
I don't see why the Trust would want, or have, any input into how the club operates on the field of play and through it's management chain.  To do so would muddy the waters they are just beginning to clear which is a primary focus on an aim to secure the ground as an asset for the fanbase/community.  The Trust has no place in being a sounding board for fan frustration ate how the footballing side of the club performs, unless it wants to usurp that previous target and aim for club ownership.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 14:56:29
Bloody hell Reg!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:05:48
If they read into his past, it doesn't seem so bad
It's not great. TBF, not so much him as some of the people he's been associated with (Cousins et al) but he does seem to be "Johnny on the spot" quite a bit when bad shit happens around football clubs and failed property deals. Assuming you've looked into his past of course?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:08:40
I don't see why the Trust would want, or have, any input into how the club operates on the field of play and through it's management chain.  To do so would muddy the waters they are just beginning to clear which is a primary focus on an aim to secure the ground as an asset for the fanbase/community.  The Trust has no place in being a sounding board for fan frustration ate how the footballing side of the club performs, unless it wants to usurp that previous target and aim for club ownership.
True, but the lack of communication, "in-out-shake-it-all-about" shit around Sherwood's role, questions about budget, WTF is going on with the training ground and what is the proposed model for ownership of it etc are all questions around running of the club that would fall within the Trust's remit. And tbf it is Power who has muddied the waters between the football and non-football sides by being an owner with a very hands on role in what goes on on the pitch


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:12:30
I don't see why the Trust would want, or have, any input into how the club operates on the field of play and through it's management chain.  To do so would muddy the waters they are just beginning to clear which is a primary focus on an aim to secure the ground as an asset for the fanbase/community.  The Trust has no place in being a sounding board for fan frustration ate how the footballing side of the club performs, unless it wants to usurp that previous target and aim for club ownership.

Exactly but there is a vocal minority trying to use the trust as a way to get people to voice their "displeasure" with the current regime and keep bringing up comments such as "why can't the trust buy out the crooked cunt".

One of the stupider "ideas" they have come up with was that the trust charge the club (Power) "millions" to use the CG (when bought), force him to sell up and then buy the club cheap

They seem to think the grass will be greener without Power in charge (as he is milking millions from the club) and the club will then have "millions" to spend on the team.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:13:14
It might be Steve Lomas or Sheena Easton.

But I think it will more likely be Hockaday.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:14:41
It's not great. TBF, not so much him as some of the people he's been associated with (Cousins et al) but he does seem to be "Johnny on the spot" quite a bit when bad shit happens around football clubs and failed property deals. Assuming you've looked into his past of course?

Yep, because I wanted to know what the club was getting itself into

Creat8 went into liquidation after being sued by Arsenal (after a poor contract)

Wasn't owner of Rushden, was only the DoF and left 2 years before they went bust

Bought a hotel in Peterborough and then closed it down as it was unprofitable

 :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:15:21
What about Belial ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:15:49
Maybe Behemoth ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:16:09
Or even Beelzebub ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:16:51
Could be Asmodeus, Satanas or Lucifer

But I think most likely Hockaday !


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:18:35
True, but the lack of communication, "in-out-shake-it-all-about" shit around Sherwood's role, questions about budget, WTF is going on with the training ground and what is the proposed model for ownership of it etc are all questions around running of the club that would fall within the Trust's remit. And tbf it is Power who has muddied the waters between the football and non-football sides by being an owner with a very hands on role in what goes on on the pitch

What more can he say about the training ground? The club released details they were looking at land, then released details of the land they bought and they were talking to the Eady Trust about how to use the money, they have now supposedly made an agreement with the ET and have started the process to get planning permission.

I don't disagree on the latter part but Black being "hands off" caused him to leave as he had no control over what his money was being spent on, Power has probably taken it too the extreme of being too hands on hence bringing in Sherwood to do some of the jobs Power was doing but they never really publicised what Sherwood's role was so fans are being critical as they haven't seen any reason for him being there.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:22:45
True, but the lack of communication, "in-out-shake-it-all-about" shit around Sherwood's role, questions about budget, WTF is going on with the training ground and what is the proposed model for ownership of it etc are all questions around running of the club that would fall within the Trust's remit. And tbf it is Power who has muddied the waters between the football and non-football sides by being an owner with a very hands on role in what goes on on the pitch

True, just think the Trust has found something useful to do for the first time since being a useful tool to provide outsiders with a light to shine on the mismanagement of Diamandis and presenting an alternative future.  Would be a shame to ruin that by spending hours debating who we want as Manager when nobody can agree anyway and nobody has a say anyway and in doing so it would only serve to confuse issues for the Trust.  Wrong channel - I'm not saying the right channels exist or are useful though.

And clearly the club is not in the worst state it has ever been, assuming we use club to cover the entire entity.  The team may be one of the worst ever assembled, but the little financial info we can get shows otherwise off the field (oh, and half the clubs in L1 release the same basic financial info we do).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:23:42
Scott Parker didn't make it on the pitch in either of Fulham's play off games... just sayin'.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:24:07
Yep, because I wanted to know what the club was getting itself into

Creat8 went into liquidation after being sued by Arsenal (after a poor contract)

Wasn't owner of Rushden, was only the DoF and left 2 years before they went bust

Bought a hotel in Peterborough and then closed it down as it was unprofitable

 :)
That's an extremely positive spin on his past career, to say the least. Equally, you are right that there's a lot of 2+2=5 from some of Power's critics. You seem to have swayed almost as far in the other direction


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:24:40
True, just think the Trust has found something useful to do for the first time since being a useful tool to provide outsiders with a light to shine on the mismanagement of Diamandis and presenting an alternative future.  Would be a shame to ruin that by spending hours debating who we want as Manager when nobody can agree anyway and nobody has a say anyway and in doing so it would only serve to confuse issues for the Trust.  
Completely agree. If nothing else there's no need to spend hours debating about the new manager when Sheena is so clearly the person for the job :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:26:20
Oh, and on his past record, include Cambridge - he made a bit of a mess of that one and some of the hallmarks are very similar in his handling of the situation.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:29:51
 I don't think the Trust can do something useful and just ignore the owner of the club, as if not there.  Makes no sense.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:31:09
Oh, and on his past record, include Cambridge - he made a bit of a mess of that one and some of the hallmarks are very similar in his handling of the situation.

There is very little available that I can find that went on there but he was supposedly DoF and then became manager temporarily, then quit after falling out with the directors.

This happened after trying to buy out Luton Town

It's so easy to see oh that club went bust and he was there, but when you look into the finer details, it's far from what it initially looked like.

I am not saying he is a saint, far from it but there is always 3 sides to a story


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:32:58
I am not saying he is a saint, far from it but there is always 3 sides to a story
No, that's the part-finished Kassam stadium you're thinking of


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:34:05
No, that's the part-finished Kassam stadium you're thinking of

 :beers:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:51:57
ANYWAY WHO IS GOING TO BE THE NEW FUCKING MANAGER!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:53:00
Poor old Reg gets a kicking.

Reg was shot down most of the season and looks like he still is.

But the fact for this past season is that the pessimists were right.

So, where are the green shoots?

Williams and Co going was a start...long way to go before I even look forward to the fixtures coming out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 15:53:39
Easton.....no not Sheena. Craig, as new manager.
Michael....no not Jackson. Pook, as assistant.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: random_five on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 16:01:32
Keith Hill's odds have shortened significantly.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 16:08:30
ANYWAY WHO IS GOING TO BE THE NEW FUCKING MANAGER!

Lets hope Steve Cotterill fancies a chat and is willing to drop to L2, it would concern me if we appointed the scottish fella as he has not real knowledge of the english league and he will have a complete team to rebuild to double quick time and wont geta honeymoon period I feel a more experienced manager of the english league would


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 16:09:23
It might be Steve Lomas or Sheena Easton.

But I think it will more likely be Hockaday.
If that is or only option, I'd sooner it be Sheena Easton with Loans as assistant.
Hockaday doesn't inspire me whatsoever!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 16:10:51
Pretty sure we're not a one-man board (can someone else confirm?)

We don't even have a boardroom now, its been converted to just be director hospitality.

Probably not far off none, but we do have one. Whether its impartial and provides the necessary accountability is another matter.

I see Sangita is still listed...
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/club/whoswho/


Keith Hill's odds have shortened significantly.

Oh god.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 16:13:22
Quote
Quote
Yesterday was the first time that my chairman spoke to me, saying that they had an approach from the people at Swindon Town.

“As a manager and a football man, you are always honoured when you have an approach from another team, whether you are a manager or a player, because it perhaps signals that a good job is being done and people recognise what you can do for them.

“The reality of it all is that the chairman and chief executive made it very clear to me in my conversations with them that they were not going to sanction any approach for me to be involved in any discussions because they have brought me in to make a big difference to their football club.

“I have always respected every chairman I worked for. I have always shook hands on things agreed and unless a chairman moves the goalposts, I have always been very very loyal.

“So from my point of view it is business as normal.

Read more at http://www.mansfieldtown.net/news/artic ... CZGxHfQ.99


I know you have to be careful reading too much into things and I know that this statement will appease a lot of people but to me that basically says that 'The chairman wont let me go so I've got to honour my contract.'

Not only that but there's another very sly dig about the Chairman 'not moving goalposts' otherwise he's off. Every interview he has conducted has a caveat to it.

I know this is Steve Evans playing the game but I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

Considering HE is not coming, THEY are up to nearly 200 posts and are still talking about HIM. This one was quite interesting and it kind of rings true. There could still be more in this.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 16:43:11
Keith Hill's odds have shortened significantly.

He'd be brilliant.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 16:44:43
Theakston's reply was a response to my suggestioin that some fans at the Trust meeting might want to ask questions on the general drift of the club, not just Trust matters...which he considered utter crap.

My opinion that the club is in a worse state now....is just that my opinion. I'm quite happy to debate why I've arrived at the conclusion.
My gripe was that you describe us as being in our worst state ever and that is utter crap and you know it. Under Diamandis we had winding up orders every other week, players not being paid, Administration and Ben Lambert coming on here and sending emails threatening us with legal action. We're not even close to that or the 3k league crowd we got against Cambridge when SSW, his twat of a son and Diamandis were involved!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 16:56:21
Cant see why Hill would want to come here.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 16:57:11
Wait, am I getting Keith Hill and Garry Hill mixed up?!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 16:59:36
What odds is Hill now then?
Would be brilliant, can't see it though. There were rumours earlier in the week Rochdale were giving him a new deal to fend of interest from Wigan.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 17:02:58
My gripe was that you describe us as being in our worst state ever and that is utter crap and you know it. Under Diamandis we had winding up orders every other week, players not being paid, Administration and Ben Lambert coming on here and sending emails threatening us with legal action. We're not even close to that or the 3k league crowd we got against Cambridge when SSW, his twat of a son and Diamandis were involved!

Indeed those were dark days, yet somehow, it did still feel as if there was a football club in there somewhere worth saving...hence the whole orange protest.

A club is more than just a balance sheet....atm I look at it at see next to nothing I can relate to, aside from the fans and even here many a long standing season ticket holder have had enough.

Of course we may bounce back from the present nadir, it has happened before.

 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 17:11:19
Just getting too old Reg, are you sure you haven't had a small cycling incident around Liden Lagoon recently?

Hill would be a good choice


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 17:13:13
Indeed those were dark days, yet somehow, it did still feel as if there was a football club in there somewhere worth saving...hence the whole orange protest.



The club is still there, and unlike the Diamandis days is unlikely to be wound up in the next 48 hours. That period coincided with my first period of working away from the main office for a prolonged period of time and I have very vivid memories of various afternoons locked away on my own in a site office updating this site very 5 minutes to see if we had been wound up or changed hands....


even here many a long standing season ticket holder have had enough.


Considering how shit our crowds were for much of the Diamandis period they were not that long standing?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 17:19:13
FH will know the right term for your "if you don't agree with my extreme characterisation, then you must be absolutely happy with everything" argument, but it's specious and you know it.

His comment was a strawman fallacy, deliberate or otherwise. He may have constructed the strawman intentionally because it's an easier target to attack. Either that, or he is genuinely unaware he committed a fallacy at all...

Cognitive distortion is a psychological phenomena that pretty much blinds people to the whole picture. There's a list here of how it manifests itself, and there's several on the list that fit Reg to a tee. Polarised thinking is the particular term we're looking for in this instance. https://psychcentral.com/lib/15-common-cognitive-distortions/ I expect Ells would know more about it than I do.

It's thought to be a by-product of evolution in that there was a need for a fight or flight reaction in order to aid survival. For example, trying to weigh up the situation when faced with a poisonous snake in the wild instead of assuming the worst could end up in disaster.

To be fair to Reg, it is very common. I come upon it on pretty much a daily basis and it can be so blatant that one often wonders if I'm just dealing with a troll. Apparently though, people do genuinely struggle with it. Lot's of them.

I don't know if you actually wanted an answer, but there it is :D

Oh, and I actually have him on ignore which is proving to be futile because you cunts keep quoting him ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 17:20:00
The club is still there, and unlike the Diamandis days is unlikely to be wound up in the next 48 hours. That period coincided with my first period of working away from the main office for a prolonged period of time and I have very vivid memories of various afternoons locked away on my own in a site office updating this site very 5 minutes to see if we had been wound up or changed hands....

Considering how shit our crowds were for much of the Diamandis period they were not that long standing?

When was the last time you visited the CG? 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 17:28:50
When was the last time you visited the CG? 

Not sure of the relevance, but I honestly couldn't tell you, the 240 mile each way trip kind of makes it very difficult and I have little incentive to go south of Birmingham these days unless for work?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 17:29:47
Reg, putting aside the quality of the team, what was our smallest home league crowd in 2005/6 vs 2016/17?  That's a good barometer to how people feel in terms of engagement with the club.  Add that to the balance sheet and P&L account, and cash flow (none of which can be ignored because we've been a business since a date back when you remember).

There is a good case for the on field problems being close to club equaling poor, and the New Manager, some Brazilian called Gaffer would be good, will be key to how that develops.  I don't see that as a Trust issue though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 17:49:17
Reg, putting aside the quality of the team, what was our smallest home league crowd in 2005/6 vs 2016/17?  That's a good barometer to how people feel in terms of engagement with the club.  Add that to the balance sheet and P&L account, and cash flow (none of which can be ignored because we've been a business since a date back when you remember).

There is a good case for the on field problems being close to club equaling poor, and the New Manager, some Brazilian called Gaffer would be good, will be key to how that develops.  I don't see that as a Trust issue though.

05/06.... 4,100 for a Tuesday night after we lost 7-1 at Forest

16/17.... 6,100 several of these or near enough

The trust wish to buy the CG, but the CG is not just a piece of real estate it exists to showcase the product of STFC and atm that product is  not as it should be.

It's legitimate for the Trust to ask the owner of the club of his plans to improve the product, or not as the case may be.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 18:03:29
Keith Hill's odds have shortened significantly.
Apparently hes been approched by Wigan according to the Dale forum.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 19:19:37
Steve Cotterill now 5/1 - 3rd favourite.


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 19:20:53
Steve Cotterill now 5/1 - 3rd favourite.
It's becoming clear that the bookies have as little idea as we do.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 19:48:47
https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/20715921


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 19:54:13
Keith Hill isn't even listed


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 19:57:06
Keith Hill isn't even listed

That's how likely to manage Swindon he is.....

Cotterill has shot up the list.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 20:05:57
And this list shows just how nonsensical it all is

https://m.oddschecker.com/t/football/football-specials/swindon/next-permanent-manager


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 20:06:39
Cotterill makes me want to cut myself. He's possibly the manager I dislike the most. I think I'd rather have a Lawrie Sanchez and Paul Hart dream team. I know I wouldn't really, but fucking hell I'd hate listening to that remedial trying to form sentences after a match.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 21:40:16
Cotterill makes me want to cut myself. He's possibly the manager I dislike the most. I think I'd rather have a Lawrie Sanchez and Paul Hart dream team. I know I wouldn't really, but fucking hell I'd hate listening to that remedial trying to form sentences after a match.

That's my thoughts too. Plus I'd be waiting for him to have a full on getting sacked/resigning meltdown after every game.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: joteddyred on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 22:23:29
There were rumours for weeks about Paul Sturrock after Wise left 11 years ago. Did you moan about that, too?

Oh why don't you just fuck off? I'm sick of you targeting me for every comment I make.

It's not as if I even post on here much anymore, but every time I do, you're there with a snide comment or dig.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 23:19:59
Still think it might be Hockaday


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 23:23:52
Does anyone think it could be Hockaday?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 23:42:30
Hockaday would be about the most underwhelming appointment we could make.

Doesn't rule him out though does it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 17, 2017, 23:57:37
Oh why don't you just fuck off? I'm sick of you targeting me for every comment I make.

It's not as if I even post on here much anymore, but every time I do, you're there with a snide comment or dig.



Do I?  It's not personal, I just tend to like pointing out whingy hyperbole types. Sorry if the boot fits.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 07:20:52
Do people say Hockaday because they genuinely think it'll be him or because as long as it's not Hockaday then they won't be too disappointed?

Poor Dave. Loyal servant for Town filed under 'cheap option, avoid' even when he's not linked.

If Power wants an Evans type then Cotterill has to be a possibility but he considers himself a second tier manager so I'd be surprised if he'd drop down to the fourth.

Plus the handbags during 2014-15.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 07:35:59
I keep saying it to get the topic back on track!

I wouldn't be surprised though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:01:06
If Hockadays team talks are as boring as his co-commentary we might have well have just kept Williams


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:05:51
We can't give it to Hockaday, his mixed idioms get right on my tits.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:17:34
Its going to be Hockaday. He knows the club, he knows Power, he has done some coaching for us under Power. Did well (ish) at Forest Gump Rovers, likes youth, is willing to work with mental owners as he did at Leeds.

Still don't think he has ever commentated on a Town game that we have won.

Do not want Cotterill as hes nuttier than squirrel shit and he had a go at Power and the club when he did commentary on the Swindon v MKD game on Sky, he hates us, he hates everyone, he is mentally touched.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wokinghamred on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:27:16
Its going to be Hockaday. He knows the club, he knows Power, he has done some coaching for us under Power. Did well (ish) at Forest Gump Rovers, likes youth, is willing to work with mental owners as he did at Leeds.

Still don't think he has ever commentated on a Town game that we have won.

Do not want Cotterill as hes nuttier than squirrel shit and he had a go at Power and the club when he did commentary on the Swindon v MKD game on Sky, he hates us, he hates everyone, he is mentally touched.

How can you compare them? One is a serious (if eccentric)  football manager, the other is a cheap Luke Williams replacement.

Dave Hockaday has my total respect as a former Swindon player, but he is not what we desperately need as a manger.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:34:47
Its going to be Hockaday. He knows the club, he knows Power, he has done some coaching for us under Power. Did well (ish) at Forest Gump Rovers, likes youth, is willing to work with mental owners as he did at Leeds.

Er, his managerial record is somewhat...dubious.





Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:39:29
And then there's the idioms. In the name of God, won't somebody please think of the idioms?!?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:42:35
We can't give it to Hockaday, his mixed idioms get right on my tits.

Yup, if we appoint Hockaday it will just add insult to the drawing board.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:44:29
Yup, if we appoint Hockaday it will just add insult to the drawing board.

Exactly, he's not my cup of fish.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:54:34
It'd be a barrel of amusement


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:56:03
Exactly, he's not my cup of fish.

He'd be a square peg in one basket


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:56:18
Er, his managerial record is somewhat...dubious.
50% win ratio at Coventry thats not to be sniffed at ;)

FWIW I was being sarcastic about Hockaday I think he would be a terrible appointment, but, we would no longer have to listen to his awful commentary at games, you give with one hand and take with the hot potato.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 08:57:41
Exactly, he's not my cup of fish.
Don't cry over a spilt cat.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 09:02:08
Glad to see we're all singing from the same tent peg


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 09:03:33
Do people say Hockaday because they genuinely think it'll be him or because as long as it's not Hockaday then they won't be too disappointed?

Poor Dave. Loyal servant for Town filed under 'cheap option, avoid' even when he's not linked.

If Power wants an Evans type then Cotterill has to be a possibility but he considers himself a second tier manager so I'd be surprised if he'd drop down to the fourth.

Plus the handbags during 2014-15.

Simply given Power's track record, if we are to have someone from the remaindered bin, then at least make it someone who might be just about competent.

Oh for a Paul Sturrock....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 09:05:16
Quote from: Peter Venkman
we would no longer have to listen to his awful commentary at games

the light at the end of the trees.

 Getting a bit previous though, let's burn that bridge when we come to it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bilko on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 09:36:59
Its not going to be an ex- stfc player but it is someone that you will all know - should be announced tomorrow.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 09:41:23
Its not going to be an ex- stfc player but it is someone that you will all know - should be announced tomorrow.

OK, assuming you do have a realiable source... would it be an appointment you'd be happy with?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 09:41:49
Its not going to be an ex- stfc player but it is someone that you will all know - should be announced tomorrow.

Someone on this list or not  :hmmm:

https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/20715921


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 09:50:49
Fatty Evans


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 09:51:31
Oh just tell us  ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:11:19
Oh just tell us  ;)
This, stop fannying around if you have any inside knowledge.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:15:31
Its not going to be an ex- stfc player but it is someone that you will all know - should be announced tomorrow.
If I say I'd be happy with Adkins, Jackett, Hasselbaink or Cotterill am I likely to be happy tomorrow?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:27:00
If I say I'd be happy with Adkins, Jackett, Hasselbaink or Cotterill am I likely to be happy tomorrow?  :hmmm:
Change Cotterill for McDermott and I will be happy with any of those, Archibald is probably high in the running now though after his "come and get me" statement this week.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:34:32
It's going to be Jock :no:, perm any one from two.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:36:23
A jock with a perm? Colin Hendry?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:36:56
Quote from: bilko
Its not going to be an ex- stfc player but it is someone that you will all know - should be announced tomorrow.

well it rules out Viveash and Hockaday I suppose, but not exactly Chang :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:37:10
Cotterill.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:37:26
A jock with a perm? Colin Hendry?

Thought he had a mullet!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:37:39
A jock with a perm? Colin Hendry?

Oh Yes ...

Or maybe a John Terry who could kick the shit out those lazy sods


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:40:04
A jock with a perm? Colin Hendry?

Rod Stewart?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:41:12
Rod Stewart?

I'm nervous to make a post now, bloody piss takers.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: hefty toe on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:49:26
I'd have a punt on Cotterill as he's just turned down the assistant manager job at Birmingham City. 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 10:58:06
A jock with a perm? Colin Hendry?

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/de/bc/6c/debc6c573c7f6be5314dc4ab04fdfab0.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:05:57
Now Reg, I didn't expect that of you ...

Archibald is the only name who has said he would be interested if approached.
It's going to be a jock with no-hair or straight hair.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:08:49
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/de/bc/6c/debc6c573c7f6be5314dc4ab04fdfab0.jpg)
How could it possibly be anyone else?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:10:19
Its.... (http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Steve+Lomas+Z3TXMg-DsZBm.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:13:35
It's going to be a jock with no-hair.

oh no...
(http://www.strathspey-herald.co.uk/imagelibrary/Client_Images/Client00007/02943000/02943956.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:17:27
Its.... (http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Steve+Lomas+Z3TXMg-DsZBm.jpg)
Fuckin' 'ell, Sheena's not aged well, has she?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:19:49
It's going to be Jock :no:, perm any one from two.

And a loan, any 5 from 7


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Trashbat? on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:33:34
A jock with no hair....Alex Neil?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:36:01
(http://e1.365dm.com/13/08/800x600/8820366_2994327.jpg?20140416163325)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:42:40
he's certainly 'bald


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:47:05
he's certainly 'bald
He is a bald 'bald Jock.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:47:59
A jock with no hair....Alex Neil?

The Norwich link


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:52:17
A jock with no hair....Alex Neil?

Our record of tonsorially challenged bosses, Jock or not is sketchy at best... I'm thinking McMahon, Iffy, Malpas, Hart, Luke.

Whereas the more luxuriantly coiffured gaffer offers up Head, Danny Williams, Bobby Smith, Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle, and even for a while Wilson and Cooper, all of whom had some success.

As ever Kingy presents something of a paradox.... a fine Scouse mullet while at Everton, but a baldy by the time he got the Town job. Was he a decent manager for us or not  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 11:59:37
Our record of tonsorially challenged bosses, Jock or not is sketchy at best... I'm thinking McMahon, Iffy, Malpas, Hart, Luke.

Whereas the more luxuriantly coiffured gaffer offers up Head, Danny Williams, Bobby Smith, Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle, and even for a while Wilson and Cooper, all of whom had some success.

As ever Kingy presents something of a paradox.... a fine Scouse mullet while at Everton, but a baldy by the time he got the Town job. Was he a decent manager for us or not  :hmmm:
Based on that I'd go hairy every time although I'd be extremely happy with Alex Neil.
I thought King was crap but not in the worst 5 in my 45 years watching Town.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 12:04:31
Based on that I'd go hairy every time although I'd be extremely happy with Alex Neil.
I thought King was crap but not in the worst 5 in my 45 years watching Town.
I agree on all of that, Neil would be a fairly good choice and King was bottom 10 for me but not quite bottom 5 in my 44 years or so of following us.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 12:12:09
Based on that I'd go hairy every time although I'd be extremely happy with Alex Neil.
I thought King was crap but not in the worst 5 in my 45 years watching Town.

Hairy or bald  :hmmm:

A key question of our times  :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 12:19:56
Was he a decent manager for us or not  :hmmm:

Good scout, crap manager. Got undone by going too "experienced" (i.e. knackered, especially Thorpe).

Not in the Malpas, Williams, Hart, To*d league of shitness, but the next rung up.

For me anyway



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 12:21:58
Hairy or bald  :hmmm:

A key question of our times  :)

That's a bit black and white. Nobody like a growler, but I don't get the obsession with completely bald either, we aren't 10.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 12:43:02
I've just been told that it's Evans.

It's from someone that knows our glorious leader, however they (or LP) could be winding me up


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 12:47:48
This, stop fannying around if you have any inside knowledge.
He claimed Archibald had already been interviewed for the job earlier in the week, which would have been highly unlikely as it was stated yesterday that no approach had been made.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 12:48:44
Based on that I'd go hairy every time although I'd be extremely happy with Alex Neil.
I thought King was crap but not in the worst 5 in my 45 years watching Town.

That mole Neil's got on his face is just annoying.

Reminds me of the Austin Power's sketch.

Anyone but the mole......


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 12:50:35
He claimed Archibald had already been interviewed for the job earlier in the week, which would have been highly unlikely as it was stated yesterday that no approach had been made.
True, he is probably trying to "pull a Chang on us"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ticker45 on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 12:57:00
Having read through 52 pages of guesswork/angst/humour/bollocks/misery, all I want is someone who can hit the ground running and hopefully put right all the last few seasons deficiencies in the coming months.

I do not really give a damn who it is, whether he has been mentioned on here, rumoured from some "source" or someone "in the know",but just a manager to get us up and competitive again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 13:04:37
Cotterill.

Get in. :pint:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 13:25:38
Get in. :pint:

What if he's reverse Chang'd you in a crazy double bluff.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 13:55:15
What if he's reverse Chang'd you in a crazy double bluff.
He could try to, but he'd still be wrong, he can't help himself. Chang is like a compass, he always points to "Wrong". It's hardwired into his very essence


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 14:57:33
I've just been told that it's Evans.

It's from someone that knows our glorious leader, however they (or LP) could be winding me up

Highly unlikely. He committed himself to Mansfield earlier in the week and has bought about 5 players. Why would he come here to make do with non league players, shit loans and anyone that hasn't. Sen signed by anyone else?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 15:09:36
Ive heard from the special voice in my wardrobe that it was going to be Evans as he was excited to work with talents like Branco and Barry.

He's pulled out now.  Something his Father should have done many years ago.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 15:14:10
Highly unlikely. He committed himself to Mansfield earlier in the week and has bought about 5 players. Why would he come here to make do with non league players, shit loans and anyone that hasn't. Sen signed by anyone else?

That's what I thought, which is why I think it might be a wind up.

Unless of course it's to increase the odds so that someone can put a wager on and rake in a few more quid ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 15:16:16
I'm impressed that Grim Reaper already knows what our squad will look like next season.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 15:27:46
I hear power has signed up the dream team of Dennis Wise & Gus Poyet with Mark Cooper as 1st team coach


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 15:43:11
Highly unlikely. He committed himself to Mansfield earlier in the week and has bought about 5 players.
Did he though? I thought that up until this bit in his statement:

 
Quote
I have always respected every chairman I worked for. I have always shook hands on things agreed and unless a chairman moves the goalposts, I have always been very, very loyal.

I'm not convinced that Evans is out of the picture yet and I reckon he would definitely have had discussions with Power. If the offer made to him is better than Mansfield's then his loyalty will be put to the test. The fact that Mansfield are signing lots of players would suggest that it would be difficult for him to say that the chairman has moved the goalposts mind.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 16:14:09
Mansfield have signed Lee Angol from Posh today. Unless Evans is planning on building two squads in one window I think it's safe to say we can rule him out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 16:20:37
Mansfield have signed Lee Angol from Posh today. Unless Evans is planning on building two squads in one window I think it's safe to say we can rule him out.

Conspiracy theorists will point out that he's not at the unveilings and talks about them like an outsider who's not making the deals.

I'm not the conspiracy theorist.

What Mansfield are doing isn't super common. They are not holding out for the 'auction' free agents that we seem to wait around for (and recently tend to lose out to)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 16:24:06
Evans is really just signing a load of shit for Masnfield so they struggle next season. He's saving the good signings for when he definitely joins us tomorrow.

Fact.

I can do conspiracy theories as well.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 16:27:38
What Mansfield are doing isn't super common. They are not holding out for the 'auction' free agents that we seem to wait around for (and recently tend to lose out to)

It's 11 weeks to the start of the new season.... 11 weeks ago were losing at home to the Spireites who finished 24th.

Someone is going to have to recruit more or less a full squad, get them fit and ready to gel into a fighting unit.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 16:36:26
Evans is really just signing a load of shit for Masnfield so they struggle next season. He's saving the good signings for when he definitely joins us tomorrow.


Where is your evidence???!! This is absurd  :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 16:48:11
It's 11 weeks to the start of the new season.... 11 weeks ago were losing at home to the Spireites who finished 24th.

Someone is going to have to recruit more or less a full squad, get them fit and ready to gel into a fighting unit.

We all know this, Reg.

My point is that it's not super common for clubs to do the majority of their business early on.

I'm not even criticising Mansfield.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 16:55:01
Where is your evidence???!! This is absurd  :D

Some bloke on the internet said so. Plus, I like the sound of it, so it must be true.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 16:55:35
We all know this, Reg.

My point is that it's not super common for clubs to do the majority of their business early on.

I'm not even criticising Mansfield.

We know why Power likes to leave it to the last minute....but we find ourselves in wholly exceptional circumstances.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:00:50
105 days till we start getting some loans and permanent players in :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:10:25
The Mansfield board have some.. Interesting theories as well. Suggesting we approached Evans just to unsettle them because they're going to be a force next season  :sherlock:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 18:37:57
The Mansfield board have some.. Interesting theories as well. Suggesting we approached Evans just to unsettle them because they're going to be a force next season  :sherlock:
The Mansfield forum suggest exactly the same thing. #deluded


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 18:44:02
It's 11 weeks to the start of the new season.... 11 weeks ago were losing at home to the Spireites who finished 24th.

Someone is going to have to recruit more or less a full squad, get them fit and ready to gel into a fighting unit.
How about this fella:

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/0c8130c7d766bf3fd6d5f01964421184946f3d63.jpg)


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 18:48:46
The Mansfield forum suggest exactly the same thing. #deluded
I think in this instance board and forum are the same thing?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 18:50:16
Yeah, you bopard!


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 18:50:46
I think in this instance board and forum are the same thing?

Yeah, apologies, I meant board as in message board.  :doh:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 18:54:23
Yeah, you bopard!
Ah I always use the term message board or forum, I assumed Ells meant the Mansfield board, my apologies :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 19:00:16
The Mansfield board have some.. Interesting theories as well. Suggesting we approached Evans just to unsettle them because they're going to be a force next season  :sherlock:

No, you're mistaking force for farse!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 19:03:07
Ah I always use the term message board or forum, I assumed Ells meant the Mansfield board, my apologies :)

Nah was my fault, lazy language! No doubt about the deluded part though..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bathford on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 19:04:35
Sorry if it's been asked before, but I can't find the answer.  Is tomorrow definately announcement day?  If so, what time can we expect it?  Thank you.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 19:05:00
It was amazing how quickly things escalated between both sets of supporters on the Evans news.

I remain convinced that this was nothing more than

Swindon: Can we talk to your manager
Mansfield: no
Swindon: please?
Mansfield: no
Swindon: how much will it cost for you to change your minds?
Mansfield: more than you can afford
Swindon: are you sure?
Mansfield: yes
Swindon: fuck

None of this tribalism or unsettling or attempted sabotage sort of stuff.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 19:08:18
Sorry if it's been asked before, but I can't find the answer.  Is tomorrow definately announcement day?  If so, what time can we expect it?  Thank you.

It's not official, there's been no time. I think the Beeb and the adver said there was to be an announcement expected in the next 8 days 7 days ago, and that makes it tomorrow.
And you know, #statementfriday


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 19:10:04
Nah was my fault, lazy language! No doubt about the deluded part though..
They do seem to think that Evans is the messiah and their chairman is as rich as Roman Abramovic.

(https://s11.postimg.org/6s3lqr3ab/hes-not-the-591de3.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 19:16:08
Sorry if it's been asked before, but I can't find the answer.  Is tomorrow definately announcement day?  If so, what time can we expect it?  Thank you.

The club said they hoped to make an announcement in 8 days, which would mean tomorrow. They didn't say they definitely will, or that they promise, but that they hope to. I'm sure that won't stop people kicking off calling Power a liar and all sorts of it doesn't, but that's their prerogative.

There seems to be rumours that it will be tomorrow, but whether that's just the original '8 days' comment being recycled remains to be seen. One Tefer seems sure that not only it is tomorrow, but also seems to think they know who it is.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 19:22:48
I'd forgotten what Evans had looked like.

Thanks a lot PV. I've not had dinner yet.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 19:23:01
I would like to think we could announce by tommorow but I feel that timescale was with us aiming for Evans becoming our manager.

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't until next week, then again its just another stick to beat the club with if they don't - for some.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 19:24:32
I'd forgotten what Evans had looked like.

Thanks a lot PV. I've not had dinner yet.
Sorry That should have carried a warning.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 20:33:31
Anybody watching Partick Thistle v Celtic ?  Partick's style wouldn't look out of place at the CG..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 20:34:53
Anybody watching Partick Thistle v Celtic ?  Partick's style wouldn't look out of place at the CG..

3-0 at half time. He should fit right in


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Friday, May 19, 2017, 00:34:34
Its not going to be an ex- stfc player but it is someone that you will all know - should be announced tomorrow.

Hmmmm. Are you Jeremy Corbyn? You certainly know how to draw a crowd...This better not be bolllocks  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leftside on Friday, May 19, 2017, 07:17:02
And on the 8th day the Almighty sounded trumpet and drum,
Calling followers and the bringers of false news to bear witness
To the unveiling of the new Messiah.
And so the new Messiah was brought forth.
And some were pleased,
Though some were whelmed, many were underwhelmed,
And many chanted the sacred credo: 'Meh'.
Yet many were malcontent:
The Blinded Priests in the Temple of the Book of Face took up their sticks
And did beat the Almighty from afar,
And did curse Him with venomous slander.
Yea, many did turn to look to the Hill of Prospect, gazing upon the Sage Reg, Hermit of the Hive of Bees,
For Reg was the Seer and Knower of all that was Past and all that will Become, and the Great Keeper of Hindsight,
And lo, Reg cast his face upon the Future and foretold the coming of Mighty Doom.
Again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 19, 2017, 07:20:50
I've read a good few cynical messages from Town fans over the last 24-48 hours regarding the timescales so for that reason I really hope we make an appointment today.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2017, 07:25:11
Quote from: Costanza
I've read a good few cynical messages from Town fans over the last 24-48 hours regarding the timescales so for that reasons I really hope we make an appointment today.
It is Friday, therefore it but bloody we'll be today for reasons of tradition.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, May 19, 2017, 07:27:17
(https://media.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpz81S7usvTIM8w/giphy-downsized-large.gif)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sippo on Friday, May 19, 2017, 07:50:14
That Power is a cock. It's nearly 8 o'clock in the am and still no announcement.

Power out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Friday, May 19, 2017, 07:51:29
Its not going to be an ex- stfc player but it is someone that you will all know - should be announced tomorrow.

....Di Canio?!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:45:41
What times the presser?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:46:16
Haven't seen anything saying there is one


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:02:18
If there was a press conference you'd have thought the media would have mentioned it. I can't see anything being accounced today unfortunately. Hope I'm wrong though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:05:20
yeah not looking likely is it. Think another week of not having anyone is fine, after that 'll be a bit more concerned simply because of the size of the squad rebuild needed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sippo on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:06:26
A lot of players/agents will be on their well deserved holidays anyway..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:39:14
I think Power was banking on the approach for Evans being accepted, I think the process will take a few more days yet but I would rather he appoint the right man that rush into something he and we will regret long term.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:39:25
FWIW, I heard the new man is . . .

Gary Bowyer of Blackpool. Can't be announced today as they are in the PO final.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:43:36
FWIW, I heard the new man is . . .

Gary Bowyer of Blackpool. Can't be announced today as they are in the PO final.

He suddenly hit the bookies lists yesterday so might be something in it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:45:42
Is he any good?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:47:39
Did OK ish  with Blackburn. On a one year rolling contract with Blackpool


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:50:27
Would tie in with the aforementioned 8 day timescale (had Blackpool lost yesterday)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:51:27
I think Power was banking on the approach for Evans being accepted, I think the process will take a few more days yet but I would rather he appoint the right man that rush into something he and we will regret long term.
This!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:52:24
Is he any good?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Bowyer

Not too bad, managed Blackburn adequately and doing well at Blackpool


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:52:58
Venkys....Oyston.....Power

Surely nobody is that desperate


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:54:17
I know Blackpool are a basket case, but they are a basket case potentially in L1. why would he come here to a club (if many are to be believed) is at least as bad as Blackpool if not worse?

Born in the north west and only ever managed in the north west I just don't see the draw?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:58:08
His dad was a good player.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2017, 11:02:30
Quote from: garethgillman
Quote
FWIW, I heard the new man is . . .

Gary Bowyer of Blackpool. Can't be announced today as they are in the PO final.
He suddenly hit the bookies lists yesterday so might be something in it

something in it = Audrey out a bet on :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 19, 2017, 11:05:01
His dad was a good player.

I seem to remember both Gary and Ian playing in a game together for Hereford... perhaps I imagined it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 11:07:58
I seem to remember both Gary and Ian playing in a game together for Hereford... perhaps I imagined it.
They did when Ian was about 70 and manager (slight exaggeration) and Gary a youngster!

I like this quote from the Blackpool forum about him...

Quote
Gary Bowyer has done a good job given the circumstances at the club.
He hasn t got involved in the off field dispute and has motivitated a
mixed group of players of different abilities into a good league 2 squad.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, May 19, 2017, 11:38:09
Anyone equating Power to the Oystons should do some reading and research.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, May 19, 2017, 12:23:01
All seems weird to me. As late as Wednesday Seamus Brady was telling anyone who would listen that we will have a manager in place today


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 19, 2017, 12:35:59
All seems weird to me. As late as Wednesday Seamus Brady was telling anyone who would listen that we will have a manager in place today

Where did you see this DRS?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, May 19, 2017, 12:45:38
Just what i have been told. I know lot's of people have been told things but got no reason to not listen to what i heard


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, May 19, 2017, 12:48:30
It's us. Probably be this evening when the club have bothered to release information to anyone.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Friday, May 19, 2017, 12:53:14
Press Manager is off today.

So i guess that means no appointment either. The wait continues 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:02:32
Press Manager is off today.

So i guess that means no appointment either. The wait continues 

No Press Manager on statement Friday? Sounds like shambles thistle to me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:04:08
I don't see why we'd need a press manager to make an announcement.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:06:45
needs to be involved. Clues in the name 'press officer'

You need a press officer for a press conference


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:08:32
Power normally makes announcements of this magnitude himself so it doesn't make a difference if the press managers there.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:11:17
needs to be involved. Clues in the name 'press officer'

You need a press officer for a press conference

Why?

Can nobody else lay out some tables and chairs?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: phelpsieboy on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:11:34
Steele-Davis has said that he is working at the club tonight ....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:12:00
No.  Lay out cones yes, but chairs?  No thats too specialised.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:12:40
I don't think the press officers sole responsibility on the day of a huge announcement is 'arranging tables and chairs'


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:14:34
Why?

Can nobody else lay out some tables and chairs?

Would of thought The Press officer would call the press and organised the whole thing professionally.  


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:17:01
So nobody else can call the press? I could do that from here.

I'm not belittling the press guy's job at all. I expect he would generally have a lot on, but I don't see why a conference can't be held just because he's not around for a day or so.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bewster on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:19:13
Would of thought The Press officer would call the press and organised the whole thing professionally.  

Are you aware that this is Swindon and Power we are talking about ??

I'd be happy with it being scratched on the door in the Arkells stand loos.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:19:33
ASD is the press officer and he's working tonight so I don't see there being an issue here at all. Guessing it's because of the charity match rather than manager related but you never know....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:22:01
it's his Job. Andrews isn't at work today. So appointment unlikely.

He has other jobs like the Facebook and twitter feed's, player interview ect.

Every club has one.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:23:46
it's his Job. Andrews isn't at work today. So appointment unlikely.

He has other jobs like the Facebook and twitter feed's, player interview ect.

Every club has one.


He's working at the ground tonight, he has said so!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:26:48
Steele-Davis has said that he is working at the club tonight ....

Giving Jamie O'Hara some much needed PR


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:38:49

He has other jobs like the Facebook and twitter feed's, player interview ect.



The twitter and facebook feeds were updated just 10 minutes ago...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:40:17
IS HE NOT HERE YET  ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:40:28
The twitter feed was updated just 10 minutes ago...
Because ASD is at work I'm guessing. Townend80 needs a new 'sauce' I feel.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:40:43
Giving Jamie O'Hara some much needed PR

I saw that. What a bellend.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:54:58
Why havent you all checked Fanzai?  You're so behind.  Our new manager is some lad called Mark Cooper.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 19, 2017, 13:55:06
needs to be involved. Clues in the name 'press officer'

You need a press officer for a press conference

What you doing on your day off?  ;)

Press Officer at a club that doesn't talk to the press sounds like an incredibly cushy number? Considering how rarely they engage it would be considerably cheaper to outsource it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Friday, May 19, 2017, 14:27:25
Because ASD is at work I'm guessing. Townend80 needs a new 'sauce' I feel.
it was Matt from the Adver that told me  :cry:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 19, 2017, 14:40:46
it was Matt from the Adver that told me  :cry:
There in lies your first mistake; never listen to the Adver!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2017, 14:43:51
Wills not expecting the manager to be unveiled today.
Presumably he didn't get that from the Adver...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: HorlocksLegs on Friday, May 19, 2017, 17:17:43
BenWills reported the same earlier.

https://twitter.com/_BenWills/status/865538624871202816


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, May 19, 2017, 17:23:46
Saw wills say on twitter that nothing is expected today


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 19, 2017, 17:24:11
All well and good, but what does Ben Wills have to say about this?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 19, 2017, 17:25:06
Ben Wills.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 17:49:34
Cotterrill was approached but not interested, according to the adver.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, May 19, 2017, 17:51:14
BEN WILLS


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 19, 2017, 17:52:39
Cotterrill was approached but not interested, according to the adver.

Minimal, if any, substance but they've got to put something on the back page.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 17:57:08
The tweets from Wills read to me as though an appointment has been made.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: donkey on Friday, May 19, 2017, 18:05:29
Cotterrill was approached but not interested, according to the adver.

Good. Long ball merchant.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 18:07:46
The tweets from Wills read to me as though an appointment has been made.

Yep, reading between the lines is they are waiting for the person to be able to leave their current position......... which means it could be AA


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RJack on Friday, May 19, 2017, 18:08:16
And a Cnut.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 19, 2017, 18:10:49
Yep, reading between the lines is they are waiting for the person to be able to leave their current position......... which means it could be AA

Or Bowyer
Or Tisdale
Or Wenger


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 18:11:22
Yep, reading between the lines is they are waiting for the person to be able to leave their current position......... which means it could be AA

Or Bowyer, considering his response to Batch's tweet.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 18:12:43
Or he might just be fucking with us. Or we might be reading into things that aren't there.

Fuck this. It's gaming o'clock.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 18:30:56
Cotterrill was approached but not interested, according to the adver.
Thank Allah for that!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 18:33:29
Yep, reading between the lines is they are waiting for the person to be able to leave their current position......... which means it could be AA
If you take this wording as gospel then "be able to leave their current position" would rule out AA as hes under contract at Thistle whereas Bowyer is under a 1 year rolling contract.

It could all be bollocks though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2017, 18:41:00
Quote from: Flashheart
Or he might just be fucking with us. .

Reckon there's a fair chance..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Friday, May 19, 2017, 19:01:17
Or Bowyer, considering his response to Batch's tweet.

What was this?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, May 19, 2017, 19:15:37
Expecting the usual who's your source etc but......
Archibald and Bowyer actually applied for the job so I'm told. This explains Archibalds come and get me to the media. Power wanted someone who's been there and done it in football league and got teams promoted, so didn't speak to Patrick about Archibald at the time, which is when the approach for Evans came. That didn't happen, so then came the approach to Cotterill.
Again... so far those 2 won't be happening...
There has now been a 'chat' with Bowyer, whist Archibald is still interested.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2017, 19:20:01
Notrill

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15298180.Cotterill_rules_himself_out_of_Town_reckoning/

apologies if it's in here already..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Friday, May 19, 2017, 19:26:47
Who's Bowyer?

The geezer in Star Trek that looks like Trigger.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: donkey on Friday, May 19, 2017, 19:29:42
The geezer in Star Trek that looks like Trigger.
Genius, sir! Well played.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 19, 2017, 19:44:31
bilko firmly chang'd it.

Blame bilko.

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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 08:48:33
Notrill

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15298180.Cotterill_rules_himself_out_of_Town_reckoning/

apologies if it's in here already..
That article highlights how shit The Advertiser is. It starts off by saying that Cotterill is not interested in the Town job, "The Adver understands". It then goes on to list the jobs that he has had and states that he recently turned down the job of assistant manager at Birmingham......and the quotes him on the subject. On the Swindon job there is absolutely nothing other than the bit that "The Adver understands". No quote from Cotterill, no source given, just that "The Adver understands".



Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 08:54:38
I've always taken that to mean they talked to somebody off record that didn't want to be named/quoted.

too much credit?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 08:59:49
Like the old 'Sky sources reveal', either to make themselves look ITK or maintain someone's anonymity


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 10:57:35
Well 6 years ago today we appointed PdC as new manager, how I would like another such ambitious appointment, altho with a little less mental illness thrown in this time.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 12:02:08
Well 6 years ago today we appointed PdC as new manager, how I would like another such ambitious appointment, altho with a little less mental illness thrown in this time.
Paolo wasn't mentally ill, he was just a narcissist with a mean streak who was given huge resources to throw at getting out of L2.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 12:05:30
Paolo wasn't mentally ill, he was just a narcissist with a mean streak who was given huge resources to throw at getting out of L2.
That too but I still maintain there was some form of mental imbalance in him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 12:08:33
That too but I still maintain there was some form of mental imbalance in him.

I think he was just himself.

Many people can't accept that if someone is a bit different there must be something wrong with them.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Captain Beefheart on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 12:22:26
Just saw Steven Pressley in Cafe Nero. Make of that what you will.

Latte drinker. Make of that what you will.  :gay:


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 12:36:37
power on BBC Wilts now.

down to 3 on short list but wants to talk to one or two others.

non committal on loans, up to new manager as he'll have 100% control. going in different direction next year

expects Sherwood to move on. only in for one widow to help Luke blah blah.

missed this BBC Wilts tweet:

LP: "Next season we'll have the highest budget - if not one of the highest budgets"

won't insist on Waterford friendly :) new management team will decide on who we play


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 12:48:21
LP: "Next season we'll have the highest budget - if not one of the highest budgets"

LP: On attracting a manager - "League two's not a great help" #stfc - Who wouldve thought it!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 12:51:24
Andy Hessenthaler was in The Jury's Inn bar last night. Although he was with 3 other guys who I didn't recognise so probably just coincidental.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 12:55:00
At least we've had an update.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 13:05:52
I think he was just himself.

Many people can't accept that if someone is a bit different there must be something wrong with them.

He was a textbook narcissist. Narcissism is a mental illness which is frequently left untreated because it affects other people worse than the sufferer.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 13:21:47
He was a textbook narcissist. Narcissism is a mental illness which is frequently left untreated because it affects other people worse than the sufferer.
I also think he had a lot of ADD tendancies.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 13:23:09
I also think he had a lot of ADD tendancies.

Like Trump. Probably related (the symptoms, not the two fascists in question).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 13:33:52
He was a textbook narcissist. Narcissism is a mental illness which is frequently left untreated because it affects other people worse than the sufferer.

So in your world, if something is in a textbook....it makes it true?

Have you ever read One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 14:14:10
So in your world, if something is in a textbook....it makes it true?

Have you ever read One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?

You share Michael Gove's scorn for experts then?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 14:21:08
Keith Hill has signed a new deal at Rochdale so that's another name we can rule out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 14:31:05
power on BBC Wilts now.

down to 3 on short list but wants to talk to one or two others.

non committal on loans, up to new manager as he'll have 100% control. going in different direction next year

expects Sherwood to move on. only in for one widow to help Luke blah blah.

missed this BBC Wilts tweet:

LP: "Next season we'll have the highest budget - if not one of the highest budgets"

won't insist on Waterford friendly :) new management team will decide on who we play
expects Sherwood to move on. only in for one widow to help Luke blah blah.
This bit worries the shit out of me. Is it the fucking hokey cokey? Why would the new manager want him around and if he's hanging around unwanted, not a good sign. So, if he was in for only one window then thats gone and so should that bottling cunt.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 14:51:57
expects Sherwood to move on. only in for one widow to help Luke blah blah.
This bit worries the shit out of me. Is it the fucking hokey cokey? Why would the new manager want him around and if he's hanging around unwanted, not a good sign. So, if he was in for only one window then thats gone and so should that bottling cunt.


https://twitter.com/BBCWiltsSport/status/865901065438474241 (https://twitter.com/BBCWiltsSport/status/865901065438474241)

It also goes on to state that Sherwood would leave once a new manager is in place so is likely helping Power with choosing / interviewing the managers on their shortlist.

I don't see the hate for Sherwood, he was over hyped by Power and his true role was never publicised but he likely did what he was asked, he was never going to be the saviour which some fans expect as he was always hands off, let Luke get on with what he wanted too do but supposedly offered advice. It sounds like he was a mentor to Luke. If anyone is at fault it's Power as he over hyped Sherwood's arrival and never really let the fans know what his role was.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 15:00:48
https://twitter.com/BBCWiltsSport/status/865901065438474241 (https://twitter.com/BBCWiltsSport/status/865901065438474241)

It also goes on to state that Sherwood would leave once a new manager is in place so is likely helping Power with choosing / interviewing the managers on their shortlist.

I don't see the hate for Sherwood, he was over hyped by Power and his true role was never publicised but he likely did what he was asked, he was never going to be the saviour which some fans expect as he was always hands off, let Luke get on with what he wanted too do but supposedly offered advice. It sounds like he was a mentor to Luke. If anyone is at fault it's Power as he over hyped Sherwood's arrival and never really let the fans know what his role was.
Sherwood is a cunt pure and simple. Others may disagree but I think he's a bottling bellend. He got close enough to it to take the glory if we got out of it and totally bottled it when it went wrong. He wasn't hands off either. He took a significant number of training sessions where Luke was left with the cones. He also picked the team as late as Charlton away.   


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: otanswell on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 15:01:16
Did as asked? soapy tit wank
We got relegated with the shite he signed. He did fuck all in his tenure here. Hope his wife leaves him for another woman


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 15:13:50
hard to argue against him being a cunt really. so I won't


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 15:19:09
I don't see the hate for Sherwood, he was over hyped by Power and his true role was never publicised but he likely did what he was asked,

Fuck off, he was installed as director of football in charge of everything. That as his true role.

He cocked it up and now he and Power are backtracking like fuck in "operation face save"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 15:25:25
I don't see the hate for Sherwood
You could be pretty on your own with this comment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 15:28:01
So when new manager is appointed Sherwood will leave the job that he never really had anyway?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 15:58:05
Sherwood is a cunt pure and simple. Others may disagree but I think he's a bottling bellend. He got close enough to it to take the glory if we got out of it and totally bottled it when it went wrong. He wasn't hands off either. He took a significant number of training sessions where Luke was left with the cones. He also picked the team as late as Charlton away.   


Yep, if we stayed up he would have been up in the press saying it was all down to him, without a doubt


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 16:04:38
Surely he would have had to have gone full kit..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 16:49:05
Mentioned Stephen Pressley a couple weeks ago. Would be an ideal addition. Still would love Chris Powell tbh, but it won't happen.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 16:51:16
Mentioned Stephen Pressley a couple weeks ago. Would be an ideal addition.
Seriously? he wouldn't even be in my top 100 list of possible appointments, he has an awful record in English management.

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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 16:53:34
Chris Powell, er no thanks


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 17:08:55
I wouldn't mind Chris Powell. Probably because I'm a bleeding heart and he seems like a lovely fella.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 17:47:25
Chris Powell, er no thanks

Why not though Batch?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 17:49:03
If he was only in to help out why was Sherwood lauded as the greatest appointment ever made?

It was a disaster and now back pedaling!

If we had stayed up...they would of milked it!


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 18:17:08
Quote
Why not though Batch?
based on his record of  being rubbish at Huddersfield.

 To be fair to him I'm no Chris Powell  expert. I'd forgotten about his promotion/first season in championship with Charlton, only thebetter the last year.

so having said no, I could warm to it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: REDBUCK on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 18:41:59
Keith Curle - He's the one


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 18:43:26
Keith Curle - He's the one

EX-CITY EX-ROVERS EX-READING!?!?!?!?!

Not in my back yard.

 ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 19:43:46
I'd be happy with Keith Curle


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: stfcinbmth on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 19:54:59
As long as it's not Fatty Evans, I'm happy


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 23:38:33
Re: Curle. He's also ex Mansfield too!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, May 21, 2017, 13:13:45
Well after losing 5.0 at home Thursday, Alan Archibald's Patrick are 4.0 down at home to Aberdeen and it's not even half time.
He should fit right in.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, May 21, 2017, 13:43:08
Well after losing 5.0 at home Thursday, Alan Archibald's Patrick are 4.0 down at home to Aberdeen and it's not even half time.
He should fit right in.

Maybe he's lost interest due to Lee Powers undeniable charm...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 21, 2017, 15:56:53
Well after losing 5.0 at home Thursday, Alan Archibald's Patrick are 4.0 down at home to Aberdeen and it's not even half time.
He should fit right in.
6-0 defeat for them so 11 goals conceded in th elast 2 home games, they seem to have given up, perhaps he has told them hes leaving soon.....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Monday, May 22, 2017, 09:37:15
Well after losing 5.0 at home Thursday, Alan Archibald's Patrick are 4.0 down at home to Aberdeen and it's not even half time.
He should fit right in.

On 5 live they said Patrick have a habit of conceding late goals. I thought 'yep he's perfect for our next gaffer'
Danny Wilson's side always seemed to crumble when the clock hit 90, he could be our next Danny.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 22, 2017, 09:39:29
Speaking on Danny, he's available...

 ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 22, 2017, 09:42:30
Speaking on Danny, he's available...

 ;)

Nailed on play-off finalists, but another season in L2.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 22, 2017, 10:07:01
Nailed on play-off finalists, but another season in L2.
He always has one good season followed by one terrible season.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, May 22, 2017, 12:32:56
I wonder if he is waiting for the L2 play off final and hoping to snatch the losing manager


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Monday, May 22, 2017, 14:27:20
I wonder if he is waiting for the L2 play off final and hoping to snatch the losing manager

Eumours are Bowyer is coming once the game is played, how true that is we will have to find out in due course


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, May 22, 2017, 17:54:52
As long as it's not Fatty Evans, I'm happy
I don't give a fuck who it is as long as it's not Fatty Evans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: walcot red on Monday, May 22, 2017, 22:30:08
Moyes?? Just left Sunderland could do a job for us. Wouldn't happen though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bilko on Monday, May 22, 2017, 22:31:01
Well the new manager has been chosen and will be announced  next week for a very good reason and I think most fans will be happy with the appointment as he has done a good job at his current club. He only came into the betting odds on Friday but I put money on when the odds were good I put this same information on the advertiser site but people slagging me off saying I know jack shit.
Well next week the name will be revealed so I've given two hints in this message on who it could be,
Power will also be announcing some other good news but not sure when yet but it should put this club in good stead again another hint on what he may be announcing.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sippo on Monday, May 22, 2017, 22:32:25
Bowyer then.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, May 22, 2017, 22:59:41
Well the new manager has been chosen and will be announced  next week for a very good reason and I think most fans will be happy with the appointment as he has done a good job at his current club. He only came into the betting odds on Friday but I put money on when the odds were good I put this same information on the advertiser site but people slagging me off saying I know jack shit.
Well next week the name will be revealed so I've given two hints in this message on who it could be,
Power will also be announcing some other good news but not sure when yet but it should put this club in good stead again another hint on what he may be announcing.



Jon Stead? Or have I misinterpreted.

Considering sticking some cash on Bowyer at 11/2 but not sure it's worth the risk.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, May 22, 2017, 23:14:59
Blackpool have only sold 2,000 tickets for Wembley. Good to see they can do a boycott properly.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, May 22, 2017, 23:21:31
Well the new manager has been chosen and will be announced  next week for a very good reason and I think most fans will be happy with the appointment as he has done a good job at his current club. He only came into the betting odds on Friday but I put money on when the odds were good I put this same information on the advertiser site but people slagging me off saying I know jack shit.
Well next week the name will be revealed so I've given two hints in this message on who it could be,
Power will also be announcing some other good news but not sure when yet but it should put this club in good stead again another hint on what he may be announcing.



Hmmmm, if nothing else you give us ponderous thoughts!

So...Gary Bowyer and an exciting sponsorship deal?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 00:15:29
Well the new manager has been chosen and will be announced  next week for a very good reason and I think most fans will be happy with the appointment as he has done a good job at his current club. He only came into the betting odds on Friday but I put money on when the odds were good I put this same information on the advertiser site but people slagging me off saying I know jack shit.
Well next week the name will be revealed so I've given two hints in this message on who it could be,
Power will also be announcing some other good news but not sure when yet but it should put this club in good stead again another hint on what he may be announcing.

Let me humour you for a second. So you know who the manager will be, you have hinted Bowyer but you won't confirm only suggest.

Bowyer is currently 11/2 in the betting, if I had inside information and knew who the manager was I'd be placing a tidy sum across multiple bookies. We have seen how little money it takes in these markets to make odds tumble and the bookies protect themselves. So have you put a bet on who our next manager is? And if not why on earth not if you know?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 05:37:58
Well the new manager has been chosen and will be announced  next week for a very good reason and I think most fans will be happy with the appointment as he has done a good job at his current club. He only came into the betting odds on Friday but I put money on when the odds were good I put this same information on the advertiser site but people slagging me off saying I know jack shit.
Well next week the name will be revealed so I've given two hints in this message on who it could be,
Power will also be announcing some other good news but not sure when yet but it should put this club in good stead again another hint on what he may be announcing.



Absolutely pointless without names.


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 07:17:37
I know who it is, I'll confirm it once it's announced on the club website.

#worseThanChang


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 07:22:49
bilko states that we'd be happy with the appointment. Not sure that would be universally the case with Bowyer (although I'm not in any way offended by the rumour).

Could this be our (almost) annual fruitless link to Paul Tisdale? The yarn that doesn't stop spinning.





Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 08:00:06
I know who it is, I'll confirm it once it's announced on the club website.

#worseThanChang
:D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 09:57:36
I know who it is, I'll confirm it once it's announced on the club website.

#worseThanChang

#EveryITKPersonEverApartFromDRSWhoUsedToPutHisMoneyWhereHisMouthWayAndActuallyGiveNamesUnlikeEveryOtherITKPersonEver


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 09:58:42
The new manager will be a bloke.

You heard it here first.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 09:59:43
Not Easton??

Power out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 10:02:05
#EveryITKPersonEver
I used to give you names. Wanker


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 10:02:31
I used to give you names. Wanker

Fair point.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 10:03:54
Edited accordingly.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 10:07:28
Fair point.
Hahahaah Good man


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 12:43:26
But will he still want to come her when they win the play-offs and get promotion to L1

On another note I see that Kewell has taken over as manager Crawley, I'm glad we are not about to appoint someone untried


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fuzzy on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 12:45:21
John Terry as player manager.

He'll sort the defence out.......


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 12:49:25
John Terry as player manager.

He'll sort the defence out.......

Lock up the wives and girlfriends


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 13:06:16
John Terry near Manchester Road, what could go wrong??


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 14:59:10
Joey Barton been released could get the gig initially as manager and then player manager in 12 months time?  ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 15:18:37
Joey Barton been released could get the gig initially as manager and then player manager in 12 months time?  ;)
Banned from the game totally


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 15:28:14
Banned from the game totally

We haven't really partaken in football related activity for about 18 months now, was Williams banned as well?  :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 15:54:27
Blackpool have only sold 2,000 tickets for Wembley. Good to see they can do a boycott properly.

Now that Spurs are using it as a home ground, might be a good time to stop using Wembley for lower league PO finals and other lower league, non league stuff.

Blackpool-Exeter will do well to get 20,000. Much better to have used somewhere like Villa Park. At the weekend we had the FA Vase, South Shields v Cleethorpes.  To compound the idiocy it was a 12:15 KO for TV.  Far better to have played it at say the KC stadium.

Our PO final v Preston had a smaller crowd than when we played an FA Cup neutral game v Forest at Villa Park


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 16:15:48
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40013417


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 16:19:45
I have been saying for years that the play offs would be better suited to venues somewhere near half way between both sides playing, as the FA Cup semi's used to be.

Very few of the L1, L2, Conf, JPT games would get anywhere near capacity for Wembley.

Sheff Weds, Man City, Arsenal, Aston Villa, Cardiff, Stoke etc would all be better options.

For instance...Millwall v Bradford would have suited Villa Park well, Exeter vs Blackpool similar, Forest Gump vs Tranmere similar.

Makes travelling easier for non London based teams and probably a better atmosphere in a half full Villa Park vs a quarter filled Wembley.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 16:24:46
but the FA need to keep repaying the huge loans on Wembley so that won't happen unfortunately


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 16:29:25
but the FA need to keep repaying the huge loans on Wembley so that won't happen unfortunately

That and they need to host football matches every now and again.

The real question was 'do we need a national stadium?' - Alas...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 09:55:33
Well the new manager has been chosen and will be announced  next week for a very good reason and I think most fans will be happy with the appointment as he has done a good job at his current club. He only came into the betting odds on Friday but I put money on when the odds were good I put this same information on the advertiser site but people slagging me off saying I know jack shit.
Well next week the name will be revealed so I've given two hints in this message on who it could be,
Power will also be announcing some other good news but not sure when yet but it should put this club in good stead again another hint on what he may be announcing.

Bowyer & Vouchers for ST holders



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 09:56:45
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40013417

The thing that stood out for me here was

'Williams won just 20 of his 75 games in charge of the Robins'

How did the fudge did he last so long????!!!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 10:00:28
Well the new manager has been chosen and will be announced  next week for a very good reason and I think most fans will be happy with the appointment as he has done a good job at his current club. He only came into the betting odds on Friday but I put money on when the odds were good I put this same information on the advertiser site but people slagging me off saying I know jack shit.
Well next week the name will be revealed so I've given two hints in this message on who it could be,
Power will also be announcing some other good news but not sure when yet but it should put this club in good stead again another hint on what he may be announcing.



I would keep quiet now if you want to pick up your winnings (inside information).
The John Terry bets are probably not going to be paid out so ssssssssh


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 11:21:51
I would keep quiet now if you want to pick up your winnings (inside information).
The John Terry bets are probably not going to be paid out so ssssssssh

I thought I read somewhere they had already been paid out, i could be wrong however.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 11:27:05
I thought I read somewhere they had already been paid out, i could be wrong however.

The small bets have, not those who lumped on at 100/1, it's under investigation


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 11:27:57
The small bets have, not those who lumped on at 100/1, it's under investigation
I stand corrected


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 15:48:53
It's not Bowyer... according to Bowyer.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 15:49:55
It wasn't Hoddle to Chelsea 3 days before a playoff final either


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 15:51:24
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11574274.Blackburn_Rovers_boss_Gary_Bowyer_putting_his_faith_in_youth/

This article sounds like he'd fit Power's model. Like the idea of having a fit team too!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 15:57:06
It wasn't Hoddle to Chelsea 3 days before a playoff final either

Quite, he's not going to say 'yes' given the timing.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 16:01:13
Bowyer next to distance himself. Not listening to Bilko anymore after he said announcement friday and now this


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 16:02:17
Bowyer next to distance himself. Not listening to Bilko anymore after he said announcement friday and now this

Did he confirm it was Bowyer?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 16:03:49
Did he confirm it was Bowyer?

All but. What happened to announcement Friday? If I'm wrong i'll be the 1st to say sorry


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 16:08:44
Unless it's Tisdale, he didn't point fingers at either  ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 16:11:01
Unless it's Tisdale, he didn't point fingers at either  ;)

Oh Tisdale,

He must his 'no to Swindon approach' on copy and paste now  ::)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 16:21:21
Oh Tisdale,

He must his 'no to Swindon approach' on copy and paste now  ::)

Power is more likely to get Mr Grimsdale than Mr Tisdale....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 16:30:51
Power is more likely to get Mr Grimsdale than Mr Tisdale....
With Storming Norman Wisdom as assistant?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 17:34:35
So it's new Bowyer than according to ThisIs

It is going to be Jock :cry:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 10:24:28
Dermot Drummy soon to be the only option left - perfect really since he will know all the Chelski youngsters soon to be wending there way down the M4 to the County Ground


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: random_five on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 10:38:00
JFH?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 10:48:01
JFH?
JFW!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 10:52:25
Jamie Sendles-White in a plot twist


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 12:24:49
Dermot Drummy soon to be the only option left - perfect really since he will know all the Chelski youngsters soon to be wending there way down the M4 to the County Ground

The only option left? Absolute bollocks.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 12:30:40
I think it will be either Archibald or if we go all out on on wages then hopefully JFH.

Could just as easily be a name not mentioned yet though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 13:22:08
I love it when people get angry about things that haven't happened.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 13:25:06
Can we just use a magic eight ball?

or, given it is now the rage, let something like IBM Watson have a bash at it?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 13:28:24
I love it when people get angry about things that haven't happened.
Yeah, Mr Angry that we haven't appointed somebody that wasn't interested or even applied....grrrr Power should be fucking ashamed of himself.

Booooo urns.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 14:14:24
Where's Vivaesh?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 16:06:46
Whoever it is, needs to be appointed soon. Mistake of last 2 summers has been doing business too late.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 16:51:13
If the new man is indeed installed after this weekend there's plenty of time for recruitment. Also, if the man has already been chosen I'd imagine feelers have already been put out.

The main problem last year wasn't really the timescale, it was those who Power signed. Fair dues to him if he actually does a U turn on what he fervently believed was the best way to run our club.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 17:02:26
Bar Mansfield going on a crazy spree (which looks evermore to have been pandering to Evans ego to stop him leaving) have other clubs actually completed much business yet as players will be away etc etc. As Power never actually confirms anything we have no idea what he may have been up to behind the scenes?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 17:04:24
Coventry have signed a few players already, not sure what everyone else has been upto but in all fairness I haven't been paying too much attention.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Thursday, May 25, 2017, 17:10:42
Chesterfield have signed Brad Barry, though. 😂😂😂


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Friday, May 26, 2017, 09:38:19
Anything think we'll hear any news today on new gaffer?

If we hear nothing today, you'd think we'd make an appointment next week surly ??



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, May 26, 2017, 09:48:46
Anything think we'll hear any news today on new gaffer?

If we hear nothing today, you'd think we'd make an appointment next week surly ??


Maybe Hockaday is on holiday?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bilko on Friday, May 26, 2017, 14:55:56
 I told you lot last week manager wont be revealed until after Sunday (do you all know what is on Sunday) and he has the same surname as a well known Pork Pie and Sausages.
Another massive hint he only came into the bookies betting last Friday and is odds are now really short.

If you cant guess who that is then you must have gone to a different school to me.

And for those who think I know jack shit as some have stated on the advertiser site then wait and see.

He's done well at his current club after they were sinking down the table.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 26, 2017, 15:03:24
I told you lot last week manager wont be revealed until after Sunday (do you all know what is on Sunday) and he has the same surname as a well known Pork Pie and Sausages.
Another massive hint he only came into the bookies betting last Friday and is odds are now really short.

If you cant guess who that is then you must have gone to a different school to me.

And for those who think I know jack shit as some have stated on the advertiser site then wait and see.

He's done well at his current club after they were sinking down the table.
He also distanced himself from being linked with us yesterday and Power said there is a shortlist of 3 so still doesn't really stack up....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Friday, May 26, 2017, 15:30:35
He also distanced himself from being linked with us yesterday and Power said there is a shortlist of 3 so still doesn't really stack up....

Well he's not likely to say he's on his bike before a Play Off Final, is he? Hope Bilko is correct, but if he isn't one of the admins need to change his name to Doberman...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 26, 2017, 15:34:59
Well he's not likely to say he's on his bike before a Play Off Final, is he? Hope Bilko is correct, but if he isn't one of the admins need to change his name to Doberman...

 :)



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, May 26, 2017, 15:44:00
Tony fucking Mowbray? Give me strength


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 26, 2017, 15:55:00
Tony fucking Mowbray? Give me strength

 :)



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 26, 2017, 15:55:10
I had a look on Blackpool's forum and opinion on him seems quite split.

Not that I'm trying to suggest anything in that, just passing on an observation.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, May 26, 2017, 16:09:57
They have sold 5,000 tickets for the play off final. Good on em


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, May 26, 2017, 16:53:18
I hope Bilko is right and I had to Google this but Bowyers was a meat and sausage supplier in Trowbridge - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowyers

Or it could be Tony Mowbray and he can do one  :smugfu:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, May 26, 2017, 16:56:21
So, it's sausages v pies.

My missus loves a sausage!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 26, 2017, 17:03:25
So, looks like he's had a decent-ish career in US soccerball, not sure how that will translate to L2, mind, and certainly on the "up and coming" end of the age scale. Player manager maybe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Walls


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 26, 2017, 17:07:15
http://www.taylorsbutchers.com/ Matt Taylor?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 26, 2017, 17:09:40
So, looks like he's had a decent-ish career in US soccerball, not sure how that will translate to L2, mind, and certainly on the "up and coming" end of the age scale. Player manager maybe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Walls

Peter Wall.. ex Liverpool, played in the same Palace team as Don Rogers.  Managerial experience at California Surf and Los Angeles Lazers.

The ice cream came about as something to do with the fat from the pork products.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 26, 2017, 18:00:53
Peter Wall.. ex Liverpool, played in the same Palace team as Don Rogers.  Managerial experience at California Surf and Los Angeles Lazers.
Nice one Reg, much better fit
The ice cream came about as something to do with the fat from the pork products.
Christ, no wonder it tasted rank :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 26, 2017, 18:16:52
Nice one Reg, much better fitChrist, no wonder it tasted rank :)

However, the ice cream factory is still there on the edge of Gloucester. I once did a tour round it, many years ago... it seemed that Vienetta was its winner and they gave you loads of free samples.

I don't think J Lyons of Lyons Maid fame, were necessarily big on sausages and pies, but their ice creams and lollies weren't bad.  Mike Lyons, definitely helped Kingy for a while.... which brings us round to Mr Whippy.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Friday, May 26, 2017, 18:29:59
Barnwood, where I worked.  Huge Unilver building now added onsite and it doesn't exactly look like a huge working population these days.  Has a little Walls shop onsite - not sure if they were still selling when I left.  They also have a sports club and pitches in the area, sort of old BR/Wills type effort.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leftside on Friday, May 26, 2017, 21:28:19
For those of us with slightly different leanings, could it be 2 Bundeslige coach Uwe Quorn, or possibly LoI trainer Dick McCartney?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 26, 2017, 21:44:30
For those of us with slightly different leanings, could it be 2 Bundeslige coach Uwe Quorn, or possibly LoI trainer Dick McCartney?
Keep the shortlist for when Cooper gets the push from FGR!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Family at War on Friday, May 26, 2017, 21:52:18
Could be Bernt Bratwurst from the Bundesliga


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Mother Brown on Friday, May 26, 2017, 22:06:47
I hope Bilko is right and I had to Google this but Bowyers was a meat and sausage supplier in Trowbridge - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowyers

Or it could be Tony Mowbray and he can do one  :smugfu:
I thought Pork pies came from Melton  Mowbray.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 27, 2017, 01:33:39
 Neil Harris? After all Power is a Millwall fan.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Saturday, May 27, 2017, 13:34:15
Neil Harris? After all Power is a Millwall fan.
Not sure I'm seeing the sausage/pork joke here, Reg?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 27, 2017, 13:37:01
Not sure I'm seeing the sausage/pork joke here, Reg?

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7469/16103310061_f60671ddd3_m.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Saturday, May 27, 2017, 13:46:15
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7469/16103310061_f60671ddd3_m.jpg)
Aha, my incomer status lets me down again :) Nice tie-in with previous rumours as well - ad illustrated with a photo of Steve Evans


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 17:39:05
Well I think we can rule Bowyer out now as Blackpool have secured promotion.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 18:53:11
Tisdale into 16/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 19:24:32
Tisdale into 16/1

Post-match quotes hardly scream 'see ya'.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10896674/paul-tisdale-says-healthy-exeter-can-bounce-back-from-play-off-final-defeat?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+skysports%2FCnFH+%28Sky+Sports+%7C+Football+News%29

We don't know, the press don't know, the bookies don't know. Hopefully Lee Power knows.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 19:34:24
Post-match quotes hardly scream 'see ya'.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10896674/paul-tisdale-says-healthy-exeter-can-bounce-back-from-play-off-final-defeat?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+skysports%2FCnFH+%28Sky+Sports+%7C+Football+News%29

We don't know, the press don't know, the bookies don't know. Hopefully Lee Power knows.
either way Power needs to pull his finger out a get the position filled, we have just over 2 months to get someone to build a team, tick tock


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 20:56:57
If he's got a viable list of candidates it's got to be in the week, surely.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 22:00:52
I find it amazing how most clubs can fire a manager and replace in days. The fact that we still don't have a manager can only be either Power won't pay the going rate or no one wants to work for him. We become more of a joke day by day. Bookies have no clue either and have made us one of the favourites to go back up. Laughable. I got 20/1 on Town being relegated next season so stuck £20 on. Obviously not a bet I want to win but will certainly soften the blow.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 22:07:44
The fact that we still don't have a manager can only be either Power won't pay the going rate or no one wants to work for him.

Yep.

Those are the only two possible explanations. There are no other possibilities. None.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 22:18:34
Yep.

Those are the only two possible explanations. There are no other possibilities. None.
Occam's razor


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 22:19:50
Occam's razor does not apply. Not even close.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 22:37:36
Simple theories


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bathford on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 23:28:28
lee power‏ @leepowerstfc  6h6 hours ago
More
lee power Retweeted Blackpool FC
Well done Gary. Now get the fuck down to Swindon. I want you on my office 9am sharp tomorrow. #stfclee power added,


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Sunday, May 28, 2017, 23:29:27
Well that's fact then.

Does anyone find that account funny?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 29, 2017, 08:39:57
find it ok. HTH.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, May 29, 2017, 08:43:05
Well that's fact then.

Does anyone find that account funny?
Not finding anything funny at the moment,  really getting fucked off continually listening to the radio and checking on here,  for fucks sake Power tell us who it is.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 29, 2017, 09:28:00
I want Power to wait another week or two. People are starting to become irrational, there's some fun to be had.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, May 29, 2017, 09:35:39
I want Power to wait another week or two. People are starting to become irrational, there's some fun to be had.

I have not bothered to looks, but I bet the Facebook group comments are a good laugh right now


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 29, 2017, 09:45:16
I want Power to wait another week or two. People are starting to become irrational, there's some fun to be had.

Don't be such a happy clapping, lefty snowflake libtard. Power is killing the club by deliberately taking his time in appointing a new manager so that all the good players released by Plymouth and Oldham have joined other clubs.

If you can't see that then you're a moron.

I suppose you're happy that fans recently received a £20 voucher too?

Power should just appoint the Hockaday/Drummy prepare for Guiseley away in 2017-18.

Why are the club wasting money on pitch maintenance when it was already perfect? Pathetic.

Wah! Wah! Wah! Wah! Wah! Wah!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, May 29, 2017, 09:46:53
the longer it drags on the more it will hamper preparations for next season though

Conventional wisdom is that a play off run negatively impacts your preparations for next season - all other teams have a 3-4 week head start in terms of planning pre season and lining up transfer targets and speaking to free agents. The longer this goes on we're just hamstringing ourselves


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Monday, May 29, 2017, 09:51:29
We need a massive overhaul of the playing squad. We needed to start 2 weeks ago.

New Manager is not a decision to be rushed but ultimately it's a job that needs doing and needs doing now.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 29, 2017, 09:52:13
the longer it drags on the more it will hamper preparations for next season though

Conventional wisdom is that a play off run negatively impacts your preparations for next season - all other teams have a 3-4 week head start in terms of planning pre season and lining up transfer targets and speaking to free agents. The longer this goes on we're just hamstringing ourselves

I think we're universally in agreement that an ASAP appointment would be good but the irrationality, Flashheart's lighthearted point, is a wee bit silly.

For all we know, somebody knows that they have the job and are already preparing for pre-season - transfers etc included.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, May 29, 2017, 09:55:30
Yeah, I don't think theirs anything nefarious going on, and I'm not going to work myself into a lather about it (for a couple of weeks anyway). It is a little disappointing how long it's taking though (caveat: unless new manager is bowyer, in which case I'll understand)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 29, 2017, 09:57:48
For me we have time, just, but the delay in naming suggests we are struggling to get our man (unless it does turn out to be someone involved in the playoffs).

Call me mad, but  a quick appointment is preferable to a week or two of inaction because it's a bit of a laugh watching people squirm.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, May 29, 2017, 09:59:58
This is a massive appointment for us as it also sends signals as to future direction. I'd rather wait a week for a bowyer than have a drummey now. The new manager will probably want to bring a few of their favourites with them.
Another week and I'll start getting worried.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Monday, May 29, 2017, 10:00:43
I can't see it being Bowyer now they've been promoted.

I am curious as to why '8 days' was the original given time frame.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bathford on Monday, May 29, 2017, 10:08:28
Does Power's '8 days' maths equal Williams 'three draws is a win' kind of mentality..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 29, 2017, 10:30:54
some kind of 7 day approach rule? thought that was only non contact non league players truth.

though he had someone and it would take that long to negotiate.

thought he had someone but their current club needed to be knocked out the playoffs.

who knows.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 29, 2017, 11:01:32
some kind of 7 day approach rule? thought that was only non contact non league players truth.

though he had someone and it would take that long to negotiate.

thought he had someone but their current club needed to be knocked out the playoffs.

who knows.

What we know is that Power has to get this right.... because our status as a FL club is at stake. So, I'd rather he takes time in order to get the right gaffer. The alternative is deciding, we can't get the Evans type and resorting to the D o F model, with Tactics helping out, a head coach.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 29, 2017, 11:40:36
well yes reg, goes without saying.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Monday, May 29, 2017, 12:05:06
It's Bowyer. Bilko said so.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, May 29, 2017, 12:06:30
It's Bowyer. Bilko said so.
Unless he's telling porkies


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, May 29, 2017, 12:25:58
I can't see it being Bowyer now they've been promoted.

I am curious as to why '8 days' was the original given time frame.
Blackpool fans say Oyston will only offer up the minimum budget and will almost certainly come straight down.

On that basis we are a better prospect.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, May 29, 2017, 12:40:39
Blackpool fans say Oyston will only offer up the minimum budget and will almost certainly come straight down.

On that basis we are a better prospect.

Probably true, but not if you listen to our fans (well those that post in the FB page) as they would say that Power is worse


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kirky69 on Monday, May 29, 2017, 13:15:22
All just a hunch but reckon we offered job to Evans and he got increased contract and budget from Mansfield, then wanted Archibald but Patrick wanted too much compo then wanted Bowyer but hes unsure given Blackpools promotion. So a waiting game and maybe move on to next candidate.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kirky69 on Monday, May 29, 2017, 13:16:33
All just a hunch but reckon we offered job to Evans and he got increased contract and budget from Mansfield, then wanted Archibald but Patrick wanted too much compo then wanted Bowyer but hes unsure given Blackpools promotion. So a waiting game and maybe move on to next candidate.
Not sure what Patrick had to do with it mind!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 29, 2017, 13:18:52
All just a hunch but reckon we offered job to Evans and he got increased contract and budget from Mansfield, then wanted Archibald but Patrick wanted too much compo then wanted Bowyer but hes unsure given Blackpools promotion. So a waiting game and maybe move on to next candidate.
Either that or absolutely none of that is true....who knows?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, May 29, 2017, 13:21:35
Teddy Sheringham has come in at 6/1 on Sky Bet.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 29, 2017, 13:30:25
Teddy Sheringham has come in at 6/1 on Sky Bet.

Bless Sky Bet for giving us a new name to consider!

Ex-Millwall, Power would love it. It's funny with how many people would be over the moon because Teddy's famous.

His Stevenage tenure won't enthuse.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 29, 2017, 13:33:04
God, we need someone who knows what they are doing. I'm not saying I'd not give the guy a far crack, but...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 29, 2017, 13:34:18
I think of all the names linked with us I am least enthusiastic about his appointment than any of the others and that includes Evans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 29, 2017, 13:34:25
God, we need someone who knows what they are doing. I'm not saying I'd not give the guy a far crack, but...

For a moment I couldn't decide if you were writing about Teddy Sheringham or Sky Bet.

 :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 29, 2017, 13:37:27
I'm not saying I'd not give the guy a far crack, but...
I have heard that Teddy Sheringham likes a far crack....or was that Graeme Le Saux? :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 29, 2017, 13:49:39
I have heard that Teddy Sheringham likes a far crack....or was that Graeme Le Saux? :D

(https://mlpforums.com/uploads/post_images/sig-4449005.obiwanheadshake.gif)

Elsewhere, it's 20 years since Channel 5 had the rights to England games and 20 years since the hyperbole of Jonathan Pearce's 'Robot Wars' era commentary.

"Ready! Steady! Teddy!" (3mins 20secs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e5D7sLU4YA


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 29, 2017, 14:07:05
God, we need someone who knows what they are doing. I'm not saying I'd not give the guy a far crack, but...

Maybe Teddy will have learned something from his time at Stevenage. This does have a certain ring to it... but Teddy was on course to take Stevenage back to the Conference when sacked


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 29, 2017, 14:32:59
"learned something" - that he's shit at managing?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 29, 2017, 14:39:23
Quote from Sheringham after his sacking at Stevenage....

Quote
Sheringham said he is aware his reputation as a manager is far from high – but hopes another club will give him a chance.

“If I can’t do it at Stevenage in League Two, who else is going to touch me – that was my initial reaction and my apprehension about taking the job in the first place,” he added. “But it is about learning and growing, and I feel better equipped now. If I get a chance now, I don’t have to make those mistakes.”


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Monday, May 29, 2017, 15:05:30
I have no real preference for a manager and won't start rioting because we hire someone with a lack of experience as Cooper had little, Di Canio had none and going back even further with Iffy, Hoddle, Ardilles and Macari.

It's more about the quality of the player than the quality of the manager, the best manager in the world will struggle with poor players and the most unexperienced managers will blossom with the best players.

Get a manager in, get a team together and see where we are in November, that will tell us if the recruitment was done right.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 29, 2017, 15:08:59
Quote from Sheringham after his sacking at Stevenage....


Interesting. It's to his credit that he wants another crack at it.. a lot of the Prem era ex players, just want to sit on their arses or rattle out shit punditry.

I wouldn't be overly despondent, if it was him. Clearly we're not going to get a proper boss, namely someone who is proven and so will cost.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, May 29, 2017, 15:26:43
4/1 now. Someone know something we don't?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, May 29, 2017, 15:31:53
He makes Williams' 26% win rate seem positively Guardiola-esque.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 29, 2017, 15:59:21
He makes Williams' 26% win rate seem positively Guardiola-esque.

P 33 W7 D10 L16



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: otanswell on Monday, May 29, 2017, 16:12:24
Iffy Onoura in the same sentence as Hoddle, Ardiels and Macari

Jesus


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 29, 2017, 16:17:18
Iffy got us relegated, albeit in impossible circumstances.
Beginning to wonder if gillman is a troll/KR...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 29, 2017, 16:19:53
I have no real preference for a manager and won't start rioting because we hire someone with a lack of experience as Cooper had little, Di Canio had none and going back even further with Iffy, Hoddle, Ardilles and Macari.

It's more about the quality of the player than the quality of the manager, the best manager in the world will struggle with poor players and the most unexperienced managers will blossom with the best players.

Get a manager in, get a team together and see where we are in November, that will tell us if the recruitment was done right.

Gareth, Cooper had 200+ games under his belt as a boss before STFC, not exactly inexperienced.

Although Power may like to think he can get an experienced boss to the CG, the length of time to replace Luke means he probably can't.

If it is Teddy then I'd imagine that TT will still be lurking as part of recruitment, as we'll need something like 15/16 players in the next 5 or 6 weeks.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, May 29, 2017, 16:33:36
Gareth, Cooper had 200+ games under his belt as a boss before STFC, not exactly inexperienced.

Although Power may like to think he can get an experienced boss to the CG, the length of time to replace Luke means he probably can't.

If it is Teddy then I'd imagine that TT will still be lurking as part of recruitment, as we'll need something like 15/16 players in the next 5 or 6 weeks.
But if Power was genuine in trying to recruit Evans he would have had to dangle a decent salary alongside a decent budget to get him.

That Salary/budget should be good enough to attract a decent, experienced manager. Sheringham would be another punt.

Unless Power has been blowing smoke up our arses again, of course.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 29, 2017, 16:53:01
But if Power was genuine in trying to recruit Evans he would have had to dangle a decent salary alongside a decent budget to get him.

That Salary/budget should be good enough to attract a decent, experienced manager. Sheringham would be another punt.

Unless Power has been blowing smoke up our arses again, of course.

Do you think that if Evans had been offered a sizeable salary and budget, in excess of his Mansfield money, he'd have stayed there  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, May 29, 2017, 16:53:50
If I was asked to come up with 100 possible names for the job sheringham would not have been on it. If he's even been spoken to then the well is fucking dry. Hopefully it's a load of bollocks. Fuck me someone's laughing their tits off here. It's worth the scummers clubbing together and putting £100 on someone just for shit and giggles.  


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Monday, May 29, 2017, 16:59:58
Part of me thinks that we haven't recruited a new manager yet as they are probably on their two week summer holiday on the Costa del Sol.  The other part remembers the crap we have been through in the past 5 years and realises that it's probably going to be a Hockaday/Sheringham dream team......


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 29, 2017, 17:07:55
Part of me thinks that we haven't recruited a new manager yet as they are probably on their two week summer holiday on the Costa del Sol.  The other part remembers the crap we have been through in the past 5 years and realises that it's probably going to be a Hockaday/Sheringham dream team......

After the Exeter/Blackpool game, Tisdale said he'd go off on a 2 week holiday then come back and start to prepare for 17/18.

Now I've no idea how many players they have contracted for next season, but I guess Perryman does a lot of the recruitment.

It does show however, that as Bogus Dave pointed out, being in the PO's is considered a bit of a hindrance to prep for the next campaign... but it also shows Power has probably realistically got a 2 week window


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kirky69 on Monday, May 29, 2017, 18:46:30
Do you think that if Evans had been offered a sizeable salary and budget, in excess of his Mansfield money, he'd have stayed there  :hmmm:
unless they improved his contract to keep him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 29, 2017, 18:47:46
Just looking through the 3. Liga and Regionaliga sides for our next manager. I wonder if Andreas Hinkel at VfB Stuttgart II fancies the Swindon Town job?

This is the future so climb aboard the bandwagon, folks.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, May 29, 2017, 18:49:00
Unless Power is waiting to speak to Tisdale now exeter have been knocked out - he is on notice as Exeter want to terminate his contract but it does not expire until November, so there is small compensation to pay


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 29, 2017, 18:51:11
Now I've no idea how many players they have contracted for next season, but I guess Perryman does a lot of the recruitment.
Apparently they have a fair few out of contract but have offered new contracts to almost all of them, they also expect to lose at least 2 players for a fee to higher division clubs, I know Watkins and Olejnik are two of the names mentioned.

Perryman and the board are totally in charge of recruitment, Tisdale is in charge of tactics and motivation but not new signings.

Tisdale goes to Perryman and says he wants a new defender or striker etc and the board tell Perryman how much he can afford to pay and he scouts the player and handles the signing himself.

Rumours from Exeter that Pompeys new owners are after Tisdale.

Paul Cook is due to sign for Wigan so Pompey will be managerless.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 29, 2017, 18:55:17
Unless Power is waiting to speak to Tisdale now exeter have been knocked out - he is on notice as Exeter want to terminate his contract but it does not expire until November, so there is small compensation to pay

They served Tisdale his notice when they were in the bottom two, that bit of news has gone pretty quiet.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, May 29, 2017, 19:08:48
They served Tisdale his notice when they were in the bottom two, that bit of news has gone pretty quiet.

Backfired a little bit on them with him leading them to the PO final


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 08:14:33
I told you lot last week manager wont be revealed until after Sunday (do you all know what is on Sunday) and he has the same surname as a well known Pork Pie and Sausages.
Another massive hint he only came into the bookies betting last Friday and is odds are now really short.

If you cant guess who that is then you must have gone to a different school to me.

And for those who think I know jack shit as some have stated on the advertiser site then wait and see.

He's done well at his current club after they were sinking down the table.
Well after Sunday now Bilko, is today the day?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 08:44:49
Well after Sunday now Bilko, is today the day?

You're going to love his reply.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: brocklesby red on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 08:51:05
Gary Bowyer is on a one year rolling contract which runs out tomorrow,perhaps an announcement on Wednesday if Bilko is correct


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 11:43:28
ready, Teddy, no

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15316869.No_contact_with_Sheringham_over_Town_post/?ref=twtrec


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 11:51:27
ready, Teddy, no

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15316869.No_contact_with_Sheringham_over_Town_post/?ref=twtrec

I'm beginning to think that bookmakers aren't reliable sources...........


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 11:52:43
They aren't mate. It's changed so much the way it works in these markets now


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 11:57:56
I'm beginning to think that bookmakers aren't reliable sources...........

I think its become clear that they know as little as the fans in this market, as for the changes in odds I suspect that merely down to a few rumors, a few bets being placed and thus the price comes down accordingly, on such a niche market I would imagine a couple of bets could influence prices - its not like many are going to be betting!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 12:07:00
Gary Bowyer is on a one year rolling contract which runs out tomorrow,perhaps an announcement on Wednesday if Bilko is correct

How does a one year rolling contract run out?
Excuse my ignorance, but I thought the whole point was it doesn't expire?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 12:09:31
That's what I thought as well. I thought that at any one point there would be 1 year remaining until cancelled. I could be wrong though, of course.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 12:17:56
How does a one year rolling contract run out?
Excuse my ignorance, but I thought the whole point was it doesn't expire?

It doesn't but there will be a period defined which the parties can cancel the contract, in theory it does run out as it would end on July 31st but then renew on the 1st August but there would have to be some form of notice given to stop the renewal.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 12:18:32
That's what I thought as well. I thought that at any one point there would be 1 year remaining until cancelled. I could be wrong though, of course.

I would assume that its just a mechanism to keep managers tied up whilst limiting the compensation one has to pay to them if you sack them to at most 12 months notice? By it ending at the summer break the club can sack the manager or the manager chose to piss off with limited notice required and thus it probably works in a way for both sides?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 12:21:08
ready, Teddy, no

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15316869.No_contact_with_Sheringham_over_Town_post/?ref=twtrec

Obviously mates with TT, looking at that. Looks like a done deal, dream team. 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 12:24:47
I would assume that its just a mechanism to keep managers tied up whilst limiting the compensation one has to pay to them if you sack them to at most 12 months notice? By it ending at the summer break the club can sack the manager or the manager chose to piss off with limited notice required and thus it probably works in a way for both sides?

Exactly, B'pool have been through a lot of managers recently so a rolling contract works for them as they can sack them without a pay off and get another in quickly.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: brocklesby red on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 12:46:18
My understanding of rolling contracts is each party can give notice that they wish to end the contract on the anniversary date. In this case ,if Bowyer wanted to join another club,that club would pay compensation i.e. One years wages. If Blackpool want to sack him, then they pay him a years wages.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bilko on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:03:42
Latest I heard is Bowyer staying at Blackpool and it's now likely to be Sherringham with Paul Jewell as Director of Foitball if what I'm told is right quite honestly I'd rather have Bowyer as Sherringham win rate with Stevenage was the same as Luke Williams. Also heard there could be some massive invest in the club from outside and by all accounts we could have a large budget for next season. Ok it all has  to happen it's not bullshit that's what I've been told.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:04:31
Surely, on a rolling contract that's the same at any point in the contract. Either party can give notice and a years salary / compensation would have to be forthwith


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:08:24
Latest I heard is Bowyer staying at Blackpool and it's now likely to be Sherringham with Paul Jewell as Director of Foitball if what I'm told is right quite honestly I'd rather have Bowyer as Sherringham win rate with Stevenage was the same as Luke Williams. Also heard there could be some massive invest in the club from outside and by all accounts we could have a large budget for next season. Ok it all has  to happen it's not bullshit that's what I've been told.

Chang MKII ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:09:27
Latest I heard is Bowyer staying at Blackpool and it's now likely to be Sherringham with Paul Jewell as Director of Foitball if what I'm told is right quite honestly I'd rather have Bowyer as Sherringham win rate with Stevenage was the same as Luke Williams. Also heard there could be some massive invest in the club from outside and by all accounts we could have a large budget for next season. Ok it all has  to happen it's not bullshit that's what I've been told.

 :doh:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:19:10
Chang MKII ?

Seems that way. Easy to link names after they have appeared in the bookies list. If it was the other way around then it would hold slightly more merit.

Same regarding the investment. Only after Power announced we would have the largest (or one of the) in the division does this come out. Its 2+2=5 on the basis to have one of the largest budgets we would need to spend considerably more than we have in the last 2 seasons and the only way that could happen if you believe it, is with external investment.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:19:31
Chang MKII ?

Hard to know who is more full of shit.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RJack on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:20:52
Chang MKII ?
Yeah I reckon!  Also sources close to Sheringham have said there has been no approach according to the Adver


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:28:05
Yeah I reckon!  Also sources close to Sheringham have said there has been no approach according to the Adver

But Reg says above that its a done deal?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:38:57
I smell something


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:45:07
ready, Teddy, no

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15316869.No_contact_with_Sheringham_over_Town_post/?ref=twtrec

The Adver obviously watch this thread to see what they should be responding to..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:45:45
I smell something
Have you been out in a field with the cows and the male version of same?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:50:04
the only way that could happen if you believe it, is with external investment.

Not necessarily as Power has always stated he isn't interested in outside investors (I am also against it as they will want to make their money back and so the budgets will be smaller to make a return to them).

I don't reckon our budgets have been increased that much from last season, just that the budgets in L2 are quite a bit smaller than L1 so we will have a big budget compared to the other teams around us like Newport and Cheltenham.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:50:42
Its not going to be an ex- stfc player but it is someone that you will all know - should be announced tomorrow.

I told you lot last week manager wont be revealed until after Sunday (do you all know what is on Sunday) and he has the same surname as a well known Pork Pie and Sausages.
Another massive hint he only came into the bookies betting last Friday and is odds are now really short.
...
And for those who think I know jack shit as some have stated on the advertiser site then wait and see.

Latest I heard is Bowyer staying at Blackpool and it's now likely to be Sherringham with Paul Jewell as Director of Foitball

(https://media.tenor.com/images/402a51a9019718c028c18c3c4d2d6361/tenor.gif)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:50:43
BEEP BEEP - Warning Vehicle Reversing - BEEP BEEP

 :bandwagon:  The Bilko bus is in town..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 13:57:08
Poor ol' bilko. The feeling of thinking that you know something Town related before it's official is such a thrill.

 :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 14:18:07
Whenever I do get to hear some genuine ITK stuff, I keep my trap shut about it. That's probably much of the reason I get told such things in the first place... I don't feel the need to tell everybody that I know something.

Not that I hear anything nowadays, though. Not a sausage.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 14:25:19
mmmm, Tisdale pork pies

http://m.devonlive.com/exeter-city-boss-paul-tisdale-linked-with-vacant-manager-role-at-swindon-town/story-30361641-detail/story.html#xwcOOX3dU0tqlPZi.99

nothing of substance in there, are they really basing the entire story on Skybet odds??!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 15:22:23
Someone 'in the know' talking shit, well I never...

Just like all the other ITKers (apart from DRS)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fuzzy on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 15:33:30
Whenever I do get to hear some genuine ITK stuff, I keep my trap shut about it. That's probably much of the reason I get told such things in the first place... I don't feel the need to tell everybody that I know something.

Not that I hear anything nowadays, though. Not a sausage.

So, whose it gonna be then FH?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 15:35:34
So, whose it gonna be then FH?

Mehdi Kerrouche, player manager.

You heard it hear first.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 15:46:09
nothing of substance in there, are they really basing the entire story on Skybet odds??!

Local sports journalism (2017)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 15:50:39
New manager to be announced any time after tomorrow. It will be someone you might have heard of. Hint - his name is a name you may have heard if you've ever heard his name. The fans could be happy, but also might not. I would have rather have Mourinho but I understand he was never being considered.

Also hearing that Nathan Thompson is to decline a new contract to move into Amateur Boxing but someone else told me so you can't get mad at me if that's wrong because it's not my fault I'm just passing on the message.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 15:54:00

Also hearing that Nathan Thompson is to decline a new contract to move into Amateur Boxing but someone else told me so you can't get mad at me if that's wrong because it's not my fault I'm just passing on the message.


I've heard that as well, apparently in Portsmouth


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:02:33
Seems that way. Easy to link names after they have appeared in the bookies list. If it was the other way around then it would hold slightly more merit.

Same regarding the investment. Only after Power announced we would have the largest (or one of the) in the division does this come out. Its 2+2=5 on the basis to have one of the largest budgets we would need to spend considerably more than we have in the last 2 seasons and the only way that could happen if you believe it, is with external investment.


And not forgetting Jewell's son is a scout which adds another 2 to the 5. Bilko's post is a bit contradictory as if we were going to have a big budget next season then based on his track record you wouldn't go anywhere near Sheringham.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:05:04
Part of me still thinks it could be Steve Evans, for no reason what so ever. I would hope we have approached people like Hasselbaink, with him being out of work.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:11:53
Latest I heard is Bowyer staying at Blackpool and it's now likely to be Sherringham with Paul Jewell as Director of Foitball if what I'm told is right quite honestly I'd rather have Bowyer as Sherringham win rate with Stevenage was the same as Luke Williams. Also heard there could be some massive invest in the club from outside and by all accounts we could have a large budget for next season. Ok it all has  to happen it's not bullshit that's what I've been told.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/opOKOXjmHoamk/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:17:22
It's definitely Teddy Sheringham


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:17:49
You cunts should lay off bilko, it's what people always say we do, go at people like a pack of dogs.

Bilko had likely heard something from a trusted source/friend, fell for it hook, line and sinker, then unfortunately shared it, or the facts changed.

Wasn't it Audrey, a few years back, who'd been told by someone in the know who our next manager would be, then he lumped a wad on it and turned out to be wrong?

Probably similar here. Poor bilko.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:18:05
It's definitely Claudio Ranieri


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:19:05
It's definitely Jerrel Floyd Hasselbaink


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:19:07
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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:20:34
It's definitely Paul Lambert


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:20:39
Maybe it's all a smoke screen and Bilko is actually the new manager


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:23:22
JFH at the interview with Power....

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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:23:52
It's definitely Chris Jericho


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:30:05
No idea why Steve Evans is still favourite. He's signed 11 players for Mansfield now with two more expected shortly. Imagine Mansfield must be up there with favourites for promotion....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:30:07
You cunts should lay off bilko, it's what people always say we do, go at people like a pack of dogs.

Pah, had he said he was only passing on what he'd heard you'd have a point. But he said

Quote
And for those who think I know jack shit as some have stated on the advertiser site then wait and see.

I like Bilko posting rumours, but he's going to get some stick when he comes out with that then contradicts himself!



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:31:42
No idea why Steve Evans is still favourite. He's signed 11 players for Mansfield now with two more expected shortly. Imagine Mansfield must be up there with favourites for promotion....

Presume not much money being laid down so the odds simply haven't shifted?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:32:06
No idea why Steve Evans is still favourite. He's signed 11 players for Mansfield now with two more expected shortly. Imagine Mansfield must be up there with favourites for promotion....

5/1 favourites for the title and 5/4 favourites to be promoted.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 16:38:57
Looks like the ladies team also needs a manager too now.  :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 17:15:24
Looks like the ladies team also needs a manager too now.  :D

He's quit to manage the men's team, obviously.

WARRAWA!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 17:45:16
Now its been formally announced that Thomas Tuchel has left Borussia Dortmundno doubt Power can get him installed here fairly sharpish....

Hopefully that will be enough to get him installed as the favourite by many bookies?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 18:32:42
Well we can cross Arsene Wenger off the shortlist as he too has bottled it and opted to stay at the gunners.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 19:22:54
Well we can cross Arsene Wenger off the shortlist as he too has bottled it and opted to stay at the gunners.

lucky escape!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 19:54:40
Have we got one yet?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 21:19:01
Have we got one yet?

You're never going to believe this...


no.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 21:39:57
You're never going to believe this...


no.

Ok, I'll check back next week then.

I presume we are waiting until the Champions League final is out of the way


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 22:04:01
Yeah, plus our perspective manager's hairdresser is on holiday in Ibiza for the next two weeks, so clearly we can't sign him until after then.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, 22:59:19
Yeah, plus our perspective manager's hairdresser is on holiday in Ibiza for the next two weeks, so clearly we can't sign him until after then.

That's a new prospective on the situation


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 07:19:25
Did we ever find out what team Bilko played for?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 07:19:32
Did we ever find out what team Bilko played for?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 08:04:13
Wasnt it woking or something


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 08:07:03
Pinocchio F.C


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 08:15:26
According to Twitter ASD is away on holiday for the next week or so, I assume that will delay matters further?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 08:20:55
According to Twitter ASD is away on holiday for the next week or so, I assume that will delay matters further?

I don't think the club should delay getting a new manager in because the fucking press officer is off on his jollies..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 08:26:17
I don't think the club should delay getting a new manager in because the fucking press officer is off on his jollies..

It's difficult to arrive at any other conclusion, other than Power is up to his usual trick of leaving it until the last minute to save a few bob on wages etc.

After all, last season when we only needed to sign a few new players he'd already got in John Goddard by mid May.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 08:27:21
Did we ever find out what team Bilko played for?

Melchester Rovers


Title: Re:
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 08:28:32
According to Twitter ASD is away on holiday for the next week or so, I assume that will delay matters further?

According to ASD himself, it will still be announced regardless. We had this discussion a few days ago.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 08:59:34
It's difficult to arrive at any other conclusion, other than Power is up to his usual trick of leaving it until the last minute to save a few bob on wages etc.

After all, last season when we only needed to sign a few new players he'd already got in John Goddard by mid May.


Hes been at waterford anyway


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 09:26:38
According to ASD himself, it will still be announced regardless. We had this discussion a few days ago.

Didn't see that, I was only going (tongue in cheek) on the earlier posts that stated as fact that it would be delayed if the press officer was away.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 10:47:54
The more I think about it, the more i think It'll be Teddy Sheringham.

He's realistic and I've seen a few people post it's him on the fans group.

If true we've dropped a long way from Evans to Sheringham but it is what it is.

Pre season starts in a month, lets just get this done.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Trashbat? on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 11:14:32

I've seen a few people post it's him on the fans group.


Please tell me you aren't referring to the Facebook fan group?!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 11:16:34
Please tell me you aren't referring to the Facebook fan group?!

I'm clutching at straws here.

It's mainly a gut feeling tbh hope I'm wrong. Sheringham just fits


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Trashbat? on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 11:18:58
I think you would be clutching at brain cells in that group


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 11:29:11
I think you would be clutching at brain cells in that group

Some members are alright.

Others, well........Lets just say i'd agree with you 100%


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sgt rock on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 11:59:39
What's Ronnie Moore up to these days?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 12:01:14
Probably betting on his team to lose


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 12:49:17
Some members are alright.

Others, well........Lets just say i'd agree with you 100%

They must love you.  How many times have you been called a Happy Clapper or a member of the Glad all Over Brigade today?

The "Power out whatever it takes (as long as that means that I don't have to move from behind my keyboard) brigade" love talking crap.  As soon as you challenge them they just turn to name calling and abuse which amuses me greatly :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 12:55:35
There have been comments about not celebrating promotion to League One (should it happen). So a few of us refer to those people as the 'up where we belong brigade'  :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 13:09:49
There have been comments about not celebrating promotion to League One (should it happen). So a few of us refer to those people as the 'up where we belong brigade'  :D

They could re-record this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvi1jpREfTI


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bilko on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 13:33:26
I play for Bullshit Rovers - seems I got a bit of stick on here some if you throwing mud at me well let's see what happens


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 13:50:23
TBF if anyone had come on here claiming an announcement would be tomorrow, or next week, or this is who will be manager and they were consistently wrong then they would get mud thrown at them too.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 13:51:39
I play for Bullshit Rovers - seems I got a bit of stick on here some if you throwing mud at me well let's see what happens

Your comments entertain, however though I've not been on here long I'm yet to see you get it right yet.

Now Bowyer said no (twice) who do you think it'll be?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 13:59:55

The "Power out whatever it takes (as long as that means that I don't have to move from behind my keyboard) brigade" love talking crap.  As soon as you challenge them they just turn to name calling and abuse which amuses me greatly :D

The dude that is a Cheltenham fan is very amusing, seems to think his opinion is gospel


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 14:25:49
The dude that is a Cheltenham fan is very amusing, seems to think his opinion is gospel
Especially enjoyed him having a go at people who weren't bothered if Reading won the play-offs because "they're our local rivals". Unlike, erm, Cheltenham?


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 14:27:23
Quote
TBF if anyone had come on here claiming an announcement would be tomorrow, or next week, or this is who will be manager and they were consistently wrong then they would get mud thrown at them too.
this!

I quite like reading the rumours, don't care they are wrong/fluid, but don't be surprised at a bit of being Chang shamed!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 14:32:46
I quite like reading the rumours, don't care they are wrong/fluid, but don't be surprised at a bit of being Chang shamed!
Spot on, I treat them all with a block of salt tho TBH..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 14:33:51
this!

I quite like reading the rumours, don't care they are wrong/fluid, but don't be surprised at a bit of being Chang shamed!
Me too, helps pass the time, a harmless distraction IMO.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 15:37:45
I play for Bullshit Rovers - seems I got a bit of stick on here some if you throwing mud at me well let's see what happens

You came in here giving it the big old 'I know something you don't know' gave us criptic clues and proceeded to be completely and utterly wrong.

So, what do you expect?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 15:38:01
If Sheringham hadn't managed Stevenage he'd be exactly the sort of name people would be salivating over the prospect of.  For that reason alone I want him, now that nobody else does, and I hate the fucker (not sure why, although his inclusion in the England team at the expense of Owen in earlier 98 WC games has a lot to do with it, but never liked him before then either).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 15:44:48
You came in here giving it the big old 'I know something you don't know' gave us criptic clues and proceeded to be completely and utterly wrong.

So, what do you expect?

They weren't criptic. They weren't even very cryptic....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 15:51:12
I'm impressed that bilko keeps plucking away at this.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Trashbat? on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 15:58:07
he has the same surname as a well known Pork Pie and Sausages.
Another massive hint he only came into the bookies betting last Friday and is odds are now really short.

If you cant guess who that is then you must have gone to a different school to me.

This is my favourite Bilko quote, if only because it makes me think he went to a school where manufacturers of pork products and betting were subjects.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:11:43
Will we get a new manager before next season's fixture list is published?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:12:11
I heard the manager of the Dog & Duck turned down the job as he wanted to bring in Doris from behind the bar as his experienced No 2 but Power refused to pay her in tips so he wasn't going anywhere without his No 2.

Then it was offered to Fred who runs the local park team and has been successful unfortunately he got a better offer by supermarine cutting their grass


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:12:33
Quote from: Audrey's Bellend
Will we get a new manager before next season's fixture list is played?

fixed it for you


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:14:00
They weren't criptic. They weren't even very cryptic....

Proper cryptic crossword style clues would be much more fun....

Girl phones for pork in Norfolk (10)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:14:56
I heard the manager of the Dog & Duck turned down the job as he wanted to bring in Doris from behind the bar as his experienced No 2 but Power refused to pay her in tips so he wasn't going anywhere without his No 2.

Then it was offered to Fred who runs the local park team and has been successful unfortunately he got a better offer by supermarine cutting their grass


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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:17:15
This is my favourite Bilko quote, if only because it makes me think he went to a school where manufacturers of pork products and betting were subjects.

Calne


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:20:21
Apart from the local press who have not actually quoted one source,apart from Evans who did not actually personally turn it down who has turned us down ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:27:52
Apart from the local press who have not actually quoted one source,apart from Evans who did not actually personally turn it down who has turned us down ?

Haven't you heard? EVERYONE IS REJECTING US !¡!¡!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:28:13
No one has actually turned down the job, Cotterill and Bowyer both said they wouldn't be interested if they were approached (were being the operative word).

Unfortunately it seems our fans want a daily account from Power what he did that day, yes it's taking a while to get a manager in but it's better to take an extra few days than rush into someone like Williams again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:31:53
I heard the manager of the Dog & Duck turned down the job as he wanted to bring in Doris from behind the bar as his experienced No 2 but Power refused to pay her in tips so he wasn't going anywhere without his No 2.

Then it was offered to Fred who runs the local park team and has been successful unfortunately he got a better offer by supermarine cutting their grass


Oh my goodness you have done a banter


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:40:37
Regular wine should keep the doctor away (8}


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:40:39
I'm impressed that bilko keeps plucking away at this.



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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:40:53
Will we get a new manager before next season's fixture list is published?

June 9th would be a good day to bury some possibly very underwhelming news.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:42:20
But Power has already played his cards as to what kind of manager he wants - experienced, proven success at getting out of L2, willing to go for someone already employed if necessary.

Dangling the league's largest playing budget and the promise of a hands-off approach from himself.

Anyone who obviously falls short of that criteria will instantly be branded the cheap option, only option, yes-man option and the negativity will continue


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 16:45:16
Haven't you heard? EVERYONE IS REJECTING US !¡!¡!

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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 17:01:10
But Power has already played his cards as to what kind of manager he wants - experienced, proven success at getting out of L2, willing to go for someone already employed if necessary.

Dangling the league's largest playing budget and the promise of a hands-off approach from himself.

Anyone who obviously falls short of that criteria will instantly be branded the cheap option, only option, yes-man option and the negativity will continue

Bizarre that Power would make such a rod for his own back.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 17:02:37
People would be complaining if he said nothing.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 17:03:21
People would be complaining if he said nothing.

I think the last 4 words are superfluous?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 17:04:18
I think the last 4 words are superfluous?

True dat.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 17:17:36
True dat.
Concurred.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 17:53:59
There have been comments about not celebrating promotion to League One (should it happen). So a few of us refer to those people as the 'up where we belong brigade'  :D

:D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Mother Brown on Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 22:40:49
Proper cryptic crossword style clues would be much more fun....

Girl phones for pork in Norfolk (10)
Walsingham.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 10:48:41
Regular wine should keep the doctor away (8}

Laxativechablisappledaily?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 10:50:41
Laxativechablisappledaily?

 :)

Currently playing cricket for Sri Lanka.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 11:11:54
:)

Currently playing cricket for Sri Lanka.
Who, Sheringham???


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 11:47:07
For those interested in such things, Edward Sheringham is now evens fav.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 11:48:55
For those interested in such things, Edward Sheringham is now evens fav.

It doesn't matter anymore. We've all given up on the appointment. Selection by committee is the way forward.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 11:50:50
Maybe we should have a poll - time and hour - of the appointment. £5 a go.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 12:03:27
Maybe we should have a poll - time and hour - of the appointment. £5 a go.

Sounds like this should be a post in the GE thread about Tory policy re GP's.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 12:06:52
€25 a pop for a GP appointment in Ireland. €75 for a visit to A&E


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 13:10:12
On the Paul Tisdale front. It seems crazy that we haven't ever tried or have struggled to lure somebody based in Chippenham to manage Swindon.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RJack on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 13:16:01
Can't see it being Sheringham. If Power has learned from his previous mistakes I don't believe he will take the gamble on him if he wants us to return to L1 football next season.

Saying that bringing in an experience manager hasn't always paid off for some clubs either but Sheringham to me would be too much of a risk to our league status.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 13:27:50
Whilst Sheringham doesn't come close to fitting Power's supposed criteria, we'd have to be unbelievably shit to drop out of this league.  If Blackpool can bounce straight back . . .


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 14:13:44
No one has actually turned down the job, Cotterill and Bowyer both said they wouldn't be interested if they were approached (were being the operative word).

Unfortunately it seems our fans want a daily account from Power what he did that day, yes it's taking a while to get a manager in but it's better to take an extra few days than rush into someone like Williams again.

Seriously, nobody knows knows who has been approached, who has been offered the job, who has been discounted, who in on the shortlist.

Stop trying to pass of your opinion as fact, you know as much as the rest of us....not a lot or even nothing


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 15:16:14
On the Paul Tisdale front. It seems crazy that we haven't ever tried or have struggled to lure somebody based in Chippenham to manage Swindon.
I used to work with his Brother in law and he didn't think Tisdale would ever leave Exeter without being pushed, rejected approaches from Swansea and Southampton back when they were in the football league. There's a fine line between loyalty and lack of ambition....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 16:01:38
or having a job that makes you happy and fits with your own personal life and goals?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 16:28:48
Some doom and gloom for you (sorry)

I hear the clubs a mess and nothings changing.

The next coach will be a yes man, and just a coach.

great a  :clap:






 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 16:34:59
Who told you that?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fuzzy on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 16:44:40
He heard it whispered by the grass........


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 16:49:43
Some doom and gloom for you (sorry)

I hear the clubs a mess and nothings changing.

The next coach will be a yes man, and just a coach.

great a  :clap:






 

You 'heard'.... Well that's good enough for me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 16:51:25
Did Marvin Gaye sing it to you in a dream?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 16:52:38
and they just said... "The club is a mess".


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 16:54:36
I can't tell you.

It isn't 1st hand. However they've come up trumps before.

It's reliable enough to make me feel really grumpy.

Time will tell i hope it utter BS but powers losing interest and doesn't care. would explain the lack of anything

People who know me think im over chipper to the point of delusional. I'm not today  :cry:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 16:56:42
Can't or won't tell?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 16:57:37
Given the way Power runs the club, I'm not sure how anyone on the inside would know much more than we do.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 17:06:02
Some doom and gloom for you (sorry)

I hear the clubs a mess and nothings changing.

The next coach will be a yes man, and just a coach.

great a  :clap:






 
Didn't an ex-player say the way the club was run was a bit of a shambles?

I'm beginning to think Power isn't some evil owner but just a useless businessman.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 17:12:55
I can't tell you.

It isn't 1st hand. However they've come up trumps before.

It's reliable enough to make me feel really grumpy.

Time will tell i hope it utter BS but powers losing interest and doesn't care. would explain the lack of anything

People who know me think im over chipper to the point of delusional. I'm not today  :cry:
Another fucker making out he's ITK...... :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 17:17:31
I don't think even Power is ITK


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 17:24:04
Townend80 is the admin of the facebook fans group. Do with that knowledge whatever you will.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 17:26:19
Townend80 is the admin of the facebook fans group. Do with that knowledge whatever you will.

Also a member of the very elite group of members here with more negative karma than posts. Impressive stuff.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 17:28:55
Townend80 is the admin of the facebook fans group. Do with that knowledge whatever you will.

Wasn't he slating the people that post in that group the other day?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 17:32:40
Wind-up merchant?

If someone was leaking stuff out of the club, we'd all know by now.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 17:38:35
Another fucker making out he's ITK...... :hmmm:

He didn't really say much though, other than a "yes man" will be installed. The bit about the club being run shambolically is hardly controversial.

And yes he is usually overly optimistic. ITK probably not, but definitely optimistic.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 17:59:21
I am going to join it, I have heard from good authority (but I cannot tell you who they are) that the new manager when installed is going to be a human being.....
Feel free to spread that one around.....  ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 18:03:42
Whoever it is, I'm not going to get in a flap over the appointment before a ball is even kicked in anger.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 18:15:04
I'd imagine he's just had one of the posters on that group who was once right on something DM him with some crap. I remember when I used to try arguing with them I got all sorts of messages 'proving' how bad Power was. Crap like he's lost all his money gambling and Reading u23's will be playing at the CG next year, it's almost amusing that they can make this shit up.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 18:42:10
I am going to join it, I have heard from good authority (but I cannot tell you who they are) that the new manager when installed is going to be a human being.....
Feel free to spread that one around.....  ;)

Hmm, not good enough.  I won't be happy unless the now retired AlphaGo changes sports and takes on the reign's.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 19:15:05
Also a member of the very elite group of members here with more negative karma than posts. Impressive stuff.

New for me usually getting accused of being a happy clapper and founding member of the 'glad all over brigade'



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 19:16:10
Townend80 is the admin of the facebook fans group. Do with that knowledge whatever you will.

Correct


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 19:17:15
Wasn't he slating the people that post in that group the other day?

The doom and gloomers I slate. I can't stand fans that assume the worst case scenario


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Trashbat? on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 19:19:50
The doom and gloomers I slate. I can't stand fans that assume the worst case scenario

Yet you have come on here spreading unfounded rumours of doom and gloom!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 19:21:23
The doom and gloomers I slate. I can't stand fans that assume the worst case scenario

 :eek:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 19:21:39
All I'm saying it's coming from someone who is in contact with people with in the club. They have come up trumps before. I hope it's bullshit. I hope it's bullshit, doesn't make sense to me either. I'm just telling you what I've heard. It's not 1st hand. In a weeks time I'd love you all to take the piss when we appoint JFH. Fingers crossed that's the case


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 19:23:43
Yet you have come on here spreading unfounded rumours of doom and gloom!
On this occasion. I also won't abuse people for being positive (like doom and gloomers) 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 19:28:54
The doom and gloomers I slate. I can't stand fans that assume the worst case scenario

No manager
No players
No pre-season
No plan
No hope

Other than that it's all good.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 19:37:43
Visions of power in the board room "I'm going to appoint a yes man and nothing is changing", person outside with cup pressed to door, Fuck best tell my mate on Facebook the breaking news.

Of all the ITK bullshit that people post this has to be the weakest of them all. At least lie and give us a manager name!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 20:15:12
I've been thinking about Powers options and trying to put myself in his position. Let's face it no-one on here really knows who it's going to be do they?

So, did he decide to ditch W&E after we were relegated with the mindset that if he managed the great escape they'd be here in August? Or had he decided some time before the trapdoor opened that they were going? It's a significant question because if it's after we were relegated then his hunt for a successor would surely have to wait a bit until the playoffs were concluded and the end of season managerial merry go round started freeing up potential victims, sorry applicants. If it's before we were relegated is surely would have given him time to sound out potential victims via their skuzzy agents with loaded hypothetical questions nudge, nudge, thus giving him a clearer indication of who might slot in and have them in place ready for the player contracts release dates.

I'm no nearer an answer but some of you ITK wallahs may have?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 20:57:16
I've been thinking about Powers options and trying to put myself in his position. Let's face it no-one on here really knows who it's going to be do they?

So, did he decide to ditch W&E after we were relegated with the mindset that if he managed the great escape they'd be here in August? Or had he decided some time before the trapdoor opened that they were going? It's a significant question because if it's after we were relegated then his hunt for a successor would surely have to wait a bit until the playoffs were concluded and the end of season managerial merry go round started freeing up potential victims, sorry applicants. If it's before we were relegated is surely would have given him time to sound out potential victims via their skuzzy agents with loaded hypothetical questions nudge, nudge, thus giving him a clearer indication of who might slot in and have them in place ready for the player contracts release dates.

I'm no nearer an answer but some of you ITK wallahs may have?

I don't think there's much mystery to Power... he's been at the club long enough now for us to know how he operates. He likes to do things on the cheap. As things stand there won't be much money coming in from season tickets, nobody seems to want Vigs, and pay outs from the FL will drop for being in Div 4.

Therefore as with previous seasons, everything will be last minute, to try and save a few bob. 

This could be compared with say 06 after the Iffy relegation.  By this time Dennis Wise/Gus Poyet had come in were engaged on an audit of the club..and looking to  recruit new players.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 21:01:15
Also, on our last trip to the basement by 1st June, Di Canio had already been here 12 days.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 21:21:38
and before that Wise was in on 22nd May 2006.
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Think you are being a bit harsh flaming townender for bullshit.

he should be being flamed for providing absolutely no rumours whatsoever.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 21:50:14
and before that Wise was in on 22nd May 2006.
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Think you are being a bit harsh flaming townender for bullshit.

he should be being flamed for providing absolutely no rumours whatsoever.

Thank you. This is a forum for discussions after all. I'm not in the habit of sturring up shit. I'm not privy to boardroom talk nor do I pretend to know everything that goes on. Someone who I trust told me some worrying news and I thought I'd put it up for discussion on a forum, and got toally canned for it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 21:51:41
I say we chuck you in the lake and see if you sink......


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 21:53:59
What weighs the same as a duck?


Title: Re:
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 22:22:54
I could see part of an argument that Power has lost some interest or more that Waterford is a bit more fun. He has less of a financial commitment there, the fans are more grateful he rescued the club and there is less scrutiny with a bit of the craic thrown in when he visits.

His other commitments might also explain why he wants to appoint an experienced manager who he can leave to get on with it. Clearly he took his eye off the ball the last season and Tim did him no favours.

What was interesting was in his BBC Wilts interview recently he talked about investing in players like Luongo and Byrne to then sell on at a profit to bring down the debt.

Other than Vigs, he hasn't 'speculated to accumulate' on transfer fees for 2 years. We don't know why the change in direction from Power, is it the training ground plans, Waterford, fingers in too many pies or just he got too clever and sailed too close to the wind with the squad depth and Williams in charge. Be a good question to ask if he would answer any questions!

Sent from my HTC One M9


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 22:40:24
Thank you. This is a forum for discussions after all. I'm not in the habit of sturring up shit. I'm not privy to boardroom talk nor do I pretend to know everything that goes on. Someone who I trust told me some worrying news and I thought I'd put it up for discussion on a forum, and got toally canned for it.
Except you haven't actually said what the worrying news is have you?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 22:45:41
What weighs the same as a duck?
Another duck?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 22:48:44
wood?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 23:34:08
Except you haven't actually said what the worrying news is have you?
He has, it's this:
Some doom and gloom for you (sorry)

I hear the clubs a mess and nothings changing.

The next coach will be a yes man, and just a coach.

great a  :clap:
You can take your own view on how newsworthy or credible/reliable it is etc etc but he has said what it is.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 1, 2017, 23:34:40
Thank you. This is a forum for discussions after all. I'm not in the habit of sturring up shit. I'm not privy to boardroom talk nor do I pretend to know everything that goes on. Someone who I trust told me some worrying news and I thought I'd put it up for discussion on a forum, and got toally canned for it.
Ah bless. Has anyone called you a cunt yet?


Title: Re:
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 00:48:53
I could see part of an argument that Power has lost some interest or more that Waterford is a bit more fun. He has less of a financial commitment there, the fans are more grateful he rescued the club and there is less scrutiny with a bit of the craic thrown in when he visits.

His other commitments might also explain why he wants to appoint an experienced manager who he can leave to get on with it. Clearly he took his eye off the ball the last season and Tim did him no favours.

What was interesting was in his BBC Wilts interview recently he talked about investing in players like Luongo and Byrne to then sell on at a profit to bring down the debt.

Other than Vigs, he hasn't 'speculated to accumulate' on transfer fees for 2 years. We don't know why the change in direction from Power, is it the training ground plans, Waterford, fingers in too many pies or just he got too clever and sailed too close to the wind with the squad depth and Williams in charge. Be a good question to ask if he would answer any questions!

Sent from my HTC One M9

Good post. It's against this background that we have to question our continued FL status.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 04:23:27
Tbf, he's pretty busy at Waterford at the moment, doing interviews. You know, the things an owner does

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBFK8p6XcAENj4q?format=jpg


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, June 2, 2017, 06:24:21
The guy next to him looks like someone's photo shopped My Bean's face onto Arsene Wenger.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Friday, June 2, 2017, 07:11:04
Return of Statement Friday..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, June 2, 2017, 07:12:13
Good post. It's against this background that we have to question our continued FL status.

You have to. Again. And again. And again


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, June 2, 2017, 07:17:49
He has, it's this:You can take your own view on how newsworthy or credible/reliable it is etc etc but he has said what it is.
That's hardly news though is it. The club's in a mess and the next manager will be a coach and answerable to Power.........  :zzz:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Friday, June 2, 2017, 08:34:33
Didn't an ex-player say the way the club was run was a bit of a shambles?

I'm beginning to think Power isn't some evil owner but just a useless businessman.

I think it was Jack Barthram, but I took that more as a swipe at the backroom staff. Surely a player doesn't know what goes on at Boardroom level?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 08:58:27
You have to. Again. And again. And again

I'm not alone with my concerns. There are a growing number of Town fans questioning the future direction of the club under Power.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 09:04:08
I think it was Jack Barthram, but I took that more as a swipe at the backroom staff. Surely a player doesn't know what goes on at Boardroom level?

I am always somewhat dubious about players having a swipe at the club after they have been released?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Friday, June 2, 2017, 09:44:37
Didn't JSW have a pop as well? Although from what I've heard, the guy was an absolute bell end which is why he ended having to go back to QPR to get treatment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Friday, June 2, 2017, 10:47:50
If one of us had done what he did at our works Christmas party we'd have been sacked. No wonder the club cut all ties to him. Disgusting.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 2, 2017, 10:55:13
Released players having a strop isn't exactly a new thing.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, June 2, 2017, 10:55:32
I'm on the edge of my seat......


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 10:59:51
I'm on the edge of my seat......


Thrill-seeker


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 11:00:48
If one of us had done what he did at our works Christmas party we'd have been sacked. No wonder the club cut all ties to him. Disgusting.

Which was? Or are you being a WUP?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, June 2, 2017, 11:02:53
Ooh spill Dan


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 11:12:52
If one of us had done what he did at our works Christmas party we'd have been sacked. No wonder the club cut all ties to him. Disgusting.

What was he doing at your works Christmas Party in the first place?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, June 2, 2017, 11:28:25
What was he doing at your works Christmas Party in the first place?  :hmmm:

Had to work as a postie to earn some extra money as the club wages are so bad ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 11:31:36
Update on the bookies odds

There has been new money for Dennis Wise, David Flitcroft and Paul Hartley.

Gets the pulses racing, them!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, June 2, 2017, 11:34:08
Paul Jewell 33/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 2, 2017, 11:47:57
I'm not offended by the notion of Paul Hartley. Flitcroft knows this level and has got a team out of L2. Neither will please the louder fans.

Dennis Wise? Left us very quickly last time around. No Ken Bates in football these days though.

Paul Jewell was a team mate of Power at Bradford and his sons job was probably a favour.

So there we have it, it'll be Jewell.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 12:02:10
He's been out of a job for 5 years. No thanks.

Is his lad still here?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 12:09:01
He's been out of a job for 5 years. No thanks.

Is his lad still here?

And 5 years before that to his last lengthy managing stint, 10 years interrupted by a short unsuccessful spell at Ipswich.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 12:12:35
Gus was the brains to Wise brawn


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: HorlocksLegs on Friday, June 2, 2017, 13:13:55
Could it be Fjortoft? Currently 12/1 on sky bet and tweeted this earlier.

https://twitter.com/JanAageFjortoft/status/870601749245177856


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Friday, June 2, 2017, 13:17:37
Could it be Fjortoft? Currently 12/1 on sky bet and tweeted this earlier.

https://twitter.com/JanAageFjortoft/status/870601749245177856

Now that is a good rumour.

But probably wide of the mark as he's a TV pundit who doesn't do any coaching as far as I know.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, June 2, 2017, 13:17:59
Somebody asked betting company to give them some odds


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 13:30:35
More money for Flitcroft and new money for Keith Curle.

Nobody has a clue, do they. At least it spices up the break a bit!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 13:34:52
More money for Flitcroft and new money for Keith Curle.

Nobody has a clue, do they. At least it spices up the break a bit!

Flitcroft would be an OK appointment... unspectacular but knows the trade. Bit north western though throughout his career, so coming here might be a culture shock.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 13:39:06
Seems a sound sort.

http://www.theleaguepaper.com/featured/7867/good-bad-ugly-david-flitcroft-looks-back-on-career-moments-at-rochdale-barnsley-and-bury/


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, June 2, 2017, 14:20:49
Fjørtoft appears to have entered the betting based solely on the fact he passed through Swindon on a train to Cardiff from Paddington.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, June 2, 2017, 14:56:00
I drove past Swindon on the M4 today.  Im now 6th favourite.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 15:14:45
Fjørtoft appears to have entered the betting based solely on the fact he passed through Swindon on a train to Cardiff from Paddington.

How odd.

But are you sure he doesn't want to give up a lucrative TV career in his own country where he can be with family and friends to manage a fruitcake of a 4th division English club?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, June 2, 2017, 15:29:24
He only does CL games in Norway, he mostly does German TV for Bundesliga I think


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 15:45:58
Flitcroft would be an OK appointment... unspectacular but knows the trade. Bit north western though throughout his career, so coming here might be a culture shock.

I am sure he would be prepared to slum it for a while if the money was OK?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:04:02
One of those quite reliable Transfer feeds on Twitter is saying it's going to be Sheringham.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: HorlocksLegs on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:04:20
Hmm

https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/870657261978431488


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:04:26
Ian Dennis from BBC reporting also

https://twitter.com/iandennisbbc/status/870656097673240577


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:05:55
:(

no choice but to suck it and see, but very risky.

if true


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:10:16
The Stevenage chairman was pretty kind when he sacked him, said how unlucky he was with injuries and that their budget was one of the lowest in the league.
So I will wait and see before I pass judgement if true.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:12:37
so complimentary but sacked him anyway?!

yes of course wait and see, but if we can't react to whoever gets appointed at that time then it's going to be pretty dull


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:13:24
:(

no choice but to suck it and see, but very risky.

if true

If it is Teddy I can see TT still lurking around in the shadows.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:15:51
Sheringham may well be a brilliant manager for us, BUT, he is almost the polar opposite of the criteria Power laid out when the manager search began.

It's certainly another of Power's punts. Hope this one actually pays off this time.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:17:08
Last chance saloon isnt it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:18:02
Big risk if it is true, he has little experience at this level and the pressure would be on for an immediate bounce back to L1 so would not really get a honeymoon period

He has something to prove as well after flopping previously, I just hope if it is him he brings an experienced coaching staff with him to help  


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:18:47
If it is Teddy I can see TT still lurking around in the shadows.
There could be trouble with the TS monogrammed jackets


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:18:57
Underwhelmed if true. Although ex top level players usually work pretty well for us.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:20:33
If he hadn't managed Stevenage, he'd be exactly what 50% of the fanbase always call for - an ex-pro of high esteem looking to make a name for himself at a club with a rich history of success with such ex-pro's.

I hate him.

I'd love for him to be appointed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:21:08
BetVictor have deleted the market. SkyBet 1/4.

About as certain as it can be


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:22:35
Michael Reeves‏ @michaelreeves78  31s31 seconds ago
More
 #stfc have approached former England striker Teddy Sheringham to become their new manager, @AdverSport understands


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:23:08
Underwhelmed if true. Although ex top level players usually work pretty well for us.

If it wasn't for his Stevenage stint, it would be a typical Swindon Town appointment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:23:33
Underwhelmed if true. Although ex top level players usually work pretty well for us.

It is just about possible, that Town might be a better fit for Teddy than what Stevenage was.  It is also just about possible he may have learned something in nearly returning them to the Conference.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:25:03
I'd be fapping if not for his Stevenage job. Hopefully it was a case of him pissing against the wind, stats don't always tell the full story.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:26:02
At the end of the day, he will succeed, or not, based on player recruitment. I should imagine his name may be a bonus in attracting some.

May get Norris firing. I'll be down for 2 STs when the office re-opens.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:26:27
Wouldn't mind a Sheringham type appointment, although Sheringham particularly has a few too many links to Sherwood for me to be totally comfortable. Kinda reached the point now where I just want to see someone appointed though, so if it's Sheringham then so be it, could do a lot worse, now lets build a squad.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:27:19
it's certainly more interesting than a Drummy or Ramsay


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:29:48
Wouldn't mind a Sheringham type appointment, although Sheringham particularly has a few too many links to Sherwood for me to be totally comfortable. Kinda reached the point now where I just want to see someone appointed though, so if it's Sheringham then so be it, could do a lot worse, now lets build a squad.
Does seem a mite incestuous, I agree.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:32:20
Does seem a mite incestuous, I agree.

Football generally has a lot of the old boy's network to it, and I don't really mind if it's a recommendation, as long as it doesn't mean Sherwood is still involved directly.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:43:24
No doubt we will be signing Charlie shortly then....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:51:01
As others have said, if Stevenage hadn't had happened this would be a very exciting appointment.

Hopefully he has learnt and is actually a fairly exciting appointment nontheless.

Quietly happy that he will do well here.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:51:58
Worse win rate at Stevenage than Williams here.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:53:48
Quote
Chairman Phil Wallace said "Teddy has had the worst luck I’ve seen in the 16 years I’ve owned the football club. Normally we’d have one or two major ops on key players in a season but we’ve had more this season than the last three combined.

"You also occasionally lose points in the last few minutes of games but we’ve been in this situation in four of the last eight matches. However, we are where we are and the club have to make a change.

"Teddy came in having to work on a lower budget than we’ve had before and the lack of available funds has made it difficult to get the players he’d like. He’s given it his all but it hasn’t worked and now we have to thank him for his efforts and move on."


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:54:42
Worse win rate at Stevenage than Williams here.
Fuck that. Time to get behind him and hope HE recruits well.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:55:30
Worse win rate at Stevenage than Williams here.

should fit right in


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:56:01
I'd be fapping if not for his Stevenage job. Hopefully it was a case of him pissing against the wind, stats don't always tell the full story.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/01/teddy-sheringham-sacked-stevenage

Sort of what was suggested when he was sacked.

I'm pretty underwhelmed, however our lack of attacking threat and style of play will hopefully be changed by this appointment. I'm fucking sick of the sideways and backwards passing with 2 shots in a game bollocks


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, June 2, 2017, 16:56:38
Luke Norris lge 2 top scorer


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:05:43
What did Bilko say about Sheringham being appointed, with a DoF? Was it Paul Jewel?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:06:06
When I was looking up Williams win stats Wiki has a list of our managers, fuck me we have rattled through them recently, especially 2013 where we had 6 managers during the year...

S. Allen (1902–33)
Vizard (1933–39)
Harris (1939–40)
Page (1945–53)
Lindley (1953–55)
Head (1956–65)
D. Williams (1965–69)
Ford (1969–71)
Mackayp (1971–72)
L. Allen (1972–74)
D. Williams (1974–78)
Smith (1978–80)
Trollope (1980–83)
Beamish (1983–84)
Macari (1984–89)
Ardiles (1989–91)
Hoddlep (1991–93)
Gorman (1993–94)
Rowlandc (1994)
McMahon (1994–98)
Walshc (1998)
Quinn (1998–2000)
Todd (2000)
King (2000–01)
Evans (2001)
King (2001–05)
Onuora (2005–06)
Wise (2006)
A. Williamsc(2006)
Sturrock (2006–07)
Byrnec (2007–08)
Malpas (2008)
Byrnec (2008)
Wilson (2008–11)
Hart (2011)
Bodinc (2011)
Di Canio (2011–13)
Piccaretac (2013)
Miller & Wardc (2013)
MacDonald (2013)
Cooper (2013–15)
Powerc (2015)
Ling (2015)
L. Williams (2015–17)

So 17 before the premiership year (so 17 in 92 years) and then 28 in 23 years....

Stable it hasn't been!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:06:40
What did Bilko say about Sheringham being appointed, with a DoF? Was it Paul Jewel?

Yeah, and that there'll be outside investment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:07:57
Yeah, and that there'll be outside investment.

I will clutch these straws....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:10:53
I know this may not turn out to be relevant to his time here if he comes, from a Stevenage fan on Twitter:

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I wish. Maybe a case of us being the wrong club for him. Hate to say it, but the worst manager we've ever had...

He signed about 10 CMs and seemed to have virtually no idea on tactics or anything. You'd be better off with Westley (who is available)!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:13:37
Yeah, and that there'll be outside investment.
That'll be my 2 STs


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:15:27
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/01/teddy-sheringham-sacked-stevenage

Sort of what was suggested when he was sacked.

I'm pretty underwhelmed, however our lack of attacking threat and style of play will hopefully be changed by this appointment. I'm fucking sick of the sideways and backwards passing with 2 shots in a game bollocks

Looking at that they must have had a half decent start to the season to have been sacked after such a losing streak and still be 9 points above relegation.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:25:01
Good to see so many on that FB page really getting behind him. I've no doubt he'll be given every chance by our fans.

Fucking hell. I can understand why people would be underwhelmed but you'd think we'd just re-appointed Maplas with Hart as assistant.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:28:20
My opinion is it could of been a lot worse. We need to get behind him now.

Oh Teddy Teddy


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:30:19
What kind of character is he anyway? I hope he's got some oompf about him at least.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:33:36
Now being reported on Sky Sports News

'more to come once confirmed'


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:34:20
My opinion is it could of been a lot worse.

Exactly e.g. Drummy

Least he has some experience, played the game at the highest level for the best clubs in the country (and world) so knows his shit, he has a lot of people to convince but the first step towards that will be the player recruitment, what is done in the next 6 weeks will give an indicator on the type of style we will play and where we could realistically be finishing.

What makes me laugh is the same people slating his appointment were creaming over the thought of getting John Terry as manager, and even when we got PDC in, he did 30 odd games at Stevenage and didn't work for him, his reputation can only improve and I really hope he doeasn't do a Hoddle and bolt as soon as a bigger team come calling


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:34:46
Willing to give him a go. We all complained Williams lack of playing experience was evident last year and that's one thing Teddy had loads of..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:35:06
Good to see so many on that FB page really getting behind him. I've no doubt he'll be given every chance by our fans.

Fucking hell. I can understand why people would be underwhelmed but you'd think we'd just re-appointed Maplas with Hart as assistant.

I have reservations (most seem to have the same) but plenty of managers have had shit tenures followed by good ones at new employers.

From the moment that the scarf is over his head, he has my complete support.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:39:37
Willing to give him a go. We all complained Williams lack of playing experience was evident last year and that's one thing Teddy had loads of..

Plus he knows a lot of people in the game so can call on them for favours with players and advice.......


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:41:13
I have reservations (most seem to have the same) but plenty of managers have had shit tenures followed by good ones at new employers.

From the moment that the scarf is over his head, he has my complete support.

Yes. It being STFC, we need to wait for the scarf, but I think this could be a decent appointment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:42:21
Plus he knows a lot of people in the game so can call on them for favours with players and advice.......

Don't see us signing Devante Cole....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:42:33
his reputation can only improve

That's rather an assumption...

I have reservations (most seem to have the same) but plenty of managers have had shit tenures followed by good ones at new employers.

From the moment that the scarf is over his head, he has my complete support.

Entirely this, good luck to the fella, with maany of our fans he will definitely need it, even at 51 he is probably fitter than most of the squad last year so could get a game.

On a more practical level does anyone know what sort of style he played at Stevenage, as a player he was more 'continental' in style that the majority of his peers, how will he get on winning over the 'get it forward' brigade?  


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:45:03
BBC Reporting it on homepage and suggesting that TT's DoF role is being scrapped....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40134723


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:48:09
That's rather an assumption...

Entirely this, good luck to the fella, with maany of our fans he will definitely need it, even at 51 he is probably fitter than most of the squad last year so could get a game.

On a more practical level does anyone know what sort of style he played at Stevenage, as a player he was more 'continental' in style that the majority of his peers, how will he get on winning over the 'get it forward' brigade?  

Teddy came in to replace Westley a notorious anti-football merchant, maybe where it went wrong, if he tried to get them playing.  SAF's first rule of management....don't ask players to do what they're not capable of.

He will pretty much have tabula rasa with us, as we've so few players.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:48:22
That's rather an assumption...

Entirely this, good luck to the fella, with maany of our fans he will definitely need it, even at 51 he is probably fitter than most of the squad last year so could get a game.

On a more practical level does anyone know what sort of style he played at Stevenage, as a player he was more 'continental' in style that the majority of his peers, how will he get on winning over the 'get it forward' brigade?  
In May 2014, Sheringham was appointed as an attacking coach with West Ham United.[59] He was credited with a change in West Ham's style of play which led to a run of good form at the start of the 2014–15 season, earning striker Diafra Sakho the Premier League Player of the Month award for October 2014.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:52:28
Come on Power, get this confirmed and there is still time for a Friday Statement... you know you want to!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:56:42
In May 2014, Sheringham was appointed as an attacking coach with West Ham United.[59] He was credited with a change in West Ham's style of play which led to a run of good form at the start of the 2014–15 season, earning striker Diafra Sakho the Premier League Player of the Month award for October 2014.

That'll do me.

Whoooaaahh Teddy Teddy, Teddy Teddy Teddy Teddy Sheringham.

FUCK YEAH!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:57:19
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BBC Wiltshire Sport‏ @BBCWiltsSport  27s28 seconds ago
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 BBC Wiltshire understands Teddy Sheringham will NOT be the next Swindon Town manager.

Meh.

Didn't want him anyway.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, June 2, 2017, 17:58:49
Well BBC wilts are closer to the club than anyone else normally.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:00:20
Hahaha

 ::)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:00:54
Yes. It being STFC, we need to wait for the scarf, but I think this could be a decent appointment.

 :eek:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:01:38
so complimentary but sacked him anyway?!..............
Exactly how Power should have handled Williams last year...could perhaps have "swooped" for Teddy immediately he was sacked early February.

Like some, I would question whether Sheringham has quite that League Two "dog" about him that I would have liked after the bland managers we have endured, almost in reaction to PDC.  TS was certainly an intelligent footballer and may be able to attract and hopefully inspire next season's squad (when we get one).  Waiting for the scarf over head photo before I get mildly excited.

There was a very interesting article in today's Times about how another pretty decent no 10 had, against the pedigree he had shown as manager, turned out to be pretty successful in managing a club of some repute in Spain.  It was by a former teammate of his at Juventus, one Vince Pericard, who taught this No. 10 everything he knew.

Oh and well done to Costanza, ITK Costanza, for being the first to name Teddy Sheringham (I think...or was it Chang)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:02:44
:eek:


Yes, always best to wait for the scarf with STFC.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:02:49
 :doh: Fuck you, Costi!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:03:48
lolz


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:11:06
There is no smoke without fire so ...... Is Sherringham going to be assistant to someone else e.g. Bowyer / Tisdale?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:12:40
There is no smoke without fire so ...... Is Sherringham going to be assistant to someone else e.g. Bowyer / Tisdale?

Tim Sherwood.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:17:31
I was pleased when I read a couple of posts Teddy appointed.
Now I read on thisis he has been approached or on here maybe an assistance, what is going on.

Is he the manager?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:28:56
Is he the manager?  These are the questions we were asking about Sherwood and Williams (and Power even) last season.  Some crack European sides play with a virtual no 9, we go for the virtual manager


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:34:27
BBC Wilts might want to have word with BBC Sport as its still on the main page of the football section of the BBC website.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:35:36
There is no smoke without fire so ...... Is Sherringham going to be assistant to someone else e.g. Bowyer / Tisdale?


Or maybe, just maybe he was next on the list and just the latest to say no thanks.

Probably coming in with Klopp and Jose as DoF though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:40:17
Where did it actually come from, first source I saw was Ian Dennis at the BBC?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:40:36
Is he the manager?  These are the questions we were asking about Sherwood and Williams (and Power even) last season.  Some crack European sides play with a virtual no 9, we go for the virtual manager

I did suggest AlphaGo was out of work right now.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:43:38
Following the Evans rebuttal Sherwood was the man who Power tasked with finding LW's replacement, so if Sheringham has indeed been approached then it seems a last throw of the dice after a fruitless few weeks.

Very much jobs for the boys.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:49:09
I'd be fapping if not for his Stevenage job. Hopefully it was a case of him pissing against the wind, stats don't always tell the full story.

Exactly this, even the Stevenage Cairndow started injuries and one of the lowest budget in the league didn't help.
I'm optimistic about this,  he can attract a player and at least we should score some bloody goals!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:54:28
Quote from: Dr Pierre Chang
Following the Evans rebuttal Sherwood was the man who Power tasked with finding LW's replacement, so if Sheringham has indeed been approached then it seems a last throw of the dice after a fruitless few weeks.

Very much jobs for the boys.
I bloody hope you are just 'Changing' Chang. Sherwood brought us Luke Williams ffs.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, June 2, 2017, 18:59:52
Following the Evans rebuttal Sherwood was the man who Power tasked with finding LW's replacement, so if Sheringham has indeed been approached then it seems a last throw of the dice after a fruitless few weeks.

Very much jobs for the boys.

In the days that there was communication at the club, the whole ITK charade was mildly interesting because news could have leaked out. Now, unless Power has a habit of calling the ticket office boys and seeking their opinions on his running of the club, which I find unlikely, any attempt to be ITK is a bit tedious. Just have a laugh and speculate like everybody else rather than pass your imagination off as fact.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 19:06:05
Is he the manager?

No.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, June 2, 2017, 19:08:20
I bloody hope you are just 'Changing' Chang. Sherwood brought us Luke Williams ffs.
As a coach only...it was Power who saw fit to then employ him as our manager on a 5 year contract.


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, June 2, 2017, 19:23:19
You can't do a Chang after the event, that's not how it's supposed to work


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Friday, June 2, 2017, 19:35:52
It's definitely Teddy Sheringham

Called it Tuesday.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: magicroundaboutred on Friday, June 2, 2017, 19:37:00
Mate up North says radio is reporting Teddy has signed a 2 year deal.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Friday, June 2, 2017, 19:38:29
according to twitter its still on :hmmm:


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 2, 2017, 19:58:04
according to twitter its still on :hmmm:
If it's not I am surprised that the BBC haven't taken if off the website, still the 4th top story on the football bit?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Family at War on Friday, June 2, 2017, 20:01:25
Anyone tried Sheringham's Pies and Sausages?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Friday, June 2, 2017, 20:03:27
That's just an EFL transfer news page, similar to Tans Media i'd imagine, I wouldn't take any notice of that.
ive just noticed that  :-[ :doh:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, June 2, 2017, 20:09:32
Moosehead reckons we've offered him a deal but he's turned it down "according to his info"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 2, 2017, 20:09:34
Anyone tried Sheringham's Pies and Sausages?

Finally, time to get to the crux of the matter.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 2, 2017, 20:40:34
Moosehead reckons we've offered him a deal but he's turned it down "according to his info"
So what terms and conditions could Stevenage offer him that were acceptable that we can't?


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 2, 2017, 20:44:14
who knows, could be anything from location, through power being a cunt, all the way to not having the biggest budget in the league after all.

would love to know if there had been any interest from Sheringham, or whether we approached him and he said no straight away.

or whether its even true. seems likely there was interest to me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 2, 2017, 20:47:04
So what terms and conditions could Stevenage offer him that were acceptable that we can't?

Probably wages and playing budget.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Friday, June 2, 2017, 20:56:02
meanwhile all the other L2 teams are snapping up the dross, TICK TOCK Mr Power :crash:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chunkyhair on Friday, June 2, 2017, 21:08:42
Not on BBC  now.........


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 11:06:09
Adver Sports Desk‏ @AdverSport  5m5 minutes ago
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 Sources have told @AdverSport this morning that nothing has changed from our Sheringham story last night #stfc


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: cdakev on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 11:19:16
Not on Sky Bet anymore with suggests a deal has been done or maybe not.

Lee Power = Teddy we have been impressed with you interview and we would like to offer you the job.
Teddy = That's great news, what's the salary ?
Lee Power = £250 per week.
Teddy = You what ! Are you taking the piss ?
Lee Power = We could stretch to £260 per week.
Teddy = Piss off and don't waste my time !
Lee Power = Funny, That's what Steve Evans said.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 11:25:50
Or at PRO-AM golf tournament last week

Sherwood: Alright Ted, fancy a job bruv?
Sheringham: Yeah sound, geez


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 11:31:06
I find BBC Wilts reliable and am inclined to believe them, but they're not infallible. There may be some kind of pedantry/confusion going on over job title or role.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 11:37:31
I find BBC Wilts reliable and am inclined to believe them, but they're not infallible. There may be some kind of pedantry/confusion going on over job title or role.

Could just be negotiating budget/terms, but I think the definitive "not manager" suggests otherwise as you'd expect BBC Wilts "source" to be Power.

So yeah like you say, another role maybe.

Or Tactics Tim and Poundland Power (;)) are trying to talk him into investing.
Or Playing...
Or.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 11:38:04
Rest assured when a victim has been appointed Power will want maximum publicity and exposure. There'll be a hyped up breaking news annocement (announcing a press conference), then the time arrives and a handful of jurnos will crowd into the press room with Vic 'don't you know who I am' Morgan elbowing his way at the front to bring an exclusive for BBC/Wilts/Swindon. The adver will be listening into it and publish their story by plagerising the BBC story. Hi his site will go into meltdown as will Thisis.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 11:38:56
Hope it goes through. I'm warming to the idea of Our Ted - even if he's exactly the opposite of what Power said he was looking for.

Why is everything such a fucking drama with this club.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 11:42:33
I'm warming to the idea of Our Ted

Me too. I think I've managed to convince myself that Stevenage was a blip.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Townend80 on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 11:53:01
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15325851.Ready_Teddy_/ Could still be Teddy


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 12:05:10
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15325851.Ready_Teddy_/ Could still be Teddy

If it's teddy: Will he be a yes man coach like your source confirms?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 12:17:59
Rest assured when a victim has been appointed Power will want maximum publicity and exposure. There'll be a hyped up breaking news annocement (announcing a press conference), then the time arrives and a handful of jurnos will crowd into the press room with Vic 'don't you know who I am' Morgan elbowing his way at the front to bring an exclusive for BBC/Wilts/Swindon. The adver will be listening into it and publish their story by plagerising the BBC story. Hi his site will go into meltdown as will Thisis.

Dont you mean Shaun Hodgetts


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 14:51:10
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15325851.Ready_Teddy_/ Could still be Teddy
that was in the adver before BBC Wilts confirmed he turned it down or whatever


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 14:53:37
Moosehead reported that JFW turned us down and Tisdale wasn't interested.

Nice to be wanted, eh!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 15:09:20
Moosehead reported that JFW turned us down and Tisdale wasn't interested.

Nice to be wanted, eh!

Jamies Future Wife turned us down.
She's a wrong un.

@Iandennisbbc:
Wilts well connected. Pass on what I hear. TS had talks, sounded positive. Hear Jim Bentley possibility


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 15:16:40
Have to admit I had to google Jim Bentley. Looks a right hard bastard.

Oops, JFH


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 15:16:53
Jamies Future Wife turned us down.
She's a wrong un.

@Iandennisbbc:
Wilts well connected. Pass on what I hear. TS had talks, sounded positive. Hear Jim Bentley possibility

The Morecambe manager? I've largely been patient but that really would be scraping the barrel.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 15:17:12
My expectations have now dipped to probably more realistic levels over the last 24 hours.

Good luck to whoever wants/gets it. They'll need it.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 15:19:07
The Morecambe manager? I've largely been patient but that really would be scraping the barrel.

Fucking hell, I'd rather have kept Williams.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 15:21:52

Wilts well connected. Pass on what I hear. TS had talks, sounded positive. Hear Jim Bentley possibility


So the talks were positive and it's still on, or not?



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 15:26:16
My biggest gripe here is Sherwood being involved in the manager search. He was absolute teflon with regards to his involvement in interviews so should have no further involvement in the club.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 15:37:41
Morecombe are a fucking mess by the sounds of it. Wages being paid late, only 17 players on the books and all sorts.

Some are bemoaning their league position saying he should go, with complaints about poor performances and the like. Others are claiming he's worked miracles and deserves a shot at a bigger club. Some reckon it would be disastrous if he left them. Make of that what you will.

http://giraffe.arvixe.com/~iomkeith/shrimpsvoices/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=21547


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 15:49:16
My biggest gripe here is Sherwood being involved in the manager search. He was absolute teflon with regards to his involvement in interviews so should have no further involvement in the club.

Agreed


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 16:07:39
Bentley would be OK.  Perhaps get Royce Brownlie back as assistant


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 16:14:49
Plenty of managers have experience of getting teams out of league two, there are managers in there who have experience and could do a good job at town, Nathan jones and Gareth ainsworth to name a couple.  Whilst Bentley could prove a good manager with bigger budget he is still a massive risk, highest league position is 11th in what six years in league two. Not good enough


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 16:20:04
Plenty of managers have experience of getting teams out of league two, there are managers in there who have experience and could do a good job at town, Nathan jones and Gareth ainsworth to name a couple.  Whilst Bentley could prove a good manager with bigger budget he is still a massive risk, highest league position is 11th in what six years in league two. Not good enough

But he's kept Morecambe in the league in that time... quite an achievement.

Whoever comes in is going to need an instant knowledge of how to put together a Div 4 squad on the cheap, in a few weeks.

Bentley fits that requirement.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 16:20:20
Dont you mean Shaun Hodgetts
and him ☺️


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 16:27:29
But he's kept Morecambe in the league in that time... quite an achievement.

Whoever comes in is going to need an instant knowledge of how to put together a Div 4 squad on the cheap, in a few weeks.

Bentley fits that requirement.

What a mess...it's getting boring now.

I'm in Greece on hols...fucking messages about Sherringham a morning.

Looked upon as a poison chalice methinks.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 16:48:08
What a mess...it's getting boring now.

I'm in Greece on hols...fucking messages about Sherringham a morning.

Looked upon as a poison chalice methinks.

The downside of modern communications... back in 70's/80's I could quite happily swan off to Greece for a few weeks island hopping, completely oblivious to anything happening at STFC. 

It's really what the close season is for, a chance for fans to recharge batteries... sadly not presently an option for Town fans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 17:04:33
My biggest gripe here is Sherwood being involved in the manager search. He was absolute teflon with regards to his involvement in interviews so should have no further involvement in the club.

Tim Sherwood will be our next manager.

He'll be put in interim charge whilst we still look. Come October when his 2 years post Villa are up, he will be officially appointed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 17:19:58
Tim Sherwood will be our next manager.

He'll be put in interim charge whilst we still look. Come October when his 2 years post Villa are up, he will be officially appointed.
:suicide:


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 18:43:32
Morecambe have been royally fucked all season through no fault of the manager, not sure it's clear even more who actually owns the club.

Bentley is popular with majority of fans as shown by them clubbing together and paying his FA fine earlier in the season.

30+% win rate after over 300 games in charge ain't to shoddy.


Title: Re:
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 19:25:51
Morecambe have been royally fucked all season through no fault of the manager, not sure it's clear even more who actually owns the club.

Bentley is popular with majority of fans as shown by them clubbing together and paying his FA fine earlier in the season.

30+% win rate after over 300 games in charge ain't to shoddy.

A 31.3% win rate wouldn't get us out of L2 but should be enough to keep us in the division.

All depends on expectations as supporters I guess.

Used to have a succession of managers / bosses at work who set low standards that they consistently failed to meet.

Hope Lee Power isn't going to fall into that category between now and August.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 19:35:39
But who's to say a 31% win rate at Morecambe isn't actually bloody good given their situation.

Looks like Coventry are going for it - signing our old boy James Collins. Their 7th signing.


Title: Re:
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 19:38:14
A 31.3% win rate wouldn't get us out of L2 but should be enough to keep us in the division.

All depends on expectations as supporters I guess.

Used to have a succession of managers / bosses at work who set low standards that they consistently failed to meet.

Hope Lee Power isn't going to fall into that category between now and August.

Don't you think that maybe the expectation would be that he'd do better with more resources? Do you think Power and his Pals are looking for somebody that will win 31% of games for us?


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 19:44:38
Bentley got Morecambe up and kept them up with next to no budget.

Much has been made that we need a solid manager who knows the division, we look at such a manager and there is uproar...


Title: Re:
Post by: Ells on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 19:46:06
A 31.3% win rate wouldn't get us out of L2 but should be enough to keep us in the division.

All depends on expectations as supporters I guess.

Used to have a succession of managers / bosses at work who set low standards that they consistently failed to meet.

Hope Lee Power isn't going to fall into that category between now and August.

This is the Reg-giest post I've ever seen from someone who isn't actually Reg


Title: Re:
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 19:56:27
win rate per team managed means nothing, the record for Paul Cook who has just got Portsmouth promoted and also got Chesterfield promoted from L2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cook_(footballer)

Southport: 17%
Sligo Rovers: 47%
Accrington: 24%
Chesterfield: 44%
Portsmouth: 48%

Going by Swindon fans, he should never been given another job after sucking as Acrrington and Southport but in 4 years has got 2 different teams promoted from L2, it proves my point that any manager can look bad if the players around them are poor.

any manager needs the chance so whoever is appointed wouldn't bother me


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 20:13:51
Quote from: Audrey's Bellend
But who's to say a 31% win rate at Morecambe isn't actually bloody good given their situation.

Looks like Coventry are going for it - signing our old boy James Collins. Their 7th signing.
what, 7, but all the players and agents are on holiday? shenanigans.


Title: Re:
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 20:28:28
Don't you think that maybe the expectation would be that he'd do better with more resources? Do you think Power and his Pals are looking for somebody that will win 31% of games for us?

Spell at Telford aside, Bentley is essentially a one club man.
It would remain to be seen if he could rise to the challenge in an entirely different environment to Morecambe.
From what Power has said, the aim would appear to be to get out of L2 at the first attempt.
Going from 31% to the well over 40% plus required would be no mean feat.

I don't mind Power taking his time over this appointment as long as panic doesn't supersede the need for some proper due diligence.


Title: Re:
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 20:40:13
This is the Reg-giest post I've ever seen from someone who isn't actually Reg

Blimey. That was not the intention.
Getting up at stupid o'clock to, in the main, follow shit around the country for the last couple of years might have eroded slightly what is normally an optimistic outlook on all things STFC.

Will still be looking forward to the start of the new season regardless of who is the manager.


Title: Re:
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 20:45:28
I don't mind Power taking his time over this appointment as long as panic doesn't supersede the need for some proper due diligence.


Plenty have done it, if you have a bigger budget and the choice of more players means you can have different playing style and better options on the bench. Paul Cook went from 20% to 44% going from Accrington to Chesterfield, both in the same division but a bigger budget.

I don't know much about Bentley to judge him but someone like Sherringham would be a good signing just because of the name, look what PDC did when he came here, if he can do what PDC did but on a more realistic budget then he would also be loved by the fans.

Mark Cooper, had a 29% win rate at Tamworth after 138 games, 128 games at Kettering he had 57% win rate, he doubled his win ratio by moving clubs.


Title: Re:
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 20:47:38
Spell at Telford aside, Bentley is essentially a one club man.
It would remain to be seen if he could rise to the challenge in an entirely different environment to Morecambe.
From what Power has said, the aim would appear to be to get out of L2 at the first attempt.
Going from 31% to the well over 40% plus required would be no mean feat.

I don't mind Power taking his time over this appointment as long as panic doesn't supersede the need for some proper due diligence.


Bentley looks to be a competent Div 4 manager.  Exactly what we need atm.

His sort of man is Kevin Ellison 38 years old and most of his career scuffing round the lower Divs.... he'll score you a few goals still though.

We're going to have to hope, if it is Bentley, that he can find us a squad of Div 4 journeymen pronto


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 20:50:09
Bentley looks to be a competent Div 4 manager.  Exactly what we need atm.

His sort of man is Kevin Ellison 38 years old and most of his career scuffing round the lower Divs.... he'll score you a few goals still though.

We're going to have to hope, if it is Bentley, that he can find us a squad of Div 4 journeymen pronto

If he does come, perhaps he will bring Michael Rose with him 👀


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 20:50:59
We got Danny Williams from a club where he was a long serving employee.

That's my romantic straw clutch if Bentley rolls in to Town...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 21:00:33
If he does come, perhaps he will bring Michael Rose with him 👀

If we're going away from the creche scheme, as Power intimates, then a gaffer like Bentley is going to want the likes of a Rose.

Lower league journeyman types.  Personally I'll settle for a Rose rather than a BOO.


Title: Re:
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 21:08:39
Bentley looks to be a competent Div 4 manager.  Exactly what we need atm.

His sort of man is Kevin Ellison 38 years old and most of his career scuffing round the lower Divs.... he'll score you a few goals still though.

We're going to have to hope, if it is Bentley, that he can find us a squad of Div 4 journeymen pronto

Ha, looked up Kevin Ellison earlier when Bentley was first mooted.

Power has stated that being in current employment won't be an obstacle if it means getting the right person in.
Just thinking that Gareth Ainsworth might be worth a punt. That's without any knowledge of what his level of contentment at Wycombe might be, although may have been attracting interest from higher divisions, but wouldn't need to uproot from up North.

Lack of availability of a good pot of Scouse could count against us as far as Bentley is concerned.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 21:09:41
If we're going away from the creche scheme, as Power intimates, then a gaffer like Bentley is going to want the likes of a Rose.

Lower league journeyman types.  Personally I'll settle for a Rose rather than a BOO.
Fighting for Football League survival would be like a dream for you wouldn't it, all your prophecies of doom and gloom would come to fruition. You've been wanting something like this to happen for years.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 21:17:15
win rate per team managed means nothing, the record for Paul Cook who has just got Portsmouth promoted and also got Chesterfield promoted from L2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cook_(footballer)

Southport: 17%
Sligo Rovers: 47%
Accrington: 24%
Chesterfield: 44%
Portsmouth: 48%

Going by Swindon fans, he should never been given another job after sucking as Acrrington and Southport
Everyone sucks at Southport, it's inherent. And win ratios are bollocks, it's all about PPG


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 21:24:34
Fighting for Football League survival would be like a dream for you wouldn't it, all your prophecies of doom and gloom would come to fruition. You've been wanting something like this to happen for years.
I'm with Reg. I think we are in danger of losing our league status. I'm not sure what makes us confident. In the last 3 seasons we've lost virtually every game to teams lower than us. A decent manager and good player recruitment could put this to bed quickly. If it is Sheringham then I'd boe very worried. If that cunt Sherwood is still around I'd be very worried. I still can't get over the way we went down last season and the way Power let us when it was so preventable. I've heard Power's words but I've not seen anything tangible that would back these words up.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 21:24:40
Everyone sucks at Southport, it's inherent. And win ratios are bollocks, it's all about PPG

Bentley has won 371 from 930 points or 1.2 points per game

Cooper was 1.4 but only a 3rd of the games

PDC was 1.58 from 95 games


Title: Re:
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 21:26:43
Ha, looked up Kevin Ellison earlier when Bentley was first mooted.

Power has stated that being in current employment won't be an obstacle if it means getting the right person in.
Just thinking that Gareth Ainsworth might be worth a punt. That's without any knowledge of what his level of contentment at Wycombe might be, although may have been attracting interest from higher divisions, but wouldn't need to uproot from up North.

Lack of availability of a good pot of Scouse could count against us as far as Bentley is concerned.

I mooted Ainsworth back in April....sadly he's 3 years left on his contract.

Didn't realise Bentley was Scouse. Could be a problem.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: A Gent Orange on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 21:35:31
You know what I'm going to post, I know what I'm going to post: stop quoting win percentages. They are a stupid, almost useless statistic. Draws tell you a lot about a team, and a manager. Win percentage ignores them.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 21:48:11
Bentley has won 371 from 930 points or 1.2 points per game

Cooper was 1.4 but only a 3rd of the games

PDC was 1.58 from 95 games
PPGs are a load of bollocks as well, as it ignores context.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 22:27:49
what, 7, but all the players and agents are on holiday? shenanigans.

[sippo] why the rush? Season is ages away yet. Stop panicking, what is there to panic about? [/sippo]


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 22:32:25
I'm with Reg. I think we are in danger of losing our league status. I'm not sure what makes us confident. In the last 3 seasons we've lost virtually every game to teams lower than us. A decent manager and good player recruitment could put this to bed quickly. If it is Sheringham then I'd boe very worried. If that cunt Sherwood is still around I'd be very worried. I still can't get over the way we went down last season and the way Power let us when it was so preventable. I've heard Power's words but I've not seen anything tangible that would back these words up.


Going out the league is a spectre I don't want to face and is hovering close by.

Power talks the talk but no action.

This drawn out process of getting in a manager is a classic example.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 22:43:27
[sippo] why the rush? Season is ages away yet. Stop panicking, what is there to panic about? [/sippo]
Can we have an official panic deadline so we know when it is actually time to stat panicking? I don't want to go off half-cocked early doors then find myself all panicked out when it really is time


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 22:49:17
Can we have an official panic deadline so we know when it is actually time to stat panicking? I don't want to go off half-cocked early doors then find myself all panicked out when it really is time
I'm going with  Friday the 9th of June , after that its a full on panic fest


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 22:54:45
Can we have an official panic deadline so we know when it is actually time to stat panicking? I don't want to go off half-cocked early doors then find myself all panicked out when it really is time

You'll have to ask Sippo.

I think it would be exaggerated to say, I personally am panicking now - but, we as a club are on a downward slide and I am worried how much further we can / will slide even more so with the complete and utter lack of effort to halt said slide.

The last two times we slide into the bottom division (granted all three season has completely different off field situations) we took action right away to stop thst slide.

We did what we needed to do to stop the slide and start an upward trajectory again.

This time, thus far we have done fuck all. We're at least a week behind already.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 22:55:23
I mean the players must be due back next week for preseason?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 23:09:12
Pre-season is usually around the final week of June, isn't it?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ells on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 23:12:37
I like that it's just assumed because we haven't got a manager yet it automatically means Power's doing fuck all about it. The way some people talk you'd think he was lying on a beach somewhere, occasionally checking his Facebook to see if anyone's responded and then pouring himself another martini made of blended £50 notes and broken dreams.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Saturday, June 3, 2017, 23:25:31
Don't forget the bitter tears of loyal fans


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 03:15:56
I like that it's just assumed because we haven't got a manager yet it automatically means Power's doing fuck all about it. The way some people talk you'd think he was lying on a beach somewhere, occasionally checking his Facebook to see if anyone's responded and then pouring himself another martini made of blended £50 notes and broken dreams.

That would be valid if Power hadn't fucked up nearly every transfer window, leaving it too late every time and then recruiting badly. The last 2 and a half seasons he has overseen a rapid decline on the pitch, spouted weasel words about getting it right next time and then repeating his mistakes.

Chuck in the training ground inaction, the Tactics Tim fiasco and relegation without a whimper and it is easy to see why it appears he really hasn't much of a clue about running a football club successfully.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: phelpsieboy on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 07:35:58
Someone posted on that FB group last night that there was a new local co-owner, before quickly deleting their post. I have heard of something similar do the rounds, not quite a co-owner as such, but a local party offering a decent amount of investment. Will be interesting if there is in fact any credence in the rumour.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 08:55:43
Someone posted on that FB group last night that there was a new local co-owner, before quickly deleting their post. I have heard of something similar do the rounds, not quite a co-owner as such, but a local party offering a decent amount of investment. Will be interesting if there is in fact any credence in the rumour.
There was something on here a week or so ago suggesting that the budget would be higher this year as there was some outside investment. No idea how true it is.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 10:13:20
the thlot Pickens.

can't see Power sharing (see what I did there), perhaps he or the money behind him wants out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 10:21:29
Surely you'd want experience to deal with a decent budget?



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 10:23:59
Fucking gunpowder plot is needed


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 10:24:13
If true, I'd guess it'll be that Phipps chappie.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 10:35:09
interesting..!
All their "contact us" details are Dubai. Yeah that has little bearing on anything, but I'd not heard of them.

Ahhhhhh,

http://travolution.com/articles/12080/dnata-sews-up-imagine-cruising-deal-following-regulatory-approval


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 10:37:52
Where is Dnata travel based?

Edit: just seen batch's comment


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 10:38:49
They were acquiring Imagine Cruising in 2015, presumably are the parent company now

http://travolution.com/articles/12080/dnata-sews-up-imagine-cruising-deal-following-regulatory-approval

OK Majority shareholder

http://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/news-headlines/imagine-cruising-strengthens-its-team-for-continued-growth.html


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wokinghamred on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 10:46:01
Interesting if true !

dnata are a $3.3 billion turnover travel conglomerate based in UAE.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wokinghamred on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 10:47:40
Maybe they want to develop Swindon as THE go-to world-wide vacation location.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 10:49:26
Whatever happened to the investment from a so called Australian construction firm?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 11:04:25
Whatever happened to the investment from a so called Australian construction firm?

Power pocketed it obviously


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 11:45:30
Maybe they want to develop Swindon as THE go-to world-wide vacation location.
Perhaps they will reinstate the canal to get the cruise ships in?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 13:02:10
Dnata are huge.  You see their name plastered around any airport in the Middle East.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 13:08:14
Could explain the dragging of feet re the new manager. IF there is new investment in the offing we don't want a numpty manager spending it.

For the moment I'm consoling myself that that's the reason - another Red Bull moment!

Also, dnata already sponsor Al Ahli FC who have played in the CL (qualifying rounds) - so they have previous.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 14:20:29
In true STFC fashion we can now all dream of becoming the next Man City backed by Arab money. We can all dream and look forward to:

World class manager
World class players
World class stadium

Then comes the news on Monday morning that Power exclusively reveals major investment from a local company who are going to sponsor the away kit for £25K a season:

Falkirks youth team coach appointed manager
Branco signs a new deal
Some new lights for the DRS

That is the STFC rollacoaster in action.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 14:33:40
Sounds the more likely outcome, tbh


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, June 4, 2017, 14:59:12
very very stfc


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:07:38
David Flitcroft new manager according to BBC Witls


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:09:02
Is that Teddy's nom de plume


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:13:00
Well it's, er, an appointment. And he's got experience. And I don't know much about him really.

so, er, yeah. we go again or something


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:13:23
Won promotion from league 2 with bury, sacked last season


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:14:05
38% win ratio.

Could do well if backed i think. Got to give him a chance imo


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:17:32
38% win ratio.

Could do well if backed i think. Got to give him a chance imo
41% at Bury and that includes their horrendous run last season.

Probably just what we need. Lower league experience, knows the sort of players needed, safe ish pair of hands.

Works for me


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:18:17
definitely Tans, could have been a lot lot worse/riskier.

was never expecting or wanting an exciting name. Obviously a Jackett would have been better, but he's not ever going to have been available to us.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:18:46
Probably about the best we could reasonably hope for.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:19:09
Works for me
Have you agreed compensation to release him for the manager's job then? :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:19:35
Relief we didn't appoint a Dave Hockaday type. Good luck to the bloke.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:21:53
People were asking for someone with experience of managing in League 2 and he's got that, plus a promotion out of it.
Not a bad appointment at all.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:22:51
People were asking for someone with experience of managing in League 2 and he's got that, plus a promotion out of it.
Not a bad appointment at all.
Seconded


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:24:50
They're even fairly positive on that FB group, asides from a few exceptions. Must be good.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:27:43
They're even fairly positive on that FB group, asides from a few exceptions. Must be good.

Give it time...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Parkin09 on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:29:59
Couldn't say I'm unhappy with that appointment, funny that he wasn't really mentioned at all beforehand!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:30:39
I thought I'd heard of him then I realised it was Gary Flitcroft. I hope he's great.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:32:30
He was second favourite with the bookies on Friday when Sheringham's odds plummeted so he was on someones radar.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: brocklesby red on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:38:02
Experienced lower league manager with Bury and Barnsley, happy with that. Where's Bilko/ LeGod to tell us he knew this all the time?


Title: Re:
Post by: Benzel on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:39:06
Solid appointment. For a club looking to bounce straight back, appointing somebody with the knowhow seems pretty smart. Let's hope he gets the budget that has been promised.

Sent from my SM-G930F


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:42:26
Solid is a pretty good description


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: random_five on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:43:21
Solid appointment. For a club looking to bounce straight back, appointing somebody with the knowhow seems pretty smart. Let's hope he gets the budget that has been promised.



Agreed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:45:15
Not bad.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:46:12
It better be confirmed now, I've gone and changed my avatar to a cliquey in joke and everything.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:50:25
It better be confirmed now, I've gone and changed my avatar to a cliquey in joke and everything.

You've been waiting all of last week to do that, haven't you?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:50:57
You've been waiting all week to do that, haven't you?

Yeah, I was pretty concerned about how I was going to fit "Hasselbaink" into that box at one point but Power has pulled through for me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:51:19
Yeah, I was pretty concerned about how I was going to fit "Hasselbaink" into that box at one point but Power has pulled through for me.
:D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: adje on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:52:27
Reasonably happy with this


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:56:12
Does anyone know who his number 2 was at Bury out of interest?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sippo on Monday, June 5, 2017, 10:59:22
Fucking shit.

I am not going again in protest.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:02:42
I just hope that Flitcroft is given a budget and left to get in with it, without interference from Power.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: dogs on Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:02:50
Solid appointment.

Can't see us doing much better in the current climate. Hopefully he'll be left alone on the playing side of things and backed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: corner on Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:04:55
Milky Mellon and Martin Scot were his assistants at barnsley, Ben futcher at Bury.... he assisted shirtlifter at Bury to


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:05:54
Solid appointment.

Can't see us doing much better in the current climate. Hopefully he'll be left alone on the playing side of things and backed.
Happy with that - Now lets start to rebuild the squad !!!.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:09:45
Milky Mellon and Martin Scot were his assistants at barnsley, Ben futcher at Bury.... he assisted shirtlifter at Bury to

Milky Mellon sounds like a bit titted porn star?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:16:39
We won't be a soft touch anymore, sure he will get them fired up and fitter!  Did well at Oldham in the cups a few years ago!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:29:40
We won't be a soft touch anymore, sure he will get them fired up and fitter!  Did well at Oldham in the sups a few years ago!

Hopefully this will be the case. The players will be fitter, work harder and not run away from the ball when we have throw ins.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:30:28
Scarf over head please, chop chop.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:40:57
Pleased if true.

1st bit of optimism for me since the 3-0 win over Charlton and TS appointment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:43:07
Yay


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, June 5, 2017, 11:45:05
Happy enough with that, now players need to be signed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:02:03
Like the appointment very much, love this article...

http://www.theleaguepaper.com/featured/7867/good-bad-ugly-david-flitcroft-looks-back-on-career-moments-at-rochdale-barnsley-and-bury/


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:03:38
Like the appointment very much, love this article...

http://www.theleaguepaper.com/featured/7867/good-bad-ugly-david-flitcroft-looks-back-on-career-moments-at-rochdale-barnsley-and-bury/
Better watch out when he blows the whistle! If the players did that on the pitch the fans might have a bit more respect!  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:21:16
this stands out for me.

I actually went for the England Under-21 job. There were 165 applicants and I made it to the last four, which I was very proud of.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:33:49
Excellent link, OST.  Loved Flitcroft's lecture to George Graham on discipline.  Will like it even more when I see the scarf over the head shot.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:39:33
Apparently he's turned down a number of approaches from other clubs.

Cue the moaning about lack of signings now the manager is sorted.

I'll start. Where's the fucking players, Power.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:44:16
Apparently he's turned down a number of approaches from other clubs.

They always have. I think its the agent equivalent of 'I've got someone looking at this car later on' :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:45:52
Need the scarf up and then heads down and get on with it!

Good luck to the fella!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:46:24
Wonder where Luke will turn up next. Hope he gets a gig.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:47:15
Opinion on him seems very polarised from Bury and Barnsley fans. Either very good or very bad, with little in between.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:49:07
At least it's polarised.  More than could be said for opinion on LW.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:50:09
Excellent link, OST.  Loved Flitcroft's lecture to George Graham on discipline.  Will like it even more when I see the scarf over the head shot.

As we know with STFC, always best to wait for that and then wait and see a bit longer. 

As said last week when Flitcroft was first mentioned....

"Flitcroft would be an OK appointment... unspectacular but knows the trade. Bit north western though throughout his career, so coming here might be a culture shock."

The culture thing might seem a bit spurious, but in the north west there are an awful lot of clubs within a short distance of each other, which basically means lots of players in the easily available pool.

Players readily rotate between Blackburn, Bolton, Bury, Oldham, Rochdale etc having dropped down from the Scouse and Manc clubs academy set ups.

Recruitment for us tends to be more London based, not ideal because of travelling and you can get a different type.

Flitcroft would suggest that Power will take more of a back seat.... so it will be interesting to see the shape his squad building takes.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:51:15
At least it's polarised.  More than could be said for opinion on LW.

Bit harsh?

At least we were mostly unified on LW ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:52:41
Opinion on him seems very polarised from Bury and Barnsley fans. Either very good or very bad, with little in between.

To be expected I suppose. One promotion, one survival, two looking dodgy seasons. To be honest its a bit Danny Wilson. If you appraise him on year 1, great, year 2 shit.

Any indication on his actual style, passion within the team, fitness of players, etc?

I'm hoping "big budget for league" isn't the normal Power BS (aren't we all) and the relative advantage of that will see him come good.

But like I said on FB, find me a manager that hasn't been sacked that we could get.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 12:57:21
He's quite the motivator apparently.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 5, 2017, 13:00:54
He's quite the motivator apparently.

Like him already then :)

(http://www.beardedtheory.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/mr-m.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: hefty toe on Monday, June 5, 2017, 13:01:27
I'm quite pleased with the Flitcroft appointment, but maybe that's because it came after the Sheringham rumour.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, June 5, 2017, 13:12:15
Solid enough appointment has a bit of managerial experience, at least it looks like he can appoint his own No 2, fitness coach and physio.

Interesting to see the type of style he believes you need to play for this level, and having managed a team that has played and managed in L1 previously, he may know a few of our players that have been offered new deals so can quickly decided whether to pull contract offers or not.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, June 5, 2017, 13:12:51

Any indication on his actual style, passion within the team, fitness of players, etc?


He's a northerner, so you can be sure there will be a hard line approach.  None of that "Southern Softy" approach to fitness and training that Luke loved so much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpuJBtcMMp8


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, June 5, 2017, 13:13:47
Was he in charge when we played Bury at our gaff last season? They were big & ugly. Bit of a shift from the tappy sideways stuff.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 5, 2017, 13:14:42
I'm assuming we do get the 'scarf above the head' shot and this appointment actually happens (the big news on the OS is still 'Town Become Switch on to Swindon Ambassadors').

With that caveat in mind, I'm really pleased that Power has been true to his word and appointed a proper manager as opposed to a glorified cone gatherer like Drummy. Flitctoft* should get 100% control over first team affairs and we will go back to a much more traditional management structure. It was pretty obvious that after some initial success, the 'model' (how I detest that term in this context) sucked balls and if it was not majorly overhauled/changed we were going to be in serious trouble.

Thankfully Power appears to have realised this and if he is also true to his word with regard to budgets maybe, just maybe we could be in for a reasonably enjoyable season.

*Waits for ..."BBC Wilts understands David Flitcroft will NOT be the next Swindon manager"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, June 5, 2017, 13:51:15
Was he in charge when we played Bury at our gaff last season? They were big & ugly. Bit of a shift from the tappy sideways stuff.
No, that was in February,  he was sacked by Bury in November 2016.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Trashbat? on Monday, June 5, 2017, 13:58:02
No, that was in February,  he was sacked by Bury in November 2016.

No it was September '16 we played them at the CG.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 14:01:16
Personally I'm wiling to forego any playing style preferences this season even if it means hoofball. Just get the fucking job done. We can worry about pretty football later.

Not that I'm suggesting he is a hoofball merchant (I don't know either way), more that I'm just not fussed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 5, 2017, 14:03:44
Wasn't it one of their fuckers who crocked Sendles White?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Monday, June 5, 2017, 14:04:52
Wasn't it one of their fuckers who crocked Sendles White?

Tom Pope. Who has gone back to Port Vale


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, June 5, 2017, 14:18:19
Personally I'm wiling to forego any playing style preferences this season even if it means hoofball. Just get the fucking job done. We can worry about pretty football later.



Agreed, Sturrock's game wasn't pretty but it got us out of League 2 at the first attempt.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 5, 2017, 14:32:30
Solid enough appointment has a bit of managerial experience, at least it looks like he can appoint his own No 2, fitness coach and physio.

Interesting to see the type of style he believes you need to play for this level, and having managed a team that has played and managed in L1 previously, he may know a few of our players that have been offered new deals so can quickly decided whether to pull contract offers or not.

His Bury outfit were pretty much what you'd expect from a lower Div norvern side... big and ugly with little football played.

Judging by that Town fans are going to have to accept, that this will represent a sea change... however needs must, a return to basics is needed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, June 5, 2017, 14:34:54
His Bury outfit were pretty much what you'd expect from a lower Div norvern side... big and ugly with little football played.

Judging by that Town fans are going to have to accept, that this will represent a sea change... however needs must, a return to basics is needed.

Seems to like quick(ish) wingers also


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 5, 2017, 14:37:24
His Bury outfit were pretty much what you'd expect from a lower Div norvern side... big and ugly with little football played.

Judging by that Town fans are going to have to accept, that this will represent a sea change... however needs must, a return to basics is needed.

Yeah 'cos our fans just loved the technical way we have been playing for the last two years?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, June 5, 2017, 14:38:46
I think after the last couple of seasons we must be amongst the easiest set of fans to convince that a more direct approach is the way to go. A tippy tappy style is even less likely to succeed in League 2. We'd have had the crap kicked out of us on a weekly basis.

I'm indifferent at present. Leaning towards being pleased. Had some good times as manager and some very poor ones. At the same time much prefer this appointment to Sheringham or a Hockaday type.

Let's see where we are when the squad has taken some sort of shape.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, June 5, 2017, 14:43:23
Remember that Bury away game actually, the season after they came up... They tore us a new arsehole at their place.

On the flipside.. Anton Rodgers scored against them that day...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 5, 2017, 14:48:50
Yeah 'cos our fans just loved the technical way we have been playing for the last two years?

As I say needs must. We're in Div 4 so need to play Div 4 football.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:06:42
As I say needs must. We're in Div 4 so need to play Div 4 football.
Beats the hell out of Conference football ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:09:55
More importantly does anyone know his favourite cheese yet?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: shaker90 on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:13:21
Hello guys I'm a Bury fan just coming to give my opinion on Flitcroft (DF) and his football management.

I'll start off with his interviews though, at first they will start off as something different and very professional but the amount of buzz words he uses ('synergy' and 'DNA') being particular favourites of his during his time with us will gradually annoy you but on the other hand his enthusiasm for the job will never change and he will remain upbeat.

You may have a budget but if his time with us is anything to go by he will smash this out of the park very quickly if he gets half a chance, he brought in some fantastic players during his time with us including the likes of James Vaughan, Zeli Ismael and (I know this might not be a popular one here) Leon Clarke, but his training regime is supposedly very tough and full on, and caused us many many injuries over the last few seasons.

DF is a hoarder, he signs so many players and has so many coaching staff in his team I think that they all get very confused with what their role actually is with the club, although he will attempt to bring in the very best available to him.

Under DF we endured two very very long periods without wins just this last season under him we lost 10 consecutive league games which ended in his eventual dismissal as manager, this run meant we were very lucky to stay up in the end, both seasons poor form came around 10 games into the season after starting well.

DF will probably try to bring in someone that knows the club very well to be his assistant as he likes to try and get all supporters on side at the moment of joining, although as it goes I wouldn't be surprised if he brought in Ben Futcher who was assistant with us (you might have to make the dugout roof a bit higher), Futcher was supposedly the bully boy for DF and was made to single people out that DF didn't like.

If you have anyone that is very well liked by fans and is coming to the end of their career in one or two seasons at the club he will get rid of them as he often feels very threatened by people more popular than him.

Signings will solely be done on the basis of if DF has worked with them before I would not be surprised to see you pick up someone like Ben Williams, Anthony Kay, Kelvin Etuhu or Danny Rose, the clubs you will sign players from will be Barnsley, Rochdale (because of his best mate Keith Hill, this relationship was sickening considering we are supposedly rival clubs), and Bury.

DF needs to feel loved if he doesn't he will claim your fans to be deserters as he did during his 10 game losing streak this season.

All in all I wish you the very best of luck...you might need it although you will probably finish top half this season then struggle the season after.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:20:24
 Shaker, you obviously don't have too high an opinion of DF, but it should be noted that he's coming into a club that has just witnessed managerial incompetence on a historic level.

If he can get in some players who can do the football basics, like run around a bit, tackle and compete, it'll be like a breath of fresh air.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:22:31
Thanks for the info Shaker. Never easy to tell how a manager will do but after the last shambles he'll probably be welcomed as a hero... until he loses one game.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:23:48
Confirmed.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2017/june/breaking-david-flitcroft-named-new-town-manager/


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:26:03
Good. Now let the rebuilding commence.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:26:43
If you have anyone that is very well liked by fans

He's pretty safe on that front


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:36:52
Shaker, you obviously don't have too high an opinion of DF, but it should be noted that he's coming into a club that has just witnessed managerial incompetence on a historic level.

If he can get in some players who can do the football basics, like run around a bit, tackle and compete, it'll be like a breath of fresh air.

Pass, tackle, defend, press and actually compete.

Stay in the league.

My expectation after the dogshit we have had to endure.

Let's see what players he gets in and good luck to him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: shaker90 on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:43:00
Shaker, you obviously don't have too high an opinion of DF, but it should be noted that he's coming into a club that has just witnessed managerial incompetence on a historic level.

If he can get in some players who can do the football basics, like run around a bit, tackle and compete, it'll be like a breath of fresh air.

I don't know what gives you that impression  :-[

I think he will be glad he wont be facing Bury next season though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:49:29
From Shaker's post, I doubt if Power will allow player accumulation or let him smash the budget (which, I noticed, has gone from 'the highest in the league' to 'competitive').

As for injuries, well we've had 2 seasons of that already. He may find it more difficult to recruit journeymen northern players down to SN1. I, personally, don't give a shit if he is a bit of a bully - we've seen the mollycoddling of LW didn't work.

Good job BOO's gone, I reckon.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:50:04
thanks shaker90

So a cross between Wilson, PDC and McMahon then. if we get the good bits of those the first season it'll be great, I don't want to think about the perfect storm of the other side of that coin!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:54:13
From Shaker's post, I doubt if Power will allow player accumulation or let him smash the budget (which, I noticed, has gone from 'the highest in the league' to 'competitive').

As for injuries, well we've had 2 seasons of that already. He may find it more difficult to recruit journeymen northern players down to SN1. I, personally, don't give a shit if he is a bit of a bully - we've seen the mollycoddling of LW didn't work.

Good job BOO's gone, I reckon.
In Powers defence, broadcasting on the official site that we have the highest budget in the league wouldn't help any transfer dealings at all.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:56:23
"DF will probably try to bring in someone that knows the club very well to be his assistant as he likes to try and get all supporters on side at the moment of joining," Alan Mac only possible one who fits bill? Can't really see it as sure Alan Mac happier with the kids.


"If you have anyone that is very well liked by fans and is coming to the end of their career in one or two seasons at the club he will get rid of them as he often feels very threatened by people more popular than him."
99% certain he was off anyway but definitely Bye Bye Nathan. No one else even vaguely fits the bill.

Would hope appointment is good news for Tom Smith as surely he is just the sort of player he likes.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: shaker90 on Monday, June 5, 2017, 15:58:02
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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 5, 2017, 16:00:51
On a different tack, strange that all the players out of contract have been linked with moves away apart from Obika.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, June 5, 2017, 16:03:54
On a different tack, strange that all the players out of contract have been linked with moves away apart from Obika.

They've all told the club they are leaving apparently.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 5, 2017, 16:05:20
Pass, tackle, defend, press and actually compete.

Stay in the league.

My expectation after the dogshit we have had to endure.

Let's see what players he gets in and good luck to him.

That he has to recruit more or less an entire squad, may work to his advantage.  If his methods are a bit old skool then, there won't be any left to grumble.

Sturrock liked to get in players he'd worked with, so if Flitcroft wants a team of journeymen norvern cloggers then fine.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Monday, June 5, 2017, 16:12:12
They've all told the club they are leaving apparently.


Good, if they dont want to help right the wrongs of last season then they can all piss off


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: joteddyred on Monday, June 5, 2017, 16:37:05
Can't be any worse than last season surely? For that reason I'm positive about the appointment.  Yes, me, positive  :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 5, 2017, 16:55:47
Can't be any worse than last season surely? For that reason I'm positive about the appointment.  Yes, me, positive  :)

Last season Bury lost 13 in a row, Flitcroft was certainly there for most if not all of them. However it was in Div 3, maybe he's better suited to Div 4.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 17:34:38
There's an interview here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p055122b


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Professor on Monday, June 5, 2017, 18:00:27
I like the way he wants to put some pride back into the team and his emphasis on working together. Right signals for me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 18:03:28
Echos of PDC's comments when he first joined.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 5, 2017, 18:04:53
Good interview, said all the right things. Reading between the lines of what he said at the end about appointing a no.2, I wouldn't be surprised to see fellow Mancunian Alan Mac get the gig.  :hmmm:

If I'm wrong just call me Dr Bilko  ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, June 5, 2017, 18:08:01
Him and Alan Mac are good mates I believe.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, June 5, 2017, 18:14:26
Comes across as a no nonsense type. Feel encouraged.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 5, 2017, 18:20:10
Comes across as a no nonsense type. Feel encouraged.

Paul Hart was a no nonsense type... as Oxford fans in Witney would testify.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 5, 2017, 18:36:01
Ladbroke think we've got it right

http://news.ladbrokes.com/football/league-two/heres-why-swindon-have-got-it-right-with-flitcroft-appointment.html


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Monday, June 5, 2017, 19:01:27
Well that could have gone a lot worse!  We have a proper manager for the first time in a number of years who won't have his hands tied by those above.  I got so bored of LW's style of football, no cutting edge to it, will be interesting to see what kind of players we get in and it's nice to feel excited about pre season again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: MichaelPook on Monday, June 5, 2017, 19:44:59
The number 2 will almost certainly be Ben Futcher


Good interview, said all the right things. Reading between the lines of what he said at the end about appointing a no.2, I wouldn't be surprised to see fellow Mancunian Alan Mac get the gig.  :hmmm:

If I'm wrong just call me Dr Bilko  ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, June 5, 2017, 20:15:30
Not the most exciting of appointments but given some of the other names I'll take it. The good news is that he appears to have no connections to Power or Sherwood. Hopefully, he'll be able to crack on now.
When Bury beat us at Swindon with him in charge, they kicked a few early on, were organised and waited for us to fuck up - a good plan really.
If he can get us fit, organised and giving a fuck that will be a vast improvement. Whether he can crack movement at our throw ins remains to be seen. 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, June 5, 2017, 20:18:02

Neutral on this appointment.
Will wait to see what the recruitment is like.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 5, 2017, 20:38:21
Neutral on this appointment.
Will wait to see what the recruitment is like.

The close season must be difficult for you WB, without all those lovely away days, and pre match visits to Wetherspoon's every fortnight or so.

Fixtures are out soon....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: cdakev on Monday, June 5, 2017, 20:47:36
Not sure what to make of this. Came as a bit of a surprise to me.

If he can make us fitter, stronger and play a more aggressive game then that's what we will need in this division.

Good luck to the bloke and let's hope it works and we can get promotion. COYR


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 20:51:30
One thing that I gleaned from that interview was that he's been speaking to Power for 2 weeks. Of all the names that have bandied about, his was not one of them. Power does know how to keep his cards close to his chest. Rightly so, I think.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, June 5, 2017, 21:00:26
Hmm, by all accounts this was dead in the water at the back end of last week and Sherwood remained very much on the scene, hence the offer to his old pal Teddy.

I can only conclude that Sherwood's involvement has ceased completely, with this the key term Flitcroft refers to in his interview with Hodgetts. Why such a u turn? I really don't know, and find it unlikely that this will come to light.

I can only echo the majority of previous comments; this is a refreshing appointment and some lower league experience is much welcome; do you think he has what it takes to ensure we 'retain FL status', Reg?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, June 5, 2017, 21:03:15
Speculation on my part but wouldn't be surprised if Power tries to sell up soon.

He's effectively abandoned his 'model' by giving the job to Flitcroft who's already said the major sticking point for him was being able to bring in his own players.

I doubt that means signing a load of kids that hopefully turn out good and make Power a profit. His focus will be on building a winning team probably including players he's worked with previously.

If that's the case why would Lee stick around when he's openly said a number of times he's here to make money?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 5, 2017, 21:11:27
Hmm, by all accounts this was dead in the water at the back end of last week and Sherwood remained very much on the scene, hence the offer to his old pal Teddy.

I can only conclude that Sherwood's involvement has ceased completely, with this the key term Flitcroft refers to in his interview with Hodgetts. Why such a u turn? I really don't know, and find it unlikely that this will come to light.

I can only echo the majority of previous comments; this is a refreshing appointment and some lower league experience is much welcome; do you think he has what it takes to ensure we 'retain FL status', Reg?

Well he's the sort of thing we need so that's a positive step. Now everything hinges on recruitment.  Brian Talbot was an experienced campaigner with a decent lower league manager CV, but it didn't stop him taking Oxford to the Conference, even the legendary Bald Eagle couldn't save them, like Hart to Talbot's Wilson.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 21:12:54
Hmm, by all accounts this was dead in the water at the back end of last week and Sherwood remained very much on the scene, hence the offer to his old pal Teddy.


Oh, do fuck off.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, June 5, 2017, 21:27:47
No one can tell but I'm definitely not disappointed. Not sure about the shaker fan essay, that's an awful lot of predictions and probabilities when no two jobs are the same.

Bury have very much been a league 2 club for the last 20 years and he got them promoted. I'm sure we will be swapping places again soon based on their attendances and unsustainable salaries.

The main thing is we have a manager in place, plenty of time left to recruit and we aren't tied down to shit players on long contracts which can often happen for relegated clubs, we can go and build a new team to get us back up at the first opportunity.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 5, 2017, 21:44:56
Speculation on my part but wouldn't be surprised if Power tries to sell up soon.

He's effectively abandoned his 'model' by giving the job to Flitcroft who's already said the major sticking point for him was being able to bring in his own players.

I doubt that means signing a load of kids that hopefully turn out good and make Power a profit. His focus will be on building a winning team probably including players he's worked with previously.

If that's the case why would Lee stick around when he's openly said a number of times he's here to make money?

There's nowt wrong with signing kids. The problem was that we were signing ONLY kids.

I can easily see the manager being given control over transfers with a caveat that x amount need to be youngsters. I can also easily see the manager having no problem with this provided they still get to shape the squad to their liking. There's still room for Power's model to some degree. It might even prove more lucrative for him to mix it up a bit.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, June 5, 2017, 22:02:16
Iv seen people put that a league 2 type team needs to be put together, big and strong and physical. Is this just a stereotypical view of the lower league. Did Pompey etc play that way to get out? If the players are good enough I refuse to believe the only option is to ditch playing good football


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, June 5, 2017, 22:20:48
I can't wait for the hysteria when our first signing is under the age of 25, and everyone assumes Power is still in control of transfers.  :)


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 5, 2017, 22:45:47
Do Leicester have an academy, is that going to be this year's big link?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 03:23:09
Iv seen people put that a league 2 type team needs to be put together, big and strong and physical. Is this just a stereotypical view of the lower league. Did Pompey etc play that way to get out? If the players are good enough I refuse to believe the only option is to ditch playing good football
We haven't played 'good football' for over 2 seasons so there's nothing to ditch. As the man says, it's all about winning football.


Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 08:25:44
Quote
Iv seen people put that a league 2 type team needs to be put together, big and strong and physical. Is this just a stereotypical view of the lower league. Did Pompey etc play that way to get out? If the players are good enough I refuse to believe the only option is to ditch playing good football
it's a fair question

Last season for me it was too easy for the opposition to get the ball. Partly that was due to style, partly personal.

My opinion is we do need a more physical presence as we are unlikely to get the caddis/Ritchie for quality to pass our way out the league.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 08:53:59
We haven't played 'good football' for over 2 seasons so there's nothing to ditch. As the man says, it's all about winning football.
No, but you know what he meant. There's a danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 08:54:55
The close season must be difficult for you WB, without all those lovely away days, and pre match visits to Wetherspoon'svery fortnight or so.

Fixtures are out soon....

Hopefully a Flitcroft pre season won't be along similar lines.
It would make sense for the squad, once assembled, to go away for some team bonding somewhere. Wasn't Cooper the last one to make use of an army camp for a week or so?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: shaker90 on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 09:13:31
Bury have very much been a league 2 club for the last 20 years and he got them promoted. I'm sure we will be swapping places again soon based on their attendances and unsustainable salaries.

You do realise that Flitcroft was the person to offer those terms as he had full control over his budget.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 09:19:12
You do realise that Flitcroft was the person to offer those terms as he had full control over his budget.
and I think you've got to realise that warts and all, we'll take it. Compared to what we've had the last 2 seasons, it actually sounds good.
On a different point, I'd take a Swindon team kicking their way out of this division. In fact, I'd welcome it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 09:21:53
Why has he not signed any players yet?! FFS. Useless shit.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 09:23:10
Interesting to hear he wanted full and frank assurances regarding things before he took the job


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 09:29:57
You do realise that Flitcroft was the person to offer those terms as he had full control over his budget.

Yea but he didn't decide on that budget, he was only spending what he had been given


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 10:27:33
You do realise that Flitcroft was the person to offer those terms as he had full control over his budget.

I very much doubt Flitcroft sat down with the player and negioated the financial terms. If he did then a limit should be enforced before you have to start shaking buckets around the grounds.

and I think you've got to realise that warts and all, we'll take it. Compared to what we've had the last 2 seasons, it actually sounds good.

Each to their own but I wouldn't want to be signing players like Jermaine Penant and spend ridiculously above our means. Those warts you refer to could end up being administration? I really like the principle of the power model but it has to be flexible. I like the idea of investing in youth and trying to find the next star. Obviously we need the balance of experience which along with management structure what we were lacking.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 10:33:50
There is no way that Power is going to let him have carte blanche on the financial aspects of recruiting, I think he has shown that this just will not happen.  I fully expect Flitcroft to highlight the players that he wants and begin the negotiations, but Power will have final say on whether the financial make up of the offer fits in with the clubs financial model and budget. 

As much as you can throw at Power recently, one thing he isn't is a mug financially.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 10:40:49
I very much doubt Flitcroft sat down with the player and negioated the financial terms. If he did then a limit should be enforced before you have to start shaking buckets around the grounds.

Each to their own but I wouldn't want to be signing players like Jermaine Penant and spend ridiculously above our means. Those warts you refer to could end up being administration? I really like the principle of the power model but it has to be flexible. I like the idea of investing in youth and trying to find the next star. Obviously we need the balance of experience which along with management structure what we were lacking.

The problem with the model was unearthing a young player for sale was the be all and end all to the detriment of what happened week in week out on the pitch. It appears Power realises it cannot continue or we'd end up out of the league.

Actually looking forward to 'stuff' happening now.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 10:42:54
The problem with the model was unearthing a young player for sale was the be all and end all to the detriment of what happened week in week out on the pitch. It appears Power realises it cannot continue or we'd end up out of the league.

Actually looking forward to 'stuff' happening now.


Indeed, that's why I said agree with the principle but needs to be flexible.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 10:44:25
Interesting to hear he wanted full and frank assurances regarding things before he took the job

Yeah fair play to the bloke. Already showing he won't be a soft touch.

Also, with regards to Bury's financial situation I can't really believe Flitcroft did the financial side of things, how many managers actually do?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 10:48:49
Indeed. shaker90 seems to know quite a lot about how his club is run, likely speculative one suspects. Any Bury fan could come on here, happy clapper or member of their own special Facebook group.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 11:13:24
Bury's Chang?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 11:39:54
If it was Bury's Chang he would have been on here weeks ago surely?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 11:54:14
If he was Bury's Chang, he'd have been on the Portsmouth forums saying DF was joining them as as goalkeeping coach.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 11:55:13
The problem with the model was unearthing a young player for sale was the be all and end all to the detriment of what happened week in week out on the pitch. It appears Power realises it cannot continue or we'd end up out of the league.

Actually looking forward to 'stuff' happening now.


I think caution would be sensible as regards "stuff".  Flitcroft may be talking a good game, but we've had long enough to get to know Power, and it will be very much a case of the proof of the pudding....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 12:06:27
Indeed. shaker90 seems to know quite a lot about how his club is run, likely speculative one suspects. Any Bury fan could come on here, happy clapper or member of their own special Facebook group.

More likely he was involved with Forever Bury and understandably has a chip on his or her shoulder as a result. It was a complete stitch up after all.

Did the Chairman/Board give in to the demands of the manager (think Wray and Di Canio) or did the Chairman/Board write a blank cheque and let the manager spend it how they liked (think Wray and Di Canio), or was it a mixture? When it all goes wrong all those involved are going to leave a bitter taste in the mouths of fans, but ultimately the Chairman and Board should take the blame.

I think it's safe to say even the Power out doom merchants will be gobsmacked if he [Lee Power] was to enable either scenario to occur; I fully expect Flitcroft has agreed the budget and what he is and isn't able to do, especially given the fact he's said it's taken a couple of weeks to reach that point.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 12:29:03
I don't think there is a huge difference in quality between League 1 & League 2, which is why promoted teams are often challenging in League 1 the season after.

I do expect us to go back to a similar style of play as under PDC given DF's reputation. Big blokes at the back, flood the wings, get the ball into the box early. I think it's a style that's effective at both levels, just look at Burton, Bradford & Fleetwood to name a few.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 12:30:36
I am a little underwhelmed but feeling quietly optimistic.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 12:45:51
Speculation on my part but wouldn't be surprised if Power tries to sell up soon.

He's effectively abandoned his 'model' by giving the job to Flitcroft who's already said the major sticking point for him was being able to bring in his own players.

I doubt that means signing a load of kids that hopefully turn out good and make Power a profit. His focus will be on building a winning team probably including players he's worked with previously.

If that's the case why would Lee stick around when he's openly said a number of times he's here to make money?

He can still make money, there is no harm in bringing in players that get developed and improved and then at a later date sold on for a profit, hopefully though it wont be the whole team being sold on for a profit and we can actually build a team that just needs improving the following season instead of rebuilding.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 13:25:45
No it was September '16 we played them at the CG.
Sorry - you are correct,  February was the away game.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 13:37:39
We have a new manager who tweets!!  And to think that I was about to delete my Twitter account as well.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 13:55:23
He's on twitter?

What could possibly go wrong? Does Jordan Cook know yet?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 13:57:46
Would be very surprised if it was real.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 13:58:17
I think caution would be sensible as regards "stuff".  Flitcroft may be talking a good game, but we've had long enough to get to know Power, and it will be very much a case of the proof of the pudding....
TBH, Reg, 'stuff' for me amounts to not much more than looking forward to going to games again instead of dreading it - or not at all - and anticipating proper players instead of another group of Nancy boys.

Nice to hear Flitcroft mention that L2 is for men's football, not boys.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 14:00:04
We have a new manager who tweets!!  And to think that I was about to delete my Twitter account as well.
Oh God, no. Does he have tiny little hands?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 14:00:51
Would be very surprised if it was real.

Looks real enough to me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 14:54:11
Quote from: pauld
Quote
We have a new manager who tweets!!  And to think that I was about to delete my Twitter account as well.
Oh God, no. Does he have tiny little hands?

Swinvfefe


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 15:03:56
TBH, Reg, 'stuff' for me amounts to not much more than looking forward to going to games again instead of dreading it - or not at all - and anticipating proper players instead of another group of Nancy boys.

Nice to hear Flitcroft mention that L2 is for men's football, not boys.

Nancy boys... another job lot of Froggy's countrymen... shudder.

Trouble is proper players cost; had we signed a James Vaughan/ Leon Clarke type, the sort that Flitcroft favours, we may well have stayed in Div 3, and Power wouldn't have lost himseus a £mill.

I think we'll need to see some pretty solid evidence of Power's change of attitude before we can anticipate looking forward to going to games.

Look at Oxford...they had Wilder who has shown himself to be a top lower league operator, but couldn't get out of Div 4, as Lenagan the owner kept a tight hold on purse strings. It was only when a new more generous owner came in that they went up, by which time Wilder had been hounded out by their fans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 15:23:03
Nancy boys... another job lot of Froggy's countrymen... shudder.

Trouble is proper players cost; had we signed a James Vaughan/ Leon Clarke type, the sort that Flitcroft favours, we may well have stayed in Div 3, and Power wouldn't have lost himseus a £mill.

I think we'll need to see some pretty solid evidence of Power's change of attitude before we can anticipate looking forward to going to games.

Look at Oxford...they had Wilder who has shown himself to be a top lower league operator, but couldn't get out of Div 4, as Lenagan the owner kept a tight hold on purse strings. It was only when a new more generous owner came in that they went up, by which time Wilder had been hounded out by their fans.

These proper players contributed to a £4m budget, a £2.5m+ loss and a 19th place finish 1 point above relegation. I would rather of got relegated and start a squad again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: milo t on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 15:40:21
Oh God, no. Does he have tiny little hands?

Swinvfefe

Well played sir


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 15:47:21
These proper players contributed to a £4m budget, a £2.5m+ loss and a 19th place finish 1 point above relegation. I would rather of got relegated and start a squad again.


Bury obviously are spending money they don't have.

Everything tells us that Power is still going to keep a tight rein on the spending, not necessarily a bad thing, and the likes of Accrington have shown prudent managers can get you into the Div 4 PO's on a modest budget.

Did Flitcroft get Bury up on the back of those sort of figures for their Div 4 campaign?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 16:57:22
Bury obviously are spending money they don't have.

Everything tells us that Power is still going to keep a tight rein on the spending, not necessarily a bad thing, and the likes of Accrington have shown prudent managers can get you into the Div 4 PO's on a modest budget.

Did Flitcroft get Bury up on the back of those sort of figures for their Div 4 campaign?

I believe the loss was even more. It will be chalk and cheese between the two clubs though and flitcroft will have no choice to recruit differently. They have a very old squad and have just added 34 yr old beckford and another 2 aged 31. 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 17:03:41
I believe the loss was even more. It will be chalk and cheese between the two clubs though and flitcroft will have no choice to recruit differently. They have a very old squad and have just added 34 yr old beckford and another 2 aged 31. 

Or Power has found a few bob down the back of the sofa.  Anyway it will be interesting to try and decipher the way ahead, as the new signings come on stream.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 17:07:51
Isn't Bury's money from a loan secured against their stadium??? Or am I mistaken?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 17:12:06
Bury had a wage spend not too far off what ours must be, based on what you can decipher from accounts.  Their problem is the revenue was about half.  Lots of loans although some have been converted to equity, banking on a stadium development, and the loaners are getting a healthy return in the meantime.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 18:01:20
Bury had a wage spend not too far off what ours must be, based on what you can decipher from accounts.  Their problem is the revenue was about half.  Lots of loans although some have been converted to equity, banking on a stadium development, and the loaners are getting a healthy return in the meantime.

Bury wagebill: £4.2m 2016, £3.2m 2015. Any idea on what ours was? With the comparison of squads I would have thought we were well below but if it was the same it does throw up questions on the players we signed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 18:48:19
Power always reckoned we had a top 10 budget - whether this was before or after topping up with the Ajose money is anyone's guess.

Either way, the squad assembled last season never looked anywhere near a top 10 budget spend. The supposed spend on Vigs and Norris has been open to discussion but surely a L1 club wouldn't spend such a large chunk of their budget on a keeper and no way on God's earth could anyone cough £150,000 for Norris - £25,000 seems to be the accepted fee.

But the very fact Flitcroft is here points to a very decent budget for this level. Hope he spends it wisely.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 19:27:32
Bury wagebill: £4.2m 2016, £3.2m 2015. Any idea on what ours was? With the comparison of squads I would have thought we were well below but if it was the same it does throw up questions on the players we signed.

Well Bury's 2016 budget sounds similar to a PdC bonanza, and we know Power was commited to bringing that down to more manageable levels. 

I guess the Power strategy is that you can have 5 or 6 on decent money, but then you make up the rest with loans and kids/non leaguers, which are relatively cheap. It may well be that given the budget Flitcroft will be forced into something similar to build a squad of 22.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: random_five on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 20:39:47
Looks real enough to me.

Steele-Davis has just suggested otherwise.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 21:12:17
Steele-Davis has just suggested otherwise.

I saw that.

It'd be an odd thing if it isn't real though. It's not as though it's an amusing parody or anything. It just seems to be somebody that is, or is pretending to be, a lower league manager and has been doing so for about a year.

I still think it is real, it'd be very fucking stalkerish otherwise.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: random_five on Tuesday, June 6, 2017, 21:24:33

It'd be an odd thing if it isn't real though. It's not as though it's an amusing parody or anything. It just seems to be somebody that is, or is pretending to be, a lower league manager and has been doing so for about a year.


Agreed


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wokinghamred on Wednesday, June 7, 2017, 07:39:50
I'm very impressed with Mr Flitcroft so far.
He certainly says all the right things.
Lets hope it translates into action.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 7, 2017, 09:28:54
Apparently he is a motivator, something we could have done with for the last 4 games.

Also he likes to sign several players and players that he knows well and has signed before, sounds like PdC crossed with Luggy.

Not a great track record but also not that bad either with a fair 38.6% win ratio from 202 games.

As with all new managers it could easily go either way but he sounds like a decent appointment, as FH says on the Barnsley & Bury forums they say a mixed bag about him erring slightly more to the negative side of his management.

Some managers fit clubs so lets hope he fits us and we fit him.

At least he has experience and its not Dave Hockaday.

Onwards and upwards.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Wednesday, June 7, 2017, 09:43:48
I'm just happy we've got a manager now. One that isn't big fat Steve and one that isn't Luke 'charisma' Williams!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, June 7, 2017, 09:48:10
I'm very impressed with Mr Flitcroft so far.
He certainly says all the right things.
Lets hope it translates into action.

Yes was also impressed with his interview, but after Luke I think it would have been difficult not to be. The fact he waited for assurances was promising too.

Nice to see another Wokingham based Town fan too!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 7, 2017, 12:13:17
Yes was also impressed with his interview, but after Luke I think it would have been difficult not to be. The fact he waited for assurances was promising too.

Nice to see another Wokingham based Town fan too!

Luke was by some distance the worst manager in our history. 

Flitcroft, saying things which suggest at least basic competence is bound to look like an upgrade. 

TBF to Luke he wasn't really a manager, more a cone carrier given the job. The continuing mystery is why Power kept him in place for so long when it was evident he was inept. Which leads me to an instinctive mistrust of Power, which I'll keep until seeing some concrete evidence of a change.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, June 7, 2017, 13:10:54
Appointing Flitcroft is evidence in my eyes.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 7, 2017, 15:08:21
Appointing Flitcroft is evidence in my eyes.

Well yes it's a start, but the planning application change may suggest that Power has more interest in a property deal than the club. The club being a means to an end, so its status not mattering too much.

I take the point that it matters not if Power gets some money as long as the club, gets something as well. So more evidence needed for me than the appointment of a competent Div 4 boss.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 12:37:55
 No mention on here of the statement that the "Swindon Way" has been binned according to Flitcroft.

It's a positive that the manager wants to try and win games, bizarre as it may seem, that hasn't been the case of late.

Lou Macari, always used to go on about recruiting players with a will to win, of course it helps if they've ability, but in Div 4 that won't always be the case.

We've had too many players recently, who just don't care about the result, allowed to have that attitude by the coaching staff.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 12:43:23
Well yes it's a start, but the planning application change may suggest that Power has more interest in a property deal than the club. The club being a means to an end, so its status not mattering too much.

I take the point that it matters not if Power gets some money as long as the club, gets something as well. So more evidence needed for me than the appointment of a competent Div 4 boss.

What planning application change, they are just consulting on ideas I wasn't aware an application had been prepared and submitted?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 12:45:19
Can't see many, if any, young loanees fitting Flitcroft's plan. Talking of loans, someone mentioned to me Richie Towell of Brighton - but that was before the new man came in.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 12:46:45
Im just hoping the management style goes from touchy feelie to smashy testes.  It'd be nice to see the players try.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 12:51:32
Has he signed anyone yet, if we don't have 20 players in by Friday all hell will break loose.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 12:52:24
What planning application change, they are just consulting on ideas I wasn't aware an application had been prepared and submitted?

I think you know what I mean... looking at houses rather than holiday lodges.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 12:57:08
I'm personally looking forward to being able to view corners as a way of creating goal scoring opportunities rather than just a way of restarting the game.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 13:02:00
I'm personally looking forward to being able to view corners as a way of creating goal scoring opportunities rather than just a way of restarting the game.

I've viewed our corners as a goalscoring opportunity for the opposition under Luke.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 13:11:38
I think you know what I mean... looking at houses rather than holiday lodges.

I know exactly what you mean, I also suspect that it was deliberately worded in such a way to be factually incorrect but act as a trolling exercise to get a bite from the Power out brigade...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 13:46:32
I'm personally looking forward to being able to view corners as a way of creating goal scoring opportunities rather than just a way of restarting the game.

It will be nice to see crosses from the wings instead of trying to play everything through the middle and pass the ball into the back of the net


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DV Canio on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 14:00:13
Hmm, I've sat back and not comment on our new gaffer yet.

I've given myself time to sit back and have a think but actually after that my current thoughts are still the same as my first reaction

MEH.

I'm not overwhelmed by this appointment nor am I extremely disappointed and I honestly think that is a good thing. If anything I think we needed a MEH appointment.

Its probably the first manager in a while that hasn't divided the fanbase for one reason or another. I don't think people feel strongly enough one way or the other so perhaps, just maybe he'll give full backing from everyone even if it is in a meh sort of way.

I don't know much about him other than he's Garry Flitcrofts brother. From what I understand he kept Barnsley in the Championship before he was sacked. The following season they went down. He got Bury out of L2 and they are still in L1 now.
So, he at least kept Barnsley steady (before Wilson took them down) and improved Bury enough for them to stay in L1. So that's fairly adequate results without rooting up any trees.

So, I'd say he's had relative success where he has been previously and has the experience we've been crying out for. So I think its a solid if unspectacular appoint, which I think is exactly what we needed.

Now he just needs a complete new squad...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 16:10:21
Now he just needs a complete new squad...

Flitcroft has a hell of a job on his hands, 8 weeks to recruit an entire new squad, organise a pre season friendly programme, find some staff, get the players up to fitness and instil a new mentality.

TBF, it isn't realistic to expect us to hit the ground running....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 16:31:50
 I'm hoping he'll be a bit more positive about the task ahead than you sound, Reg  ;)




[You are right by the way]


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 16:40:10
Flitcroft has a hell of a job on his hands, 8 weeks to recruit an entire new squad, organise a pre season friendly programme, find some staff, get the players up to fitness and instil a new mentality.

TBF, it isn't realistic to expect us to hit the ground running....

Bollocks. We'll be champions by Christmas.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 16:45:35
I'm hoping he'll be a bit more positive about the task ahead than you sound, Reg  ;)




[You are right by the way]

Well he's said he'll need to talk to 80 players... so he clearly understands what's ahead.  I doubt there'll be any official movement during the remaining 3 weeks of June, while contracts run down, so an opportunity to do stuff in the background.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ticker45 on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 16:52:40
Flitcroft has a hell of a job on his hands, 8 weeks to recruit an entire new squad, organise a pre season friendly programme, find some staff, get the players up to fitness and instil a new mentality.

TBF, it isn't realistic to expect us to hit the ground running....

Brian Clough always maintained that it took a new player six months to really settle into a team. Whether that still stands under more modern management and training methods I can only guess. Will not be looking for miracles before Christmas as the run-in from January is the most important as was proven by our ineptitude last season.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 16:58:32
Brian Clough always maintained that it took a new player six months to really settle into a team. Whether that still stands under more modern management and training methods I can only guess. Will not be looking for miracles before Christmas as the run-in from January is the most important as was proven by our ineptitude last season.

Good points. It's always maintained that it's the pre-season work, that pays dividends at the back end of a season.  Again something we saw last season when the pre-season was again a mess.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 19:09:55
Quote
Swindon Town FC‏Verified account @Official_STFC  3m3 minutes ago
More
 Swindon Town can confirm that @flitcroftdavid2 is NOT the account of David Flitcroft. He does NOT have Twitter.

Some people really need to get out more.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 19:46:31
Some people really need to get out more.

To be fair ASD was asked to confirm if it was genuine or not, so I guess they decided to confirm it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 19:49:25
To be fair ASD was asked to confirm if it was genuine or not, so I guess they decided to confirm it

I think he meant fake Flitcroft


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: REDBUCK on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 20:09:06

It's a positive that the manager wants to try and win games, bizarre as it may seem, that hasn't been the case of late.

We've had too many players recently, who just don't care about the result, allowed to have that attitude by the coaching staff.

Of course neither of these statements that you state as fact can be known to be true by you.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 8, 2017, 20:30:12
The new gaffer definitely knows how to talk the talk:

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2017/june/flitcroft---the-hard-work-starts-now/


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Friday, June 9, 2017, 13:51:43
Never realised Flitcroft signed El Abd on loan when he was at Bury. Not sure if I'd want him back here, although he's probably a Flitcroft type.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, June 9, 2017, 14:59:59
Never realised Flitcroft signed El Abd on loan when he was at Bury. Not sure if I'd want him back here, although he's probably a Flitcroft type.

Think they fell out


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bathford on Sunday, June 11, 2017, 16:10:20
This may have already been mentioned, so sorry if I'm repeating things. When is DF being formally introduced at the CG?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, June 11, 2017, 16:21:19
Some time next week.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Sunday, June 11, 2017, 16:44:57
Some time next week.
That is the plan, he is actually been in America this past week!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bathford on Sunday, June 11, 2017, 19:04:12
Cheers!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, June 12, 2017, 12:39:13
This may have already been mentioned, so sorry if I'm repeating things. When is DF being formally introduced at the CG?

Does he need to be, not sure anything can be asked that has not already been asked, he seems to be quite open with the local press which makes a refreshing change


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 12, 2017, 12:45:16
A week in the post and still no signings - we are doomed to the minor leagues aren't we, will be Sunday football level in 5 years*.


* Not really but thought I would get it said before the professional doomsayers say it!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, June 12, 2017, 12:53:47
Does he need to be, not sure anything can be asked that has not already been asked, he seems to be quite open with the local press which makes a refreshing change
The cheese question is still unresolved and we still need a scarf over the head at the CG. Big issues outstanding.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, June 12, 2017, 13:51:26
The cheese question is still unresolved and we still need a scarf over the head at the CG. Big issues outstanding.
I think he should combine the two and just pose for photos with his favourite cheese over his head. Saves everyone time


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 12, 2017, 14:42:22
I'm into the cheese q via ASD


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 12, 2017, 16:05:02
I think he should combine the two and just pose for photos with his favourite cheese over his head. Saves everyone time

Something like this?

http://imgur.com/a/z4Iyp


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, June 12, 2017, 17:19:32
Something like this?

http://imgur.com/a/z4Iyp
It's not over his head
Baby Bel is not cheese - we're back in Shit Bacon country again, aren't we?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 12, 2017, 18:08:01
It's not over his head
Baby Bel is not cheese - we're back in Shit Bacon country again, aren't we?

I'm fairly sure Cooper claimed it was his favourite cheese, which was one of the main black marks against his name.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 12, 2017, 18:20:13
fucking hell, it's one step away from Dairylea triangles,

we'll be at squirty cheese next.

where will it end. where?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, June 12, 2017, 18:53:05
Babybel might not be cheese but it's deicious.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 12, 2017, 20:47:51
Official unveiling of Flitcroft 13.30pm Wednesday.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, June 12, 2017, 20:48:40
fucking hell, it's one step away from Dairylea triangles,

we'll be at squirty cheese next.

where will it end. where?
Dairylea triangles  - Delicious -where will it end ??? - bottom left corner usually (or on your shirt). If you're a real dare devil get into a Dairylea Dunker.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leftside on Monday, June 12, 2017, 21:49:20
Official unveiling of Flitcroft 13.30pm Wednesday.
You don't need the 'pm' and a colon separator is more conventional than a dot.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, June 12, 2017, 21:54:36
You don't need the 'pm' and a colon separator is more conventional than a dot.
Seems it's not the only 'pm' not needed lately.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, June 12, 2017, 23:22:54
Seems it's not the only 'pm' not needed lately.
Thank god you went for that and not the colon separator - eeuuuggghhh :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 11:08:01
 Flitcroft on the likely recruitment....

Quote
Recruitment wise, I don’t think we could have afforded the players who are at the top end,” added Flitcroft.

“I have been working strategically with Leicester and have been speaking to so many different people and looking at every U23 game going.

“Those players have already been signed by the real big hitters in League One and the big hitters in League Two. We probably weren’t in the market for them.”

Think you have it right there. People are going to have to be realistic about what might be coming in... sounds like more academy lads.  I'd be interested to know who are the big hitters in Div 4  :hmmm:  presumably FGR, Mansfield, Luton, Cov, Lincoln ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 11:10:24
Kind of goes against Power's claim that we'd have the biggest budget in League 2. I predict a meltdown..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 11:13:20
Kind of goes against Power's claim that we'd have the biggest budget in League 2. I predict a meltdown..
You missheard him, he said biggest budgie in L2.

(http://www.kencorish.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/p1010446.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 11:23:24
You missheard him, he said biggest budgie in L2.

(http://www.kencorish.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/p1010446.jpg)
That would suffice for me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 11:27:19
You missheard him, he said biggest budgie in L2.

(http://www.kencorish.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/p1010446.jpg)

Budgie, seminal Welsh rockers from the late 60's early 70's... credited with inspiring a whole lotta metal outfits.

Their gigs at the Swindon College and maybe even the Town Hall, still spoken of reverential terms by gnalrled veterans.

I think Power said a competitive budgie...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: derbystfc on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 11:31:41
Budgie, seminal Welsh rockers from the late 60's early 70's... credited with inspiring a whole lotta metal outfits.

Their gigs at the Swindon College and maybe even the Town Hall, still spoken of reverential terms by gnalrled veterans.

I think Power said a competitive budgie...

Breadfan such a good song!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 11:44:09
 I think when Power said we'd have a competitive budgie, he has something like Los Periquitos (The Budgies) of Espanyol in mind.

 (http://www.fuerzaperica.com/media/galeria/37/5/4/7/0/n_rcd_espanyol_varios-200745.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sir windon on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 11:51:55
You don't need the 'pm' and a colon separator is more conventional than a dot.

'GRAMMAR TERRORIST ATTACKS PM!'


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 12:51:15
Budgie, seminal Welsh rockers from the late 60's early 70's... credited with inspiring a whole lotta metal outfits.

Their gigs at the Swindon College and maybe even the Town Hall, still spoken of reverential terms by gnalrled veterans.

I think Power said a competitive budgie...
I saw them at the Oasis and they were excellent. First band I ever saw. I heard Breadfan recently and was looking at buying a treble CD of their first 3 albums.....or getting it for Fathers Day. Yet again, the TEF goes off on a meaningful tangent for me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 14:22:00
Who are going to be the big hitters in L2 then, Mansfield maybe who seem to hoovering up players, maybe Coventry also cant really think of any other team that will be able to throw a few quid around in L2



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 14:27:31
Who are going to be the big hitters in L2 then, Mansfield maybe who seem to hoovering up players, maybe Coventry also cant really think of any other team that will be able to throw a few quid around in L2


As Reg says FGR and Lincoln will have a few quid spare, Luton possibly but not to the same extent of the others.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 15:24:41
As Reg says FGR and Lincoln will have a few quid spare, Luton possibly but not to the same extent of the others.

The 5 I mentioned, for sure. Difficult to tell what Vale are up to, as they're up for sale I believe, as are Chesterfield I think.

Normally both of these would be pretty similar to us.... I'd imagine they'll be scrimping until sold.

Vale are already looking at the loan market, and receiving a reality check.... that clubs want their lads playing at the highest level possible.

This from PV legend Phil Sproson...

Quote
Players are more marketable in League One than League Two, that is just the cold, hard facts and that is not Michael Brown's fault."


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: phelpsieboy on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 17:52:43
Don't read too much into Flitcrofts comments regarding the budget size. He repeatedly downplayed Bury's budget, despite them having the largest budget in League Two.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 17:57:15
Not many clubs pay actual money for players in L2. There's loads of players out there and I trust Flitcroft to filter the decent ones more than Power.

I can see no reason why we shouldn't be challenging next season. Looking forward to it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 18:18:57
Don't read too much into Flitcrofts comments regarding the budget size. He repeatedly downplayed Bury's budget, despite them having the largest budget in League Two.

Far better from a negotiation stand point with future players/clubs as well. Not to mention what's the point of saying I wished we could have signed x player when you can do nothing about it now anyway.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 18:38:49
Far better from a negotiation stand point with future players/clubs as well. Not to mention what's the point of saying I wished we could have signed x player when you can do nothing about it now anyway.

Exactly, if you say we've got a big (for L2) transfer kitty the price of players immediately goes up.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 18:48:10
Exactly, if you say we've got a big (for L2) transfer kitty the price of players immediately goes up.

It's a fair point that Flitcroft might be wishing to dampen agent's hopes rather than Town fan's hopes with an article in the Adver.

The BTL lot on the Adver site, think we're the 3rd biggest club in Div 4 after Pompey and Plymuff  :)  despite anything Flitcroft says about budgies.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Mother Brown on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 21:18:14
It's a fair point that Flitcroft might be wishing to dampen agent's hopes rather than Town fan's hopes with an article in the Adver.

The BTL lot on the Adver site, think we're the 3rd biggest club in Div 4 after Pompey and Plymuff  :)  despite anything Flitcroft says about budgies.
Adam Faith or the feathery type.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 08:56:25
Anyone know if the press conference is being broadcast on the local radio or not? Not that i should think there is much more to say at this time given all the interview content over the last week and i assume its too early to know more about back room staff or incoming players.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 09:57:25
Anyone know if the press conference is being broadcast on the local radio or not? Not that i should think there is much more to say at this time given all the interview content over the last week and i assume its too early to know more about back room staff or incoming players.
Radio Wiltshire are meant to be covering it!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 10:04:14
Believe it will also be facebook live on the adver


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 10:56:26
Believe it will also be facebook live on the adver
That will just be a live stream of Power's hand over the lens of the Adver bloke's phone :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 11:08:37
hahaha


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 11:15:22
I'm meeting Phil down there. I've heard he's looking for an apprentice.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 11:37:33
It's a fair point that Flitcroft might be wishing to dampen agent's hopes rather than Town fan's hopes with an article in the Adver.

The BTL lot on the Adver site, think we're the 3rd biggest club in Div 4 after Pompey and Plymuff  :)  despite anything Flitcroft says about budgies.

Am I being whooshed here but didn't Pompey and the Muff get promoted out of that division last season?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 11:40:50
Am I being whooshed here but didn't Pompey and the Muff get promoted out of that division last season?

Of course, but there are thisis respondents, who haven't quite realised this yet  :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 13:39:32
Ben Futcher will be assistant.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 13:44:25
Obika off  :cry:

Probably for the best though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 13:45:29
Sherwood gone


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 13:59:56
Sherwood gone
Weigh ⚓️


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 14:09:07
Forgot this was on, is there a link to it somewhere or was it dull?

Looking on the website (which suggests a link will be up later) found this, didn't know this sort of thing still happened? https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2017/june/town-seeking-digs-for-scholars/



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 14:09:23
Listened to the Press Conf from the adver facebook - it is nice to be able to hear the whole thing and the questions from all media rather than when RS always cut off


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: HorlocksLegs on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 14:14:06
Here is the Vod -  https://www.facebook.com/adversport/videos/765330386971223/


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 14:31:35
Like what I heard. Fair play to Power for giving up his role, don't think many expected him to do that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 15:09:56
I like the way Power talks, and it did have a certain humour when his phone started ringing mid presser...

Obligatory scarf shot now available, so its all official!

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/874982582865338369


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 15:14:51
Obika off  :cry:

Probably for the best though.

Very very overrated.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 15:23:09
Obligatory scarf shot now available, so its all official!

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/874982582865338369
Over your fucking head Flitcroft! Christ, you had one job ....

... that's it, it's over for me. Flitcroft OUT!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 15:24:39
Over your fucking head Flitcroft! Christ, you had one job ....

... that's it, it's over for me. Flitcroft OUT!!

He did say hes going to change things. Off to a good start.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: HorlocksLegs on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 15:34:34
Sam Parkin interview -  https://www.facebook.com/BBCWiltshire/videos/779859605516832/


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 15:43:50
He did say hes going to change things. Off to a good start.

A head start..... I am here all week unfortunately?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 15:45:24
Ben Futcher will be assistant.
His dad Paul Futcher was a good centre back with Man City, Luton and Barnsley, died at the end of last year IIRC.

Very tall and imposing at about 6 foot 7 and is apparently a bit of a mean character, some ex Bury players called him a bit of a bully, could be a massive culture shock to some of our young lads!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 17:43:16
His dad Paul Futcher was a good centre back with Man City, Luton and Barnsley, died at the end of last year IIRC.

Very tall and imposing at about 6 foot 7 and is apparently a bit of a mean character, some ex Bury players called him a bit of a bully, could be a massive culture shock to some of our young lads!

Not that I would defend bullying per se but I do think that we could do with someone a bit more aggressive and promoting hard work to the team wouldn't go amiss.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 18:18:51
A lot of players called PDC a bully as well. Often depends if you are in favour or not. I don't want bully's in our club. But someone who pushes the players hard would be very welcome.

Now it's a waiting game to see what standard of players enter the building.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 18:21:13
Not that I would defend bullying per se but I do think that we could do with someone a bit more aggressive and promoting hard work to the team wouldn't go amiss.
TBH the partnership does sound exactly what we were missing last season in the management.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 18:53:29
Over your fucking head Flitcroft! Christ, you had one job ....

... that's it, it's over for me. Flitcroft OUT!!

He didn't want to face the wrath of the Davis, so he decided to comply.

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19059294_1559153010791205_1335967811945322323_n.jpg?oh=749af1c68557c177a5083a97f6c2e761&oe=599BD5A6)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 18:59:57
Bloody conformist.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 21:00:22
Bloody conformist.
I'm sure someone will use that as a reason not to renew their season ticket.

Back to Budgie-chat... I first heard them on Planet Rock some years ago and couldn't believe I'd not heard of them before. I heard 'breadfan' as 'bread van' and imagined a Postman Pat-like character pootling about the Valleys delivering bread in his little van.

The singer/bassist Burke Shelley featured on an ace BBC4 doc on British rock/metal saying as a Christian he couldn't get with the darker/Satanic side to the genre - it sounded wonderful in his lovely Cardiff accent.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 21:16:59
Back to Budgie-chat... I first heard them on Planet Rock some years ago and couldn't believe I'd not heard of them before. I heard 'breadfan' as 'bread van' and imagined a Postman Pat-like character pootling about the Valleys delivering bread in his little van.


I saw them at Goldiggers in Chippenham supporting Gillan


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 21:22:52
Here is the Vod -  https://www.facebook.com/adversport/videos/765330386971223/

He comes across very well, hopefully the players we already have buy into his philosophy.

I get the feeling that we will at the very least have a team that is organised & works for each other


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 23:35:52
Here is the Vod -  https://www.facebook.com/adversport/videos/765330386971223/
Thanks for the link. 

Like what he says.  It's recruitment that is the immediate priority and the success or otherwise of this will impact on Flitcroft's overall performance.  As Power indicated, the squad for the second half of last season should have been able to compete and I'd like to think Flitcroft could have motivated it better.  He's been quite successful. 

I'm always interested however what it takes for a manager/ management team to turn round a shocking run?  Flitcroft didn't turn anything round at Bury but he unlike Williams he was sacked in a timely manner.  I do think being able to arrest that 10 game shocker of a run is quite a key skill however - even if the manager may need outside help or chairman support.  Williams was just indulged.

Let's hope we can get two or three leaders as players in the team. We may have to become "dirty western bastards"?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 00:12:57
Sam Parkin interview -  https://www.facebook.com/BBCWiltshire/videos/779859605516832/

That's an extremely encouraging interview, seems honest and forthcoming enough to tell it like it is to all parties.  On this evidence I don't think we'll have any bullshit post match interviews, seems like he'll open up and say on the day we just weren't good enough if we lose but unlike the last 18 months I think we have somebody there who will work to fix the inefficiencies ahead of the following fixture.

Really like that he referenced Spurs in relation to the work done without the ball and also how the appointment of the fitness/performance coach is vital to him.  After seeing how fit we were under PDC and how effective even the most talented footballers can be at closing the opposition down - also see Barcelona of 3 or 4 years ago - I see no reason why any team shouldn't be able to work their arses off for 90+ minutes if they buy into the philosophy, if it's not beneath Kane, Alli, Son, Eriksen, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta et al then it better not be beneath a L2 player.

We need this ethic as a fanbase more than ever and we need a manager who will stand up and be counted, if DF falls short then I firmly believe that he will have given everything to try and achieve something here.  We need a pragmatist who is allowed to speak his own mind and we need somebody the fanbase can identify with, it's been a long time since we had that in many ways, OK PDC united most of us and we were all hoping Ling could put his demons to bed and take us forward but it has been some time since we had a a real grafter who relates to the common man.

At the very, very least I expect the DF edition of STFC to fight for each other, hopefully there will be some exiting football along the way.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 01:07:42
I saw them at Goldiggers in Chippenham supporting Gillan

Do you suffer from tinnitus now?

I did like Mother Brown's reference to the early 70's Adam Faith show. 

I always thought he was a better actor than singer.... nevertheless his pop success apparently enabled him to work for M15 spying on Fidel Castro.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 07:35:21
Why hasn't the big question been asked?  When's the new away kit being unveiled?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 08:11:24
For me it seems we have an all talking, I will big me up new manager.
I've already had enough of reading every day on ThisIs about how good he is going to be.
I can see this going tits up very quickly unless he starts signing players or good loanees.
I am getting the impression we are going to be signing players past their sell buy date from a few seasons ago, who know how he works. This apparently gets us out of Div 2.
Great



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: REDBUCK on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 08:12:16
Did I miss the cheese answers


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 08:40:04
For me it seems we have an all talking, I will big me up new manager.
I've already had enough of reading every day on ThisIs about how good he is going to be.
I can see this going tits up very quickly unless he starts signing players or good loanees.
I am getting the impression we are going to be signing players past their sell buy date from a few seasons ago, who know how he works. This apparently gets us out of Div 2.
Great


Your impression means fuck all until said players are signed.

Some of our fans would be laughable if they weren't so predictable.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 09:19:07
Your impression means fuck all until said players are signed.

Some of our fans would be laughable if they weren't so predictable.

So if you don't go along with the happy clappers you are predictable, oh.
From the views and interviews and the backing by ex players who are looking for a game, you are right, we will have to wait for the 'said players are signed'.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 09:21:42
You're getting mad about something you think might happen....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 09:23:50
You're getting mad about something you think might happen....

Probably.

The sorry of life, a real let down


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 09:29:29
I bet you're a hoot at parties.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 09:42:07
I bet you're a hoot at parties.

I haven't been to a party since my 60th birthday, and that was a flipping long time ago.
 :why:




Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 09:43:22
Probably.

The sorry of life, a real let down

If you look at some of the squads that have got promoted from L2 in the last few years... Some of them aren't up to much. A disciplined, well organised unit can count for a lot particularly in this league.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:07:33
If we don't piss this league by 10 points, I want to know the reason why.

Flitcroft out!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:08:41
He's not won a single point yet. Not good enough.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:11:02
He didn't want to face the wrath of the Davis, so he decided to comply.

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19059294_1559153010791205_1335967811945322323_n.jpg?oh=749af1c68557c177a5083a97f6c2e761&oe=599BD5A6)
About time. I've got my eye on you, Flitcroft, one wrong step in cheese selection and it's over.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:12:44
I have him down as a cheddar man. A solid, no frills kind of guy.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:15:02
So if you don't go along with the happy clappers you are predictable, oh.
From the views and interviews and the backing by ex players who are looking for a game, you are right, we will have to wait for the 'said players are signed'.


If by happy clappers you mean fans who are looking forward to a new season under a new manager with a totally different approach to the failures of the last two seasons then yes, I will clap away.

I don't reckon I'd bother with footie at all if I was as negative in June as you're coming across. Mind you I'm 28 so if you're over 60 you're looking at more than double the misery I've endured as a Swindon fan  :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:33:16
I have him down as a cheddar man. A solid, no frills kind of guy.

Proper mature cheddar though. Man's cheddar.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:39:48
He's not won a single point yet. Not good enough.
0% win ratio, not good enough.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:39:52
He will be a Lancashire man, true to his roots, trust me!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:40:20
0% win ratio, not good enough.

Looking at the league tables on the BBC he hasn't got us out of the relegation places in League 1 yet, piss poor start!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:40:46
Not once did I hear him say "three draws equals one win" but "we go again next week!"  That has got to be a major improvement on the previous incumbent - cannot bring myself to mention his name!  Each new player has to live locally which cannot be a bad thing as a bit of local pride comes to the fore so have we seen the last of range rovers and big mercs speeding back off towards London complete with their personalised number plates?  He came across as very impressive, let us hope he can get in the recruits he is eyeing up and is allowed to manage as he says.  I am sure we will be more of a team and much fitter.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:41:27
Proper mature cheddar though. Man's cheddar.

Definitely. None of that mild nonsense.

It's going to be a bit of a disappointment if we have to assign a cheese to him, though. The press need to pull their finger out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:43:27
For me it seems we have an all talking, I will big me up new manager.
I've already had enough of reading every day on ThisIs about how good he is going to be.
I can see this going tits up very quickly unless he starts signing players or good loanees.
I am getting the impression we are going to be signing players past their sell buy date from a few seasons ago, who know how he works. This apparently gets us out of Div 2.
Great

One, of many, possible scenarios.  I don't think there's a lot wrong, at this stage of the season for people to have some optimism.

My main concern atm, is, I bump into people I haven't seen for a while and  how many haven't renewed a ST.

To get these back regularly then we will need to be winning


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:43:43
Each new player has to live locally which cannot be a bad thing as a bit of local pride comes to the fore so have we seen the last of range rovers and big mercs speeding back off towards London complete with their personalised number plates?  
Is the objection to them speeding off to London, or that they're doing so in Range Rovers and Mercs with personalised number plates? Would you be happier if they were going back to London, but in shitty 10-year old Astras?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:44:17
Instead of asking stooopid questions like 'are you going to move the changing rooms as the away one is bigger'.

What sort of fucking question is that?!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:44:39
One, of many, possible scenarios.  I don't think there's a lot wrong, at this stage of the season for people to have some optimism.
WHO ARE YOU? AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH REG?????  :eek: :eek:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:48:03
WHO ARE YOU? AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH REG?????  :eek: :eek:

Reg appears to be now posting under the username 'Stevens'?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:51:05
WHO ARE YOU? AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH REG?????  :eek: :eek:

some optimism

The Power way of the last 2 seasons would be more likely to get us out of Div 4 downwards. I'm reasonably happy atm that Flitcroft will avoid that ignominy.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 10:54:07
Reg appears to be now posting under the username 'Stevens'?
:D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 11:04:06
If by happy clappers you mean fans who are looking forward to a new season under a new manager with a totally different approach to the failures of the last two seasons then yes, I will clap away.

I don't reckon I'd bother with footie at all if I was as negative in June as you're coming across. Mind you I'm 28 so if you're over 60 you're looking at more than double the misery I've endured as a Swindon fan  :)

I've come to the conclusion that anyone that refers to other fans as happy clappers or glad all over brigade lose all credibility before they have even begun so take their view with a pinch of salt.  Maybe not fair but all of the dicks on that FB page refer to fans as that so I assume they are part of the same clan, just trolling and looking for a rise.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 11:04:26
Just noticed the following contribution from "Bury Taxpayer" on the Adver site.

 "Unlucky for you David Flitcroft has been installed as your new manager ...even worse he's brought in Ben Futcher, Ben Futcher just about caused every single fall out amongst the Team we had at Bury....he lost respect left right and centre through his poor Man Management skills...he spoke to players like they were dogshit... (this i've heard first hand) which ultimatly caused a huge divide in the changing room that played it part in going 20 something games without a win (our worst ever streak to my knowledge)

Flitcroft has an ego about him, if you have any player at your club that is regarded as a "legend" or a fan favourite..then his days will be numbered ....Flitcroft does not like anyone at his clubs that takes the limelight from himself-he got rid of our Captain Peter Clarke somebody who was pivotal in our promotion push that season, he was our absolute brick wall that scooped the majority of the player of the season awards at the end of the season-his excuse was that he was too slow at tracking back. He also has an obsession with Goalkeepers ...if things are going wrong, or your going through a rough patch then he will replace your Keeper...he will confuse you in post match interviews with ramblings about "DNA" and "Synergy" whilst trying to make you believe that the embarrassing the 6 nil defeat you have just suffered was not his fault....

In any case i and on behalf of the majority of Bury FC fans wish you luck....you will need it."


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: corner on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 11:11:50
That post reads very similar to the Bury fan who came on here not so long ago  :sherlock: someone with a vendetta?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 11:18:56
That post reads very similar to the Bury fan who came on here not so long ago  :sherlock: someone with a vendetta?

That's what I thought... Shaker.

The not wanting popular players around, won't enter into it.  We have none.

I don't think you'll find too many Town fans worried about a cone collector, who isn't very nice.

I'd like to hear Flitcroft's thoughts on te terrible run which saw him sacked. Was it down to injuries etc, or the players wanting him gone?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 11:39:51
I've come to the conclusion that anyone that refers to other fans as happy clappers or glad all over brigade lose all credibility before they have even begun so take their view with a pinch of salt.  Maybe not fair but all of the dicks on that FB page refer to fans as that so I assume they are part of the same clan, just trolling and looking for a rise.

I only use this forum to post and not any other, I do not post very often though, it took me ages to receive the 'cunt' message.

If you have an opinion which is not the norm on here (and this has nothing to do with your comments Berniman), you get a lot of flack, which I don't mind at all, too old in my boots to take offence. It does seem to frighten off a lot of posters though, and the forum is worse for it.

My mistake to call a fan or a collective of fans 'happy clappers' and for that I am a cunt.







Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ron dodgers on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 11:45:13
does Norm still post, I'm not sure, you're not really a cunt more of a cockwomble :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stevens on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 11:57:13
does Norm still post, I'm not sure, you're not really a cunt more of a cockwomble :D

Never heard of a Cockwomble before so had to look it up:

'A completely useless person that spouts constant bullshit'

I feel the love Cunt!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 13:02:14
For me it seems we have an all talking, I will big me up new manager.
I've already had enough of reading every day on ThisIs about how good he is going to be.
I can see this going tits up very quickly unless he starts signing players or good loanees.
I am getting the impression we are going to be signing players past their sell buy date from a few seasons ago, who know how he works. This apparently gets us out of Div 2.
Great



Christ, give the bloke a chance. He was only appointed just over a week ago.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 13:09:31
One, of many, possible scenarios.  I don't think there's a lot wrong, at this stage of the season for people to have some optimism.

My main concern atm, is, I bump into people I haven't seen for a while and  how many haven't renewed a ST.

To get these back regularly then we will need to be winning

I'm not sure getting fans back will be all down to DF either. I think it could take 6 months to a year for some fans to trust LP again too. I'm cautiously optimistic that LP will now be hands off but the proof will be in the pudding. I think some will wait and see how things play out over the next 6-12 months before making a decision.

But overall I'm very happy with the appointment of DF :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 13:20:59
LP will now be hands off

IMHO he went hands off as soon as Sherwood came in, Sherwood took control of transfers / recruitment (as well as "helping" Williams with training and other stuff) as Power knew that he needed someone else to handle it going forward. He threw his last throw of the dice with his "methods" by employing Sherwood to work with Luke but it just never really worked, some fans blame Sherwood for our relegation but he was just one part of a machine that was in dire need of replacement.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 13:31:00
IMHO he went hands off as soon as Sherwood came in, Sherwood took control of transfers / recruitment (as well as "helping" Williams with training and other stuff) as Power knew that he needed someone else to handle it going forward. He threw his last throw of the dice with his "methods" by employing Sherwood to work with Luke but it just never really worked, some fans blame Sherwood for our relegation but he was just one part of a machine that was in dire need of replacement.

Do you actually know Lee Power, otherwise this entire post is pure speculation being passed off as some manner of ITK nonsense?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 13:53:59
Do you actually know Lee Power, otherwise this entire post is pure speculation being passed off as some manner of ITK nonsense?

Although I dismiss his posts as 90% drivel (not sure if that's good or bad!), he did start that one with IMHO ...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: garethgillman on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 13:56:32
Do you actually know Lee Power, otherwise this entire post is pure speculation being passed off as some manner of ITK nonsense?

I started with "IMHO", where did I insinuate it was ITK? ........ why else would he bring in Sherwood and then say he will be dealing with transfers using his contacts. When Sherwood came in, that's when Power started having an interest in Waterford so Power's time was even more tied up so in my opinion (imo) Sherwood was brought in to do the jobs Power was so Power could concentrate more on his other business ventures (Waterford, Horse racing, training ground).

I could be well off the mark but that's the most logical reason why Sherwood came in (that's what a DoF does) unless you are of the "Sherwood was a smokescreen to screw millions from the club for his best mate" brigade then realistically Power knew early on last season he had made mistakes in the summer, Sherwood was his get out of jail card (hence bigging him up as the biggest signing etc) but it royally bit him in the ass.

Realistically we can only guess why Power did what he did and too me that seems the most logical reason.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 14:02:50
And to be fair, Power did say about Sherwood handling things so it's not exactly a wild stab in the dark.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 14:19:03
So if you don't go along with the happy clappers you are predictable, oh.
From the views and interviews and the backing by ex players who are looking for a game, you are right, we will have to wait for the 'said players are signed'.


Its June and the fixtures for next season haven't even been announced.

What is it with some of our fans that are so negative all the time. Give it a month and we have 6 players on the book, then we can panic.

Can't we just wait and see what the new manager brings and stop being knee-jerkers ALL the time? Its pretty tedious.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Chrystovski on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 14:33:00
IMHO he went hands off as soon as Sherwood came in, Sherwood took control of transfers / recruitment (as well as "helping" Williams with training and other stuff) as Power knew that he needed someone else to handle it going forward. He threw his last throw of the dice with his "methods" by employing Sherwood to work with Luke but it just never really worked, some fans blame Sherwood for our relegation but he was just one part of a machine that was in dire need of replacement.

Knowing our past connections with Sherwood,  Spurs players & recommending LW etc, appointing him as DOF was never LP being hands off, it was all still too close to home. I'd say this is the 1st time since he's been in charge that's he fully handed the reigns over. I think it speaks volumes that DF's job title is manager and not Head Coach.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 14:33:08
The first test seems to be finding someone actually prepared to play us in pre-season, I didn't realise the manager had so much involvement in arranging such pre-season games.

I assume we will play Supermarine as always and maybe some team from Leicester taking note of Flitcrofts connections?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 15:15:20
To wait for a June appointed manager to arrange a pre-season schedule was a bit silly. This sort of stuff starts getting pencilled  in during March/April.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 15:43:38
 DF said something in the presser about Portsmouth having too many games and that they were trying to get rid of a couple... :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 16:33:22
 See Stevenage have signed Harry Beautyman...he's one we were so say after, but he went to Cobblers.

 Maybe Stevenage will be one of the Div 4 big hitters  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, June 16, 2017, 09:34:22
Do you suffer from tinnitus now?

Fortunately not, although I did also see Motörhead there. T'was the loudest gig I have ever been to


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: donkey on Friday, June 16, 2017, 09:43:17
He's not won a single point yet. Not good enough.

Unbelievable...the guy hasn't lost a single game, and you're already on his back. For shame.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 16, 2017, 09:56:06
Unbelievable...the guy hasn't lost a single game, and you're already on his back. For shame.


BUT WE'VE HAD NO SHOTS ON TARGET YOU POWER LOVER!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Friday, June 16, 2017, 09:58:30
FORWAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 16, 2017, 10:04:16
It was interesting during the DF interview with Sam Parkin that when Bury played us he thought we were quite easy to play against given our pointless total football philosophy.

As well as the more aggressive, hard working style with using the wings etc that the football will be more 'exciting' and with it the atmosphere at the CG should be improved, which can only be a good thing as its been terrible the last couple of seasons. If we can get the fans back behind the team, it surely bodes well.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 16, 2017, 11:01:12
BUT WE'VE HAD NO SHOTS ON TARGET YOU POWER LOVER!
Burn the happy clapper, burn him!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, June 16, 2017, 12:01:22
It was interesting during the DF interview with Sam Parkin that when Bury played us he thought we were quite easy to play against given our pointless total football philosophy.

As well as the more aggressive, hard working style with using the wings etc that the football will be more 'exciting' and with it the atmosphere at the CG should be improved, which can only be a good thing as its been terrible the last couple of seasons. If we can get the fans back behind the team, it surely bodes well.

A total football philosophy is not pointless if you have the players/coach/manager appropriate to make it work. Footballing teams probably look at aggressive teams in contrasting terms, ie, that was never a risk as they couldn't keep the ball and kept giving it back to us.

I'm all for more aggression and physicality in the team. We've been bullied for far too long with the exception of the PDC team. That does not come at the cost of playing attractive passing football though, look at Spurs/Chelsea this season.

If they go too far the other way and its just long ball after long ball and endless head tennis battles it will be boring as fuck. It will probably amuse more of our fan base and the brain donors who shout 'forward' endlessly at games. It will be as pointless as passing for passing sake though.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 16, 2017, 12:10:43
It was interesting during the DF interview with Sam Parkin that when Bury played us he thought we were quite easy to play against given our pointless total football philosophy.

Tbf, Bury only beat us that day because of one of the worst refereeing displays in 50 odd years of watching the Town.

Had the 3 points rightly been ours rather than theirs, they'd be joining us next season in Div 4.

In theory  Div 4 should be a bit easier than Div 3, and it could be Flitcroft's style is better suited to that level... which is fine that's we're we are atm.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: donkey on Friday, June 16, 2017, 12:26:07
BUT WE'VE HAD NO SHOTS ON TARGET YOU POWER LOVER!
Vigs hasn't had a save to make, bloody darksiders.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Friday, June 16, 2017, 13:42:14