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Title: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: leftside on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 07:54:59
First time at this, so here goes...

I've a soft spot for the Potteries having lived there for three years while at uni. Stoke was a very down to earth place struggling a bit as most post-indy towns (x6 in this case) do. Despite the gloom, it still had a strong identity, with City and Vale being a significant part of that.

It was a great place to be a student, with several decent, small live music venues. I managed to see a fair number of bands, including Gallon Drunk, Blur, Radiohead, Spectrum, Corduroy and ... Bad Manners. It was a great base for getting to Town games all over the country. At the time, Town were top dogs when it came to clubs supported by my 5-a-side team mates (Town, Burnley, Stoke, Bristol Rovers). Now we're bottom of the pile.

Today's prediction is Vale 1-0 Town. Huffing and puffing but at 5pm we'll be that much closer to relegation.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: donkey on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 08:19:56
Off to the Wembley of the North. Let's hope they've finished that stand they've been building for 20 years.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Bewster on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 09:12:49
First time at this, so here goes...

I've a soft spot for the Potteries having lived there for three years while at uni. Stoke was a very down to earth place struggling a bit as most post-indy towns (x6 in this case) do. Despite the gloom, it still had a strong identity, with City and Vale being a significant part of that.

It was a great place to be a student, with several decent, small live music venues. I managed to see a fair number of bands, including Gallon Drunk, Blur, Radiohead, Spectrum, Corduroy and ... Bad Manners. It was a great base for getting to Town games all over the country. At the time, Town were top dogs when it came to clubs supported by my 5-a-side team mates (Town, Burnley, Stoke, Bristol Rovers). Now we're bottom of the pile.

Today's prediction is Vale 1-0 Town. Huffing and puffing but at 5pm we'll be that much closer to relegation.

let's hope you're our lucky charm G.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: leftside on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 09:49:18
let's hope you're our lucky charm G.
I'm not optimistic.

All well with you?

It's all a bit Lenten on here today.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 09:50:54
Just checked todays prices with the bookies, don't understand how they work out their prices,  we're favourites to win  at around 5/4, Vale at around 9/4 and 5/2 the draw.  As a neutral Vale win looks a reasonable price,  but hopefully the bookies have got it right.
Think I'll give this one a miss as far as the betting goes - Come on Town,  we keep getting our last chance,  lets grab it this time !!!!!
2-0 to Town (Hopefully).     :please: :please: :please:


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Sir Cliff Pipehard on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 09:59:31

They say it's the hope that kills you.
Today is our last hope. A loss today and I think that's it for league 1 football for a while.

An unsatisfactory 1-1 that we should've won,and the hope to linger on a bit longer.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 10:09:44
They say it's the hope that kills you.
Today is our last hope. A loss today and I think that's it for league 1 football for a while.

An unsatisfactory 1-1 that we should've won,and the hope to linger on a bit longer.
   :blowup: :blowup: COYR


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 10:26:43
Pre match avoidance of oatcakes in The Wheatsheaf.

So, the Wembley of the North, 3rd highest league ground.
Started in 1944, still not finished.

If today's match is shite or we are 2 or 3 down, then at least there is the outside chance of a disused mine shaft collapsing and taking both teams with it.
An allegory of the decline of heavy industry and its replacement by the entertainment & service industries.

Don't mind Stokies, a bit insular maybe, but have local pride and are generally salt of the earth proper working class people.
Hope that the descendents of the 56 people transported following the Pottery Riots of 1842 take some pride in their ancestors struggles against worker exploitation.

Good that a small town like Burslem can produce such diverse talent as Josiah Wedgewood, Lemmy, Phil Taylor and err Robbie Williams.

Last chance today, anything other than a win and it would take a miracle to stay up.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 10:45:17
Not overly confident today about our trip to "The Wembley of the North" but it does depend on who is actually fit and team selection.

PV have not won in their last 10 matches, 9 league games, scoring 8 goals and conceding 19 goals, 5 defeats and 5 draws.

We have had a mixed bag of results up there 1 defeat and 3 wins in our last 4 games up there but in the last 10 games in Burslem we have won 4 times, 3 draws and 3 defeats.

I have a feeling it will be a 0-0 draw in front of 5,123 fans with 525 Town fans attending.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 11:11:25
Wouldn't have normally travelled for this after such a shite season but special offer tickets to Alton Towers tomorrow means hotel it is. Wife nor impressed  kids fucking bouncing!!
Just so desperately need a win, if only to gloat at the wife, who thinks this is a wasted day.

COYR


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Bathtime on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 11:15:51
No reason to believe that we might actually win this but I have a feeling we just might - too important not too so lets predict a 1-2 win


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 11:59:12
I have absolutely no idea what to expect today. Vale appear to be as much as a basket case as we are this season.

I suspect we'll get a draw but a defeat or a victory wouldn't make me fall out of my seat.

It would be great to nick a win before a tough game on Tuesday night!


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 14:02:32
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6pHmjLW0AAiaz5.png:large)


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 14:02:40
Ajose starts


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 14:05:02
Nice to see Ajose and Colkett back, Dabo must have failed a fitness test then.

EDIT. Apparently not picked due to the loan restrictions.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 14:14:08
Nice to see Ajose and Colkett back, Dabo must have failed a fitness test then.

.....or simply was 'one too many' when limited to five loanees.  If fit, I would have preferred him to either Barry or BOO, though.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 14:59:15
Great to see ajose back. Missed his movement last Saturday. Don't see the fuss with colkett, looks exactly the type of player we don't need.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:01:21
Come on Swindon!!!!


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:03:52
We need to win. That is all.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:14:02
I'm hungover and watching ski jump.

I'd be pleased with a point today but can't see it.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:35:25
Does anyone care?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:36:21
Does anyone care?
Judging by less that 2 pages of posts and its near half time...it would appear not many.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:37:33
Get the fuck in!!!


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:38:28
Get in!


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:39:09
Oh FFS!


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:39:19
Well that lasted a long time. FFS.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:39:41
FFS


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:39:49
Ajose and Beeks linking up again, if we are to have any chance this season..


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:39:57
We should enter some kind of self-foot-shooting league, we'd fucking walk that  :doh:


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:39:57
How many seconds was that?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:40:11
FFS


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:40:19
Fucking reality of being ahead again..


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:40:29
How many seconds was that?
Christ, you sound like my missus


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:41:25
Schoolboy stuff. We did exactly the same at Northampton.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: china red on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:52:42
 :badmood:


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:53:10
We should enter some kind of self-foot-shooting league, we'd fucking walk that  :doh:

Maybe we need some lessons from elsewhere...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/09/elderly-farmer-shot-burglar-foot-suspected-diesel-theft-court/


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:54:05
Maybe we need some lessons from elsewhere...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/09/elderly-farmer-shot-burglar-foot-suspected-diesel-theft-court/
Reckon he could do a job at the back for us


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 15:57:46
Quote from: joteddyred
Schoolboy stuff. We did exactly the same at Northampton.
not to mention the few goals straight after half time...

to state the bleeding obvious
  missed chances ✅
  give away stupid goals ✅
  draw or lose key games when we should win ✅

that's the relegation checklist. we need it to change in the next 45 and permanently.... yeah


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:13:08
FFS


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:13:39
FFS spineless bottlejobs


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: donkey on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:14:01
More piss poor defending. Useless bunch of clowns.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:15:10
Pen to them


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:16:05
over the bar


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Outletred on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:16:54
This is seriously inept.



Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:16:56
(http://memeshappen.com/media/created/please-make-IT-stop-FOR-THE-LOVE-OF-god-MAKE-IT-stop-meme-27228.jpg)


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:17:48

We should enter some kind of self-foot-shooting league, we'd fucking walk that  :doh:

Well,limp it maybe


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:18:15
over the bar

Is it bad that their penalty miss is our potential lifeline?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:19:23
Let off.

Lose today and without a shadow of a doubt we're down.  Williams inspiring half time talk has struck again, but it's ok, he knows he'll still have a job tomorrow.  It's a fucking joke.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:21:23
how Power can seriously think Williams and Embleton are anywhere near competent is absolutely beyond me.
Shower of shite


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: herthab on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:22:03
We go again....



Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:22:29
how Power can seriously think Williams and Embleton are anywhere near competent is absolutely beyond me.
Shower of shite
I agree, we need rid of them both ASAP, they aren't up to the job.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:23:03
Let off.

Lose today and without a shadow of a doubt we're down.  Williams inspiring half time talk has struck again, but it's ok, he knows he'll still have a job tomorrow.  It's a fucking joke.

This. It's a ridiculous complacency. A job security, in a role that shouldn't be as secure. It's about the nearest thing to certain as it is that we can all be complacent that we will concede to death.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: herthab on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:24:08
The anger's gone. The frustration's gone. The hope's gone.

Now I've accepted that we're down I'm quite cheerful.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:25:34
I agree, we need rid of them both ASAP, they aren't up to the job.
Coach & Manager are very different jobs.

Whether the two are any good as coaches can be debated, what can't be is whether  either are any good as managers, they're not


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: harrisonaw on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:25:43
Commentary just summed it up again. Port Vale have changed things around and we're just doing the same thing.

BS :doh:


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:26:47
What a cunting waste of money, fortunately i didn't do this fucking journey just to watch this shower of horse shit!


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:28:37
Coach & Manager are very different jobs.

Whether the two are any good as coaches can be debated, what can't be is whether  either are any good as managers, they're not

I agree with that, however I wouldn't even want to try and find out if they may or may not be good coaches. They should both be long gone


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:32:42
What the fuck goes on at half time to make us come out and play so differently?

I honestly can't get my head round the fact that Williams continues to do such a poor job, but appears untouchable.  I genuinely believe if he'd been replaced a few weeks ago, we'd have more points on the board than we have now.  Power's insulting us all by keeping him in a role and no doubt he'll still be there in League 2.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:34:06
Quote from: Batch
not to mention the few goals straight after half time...

sigh..


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:37:34
Quote from: joteddyred
What the fuck goes on at half time to make us come out and play so differently?

I honestly can't get my head round the fact that Williams continues to do such a poor job, but appears untouchable.  I genuinely believe if he'd been replaced a few weeks ago, we'd have more points on the board than we have now.  Power's insulting us all by keeping him in a role and no doubt he'll still be there in League 2.
he (power) pulled the Sherwood con in the mistaken  belief Williams would turn out around with the largely inadequet replacements brought in during January (even the two good ones ince and ajose were too late).

but i think he'll be gone once relegation is confirmed.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:38:07
The anger's gone. The frustration's gone. The hope's gone.

Now I've accepted that we're down I'm quite cheerful.

This


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:39:19
What worries me is if we do get rid of Williams, who the fuck will we end up with?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:40:02
Just reported the club to trading standards, selling us a producr saying our squad are professional footballers


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:40:26
What worries me is if we do get rid of Williams, who the fuck will we end up with?

Some other idiot desperate for a job that will want to work under this regime


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:41:09
Too many of our players are happy to just take the wage without putting in the effort on the pitch, they want the plaudits but don't like the criticism.

We need a leader on and off the pitch, someone the players will respect and listen to, we need fitness, we need the players to put in some effort.

Not too much to ask is it?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: herthab on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:42:45
Looking forward to Tuesday!


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:42:58
Too many of our players are happy to just take the wage without putting in the effort on the pitch, they want the plaudits but don't like the criticism.

We need a leader on and off the pitch, someone the players will respect and listen to, we need fitness, we need the players to put in some effort.

Not too much to ask is it?

People will berate the shite out of me but.....yes we spent money but we had the fittest and most passionate team when "you know who" was in charge. Also they were scared of him. I remember a quote (amongst many) of his. "You do not have to like me, but if you respect me, you can win with me..."

These players (or most) have no respect for the management because the management is a bunch of pussys.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:44:02
What worries me is if we do get rid of Williams, who the fuck will we end up with?

Somebody that is not Luke Williams. I'd rather go with an unknown than somebody we know to be useless.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:44:59
i reckon I could do a better job, i mean that honestly.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:47:01
i reckon I could do a better job, i mean that honestly.

I'd rather he gave you the job if it meant getting rid of Williams. I mean that honestly as well, nothing to lose.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:48:23
I'm honestly not worried who might replace Williams. They could not do a worse job.

Barry sent off.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:49:10
People will berate the shite out of me but.....yes we spent money but we had the fittest and most passionate team when "you know who" was in charge. Also they were scared of him. I remember a quote (amongst many) of his. "You do not have to like me, but if you respect me, you can win with me..."

These players (or most) have no respect for the management because the management is a bunch of pussys.
No, I agree with that.

The man was a bit of an idiot at times but as a man manager he did seem to get the best out of the players.


Title: Re:
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:49:36
Fucking shitcunts. Hopeless


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:49:54
Brad Barry sent off for a tackle

Didnt think he had it in him


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:50:32
Ho fucking hum.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:51:20
Vales first win in 10 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: harrisonaw on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:52:23
Vales first win in 10 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

THIS YEAR


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:53:09
Di Canio would have taken most of these players off after 20 mins of their first game and you wouldn't have seen them again....Those were the days.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:53:23
And that was that.
Summer clear out will be fun


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:53:37
3-2 Norris


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:54:16
But remember we must trust our super coach. He knows exactly what he is doing and I'm sure every thing will turn out just fine in the end.......


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:54:22
If there was one team you would want to play if you're on a bad run it's Swindon.

Unfortunately we can't play ourselves, actually if we could we'd still manage to lose


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: WEBBERhyde on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:55:38
I've still not seen Norris score in the flesh....despite attending the one home league match he scored in.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:55:59
I still can't believe there are two teams below us!


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:56:31
Williams trying to wave people forward.

Just do us all a favour and let it be your final wave goodbye.



Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:58:03
Cunts


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: 1989Monkey on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:58:47
What williams bingo will it be today?

We go again on tuesday
We need to be more clinical
Decisions went against us
We keep fighting

Blah blah fucking blah


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:59:25
I still can't believe there are two teams below us!

I think it will only be Coventry below us now.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 16:59:49
What williams bingo will it be today?

We go again on tuesday
We need to be more clinical
Decisions went against us
We keep fighting

Blah blah fucking blah

Until its mathematically impossible, we go again and keep fighting


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:00:50
What williams bingo will it be today?

We go again on tuesday
We need to be more clinical
Decisions went against us
We keep fighting

Blah blah fucking blah
the man could send an insomniac to sleep :zzz:


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:00:53
What williams bingo will it be today?

We go again on tuesday
We need to be more clinical
Decisions went against us
We keep fighting

Blah blah fucking blah

Will work with the players on the training pitch.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:01:36
Until its mathematically impossible, we go again and keep fighting

Technically that's true, but the fighting bit seems to be the issue.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:03:12
Nope chesterfield are on 32 and cov on 26. Nevertheless if we go again and keep fighting we could finish bottom. Keep going lads.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:03:53
And yet again Luke Williams half time natural rohypnol team talk seems to have worked its magic.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:04:58
What a fucking shambles we have become - when Williams do the right thing and resign?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: herthab on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:06:21
What a fucking shambles we have become - when Williams do the right thing and resign?

The question should be when will Power do the right thing and sack him.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:06:49
I don't think Power likes paying for win bonuses that's why Williams is still there.



Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:09:23
I'm annoyed at myself for still caring, useless cunts,


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:13:46
The question should be when will Power do the right thing and sack him.

This.  There can't be a single Swindon fan who believes he should still be in role.  The longer Power refuses to ackowledge this and keeps him in role the more contempt he shows for us all.

Williams thinks BOO is his best spell and Brophy is continuing to improve.  Oh do fuck off, they're both lightweight and have hit their level.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:15:10
he (power) pulled the Sherwood con in the mistaken  belief Williams would turn out around with the largely inadequet replacements brought in during January (even the two good ones ince and ajose were too late).

but i think he'll be gone once relegation is confirmed.
Anytime now then !!.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:15:17
Apparently the pitch was too big!


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:16:34
The worry in this is where it may end up.  It was obvious months ago that this wasn't a set up in any way suited to maintaining Div 3 football. It really should have been easy as there's a number of teams who are also proper shite.....we've lost to 2 of them in the last 2 games.  However for whatever reason Power has wilfully neglected this club and got us down. There is absolutely nothing to suggest next season will be any different..... people may want to live in hope of something better, but I'd prefer to see the temperature raised a bit to let Power know that this shit isn't acceptable at STFC and he may wish to consider his position.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:17:57
What worries me is if we do get rid of Williams, who the fuck will we end up with?
Who cares ?,   Whoever it is - even a chimpanzee couldn't  do a worse job.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:18:05
It just sounds like the ramblings of a mad man now...


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:21:20
He's talking more shit than normal.  You can tell he's on the edge, but not going to walk as apparently that would make him a coward.



Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:23:50
WALK AWAY PLEASE


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:24:16
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Total Sport Swindon‏ @TotalSportSwin  7m7 minutes ago
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 Luke Williams asks fans if they want someone who will just walk away instead of "suffering and trying" for the club #STFC

In your case, Luke, yes. That's exactly what we want.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: 1989Monkey on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:26:20
In your case, Luke, yes. That's exactly what we want.

Will a rendition of 'we want you to go, we want you to go, Williams you useless fucker, we want you to go' on Tuesday answer his question?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Sir Cliff Pipehard on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:28:16

Remember Hereford Utd?

They're now called "Hereford FC"

This was their game last month

https://youtu.be/A9rVygrXqO0

Playing at Bath's second biggest non league side,Larkhall Athletic.

Nice view of Solsbury Hill in the background,mind.

And a rivalry with Forest Green and Chippenham Town could be fun I suppose.

Where is Guiseley?




Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:32:31
This


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:32:32
And yet again Luke Williams half time natural rohypnol team talk seems to have worked its magic.

It's those nasty opposing managers who realise we are shit and make adjustments to beat us. It's just not fair they shouldn't be allowed to do it.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:35:08
Remember Hereford Utd?

They're now called "Hereford FC"

This was their game last month

https://youtu.be/A9rVygrXqO0

Playing at Bath's second biggest non league side,Larkhall Athletic.

Nice view of Solsbury Hill in the background,mind.

And a rivalry with Forest Green and Chippenham Town could be fun I suppose.

Where is Guiseley?




Guiseley is in Yorkshire I believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIv-b9wZ6Vw


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:48:25
Hooray we had 58% possession. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:51:16
Will a rendition of 'we want you to go, we want you to go, Williams you useless fucker, we want you to go' on Tuesday answer his question?

He'd be crazy to just walk, so I'm not sure what abusing the fella is going to achieve really


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:56:16
He'd be crazy to just walk, so I'm not sure what abusing the fella is going to achieve really
exactly, as bad as its been I admire him for not walking away,  how many on here would pick up a good wage for under performing at work?
as someone pointed out earlier Power should end it


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:56:41
He'd be crazy to just walk, so I'm not sure what abusing the fella is going to achieve really

The 5 year contract was a millstone, professionally - if not financially.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 17:59:11
What the fuck goes on at half time to make us come out and play so differently?
You know the answer to that. The anaesthetist works his magic with his inspiring team talk.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 18:24:32
Well as the commentary went as Don Rog danced around Bob Wilson and stroked home...

That is that...

From Power to Sherwood to the 'Manager', Coach and woeful players ....Not good enough.

The table doesn't lie..


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 18:29:34
Apparently Williams was going to stop in at Crufts on the way back from the game, but the organisers barred him - the last thing they need at a dog show is someone who can never hold on to a lead.


It's all right, I've got me coat and the taxi's booked....


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 18:34:00
What worries me is if we do get rid of Williams, who the fuck will we end up with?

I've just read up about the Lincoln boss ahead of their game at Arsenal.
Has a very good track record, sadly I can't imagine National League Lincoln to League One Swindon Town is seen as a progressive step forward.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 18:36:58
Apparently Williams was going to stop in at Crufts on the way back from the game, but the organisers barred him - the last thing they need at a dog show is someone who can never hold on to a lead.


It's all right, I've got me coat and the taxi's booked....
:)


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 18:38:57
I've just read up about the Lincoln boss ahead of their game at Arsenal.
Has a very good track record, sadly I can't imagine National League Lincoln to League One Swindon Town is seen as a progressive step forward.
both teams will be in league 2 next season


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 19:04:09
exactly, as bad as its been I admire him for not walking away,  how many on here would pick up a good wage for under performing at work?
as someone pointed out earlier Power should end it
Admire him, are you mad ?, Why ?, I'd put up with all the shit he's getting for the money he's getting paid. He seems quite happy to collect his wages for under performing,  and so would I if some dickhead kept paying me.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 19:07:12
For a second successive season, we find ourself fielding a back four during the run in that includes Brad Barry, BOO and Branco. Frankly, we deserve to go down.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 19:21:20
Had a mate call me after the game who said the first half was ok, the second half was clueless.

He also said if you rolled together all of the things that you shouldn't do as a defender, that would describe Branco's performance today


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 19:27:24
Realistically how many of todays squad will be at the club next season? The rebuild is going to be huge?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: FrigbyDaser on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 19:44:11
Realistically how many of todays squad will be at the club next season? The rebuild is going to be huge?

The shittest are likely to stay, to be supplemented with more flaky kids and future Supermarine stalwarts.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 19:46:31
Realistically how many of todays squad will be at the club next season? The rebuild is going to be huge?

I give the next manager and assistant manager.

Mike Brewer
Ed China

Wheeler Dealers
Rebuilders on a budget


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: molepar on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 20:20:53
For a second successive season, we find ourself fielding a back four during the run in that includes Brad Barry, BOO and Branco. Frankly, we deserve to go down.
They are all absolute clowns. How many penalties has Branco given away this season? Must be more than 5?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 21:13:33
For a second successive season, we find ourself fielding a back four during the run in that includes Brad Barry, BOO and Branco. Frankly, we deserve to go down.

Don't forget thompson


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 21:29:17
Realistically how many of todays squad will be at the club next season? The rebuild is going to be huge?

The shittest are likely to stay, to be supplemented with more flaky kids and future Supermarine stalwarts.

Yeah, but you are are forgetting the master plan....The one where we are going to do the same thing next year....but .....better.

Recruitment by #TeamSherwood.

For some stupid reason I renewed my season tickets yesterday.


Title: Re: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Benzel on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 21:59:19
I'm annoyed at myself for still caring, useless cunts,
I'm comfort eating like I've just been dumped.

Sent from my SM-G930F


Title: Re: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Benzel on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 22:00:04
Will a rendition of 'we want you to go, we want you to go, Williams you useless fucker, we want you to go' on Tuesday answer his question?
I will laugh at you.

Sent from my SM-G930F


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 22:09:03
Realistically how many of todays squad will be at the club next season? The rebuild is going to be huge?

Anything more than just Vigs is too many
Unless you include loans then add Ajose and Ince.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Sir Cliff Pipehard on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 22:32:46
Guiseley is in Yorkshire I believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIv-b9wZ6Vw

Cheers Reg

I've been up Solsbury loads of times and never seen an Eagle.

Plenty of psychopathic cows though. A walk up there these days reminds me of leaving the away end at Ashton gate in the '80s


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 23:32:38
Anything more than just Vigs is too many
Unless you include loans then add Ajose and Ince.

None of them will be here next season

We'll probably pick up Newport County wonderkid


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 01:45:59
Cheers Reg

I've been up Solsbury loads of times and never seen an Eagle.

Plenty of psychopathic cows though. A walk up there these days reminds me of leaving the away end at Ashton gate in the '80s

I get the bovine malevolence. Let's face it, if you know you're off to the slaughter house, why not get angry?

I'm sure the eagle reference is poetic licence.... or maybe a Corbyn challenger, or if more than one the fella who scored against us today.

It's important to have positive images to distract you from the car crash at the CG.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 07:32:27
That was a complete shambles.
Last week without Ajose we had 20 shots 5 on target and people were saying had we had Ajose we would have won, however yesterday we had Ajose and Colkett and from 9 attempts only 2 on target. We are fucking shite, & a laughing stock.
Bollocks to the" better the devil you know" Power needs to fuck off and take that wanker Williams with him. Power sell the club and just fuck off because as a club we are finished uunder your stewardship.




Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: leftside on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 08:06:18
That was a complete shambles.
Last week without Ajose we had 20 shots 5 on target and people were saying had we had Ajose we would have won, however yesterday we had Ajose and Colkett and from 9 attempts only 2 on target. We are fucking shite, & a laughing stock.
Bollocks to the" better the devil you know" Power needs to fuck off and take that wanker Williams with him. Power sell the club and just fuck off because as a club we are finished uunder your stewardship.
Just because someone is crap at their job, it doesn't make them a 'wanker' or a 'cunt' (chant during Oldham game, I think). 


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 08:13:41
Just because someone is crap at their job, it doesn't make them a 'wanker' or a 'cunt' (chant during Oldham game, I think). 

I agree with you, but I think you may have lost that argument in the footballing context.

When I hear a chant of 'the referee may well be a lovely fellow but he's made some poor decisions today and should reflect deeply on his performance' then I'll be pleasantly surprised.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 11:03:33
Just because someone is crap at their job, it doesn't make them a 'wanker' or a 'cunt' (chant during Oldham game, I think). 

Matter of opinion and mine is the bloke is fucking clueless, and shit at his job. Therefore a fucking wanker.
Opinions differ you continue to support the cunts and back them if you wish I'll still support the team but detest the management with a passion.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 11:07:07
It's pretty obvious that he is a bloody nice guy not a wanker at all, that's half the problem


Title: Re: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 11:15:30
Remember Hereford Utd?

They're now called "Hereford FC"

This was their game last month

https://youtu.be/A9rVygrXqO0

Playing at Bath's second biggest non league side,Larkhall Athletic.

Nice view of Solsbury Hill in the background,mind.

And a rivalry with Forest Green and Chippenham Town could be fun I suppose.

Where is Guiseley?
Steve Jenkins is assistant and Rhys Evans goalkeeper coach for a few Swindon links.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: leftside on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 11:52:48
Matter of opinion and mine is the bloke is fucking clueless, and shit at his job. Therefore a fucking wanker.
Opinions differ you continue to support the cunts and back them if you wish I'll still support the team but detest the management with a passion.
I don't back them, I think they should have been given the boot some games ago. I won't be calling them 'wankers' or 'cunts' though.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Tails on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 11:58:34
Matter of opinion and mine is the bloke is fucking clueless, and shit at his job. Therefore a fucking wanker.
Opinions differ you continue to support the cunts and back them if you wish I'll still support the team but detest the management with a passion.

I bet you're shit at your job. Fucking cunt. I detest you.

Yeah that sounds dumb doesnt it?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: leftside on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 12:06:20
I agree with you, but I think you may have lost that argument in the footballing context.

When I hear a chant of 'the referee may well be a lovely fellow but he's made some poor decisions today and should reflect deeply on his performance' then I'll be pleasantly surprised.
I know it's hypocritical but I'm all in for 'the referee's a wanker' chant and giving oppo players grief (eg Ched Evans) as it seems part of the football panto. I've jut got a bit of sympathy for Williams in that he tries but is just not good enough. I'd rather hear the 'you don't know what you're doing' chant than 'Power sack the cunt'. Maybe I'm too delicate a flower.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 15:34:24
I know it's hypocritical but I'm all in for 'the referee's a wanker' chant and giving oppo players grief (eg Ched Evans) as it seems part of the football panto. I've jut got a bit of sympathy for Williams in that he tries but is just not good enough. I'd rather hear the 'you don't know what you're doing' chant than 'Power sack the cunt'. Maybe I'm too delicate a flower.

Yeah sorry, you're right let's all sing you don't know what you're doing that'll improve performances and won't hurt Williams feelings. Weve been through the mill with this club the whole management are incompetent any other profession with such results woulinend in the sack and other employees would be questioning what's going on. But hey let's not hurt a his feelings but also you say he is right not to walk away. ?????
Opinions, this one is mine Power Williams Embleton clueless wankers!


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 15:52:53
Underperforming in any other environment would lead to the sack? Are you mad? Football management must be just about the shortest term results-at-the-expense-of-anything profession on the planet. If you want to extend Williams' position to any other job, you'd probably be more than a little forgiving of the fact that his direct boss brought in someone above him to do bits of his job, who fucked it up totally and then passed those responsibilities back to him, and that the owner of the company is, at best, restrictive in terms of how you can achieve success using his preferred methodology.

He's out of his depth, he's not a bad human being as a result. If you can't separate those two things I can't really carry on this discussion.


Title: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 15:58:55
^^^^^ this is true, and it would be a lot easier to call for his head if he was an unlikeable twat (McMahon) ^^^^^^

that said, enough is enough.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 16:24:29
Yeah sorry, you're right let's all sing you don't know what you're doing that'll improve performances and won't hurt Williams feelings. Weve been through the mill with this club the whole management are incompetent any other profession with such results woulinend in the sack and other employees would be questioning what's going on. But hey let's not hurt a his feelings but also you say he is right not to walk away. ?????
Opinions, this one is mine Power Williams Embleton clueless wankers!


There can be no sympathy for Luke, if he had any professional integrity he'd put his hand up and walk. He's burned his bridges at this club.... whereas if back in the autumn he'd done the professional thing, he could have slipped back into youth coaching or working with STFC ladies or something more suited to his abilities and I think fans would have repected the decision.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 16:56:00
Underperforming in any other environment would lead to the sack? Are you mad? Football management must be just about the shortest term results-at-the-expense-of-anything profession on the planet. If you want to extend Williams' position to any other job, you'd probably be more than a little forgiving of the fact that his direct boss brought in someone above him to do bits of his job, who fucked it up totally and then passed those responsibilities back to him, and that the owner of the company is, at best, restrictive in terms of how you can achieve success using his preferred methodology.

He's out of his depth, he's not a bad human being as a result. If you can't separate those two things I can't really carry on this discussion.
Who said anything about him being a bad human being ??,  Might be the nicest fellow on the earth,  but how many times does it have to be said HE IS FUCKING USELESS AT HIS JOB.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: pauld on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 17:12:42
Who said anything about him being a bad human being ??,  Might be the nicest fellow on the earth,  but how many times does it have to be said HE IS FUCKING USELESS AT HIS JOB.
Nemo's post was in response to this:
Matter of opinion and mine is the bloke is fucking clueless, and shit at his job. Therefore a fucking wanker.
Opinions differ you continue to support the cunts and back them if you wish I'll still support the team but detest the management with a passion.
and this:
Yeah sorry, you're right let's all sing you don't know what you're doing that'll improve performances and won't hurt Williams feelings. Weve been through the mill with this club the whole management are incompetent any other profession with such results woulinend in the sack and other employees would be questioning what's going on. But hey let's not hurt a his feelings but also you say he is right not to walk away. ?????
Opinions, this one is mine Power Williams Embleton clueless wankers!
Where skiptotheLou did seem to be saying he was a wanker because he's shit at his job. Which, btw, I don't think anyone is arguing with. Just whether or not that makes him a wanker. Which is kind of irrelevant. As you say, he may well be lovely, but he's not doing the job so should either step down or be relieved of the position


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 17:20:08
As useless, or not, he may be in his job, it was Power who twisted his arm into taking it and continues to leave him in place.

Up until recently a few people thought the players were good enough but just badly managed/coached. I think it's fairly obvious now that they are just not up to it, both mentally and ability wise.

If this squad is the best Power can assemble on a supposed top 10 budget, I dread to think what we will end up with next season.

As for any new manager, if indeed we get one, will be in similar mode to who Power has employed before - someone just grateful to be given a chance and keep schtum on how things work at STFC.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: redordead57 on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 18:40:45
Anyone else noticed Caddis has signed for Bury how can they afford his wages on their gates compared to town's just shows what a tightwad Power really is surely he would have walked back into our team with the kids we have .
Not looking forward to Tuesday night ?.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 18:52:14
Not looking forward to Tuesday night ?.

Why not? This season has gone, time to have some fun and crank up the pressure on the management.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 18:55:46
Anyone else noticed Caddis has signed for Bury how can they afford his wages on their gates compared to town's just shows what a tightwad Power really is surely he would have walked back into our team with the kids we have .
Not looking forward to Tuesday night ?.

If you want us to spend like Bury then you can join the rest of the fuckwits on Facebook. It can't and it won't last and look at where that money has got them in the league table

Edit: and of course caddis would walk into our team that isn't up for debate.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 19:40:53
Just watched the 'highlights'. Vigs should have done much better with the first, the second was very poor defending from a feeble near post free kick routine and the third came from a very good free kick to be fair. Not really sure why Nathan Thompson felt the need to goad the fella that missed the penalty, a team player would have looked to galvanise the side and spur them on but the reaction almost looked like they were disappointed the Vale player missed.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: adje on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 19:51:37
Just watched the 'highlights'. Vigs should have done much better with the first, the second was very poor defending from a feeble near post free kick routine and the third came from a very good free kick to be fair. Not really sure why Nathan Thompson felt the need to goad the fella that missed the penalty, a team player would have looked to galvanise the side and spur them on but the reaction almost looked like they were disappointed the Vale player missed.

because he is a great town fan but not so great a captain


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 20:00:04
Just watched the 'highlights'. Vigs should have done much better with the first, the second was very poor defending from a feeble near post free kick routine and the third came from a very good free kick to be fair. Not really sure why Nathan Thompson felt the need to goad the fella that missed the penalty, a team player would have looked to galvanise the side and spur them on but the reaction almost looked like they were disappointed the Vale player missed.


I assumed it was because the penalty was soft, looked like he waited until in the box then fell over. Branco of course gave him the opportunity.

Would be interested to hear from someone unfortunate to be there whether the Ajose sub was the right one. Ordinarily it makes sense to protect a player returning from injury. But yesterday was a must win for us, and Colket also didn't train...Then again I don't think Williams realises we can play with 3 forwards at the same time.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 21:01:29
I assumed it was because the penalty was soft, looked like he waited until in the box then fell over. Branco of course gave him the opportunity.

Would be interested to hear from someone unfortunate to be there whether the Ajose sub was the right one. Ordinarily it makes sense to protect a player returning from injury. But yesterday was a must win for us, and Colket also didn't train...Then again I don't think Williams realises we can play with 3 forwards at the same time.

But it was Eagles who was fouled and Forrester that took the penalty, why give Forrester (who played despite his father dying on Saturday morning) grief?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 21:21:35
yeah i get that (different player), just thought it was a 'shouldn't have cheated thing'. perhaps something else was said off camera.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 21:46:02
yeah i get that (different player), just thought it was a 'shouldn't have cheated thing'. perhaps something else was said off camera.

Maybe, who knows what goes on the field I guess.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 22:25:22
I know it's hypocritical but I'm all in for 'the referee's a wanker' chant and giving oppo players grief (eg Ched Evans) as it seems part of the football panto. I've jut got a bit of sympathy for Williams in that he tries but is just not good enough. I'd rather hear the 'you don't know what you're doing' chant than 'Power sack the cunt'. Maybe I'm too delicate a flower.

It is very hypocritical! How do you know the ref isn't a bloody nice bloke outside of football? I have sympathy for Williams, because he thinks he can do a job well above his ability. I have never chanted during a game that so and so is a cunt or should be sacked i vent my frustration on here.  The issue is in football you cant defend the indefensible, and that goes for Power Williams and Embleton.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: donkey on Sunday, March 12, 2017, 23:22:37
I assumed it was because the penalty was soft, looked like he waited until in the box then fell over. Branco of course gave him the opportunity.

Would be interested to hear from someone unfortunate to be there whether the Ajose sub was the right one. Ordinarily it makes sense to protect a player returning from injury. But yesterday was a must win for us, and Colket also didn't train...Then again I don't think Williams realises we can play with 3 forwards at the same time.

Ajose didn't have a good game, was largely ineffectual. Given the injury too, I thought the sub was sensible. I was in a minority judging by the reaction of the crowd, though!


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: tans on Monday, March 13, 2017, 07:03:13
But it was Eagles who was fouled and Forrester that took the penalty, why give Forrester (who played despite his father dying on Saturday morning) grief?

I cant get my head around Thompsons reaction, seems a bit twattish to me.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, March 13, 2017, 07:13:43
Anyone else noticed Caddis has signed for Bury how can they afford his wages on their gates compared to town's

They can't.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 13, 2017, 07:19:22
Quote from: donkey
Ajose didn't have a good game, was largely ineffectual. Given the injury too, I thought the sub was sensible. I was in a minority judging by the reaction of the crowd, though!

thanks. guess people just think he's someone who even when he does nothing but can still score a goal..

suspect it made no difference either way.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Sir Cliff Pipehard on Monday, March 13, 2017, 09:04:26
I get the bovine malevolence. Let's face it, if you know you're off to the slaughter house, why not get angry?

I'm sure the eagle reference is poetic licence.... or maybe a Corbyn challenger, or if more than one the fella who scored against us today.

It's important to have positive images to distract you from the car crash at the CG.

Or it could have been Roger Eagle,DJ,promoter,and all round Liverpool cultural icon,probably best known for managing Eric's nightclub at the height of its punk/new wave infamy,hovering  overhead  in a Microlight?

Or perhaps not..

Fuck me,this season's shit ain't it?


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, March 13, 2017, 09:34:57
Or it could have been Roger Eagle,DJ,promoter,and all round Liverpool cultural icon,probably best known for managing Eric's nightclub at the height of its punk/new wave infamy,hovering  overhead  in a Microlight?

Or perhaps not..

Fuck me,this season's shit ain't it?

Let's not forget that the TEF is more about bollocks than football....this season has already gone as far as I'm concerned.

Ist class cricket in the Parks starting the 28th March. Present day Toffs v Toffs already at a county. That'll accelerate the process of deleting from the memory, this season's horror show.

Then we'll have the fun of the Power apologists, admitedly a dwindling band, telling us not to worry as we haven't started to replace the 20 players leaving until the last week of July, and the 1st man coming in will be Sitric O'Sanassa from Corkadoragha.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, March 13, 2017, 09:41:28
I cant get my head around Thompsons reaction, seems a bit twattish to me.
Never know what gets said on the pitch i suppose.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Tails on Monday, March 13, 2017, 11:05:07
Anyone else noticed Caddis has signed for Bury how can they afford his wages on their gates compared to town's just shows what a tightwad Power really is surely he would have walked back into our team with the kids we have .
Not looking forward to Tuesday night ?.

High interest loans and lots of them.

The shit will hit the fan for them soon enough


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Power to people on Monday, March 13, 2017, 12:49:38
If Williams was as good a coach as has been made out then he would have quit by now and moved elsewhere into a coaching role and doubled his salary, he hasn't and probably cant.

He wont walk as he will want the pay off, Power seems unwilling to sack him as he would have to pay him up 3.5 years its seems an odd situation where you have the chairman / owner who puts his faith ? in a manager that clearly is not good enough and has such an awful record

The pressure needs to be cranked up Tues night unfortunately with Williams we are only going 1 way and that's towards the basement 


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, March 13, 2017, 13:04:08
High interest loans and lots of them.

The shit will hit the fan for them soon enough
Million pound loans at a rate if 138% per annum apparently.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2014/nov/12/bury-high-interest-loans-shadow-recovery


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, March 13, 2017, 13:15:05
He wont walk as he will want the pay off, Power seems unwilling to sack him as he would have to pay him up 3.5 years
We don't actually know this but people keep quoting it as fact on the basis of the "5 year contract" quote. But then Pardew had an 8 year contract that turned out to be actually just a rolling 1 year contract. I'd imagine Power's done similar so as to cap any payout, but publicly call it a 5 year deal to publicly express his confidence in his manager and (although this sounds laughable now, he was still apparently well thought of when the contract was announced) either scare off any other club wanting to come in and poach him or at least try to ensure they'd come prepared to offer decent compensation for his contract. I think it's pride, not money, that keeps him here, on both sides of the bargain.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: redordead57 on Monday, March 13, 2017, 16:38:47
High interest loans and lots of them.

The shit will hit the fan for them soon enough
Yeah but at least they are buying experienced players not bits of kids , & they are taking a gamble town aren't !! .


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Tails on Monday, March 13, 2017, 16:43:14
When the Shakers are shaking their buckets again we'll see if it was worth it.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, March 13, 2017, 17:30:10
When the Shakers are shaking their buckets again we'll see if it was worth it.

Not pissing money away is the ONLY silver lining for this dogshit season.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, March 13, 2017, 18:19:30
Just love the final few sentences...but sounds a tad over-optimistic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39256169


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, March 13, 2017, 18:26:01
Just love the final few sentences...but sounds a tad over-optimistic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39256169

Has to say it but...laughable...


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, March 13, 2017, 18:28:11
Just love the final few sentences...but sounds a tad over-optimistic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39256169

Nicky has been a decent player for us in all his spells, so I'm not going to criticise him for supporting Luke.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, March 13, 2017, 19:05:17
Not pissing money away is the ONLY silver lining for this dogshit season.
You've pissed enough away in the County  :pint: :pint:


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, March 13, 2017, 20:45:03
Yeah but at least they are buying experienced players not bits of kids , & they are taking a gamble town aren't !! .

Everything everyone has said about Bury seems to be going straight over your head   ::)


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: leftside on Monday, March 13, 2017, 20:56:26
We don't actually know this but people keep quoting it as fact on the basis of the "5 year contract" quote. But then Pardew had an 8 year contract that turned out to be actually just a rolling 1 year contract. I'd imagine Power's done similar so as to cap any payout, but publicly call it a 5 year deal to publicly express his confidence in his manager and (although this sounds laughable now, he was still apparently well thought of when the contract was announced) either scare off any other club wanting to come in and poach him or at least try to ensure they'd come prepared to offer decent compensation for his contract. I think it's pride, not money, that keeps him here, on both sides of the bargain.
I think in a fairly recent interview, Williams said that the 5 year deal includes his time as a coach pre Head Coach announcement. Apologies if I've misunderstood this.

Like you say, it's pretty much down to pride. After the recent 'not a quitter' comments, he won't go until we're officially down.


Title: Re: Valiants v Town match day thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, March 13, 2017, 23:32:44
Nicky has been a decent player for us in all his spells, so I'm not going to criticise him for supporting Luke.
I'd go further than that, I think his comments reflect well on Ajose, fair play to him. Does nothing to change my opinion of Williams, tbf, but put Ajose up a notch or two. I'm sure he'll sleep more soundly knowing that :)