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Title: Coventry
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 23, 2017, 21:33:24
Anyone going?

I'm on the 11:03 out of Euston. Might have to make an effort to go to the casino at the Ricoh, owt else to do there?


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, February 23, 2017, 21:34:35
There's a fucking massive Tesco there.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 23, 2017, 21:44:20
The 2-Tone Trail

 http://openplaques.org/organisations/2_tone_trail


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, February 23, 2017, 21:59:16
I'm going


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Talk Talk on Thursday, February 23, 2017, 23:01:25
Nope. I'm busy emptying my cats out.

http://www.wikihow.com/Express-a-Cat's-Anal-Glands (http://www.wikihow.com/Express-a-Cat's-Anal-Glands)


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Ardiles on Friday, February 24, 2017, 08:42:51
Nope. I'm busy emptying my cats out.

http://www.wikihow.com/Express-a-Cat's-Anal-Glands (http://www.wikihow.com/Express-a-Cat's-Anal-Glands)

...and we have a winner!

Take a bow.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, February 24, 2017, 09:16:52
Nope. I'm busy emptying my cats out.

http://www.wikihow.com/Express-a-Cat's-Anal-Glands (http://www.wikihow.com/Express-a-Cat's-Anal-Glands)

I've actually done that to one of my cats before. It's a fun and not at all smelly job.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, February 24, 2017, 09:22:18
I saw we've sold out. I guess they only gave us 300 tickets or something?


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, February 24, 2017, 09:25:18
I had a dream we won this game 2-1. Get your money on, folks!


Title: Coventry
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 24, 2017, 09:29:44
we've sold out the 500/600 allocation sent to the club.

loads of seats still available on the day, note it's cash only..


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 24, 2017, 09:57:05
Coventry has been a happy hunting ground for us since the early 60's.

Home and away we have 5 wins and 4 draws against them in the last 9 meetings.

Home and away since 1965 we have had 8 wins, 6 draws and only 2 defeats in 16 games.

Away at Coventry we have not lost there since 1964, 6 games 3 wins and 3 draws.

I enjoyed the Ricoh when we played them last season, too nice a ground for this league anyway and most of their fans seemed quite friendly too. They may have got their minds set on a Wembley appearance in a month vs Pox or Luton, they have sold 20,000 tickets already and there is a bit of a buzz around the city at the moment.

Having a read on their forum, for a team rock bottom of the league and 5 points behind us they are extremely confident they will beat us.

Their form in the league in the last 7 games has been identical to ours with 1 win 1 draw and 5 defeats. Over those 7 games they have scored 5 and conceded 12 whereas we have scored 4 and conceded 8.

Recent history is on our side for tomorrow at least but I think it will be a 0-0.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: tans on Friday, February 24, 2017, 10:13:30
I think we will lose and am clinging to the hope LW will eventually get sacked


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 24, 2017, 10:36:29
sorry to be the boring one, there is parking next to the ground iirc?


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 24, 2017, 11:48:34
I'm surprised there isn't a joint anti owner protest tomorrow. 

I'd like Cov to join us in Div 4 next season, so a draw would at least keep them below us in the battle for 24th.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, February 24, 2017, 12:57:55
I'm surprised there isn't a joint anti owner protest tomorrow. 

Flipside, our "fans" who desperately "want their Swindon back" could do with looking at Cov and thinking about where we might be a) without Power coming in and removing Jed and b) what can happen if they get their wish and he goes....


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 24, 2017, 13:29:48
It depends on whether people believe that the club will continue to fester under Power's ownership or there will be some miraculous volte face regarding his way of running things.

Yes, any new owner may not be an upgrade on Power BUT they might be. As things stand I reckon we're fucked - and that doesn't just refer to getting relegated this season.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: RobertT on Friday, February 24, 2017, 14:31:30
Flipside, our "fans" who desperately "want their Swindon back" could do with looking at Cov and thinking about where we might be a) without Power coming in and removing Jed and b) what can happen if they get their wish and he goes....

That's where I was going to go.  The Coventry fans have a much greater case for bemoaning their owners who have a sole intent on pushing judicial reviews against anyone they can find to try and extract some value from their investment in the club - which they have now stopped completely - so no more loans to the football business, they are very much a cutting cloth to fit club now while this goes on.  If you go back before they made it to Wembley in the pointless thingy, all the talk was about terminal decline and they can't engage in renewing their rent deal beyond next season at the Ricoh because their owner is dragging the Wasps purchase of the ground through the courts!  So they could easily get relegated, reduce revenue, reduce budget for players and have no ground to play at in a year from now.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 24, 2017, 14:38:53
  So they could easily get relegated, reduce revenue, reduce budget for players and have no ground to play at in a year from now.

We are a ground better off than the! Yes! Winner!
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They've already had a year in Northampton, Sisu are absolute ****. Our club is feels like currently dying, but they are dancing with the Reaper.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Chrystovski on Friday, February 24, 2017, 15:05:41
Flipside, our "fans" who desperately "want their Swindon back" could do with looking at Cov and thinking about where we might be a) without Power coming in and removing Jed and b) what can happen if they get their wish and he goes....

Good point tbf, we could end up with an owner who sells all of our best players, replaces them with kids, hires an inexperienced manager, we have a huge slump in league position and then to rub salt in the wounds the chairman admits he is only here to make a profit. That would be terrible.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 24, 2017, 15:08:43
That's where I was going to go.  The Coventry fans have a much greater case for bemoaning their owners who have a sole intent on pushing judicial reviews against anyone they can find to try and extract some value from their investment in the club - which they have now stopped completely - so no more loans to the football business, they are very much a cutting cloth to fit club now while this goes on.  If you go back before they made it to Wembley in the pointless thingy, all the talk was about terminal decline and they can't engage in renewing their rent deal beyond next season at the Ricoh because their owner is dragging the Wasps purchase of the ground through the courts!  So they could easily get relegated, reduce revenue, reduce budget for players and have no ground to play at in a year from now.

Which is why I want them in Div 4 next season.... only 2 go down, so it may be possible to find a couple of clubs more poorly run than ours, and Cov has potential.  You'd have thought Blackpool too, but they've done OK so far. Oystons lost big time in the Court yesterday, so there could be further fall out for them next season.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 24, 2017, 15:28:24
Good point tbf, we could end up with an owner who sells all of our best players, replaces them with kids, hires an inexperienced manager, we have a huge slump in league position and then to rub salt in the wounds the chairman admits he is only here to make a profit. That would be terrible.
We could have Jed, Munto finance, SISU, Agombar, Diego Lemos, Peter Pannu, Touzar etc etc. That would *genuinely* be terrible. No great fan of Power's and as fed up of his "model" as anyone but as I keep saying, be very very careful what you wish for. Especially if you find yourself uttering the words "Things can't get any worse". Yes they can. They pretty much always can.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 24, 2017, 15:41:39
We could have Jed, Munto finance, SISU, Agombar, Diego Lemos, Peter Pannu, Touzar etc etc. That would *genuinely* be terrible. No great fan of Power's and as fed up of his "model" as anyone but as I keep saying, be very very careful what you wish for. Especially if you find yourself uttering the words "Things can't get any worse". Yes they can. They pretty much always can.
I agree with all of that. The grass is not always greener despite what some of our fans may think.


Title: Coventry
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 24, 2017, 15:47:26
But it might be greener.

Best not to jump over the fence unless you can see what's on the other side - unless you have to because the field is on fire and in danger of dragging you into the abyss of non league football.

which is not yet the case


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 24, 2017, 15:55:34
But it might be greener.

Best not to jump over the fence unless you can see what's on the other side - unless you have to because the field is on fire and in danger of dragging you into the abyss of non league football.
Leaving aside the horrible mixed metaphor, it's all about risk vs possible/probable reward. The number of shysters sniffing around clubs with nefarious intent and/or incompetents greatly outweighs the number of genuine benefactors capable of delivering on their promises. And we have little to offer the latter. Meaning we are substantially more likely to end up with yet more of the former. In terms of likely outcomes (as opposed to some bloke on Facebook confusing "What I would like" with "What is actually plausible") the potential reward is likely to be small, the risks don't bear thinking about.


Title: Coventry
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 24, 2017, 15:59:42
it depends on what happens next. going to non league and continuing with the model would be as bad as taking a risk and ending up with a shyster that kills us in a different way.

to me anyway, obviously not to everyone.

hopefully it's obvious I don't feel now is the time to do that, well, not without a credible non shyster alternative in place


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 24, 2017, 16:03:58
The problem with shysters is that nobody knows any new owner is one until it's too late.

Bit like right now.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, February 24, 2017, 16:30:43
I'm sure if someone came along with a genuine offer and a sound business plan, he'd be gone in a flash anyway.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 24, 2017, 16:39:50
I'm sure if someone came along with a genuine offer and a sound business plan, he'd be gone in a flash anyway.
Definately this.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, February 24, 2017, 16:44:02
it's all about risk vs possible/probable reward. The number of shysters sniffing around clubs with nefarious intent and/or incompetents greatly outweighs the number of genuine benefactors capable of delivering on their promises. And we have little to offer the latter.

Despite what many seem to think we don't have a great deal to attract the former either, as Jed discovered when he actually saw the books?


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, February 24, 2017, 22:26:57
Leaving aside the horrible mixed metaphor, it's all about risk vs possible/probable reward. The number of shysters sniffing around clubs with nefarious intent and/or incompetents greatly outweighs the number of genuine benefactors capable of delivering on their promises. And we have little to offer the latter. Meaning we are substantially more likely to end up with yet more of the former. In terms of likely outcomes (as opposed to some bloke on Facebook confusing "What I would like" with "What is actually plausible") the potential reward is likely to be small, the risks don't bear thinking about.

That's the thing about turning the club system into a big fuck off capitalist marketplace isn't it? We start talking about fan attitudes in the same way. Can I invest my current right to protest against it being shit into a bond wrapped up with protest futures which might become less valuable hence saving me some fan embarrassment? Or something.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, February 25, 2017, 07:49:45
We are in a bit of a catch-22 situation.

I think most of the Power out brigade just think it can't be any worse if he goes, whilst there are some who look at clubs like Coventry & rightly point out that actually it could.

However the model that Power is using to run the club has (over the last couple of seasons) proved to be flawed and needs to be changed. However he doesn't appear to be willing to do this. Without further investment, which Power in his own words has said he doesn't want, we are stuck with it.

So if Power goes do we get a Fitton or a Jed as replacement.
Power stays, the model continues to fail & we crash into League 2 and maybe beyond, or he's proved to be right & we can be competitive in League 1 and possibly higher.

Fuck me, isn't Football supposed to be fun


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: pauld on Saturday, February 25, 2017, 08:46:47
That's the thing about turning the club system into a big fuck off capitalist marketplace isn't it? We start talking about fan attitudes in the same way. Can I invest my current right to protest against it being shit into a bond wrapped up with protest futures which might become less valuable hence saving me some fan embarrassment? Or something.
Not sure where you got any of that from. I was talking about the probability of getting a good owner vs a bad one if Power were to up sticks now.


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, February 25, 2017, 09:44:17
So Donald Trump is better than Kim Jong-Un, best not protest...

Be careful for what you wish for, sure, but if it suited Power to sell to Jed, does anyone here think he'd hold back.

There may be no new owners queuing up but there are plausible managers available to do a job

Power concentrates absolute power in himself leaving a Director of Football who is awol and a manager who has to say he supports whatever Power has in mind even though he openly admits he doesn't know what it is

Power alone is responsible for Williams being unsackable and there damn well should be protests - after the 3 points are secured, of course.  


Title: Re: Coventry
Post by: REDBUCK on Saturday, February 25, 2017, 10:57:31
So are you going to rustle one up then?