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So Ince has been cleared at court today. Hopefully he'll be straight back in the side on Saturday...

Who will Williams drop? Can't be Jones with Branco suspended.

just hoping colkett and gladwin aren't must plays/ financially disadvantage us so much that if they don't play we are knackered.

feruz we can discard barring injuries.

but if we only have the option to pick between Jones and ince it'll be ridiculous

it can be. Thompson and thingy at conroy, brophy and boo fb, Thomas if he insists at back 3.

Wouldn't help us even if it were Paul Ince.

He was rubbish for us anyway

He was found 'not guilty' which is technically not the same as 'innocent'.

Maybe not in your mind, but technically it is.

Ha I was going to say this, but yeah.. In terms of legality/morality not the same at all, in terms of him playing for us in the future, pretty much an irrelevant distinction.

Fucking hell. In the eyes of the law he's innocent. If you're not guilty of something, you must therefore be innocent.

Effectively, this. He's "not guilty", which the court doesn't distinguish from innocent. Some rather odd implications from usually liberal-minded posters here.

I think I'm right in saying that in Scottish law, they do have a separate 'unproven' verdict or something which means they probably did it but not beyond reasonable doubt. Not relevant, just a vague memory of a law course I once did.

What do you think happened in this case? That he got off on a technicality? I haven't followed the detail.

they failed to establish identity, and the defence expert witness was able to put doubt on validity of victims blood on ince clothes.

police dropped a bollock by trying to get CCTV too late, it had been erased.

he's not guilty, end of..

This reminds me. I have jury service on 6th March.

Should be fun. Or not, as some have said.

No idea, I haven't heard all the evidence. Just commenting on the innocent vs not guilty debate

You're innocent until proven guilty, therefore a not guilty verdict is practically the same as calling it an innocent verdict

Blah blah blah blah... he's not guilty.

I think in Scottish law, "Not Proven" means the accused could be retried later, presumably in the light of further evidence. 

Being found 'not guilty' does not prove the person to be 'innocent'.

If the judge or jury are not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt, then they must deliver a verdict of not guilty. This does not mean that the defendant is innocent. It means only that the prosecution did not convince the judge or jury beyond a reasonable doubt.

Ince may or may not therefore be innocent of the alleged offence but the court failed to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he was guilty.

Good luck with your upcoming jury service Sippo!  :)

Not guilty or innocent, who gives a fuck if it means he can start adding a bit of bollocks to our eunuchy midfield.

If our fearless leader decides to play him of course

Careful, don't want to unsettle the balance of the side...

...I would suggest Williams is careful when he tells him he's not playing - Hide all the Jack Daniels bottles first!  ;D

That was what I was getting at. Nicely put sir!   :nod: 

Whatever...

If he gets picked he better not bottle it!

Yep, all the players deserve the starting spot so dont want to disrupt it.

I can't believe more people haven't pointed out the true disgrace in the situation which is having a statement on a sodding Wednesday.

INCE OUT!

Is Rohan in any way related to Paul  :hmmm:

yes, yes he is.

Ince out, Ince out, shake it all about.

Did nice "add bollocks" in the game he played? Genuine question I didn't see it

No idea if his bollocks are 'nice' or not?

I would say so.
Only one game, but looks better than the existing options for that position.

Just 2 misplaced letters and I had to read that a few times before having any idea what you're on about.