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Drinking Cerveza in Mexico and figured we have a game tomorrow so never started a match day thread before.

We'll almost certainly lose.

It's against TEF tradition to start a mdt the day before a game, but given how this season has gone, why not?

Viva Mehico!

If this doesn't work, perhaps we can try a post-matchday thread on Sunday?

Lots - nil :-(

perhaps you'll have unleashed bad luck on the bad season, making a good result.

just the type of game we'll win, sticking a stick plaster over the sticky plaster buying Williams more time... then lose against Oldham and Coventry..

Great idea, lets increase the misery by starting the match day thread a day early...

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I read this report of how Burnley managed to get something from the Chelsea game and thought about what a great analysis it was.

It's also the exact opposite of what Swindon have done all season; stuck to "The Swindon way" even when other teams know exactly how to counter it. This is where a good coach is not a good manager: A good manager will study the opposition, work out weaknesses, deploy players to beat those weaknesses and adjust mid game as necessary. How many times this season have we been undone by teams knowing how to play against us from the start, or changing something mid game to undo our advantage?
Our only recent success came against Bolton, a team who haven't played against us in recent seasons. The rest of the division know how to beat "The Swindon way" and we change nothing; it's easy for them.

So, if Northampton know how to beat us from the start, it'll be 3-0 or so. If they have to change mid game, it'll be  1-0 or 2-1.

Just love all the confidence  :badmood: :badmood:.

Well I'll add to the anti-curse by predicting that the best-ever title for an mtd thread has to be worth at least an away goal.

Heady times.

I just hope we do a goal. Maybe do two. And do a win too.

Come on football!

Give us a reason to be confident...

You have to go back to 55/56 to find the last time Cobblers did a double over us in Div 3.  That season is widely regarded as a benchmark for shitness, when we finished 24th for the first time..... the Board decided to be in charge of recruitment, not appoint a manager, and leave it to the trainers/coaches to work on game management etc. Sound familiar  :hmmm:

No, I'm not convincing myself either.   

55/56 was abject but we still managed to get to then 4th round of the cup and Maurice Owen got 13 and Bob Edwards 11, the sort of numbers our front men can only dream about.

Interestingly on being re-elected the Board kept the same policy for 56/57, with no discernible improvement, and so appointed Bert Head as manager part way through the season.  The rest is history.

It was 2:27 am GMT so technically not early!

We are so earth shatteringly shit so anything is worth a try surely?

You're behind us not ahead. It will be Tuesday here before you go to bed tonight.

Ah fuck it's Monday today isn't it? Haha, what a 'tard I am!

Feel free to delete this Fred!

No keep it. A retarded jumpstart to the MTD may be just what the team needs.

Hint for you: tomorrow is Valentine's Day.  ;)

Heading along to this as it's just down the road for me... Why I don't know! Any chance of Alan McCormack style heroics?  :no:

 Get's my approval  :nod:  anything is worth a try.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. I think we'll have a 69/69 style performance, that was a cold Tuesday night.

3-1 victory.

 BTW in 68/69 we won 6-2.  :)

I think I'd rather watch Swindon than Burnley tbh.

That may be an exaggeration, but playing every game not to lose just to stay in the holy PL is a big nah from me, even if you get the odd unexpected result.

We are going to lose though, obviously.

Bastards, had me thinking it was Tuesday and we were playing tonight.

3-0 resounding victory.

|||||Massive exageration.........\We play boring sideways and back football at a snailspace.Do you ever go and watch it?

Which was more boring, "3 up front" Paul Hart, or "we dominated the game" Luke Williams....

Close call.

I genuinely couldn't call it between the 2, both rubbish unfortunately.

Watching Oxford dick us with no fight......not enjoyable in the least.Come on anyone who has been slightly entertained this season must have very boring lives.Hart was shit but so is this crap we've been watching since the spurs youth team days.

You're on the piss in Mexico,having such a good time you don't know what day it is?
You don't sound like a 'tard to me,mate  :)
Have a good one!

3-0 defeat,and more bullshit excuses

Last minute goal and Williams runs on the pitch over to the away fans celebrating like a mad Italian wearing a combat jacket and scarf...Legend.

So the Ince trial likely to last until Wednesday. Won't see him tomorrow then

For the other thread


If I read that right, IF he's guilty he's going down?

We'll lose

2:0 victory with us getting the rub of the green for once and cobblers robbed for both goals.

I'm going....

Swindon til I die....

😁

Have they rebuilt that pub then?  ???

Because the Cobblers built a ground near to your home? Just a thought.

Kandy Koooooooorn...

Yes. All the time.

Sorry just thought I'd answer your question.

It's officially Tuesday in Blighty so I declare this utter abortion of a match day Fred open!

Yep, may be detained at Her Majesty's pleasure.  We might be down to 6 loanees.  The disturbing part of this was that he tried to run away and was tackled by a police officer.  I would hope that a professional  footballer playing for the Town was capable of running fast enough to get away from a constable possibly partial to heaps of Yorkshire pud, fish and chips, and the odd biryani. 

Not sure about Feruz, will probably be using Uber a lot for a while.

Hoping for a 2-0 win for Swindon

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They've beaten Coventry and Chesterfield recently and score a reasonable amount of goals, so are doing what they should be doing to beat the drop and everything we're not doing.

I'm ever the optimist but can only see another defeat. 1-3.

Without stating the obvious, this is a must win game.

If we loose then this must be Luke Warm's last game.

We've got to win. 3-2 to the Town. F*ck knows who will score but I don't care as long as we win. COYR

er, we can win this one, er, yeah, or maybe get a draw anyway.

coyr

Defeat. Nothing,s changed just the same puerile shite being spouted.

Watching Pox and Rivers dick us twice each with no fight...

All of the other times it's been this bad, I've found a glimmer of hope. This time I just feel resigned to the inevitable.

As inevitable as it comes.

Smith brace in a 3-0 drubbing.

FFS I'd forgotten Mighty Mike had gone there   :suicide:

I'd just noted that Revell hadn't played since Jan, so hoped he might be injured. Didn't want to put the mockers on by saying so though.

We will lose

I will go home disappointed that we haven't put up a fight

I still find the Smith situation baffling, would like to know the real reasons why he left.
Left to move up 'north' to Portsmouth to spend more time with his family.

Always thought he was a half decent League 1 striker, don't think he is destined for higher than our level but we could of done with a player like him this, this season.

Who knows what goes on at football clubs. Our club baffles the fuck out of me.

At one point Mighty Mike was off to Blades for a decent wedge....that fell through, did he throw his toys out of the pram  :hmmm:

Back on topic 0 for us..............2 or 3 min for Northampton and more 'meh' from me at FT.

Sorry lads, can't see anything other than a defeat,  by how many is debatable.   Would love to see us get something out of this game,  but it ain't gonna happen.  Thank fuck it looks as if Revell won't be playing,  he would just rub salt in the wound.

Think we need a chant along the Dad's Army theme for Power, as he must think the fans are all fucking idiots after his statement and utter waffle on Talksport.

As for tonight, 2-0 defeat. Northampton were 19/20 on Bet365, so taken a bit of that.

Why is Power starting to do press releases and national radio interviews all of a sudden? I think he's panicking and can see this being Williams last game if we lose again.

I don't currently see any other result. 3-1 them.

Pre match excitement in The Moon on the Square.

The locals have suffered here over the years.
A Great Fire, the Black Death and the Plague.

Tonight they will have to contend with a relatively harmless virus known as The Swindon Way.

Sporadic outbreaks have been reported across the country over the last couple of years, but in the main have been easily contained with some basic precautions.

Prolonged exposure can lead to increasing levels of anger & frustration.
These soon fade, but are replaced by a sense of futility & resignation.

A Swiss lab will soon be asking victims to contribute fund's for further research into the condition.
However it is widely thought that a cure will not be available for the foreseeable future.

Can only hope some enterprising person can come up with the antidote and eradicate the virus.

I'm already showing symptoms of lethargy and general meh-ness - think it's terminal.

because even he could see the lack of clarity on Sherwood was nonsense. not that it's improved much..

certainly wasn't a charm offensive to promote season ticket sales :)

I'll go for a 2-1 win. No idea why, more blind hope than judgement.

we can win this, we really can. genuinely.

Well of course we can. The question is whether we will?

OK. we will get at least a draw. that's as confident as I'm going

Hope someone will score a goal for us soon but I can`t see it happening tonight so 2 or possibly 3 - 0 - my predicting skills have been shot this season as I have remained ever optimistic - unfortunately I seem to have gone through that particular barrier only 15 more games of torture to go  :frustr:

Just looked at roll up tickets...

£24 quid!?!?  Up there with us on the rip off stakes...

Looking at £45 with beer and grub.... Reckon I'll give it a miss!

fair weather supporter :)

That is pretty high. Not that we're any better.

£20 for a ticket in the away end at Reading v Brentford tonight.

Safely in the Malt Shovel enjoying the beer. Need a few before I watch is lose again.

Putting the commercial bollocks that is St Valentine's Day to one side.

Tonight is a rare opportunity to cancel that evening out, tune into BBC or player and make wild passionate love as Town perform in the background.

The team can't fail to pick up on all of that positive energy as the collective juddering climax inspires Nicky to slot in the winner from a tight angle.

Don't have access to player or radio commentary then not a problem, just put on some Cocteau Twins, dim the lights and away you go.

You can see the headline tomorrow "Town fail to score in Valentine's Day Massacre"

I think using the term "wobblers" isn't helpful.  We need to firm in possession, be decisive in the final third, and finish clinically.  We can't continue to shoot high and wide.

Tuesday nights tend to throw up strange results. It's a bit straw clutchy but I'll cling onto it.

4-1 defeat thompson ,branco,vigs redcarded.

Can't believe I'm saying this... but going by the comments from Saturday's defeat about no concerted efforts towards goal from us until the 90th minute, I wouldn't mind seeing Rodgers in the starting line up  :suicide:

Yes he's feckless and lazy, but you can't say Gladwin/Colkett/Kasim have been any better in the last couple of matches. At least Rodgers can sometimes pick out a good long ball forward every now and then, and with Ajose and/or Hylton up top to run on to stuff...who knows, we could open up a chance or two.

I'm off for a lie down.

Obika and Ajose to start and fancy 1 of them to get our goal in a wildly optimistic forecast of 1-1 rewarding 346 hardy Town fans

Tim Sherwood has registered as a player

A Tansmedia exclusive?

Well, presumably he had drunk the bottle of Jack Daniels that he allegedly smashed over the bouncer's head. He also allegedly slipped after slam dunking the bottle on the bouncer and fell over as he was trying to escape.

I believe that here was talk of one of the loans possibly being made permanent after the result of one of the trials. I assume that was the GBH one rather than the driving whilst disqualified one.

Don't think I particularly want us to sign another gangsta.

Consider myself a jinx...but they lose when I don't go...

We'll win 2-0 tonight and paper over the cracks

We're gonna win.

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4 centre halves??

I think Conroy played both in defence and midfield for Aldershot, expect a holding role in front of the back three. 

Oh FFS, he better not be playing Thompson there again.

As Crozzer says - Conroy makes more sense to me, re-instating the Branco/Jones partnership, keeping NT at RB.

The fact that Smith doesn't make the bench, but Rodgers and Thomas do makes me sick.

Hence, my comment regarding Conroy in midfield.

Sorry, yeah missed that and updated my post to reflect.

Which option do you think our tactical geniuses will have gone for? :D

I could be all wet and Thompson is in midfield, all conjecture, but apparently some games in midfield for the Shots.

Thompson playing behind the strikers, Gladwin holding.

Smith might be playing on Saturday after the vote of confidence on Wednesday.  All the "tools" need to perform on St Valentine's Day.

Conroy played holding mid few times for Aldershot. See they have Michael Smith up front - worried.

 I see Luke Williams is out then  :beers:  ....oh.

 

Our Smith is better than their Smith, '.....oh wait a minute, he isn't in the matchday squad.

For five seconds or so I even thought about going tonight then reality kicked in. Fair play to anyone who makes the trip so it will be talking back to the radio commentary as usual.

Having seen Williams comments and now the team, Kasim on the bench is no surprise, but no Hylton is, not sure what the guy has to do to be in the squad. Then again as we usually only make one substitution per match (it obviously goes against the grain to make use of the three players allowed in Williams eyes) that is not unexpected as most of the subs will get a pre-match/half-time warm up and that will be all.

I will be listening in hope as you never can tell.

Come on you Wobblers!  I'm going for 0-0 with our battalion of Centre Halves keeping them at bay..

Looking at that bench I'm not sure I'd bring one on let alone 3

What does Hylton need to do...Score a fookin goal,my gran is more dangerous than him and she's been dead 10 years.

 The fact that no-one has a clue how we're lining up....may just throw the opposition  ;)

Smith in for ince, kasim for colkett, Thomas dropped from squad

Conroy in midfield. crozzer knew. crozzer knew..

oldum wining

pen ffs

saved

yeeeesss, our season turns here. nice one vigs

Take a look at @WessexWorld's Tweet: https://twitter.com/WessexWorld/status/831593181997367296?s=09

Was Vigs meant to be banned tonight if the Oxford red hadn't been overturned?

:toocool:

We had a shot yet.

not according to bet 365

Northampton 7 (2) : Swindon 0 (0).   Total, (On Target)

We are winning 4: 1 on giving away fouls.

nor the radio

good video of the save that. yes he'd have been banned tonight (2 games bury and this)

dabo having a mare by the sound of it

Is dabo doing a toffollo & furlong. Starts well and ends up crap but hexappears to have condensed the time considerably.

It's The Swindon Way.

Shrews 1 up

shoot in a minute we're gonna shoot in a minute :sherlock:

8:19pm
Sorry for the lack of updates in the last five minutes but that just explains how bad this game is

Adver

 :banana: :banana: :banana: yay a shot

Dabo is going to get sent off soon.

On the pitch!!

Yesssss. Half time 0-0. OK the radio used terms like "sitting duck", "delaying the inevitable", "no threat" and "losing the midfield"

BUT

we are still in it. And you generally have a spell in a match. We can do this. We can.

Cant believe we are losing the midfield, we are usually so dominant!

Are we playing with any forwards? BBC text hasn't shown Ajose or Obika yet?

A good half time talk needed, doh,........

The players wont cope with the reality of going in at half time goalless

How long after half time will we hold out? I'll go 3 minutes

Late out for second half, early goal down, game over that's how it goes isn't it

Generous.

Maybe we can snatch and grab a 0-1.

 :please:

Merlin conjuring the dragon's breath might be the only way we come away with anything from this one.

The lack of goals in this team is starting to feel like the Quinn relegation team.

We should be losing. We aren't. We could do this. Its our day. This is where the turnaround starts.

Maybe we will get a dodgy penalty and win it 1-0

Look you toss faces, project positive isn't going to work if you keep on putting doses of reality in there.

We will stay up.
We will score in the 53rd minute, a winner.

For 15 minutes it looked like a case of how many, after that we coped ok.

We don't look like scoring (the one shot on target led to ironic cheers), but you just feel we will cock up somehow & let one in

😂

At 5094
423 town fans

Fair play to them

If we are quoting ourselves:

Well, hope this is fan wind up BS:

Bryan Wills ‏@willb69 10s10 seconds ago
Told that Hylton has stormed off in taxi in full kit having been dropped. Anyone confirm or deny?

'Too many aimless balls from Northampton'

This one's ours for the taking.

Full kit wanker??

We went close. Branco. Ajose. Blocked on line.

Its coming, its coming

An often used Valentines phrase

taxi for Hylton

Branco suspended (10 yellow cards totting up)

Take a look at @cirendave's Tweet: https://twitter.com/cirendave/status/831609659584806917?s=09

Can they do that during a game

Some will be pleased,but not me

You post like its a bad thing!

Thanks.

I'm not pleased. I'm delighted. Useless defender.

Would it surprise you? It wouldnt me, the way this season is going

Should have headed it into the corner

Hahahahaha

soapy tit wank

cuntflappingshitwank.

Oh well, I'm beginning to think project positive isn't all I hoped.

Self destruction

FOR FUCKS SAKE! Fuck right off!

well he's the best we have

Any chance Williams can share that taxi with Hylton

1-0 down, Obika off, Norris on. Not a confidence inspiring sub (he says, attempting to tempt fate)

Is our top goalscorer now own goals we've scored?

Superb we just get better and better dont we, for fuck sake change the bloody manager before were out of sight. :doh:

The usual like for like sub. Maybe justified, but certainly not adventurous.

Its over red.

We are on bloody freefall.

Now fucking coventry have scored

Coventry winning  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: how shit are we.

5 defeats in a row if we lose tonight, and that clueless fucker will still be in a job.

Absolute joke of a club.

The Sherwood excuse for missing the oxford game was a lod of shit too, do they think we are that thick?

Tossers

And that folks is that. We're not going to turn this around either tonight or the rest of the season.

Wait for today's excuse from Williams 'we weren't under any pressure until we conceded an own goal'

It's fucking bullshit. The club is a laughing stock.

Summary so far:

Losing.
Can't score (other than in our own net)
Striker in potential hissy fit departure.
Centre back suspended.

Could quite easily see us not winning again this season.

Power might as well change our name to 'Swindon Town Nil'....

Sad

At least we're only losing by one.

What a shit fuck of a season

Last 5:
1-0
1-0
2-1
1-0
1-0 (L)

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Said that a couple of games ago. Looking more and more likely, we really are that shit. I'm finding the whole situation soul destroying to be honest.  Just don't see any way back.

The atmosphere on Saturday is going to be poisonous.

So close to five draws = one and 2/3 wins.

Fine margins and all that...

Looks like we've improved defensively.........

Fuck my old boots!

Yeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssss. Nice one Norris (and Brophy)

1-1

From twitter

Roses are red
Violets are blue
We're never winning again
See y'all in League Two

We've only gone and scored!!!!!

Sad thing is, even if we conceded no more goals this season, we'd still get relegated.

soapy tit wank

2-1

We are SHIT

*sigh*.

As you were.

oh wait :crash:

Top scorer strikes again

It went in while you were typing didn't it....

F'ing Tool!

We've done a... oh ffs

At least someone's having a half decent Valentine's.

Oh jesus h christ!

Oh fuck off you cunts

Was about to write something positive then.....

Fucking pathetic.

As the commentary just said 'we can't cope'

Carbon copy of the goal he scored at our place its almost as if we don't ever learn from previous mistakes.....

ffs!

Williams: We got ourselves back in it but slight lapse of concentration.........

Apart from a couple of good seasons it's been like this for nearly 20 years.

Williams needs to go tonight end off.

Mentally shit...

4 mins added time - Time enough to lose 3-2 !

Power you cunt.

Yes. But who would want to come here? We could only dream of someone like Tisdale or Nathan Jones or Danny Cowley. Nigel 'I've necked a bottle of positivity pills' Adkins? A rescue job is pretty much out of the question, so it would have to be based on Div 4 football. Fucked if I know who.

I would love someone to get the Adver to ask if there is any truth in the fact that Hylton took a taxi.

Embleton

Another day another defeat.

Bring on the millionaire cheesecake  :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak

P.S fuck off Power, Sherwood, Williams and bottling excuses for pro footballers.

Why do we bother!?

Charlton for me (even if its £30 a ticket) and season binned. Im not attending another.

All gallows humour aside, if Hylton has thrown a hissy fit and stormed off, he needs to be sacked and Williams with him.

get lou out of retirement they would be fucked after a days training.

I'd try Chalky White with McCloughlin, at least they'd care.

my god why him he needs to go aswell. ::)

Fuck off Williams, Fuck off Embleton, Fuck off Sherwood (if you're still here) and Fuck off Power for continuing to be a grade a cunt and keeping Williams in a job.

Really have nothing else to say to be honest.

Dave Hockaday is a viable option, at least he might rile them up.

Fucking hell, I know times are desperate but behave yourself.

Please can someone transcribe Williams' post match drivel?

I don't think I've ever been as anti-coaching staff as I feel about this one. McMahon perhaps.

Scallywags, the lot of 'em.

Standing by

FUCK OFF WILLIAMS. JUST FUCK OFF. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Dabber ready for excuse bingo ?

That wasn't even the worst suggestion on the last few pages

We couldnt cope with equalising

You're a gem. I'm not sure anyone else could stand it.

It would be refreshing if it includes: "Well, I gave it my best shot, I thought I could do it but I can't. So, thanks for letting me have a go. I'm off now. Bye."

Well it could hardly be any worse...

 :D

Hahaha Hylton DID strop off. Fact.

Seriously? What a fucking prick.

The thin crumb of hope I hold onto is that we will finally get rid of the two useless 'super coaches' and replace them with somebody competent who has enough games left to try and have a good go at saving us
Some hope of it actually happening though

The more I think about it, the more I wonder they're all in it together. Surely Williams would walk and save himself further embrassment?

At the very least Williams should tender his resignation. If he has the clubs best intentions at heart he should realise he cannot cut it at the moment.

Nothing looks like changing.  May as well give someone else a go for the last dozen or so games of the season to see if anything changes

Williams:
- Difficult to swallow. Impossible to deal with it straight away. Too difficult
- Mentality again. We dont mark in the box. Lose concentration
- Two crosses. Dont mark and concede twice.
- Score equailser and so negative and defend too deep.
- Irretrievable if you don't try and push the players
- Not quitting.
- Have we got enough men in the changing room? Yes, if they step up
- They put a lot of pressure on us. Dabo not exposed to that before. With a young player always a chance that they can buckle. Know he is good, but too much of a risk to leave him on. Didnt do it earlier as it would be too damaging. Also giving him a chance to put it right
- Brophy needs to do that more often. Can run with the ball well. Need more of it.
- Gladwin. Has tremendous talent. He is fighting and giving everything. I can suffer the odd bad game. Ben loves this club and is trying his best.
- Dressing room is devastated.
- Need to dust ourselves down and go again on saturday
- Fine line between shuffling and building understanding
- Dion showed good defensive qualities & calmness on the ball in last
- Hylton. No player is happy to not be in the team. Brought extra player tonight like they had in other games. Hylton did leave early. Williams says thats not acceptable. We will sort it out in house.
 - Williams will keep doing the job he is employed to do.

Power will surely now realise Williams cannot carry on with any sort of faith or support from the fans. Surely.

Call it a fucking day and get an actual manager who wants to be there instead of a coach to try and do a job he was clearly not up to months ago (and didn't want).

For fuck sake it's beyond a joke. 4 points adrift.

Maybe so. But signs of an unhappy dressing room and lack of confidence in Williams ability.

WE WANT WILLIAMS OUT, SAY WE WANT WILLIAMS OUT.

And players?

If you're gonna pull that kind of stunt as a 24 year old League One striker, you need a better goalscoring record than 1 goal in 46 appearances.

He has lost the dressing room it would seem - with no leader on the field he has a serious problem in any event, but if the dressing room is split makes it impossible for him.  Power has to act surely?

Agreed

Needs to leave.

And Vale have two games in hand.

It's okay folks, we'll be ready to go again on Saturday, as clearly we're suddenly going to be so much better mentally.

4 points adrift of Port Vale who have 2 games in hand.

Williams thinks he's doing his job?!  Seriously, why would you want to stay in a job where you're failing so miserably? It can't just be about his wages?

I feel that the only reason I'll attend on Saturday is to make my feelings on the current situation known. That's not support in the slightest,  but I honestly can't support this utter joke of a set up any longer.

Don't agree with a player stropping off, but you have to wonder how well the situation was dealt with by Williams.

 It's as dire as it gets at the moment.

Indeed.

Game over I think. No manager can stay when the dressing room has had enough (though I have to say it's hilarious from Hylton considering he's achieved nothing, even if he should be playing).

Impossible to deal with straight away - Its your fucking job!
Not marking in the box has nothing to do with mentality. Its players not fucking doing there job. As a manager you should be fucking screaming at them at every set piece they don't mark.
Score equaliser and so negative - it was only 60 bloody seconds not enough time for us to be negative!
Gladwin trying his best - well his best clearly isn't fucking good enough!
Dust ourselves down and go again and try to lose another game
Why the fuck play Dion out of position, again another clueless fucking decision.

Whilst I don't agree with Hylton's actions I can completely understand his frustration. How can you score 4 goals in 45mins (ableit for reserves) and then not even be good enough for the bench 7 days later but yet Rodgers and Thomas are?

Power fuckinrb put Williams out of his misery, its already too late to save the season. This was the important month and you've done fuck all

so many people defending Hylton on Twitter, what the fuck

Whatever the circumstances, it's not good. Hylton is a twat, LW is a twat.

They're all ruddy twats.

My summery of Willams post match interview
 :eek:
 :zipped:
 :hmmm:
 :zzz:
 :zzz:
 :badmood:
 :doh:
 :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

More down to the way people are feeling about the management I would guess.

I don't imagine he'd have the same level of support if we were currently riding high in the League.

 Hylton knows it's back to part time football for him... he's tried but not good enough and doubt he'll pick up a Conference club.  The same fate awaits most of our boys, some maybe a bit quicker than others..... Jermaine though knows what it's like.

I have a bit of sympathy. He seems to have done what he has been told. Gone to non league to get game time. Come back to battle for a place. It has sounded as if he has been a bright spark when brought on from the bench. He then scores a load in the reserves. Then all of a sudden he isn't even on the bench.

Turned radio straight off as could not be assed to listen to the excuses again and again and................

Once upon a time this result would have me seething but now I expect it and seemingly so do the players. Looking at the Divvy 2 results and the teams we are very likely to be playing next season really makes me feel that we could be in as much trouble then as we are now.

And

The Hylton strop not at all professional and doubt if we will see him again, but smacks of underlying problems in the camp.

It's all a bit fucking shit isn't it?
I might dig my orange hat out.

They're all absolute fucking cunts but Hylton is at least hilarious.


Of all things that are wrong at the moment, not giving Hylton a prolonged chance in the starting XI because he scored some goals in a reserve game and runs around a lot is not high on the list. It's a bit of a daft thing to focus on.

I think it's the manner of it all
Mate. Obika & Norris are not fit and had late fitness tests and get in ahead after Hylton has performed lately and to make matters worse he puts 4 fucking midfielders on the bench ahead of him.

Hylton can Fuck right off(very non league) take Boo with him.I'm pissed off with people saying how dangerous Hylton looks...fuck ff get real.He looks like a kid playing in a 13 year old league game.As for Boo,he makes Hylton look like Messi.
We pay good money to watch this when we could get it for free on a Sunday morning.

  For many years 6 defeats on the spin, was the club record...we're looking at matching that on Saturday, think it happened about 3 times in our history.  Kingy then lost 6 in a row in 05/06 and was sacked.  Iffy then lost his first 2 to create the new record of 8 .... there's little doubt that we could be for new figures this year.

||||Unbelievable.

I can see why he'd be pissed off but he's done fuck all for us in three years, not worth the effort.

There are far bigger problems that need addressing

Some of our fans either don't go to watch games,are blind or just fucking clueless about what players are in the team for. :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

We're like Harchester United. Wonder who's shagging whose wife.

Keep? How about start?

Maybe Oxford employ him.

Perhaps Williams has something over Power? That could explain why he was offered such a ridiculously long contract and still has a job.  

hahahah seriously?

was that Roy of the rovers

if a defeat on Saturday brought the end of Williams would people take the defeat now? For the first time ever At this moment in time I feel like I want a defeat rather than a smokescreen that anything other would provide

Dream Team. Used to be Sunday night's on Sky 1.

I laughed but it's as plausible a suggestion as anything else now, logic has completely abandoned SN1

Ahh, what was Roy of the Rovers then :hmmm:

Melchester Utd IIRC. Not quite so much shagging each others' wives

Fulchester wasn't it? Or was that in viz?

Edit. Yep, viz. Billy the Fish  :)

Melchester, thats it cheers

Rovers though Paul, hence Roy of the Rovers  :wink:

No its not acceptable. And no he isn't that great.

I see it as symptomatic of a lack of unity and respect within the squad. We are truly fucked without that. I bet it runs deeper than Hylton.

This is so bad now,I'm starting to think Power actually wants us to go down.

Is there some sordid little money making scheme going on, that somehow involves us getting relegated?

As ridiculous as that sounds,it would make more sense than continuing with the current managerial set-up.

If I were involved in any of Powers businesses,especially if I had invested money in them,I would be seriously concerned in his ability to make prudent decisions.

How can you continue with a business model that is so obviously failing spectacularly,and make no attempt to try and improve things?

I am genuinely dumbfounded..

would be interesting to see the stats at this point in time compared to the other Williams relegation season (Reg)

I might be in the minority but I agree with Hylton. This team is utter shite, unfit and couldn't score in a brothel and so our reserve striker scores 4 in a reserves game and yet can't get on the bench. Why does Obika deserve to start? He's always getting injured and Goddard is a fucking pussy.

I really really hate this team, I can't wait for this season to end.

That really should have been 7 or 8-1, far too close. Richards penalty miss, his two missed one on ones, Smith putting it wide, Anderson off the inside of the post, Boateng missing the follow up. That was not a 2-1 game, and better teams will punish us.

Quick word for Swindon, they didn't look up to much really, lots of nice football as usual but little to no cutting edge. Brophy looks a player.

From a Cobblers fan. When Brophy is the shining light it's time to give up!

'kin 'ell, I'm not fucking bright, am I? Jeez!

So, the depression continues...

Not sure if anyone has their hair cut at Guys on Groundwell road, but that place is a font of knowledge when it comes to finding out what our magical squad of players are really like. I had my barnet scrubbed up on Monday. According to the broken english bloke who did the cutting, most of our players think we're already down.

According to him, none of them give a flying fuck, but especially the ones who are on loan. Most of them are driving £30k+ cars and have money coming out of their ears, and when they're training with PL stars and coaches at their parent clubs they see no reason to respect our coaches.

Few of them live here either, so they don't meet fans when they are out and about. Think opne or two may suffer an Aiden Flint moment on a saturday night if they did!

Most of the squad have their hair sorted there, so it's obvious theyd know who is who. Kicking myself for not mentioning it before.

The only chance we have now is to boot Williams before Saturday and give the job to someone like Alan Mac until the end of the season. We'd be right back into Paul Hart territory and as we know there are never any guarantees, but at least it would give us a fighting chance and get everyone fired up during the remaining games.

Power dragged his feet and played Mr Stubborn over the Advertiser, and he's doing the same with Williams. He's pig headed. He wants him gone, but will not pay him off. He also wants the physio / fittness coach out, but wont pay him. It's a game of who blinks first, but the stakes are big. Cannot see Williams walking away or Power paying him, so more of the same Im afraid.

Having had chance to reflect on this, I don't think I've been very fair to Williams here. I think he has been doing the job he was brought in to do. But the problem is that that job is not to manage the team, it's to develop individual players so that they can be sold on or return to parent clubs improved/developed thereby proving the worth of the "model". What we're seeing here is the difference between a coach and a manager. Williams is a coach, we need a manager, but Power's experiment benefits more from a development coach and he's gambled that WIlliams can be enough of a manager to enable us to get away with it. And the gamble's failed, badly. Taking Williams and our League 1 status with it

Oh go on then, I'll bite....
- Many of those in the starting 11 and on the bench have been performing badly all season
- No one seems to be scoring any goals
- Many seem not to be trying
- Several don't seem to be capable league footballers
- The coach/manager doesn't seem to be able to motivate the players nor put right the problem

The point I was trying to make against that backdrop was that in the last few games, when Hyton came off the bench, his pace seemed to cause teams some problems. (Where as nothing else has) However, his end product has remained poor and he still hasnt scored this year.

I don't think he is anything more than a non-league player. But, in an away game where you need to win or probably need to score, I think you would want whatever attacking options you have available to you either in the team or on the bench. Especially an option that may be more confident having just scored 4 in a meaningless game against second rate reserve opposition - Something Obika, Norris and Ajose haven't done recently.

So, Williams thinks its best to go for Obika and Ajose to start with Norris covering for Obika if he breaks down. Well, that's fine, but how does that look to Hylton? Dropped on the day for two crocked strikers and a loanee? None of whom have been prolific this year. If that happened to me, I'd be annoyed.

Personally, I think the worse thing you can do to staff is to mislead them. You have to manage people's expectations. I would have told Hylton before he got on the bus that I fancied the others instead of him. I would have done it before the trip - not on the day! That way, if there has been an adverse reaction, I could have kept it away from the dressing room. All that doing on the day did was to invite toys being thrown out of the pram infront of the rest of the team.

So, no I don't think Hylton is good enough. But, I think everyone deserves to be treated with a bit of respect. I don't think it was respectful to Hylton that he wasn't on the bench to be tried as an impact sub.

We've dropped a lot of points in parallel with dropping Rodgers...

I don't think starting obika was wrong. proven partnership.

midfield, it's lost there

Just watched the goals; http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10768589/northampton-2-1-swindon

Jones scores OG, and loses marker for 2nd. Obviously big problem with midfield, but think it's lost all over the park. Defence, Midfield and Forwards not good enough. Only one who obviously is is the GK.

Just reminiscing a few old terms "heart on the sleeve", "proud to wear the shirt".

Makes you wonder if Brophy can whip a ball across like that with his right foot, then why doesn't he use it every now and again!

Also, who is it that runs over to him?

Love the hairdresser rumours from someone with toupee in their username. Got to be 100% legit

LW will not be removed from post unless/until the following criteria is meet:
Either he agrees to leave and it is purely his choice, meaning he walks away and isn't compensated.
Or, as is currently happening we are relegated and he is sacked without severance.

So, unless our fortunes turn round sharpish we are either relegated or were are stuck with this shameful excuse for football for the remainder of LW contract.  :suicide:

The logic doesn't work. Williams won't be on a great deal. 4 years x his salary (the pay off) has to be far, far less than it will cost Power in lost revenue for dropping to League 2, with no reasonable prospect of returning to League 1.

What if someone had taken a heavy wager on us being relegated?

thing is frigby, it's more likely he'll sack Williams and still get relegated now :(

Probably try and sack Hylton for breach of contract or something i bet

It's a bit childish and unprofessional.

1 win in 12 league games, 13 if you count Luton  :(

Hylton is complete shit lets be honest. Some fans seem to think he has something as occasionally he comes on as a sub and runs with a bit of pace and the opposition don't know what he is going to do, which is easy to understand given Hylton himself hasn't got a fucking clue either!

Observations from last night and since Jan window closed.

1. We can't play Colkett and Gladwin in the same team in this formation. Pick one and bin the other. Gladwin has not been great but we know he has a goal in him. I'm afraid Colkett needs to be binned.
2. The defense continues to be shit as it has been for the last few years. The blame lies squarely on the coaches and Power for this, it was clear someone was needed back there but we failed. They need to bin this 5 at the back crap. It worked a treat for us when we had wing backs that could get us up the pitch and a midfield who could fight and win the ball as well as support going forward. We don't have that standard of players at the moment.
3. Ajose is a great goalscorer but you have to create the chances so at the moment he is a waste of space.

I'm not one to normally question players drive or willingness to fight as i think its a cliche fans use far too readily. However i think its reasonable to expect that in the current relegation fight we are in that the players on loan with futures secure elsewhere do probably not care about this season for us. I think you couple that with Obika (who didn't want to sign a new contract last summer) who will be off this summer, Kasim who has wanted to leave for a year or two and will be off this summer and Thompson (who i don't doubt cares) but knows he will get hooked up somewhere else next year. So how many players really care about the outcome of this season. Its a criticism of the transfer and contract policy particularly in light of a lack of experience to supplement the squad.

Overall for the last few years (essentially since Di Canio left) we've been bullied by a lot of teams and we either are good enough to beat them or we are not. At the moment we are not. I think we need to pick a team of players that will be here next year and/or are physically able to fight and earn the right to play football. Switch it to a back four (not a lot of options here), play Thompson, Jones, Branco, Dabo. Bye Bye Boo and Brophy (the left back version of Alan O'Brien). Get two fighters in midfield Thomas (here until 2019!!!) and Ince (assuming not convicted - good signing!!!) or Smith otherwise. Get Goddard back in the team, with Gladwin, maybe even play the lad Jordan Young if fit. Norris up top.

Rant over

No matter which way you cook it, we're fucked this season. And with Power saying he's not for changing, we're fucked next season, too.

All well and good admitting cocking up one transfer window, but 4 ffs.

We've been in decline since the Feb of the play off season - which was how long it took for others to suss out how to negate our 'style'. Sticking to it for so long with the overwhelming evidence it doesn't work is wilful neglect.

If anyone can see a glimmer of hope for the future I'd like to know it.

 - Hylton is the new Miles Storey in some eyes but won't play for us again. What a tit. No great loss.
 - William won't walk and nor should he. Not his decision to make.
 - Power reckons we outspent everyone in the league in January. Needs to back it up with money on a decent, proven manager.
 - That does not mean Alan Mac, or Steve White, or Macari, or any of the other ridiculous shouts on here.
 - Two routes - give someone promising from non-league a decent run at it beyond this season, so even if/when we go down (Luke Garrard could be a shout, as Reg mentioned), we have a right old go next year or get a firefighter in til the end of the season on a big safety bonus.

Cotterill 👀

Agree with this, if this is how it was handled it was completely mismanaged. But equally you can't just flounce off like that. Poor man management by Williams (again, it's that coach v manager thing), just as poor reaction from Hylton.

Anyone but....

No need to discuss anymore it seems you have it all sorted.

The thing is he doesn't actually need to resign. He just needs to be put back as a coach (which I'm sure he would agree to?) and a manager brought in.

I can understand Hylton and probably other permanent players feel the same.

They see a host of loanees come in and none of them are performing any better than 'our' players.

Are Colkett/Gladwin playing any better than Goddard has - no.

There are just too many uncommitted players playing - either on loan or out of contract soon. Who gives an actual fuck.

It really is that easy. Allow him to slip back into the shadows and do what he is apparently good at.

Problem with that is, as far as I can see, he's no better at coaching. We've been in freefall for a while with Williams on the training ground.

If/When he goes, he goes completely. Plus Power wouldn't pay 2 wages.

Agree with this.

As far as I'm concerned,I wouldn't let Williams anywhere near the Kettle,let alone the training ground.

He's just got to go,full stop. Have a fresh start somewhere else,and take Embleton with him.

I didn't listen yesterday, I didn't even bother checking the result until this morning and am less than shocked to see we lost, again.

Williams won't quit and I don't blame him either, why should he? hes on a lucrative (compared to normal working man salary) contract, Power probably can't afford to remove him other than move him sideways in his job so he is still with us and Power has an extra contract to pay as well for a new manager.

Can't see it happening, I think we will struggle on towards eventual relegation and Power will assess things in the summer.

This isn't what I or any Town fan want or what we as a club need.

Power does rate Williams as a coach, fuck knows why but he does, defensively we seem to have been leaking goals ever since he arrived on the scene

The money might be better spent of a good defensive coach(s) like Luggy had with Summerfield and Blackley, get the defense playing as a unit and not as 3/4/5 individuals.

I hope Power sees sense and gets rid of LW and RE before their own stock goes down so far they are unemployable elsewhere.

As for Hylton, I can fully understand his frustration but grow a set of bollocks, act like a man and not a petulant child, sacking may be a bit harsh but apologise to the management and get on with your job before you don't have a job.

What has Hylton done?

Left the ground in full kit when he found out that he'd been dropped from the squad.

Don't they have to announce the squad some time before kick off and he would know then, he got changed bloody early unless he travels in full kit (when I has PE I used to come home with my kit under my uniform, perhaps Hylton does likewise?)

Im presuming he was in training tracksuit, not kitted up

In my head he was wearing shirt, shorts, boots and shinpads.

This sounds ridiculous but does anyone know what our odds to be relegated at the start of the season were?

I wonder if he went to strip club. Cant blame him if so

I think they were 5/2 with Bet365 as I was tempted to put a bit of money on it but didn't think the odds were that favourable.

Its a bit of a nothing story then, don't they travel in that stuff anyway?

From what I had read on here and some twatter stuff I thought he stormed out shouting effing and blinding about the management, waving his arms in full kit shouting he won't ever play for us again etc....

It does sound like a storm in an egg cup to me then.

:D

Here is a quote from the Cobblers forum that sums it up perfectly.

hmmm that's good odds if you're going to get someone get someone to put £1mil on for you. Lets says it's 3/1 with a private broker. £4mil return. Can afford to pay a demotion bonus to people who'll stay of 50K. x 20 that's a mil. Leaves 3mil. probably enough to cover relegation and turn a profit......however this is only a theory but would speak volumes as to why no one seems to give a flying pigs tit

I'm all for a bit of healthy cynicism but the planned relegation theory is complete bollocks.

Puts that Newcastle FA Cup bet in its place, though.

Besides anything, try rocking up to a bookies and placing an early £1M bet on a team to get relegated...The "suspicious" alarm would ring all day.

Quite possibly THE most ludicrous (and possibly libelous) thing on here I have ever read. (not you Batch)

It sounds ridiculous but can anyone doubt that power doesn't give a fuck about relegation.

Oh, I never win anything..

Oh, Goddard's shirt, forgot about that..

I tried to put £200 on my dog last week with Bet365 - they let me have £20 and then cut the odds!

It's a theory not an accusation as stated. In any case, I think we all know that people in that world of "fixed arrangements" do not use their local bookies....

I can possibly believe that - as he's done fuck all to try and avoid what we've seen coming for a while. If turd polishing brings in a similar fee in L2  what's the difference to him.

If he has no intention of selling up and is prepared to match playing budget with a drop in income, there is very little difference between L1 and 2.

The quality of turd may decrease, making them harder to polish...

Yeah, seems unlikely I know.

Christ, just trying to imagine lesser quality turds next season.

Do you still want it ;)

Gladwin's body language for the penalty is noticeable. No preparing to sprint into the box in case there is a rebound. Just standing on the edge of the box like a lemon. It would amaze me if he wants to be at this football club at the moment, I reckon he's got too big for his boots.

Ben has always been a stroller, I remember writing something on this before drawing comparisons to similar types. Usually not trusted in English football. I'm sure he likes Luke, as he wouldn't make the same demands as a Hollowhead....but playing him and Colkett is a bit bizarre. I'd have stuck him in behind Obika or Norris as a second striker with a free role, but you can't do that with Ajose...all of which confirms what I said about imbalance in the squad after window.

Well, er, the boys do :)

I noticed Gladwin has shaved off his terrible bum-fluff beard; perhaps he has a Samson thing going on, his football ability is located in his beard?

I finally worked out who Gladwin reminds me of. Remember the cowardly Corporal Upham in Saving Private Ryan?

(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/frenchreds/imgres_9.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/frenchreds/media/imgres_9.jpg.html)

Based on last night I'd pick Norris in front of Obika.

After we scored Norris grabbed the ball & ran back to kick off because he wanted to try & win the game.

Wa interesting that watching their second goal again he was the one following the runner towards the ball & it was Lloyd Jones who lost the man that scored. You could see Norris was actually angry about it whilst most of the others just looked like they were expecting it to happen

Norris reminds me of Alan Connell

I'd pick a fit Obika over Norris every day of the week. We need goals. Trouble is, he's been so injured he may never be fit before the end of the season.

10 games, 7 goals for, 14 against, 5 points. Second lowest scorers in league over that period (Chesterfield have 4, but have 9 points in the same period - (2 x 1-0, 2 x 0-0 and a 1-1 ), thus proving goals for is only half the story.

He was pretty awful last night, maybe it's because he isn't fit enough to play

Think Luke has shown he is at least a trier, if limited, I could see him getting a few in Div 4 mind, with the right type of service. A sort of not quite as good as James Collins, hopefully without the pissing in glasses capers when we go to Cheltnum.

That's a shame, I was clinging on to hope he'd make a difference. If Norris is the form man/most likely to unlock Ajose then that's cool. At this stage there isn't really an clear answer.

He reminds me of Gary Alexander when he was with us. Not quite at L1 level yet, could do it at league 2.

At least Connell scored goals 👀

lower league and a better side but yeah

Isn't that it though, 'triers'. Pick up a 23 year-old from non-league desperate to get his career going again back in the League and he might be hungry enough to care about the 3 points.

Get a 19 year-old from Chelsea, or whoever, on loan, already earning £3k a week compared to his mates minimum wage if they're lucky - is it any surprise they don't bust a gut in front of a small crowd on a pissy night in Northampton? 3 points? Who cares? Where's me Range Rover?

Heard today that a real trier of the 70s, Ernie Moss of Chesterfield legend status, has severe dementia in his 60s prob due to heading the heavier balls of the era. He'd look like Alan Shearer combined with Messi if he was playing for our shambolic mob today.

Connell is now a youth coach at Bormuff..... I wonder if he was in charge of their reserves last week?

I saw a bit about Ernie too, one of my favourite opposition players so sorry to hear about his plight. We're going to end up with no heading or having to wear some sort of headgear aren't we?

Not sure but he said on twitter he was coming to the game on saturday

I've thought about that too, and we did try that in the play off season, when he smacked a few goals in whilst the season fell apart, and some people thought we had a genuine player.  We've never recovered from losing that Louis energy, and effectively replacing it with Lord Strollerness.  In fact it seems to have become an entrenched philosophy in two years since: thou shalt not lower thyself to run in pursuit of the football (see also Colkett, Rodgers, Thomas etc etc).

Anyway, my point is, as a pragmatic coach I couldn't even trust him as a second striker: when he has played there he's not been able to cut out supply to wide players from the keeper.  We were far too easy to 'get at' with full backs frequently getting to the half way line unopposed.

So that's a no from me, although doubtless the search will go on to accommodate him.  Get him off my pitch.