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Title: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, January 30, 2017, 11:37:02
I am in no way saying let's protest btw before anyone tries to shoot me down.

What i am wondering is let's assume that things just carry on as they are then obviously things will come to ahead so at what point do the fans say enough is enough. I seen the thread on acceptance and agree it does seem like that but would assume there would be a trigger for say the trust to get involved and rally the supporters to really make a point against the current owner/managment .

So what will make you snap.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Trashbat? on Monday, January 30, 2017, 11:46:48
I actually said to my Dad yesterday, my point of snapping will be if we bring no one else in during the transfer window. The problems are obvious and by not acting then Powerwood are accepting relegation.

We need a minimum 3 if not 4 players in by tomorrow night...CB, CM and 2 forwards.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 30, 2017, 11:50:02
We need a minimum 3 if not 4 players in by tomorrow night...CB, CM and 2 forwards.
I would put my house on this not happening, 2 maximum new signings IMO.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, January 30, 2017, 11:53:00
IF no one else comes in then we need lots of questions answering as it would seem that LP/TS are either blind or taking the piss, things could get ugly Sunday if we are handed the expected dicking by the piss stains and that is coupled with a lack of much needed reinforcements.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: pauld on Monday, January 30, 2017, 11:56:33
I suspect most people's breaking point would be a heavy defeat on Sunday


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Batch on Monday, January 30, 2017, 12:13:31
I suspect most people's breaking point would be a heavy defeat on Sunday

I actually said to my Dad yesterday, my point of snapping will be if we bring no one else in during the transfer window.

Both of these will cover 90% of fans I reckon.

I think I could recover from another Oxford defeat if there was light at the end of the tunnel.

But three Chelsea kids and Gladwin being our only ins and (or more league gameless 17 year old "punts") would convince me this club is FUBAR'd.

Trouble is, other than the inevitable vocal towards Sherwood/Power I'm not sure I have the energy/enthusiasm for more drastic protesting (See :acceptance thread).



Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Batch on Monday, January 30, 2017, 12:16:00
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a trigger for say the trust to get involved and rally the supporters

Tricky one for the Trust. Evidence of the club going down the swanny/Power taking the piss financially would by my guess.

Not sure the trust should wage war based on where we are today. They should (and probably are?)trying to ask some searching questions to the invisible man and silent bob.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Costanza on Monday, January 30, 2017, 12:31:11
The Twitter account recently pushing a 'Fight the Power' movement is too shallow. Lacks anything other than relying on people's unhappiness and a bunch of short-term questions that have been asked before.

Their logo is pretty though.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, January 30, 2017, 12:31:42
Breaking point for me will be if nothing is done to change things next season. I think it's too late for anything close to a turn around in fortunes this season and I'd written us off months ago


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, January 30, 2017, 12:38:29
Power is a thick-skinned old bastard and a few boos here and there wont bother him in the least.

Apparently, Oyston at Blackpool has said he will never, ever, ever sell the club and their lot have been protesting for years.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PU8KCBZtpEk


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, January 30, 2017, 12:49:37
Breaking point for me will be if/when any threat to club is real, or the ownership is proven to have malicious intent, rather than ineptitude and misguided ideas.

Until then - we're shit. That's all.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, January 30, 2017, 12:52:20
Power is a thick-skinned old bastard and a few boos here and there wont bother him in the least.

Apparently, Oyston at Blackpool has said he will never, ever, ever sell the club and their lot have been protesting for years.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PU8KCBZtpEk

There is a bit of a difference there, Blackpool have assets that bring income and thus not selling makes some sort of financial sense, in this case we have no assets, limited income that's only going to drop and the only way of actually making money is through investment, which isn't going to happen.

I actually have reached the stage that all I can think is either a) Power has some kind of masterplan which doesn't matter which division we are in (no fathomable idea what this could be as in the big scheme of things even player sales are only going to make monkey nuts) or b) he has frankly just lost all interest - but if that were the case would he not be looking to offload the liability? or c) Williams has some very compromising photographs of Power?


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 30, 2017, 12:56:46
Breaking point for me will be if/when any threat to club is real, or the ownership is proven to have malicious intent, rather than ineptitude and misguided ideas.

Until then - we're shit. That's all.
This.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, January 30, 2017, 12:58:53
The goalkeeping coach who went to FGR had some dirt on Power - personal stuff.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, January 30, 2017, 12:59:41
I'm looking forward to the Conference....might be fun, something different anyway.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:01:56
I'm looking forward to the Conference....might be fun, something different anyway.
That's gone beyond jesting these days. Our powder puff stuff will get well sorted in L2.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Costanza on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:02:26
I'm looking forward to the Conference....might be fun, something different anyway.

If/when the time comes. I'll be there.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:03:44
If/when the time comes. I'll be there.
Ditto. League level is not the deciding factor in my support of our club, a few more local games for me on the journey there anyway :)


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:05:21
 Be honest, though. How many seasons could you put up with as a Wrexham, for example.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:07:22
Be honest, though. How many seasons could you put up with as a Wrexham, for example.

If we had to become Welsh that might put some fans off?


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:08:37
 :D


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:09:01
Be honest, though. How many seasons could you put up with as a Wrexham, for example.
For me personally....however long it took to get out of that division, we have been shit in my lifetime we have been good in my lifetime.

You take the good with the bad, this is my club, I can't and don't want to change that, no matter how shit or how good we are/were/will become.....thats it.

Doesn't mean I have to enjoy it, its like life...you have some shit you have some good.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:10:25
If we had to become Welsh that might put some fans off?
Leave it out fella!!


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Costanza on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:11:43
Ditto. League level is not the deciding factor in my support of our club, a few more local games for me on the journey there anyway :)

Potential competitive cup fixtures against Supermarine, Chippenham and Bath. Losing to Southport in the FA Trophy final.

Heck I can't decide if I'm petrified or excited.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:13:44
I've written off this season. I will be sick as a pig on Sunday and don't want to go......but I will and the game after and the game after. The thought of them lot giving it large Sunday makes me want to vomit but they will and I won't. I've gone through angry and just shrug my shoulders now. I can't see anything changing. We're far too gone in just about every aspect, footballing and non footballing. Its too late for this season and I can't see anything changing so its a case of putting up with crap or not. I will put up with crap, others have given up or are on the verge of giving up. some will give up once the season ends but whichever, gates will plummet survival or no survival. I can't see Powers charisma winning them back so I think we're stuffed for the foreseeable.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:14:39
Potential competitive cup fixtures against Supermarine, Chippenham and Bath. Losing to Southport in the FA Trophy final.

Heck I can't decide if I'm petrified or excited.
I was thinking next season Yeovil and Exeter almost on my doorstep then the season after maybe Dorchester, Weymouth, Tiverton Town, Taunton Town....not all bad for me!


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:15:22
That's gone beyond jesting these days. Our powder puff stuff will get well sorted in L2.

I'm not jesting....as things stand we aren't fit for purpose for anything much above Conference North/South level.  Eastleigh who are bang in the middle of the middle of the Conference could easily take us apart at the CG.

I suspect fairly soon we'll be down to the 3 or 4 thousand diehards...who'll always go come what may.  There's certainly bugger all chance of any upward mobility under the present regime, and unless you're Oldham hanging about in Div 3 is difficult, as we're about to find out. I got slagged off before when I said we're now a Div 3/4 yo yo club, but this will be our 3rd  relegation in about 11 years.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Batch on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:17:39
I'm looking forward to the Conference....might be fun, something different anyway.


If I wanted to watch non-league football I'd go to Supermarine or Ciren.
Just so you know, I'm out (ST)
Would probably go to a few games.
(under Power anyway)


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:18:10
I will stop supporting the club if we don't sign anyone in the next 24 hours.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Batch on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:19:10
I will stop supporting the club if we don't sign anyone in the next 24 hours.

Fulham or Swindon?

:)


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: RobertT on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:28:54
The model seems to be to find the odd gem, polish them and sell them on, I don't suppose Power will exit while that still provides some return on is loans or until they are at least paid up - namely because external interest in buying him out will be next to zero given the current financial basis of the business.  Namely, zero assets and about 6million in liabilities when you add in Black's debenture against the club still.

We have two options- hope that he finds a few more gems and we repeat 2014/15 or that the Trust focusses efforts on an alternative option.  The only reason the Diamandis reign came to and end, in my opinion, is when a real option presented itself on the table for a way out.  Granted, they were so intent on not selling to the Trust or anyone who had anything to do with them that they resisted that approach, but it opened up the door to others.  We were a financial mess back then, but there was still a glimmer of hope of a development opportunity.  That seems to have all but extinguished, but if someone could work out a plan/business model that included some form of development and opportunity to ROI for any potential buyers (inc the Trust), then it might just work.

The tough call is what would happen after that - without major financial investment, the real likelihood is that the club is where it will be for many years to come.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Costanza on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:29:38
I was thinking next season Yeovil and Exeter almost on my doorstep then the season after maybe Dorchester, Weymouth, Tiverton Town, Taunton Town....not all bad for me!

You're thinking of just one relegation? Happy clapper! :)


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:31:30
You're thinking of just one relegation? Happy clapper! :)
No I included 2 relegations including this season ;)


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:34:59
Fulham or Swindon?

:)
Both!


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: pauld on Monday, January 30, 2017, 13:53:18
Losing to Southport in the FA Trophy final.
Wouldn't worry about that, the chances of Southport reaching the FA Trophy final are minimal.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, January 30, 2017, 14:14:39
The Twitter account recently pushing a 'Fight the Power' movement is too shallow. Lacks anything other than relying on people's unhappiness and a bunch of short-term questions that have been asked before.

Their logo is pretty though.

They are not going to sleep until Power sells the club..... I fear they may be knackered!


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: pauld on Monday, January 30, 2017, 14:15:34
They are not going to sleep until Power sells the club..... I fear they may be knackered!
Isn't prolonged sleep deprivation actually fatal?


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, January 30, 2017, 14:27:27
Isn't prolonged sleep deprivation actually fatal?

I believe so, if they expect Power to keep his promises its only fair?


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, January 30, 2017, 19:52:39
Breaking point? Probably a heavy piss poor defeat on Sunday for me coupled with yet another failed transfer window. The "model" doesn't work and hasn't since March 2015. Why we persist with it I'll never know. Power and Co need a shift in transfer policy, management structure and playing style. Power is too stubborn to admit he has got it wrong and that's what pisses me off the most. I remember Fitton standing down after 10/11. He had the balls to say " I fucked up". Power won't sell but he should at least step away from the playing side of things and I don't mean relying on tactics Tim who clearly doesn't give a shite either.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Monday, January 30, 2017, 20:18:37
im done, will go to some away games next year.
not renewing next season and lining powers pockets further.
never been so disillusioned, even when we were close to going bust there was a passion there to get behind the club. now so many feel alienated by the ownership to the point of not really caring anymore.

never thought id see the day.   :(

id swap places with Lincoln fucking City in a heartbeart.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Monday, January 30, 2017, 21:16:05
Let's drag out our demise to 2020 and 100 years as a Football League club


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: leftside on Monday, January 30, 2017, 21:33:50
Breaking point?: Death.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Ells on Monday, January 30, 2017, 23:07:23
Breaking point for me will be if/when any threat to club is real, or the ownership is proven to have malicious intent, rather than ineptitude and misguided ideas.

Until then - we're shit. That's all.

Thank you for expressing how I feel so succinctly. I've been trying for a while but you've got it for me, right there.

Not that I won't be livid when if we lose on Sunday, but I am very very unlikely to do any more than moan a lot and exceed my alcohol units for the day..

Someone mentioned Wrexham and I think that was actually my first ever game at the CG (my first ever was away). I think there were about 10 people there and everyone seemed pretty pissed off. Maybe that's why I'm not so apoplectic about our current situation, my earliest memory is of pretty much the same. And i still came back and I've still had some bloody good times.


Title: Re: Protests Angry Shouting Etc
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 13:28:48
I remember Fitton standing down after 10/11. He had the balls to say " I fucked up".

(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/i_fucked_up_will_ferrell.gif)