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Signed Jermaine Penant today. I thought I saw a possible admin post recently about them on here but they keep on spending!

A couple of notable posts on their forum:

I'd prefer it if we weren't ran that badly that we were not making such ridiculous losses year on year. Losses made despite maintaining, by our standards decent crowds, despite mass sponsorship, despite an FA Cup run and despite the sale of a fair few of our players. And where have these losses got us? If we were pushing for the championship or in the championship I could just about accept it. However all it has done is taken us to 16th in league one last season and into the relegation zone this season, winless for months and looking a good bet for relegation. As ever in my naivity I took this initial news as being good, however once I sat back, looked at the bigger picture, I can see it is little more than another piece of the murky jigsaw that is BFC's finances.

Aye...£7M of losses in 3 years (likely to be approaching £10M after 4 years) is perfectly normal for a League 1/2 club. I genuinely cant believe you think it is, surely you dont. Or do you?! Serious question btw. Coz if you do...that is frightening.   

 ::) A LOT of money being spent on 3000 crowds.

That's the problem with football as it is today that the financial model is broken. Player wages and club running costs exceed income from gates for most clubs. So you're options are:

Rely on a benefactor who is prepared to invest X million a season with little chance of getting it back.
Borrow like Bournemouth and Leicester and hope you get promoted before the EFL FPPP rules catch up with you.
Sell players each year to cover the losses or a good cup run.
Live within your means and risk struggling because everyone else is spending more

The first two risk attracting opportunists who may have ulterior motives such as ground sale or redevelopment of club land.

The last two get supporters moaning about lack of investment and drifting away.

Not a happy ending in sight here.

And yet there's still large sections of our fanbase who'd love us to sign Pennant and other "experienced pros" and lose £3m a year...

Thank goodness, thought this was another of those travel recommendations threads from someone looking for recommendations for the best places to go and see/stay in Bury

except that's total bollocks isn't it.

I don't accept a large part of our fan base want us to lose 3m a year, unless we had a Lansdown type who was happy to bankroll it.

I don't think many would expect a Pennant type name either .

I do think a larger number expect a few older heads in there though. which isn't unreasonable

I don't think anyone wants us to lose £3m a year, but I do think a lot of our fans wouldn't care if it meant we signed players they recognised and deem good enough simply because they've heard of them.

I am really not sure it is bollocks.

Bury are selling a 17 year old for £750k to Villa so are able to bankroll players like Pennant for a shortwhile BUT they will be back in the shit once the owners have spent that money and their relegation is confirmed.

They are constantly in and out of administration / financial troubles and it's not going to change unless owners come in and are willing to change the way the club is run (like Power did here). There is only a limited number of people with enough money to buy a team, throw millions at it then walk away when they decide it's not going to work. A lot of clubs at this level would struggle if they weren't run by "fan owners" who are willing to put the money in to their "boyhood club". Scunthorpe and Fleetwood are 2 that come to mind.

I'm inclined to agree with PP, I think many of our fans would want exactly that.

Hey, I used to live in Bury - don't knock it!!  ;)
Actually it was a dump - used to spend most weekends getting out of it and exploring the Pennines, Trough of Bowland or Lake District.

It had a great market though.

Many fans would get excited about a 'name' without thinking about the cost.

I am not sure that Fleetwood were the owners 'boyhood club' he is just a local lad done well. To be fair to him however his model is possibly a decent template as he had moved all his businesses to the ground and housed them in offices built within the stands which brings income (although he is essentially paying himself), Fleetwoood is a very good example of where a £10m investment can actually get you if it is cannily done.

As for our fans appreciation of money the one that always sticks in the mind is the infamous £40k? historic debt that Jed wittered on about, I know it was subsequently shown to be bollocks but the way certain supporters got very sniffy about it not just being paid off whatever its history and without any investigation said a lot, sadly many supporters expect owners to throw tens of thousands around for little hope of return, whilst simultaneously complaining that burgers have gone up 10p.

Home of black pudding!

Can't beat a hot fresh black pudding in a roll (sorry barm) from Bury market.

To appreciate the full delusional state of some sectors of our support you only have to view that Facebook group. I'm not saying they all are, but fuck me there's some....

I popped on there last week for the first time in month....I soon regretted my decision.

Yes, there are sections that are thick as shit. That's life.

it builds a good case for involuntary euthanasia.....

i've stopped posting in there as it makes me want to headbutt the wall

I use the group to laugh at them


The one idiot keeps saying Power should put the club for sale and someone will buy it, but last time we went for sale, how many put the hands forward? and we ended up in the shit with Jed.

He also keeps saying we are a premier league club stuck in L1 (because we had 1 season there) and we should never be in this league playing with teams like Scunthorpe.

It really passes the time when I am pretending to work  :D

Sweet fucking Jesus.
He's probably one of those twunts who boasts about boycotting games too.

Sometimes I wish I had such delusions of grandeur.

kid you not, if you even say one nice thing about the club you are a "happy clapper"..... the guy is a moron but has a band of merry men who follow his gospel...... he says he has evidence Power is taking "millions from the club" but can't provide the evidence because the people he knows would lose their jobs or some shit.... The guys "stories" are fricking hilarious

We are not a Premier League club in L1, Jesus we're not even a Championship club in L1. I'd say we are a top half L1 club currently under performing hence why we are in the bottom half.

yep, we have always been about L1 level apart from a couple good years in the 2 divisons apart

Off topic slightly. Made me laugh the other day- had radio on discussing the fa cup replays when I heard a presenter say that Bolton were a sleeping giant if ever there was one. Eh?!

I don't think it's an outrageous statement.

57th in the all time list, around mid table in the third tier, in fact, exactly that point.  So we are just below that right now.  Bolton are 18th, so it is in fact quite accurate.

Apparently not as outrageous as I first thought. However stats are there to be twisted, glory in their early days for example, if you did a last 50 years league table Bolton are 30th and we rise to 48th!

 Useful point for Bury tonight, but it keeps the Burslem Boys on the edge of things.  Vaughan 6 goals in 2 games.

O for a goal scorer. After those two games he would be twice as many as our current leader. Embarrassing. He is one of those how the fuck did he end up there players, 14 in 20 games for them now.

Hes a cheltenham fan also

Reckons you are nazi sympathiser haha

He says he isn't  ??? but I just think he is a troll out for a laugh

I liked that one though  :beers:

Oh, you mean him.
Pretty sure he's not a troll unfortunately. He's certainly been around a while.

Nazi sympathiser? What the hell?  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Fify.






Sorry.

That took me a while to spot, I feel like I shouldn't say it but good work :D

Was hilarious! He called me that because I quote..

Bloody hell Heinrich Himmler I can't believe you went there  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

What a fool he is.

he's either a bit special, or a level 10 troll.

I'm guessing the former, but I'm hoping it's this generations kr

He's just a cunt

at it again

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very much so, i really enjoy the laughs I get from that group, brightens up every day :D

I think he really is, genuinely, that dim. I've read his posts before with an open mind to try and determine whether or not he's just a troll but came to the firm opinion that he is as thick as 2 short planks.