Thetownend.com

Pro EU politicians are being murdered

Hate crimes against minorities are on the rise

Now tabloid and broadsheet media alike are publishing false images alleging middle aged translators working in this country to be immigrants posing as children on their front pages

What the fuck is wrong with people?

In order to answer your title question, it isn't. People are no different now to what they have ever been

You're not old enough to remember the 70's or early 80's Dave, are you?

That doesn't mean they haven't always been bigoted.

What is it these days why so many people love to knock their own country?

I think the British are, by and large, the most welcoming and tolerant of people.

I'll try and rephrase. I think people are just as bigoted as they always have been.

As are virtually any nationality you'd care to mention

The last one has been shown to not true.
One lone wolf idiot murdered an MP.
As for hate crimes - unfortunately if you ask more questions, you often get more of a 'problem'. Britain today is a far more tolerant, pleasant place to be than at any time in it's history. On the whole we are a tolerant bunch, but if you push people too far they will break. Some issues are self evident, yet never given credence by the elite. Why is there no housing - possibly because of the huge influx of people into the country?

Degrees of bigotry can be established by governments and religions, which are not necessarily wholly reflective of individuals within a society.

 So for example back in August 1964, Peter Allen and Gwynne Evans were hanged for murder in Strangeways, the following week STFC got beat 6-1 at Bury, not far away.  Both events very much within my lifetime, however I'd hazard a guess, a majority of people in the country would still be in favour of capital punishment for murder.

Whereas we lost Norman Oakley early on to a broken arm, and because no subs allowed played most of the game without a keeper. I don't suppose many would favour returning to the days of no subs.

The scumbag press has a lot to do with bigotry. Helped by the fact that many people seem to be unwilling or unable to apply critical thinking to what they read.

Has the last one been shown to be not true?? Not what I've seen

Jo Cox's murderer would not be referred to as a lone wolf if he was not white. FACT

There's no houses because the government don't build enough fucking houses, immigrants or not

It's apparently not an interpreter as was initially thought, although his real identity has not been revealed. It could well be just some bloke that was out shopping or something, it is the Daily Mail after all.

One of the photos the telegraph had labelled as being in Croydon was proven as being in Calais by the person who took the photo

Actually it's not that many people, it's just that they are very loud and very insistent so it seems like a lot of people.

Other than that, spot on.

How did you reach that conclusion?

Most people are fairly run of the mill, I personally despise any kind of extremism. One thing that irritates me is liberals expecting people to have the same opinion as them or be despised.

Polish are to blame!

They love the jobs we hate.

I blame Chubbs  :)

http://order-order.com/2016/10/20/no-man-yesterdays-sun-not-interpreter/

Writing FACT doesn't make something a fact. If he was not a mentally ill lone wolf who else was he operating with?

If you have a hotel with rooms for 65 people then try to fit two more in, they have no where to go. Of course the government (or private companies) can build more housing, but it takes time, money and builders - you can't magic up houses. The population in the UK has grown at an alarming rate in recent years. It has had an impact on peoples lives.

isn't that mr muscle?

Fixed for you

Yeah but if you turned up at an inn, which was full and about to drop a sprog, you could always go and do it in the straw of the cow shed.

which is a polish, no?

Couldn't agree more.

I regularly work in Wales.  It's geographically a very big area yet just 3 million population.  Take away Cardiff, Swansea and Newport and there are just over 2 million living everywhere else.  There are vast areas of the country that barely have anyone living there. 

Contrast that with London and the SE of England. 

The problem isn't that the UK is full, it's that there's not enough investment in housing, infrastructure and jobs outside of the London and SE bubble.

slow day today

Fortunately, don't think that Britain is a place where any kind of extremism will ever flourish.

Normally a balance between centre left & right.
Hopefully this can still be maintained in the face of a right wing one party state for the foreseeable future.

The current bias of the media is a problem.
I read The Sun as its more educational than reading the views of people that I agree with week in week out.
The letters page is an eye opener. Editorial policy I know, but there are many people out there who would possibly welcome some kind of British version of the Third Reich.

My family arrived here in the late 40's early 50's as refugees with no home to go back to.
Usual mixed reception from warm welcome to bloody Poles go home. Probably much the same for new migrants these days.

Examples of bigotry in recent history, yes. The colour bar on employing bus drivers in Bristol and many other cities in the early 60's springs to mind. This was against a general background of discrimination against Afro Caribbean and Asian migrants.

Have we become more tolerant and welcoming as a nation since then, yes. Does bigotry still exist, yes, even if it's a much more subtle approach from its proponents.

On a more amusing note, some of my mum's workmates refused to talk to her after England failed to qualify for the 74 world cup. For anyone born after that era, then England were still shit at football even then. Some things have not changed over time.

Polski skleps are here to stay I hope.

England's defeat in Katowice in 73, has had a strange effect on the psyche of England followers......Poland's sole success in 19 games, yet they're perceived as some sort of Jonah team.

That's very true.
England have qualified for major tournaments at Poland's expense maybe a couple of times at least since then.
I'm assuming that the success of 1966 would still have been very fresh in most people's minds at that time and Poland had done nothing on the international stage up until then, so at the time it was viewed as a big upset.
Brian Clough also didn't help with his comments during the Wembley game.

Wobbly Bob, do I know you, or your family? What's your surname? PM me if you prefer.

This isn't fucking Tinder. Coming over here sticking to your own groups not mixing

Wobblzycz Bobska

So bigoted, as in more bigoted than other countries? Where exactly? Russia? America? France? Australia? The Middle East? South America? South Africa? I think in terms of tolerance I'd rank the UK reasonably highly on the table.


There are definitely thousands of people in this country who have some sort of misplaced anger towards immigrants because their own lives are shite. No doubt about that. But it can’t be any more than any other country.


What doesn't help matters and does seem to increase tensions in this country; is that there seems to be an army of pompous left wingers ready to demonise anyone who wants to publicly suggest that our immigration system is anything less than ideal. They instantly want to lump them in to a category with the Britain First/EDL ‘Pakis are the reason I’m unemployed’ morons. It makes the whole thing a very sensitive subject and raises tensions when people think they have a legitimate point and are being condescended too.


Remember the whole subject has more coverage than it normally would at the moment too because of the Brexit vote. I think one of the main reasons of the leave vote was because the EU has free movement of people and therefore fewer restrictions or track on who is coming in. The media know this and it’s a red rag to a bull for them to do whatever they can to feed in to this and create hysteria because it’s good for selling papers.


In reality though, it’s not that bad. Look at America for example. They currently have a reality TV star that has made it to essentially the final two in the race to win their presidency election and the majority of his campaign is fed off of fear of Muslims and building a wall to keep the Mexicans from out because people in the south of the U.S think they’re being taken over.  The UK is what, 10 times more densely populated than the U.S? More? How irrational is that!?

Yeah, but it was the beginning of the end for Sir Alf & Bobby Moore.

Also the draw at Wembley that effectively knocked us out of the World Cup.

Those memories somehow linger longer than Lineker's hat-trick in 86 & countless other thrashings that we have dished out since

Even more baffling considering every white American is descendent from European immigrants and the country was founded on immigration.

Racist ;)

Top post above though ^. And I don't think asking the question "why is Britain so bigoted" immediately implies it's the most bigoted place ever. There are of course going to be worse examples. But that doesn't make concerns about us less valid.

The majority of the bigotry I see is just a kind of disillusionment. One of my posh friends from uni told me I should tell my (significantly more working class) friends they'd be worse off for voting for Brexit. I had to explain to him that privately educated people, who've never wanted for anything, telling them what to do while they're unemployed and struggling to make ends meet is not going to solve anything, and is part of why they voted that way in the first place.

You have to respect people's views might make you uncomfortable, you have to consider people's circumstances, you have to listen to them. If they don't you just develop an Us v Them mentality, which is where bigotry thrives.

I totally agree.

My nephew has to wait until his girlfriend's grandma dies before he can marry her because they are worried that she will get someone to kill them.
Because she's an Indian Hindu and he's a white Englishman.

Bigoted lot the English

What lies has Lineker supposed to have said about immigrants, and since when has the sun the truth anyway?

Of course,something litle considered when asking "why is Britain so bigoted ?" is the historic ethnic and religious bigotry that immigrants bring with them and are unable to leave at the front door before often passing onto their kids.

This is further compounded by allowing the establishment of more and more "faith" schools.

Think you meant to say this Reg. There's some bigots in every group in society.

Fair enough, but the point still stands.

I've heard several white americans use the phrase "Eurotrash". What's that all about?  :sherlock:

Antoine de Caunes and Jean-Paul Gaultier. + Mr Penguin and the late Lolo Ferrari  :(

Eurotrash Girl by Cracker. If I wasn't on my phone, I'd attach a link to YouTube.

I actually heard someone on the radio suggest that the country here (USA) was full.  It's exactly the same language being used by people - essentially about people taking their jobs etc.  The reality here seems to be small towns get ruined when large local industries move out, so you get the same sense of a complete lack of hope in those areas.  Australia is going through the same right now - didn't someone just get elected entirely on the "get them out of the country" line?  Another country defined by immigration, not to mention a horrific past with indigenous people.

Yeah I know it's The Guardian but this is an interesting read regarding the culture of permanent offence which seems to have infected the country..... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/21/sack-gary-lineker-tweet-the-sun-culture?CMP=share_btn_tw