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Don't think I've ever started one of these so here goes.
Rochdale are a team I admire a bit. They've got a manager who I would be very happy with if he rocked up at the CG. Given their resources they are overachieving. They are normally organised, play good football and know when to kick their opponents and tactically astute - remember they were the first team to let Fods up to the half way line. In essence pretty much everything we are not.
Apart from a Gladwin inspired visit to Spotland they do seem to have the beating of us recently having been unable to do so for over 100 years.
As for us.......well, its bad at the moment. Will it continue, probably for another few days at least. The only hope I can see given Rochdale's form is the football gods doing us a favour because our players and coaching staff appear unable to do so.
I expect a 4-1 defeat in front of a 5862 with 117 whippet lovers.

Worth a try!

I'm going for a 2-1 defeat tonight with an encouraging performance and 6347.5 fans. For some reason I can't put my finger on I'm kind of looking forward to the match, not felt like that most of the season - I'll give it until 7:50 before it wears off :)

Thing we'll get a draw.

1-2 defeat.

2-0 win!

Another solid 0-0

we wont score

the prospect of losing at home to Rochdale is a pretty depressing thought but I can`t see it any other way except possibly a draw but again I don`t see where our goals are coming from this season so this could be 0-0 best case or 0-2 at least....not normally so pessimistic at this stage of the season so am up for a surprise win - please

1-0 Murray.

1-0 win as the the dull but effective revolution gathers pace and all the moaners can start moaning about something else.

I've a lot of time for Keith Hill and the Dale. Yes, just the sort of boss we need. 

There's been a lot of problems for the good people of Rochdale to contend with in recent times...a crying shame for the place that gave us The Co-Op, Gracie Fields and Lisa Stansfield, so if the club can do something to bring a bit of community back, all well and good.

0-0

Can't wait!

I've got to put some butter on the cat's boil so am unable to attend.

The sort of game everyone expects to lose. I've bet on us losing 3 times this season and we've fucked that up 3 times, so I'll have a sneaky bet on Dale to work the magic again!

One year on (almost to the day) and I fear we will repeat the 'achievement' of a fifth straight home league defeat:

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/StatAttack/MatchSequence.asp?StartYear=2015&StartMonth=8&StartDay=29&EndYear=2015&EndMonth=10&EndDay=20

 :(

5-0 rochdale williams out power out.

 :doh:

No wonder our players are confused listening to this gobbledy gook.

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/williams-on-rochdale-test-3369374.aspx

Yeah. Referring to Spotland as the Crown Oil Arena is confusing me.

I just read this as Keith Hill has been there a while developed his players and its now paying results - ie leave me alone and it will come good as long as we stick together.
The second part is justifying the lack of physical presence in his team and effectively saying they've been kicked off the park in each game.  
Quite straight forward really. Not gobbledegook in my eyes.
in my view, the first part may or may not come good. I doubt it but a couple of wins and I would happily change my view like most fickle fans.
As for the second part, its part of the game and when you have a disciplinary record like ours its difficult to moan too much. I'd love to have a proper hard man in the team. Most teams are able to balance beauty with the black arts. Under Ardiles and Hoddle we had a few who could kick the player as well as kick the ball.

What's wrong with what he said?

Away at Newcastle with work so will miss the long awaited home victory.

A draw would be good with Dale on fire!!

It is a bit Brentesque, but only to be expected. Hopefully we stick with 4-5-1 tonight and set up for a point in the hope of nicking something. Given the situation we're in fully justified.

I liked this quote, “They try to work out what’s best for them and they change players’ positions a lot to see if they can come up with the perfect system.

I was under the impression the majority of managers do this :sherlock:

I can't remember the last league win under lights, hope tonight is an exception but I'm not very optimistic. A draw would be fine for me.

Fair comment but we cant keep on saying a draw will be fine tho.we have to win soon

..........but please don't start until tomorrow.

TOWN STARTING XI | Vigouroux; Furlong, Thomas, Thompson (C), Brophy; Rodgers, Smith; Goddard, Murray, Iandolo; Delfouneso.

#STFC 🔴⚪️

are they making up names for the subs bench?
TOWN SUBS | Henry, Barry, Georgaklis, Evans, Ouldridge, Twine, Norris.

#STFC 🔴⚪️

Nice to see Smith start a game.

I forget. Is Kasim suspended?

Yes

a bit on georgaklis, signed from Man(ly) united

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/georgaklis-looking-emulate-luongo

ha, I didn't even notice! and yes it is.

That is a nice piece on him, never heard of him before TBH.

Manly Utd always makes me chuckle :)

yeah, his named skipped me by too.

Blimey, it is very quiet.

I loved him in West Side Story

Who is on Co coms on bbc wilts ?

Boom
One nil

Cracking finish :pint:

s-weet

1-0 Furlong.

Doughty.

Ah cheers

whoever it is could send an insomniac to sleep :zzz:

Hes normally a very very good commentator, 4th game this season I think he has done comms for us.

Ooh i had a pound on furlong 14/1 .double whoop

Cunt

fucking hell!

Fonz
2 nil fuck me

Cracking finish  :pint:

2-0 Fonz

That could be such an important goal, for so many reasons.

Blimey...

Nearly 3 with a header from Goddard.

Fuck me, I thought my BBC Sport App was broken for a minute.

Quite like their kit.

er right, they've created nothing, we have looked relatively dangerous. I'm shocked. good shocked

A good solid 4 at the back and playing a more direct game with through balls being played rather than constant passing and is working a treat.  Look pretty dangerous going forward now, positive half!

14 games to come up with a successful system.just in time hopefully

Blimey. Yay.

FFS Pen to them

viiiiiiiiigs :)

Saved

This is all going weirdly well

Bye bye lawrence in january!

Blimey. Haven't gone tonight and only just checked the score, as have been at an assessmwnt evening at my son's school. Perhaps I should stay away more often! Vigs saves another penalty.

Oldham beating Scunthorpe, Peterborough beating Northampton, Coventry beating Pox.

Maybe it's a night for strange results..

I don't like this. its all a bit scary. :D

baffling sub's, injuries?

hahahaha furlong, genuius  :)

Red card....and its not us!

Furlong booked so out of Saturdays game and Bunney sent off for Rochdale.

he's only on 3 scoring to the fa website (now 4)

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/suspensions/clubdiscipline?league=32&club=10631221 (http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/suspensions/clubdiscipline?league=32&club=10631221)

fa site probably wrong mind

did the ref tell him to hop it

Oh I hope so.

Hes was giving him rabbit ;)

that bugs him?

3-0 Thompson

Can somebody please confirm that we are playing in red tonight?

Okay, I believed you until now but you've pushed your luck too far there.

With the amount of strange things that have happened tonight, let's get dorris a goal

att 6048

It was one of them ;)

3-0 against the form team in the league, cant argue with that, well done, sounded like a very good performance all round.

2 clean sheets and positive results since a change in formation. Hopefully this means Luke has cracked it. Hopefully.

PLEASE can we now ditch the 3-5-2?!

3 shots on target, 3 goals. 0 corners. Playing against a team that had won 7 on the bounce.

I'm expecting the phrase "suspicious betting patterns" to be reported by tomorrow ....

Williams:
- Please for players. Derserved it.
- Hard work and concentration
- Impressed with players after clean sheet
- They have got 18 out of 18 points. They didnt play badly. We played well
- Prefers criticism on him not on players. Doesnt do social media. Been told hes not popular at the moment
- Whoever scored the first goal (didnt hear) adding to his game all the time
- Fonz doesnt get found enough. Good run for the goal.
- Vigs. Only thing that worries Williams is that if he keeps doing this we'll lose him
- Vigs has matured and grown up a lot. Have to stop being the joker sometimes. Have to be pro and focussed all the time. Think he is doing that now.
- Flash point. Furlong and whoever was sent off. Williams not commenting.
- Lose Furlong at weekend. Barry is coming back.
- Smith came in for Kasim. He'd earned Williams trust and respect.
- Aussie on the bench. Talented boy who's committed and trained well. Good experience for him.
- Always want to give opportunitites
- Jake Evans came on when game was still live. Pleased that he played well
- League is very tight still.
- FA Cup. Tough as they have a lot of experienced players. For some it will be an extra boost playing against a league team
- Not jumping through hoops. Doesnt get too caried away when we win or lose. He tries to be professional and even handed.

Luke Williams this evening

(http://i.imgur.com/b7ceroC.gif)

Well that was a pleasant surprise, forgot there was a game on.

could anybody that went tonight, confirm that we were more direct than normal?

If so, is this an admission that pussie football doesn't work?

Well done to the team. I didn't think they had it in them.

Great performance from a young and enthusiastic side.

Iandolo, Brophy, Vigs, Smith and Delfouneso were excellent, Murray ran his socks off.

We played with desire, urgency, broke forward with pace and took our chances well.

Great finish by Furlong for the first, superb through ball by Thomas for the 2nd.

Enjoyed that, surprisingly! 😄

I didn't see that coming bt that was a cracking performance. 4 at the back and a lot less fucking around at the back made a big difference. Combine that with a midfield that put in challenges, fought for the 2nd ball and had energy and hey presto. Smith was bloody excellent today. Him and iandolo in the first half made a massive difference from the shit served up so far. Both of them, bags of energy, putting their feet in and generally being a pain in the arse with a bit of skill.  Fonz has got an engine on him and good finish for his goal. Furlong looks very strong on the right and a great finish from him. Vigs just keeps getting better. He was a goal every other game fuck up for most of last season but he looks excellent. Nobody had a bad one today.
Life is looking a bit better today and roll on Saturday.

Well, well, well. That was unexpectedly enjoyable, a brilliant win.

Firstly the back 4 were excellent, Thomas has his best game for us that I've seen. But equally importantly the midfield showed some bottle.

It may have been his first league start but Smith showed some bite, Llando ( :) ) too, in fact all of them competed for the ball in a more physical way than home games of late.

Up front I've talked about the Fonz previously poor goal record. The guy absolutely ran his nuts off tonight for 90 minutes. You couldn't ask for a more committed performance, and he got his reward with a well taken goal running onto the through ball. I dislike one up front, but tonight it worked well. It looked to suit him and he revelled in the role. What do I know!
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Oh yeah, our "mong idiot fans", they must have stayed at home tonight, because although most were fearing the worst there was a general positivity around the place tonight. Amazing what a good performance can do.

Obviously Rochdale had a spell in the second half. Great save from Vigs from the penalty to touch it onto the bar, but we competed well. And when Furlong kicked their player taking a throw in, the retaliation was always going to end in one way if the lino saw it.

Actually to be honest the ref blew for everything, and was a bit of a homer. So we got protection and a few lucky free kicks which helped. But to say he was Rochdale's downfall would be a massive disservice to an excellent team effort.

Have we turned a corner, far too early to say that. But its a good night for sure.

If it were me, 4 at the back stays. Being more direct stays.  Kassim can watch and wait to earn his place back. Ditto Branco. They've earned it.

Any news on the whereabouts of BOO?

I thought he was injured (unspecified)?

He posted on twitter post match :)

Very surprised. Everyone fought hard to get the ball back and the effort was rewarded. Murray and Fonz never stopped chasing. Smith equally so. You could tell though as they looked knackered after 65 mins so fitness is clesrly still an issue.

Rochdale are technically terrible. Very much a kick and rush team which we have really struggled with this season so nice to see us deal with it and get a very good win against a team in form.

Use it to kick on now!

Nice place Manly, great ferry ride from Sydney Harbour. Not heard of him before either, better do a bit of utubbing or whatever it is.

Would be foolish to change from 4-5-1 after tonight, clearly the right system for our players, left the in form team in the league resorting to trying to kick lumps out of us.
Ultimately as well as Thomas has played if we get Jones back in alongside Thompson to dominate in the air a little more then we suddenly look a much more solid unit with the 4 and seems to suit Thompson as well. Almost back to the McCormack/Flint style that worked well under PDC.
Kasim is now the big question mark, tonight highlighted to me how much he slows the game down as without him things did move forward a lot quicker. As good a technical player he is, he's very difficult to fit in a team.

Finally said it before and will say it again Vigs is best keeper in the league by a mile and as a pure keeper i.e. Shot stopping and command of his box is in my opinion better than Fods, agility wise Vigs is second to none. Obviously Fods had good distribution as well which is where Vigs needs work.

Took a mate today who hasn't been for a couple of years, on the way up I told him to expect a slow paced, boring game, with a defensive error gifting Rochdale a goal or 2, I really sold it to him.
Brilliant to be proved wrong, great performance, everyone worked hard, especially Delfounseo. Good to see Smith and Iandolo get stuck in.
My only criticism would be there were probably a couple of times an earlier pass would have created a 1 on 1 opportunity.
Hopefully Williams keeps the same system this weekend, keep Kasim on the bench. It would be nice to get a few wins on the bounce.
Vigeroux is getting better and better.
A good evening.

Forgot what a home league win feels like. Great effort from the boys.

Same again Saturday would be fantastic.

Pleased for Fonz. Worked hard every time I've seen him with his runs off the defence never paying dividends as we never tried to play him in with our tendency to over complicate.

Very satisfying win. No one had an average or below game.

Vig's form is off the chart at the moment.

Chalkie's knows what he's doing Saturday morning now.

Ajose unused sub tonight...get him back to the only club he appears to do well at.

Shame its taken massive pressure from the supporters to bring about the changes that Williams made to the formation and style of play tonight, but better than that than a continuation of the dross that has been served up for so long.

Good solid performance tonight. We looked comfortable in all areas and beat an outfit that have been doing the business for weeks on the trot, so it's a good night for all.

Hadn't clicked till saw bbc stats that we went whole gamw with no corners. Also that a free kick led to a goal. Well finished by Nathan T from good Thomas free kick.  Delfonso was superb tonight. Some superb skill and absolutely worked his nuts off. After Furlongs neat finish opened the scoring it was like watching a different team. You could literally see the confidence flooding back. Not sure whether we looked less like a team who had lost the last 4 league games at home than they looked like a team who had won the last 7 but after Vigs saved his 2nd penalty in 4 days they really lost it. One of those rare days when things went for rather than against us but after a slightly nervy start a thoroughly deserved 3 points

Don't think it has anything to do with pressure from supporters, more needs must from a personnel perspective, will be the same on Saturday for sure but whether it remains the same beyond that is the question.  

Sometimes managers stumble upon systems that work at clubs, lets hope that whatever the reasons Williams has found a system to suit us.

As for the game, excellent commitment from the lads tonight, don't think I heard even a dig at Rodgers so it must have been decent.  

Said after QPR that we have some very promising young players, Smith and Iandolo can be very pleased with their efforts, particularly the latter given that's near as damn it 180 minutes in 4 days, I wouldn't have been at all surprised if he'd have got man of the match to be honest, I thought he was excellent, it was right that Fonz got it though really as his effort was first rate and he took his goal well.

Vigs is as good as you'll see at this level for sure.

Found a shitty music youtube on Georgaklis. Seems tidy on it, rarely more than 2 touches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY7XjzZONtM

 Fans walking around with glazed expressions tonight.

I noted before the game that our leading on the pitch all time  scorer  was Anton with 4, and wondered if we'd ever fielded a side with a collective total of 10? Maybe our first few FL games back in the 1920...although a 9-1 win v Luton in the first game meant it wouldn't have lasted long.

In my opinion, Kasim not playing tonight was the reason that we won. Play going forward was quick and decisive and Rochdale were not allowed time to regroup and get men behind ball when we attacked. We should concentrate on developing the team that started tonight with the addition of Doughty and Jones to squad when fit. Four at back and less short balls from keeper made big difference. Free kicks were on target or delivered into the right areas for our players to attack.
Coaches, please please teach Brophy to kick with his right foot.

What a pleasant shock.

Pen saved again...maybe we are getting the green rub at last!

Hopefully kick on to Saturday.

Highlights here:

http://www.skysports.com/football/swindon-vs-rochdale/358829

Hopefully Williams sticks with this formation and keeps Iandolo, Smith & Brophy in the side as these young lads add a bit of fight, pace & energy and earned their place in the first XI last night.

Roll on Saturday. Walsall haven't won away from home yet this season, so we all know what's gonna happen :)

Fifth clean sheet is not bad, compared to one at same stage last season.

Have a feeling that we'll go back to three at the back once enough people are available.
Also wouldn't be surprised to see Kasim back in on Saturday.
Some interesting decisions coming up for Williams.

I still only have furlong on 4 yellow, missing one from somewhere

Yep, whatever my wife tells me.

Was he booked during the abandoned Rovers game? I recall reading somewhere that yellows still count from abandoned games.

I thought Furlong was terrific and that back four should be kept together where possible. No player had a poor game in my opinion and it was great to see the ball moving forward whenever possible.

Good result that was. Table is so tight still. Only 6 points separates 5th to 21st.

ooh, that's an obscure but good thought!

I can assure you that the pressure from you and any other "supporter" will not in the slightest effect what Luke Williams does with that side.

The game - sounds like Thomas was imperious again. Really impressed with him at AFCW. With Jones back and the switch to 451, we should see Branco down to 4th choice at last.

Get Doughty back in at 10, Murray alongside Kasim or Rodgers (or Thomas) at the base and Stewart back to provide another more direct option out wide and this can work...

It's entirely possible as Ardley said that opposition are a bit confused by us not playing 3-5-2, having the flexibilty to change formations mid game is ideal, or changing to suit opposition from the start.

As Chubbs pointed out very tight league atm. Worth a litle snigger to see Millwall below us, looks like the ground thing might be getting to them, the pink pig pair, are still underachieving, despite Cov's first home win last night and Oxford who expect the league in the bag by Christmas, such was their spend on forwards, have the same number of goals as us.

Kind of disagree there. It's worked because there is energy in the middle with the youngsters so i would genuinely drop kasim for a bit,he slows us down. Doughty in Goddard role i agree with.

100% this.

As good as Kasim is, he doesn't fight for the ball. Smith was throwing everything in to win the ball back and that makes a huge difference in that area of the pitch.

Smith to start on Saturday. Bring Kasim on later

The team that has kept two clean sheets and collected 4 points deserves to start again at the weekend. Everyone else can wait.

Special mention by the way for Rogers who put in a brilliant free kick for Thompson to nod in.

yup!

It was a smashing free kick but Rodgers only had a decent game because Smith & Murray were busting a bollock so he didn't have to.

Which is fine if that's their roles right? Xavi Hernandez wasn't exactly a big one for busting a bollock but Busquets did it for him so that worked. If you have a midfield three you can afford one of them being a bit more of a relaxed ball player, which is one of the reasons Kasim's always looked better in a three.

The argument for me is whether Kasim would do better in the Rogers role because I don't think you can play both. Delighted to see Smith getting a chance though.

I agree to some extent, hence ultimately I'd play Murray in there to provide that energy. Away from home, as we saw at a very good AFCW (great away win for them last night), two strict holding players can work but at home, Murray in there would give that energy and mobility. It's where he played very effectively for Watford in the Championship too.

Think he probably meant that Rodgers was still rather wasteful last night and didn't chase his own mistakes. It worked because the other midfielders (and in fact a lot of the team) were giving plenty of chase.

Whilst it was a good performance, Rochdale were really bad which helped. I'm cautious as to what this one game could mean for our season :)

It's all about getting the balance right, so that the whole becomes greater than the sum of its parts. 3-5-2 or 4-5-1, has the problem of available personnel.

I'm not convinced that you can get away with Brad Barry and Brophy in a 4. We may find out Saturday, also there is little point in pairing Norris and Delfouneso up top, however ND and SJO might work.

As things stand Luke would be daft to revert to 3-5-2 for Saturday.

Agree, going back to 3-5-2 would be a big mistake but I think Luke is smart enough to know you don't change a formula which is working. Not sure why he'd put Barry in ahead of Furlong at the moment either.

Also given Jon's injury rate atm I doubt we'll see him much this season.

Furlong is suspended Sat, so Barry will come back in, his attacking play can be OK, but not a natural defender. SJO needs to be playing , so that he can get his move, either in the window or the summer, so may recover.

still don't think he's suspended. where did that come from, BBC wilts or Williams?

fa have him, Barry and Thomas on 4, updated after last night.

We may have just made them look bad.

I know what you mean though, it's too soon to say we've turned the corner and what not.

Tweeted the club about this. I'm only counting 4. Chesterfield, Shrewsbury, Rovers and last night. He wasn't booked for QPR in the cup game against us.

I guess rich and his abandoned games count theory is the only possible one, other then being wrong. perhaps the fa can't cope with that!

Abandoned Rovers game counts.  Annoying that if you score it gets wiped off if you get a card it counts.

Just watched the highlights, 3 very good goals all well executed for the finish and set up.

Vigs only just touched the penalty (if at all) but he will claim it as a save but in truth it was a shit penalty.

The sending off was a little soft but you can't retaliate so he had to go.

Glad to hear that the (younger) youngsters did well tonight, Smith sounds like he had a stormer. I hope he keeps his place although LW does like to blood the young ones very gradually when there are options available.

if this is right, he wasn't booked in floodgate

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37139030

He wasn't booked in that either

Think people are going over the top a bit with smiths performance. He didn't shit the bed but I didn't think he had the look of someone good enough for an extended spell in the side (yet)

I thought I saw somwhere Luke saying Furlong wasn't available Sat and Barry would come back in. Perhaps I dreamt it

Think you are in the minority there.

Rogers charged near on 40 yards near the end to hassle the defender. I'm usually his harshest critic but he did alright last night to be fair to him

Yeah, I accept that. He ran around a lot but didn't look strong enough for that role

Said to my mate it reminded me a lot of an early Louis Thompson performance

It is a small minority but I'm in it too. Lots of great stuff, solid passing, tracking, tackling even - particularly in the first 20 minutes. However, for me, he didn't always correctly shut down the passes into players behind him and was sometimes on his heels once he got into a pocket so missed the ball.

As the game went on he also faded physically and started to misplace a few simple passes and struggled more as Rochdale matched up formation wise putting an opponent in front of him.

Obviously that is being very critical - it is a great start for a very young player. Not sure about asking him to do it every single week. Yet. Soon he will be a mainstay of the side.

Keith Hill was singing the praises of LV on Rochdale player after last nights game, well worth a watch

Smith did very visibly tire and was much more effective in the first half than second but he's been out for a while and it is to be expected. For me, though, what he did was get stuck in and was a total pain for their midfield. He gave us a presence which we haven't had. Its no coincidence having him there we won plenty of second balls. Basically, he did the dirty work that a lot of our players will not or cannot do. I'd keep him in there as long as he's fit.

This is the type of thing that stfc should be communicating as a good news type of story and the article shows how poor stfc communication has got under Messr Power

I do remember Georgaklis being mentioned. It was a bit of a 'thing' at the time as it was in the Aussie news as well. It was about the same time that Luongo was emerging as the 'darling' of Australia. His move was well publicised, particularly for a youngster. He was touted as the next Luongo, whom was still here at the time.

To say it wasn't communicated is just plain false but ho-hum, it's another stick to hit Power with.

A couple of people vaguely remembering something doesn't constitute a good marketing campaign. I'm normally well up on STFC related stuff, but that's the first i'd heard. No one is beating anyone with a stick, just saying it was muted at best and nothing since he signed until that over almost 18 months.

Reminds me (Rochdale link) of that Orrible little Perkins.

Maybe I'm wrong but I dont remember it - it's not about using it as a stick to hit Power with it's truth regardless communication has been poor, maybe with ASD now in the press officer hotseat we may see a bit more, but he will only be allowed to report what he is allowed to

People not remembering something does not mean it didn't happen.

Granted, I didn't recognise the lad's name at first but once I was reminded of who he was by the comms, then it all fell into place. It was well covered at the time. Not only here but also in Oz. Do people expect constant updates on all youngsters? I can't remember when that has happened under any of our previous owners.

Was there even anything much about the Thompson brothers before they broke into the 1st team?

I used to think Nathan was dogshit actually. Then in that 12/13 season he was different class.

Which one was it that continued playing in a game with a fractured leg?

But you do seem to spend every waking hour on the internet don't you Mr F.

I can't say that I remember, but I have an appalling memory.

I really should be spending more time in the pub, not doing so is bad for my health.

So we signed some young lad for his potential 18 months ago, and in that time he's featured once, as an unused sub, last night. And the club should have been running a marketing campaign around him? Am I missing something here?

Just looked at the extended highlights and the one that caught my eye was Iandolo - a little lightweight but plenty of pace and energy, moving the ball fast round the edge of their box. Don't know how that reflected his overall contribution, but it would be nice if the injection of youthful commitment and enthusiasm in the last couple of games shook us out of our rut. Would provide a nice little jolt to wake up the dormant Kasim too.

Yes context.. As i clearly upped the ante from a line in the programme.., Usually you (or I ) hear bits and bobs, to me and others he seemed to come out of nowhere.

impossible to see from this but was convinced vigs touched the pen onto the bar last night.

also I'd be pissed off at the sending off if i were a Rochdale fan, but I'm not so hahaha. rules are rules, not much different from vigs at the scum

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tUHmqcefdgA&feature=youtu.be

on one hand he's got a point, on the other -  deal with it bitch

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37703299?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Dunno, maybe you're more familiar with all the promising young prospects in the youth team, but to me I don't expect to necessarily have heard of all the young lads being pushed through to the fringes of the first team squad. Just pleased that they are. Seems to me this is a lad who's been brought in to develop, presumably is doing so if he's now pushing at the fringes of the first team squad and so all going to plan. Really don't see what the probem is.

If the club had made a massive song and dance when they signed him, or done a "One to watch" style feature in the programme last season and then he hadn't developed as hoped/expected, people would be complaining "What ever happened to that Aussie lad then?". Plus, not all young players deal with that kind of exposure well - some thrive on the recognition, others feel the pressure of expectation.

Was their bloke sent off for a second yellow?

I wonder if we are still trailing that 13 year old (at the time) from the Cayman Islands (IIRC) that PdC made a real "song and dance over" at the time, must be 16 or 17 now?

I am sure there are some articles online somewhere about it.

Here are the links...

http://www.ieyenews.com/wordpress/sebastian-is-living-the-dream/

http://totalswindonsport.com/2015/02/swindon-academy-scouting-in-the-caribbean/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/swindon-town-snap-up-13-year-old-3312816

https://caymannewsservice.com/2015/01/teen-player-secures-apprenticeship-english-club/

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/12077610.Tibbetts_is_the_latest_Town_Caymanian/

Sebastian Martinez.

Agree, kids are best left to develop quietly.  You get the odd one like Henshall who makes into the England U 16, so is bound to attract attention, but hasn't really done his career any good.

Talking of Alex Henshall...interesting tweet from him from a week or so ago...

https://twitter.com/AlexHenshall11/status/784809805626142721

Did he ever answer you Bobs Orange?

straight red for retaliation I think. didn't see a yellow ..

That's a bit shit, hardly did anything, but retaliation is anyways treated more harshly. Thinking about it, retaliation is always treated more harshly in life, too. Why is that?

Did he leave, was it Kilmarnock then?

All clubs have to face fixtures like this...

http://www.skysports.com/football/carlisle-vs-swindon/93042

that's the most ridiculous and tenuous attempt to criticise Power I've seen for a while, well done

Our lot were so disorientated Minge kept goal and Brez played centre half.

what a prick

I am pretty sure hes unattached to any club now and living back in Swindon.

Still only 22, needs to settle down and change his attitude a bit I think.

As if his Twitter profile says England International...  England U17 five years ago that would be.

it should also be unemployed professional footballer.

Didn't he have a go at one of the Thomspon's once?

Yeah someone suggested Louis Thompson was better than him and he thought it was hilarious.

Yeah he said he was a better player than Louis (while he was at Man City I think)

https://twitter.com/nathanstfc/status/464289752561483776

I drove to that game with some stranger I met through the old Loud and Proud forum. The kid was a bit of a weirdo.

As if getting beat 3-0 with Ben Tozer getting sent off wasn't enough, I got presented with a free hat by Sandy Gray and Martyn Starnes for my troubles.

It was a terrible game. Carlisle had a mobile scoreboard behind the terrace which even packed up and went home after about 50 minutes. I left not long after.

Comminges in goal and Brezovan at centre back? Now that would have been worth the journey.

Fitted right in with the L and P lot then. Quiet and Ashamed always had more class  :)

I'm surprised the Simon Cox / Brezovan centre back pairing wasn't that effective.

The Aljofree / Easton strike partnership was never the same after this game.

Sadly not, and it was a genuine non-piss taking question as well!

Seemed a very soft red, silly behaviour from Furlong but presume the player who was going to receive the throw in was going to be more or less through?

It looked like our passing seemed to be crisper and faster from those snippets. Delfouneso looked very happy to score and brave header from Nathan.

Positive signs for sure.

Iandolo looked good in the highlights

And a very good, virtually impossible to defend free kick from Rodgers.

Iandolo did very well. Lacking physically but put a shift in.

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The through ball to the Fonz was a thing of beauty.

certainly was. he's been crying out for that type of ball since he got here. but for the most part we'd plod, plod, plod. not so much yesterday though

I thought he was offside but the left back was deeper than the line and Delfouneso took advantage and finished well.

Reading the Rochdale forum, they seem like a balanced bunch. Loved this bit of a report (and he is, but probably because he's better than this league)

" I think their cult hero (bit of a showboating prick) keeper got a hand too it but it may well have struck the woodwork anyway".

Fwiw, didnt think it was a penalty, their player ran across Goddard and fell over, so no intention. And Vigs did save it. One of the benefits of a dog shit windows 10 pc, is it slowed right down when watching and he knocked it up 6 inches onto the bar.

bit of the interview from hill if this works, also balanced

http://youtu.be/4b454O2dX7k

Vigs is a bit of a dickhead but he's our dickhead.

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Fucking chomp chomp chomp.

Vigs is an absolute bellend. I would hate him if he wasn't ours.

I'm also of the opinion the penalty was soft. The guy was looking for it. Furlong wasn't happy about it and I think that promoted his bit of 'gamesmanship' towards their lad who got red.

 Something that's amused me, is that on Tuesday we played with 7 midfielders, seemingly more by luck than judgement, but could Luke have stumbled on something that Guardiola has long wanted....

This from Sid Lowe...


Maybe Luke is the genius that Power reckons, after all we can more than match the sort of comedy goalkeeper, defender mix up/leg dangling/falling over routines much loved by Pep and Luis Enrique.

Top bloke, best manager by a mile in the lower leagues for years now.

Will never get the big opportunity higher up the pyramid again though after his stint at Barnsley

Their lads red card has been rescinded.

on what grounds? he retaliated, no different from vigs at pox

3-0 win is all that counts but I'm surprised by that decision but not at all bothered... until one of our players does it and the appeal is unsuccessful, obviously.

This.

That is a surprise.  Furlong was naughty, but he retalited violently.  How on earth that could be anything but red I dont know. 

Baffling football league decision.  Should expect no less I suppose.

Give it an hour and the clowns will announce a 5 match ban for furlong knowing our luck.

Odd.

That's weird, but ideal.

We benefited from losing him for that game but now he's free to face our league rivals.

Always baffles me how people bay for the opposition to get carded when it's likely only going to benefit other teams when they get suspended and not us.

Said player will be replaced with another so 11v11 while he is suspended, with a significant amount of time left as per Tuesday we play 11v10.

Maybe something to do with the man advantage we would then have....

I meant yellow cards.

makes them less likely to get stuck in while walking the card tightrope

One of these days I'll say something and people won't try their hardest to prove me wrong ;)

Then it's because we'll no doubt get carded for the same offence 2 minutes later, or because we have been already, or because we have been carded for something that shouldn't have even been a foul 2 minutes ago.

It's built in, it's about winning battles every few minutes that add up to the 90, it's about lauding it over the opposition fans for 30 seconds here and there.  One yellow can easily become two very quickly, Dean Gorre is the finest example I've ever seen of this.

best.sending. off.ever

gorre that is

The Migs second yellow for the keepy uppy was memorable.

Paul Danson at his finest.

Does it at least get downgraded to a yellow? Otherwise Furlong is the only one punished for the incident

Their lad didn't deserve a red, though

Worst reffing performance i ever saw. He'd been concussed, at Palace I think, the previous weekend and didn't seem to have recovered. One bizarre decision after another. The opposition manager (who was it again?) got sent off for laughing at him. Surreal night.

Danson in the Dark, that night takes a bit of beating, and in all honesty I doubted I'd ever see worse, that is until Mr Breakspear v Bury a few weeks back.

Bournemouth away the year we got relegated under the Wilson / Hart combo probably comes down as one of the worst for me. The guy did nothing right all game.

What game/season was this?

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?Tab=Video&MatchID=20040111


I'd forgotten about his concussion, but it was like Basil Fawlty, meeting the Germans.

This was also the game which the TV series 'Brainiacs' tried an experiment to see how many people it took to start a Mexican wave.

I was thinking that, but couldn't be arsed to check, as it was a bit shit.

And they cheated too, there was an announcement over the tannoy.

Mike Newell I think.

James Milner....!

Rightly to be found in The Washbag, Hall of Shame, in at number 23 pop pickers.

(Are we allowed to link to things on there or will we get told off ?)

I'm sure you can, they have an excellent piece on a chap heading the ball in the crowd, too.

Was that the Dossevi disallowed goal that baffled everybody.....poor fucker.

My favourite booking was the Steve Finney 'dive' whilst on a stretcher......had his leg broken!! :)

Here you go - https://thewashbag.com/2012/12/13/hall-of-shame-23-the-brainiac-mexican-wave/

I don't think anybody remembers anything about that alleged incident. Or whether it even happened. Or anything about the bloke allegedly involved. Complete blank. Nothing. Nada.

 >:(