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Title: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 20:43:04
My laptop is now roughly three and a half years old. Its a HP Pavilion g6-2226sa. It has an Intel Core i3 3110 processor. 6gb of RAM, 900 GB storage. It still runs fairly quickly considering its age.

My issues with it so far are two main things. 1. The battery seems to be knackered and it needs to be plugged in constantly or it turns off and 2. some of the buttons have stopped working and I have to use the onscreen keyboard. So forgive lacking grammar at the moment along with the odd missing p, ' or 0.

The battery will most likely cost be anywhere from £35 to £50 plus then I'll have to pay someone to sort out the keyboard. What are the opinions of the more tech savy on here, what would you do? Might be a difficult question to answer until I get some quotes on a full fix but are your early impressions that I should pay to get these issues fixed or would I be better off in the long run just dropping £400 to £450 on a new one? Dont get me wrong Im not exactly rolling in it but Ive got some spare cash and I dont mind working out if thats what needs to be done.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 21:00:58
I'll be devils advocate and say keep if Windows 7. Don't care what anyone says Windows 10 is a downgrade, needs too much memory for running unneeded rubbish you can't ditch. So if buying I wouldn't consider anything less than 16GB ram which will up the price above your budget. 8GB doesn't cut the mustard in my opinion.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 21:05:27
I would say 8gb is more than enough, with an ssd. Even 4gb RAM is sufficient.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 21:28:04
Ive already 'upgraded' to Windows 10 on my current laptop. Silly me.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 21:30:10
If the laptop does what you want it to do, get it repaired. The keyboard will be about £25 and it's a half hour job to fit.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 05:23:50
I'll be devils advocate and say keep if Windows 7. Don't care what anyone says Windows 10 is a downgrade, needs too much memory for running unneeded rubbish you can't ditch. So if buying I wouldn't consider anything less than 16GB ram which will up the price above your budget. 8GB doesn't cut the mustard in my opinion.

You've said it before on here, but you're still wrong.



Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 07:30:11
Windows 10 is the best OS from Microsoft as long as its set up correctly, as Sippo says in a laptop 4gb is enough but to be on the safe side 6 or 8gb is ample and doubtful you will ever use it all, an SSD is the biggest upgrade for any system and will speed everything up.

I buy keyboards for laptops for about £15 and normally I don't even charge people to replace them as its a 10 min job at most.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pavilion-g6-2200-Black-Keyboard-version/dp/B0148WGYNW/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1474528790&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=g6-2226sa

Under £14.85p for yours.

A new battery for yours is £29.99.

The processor is as quick as anything in the £400 bracket already.

A 240gb SSD is £55 and fine for most needs and a 5 min fix...just a reinstall of the OS afterwards of course.

If that is the only problems with it then I wouldn't buy new just fix what you have for under £100 if you do it yourself, which is simple.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 07:41:52
You've said it before on here, but you're still wrong.



I think I've been around computer operating systems long enough to be able to spot a turd in emperors clothes so to speak. For the everyday person it's over complicated and bloated, and far less ease of use than 7 or XP. For higher end stuff yes it's better, but most people don't get to use those features.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 08:17:38
an SSD is the biggest upgrade for any system and will speed everything up.



They look so expensive though. I'll be looking at about 500 quid for 1TB which is half my current storage capacity. Or am I missing something? *Edit OK, seen a cheaper one for about £250, still a tad pricey though.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 08:29:47
As for Windows 10: The auto update pisses me off at times. It hijacked my PC for 2 hours the other night. Good job I was just working and not doing important stuff like gaming. It takes an hour or so faffing about once it's finished as well turning off the features that the update had turned back on again. I'm not a fan of faf.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 09:16:40
They look so expensive though. I'll be looking at about 500 quid for 1TB which is half my current storage capacity. Or am I missing something? *Edit OK, seen a cheaper one for about £250, still a tad pricey though.

Get a 250gb or 500gb one and use it for your OS and keep your standard for storage. Your PC will be stupidly faster.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 09:18:37
I think I've been around computer operating systems long enough to be able to spot a turd in emperors clothes so to speak. For the everyday person it's over complicated and bloated, and far less ease of use than 7 or XP. For higher end stuff yes it's better, but most people don't get to use those features.

How is it bloated and complicated? My use between 7 and 10 has not changed. Things are still where you expect them to be, if anything the search function makes finding settings a lot easier.

I think you just don't like change.



Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 09:21:29
Get a 250gb or 500gb one and use it for your OS and keep your standard for storage. Your PC will be stupidly faster.

That's an idea.

I need to get some upgrades/repairs done soon-ish anyway. I need a new motherboard so I had might as well get an upgrade while I'm at it. I also need to sort some better cooling out as my CPU fan sounds as though it's going to take off at times.

Gotta make the money first though.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 10:02:12
How is it bloated and complicated? My use between 7 and 10 has not changed. Things are still where you expect them to be, if anything the search function makes finding settings a lot easier.

I think you just don't like change.



There's an element of truth in that statement!


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 10:38:31
I also need to sort some better cooling out as my CPU fan sounds as though it's going to take off at times.

You sure it's CPU? Could be your GPU fan. I've still got a GTX650 and it is beyond loud on any modern game.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 10:41:48
Yeah, I had the same sound when I had my old GPU and when I was using the on-board card.

It might not even be heat that's an issue, could just be a noisy fan. Dunno really.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 11:23:36
Use this:

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

That will tell you if you have an issue with temperature. If it's staying cool, adjust your BIOS settings for quietness over performance.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 11:32:13
Cheers, I'll have a butchers.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 11:41:42
Windows 10 is the best OS from Microsoft as long as its set up correctly, as Sippo says in a laptop 4gb is enough but to be on the safe side 6 or 8gb is ample and doubtful you will ever use it all, an SSD is the biggest upgrade for any system and will speed everything up.

I buy keyboards for laptops for about £15 and normally I don't even charge people to replace them as its a 10 min job at most.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pavilion-g6-2200-Black-Keyboard-version/dp/B0148WGYNW/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1474528790&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=g6-2226sa

Under £14.85p for yours.

A new battery for yours is £29.99.

The processor is as quick as anything in the £400 bracket already.

A 240gb SSD is £55 and fine for most needs and a 5 min fix...just a reinstall of the OS afterwards of course.

If that is the only problems with it then I wouldn't buy new just fix what you have for under £100 if you do it yourself, which is simple.

Thanks mate, looks like this might be the best option for me.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 12:34:04
Yeah, I had the same sound when I had my old GPU and when I was using the on-board card.

It might not even be heat that's an issue, could just be a noisy fan. Dunno really.

Fans do start sounding a bit crappy after time. Might need a good clean of the heatsink.

Get a decent aftermarket air cooler if you haven't already. Will make things a lot quieter - standard heatsinks and fans only do a basic job.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: pauld on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 13:59:55
Fans do start sounding a bit crappy after time.
It's because they're always moaning or shouting "Get it FORWARD!"


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 14:13:47
It's because they're always moaning or shouting "Get it FORWARD!"

haha very good


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 14:17:54
Fans do start sounding a bit crappy after time. Might need a good clean of the heatsink.

Get a decent aftermarket air cooler if you haven't already. Will make things a lot quieter - standard heatsinks and fans only do a basic job.

I've had a look and they don't cost much at all, I think I'll just whack one on regardless.

I've not spent a penny in my machine since I bought it 3 years ago, so I suppose it's time it had some tlc.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: pauld on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 14:19:38
I've not spent a penny in my machine since I bought it 3 years ago
Well that won't do it any good for a start, probably a fire risk, not to mention unhygienic


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 14:21:06
You're on fire today, Davis.


Title: Re: Fix issues with current laptop or just buy a new one?
Post by: pauld on Thursday, September 22, 2016, 14:28:39
You're on fire today, Davis.
You (and many others) wish :)