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Title: Getting a dog
Post by: donkey on Sunday, May 15, 2016, 21:59:42
So, Mrs Donkey wants to get a rescue dog and she's found a place in Trowbridge caused Leash of Life. They rescue street dogs from Romania. I figured someone on here might know something about them. If you do, please let me know. Ta.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 15, 2016, 22:11:03
Definitely something dodgy going on. They're using the dogs as drug mules. FACT. Using actual mules as drug mules probably wont be quite so effective after all, plus, there are probably not many stray mules on the streets of Romania anyway. Ergo, they're using drug stray dog mules.

Get one. You get to have a new pet for a few days and once you get bored, you can cut it open for the bonus package inside.

Hope that helps.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: donkey on Sunday, May 15, 2016, 22:12:53
It helps greatly, Flash.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: RedRag on Sunday, May 15, 2016, 22:23:40
 ;)So British Rescue dogs are now losing out to Eastern European counterparts?


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Sunday, May 15, 2016, 22:27:16
I see a lot of posts about this charity/company on Facebook, probably as  I live out that way - good luck with the new wolf xx


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, May 15, 2016, 23:26:37
Got two dogs from Battersea.

Trip to the smoke but very good and don't do any of that come to your house for six weeks bollocks as others did when we checked them out.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Tails on Monday, May 16, 2016, 06:34:55
That sounds mega dodgy. There are plenty of places to rescue from however, such as blue cross and RSPCA. If you surf the web enough there's many dogs that need rehoming.

Or if you dont like your furniture go down the puppy route!


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Arriba on Monday, May 16, 2016, 07:51:03
Got our dog from the blue cross at burford. Best thing we ever did. I'd opt for a dog from there or the dogs trust as they really do their homework on the dogs and will know their temperament and history etc.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, May 16, 2016, 07:51:38
Check out SN1 Dogs in Swindon - they do a great job.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Ells on Monday, May 16, 2016, 08:42:54
You can have mine.
Bastard thing keeps waking me up at daft o clock because a leaf has fallen on the ground and she wants to bark at it.
She's very cute though.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Tails on Monday, May 16, 2016, 09:00:29
You can have mine.
Bastard thing keeps waking me up at daft o clock because a leaf has fallen on the ground and she wants to bark at it.
She's very cute though.

Nice. Mine used to bark at his own reflection in the oven door. We knew it was time to clean the oven when he stopped barking every morning!


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, May 16, 2016, 09:35:39
We have a House Rabbit that also gets spooked by literally fuck all i.e. his own reflection, a leaf, some one opening a window 2 miles away etc. But he just kind of wheel spins around on the conservatory floor, running on the spot but not getting anywhere, like something out of a Tom & Jerry cartoon - no barking, which is good...


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: donkey on Monday, May 16, 2016, 12:50:07
That sounds mega dodgy. There are plenty of places to rescue from however, such as blue cross and RSPCA. If you surf the web enough there's many dogs that need rehoming.

Or if you dont like your furniture go down the puppy route!

Many places rescue dogs from Romania, so I'd have thought it's fine, unless you know differently about them... If so, please say.

I asked on here as they are Trowbridge based so thought someone may know them.

Thanks for the advice on a puppy...that won't be happening!  Good stories from you, Ells and OST, too.:-)


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, May 17, 2016, 09:18:17
Many places rescue dogs from Romania, so I'd have thought it's fine, unless you know differently about them... If so, please say.

I asked on here as they are Trowbridge based so thought someone may know them.

Thanks for the advice on a puppy...that won't be happening!  Good stories from you, Ells and OST, too.:-)
Tails is just racist innit


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 17, 2016, 09:56:26
Can't stand those Romanian dogs you know me.

Either way Steve it's a great move. Although he was an absolute bastard as a pup (and still has the odd moment) and they can be hard work, it's a fucking great thing owning a dog.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, May 17, 2016, 14:49:12
Can't stand those Romanian dogs you know me.

Either way Steve it's a great move. Although he was an absolute bastard as a pup (and still has the odd moment) and they can be hard work, it's a fucking great thing owning a dog.

Cheers, pal.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: JayBox325 on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 09:36:20
Got two dogs from Battersea.

Trip to the smoke but very good and don't do any of that come to your house for six weeks bollocks as others did when we checked them out.

We got a dog from Battersea. Rescue dogs can be just as hard as puppies because of their nature. The dog we rescued was a stray in London for nobody knows how long. So when we got him he'd open all the cupboards, eat out the bin and on day one he jumped up on my lap and ate a pizza out my hand!

But as time goes by he got trained and learned how to act and he was a delight! :)

Definitely recommend it, but as long as it's from somewhere good.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: ReadingRed on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 10:54:25
We got ours from Many Tears Animal Rescue. They mostly rehome Irish dogs so they usually have terriers,  greyhounds and collies or, like ours, a mixture of the three.
Their dogs are fostered out all over the country, so you can see how they behave in a home environment rather than in the stress of kennels


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 11:33:28
We got ours from Many Tears Animal Rescue. They mostly rehome Irish dogs so they usually have terriers,  greyhounds and collies or, like ours, a mixture of the three.
Their dogs are fostered out all over the country, so you can see how they behave in a home environment rather than in the stress of kennels

So now its the Irish dogs coming over here to replace good old UK dogs, British dogs for British people, we won't get this nonsense when we get out the EU.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 11:58:12
So now its the Irish dogs coming over here to replace good old UK dogs, British dogs for British people, we won't get this nonsense when we get out the EU.

I'd have thought given particularly France's problem with La Rage (that's rabies to the uneducated) it would be a generally good idea to keep foreign dogs out.....but unsurprisingly given that governments can't even manage a licensing system these days, that doesn't seem to happen any longer.

The amount of out of control dogs on the loose, is getting beyond a joke. Even SBC, have had to respond to complaints about this at Lydiard.....but it seems that many dog owners just don't get the basic concept that it's incumbent on them to keep control of their cur in public, just like they don't get the health hazard to children from dog shit.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 12:56:06
I'd have thought given particularly France's problem with La Rage (that's rabies to the uneducated) it would be a generally good idea to keep foreign dogs out

Quote from: WHO
Several countries in Europe have been designated rabies-free jurisdictions: Austria, United Kingdom, Ireland, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, Switzerland, Portugal, Italy, Spain, Greece, Malta, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Czech Republic, and Iceland

So who's rabid now?


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 13:04:08
The amount of out of control dogs on the loose, is getting beyond a joke. Even SBC, have had to respond to complaints about this at Lydiard.....but it seems that many dog owners just don't get the basic concept that it's incumbent on them to keep control of their cur in public, just like they don't get the health hazard to children from dog shit.

Not a dog lover then, Reg? You seem to be tarring many dog owners with the same broad brush. I'd say the majority are responsible and are considerate about where they let the dog off the lead. As is always the way with these things, the problem minority is not representative of the majority.

I'm aware of the proposals at Lydiard and I actually think it's a good idea. I let my dog off the lead there at the moment, but only in the areas that are proposed as not being part of the restrictions.



Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 13:49:27
I'd have thought given particularly France's problem with La Rage (that's rabies to the uneducated) it would be a generally good idea to keep foreign dogs out.....but unsurprisingly given that governments can't even manage a licensing system these days, that doesn't seem to happen any longer.

The amount of out of control dogs on the loose, is getting beyond a joke. Even SBC, have had to respond to complaints about this at Lydiard.....but it seems that many dog owners just don't get the basic concept that it's incumbent on them to keep control of their cur in public, just like they don't get the health hazard to children from dog shit.

How do you define an out of control dog though? I let my dog off the lead when I take him to public parks generally, unless people are having a picnic as he may go and beg for it, but generally he isn't fussed by people and will try and play with the other dogs instead.

I've met plenty of other dog owners like that, who know when their dog won't be a dick. Some people seem to think dogs sniffing them are a nuisance.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 13:54:59
So who's rabid now?
Or just 30 years out of date maybe?


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 14:00:23
Or just 30 years out of date maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8RjPAD2Jk


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 14:16:07
Or just 30 years out of date maybe?

Actualités

Cas de rage chez un chien dans le département de la Loire

L’Institut Pasteur a confirmé jeudi 21 mai 2015, un cas de rage chez un chien de race « Bull Terrier » détenu Square Louis Huguet,dans la commune de Le Chambon Feugerolle, 42500



Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 14:24:53
How do you define an out of control dog though? I let my dog off the lead when I take him to public parks generally, unless people are having a picnic as he may go and beg for it, but generally he isn't fussed by people and will try and play with the other dogs instead.

I've met plenty of other dog owners like that, who know when their dog won't be a dick. Some people seem to think dogs sniffing them are a nuisance.

Plenty of dogs off leads come bouncing towards people, some people are nervous of dogs and some also might not like a wet nose shoved in their hand (or nuts). The owners might know whether a dog is well behaved or not but the general public won't.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 14:28:04
How do you define an out of control dog though? I let my dog off the lead when I take him to public parks generally, unless people are having a picnic as he may go and beg for it, but generally he isn't fussed by people and will try and play with the other dogs instead.

I've met plenty of other dog owners like that, who know when their dog won't be a dick. Some people seem to think dogs sniffing them are a nuisance.

Out of control means the dog is disobedient to its owner, if not on a lead, and even then many still do as they please because of weak owners.

As regards unwanted sniffing etc....dogs drool, as a natural process of digestion, but often because of problems caused in the interbreeding process, they drool excessively, said drool can be full of toxic material. Take it from me it is highly annoying to have to rewash a newly cleaned pair of decent trousers, because some mutt has uninvitedly dropped a load of drool on them, because the owner is lacking in the common courtesy to realise in public places dogs should be under control on leads.

Even worse are ther idiots who ignore signs up in parks saying.....dogs on leads, like in the Town Gardens, because there are loads of kids about in push chairs, who may find being sniffed by a large animal upsetting...and don't get me started on having to shift dog shit from the Croft before commencing a game of cricket....despite the no dogs allowed signs, except for guide dogs.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 14:33:03
Froggy, I believe there have been around 20 cases of rabies in France in recent years....OK not epidemic, but I'm sure there used to be regulations re dogs coming and going to France.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 14:34:17
Actualités

Cas de rage chez un chien dans le département de la Loire

L’Institut Pasteur a confirmé jeudi 21 mai 2015, un cas de rage chez un chien de race « Bull Terrier » détenu Square Louis Huguet,dans la commune de Le Chambon Feugerolle, 42500

55000 cases worldwide. 1 in France, a dog brought in illegally from Algeria.
Quote from: gov.uk
Authorities in France have confirmed that France has regained its rabies-free status.
Full details of the case here: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rabies-in-france-may-2015
 
But feel free to select the facts that feed your prejudice.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 14:35:38
Actualités

Cas de rage chez un chien dans le département de la Loire

L’Institut Pasteur a confirmé jeudi 21 mai 2015, un cas de rage chez un chien de race « Bull Terrier » détenu Square Louis Huguet,dans la commune de Le Chambon Feugerolle, 42500


Fair do's. I bow to your superior rabid chien knowledge. Although I note your emphasis on this as a French problem does nothing to dispel RF's general accusation of your Francophobia :D


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 14:44:17
We got a dog from Battersea. Rescue dogs can be just as hard as puppies because of their nature.
We had a rescue dog that had been battered and shut in a cupboard under the stairs by it's previous owners. Consequently he was terrified of being shut in any where and was constantly trying to escape. Which meant for about the first two months we had him, we couldn't let him off the lead or he'd just fuck off.

Our initial attempts to stop him from getting out of the cat-flap by locking it, led to him being spotted running across our neighbour's garden with the cat flap frame around his waist. And there was the time the missus rang me to say she was stuck in traffic on the bus on the way home so wouldn't be home for ages, so could I get home sooner and start looking for him. "Start looking for him?" "Yes, he's got out again" "Eh? Thought you said you were on the bus?" "Yes, he's just run past us!"



Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 14:57:39
We intend to train ours well. It won't enter a room first, only after Mrs Donkey or I. It won't bound up to people, either in a park or when they enter the house. I fully intend for it to trained as much as possible. I assume I'm not being native in this regard.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 15:02:17
We intend to train ours well. It won't enter a room first, only after Mrs Donkey or I. It won't bound up to people, either in a park or when they enter the house. I fully intend for it to trained as much as possible. I assume I'm not being native in this regard.

Careful though. As Reg has so amply demonstrated, you can't teach an old dog new tricks.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 15:10:46
I assume I'm not being native in this regard.
racist :)


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 15:15:35
Is it fair for a donkey to own a dog?


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 15:21:39
racist :)

I hate autocorrect. Stupid aunts.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 15:28:23
racist :)

Talking of racists, I'm delighted to announce that my petition to the European Court for Human Rights to ban Reg has now attracted a massive 6 (six) signatures.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/658/550/796/stop-reg-smeetons-merciless-racism-against-the-french-nation/

Though I'm not convinced that Donald Baumgartner of Montana or Isabel Araujo of Mexico were entirely sure what they were signing...


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 16:03:10
We intend to train ours well. It won't enter a room first, only after Mrs Donkey or I. It won't bound up to people, either in a park or when they enter the house. I fully intend for it to trained as much as possible. I assume I'm not being native in this regard.

Much easier said than done!  :D

This can depend on the breed and if it's your first dog. You should definitely look at a breed that's a bit more responsive. Some behaviours are easy to train (sit, lie down, paw, bed, stay) but things such as greetings and boundaries can take a lot longer as if you slip even once, so will they. It can be easy to slip too, even a "come here" and patting your lap to encourage him to jump means he'll keep doing it, so when you do address him, go down to his level.

That's what I've found works anyway, it may be different for different people!


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 16:08:16
Talking of racists, I'm delighted to announce that my petition to the European Court for Human Rights to ban Reg has now attracted a massive 6 (six) signatures.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/658/550/796/stop-reg-smeetons-merciless-racism-against-the-french-nation/

Though I'm not convinced that Donald Baumgartner of Montana or Isabel Araujo of Mexico were entirely sure what they were signing...

Yeah but one of them is yours....Donald probably thinks he's signing up for more racism against French people....I reckon I could talk Elizabeth round.  Joseph Priestley of Bowood or Antoine Lavoisier, discoverer of oxygen? Discuss.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 16:15:23
Yeah but one of them is yours....Donald probably thinks he's signing up for more racism against French people....I reckon I could talk Elizabeth round.  Joseph Priestley of Bowood or Antoine Lavoisier, discoverer of oxygen? Discuss.

Neither.

Quote
Isaac Asimov called him "hard-luck Scheele" because he made a number of chemical discoveries before others who are generally given the credit. For example, Scheele discovered oxygen (although Joseph Priestley published his findings first)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Wilhelm_Scheele


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 17:46:27
Can you all leave Reg alone,  he has managed to avoid blaming Thatcher for rabies, I know its not much but a small start.


Title: Re:
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 18:03:18
Can you all leave Reg alone,  he has managed to avoid blaming Thatcher for rabies, I know its not much but a small start.

Thatcher may have just about been gone by the time the Tories introduced their Dangerous Dogs Act....which is often regarded as being a poor piece of legislation.

However there are laws in place for dog ownership, which many ignore....

https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/overview


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 19:19:53
Much easier said than done!  :D

This can depend on the breed and if it's your first dog. You should definitely look at a breed that's a bit more responsive. Some behaviours are easy to train (sit, lie down, paw, bed, stay) but things such as greetings and boundaries can take a lot longer as if you slip even once, so will they. It can be easy to slip too, even a "come here" and patting your lap to encourage him to jump means he'll keep doing it, so when you do address him, go down to his level.

That's what I've found works anyway, it may be different for different people!

A very true post. I guess if we aim high and fall a little short, it'll still be good. I want his recall to be excellent however, that's something we must succeed at.


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 19:40:01
A very true post. I guess if we aim high and fall a little short, it'll still be good. I want his recall to be excellent however, that's something we must succeed at.

That can take a little patience, as even if you nail it indoors it is very easy for a dog to get distracted when he's out and about. For the first 18 months or so I had to clock my dogs attention before he noticed something he could run too! As long as you have patience and keep reinforming their behaviour (cheese and peanut butter work the best on my idiot) then you'll smash it!

In fact I forget you're a teacher, this should be a piece of piss!  :D


Title: Re: Getting a dog
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 20:19:24
That can take a little patience, as even if you nail it indoors it is very easy for a dog to get distracted when he's out and about. For the first 18 months or so I had to clock my dogs attention before he noticed something he could run too! As long as you have patience and keep reinforming their behaviour (cheese and peanut butter work the best on my idiot) then you'll smash it!

In fact I forget you're a teacher, this should be a piece of piss!  :D

Cheers for the advice... You do develop patience as a teacher, so I guess I can use that! But, yeah, keep at it, seems to be the advice.