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Title: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 10:58:30 Does anyone really care - God Save the Queen is a bit of a dirge but does it need changing are there not more important things to worry about?
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 11:00:09 They should change it to One Step Beyond.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 11:02:55 They should change it to One Step Beyond. What and make the teams dance as they sing it! :D Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 11:14:01 Oh yes.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 11:18:03 It will change anyway when Charlie boy gets his turn.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 11:19:22 How do you get one of those parliamentary questions for 100k signatures going? This needs to be actioned. (just let me start a pork pie hat company first)
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 11:25:27 And if not for the anthem, maybe we could get the rugby team to do it as our version of the Kiwi Haka?
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 11:40:51 How do you get one of those parliamentary questions for 100k signatures going? This needs to be actioned. (just let me start a pork pie hat company first) On it. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 11:52:29 I need 5 initial supporters to make it go live, please: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/118462/sponsors/VIyjo3A8iIkOb4Wm4O
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 11:55:46 OK, fixed that. The link above now is the right one. Not sure it will meet the petition standards though: -
Quote nonsensical, or a joke . I have a hunch they might suss me out. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:08:17 I need 5 initial supporters to make it go live, please: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/118462/sponsors/VIyjo3A8iIkOb4Wm4O You've got one, at least. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:08:20 I need 5 initial supporters to make it go live, please: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/118462/sponsors/VIyjo3A8iIkOb4Wm4O Done..... Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Summerof69 on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:09:19 I need 5 initial supporters to make it go live, please: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/118462/sponsors/VIyjo3A8iIkOb4Wm4O Done... Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:17:05 Done... this could be the ultimate TEF pressure group campaign.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:21:04 OK, fixed that. The link above now is the right one. Not sure it will meet the petition standards though: - . I have a hunch they might suss me out. I for one am entirely serious, is it anymore of a 'joke' that the suggestion it should be Jerusalem? Come on - 1 more and it goes live! Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:21:53 Done. But won't be able to get the validation email to validate it until this evening. So kind of half-done
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:22:43 Done and validated. In for a penny...
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:23:44 I have the 5 I need thanks, now to wait for it to be reviewed. It usually takes 'a week or less', apparently. Let's hope the reviewer is in a good mood.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:26:47 I for one am entirely serious, is it anymore of a 'joke' that the suggestion it should be Jerusalem? Come on - 1 more and it goes live! Is the Jerusalem suggestion part of the perition? I'm not signing that. Fucking dire song. And anybody who likes it is a fucking dick. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:28:33 Is the Jerusalem suggestion part of the perition? I'm not signing that. Fucking dire song. And anybody who likes it is a fucking dick. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-35296296 Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:32:17 Is the Jerusalem suggestion part of the perition? I'm not signing that. Fucking dire song. And anybody who likes it is a fucking dick. No way, One Step Beyond only. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:33:11 Urgh.
(at the article. One step beyond is a quality suggestion) Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 12:37:59 Signed
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 15:21:29 Is the Jerusalem suggestion part of the perition? I'm not signing that. Fucking dire song. And anybody who likes it is a fucking dick. Jerusalem is a brilliant anthem. Listen to the words. Nice enough place ('green & pleasant land') but definite room for improvement. So don't give up striving for that ('nor shall my sword rest...') until you've made it better still ('built Jerusalem...'). The sentiment in that is everything an anthem should be. Pride, but measured pride. And a battle cry to build a better world. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 15:39:09 Jerusalem is a brilliant anthem. Listen to the words. Nice enough place ('green & pleasant land') but definite room for improvement. So don't give up striving for that ('nor shall my sword rest...') until you've made it better still ('built Jerusalem...'). The sentiment in that is everything an anthem should be. Pride, but measured pride. And a battle cry to build a better world. When I was a kid at school in the 50's, we used to belt these tunes out in assembly....we still had some Empire left and delusions of grandeur. 10% of GDP was spent on defence. Suez and the pussillanimous response of the US to the Anglo/French invasion put paid to that....had the rule of law been followed and the canal which belonged jointly to the French and UK, after the Egyptians freely sold their shares, been kept in western hands, the world today might be a better place with JTR able to go on holiday. I did like Heart of Oak though....Jerusalem being a bit too religious fundamentalist for my taste. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Oak#Lyrics Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: 4D on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 15:48:43 Can't see this making 1k let alone 100k.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 15:57:30 Jerusalem is a brilliant anthem. Listen to the words. Nice enough place ('green & pleasant land') but definite room for improvement. So don't give up striving for that ('nor shall my sword rest...') until you've made it better still ('built Jerusalem...'). The sentiment in that is everything an anthem should be. Pride, but measured pride. And a battle cry to build a better world. Jerusalem isn't even in England Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 15:58:41 Jerusalem is a brilliant anthem. Listen to the words. Nice enough place ('green & pleasant land') but definite room for improvement. So don't give up striving for that ('nor shall my sword rest...') until you've made it better still ('built Jerusalem...'). The sentiment in that is everything an anthem should be. Pride, but measured pride. And a battle cry to build a better world. But in what is apparently (depends who you speak to) becoming an ever more secular society, the reference to Jerusalem doesn't actually mean a great deal? I always personally thought this was a good approach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9nnnM-__JQ Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 16:00:36 Jerusalem isn't even in England Hence building a new one, in England... Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 16:03:25 Hence building a new one, in England... Which is why I'm against....Jerusalem is a divided city between 3 fundamentalist religions, not the sort of thing we should be encouraging here. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 16:05:40 Can't see this making 1k let alone 100k. And did you think we really thought we'd get Sheena Easton in as manager ::) Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 16:13:43 And did you think we really thought we'd get Sheena Easton in as manager ::) Don't suppose there is any news re the petition? It needing to be approved rather defeats the idea the government like to peddle that you can have a petition and if it gets to 100k it may be debated, more you can have a petition - if we allow you to and then - if it gets to 100k we may debate it! Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 16:18:26 Don't suppose there is any news re the petition? It needing to be approved rather defeats the idea the government like to peddle that you can have a petition and if it gets to 100k it may be debated, more you can have a petition - if we allow you to and then - if it gets to 100k we may debate it! Could take a week Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: 4D on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 16:22:04 And did you think we really thought we'd get Sheena Easton in as manager ::) Well? :-[ Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 16:31:54 To anyone wavering, just imagine listening to this before an England Game, they could even walk out of the tunnel to it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOJSM46nWwo Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 17:05:17 Hence building a new one, in England... Down with those dark satanic mills! Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: RWB Robin on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 17:51:22 I think a few people need to do a bit revision on their English literature! Jerusalem is not about Jerusalem, nor is it anything to do with religious fundamentalism. Blake was areligious, and was of a radical political disposition. Essentially he was lampooning English nationalism, imperialism and the established church. It has only become popular because of the bombastic tune set to it some hundred years later by Sir Hubert Parry. And before anyone goes for Land of Hope and Glory, Rlgar, who wrote the music before any lyrics were set for it, deeply disliked them.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: janaage on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 18:06:55 Land of hope and glory would be a great anthem, GSTQ has to be one of the worst European nations anthems going. Everything about it is terrible.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: michael on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 18:11:56 Land of hope and glory would be a great anthem, GSTQ has to be one of the worst European nations anthems going. Everything about it is terrible. Agreed on Land Of Hope And Glory. It used to belong to American Wrestler called Randy "The Macho Man" Savage, but sadly he has died now so it would be okay for us to use it. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 19:41:02 'Land of Hope and Glory' is a great tune, but the lyrics are imperialist. ('Wider still and wider shall thy bounds be set; God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet.') Not really the right message for the 21st century.
For reasons above, I think 'Jerusalem' works much better. It's about self-improvement and recognising that - with a bit of work/effort - things could be even better than they are. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 19:54:24 Well is seems to me that One Step Beyond is clear favourite judging by the squabbling over those old shit tunes..
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Sir red ken on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 20:01:54 Seeing as the abolition of our current national anthem is just a commie ploy to do away with England altogether (Jack Straw the son of a ww2 coward said "the English are a race not worth saving") Should we change the English national to anything then it should be changed to.... I vow to the my country (Jupiter from the planets suit by Holtz) Wake up people your being erased from history by your own parliament.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 20:35:20 As a leftie can I just say I couldnt give a fuck about this issue. But just to wind you up this should be the anthem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjUA3RU4B8E Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 20:37:58 I think a few people need to do a bit revision on their English literature! Jerusalem is not about Jerusalem, nor is it anything to do with religious fundamentalism. Blake was areligious, and was of a radical political disposition. Essentially he was lampooning English nationalism, imperialism and the established church. It has only become popular because of the bombastic tune set to it some hundred years later by Sir Hubert Parry. And before anyone goes for Land of Hope and Glory, Rlgar, who wrote the music before any lyrics were set for it, deeply disliked them. A song isn't literature, silly! Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, January 13, 2016, 22:24:25 As a leftie can I just say I couldnt give a fuck about this issue. But just to wind you up this should be the anthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjUA3RU4B8E Thought you'd go for New England. Anyway, signed the petition. Should liven up the Trooping the Colour. Knees up boys! Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 14, 2016, 00:43:30 Thought you'd go for New England. Anyway, signed the petition. Should liven up the Trooping the Colour. Knees up boys! Don't suppose Something About England by The Clash could get the vote... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5-ZKMUpNl8 I miss Joe Strummer more than David Bowie... Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 14, 2016, 01:28:52 Don't suppose Something About England by The Clash could get the vote... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5-ZKMUpNl8 I miss Joe Strummer more than David Bowie... Is that because Strummer died years ago and Bowie days? Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: janaage on Thursday, January 14, 2016, 08:04:05 I'd prefer 'have you ever seen the rain' by Creedance Clearwater Revival, if people want modern music. That'd be a great national anthem before sporting events.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, January 14, 2016, 10:13:17 This is the real anthem for our age. The words could have been written yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txrILqlaUlE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txrILqlaUlE) Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 14, 2016, 12:48:00 Is that because Strummer died years ago and Bowie days? No just a music thing... Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: JanTheMan on Thursday, January 14, 2016, 15:46:40 Is the Jerusalem suggestion part of the perition? I'm not signing that. Fucking dire song. And anybody who likes it is a fucking dick. Agreed. Absolutely dire. Jerusalem just reminds me of unimaginative weddings. A bit like wedding cakes made of cheese and Moss bro suits. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Talk Talk on Thursday, January 14, 2016, 16:36:23 A bit like wedding cakes made of cheese and Moss bro suits. That sounds rather indigestible as well? Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: suttonred on Thursday, January 14, 2016, 23:39:28 No just a music thing... I grew up when punk kicked in. I was a punk. I still am in many respects. I never liked the Clash bar white riot. They always seemed to make and release stuff because they thought it would be popular. Most other punk bands didn't, neither did Bowie, no contest.. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Talk Talk on Thursday, January 14, 2016, 23:43:18 I grew up when punk kicked in. I was a punk. I still am in many respects. I never liked the Clash bar white riot. They always seemed to make and release stuff because they thought it would be popular. Most other punk bands didn't, neither did Bowie, no contest.. I have seriously just taken you off of my Christmas card list Sutton. HOW VERY DARE YOU DISS THE CLASH <cue Reg getting all big and uptight> Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: suttonred on Thursday, January 14, 2016, 23:59:15 Phew I hate Christmas cards. Did the old sprained wrist again this year, worked again, didn't write one :)
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Talk Talk on Friday, January 15, 2016, 00:03:19 Phew I hate Christmas cards. Did the old sprained wrist again this year, worked again, didn't write one :) Actually I have gone in another direction. I will have "Holiday" at the end of December from now. I'm going to get ordained as a minister soon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster) (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Touched_by_His_Noodly_Appendage.jpg) Adam does have a worryingly small appendage himself in that picture though? Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Talk Talk on Friday, January 15, 2016, 00:20:35 My religion is THE RIGHT ONE
Quote The Pastafarian conception of Heaven includes a beer volcano and a stripper (or sometimes prostitute) factory. The Pastafarian Hell is similar, except that the beer is stale and the strippers have sexually transmitted diseases. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Levi lapper on Friday, January 15, 2016, 07:04:25 I grew up when punk kicked in. I was a punk. I still am in many respects. I never liked the Clash bar white riot. They always seemed to make and release stuff because they thought it would be popular. Most other punk bands didn't, neither did Bowie, no contest.. A punk who doesn't like the Clash??? :doh: That's like a straight man not liking tits!!! Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 15, 2016, 08:50:08 Actually I have gone in another direction. I will have "Holiday" at the end of December from now. I'm going to get ordained as a minister soon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster) (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Touched_by_His_Noodly_Appendage.jpg) Adam does have a worryingly small appendage himself in that picture though? Pastafarianism is now recognised as an official religion in Poland, many have been touched by his noodly appendage. Ramen. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, January 15, 2016, 09:02:00 I grew up when punk kicked in. I was a punk. I still am in many respects. I never liked the Clash bar white riot. They always seemed to make and release stuff because they thought it would be popular. Most other punk bands didn't, neither did Bowie, no contest.. Back in the garage with my bullshit detector Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 15, 2016, 10:23:39 I grew up when punk kicked in. I was a punk. I still am in many respects. I never liked the Clash bar white riot. They always seemed to make and release stuff because they thought it would be popular. Most other punk bands didn't, neither did Bowie, no contest.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkyCrx4DyMk TBF, we're all different, it's music like what you want to, dislike what you want to. Just have an open mind. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: suttonred on Friday, January 15, 2016, 14:06:12 Yeah its a personal preference I agree. As for an open mind I drive the wife crazy, one week its bluegrass, next dub reggae, next death metal etc etc :)
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Friday, January 15, 2016, 22:18:15 As a leftie can I just say I couldnt give a fuck about this issue. But just to wind you up this should be the anthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjUA3RU4B8E Billy Bragg is actually an outspoken advocate of Jerusalem as the English Anthem https://www.billybragg.co.uk/press/story.php?ID=34 So stick that in your lentil smoothie Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 21, 2016, 10:46:16 These cunts still haven't got back to me yet.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, January 21, 2016, 11:28:15 It's like the bastards aren't taking you seriously.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 21, 2016, 11:33:29 The fuckers, this is a pressing matter.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, January 21, 2016, 11:34:39 They probably heard you were from Swindon and consulted the Football League.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, January 21, 2016, 15:49:42 I think the Clash just outgrew punk and are one of the very few that outlasted it and could survive after it was gone.
Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Talk Talk on Thursday, January 21, 2016, 19:42:22 These cunts still haven't got back to me yet. It's your IP address FH. Try it with a UK proxy. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 5, 2016, 17:56:38 Quote We rejected the petition you created – “Make 'One Step Beyond', by Madness, the new National Anthem.”. It’s about something that the UK Government or Parliament is not responsible for. This isn’t something that the UK Government or Parliament would be able to do. The use of the present National Anthem is a matter of tradition rather than having any legal or constitutional status. You can find more information about the history and status of the national anthem here: http://www.royal.gov.uk/MonarchUK/Symbols/NationalAnthem.aspx Click this link to see your rejected petition: View your rejected petition We only reject petitions that don’t meet the petition standards: https://petition.parliament.uk/help#standards If you want to try again, click here to start a petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/check Thanks, The Petitions team UK Government and Parliament They took their fucking time. What I want to know is that if it's nothing to do with them, why the fuck is matey boy wanting to debate having Jerusalem as the anthem? Bunch of cunts. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 5, 2016, 17:57:55 Quote However, Chesterfield MP Toby Perkins believes England needs its own anthem and presented his case in the House of Commons as a ten minute rule motion. And I want a ten minute rule motion on One Step Beyond, you bunch of posh twats. Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: adje on Friday, February 5, 2016, 18:03:01 Irish blood english heart.
"I've been dreaming of a time when the English are sick to death of Labour and Tory And spit upon the name Oliver Cromwell And denounce this royal line" Pretty much my sentiments Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 5, 2016, 18:20:52 They took their fucking time. What I want to know is that if it's nothing to do with them, why the fuck is matey boy wanting to debate having Jerusalem as the anthem? Bunch of cunts. Not 1 but 3 times I've had that email now the spamming bastards Title: Re: Change to the 'National Anthem' Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, February 6, 2016, 01:02:57 They took their fucking time. What I want to know is that if it's nothing to do with them, why the fuck is matey boy wanting to debate having Jerusalem as the anthem? Bunch of cunts. Bastards. They talked to the Football League I tell you. |