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Title: Martin Ling Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:32:10 Resigned due to health concerns.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:33:27 Has to be relapse of depression, all the best to him in his recovery.
Leads us to a very difficult situation. Not sure if there is anyone to employ out there. Could give Williams the job if he wants it. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: tj2002 on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:36:40 Oh for fuck sake
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:38:15 All the best Lingy.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:42:57 Wishing Lingy all the best...
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: donkey on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:47:46 Poor bloke, wish him all the best.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:48:14 What a shame.
All the best to Lingy. Back to the drawing board. Title: Re: Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:49:12 Awful shame but credit to him for recognising the signs. All the best Lingy.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:49:41 Sadly for him this probably spells the end of his management career. Can't see him getting another chance. Hopefully he should still find work in football though.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:53:52 He gave it a go, thought he might be alright.. clearly he wasn't.
If we do manage to stay up this season (we should) then Lingy has played a significant part towards that. Can't see him wanting to manage again. Club would not be willing to take the risk to employ him. First off hope he recovers well in the private world. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:56:50 Wish him all the best. Was doing a decent job here so its a shame.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 15:00:27 Everyone seems to be assuming it's a relapse into depression but could be anything, the sudden nature is what concerns me.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 15:06:35 Hope he's alright. Very worrying news.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 15:20:33 Terrible news for the guy, whatever the situation.
On the pitch, we've gone from relegation to mid-table fodder during his short time, and I'm grateful for it. With Lee Power appointing whathisface to govern the day-to-day, I don't expect a the pre-Ling series of events to repeat itself. Best of luck Lingy. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Stevens on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 15:22:52 How sad for Martin
Depression is such an awful disease - until a family member was diagnosed, I thought it was a load of bollocks. Now that outward person is so fragile and even scared to go out. It will not be a speedy recovery, so just all the best dear fellow, and I'm sure you will get support from family and those in the industry and our club. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Randle on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 15:24:30 He provided a shot in the arm when desperately needed and seemed to have steadied the team.
Whatever the reason for his departure I wish him well and hope to see him in and around football again. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 16:07:53 A real shame for him, hope he's feeling better soon
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Ticker45 on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 17:00:27 A great shame, obviously conjecture about the problem, just trust it can be overcome and he can continue in football in some way or another.
Certainly has helped us out of the mire currently and a pity he could not continue the work. Title: Martin Ling Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 17:09:38 fuck a duck.
nightmare for him, the most important thing for him is to be as right as he can. nightmare for us too. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Pax Romana on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 17:15:15 Assuming it is a recurrence of depression as seems likely then like everyone else I'm really sorry for him. Clinical depression is a horrid business.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Talk Talk on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 17:29:44 Really sorry to hear that, he was doing pretty good.
All the very best for the future Martin. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: ExiledEric on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 17:43:57 All the best Lingy. Hope you are back in the game some time soon.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 18:04:48 Huge shame, all the best to him.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 18:41:47 Has he had an episode - breakdown of sorts, or is this more a proventionary get out in case it happens decision ?
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 18:46:49 who knows arriba, who knows.
could yet be unrelated to his mental issues, though that seems most likely. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 18:50:49 The fella's wellbeing is more important than football. Hope he's ok whatever the reason really.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: janaage on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 18:54:48 I'm glad he's had the bottle to call it quits now rather than go on. That in itself takes strength. Good luck to the bloke going forward, being of a particular age, he'll always go down as a bit of a hero for me, all the best Lingy! Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 18:56:38 Wish the guy all the best & a speedy recovery. Certainly puts it all into perspective.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 19:00:09 Sam Ling @SamLing_ He wants to thank everyone at Swindon for the support he was given but his family and health are more important than anything Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: DMR on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 19:01:54 And the dogs abuse I got for saying this appointment would be a disaster....
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Tails on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 19:10:12 Got us winning again. Just unfortunate he's relapsed. That's if it is even his depression.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 19:43:07 And the dogs abuse I got for saying this appointment would be a disaster.... 5 wins in 9 was far from a disaster.Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 19:49:42 DMR's prediction was probably more in line with how long Ling would be here and in that respect, he was right.
Ling's exit is a short-term nuisance, not a disaster. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 19:52:30 Ling's exit is a short-term nuisance, not a disaster. Potentially. Lets see who replaces him and how they do. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 20:03:24 DMR's prediction was probably more in line with how long Ling would be here and in that respect, he was right. He got the context wrong though. He was implying it would have been a disaster in terms of his ability to get results. Nobody expected it to end this way.Ling's exit is a short-term nuisance, not a disaster. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 20:05:44 At least his short tenure has shown the team can hold their own in the division. Should be enough to avoid the drop regardless of who comes in next.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: DMR on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 20:11:19 He got the context wrong though. He was implying it would have been a disaster in terms of his ability to get results. Nobody expected it to end this way. No, I wasn't. If you read the comments at the time I said it was mad to put a man with mental health problems back in to this type of job and that it would end it tears. I'd say I was right. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Tails on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 20:26:58 I wouldn't.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: random_five on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 20:37:12 Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: The Million Pound Man on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 20:47:39 I'd say youre an insensitive, uneducated gobshite.
All the best Lingy- thanks for the upturn in form and fair play for giving it a go. Mental health issues are indiscriminate and vile; indeed Suicide is the largest killer of young men in this country. The stigma applied and attitude shown towards depression on this forum highlight exactly why this issue is such a sore point. The only way to beat this is for society to change its judgement of sufferers i.e. its not a weakness. Also proud of my club for giving ML another go. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: DMR on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 20:58:38 I wouldn't. Well it's hardly an unbridled success is it? Enlighten me. How am I wrong? Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 21:00:38 No, I wasn't. I'd say you were wrong! He won 5 of 9 games & generally gave the club an uplift it massively needed. A disaster would have been appointing him & seeing no upturn in fortunes. Glad he gave it a go & as I've mentioned previously I wish him all the best in his recovery & future endeavours.If you read the comments at the time I said it was mad to put a man with mental health problems back in to this type of job and that it would end it tears. I'd say I was right. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: DMR on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 21:05:43 We're managerless 8 weeks after we were before and the job that so many of you decreed he must now be fit to do has tipped him from "no issues" to resignation in that time.
I'm not trolling, I'm not spoiling for an argument. I fail to see how this is, as I have already said, anything other than a bit of a disaster for all concerned. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 21:11:08 We're managerless 8 weeks after we were before and the job that so many of you decreed he must now be fit to do has tipped him from "no issues" to resignation in that time. Agreed, it's disappointing that it hasn't worked out. But he won 5 of his 1st 6 league games, the last 2 defeats coming against sides in the top 3 or 4 at the time. Far from a disaster in terms of results which ultimately is the only real thing that matters.I'm not trolling, I'm not spoiling for an argument. I fail to see how this is, as I have already said, anything other than a bit of a disaster for all concerned. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 21:12:22 We're managerless 8 weeks after we were before and the job that so many of you decreed he must now be fit to do has tipped him from "no issues" to resignation in that time. I'm not trolling, I'm not spoiling for an argument. I fail to see how this is, as I have already said, anything other than a bit of a disaster for all concerned. It's not really a disaster, but it was always a risk....which is why when TMPM asked this question... Quote Is Ling still getting sacked by Christmas, Red Ken/ Reg ? ;) My answer was unlikely but you can never tell. OK not sacked but gone. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 21:19:32 We don't know yet what effect this will happen on this season. There's no way of telling whether it was a 'disaster' or anything else, positive or negative.
The biggest potential I can see for a 'disaster' is on Ling himself. Hopefully his decision is more preemptive than anything else. Title: Re: Martin Ling ui Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 21:22:15 Not quite sure if I've mentioned that he won 5 of his 9 games but if that constitutes a disaster then fuck knows what we were experiencing during the last 10 or 12 games of Cooper's reign.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 21:27:54 Not quite sure if I've mentioned that he won 5 of his 9 games but if that constitutes a disaster then fuck knows what we were experiencing during the last 10 or 12 games of Cooper's reign. I don't think he meant Ling was a disaster in results, but more having to find a new manager so soon is* *well, could be. Or not. etc, etc. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Ells on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 21:45:35 Just me maybe, but I think this thread was better when it contained positive messages and support... as in, it probably didn't need an "I told you so" about it not working out :doh:
Good luck to Ling, it's clearly for the best that he looks after his health first and foremost. Not ideal from a football perspective, but that becomes totally irrelevant in the circumstances. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Talk Talk on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 21:46:48 Well it's hardly an unbridled success is it? Enlighten me. How am I wrong? <fuck me I am agreeing with Dave M Russell> That is exactly what you said and meant Dave </fuck me I am agreeing with Dave M Russell> You're still a cunt though xxx Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 22:02:32 No one person is bigger than a club. STFC will carry on regardless.
Ling appeared to do a good job of turning things round in a short space of time he was with us. That may have been because of his individual talent, how the management and coaching team gelled or how the players reacted. We'll never really know. I feel very sorry for Ling if it is a reoccurrence of depression. Pretty certain that if he recovers he will not be able to manage a team again. Or, perhaps it means he's going to have to battle it for the rest of his life, which is pretty awful? That is if it is depression. Maybe its something else that hadn't been previously diagnosed? I'm not really sure which is worse! Bottom line is that I'm sure we all thank Lingy for his efforts and wish him a speedy recovery from whatever health issues he is currently suffering. (There really is nothing else to say on the matter) Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 22:16:04 I'm not trolling :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:Getting back to the subject of the thread, it was great to have Ling back, even briefly, and most posters it seems now believe that a bad run can be quickly turned round with the present squad (which may not have been the case before he came) and also, thank God, wish him well for the future. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: ferret on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 22:27:25 It's not really a disaster, but it was always a risk....which is why when TMPM asked this question... My answer was unlikely but you can never tell. OK not sacked but gone. Yes, you're always quick to make these half-baked, tentative predictions, worded in a non-committal way. Of course, you're very selective about the ones that you dredge up and re-quote weeks or months down the line. I suppose all the carefully worded predictions of impending doom will remain in the archives, owing to the fact that we've finished no lower than 8th in the last 4 seasons. In 2013 you were still on about relegation in mid March. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Talk Talk on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 22:41:22 Yes, you're always quick to make these half-baked, tentative predictions, worded in a non-committal way. Of course, you're very selective about the ones that you dredge up and re-quote weeks or months down the line. I suppose all the carefully worded predictions of impending doom will remain in the archives, owing to the fact that we've finished no lower than 8th in the last 4 seasons. In 2013 you were still on about relegation in mid March. Ferret by name... I salute you sir 8) Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: woolster on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 22:47:35 Yes, you're always quick to make these half-baked, tentative predictions, worded in a non-committal way. Of course, you're very selective about the ones that you dredge up and re-quote weeks or months down the line. :popcorn: I suppose all the carefully worded predictions of impending doom will remain in the archives, owing to the fact that we've finished no lower than 8th in the last 4 seasons. In 2013 you were still on about relegation in mid March. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 22:51:42 Quote from: RedRag Quote I'm not trolling :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:Getting back to the subject of the thread, it was great to have Ling back, even briefly, and most posters it seems now believe that a bad run can be quickly turned round with the present squad (which may not have been the case before he came) and also, thank God, wish him well for the future. just playing devils advocate: getting the first team back helped. and there was a study years ago that suggested on average while there may be a honeymoon period that changing manner on average didn't change a teams fortunes longer term. me, well two games aside we stopped leaking two goals a game, played with two up top and looked like we were giving ourselves a fighting chance of mid table (if January doesn't screw it up). he did well. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Christy on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 22:52:31 I'm gutted for Martin - his openness and honesty demonstrated a perspective which always suggested that there was more to life than whether the referee was right or wrong to give a penalty, or if the players had run about enough or not. Even though (for me) there was little discernible improvement in the home performances (results, yes), his approach was a breath of fresh air after the pretty sour Cooper days.
I hope he gets well and working again soon, and am sure he'll always be welcomed fondly back to the CG. As I think I said at the time of his appointment, I'm proud that the club took the risk of bringing him in: Power really is a curious fish, goodness knows what will happen next. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: ekarot on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 23:32:47 Also just a point there were only 3 representatives of stfc in directors box at burton .Having already posted about Williams doing the organisation stuff and shouting maybe it was all known about before the game .And before anyone asks I was in the directors box as a guest of a burton director
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Mega load on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 23:41:30 IF Martin Ling's issues are mental health related and he felt obliged to resign as a consequence, I would like someone to start a campaign for the club to reject his resignation and for him to remain as manager and for him to come back when he is ready, and to repeat this process for as long as it takes for him to beat this thing.
“where mercy is shown mercy is given” – Dog the bounty hunter Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: NZrobin on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 23:42:56 Fucking hell....................
Must be in the Wilts air, surely it's that or the fucking drinking water Swindon just never does it easy !!! After following the club for 54 years it must be said STFC has more turns than Dallas and especially who shot JR. That said, wishing Martin Ling good luck for the future. COYMR's :) Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: NZrobin on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 23:45:34 Mega Load...
What planet are you current on ? Surely this proves my point, its either the air or the water... soapy tit wank Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 23:47:56 Not quite sure if I've mentioned that he won 5 of his 9 games but if that constitutes a disaster then fuck knows what we were experiencing during the last 10 or 12 games of Cooper's reign. These are my thoughts. Didn't take to Cooper the manager by default......Ling went for the job fair and square... First choice? Maybe not. Make a difference....hell yes. I wasnt confident we would win every game but I did have belief and hope and I think the players showed that too. Need to dust ourselves down. It's never dull at the Swindon but this season can fuck off already. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Mega load on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 23:58:48 Mega Load... What planet are you current on ? Surely this proves my point, its either the air or the water... soapy tit wank Please explain why? On my planet the will to help a decent man and a club legend get back on his feet should be thoroughly considered, and publicly showing that in football and in society we should help those with mental health illness is the right way forward. Sometimes the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Ells on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 00:14:01 Please explain why? On my planet the will to help a decent man and a club legend get back on his feet should be thoroughly considered, and publicly showing that in football and in society we should help those with mental health illness is the right way forward. Sometimes the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many. There's nothing to say that the man will never be involved with STFC again. It's not like we sacked him. Fans have shown him support and I believe will continue to do so. We have to be aware here we're just speculating, but the early nature of his resignation says to me he is thinking preventatively, and much respect to him for that. If that's true, what he needs is support and medical help, which I'm sure he's getting from both his family/friends and the relevant professionals respectively. We can wave as many banners as we want but those are the only things that will truly support his recovery at this moment in time. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Mega load on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 00:27:18 There's nothing to say that the man will never be involved with STFC again. It's not like we sacked him. Fans have shown him support and I believe will continue to do so. We have to be aware here we're just speculating, but the early nature of his resignation says to me he is thinking preventatively, and much respect to him for that. If that's true, what he needs is support and medical help, which I'm sure he's getting from both his family/friends and the relevant professionals respectively. We can wave as many banners as we want but those are the only things that will truly support his recovery at this moment in time. I can't and don't believe that if he was healthy and well then he would want to give up his job, and thereof take the view his position should be left open for him until he is well enough to return, IMO the fact he has had the job a month rather then a year make no difference. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Ells on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 01:11:37 I can't and don't believe that if he was healthy and well then he would want to give up his job, and thereof take the view his position should be left open for him until he is well enough to return, IMO the fact he has had the job a month rather then a year make no difference. I didn't say he was healthy and well, I said he was perhaps thinking preventatively - none of us know. But what I do know is no one said he shouldn't be able to return. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 06:22:38 Who was mega load, and have they stropped off?
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 07:11:10 Which cunt always deletes his account when someone argues with him?
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: joteddyred on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 09:19:21 Was round a friend's last night, so blissfully unaware of Ling's departure until the Adver has just come through the door.
What a bloody shame for himself and the club. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Tails on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 09:20:43 Well it's hardly an unbridled success is it? Enlighten me. How am I wrong? So because it's not a success, it's a disaster? It's not that black and white. Ok two of your points... 1. It'll all end in tears 2. It's a disaster Both wrong. If we'd lost all 9 games and Ling had blown his head off then yeah, that'd be a bit shit. As it happens, we're a lot better off than before he got here and the guy has taken a step to improve his mental health. It's not ideal for us, but by no means a disaster. The set up here means that continuity is almost certain (whether that's a good or a bad thing remains to be seen). Was it a risk to employ someone in such a high pressured job with a history of mental illness? Probably, I don't think anyone would deny it was. Unfortunately for us it seems he's relapsed, which means the risk didn't really pay off, but at least we enjoyed a good run of wins while he was here, and at least the guy can get some help. But hey, if you want to use a nice bloke with a serious health conditions relapse as some sort of dick waving "I told you so" then be my guest but don't get tetchy when people say you're a cunt. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Leggett on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 09:29:49 Was round a friend's last night, so blissfully unaware of Ling's departure until the Adver has just come through the door. What a bloody shame for himself and the club. I'm amazed people still get the Adver delivered... Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 09:31:02 Who was mega load, and have they stropped off? Fuck knows, he deleted his account himself. He seems a special kind of special. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: joteddyred on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 09:45:23 I'm amazed people still get the Adver delivered... I like to keep up with the exciting day to day news around Swindon. If I cancelled delivery, I'd forget to look online daily and might miss something vital ;) Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 09:48:06 Well this was a pleasant read.
Title: Re: Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 09:51:10 It's a strange thing to say but I just hope that it is the depression rearing its head again and taking note of the sudden timing not something more sinister with his health.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 09:51:56 Still no statement from the club then?
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 10:22:32 Patience. You have to get things right in sensitive situations.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 10:26:10 Yes, you're always quick to make these half-baked, tentative predictions, worded in a non-committal way. Of course, you're very selective about the ones that you dredge up and re-quote weeks or months down the line. I suppose all the carefully worded predictions of impending doom will remain in the archives, owing to the fact that we've finished no lower than 8th in the last 4 seasons. In 2013 you were still on about relegation in mid March. Fair play for taking the time to read my stuff...feel free to becoming my unofficial stalker and call to account my thoughts, I'm not always right. In the instance quoted the poster asked a direct question to which I gave a direct answer, of course at the time it seemed a ridiculous notion that the manager would be gone so soon, however it happened. Your other reference would be to 2014, when I suggested that we needed to avoid a McMahon style end of season slump, having only won 2 of the previous 13, up to the Wolves home game. The management brought in Jack Stephens putting Darren Ward out to grass which suggests they took a similar view. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 10:44:49 I'm amazed people still get the Adver delivered... I'm amazed people buy it at all.Regarding megaloads point that the job should be left open then I disagree. Didn't Torquay keep it open for a while only to then need a replacement ? Football isn't like other jobs where you can leave the managerial role on hold. Just impossible to do. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 11:36:34 It would be nice to think that the club would welcome Ling back in some sort of capacity when he feels ready to get back to work as it can be beneficial to recovering from depression.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:50:50 The way I initially read the announcement was that he was resigning as first team manager and that it could be that he isn't necessarily leaving the club completely. I could just be reading too much into it, but the full club statement should clear it up.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Pete on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 15:02:05 Sad news, best wishes Lingy
Title: Re: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Only Me on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 15:39:40 And the dogs abuse I got for saying this appointment would be a disaster.... Do you still think it was a disaster?Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Ticker45 on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 16:56:36 Statement from Lee Power:
Swindon Town Chairman, Lee Power has released the following statement regarding the departure of Martin Ling: Martin rang me yesterday morning to let me know that he was resigning as manager. I was both shocked and extremely saddened but fully respected his decision. In a very short period of time, Martin has done an excellent job by winning five of his eight league games in charge and moving us out of and away from the League 1 relegation zone. Martin has proved that he is still a very good football manager but sometimes in life, things are far more important than football and Martin felt that the stresses of the job were not good for his health going forward. With his previous health issues, he felt that staying in the job was a risk he could not take for the sake of his family. Everyone at Swindon Town fully respects his decision and he will always be welcome back at the County Ground. I have not spent as much time with Martin as I would have liked during his time in charge nor have I had the opportunity to nurture and develop a working relationship with him as I have been out of the country for most of his tenure. However, I would like to place on record my personal thanks to Martin. He is a football man through and through and is a very honest, hard-working man who loves Swindon Town Football Club. I saw Martin this morning and he asked me to thank his staff, the players and the supporters for their backing during his time at the club. In the short term, Luke Williams will be in charge of the first team starting with Saturday’s game at Port Vale. The search for a new permanent manager has already begun and I hope to have the new man in place as soon as possible. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Combe Down on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 18:48:08 Can we all look at ourselves in the mirror please. Are there any comments in this (or any other) forum you belong to, which might have contributed to the situation?
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 19:02:56 What the holy fuck? What's bought that comment out?
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 19:06:20 What the holy fuck? What's bought that comment out? Dunno. I'm tempted to move it without informing him by PM. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Honest Lee on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 19:14:31 Can we all look at ourselves in the mirror please. Are there any comments in this (or any other) forum you belong to, which might have contributed to the situation? Get a life FFS Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Ells on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 19:23:47 I don't get it?
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 19:29:07 Can we all look at ourselves in the mirror please. Are there any comments in this (or any other) forum you belong to, which might have contributed to the situation? IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 19:32:33 Quote from: Combe Down Can we all look at ourselves in the mirror please. Are there any comments in this (or any other) forum you belong to, which might have contributed to the situation? trololololol. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Combe Down on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 19:56:05 Jeez, get a grip. Stop your own personal agendas please. OK, an example: I wonder if any criticism of tactics, substitutions, even floodlight bulbs (!) on this forum found their way to Mr Ling's office. Do you not think that owners, managers, players read this kind of forum? It's in the nature of a lot of people to want to know what people think of them.
Some of the reaction to my question makes my think that some of you felt a kick in the stomach along the lines of 'blimey I hadn't thought of that'. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 20:04:27 I don't even...
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Ells on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 20:04:47 Depression is an illness not a 12 year old having a tantrum. While I've no doubt persistent negativity can and will contribute to the mental state of anyone who suffers from it, I very much doubt the pissing floodlights had anything to do with his resignation.
Were we all baying for his blood, calling him every name under the sun and suggesting he was incapable, you might have a point. But he's hardly been here a few weeks, and I've not seen anything like that. Fans have been supportive in both his appointment and his resignation, and most of the negative comments have been aimed at Power by people who are little more than amoebas anyway and are still waiting for us to bring in Guardiola. I don't see your point. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 20:10:24 Jeez, get a grip. Stop your own personal agendas please. OK, an example: I wonder if any criticism of tactics, substitutions, even floodlight bulbs (!) on this forum found their way to Mr Ling's office. Do you not think that owners, managers, players read this kind of forum? It's in the nature of a lot of people to want to know what people think of them. (https://i.imgur.com/kvCFMEe.gif)Some of the reaction to my question makes my think that some of you felt a kick in the stomach along the lines of 'blimey I hadn't thought of that'. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 20:49:33 Quote from: Combe Down Jeez, get a grip. Stop your own personal agendas please. OK, an example: I wonder if any criticism of tactics, substitutions, even floodlight bulbs (!) on this forum found their way to Mr Ling's office. Do you not think that owners, managers, players read this kind of forum? It's in the nature of a lot of people to want to know what people think of them. Some of the reaction to my question makes my think that some of you felt a kick in the stomach along the lines of 'blimey I hadn't thought of that'. hahaha. riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Dostoyevsky on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 21:43:54 Good luck Lingy. Depression is a very concealed affliction. You can go out and get immobilised drunk and be the life and soul and when you crawl home with a kebab and six pack you feel like a complete prick who is putting on a front. Alcohol is a terrible bed fellow of depression.
I don't think Winter helps either, and I am suggesting depressive types have a break in Spain. Probably talking bollox now. Cut your internet at 10pm too. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Combe Down on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 21:52:43 I resign from this forum.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 21:56:37 That's 2 flounces within 3 pages, this thread could have some legs.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 21:59:03 Floodlight bulbs? Blimey.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 21:59:08 And to think that Dossy's just made one of the most agreeable posts he's ever made.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 22:02:58 And to think that Dossy's just made one of the most agreeable posts he's ever made. These are truly the end times. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 22:04:55 And to think that Dossy's just made one of the most agreeable posts he's ever made. (https://giant.gfycat.com/DearestSlowCottonmouth.gif) Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 22:12:38 Mr Ling, obviously thought he was ready. His body said otherwise. He made a mistake applying for the job as wasn't mentally ready as he thought he was.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 22:26:30 Floodlight bulbs? Blimey. :idea: Who'd have thought my long time moan about floodlight bulbs would have had this effect, just as they have been replaced to boot. Chaos theory eh. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 22:29:27 Good job we didn't mention the moat, lasers and trebuchets.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Talk Talk on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 23:03:44 Good job we didn't mention the moat, lasers and trebuchets. Let's not bring trebuchets up please. That make me go all weak at the knees Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 23:10:42 It's obvious. The poor floodlight quality has contributed to seasonal affectiveness disorder
Title: Re: Re: Martin Ling Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 00:34:43 :idea: Who'd have thought my long time moan about floodlight bulbs would have had this effect, just as they have been replaced to boot. Chaos theory eh. It's what broke the camels back, you hounded him out with your floodlight talk.Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 08:21:07 It's what broke the camels back, you hounded him out with your floodlight talk. It wasn't the floodlight talk (although Reg can be depressing at any time!) it was the nichname that Flash tried to give him - bloody Flash!!Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 10:06:40 I resign from this forum. Well I hope you're all happy now. First you drive out our Manager, followed by the best damned poster this forum ever had.You all sicken me. I may even resign myself. Possibly... Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 12:01:14 Well I hope you're all happy now. First you drive out our Manager, followed by the best damned poster this forum ever had. You all sicken me. I may even resign myself. Possibly... We could possibly get a banner arranged, something like 'Bring back Martin Ling (and Combe Down)... Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 12:11:42 We could possibly get a banner arranged, something like 'Bring back Martin Ling (and Combe Down)... Where's JayBox when you need him....there must be an online equivalent of "the Jungle" somewhere for refugees from persecution by the TEF. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Stevens on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 12:13:02 I must be the most boring poster on here, I've made over 60 posts and nobody ever answers by posts (agreeing or disagreeing) or even tells be to fuck off.
You feel you've made it when you haven't resigned after 10 posts on here when the gang hasn't picked on you. :nod: Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 12:14:11 I must be the most boring poster on here, I've made over 60 posts and nobody ever answers by posts (agreeing or disagreeing) or even tells be to fuck off. You feel you've made it when you haven't resigned after 10 posts on here when the gang hasn't picked on you. :nod: Fuck off you cunt. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Stevens on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 12:15:15 Fuck off you cunt. Thank you I see Rory Bellows is the newest member - keep calm mate, keep calm! Title: Re: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Only Me on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 12:25:00 It wasn't the floodlight talk (although Reg can be depressing at any time!) it was the nichname that Flash tried to give him - bloody Flash!! Ha ha. Poor RegTitle: Re: Martin Ling Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 12:26:01 Thank you Don't bring me into it.I see Rory Bellows is the newest member - keep calm mate, keep calm! I'm off! Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 12:30:00 I must confess I am seriously considering my position on here in light of the hounding out of Martin Ling, bloody disgusting bringing the floodlights into it especially after he spent all that time changing the bulbs himself (apparently).
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: suttonred on Thursday, December 31, 2015, 13:25:12 I must be the most boring poster on here, I've made over 60 posts and nobody ever answers by posts (agreeing or disagreeing) or even tells be to fuck off. You feel you've made it when you haven't resigned after 10 posts on here when the gang hasn't picked on you. :nod: Be careful for what you wish for. The last person to be in a gang I know of was Gary Glitter and look how that turned out.. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Batch on Friday, January 1, 2016, 14:55:31 brief statement:
Quote The decision that I took to stand down from the position as Manager of Swindon Town was not taken lightly. The club and its supporters have always been very special to me and I would never do anything to jeopardise this relationship but I know that my decision was the right one for me, my family and the club that I love. I would like to thank Lee Power, the players, staff and supporters of Swindon Town for all the support that they have shown me and I wish them every success for the future. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 1, 2016, 15:07:46 ...and that was that.
Good luck, Lingy. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Arriba on Friday, January 1, 2016, 15:14:45 Well that cleared that one up then....
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: theakston2k on Friday, January 1, 2016, 17:16:46 Well that cleared that one up then.... Powers latest interview says a bit more, Ling recognised he was relapsing and "the demons were back" so made the call.Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, January 1, 2016, 18:14:28 It wasn't the floodlight talk (although Reg can be depressing at any time!) it was the nichname that Flash tried to give him - bloody Flash!! vI confirm that I will not be resigning! You fuckwits will just have to click the ignore button.... Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 11:44:03 Can some kind soul please do me a favour and copy/paste the bit about him in the Mail today. It's blocked out here.
Cheers, me dears. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 11:48:08 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3833314/Martin-Ling-interview-pal-stopped-leaping-rail-track-stopped-jumping-road.html
Quote Martin Ling knew over lunch. He knew, as he glared at a plate of untouched food, that it was coming back and that's when the fear started. 'What if it's like last time?' he thought. 'Oh s***, why now? Oh f***, what if it's like last time?' He was sitting with the coach he had brought to Swindon Town, Ross Embleton, and the club's director of football, Seamus Brady. It was November 24, 2015, and the three of them had decided to get something to eat before the League One match against Walsall that night. But Ling, suddenly, had no appetite. And after what he had been through, he knew this was one of the signs. Panic rippled through him. He'd only been in the job three weeks, given an opportunity he didn't think would come again, and now this. But it might be nothing, he told himself. 'It might not be that b****** coming back.' Best to focus on Walsall, he reasoned, and that night Swindon won 2-1 for their second victory in three games. They had been in desperate trouble when Ling arrived on November 3 and now were climbing. But Ling felt nothing but indifference. 'Another sign,' he thought. 'Why aren't you happy? S***. This isn't good.' He walked the corridors of the County Ground that night and several others in the next two weeks, spotting pictures of himself as a player he had never noticed before. He was part of the Swindon team who reached the Premier League and he played when they got there. This was his club, where the door to one of the bars is covered in his image — the laughing winger in Swindon's most successful side. It was the club that had given him his return to management after the horrific pain and stigma of his mental breakdown at Torquay in 2013. That episode, with those five weeks in the Priory and the 'barbaric' electroshock treatments, might have ended his time in management. But Swindon chairman Lee Power looked past that for one of their own. ..... DAILY MAIL KEEPS CRASHING IE ON CRAPPY WORK COMPUTER. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 11:51:27 Can some kind soul please do me a favour and copy/paste the bit about him in the Mail today. It's blocked out here. Cheers, me dears. PM'd it to you.. Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 11:52:20 Thank you.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 15:51:13 Interesting and sad reading, pity we cannot accommodate him somewhere within the club if he is looking to get back part time, even if its just in the academy or something - but only if its right for him obviously?
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: donkey on Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 15:54:32 All the best, Linger.
Title: Re: Martin Ling Post by: Ells on Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 21:17:16 Thanks for the paste. It's got to be a good thing he can recognise his triggers and what not. Though I wish he hadn't said that about ECT!
Stay strong lingy. |