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Title: Electrical Query.
Post by: herthab on Thursday, September 17, 2015, 15:29:44
I've just got an all singing, all dancing coffee machine from the states, after using the same model over in Canada. The bastard thing won't work and just blows the fuse. Looking into it, it appears that it may be a wiring issue (US is set up for 120V, whereas we are 240V).

My question is, can it be rewired, or is there another way to get the bastard thing working? It's cost me a fair few quid, so it'll be annoying if it's useless.


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, September 17, 2015, 15:42:54
What about something like this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/45W-STEP-DOWN-VOLTAGE-CONVERTER-Transformer-USA-TO-UK-110v-240v-/281799669990?


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: herthab on Thursday, September 17, 2015, 15:46:59
Cheers.


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Thursday, September 17, 2015, 16:02:14
Step down converter will solve the voltage issue, but it won't change the frequency

US is 60hz and GB is 50 hz.

This may give issues with timers and ac motors (for pumps etc)
if the pump motors are ac, they will run at 5/6th the speed in GB - doesn't sound much, but it can cause loss of torque.
You may still be alright

If it uses dc motors, you should be fine


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, September 17, 2015, 16:06:01
(US is set up for 120V, whereas we are 240V).

Technically it's 230v.

US is also 60Hz as opposed to UK 50Hz, so if your fancy coffee machine has a motor in it, it might not run to the correct speed (or at all, depending on the motor).


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: herthab on Thursday, September 17, 2015, 16:54:04
Technically it's 230v.

US is also 60Hz as opposed to UK 50Hz, so if your fancy coffee machine has a motor in it, it might not run to the correct speed (or at all, depending on the motor).
Fucking yanks and their stupid fucking systems.....


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: 4D on Thursday, September 17, 2015, 22:13:34
A spoon and a jar of instant is easier.


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: Pete on Thursday, September 17, 2015, 22:56:28
A spoon and a jar of instant is easier.

Or a good old fashioned Italian stovetop

http://www.bialetti.com/www.bialetti.com/coffee/stovetop/stainless-pots-c-1_7_21.html


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: Combe Down on Friday, September 18, 2015, 06:06:21
Who invented / discovered electricity anyway? Shouldn't we just use their system to make things simple instead of changing everything.


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 18, 2015, 06:20:40
Who invented / discovered electricity anyway? Shouldn't we just use their system to make things simple instead of changing everything.

That's a bit like asking "who discovered steam". There is no single person that takes the credit as we've known it's been around us for a long, long time. Although different people such as Franklin and Faraday helped expand our knowledge and find practical uses for it.


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 18, 2015, 06:35:29
just make sure the output ampage of the stepdown is enough for the input of the coffee machine


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: suttonred on Friday, September 18, 2015, 10:09:16
Who invented / discovered electricity anyway? Shouldn't we just use their system to make things simple instead of changing everything.

Dunno, but they should have listened to Tesla.


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, September 18, 2015, 12:31:03
Dunno, but they should have listened to Tesla.

I'm glad we didn't stick with Edison's idea


Title: Re:
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, September 18, 2015, 23:29:07
If there is one man in history who epitomised the selfish twat it's Edison. Willingly put back the advance of progress to make some cash and promote himself. Fuck Edison. Fuck his moudly old corpse.


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, September 19, 2015, 05:49:41
Didn't he promote 110v DC because anything more than that would blow the filament in his light bulbs?


Title: Re: Electrical Query.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, September 19, 2015, 06:41:17
I don't know about that. It doesn't seem too clear why we are 240/230 and they are 110v.

But Edison used +110v, 0, -110v in his DC. And in the AC v DC wars Edison claimed AC high voltage was dangerous. So they may have perceived 110v to be safer.

A couple of links give this answer though

http://thednetworks.com/2012/06/10/why-does-ukusa-use-110120v-and-others-use-220240v/

which I didn't know.