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Title: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 16:53:23
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  44s45 seconds ago
A Swindon Town development  side beat Kidderminster 2-1 earlier today, Miles Storey amongst the goals.

See. Proof the he should be starting every game.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 16:54:52
hahaha HE indeed....  :suicide:


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 17:09:13
Maybe it will encourage a Kidderminster loan or maybe even cash bid for the unappreciated messiah


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: A Gent Orange on Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 17:40:42
Jake Evans got one of the goals. Barry played 90 mins too.

If you can believe their Twitter accounts.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 17:44:28
I've a complete blank on Jake Evans, who's he?


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: A Gent Orange on Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 17:47:55
He looks the other side of puberty... Ah yes. He's 17.


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Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 18:30:11
Storey skippered the side, they are keeping him sweet to make him stay I tell thee


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 07:55:25
How has he NOT been snapped up by Barcelona yet?


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 08:09:26
He and Ty were joking about it all last night. Saying stuff on Twitter like "We don't lose when I captain the side".

Could it be that Cooper wants to use Storey but he's being told by the higher ups that he's not allowed? Because he was involved in so many of the pre-season games getting assists and goals, then nothing.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 08:21:51
He and Ty were joking about it all last night. Saying stuff on Twitter like "We don't lose when I captain the side".

Could it be that Cooper wants to use Storey but he's being told by the higher ups that he's not allowed? Because he was involved in so many of the pre-season games getting assists and goals, then nothing.

There is no conspiracy. He's not a League One striker, and should (and will hopefully) be playing bottom half League 2 before the window closes.



Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 08:24:12
There is no conspiracy. He's not a League One striker, and should (and will hopefully) be playing bottom half League 2 before the window closes.



From half the stuff I've heard about this club from people within it, it really wouldn't surprise me.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 08:27:24
He's done nothing in the games I've seen to suggest he will make it, he's seemed to be of the level of players that come through our club and then go off to Chippenham if I'm being honest.  To be fair, that also seems to be the opinion of every Manager who has tried him out and it's no great surprise that we can't shift him for a fee.  I'd imagine he'll get a loan deal at someone near the bottom of L2 then by the end of the season be off to a Conference level club on a permanent deal.  Different position but in terms of quality I'd have him in the same group as players like Pook, Hamon, P Hunt.  The only reason he gets well thought of is because he's come through the ranks - if we'd signed him for cash (lets say the amount we'd spent on his wages and development) then he'd be getting pelters from the crowd by now.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 08:44:29
Why do some find it so difficult to accept that certain players are just not good enough?


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 08:51:58
He's done nothing in the games I've seen to suggest he will make it, he's seemed to be of the level of players that come through our club and then go off to Chippenham if I'm being honest.  To be fair, that also seems to be the opinion of every Manager who has tried him out and it's no great surprise that we can't shift him for a fee.  I'd imagine he'll get a loan deal at someone near the bottom of L2 then by the end of the season be off to a Conference level club on a permanent deal.  Different position but in terms of quality I'd have him in the same group as players like Pook, Hamon, P Hunt.  The only reason he gets well thought of is because he's come through the ranks - if we'd signed him for cash (lets say the amount we'd spent on his wages and development) then he'd be getting pelters from the crowd by now.

Tend to agree with all points.


Title: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 09:03:16
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Why do some find it so difficult to accept that certain players are just not good enough?
circumstantial/lack of a serious chance.

there have been times where he's been our best option yet still not selected.  obviously opinion not fact.



wouldn't be surprised if this is a financial issue like other players that got frozen out.

that's not to say he'd be part of any long term plan anyway.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 09:11:57
He's done nothing in the games I've seen to suggest he will make it, he's seemed to be of the level of players that come through our club and then go off to Chippenham if I'm being honest.  To be fair, that also seems to be the opinion of every Manager who has tried him out and it's no great surprise that we can't shift him for a fee.  I'd imagine he'll get a loan deal at someone near the bottom of L2 then by the end of the season be off to a Conference level club on a permanent deal.  Different position but in terms of quality I'd have him in the same group as players like Pook, Hamon, P Hunt.  The only reason he gets well thought of is because he's come through the ranks - if we'd signed him for cash (lets say the amount we'd spent on his wages and development) then he'd be getting pelters from the crowd by now.

I'd disagree he's scored a few goals and has pace....that's the sort of thing that gets managers interested in a young player, and presumably why we gave him a long contract....I'd say he's shown more than say George Barker, who our management thought was decent enough to pay a fee for. Is Hylton better than Storey?

Some managers/coaches like a player others don't....twas ever thus. Ours don't like Storey.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 09:26:35
Why do some find it so difficult to accept that certain players are just not good enough?

I'm not saying he's 100% good enough to be in our side. But when our only striking option seems to be a deflated Michael Smith, why not use him?


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 09:32:54
The only reason Jedco gave him a new contract was after he scored those goals against Villa and his stock was high, so they thought they could make some money off him no doubt.

If he hadnt scored those goals i doubt he would be here now.

Edit - see he signed new deal just before villa game


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 09:38:06
Think Storey could be useful wide left in a front 3. Push Robert central behind the striker where he naturally drifts,Byrne out on the right. Kasim and Traore/Stewart/Rodgers a bit deeper.

Storey seems to have bulked up a bit over the summer and is obviously rapid. I could see him and Byrne swapping wings and scaring full backs to death, all the while Robert is drifting into dangerous positions in and around the box.

I realise this won't happen, just a vision I could see working.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 09:41:50
Wait wait wait, ASD's original tweet said Storey was 'amongst the goals'.

Perhaps he scored an own goal?

STOREY OUT


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: DRS on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 09:52:28
Fail to see how every manager have all come to the same conclusion on the lad but it has to be another reason? If he was good enough he would be playing. No way was he offered a deal when he was youth team player that said he had to play x amount of games


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 10:44:12
Fail to see how every manager have all come to the same conclusion on the lad but it has to be another reason? If he was good enough he would be playing. No way was he offered a deal when he was youth team player that said he had to play x amount of games

And if he did it was for monkey nuts - I could understand if Andy Williams had suddenly stopped playing but not a youth.

Storey is basically the new Andy Caton for those old enough to remember!


Title: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 10:48:38
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Fail to see how every manager have all come to the same conclusion on the lad but it has to be another reason? If he was good enough he would be playing. No way was he offered a deal when he was youth team player that said he had to play x amount of games
that's not what I meant. if he was the next Austin he'd be playing, obviously, we'd want to turn him into a saleable asset while reaping the rewards.

what I meant is that when the likes of George barker get on the bench ahead of him it doesn't make sense. it also doesn't make sense he hadn't got a squad number until we literally had no other option.

so how I make sense of it is there is something else going on as well. to me it  feels the same as the ward/Harley situation.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: DRS on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 10:52:19
I just think it could be more down to him than us.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 12:11:24
Fair enough. He could be dogshit in training with a bad attitude for all I know.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Ticker45 on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 15:50:04
I'd disagree he's scored a few goals and has pace....that's the sort of thing that gets managers interested in a young player, and presumably why we gave him a long contract....I'd say he's shown more than say George Barker, who our management thought was decent enough to pay a fee for. Is Hylton better than Storey?

Some managers/coaches like a player others don't....twas ever thus. Ours don't like Storey.

Agree entirely. Thought he would make it as well. Something wrong as his loans have never really produced any interest either. Shame, but he is not the first and certainly will not be the last in failing to reach the levels required after initial promise.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 15:55:36
Agree entirely. Thought he would make it as well. Something wrong as his loans have never really produced any interest either. Shame, but he is not the first and certainly will not be the last in failing to reach the levels required after initial promise.

I suspect as a striker 9 goals in 66 games may well be the reason there is little interest....


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 16:23:18
Other than pace, I fail to see what the people defending him have seen that I've missed.. He clearly has some talent but I just can't see him getting a team above League 2.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 16:39:42
I saw someone on facebook who was adamant he would fit into our style of play and would be a gamechanger


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 16:42:29
I saw someone on facebook who was adamant he would fit into our style of play and would be a gamechanger

Did they mean gamekeeper?


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Paolo69 on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 17:00:53
I suspect as a striker 9 goals in 66 games may well be the reason there is little interest....

Good old stats. How many starts up front (not on the wing) in that 66?

Fwiw I'm not convinced he'll be good enough if we want to be challenging but we hardly have strikers queuing up for places in our team at the moment.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: BruceChatwin on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 17:09:23
Other than pace, I fail to see what the people defending him have seen that I've missed.. He clearly has some talent but I just can't see him getting a team above League 2.

You make him sound like Eric Sabin or Alan O'Brien. He's got a bit more ability than just pace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ1on7_M5lw

Biggest problem for me is consistency. Looked one of our better players in a few of the away games under Di Canio, but never managed to kick on. Still only 21, and think he'll do okay for a League One/ Two side one day.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 17:55:34
O'Brien wasn't that bad in theory. Was never given a real chance, and was a fans scapegoat.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 17:58:17
O'Brien wasn't that bad in theory. Was never given a real chance, and was a fans scapegoat.

 :fishing:


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 18:01:24
Didn't we have this sort of discussion about Billy Bodin?

Scored 1 worldy and he was going to be the next big thing


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 18:02:25
[Moved]

Miles Storey played more first team games for Swindon than George Barker did in his entire Town career and Storey spent the whole of one season elsewhere on loan.

Barker was just a sub filler, just as Storey was on Tuesday night.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 18:05:28
You make him sound like Eric Sabin or Alan O'Brien. He's got a bit more ability than just pace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ1on7_M5lw

Biggest problem for me is consistency. Looked one of our better players in a few of the away games under Di Canio, but never managed to kick on. Still only 21, and think he'll do okay for a League One/ Two side one day.


Possibly the best youtube compilation I've seen. Sign him up.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 18:08:07
Take away those goals against Villa and you aren't left with too much.

Don't think Alan O'Brien was ever really a scapegoat, he just wasn't as much of a threat as he should have been.  It was frustrating because he could tear the fullback a new hole when in the mood. One performance at Franchise I remember him looking like a world beater


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 18:08:58
To be fair all of those were pretty good finishes.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 18:09:33
To be fair all of those were pretty good finishes.

He likes to dink it to the far post doesn't he.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 18:12:01

Don't think Alan O'Brien was ever really a scapegoat, he was just shit but could run fast

Totally agree.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 18:12:46
Might just as well rename it The Miles Storey thread.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 18:19:11
Take away those goals against Villa and you aren't left with too much.

Don't think Alan O'Brien was ever really a scapegoat, he just wasn't as much of a threat as he should have been.  It was frustrating because he could tear the fullback a new hole when in the mood. One performance at Franchise I remember him looking like a world beater
I remember the home game against Exeter, was the game after Austin had left. We moved Ritchie up front in place of Austin & played AOB on the left in place of Ritchie. He was fucking terrific that day & went off to a standing ovation. Never hit those heights again unfortunately which was a shame cos I always thought he might come good, pace being such an asset in the modern game.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 18:25:26
I remember the home game against Exeter, was the game after Austin had left. We moved Ritchie up front in place of Austin & played AOB on the left in place of Ritchie. He was fucking terrific that day & went off to a standing ovation. Never hit those heights again unfortunately which was a shame cos I always thought he might come good, pace being such an asset in the modern game.

O'Brien was possessed that day. He absolutely terrorised Exeter. On other days, not so much.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 18:38:10
I remember they had an exercise bike next to the dugout once so he could try to warm his hamstrings up to help avoid injury.


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 19:05:09
Now sells cars at the mercedes garage in town 8)


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, August 20, 2015, 22:39:28
And plays for Hungerford


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, August 21, 2015, 06:12:19
You make him sound like Eric Sabin or Alan O'Brien. He's got a bit more ability than just pace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ1on7_M5lw

Biggest problem for me is consistency. Looked one of our better players in a few of the away games under Di Canio, but never managed to kick on. Still only 21, and think he'll do okay for a League One/ Two side one day.


With all due respect, and in my defence.. I did say he has talent and not just pace.. but I think League Two is his level. n


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: DiV on Friday, August 21, 2015, 09:20:08
Fail to see how every manager have all come to the same conclusion on the lad but it has to be another reason? If he was good enough he would be playing. No way was he offered a deal when he was youth team player that said he had to play x amount of games

Well, we must have had about 6/7/8 managers who all regularly played Michael Pook - who has to be one of the worst footballers we've had at the club.

I used to get to a fair few youth/ressie/development games and I've seen some dog shit players go onto have good careers and seen some amazing prospects do nothing.

I don't think we will ever truely know what Storey is capable of unless we gave him a good run of 15 starts and give him a chance.

Just because....our best players (from what I saw) at youth level were Lukas Jutkiewicz followed by Lloyd Macklin!!!!


Title: Re: The ressie/development games thread.
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, August 21, 2015, 10:01:06
I don't think we will ever truely know what Storey is capable of unless we gave him a good run of 15 starts and give him a chance.

He got at least 15 starts at Newport and got what? 1 goal?