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Taking place this afternoon. Can't say I take much interest in internationals these days, but wouldn't it be great if they did away with seeding.

I hate it in football, tennis and all its forms.

I agree re the seeding.

Also something i didn't realise till i read about it yesterday is that all the top teams go into groups of 6 teams (e.g. Spain, England, Netherlands etc) due to TV rights, they can't be in groups of 5 teams.

Have to be honest, it's not something i'll be watching or take much interest in, i'm sure i'll hear about it over the next couple of days.

Wales in same seeding pot as England!

It's what happens when you beat decent teams rather than cannon fodder

Love international football, and looking forward to seeing how the groups pan out. Wales being pot 1 is a hilarious, hoping we get them as number 1 seed. Fed up of drawing the likes of Italy, Germany, France, Spain.

England or Wales would be great to draw, make things very interesting. Wouldn't fancy chances v England but don't fancy our chances of qualifying anyway.

I hope England get a really tough group with France or Italy. Fed up with us smashing tiny countries in qualification and then not handling the step up at tournaments.

We're probably due a non-qualification.

This.

Good shout, I love the fact we've had terrible qualifying groups for the last x amount of years. Really tough, for us. Makes it v interesting though. Having Germany, Poland, Ireland in the euro qualifying has made every match engrossing, rather than the procession that England 'enjoy'.

Not to say I wouldn't like a procession/walk in the park to a tournament mind you.

YES!!!!! Scotland get England! If that doesn't make things interesting for you at international level nothing will. Hampden and Wembley will be rocking!

England should piss all over that group

England, Slovakia, Scotland, Slovenia, Lithuania, Malta.

Nice group for away matches. Lovely places, well apart from London and Glasgow.

Bloody hell, has Catherine Zeta Jones been noshing off Seep Blatter or something? One of the easiest groups in recent WC qualification history that.

Could not give a shit if they do. Just the thought of a meaningful Eng/Scot 'battle' at Hampden and Wembley is worth it. Not confident at all, obviously, but it's been a long while. Atmosphere will be electric.

Bet Greg Dyke creamed himself with that result  :flaccid:

Not a single competitive fixture in that for England.
Walkthrough that - get to the finals. First competitive game, lose and out.

Fuck the seeding off completely.

Can't see England even dropping 1 point in that group.

Slovakia are decent.....beat Spain in the Euro qualifiers.

I wish England had boycotted this WC.

what is our top seeding based on?

Geoff Thomas winning his one cap.

He is not worthy of a Dutch cap.

Remember that goal attempt of his?

I'll see if it's on YouTube

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Especially when FIFA announced during the draw that all the big teams (Engalnd, Germany, Holland, etc) had to be in a 6 team group...

That statement will come back and bite you on the arse imo.