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Title: Flag Dilemma Post by: Fowey on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 10:00:53 I have purchased an Iraqi flag in support of Yaser Kasim - my favourite player. Should I either, hold up the Iraqi flag in support of Yaser Kasim or Not hold up the Iraqi flag as it might offend. Any views? Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: RobertT on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 10:02:05 You need to get it in the ground first, but hold the damned thing up otherwise you just purchased an odd blanket for the day.
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 10:03:32 Firstly, this is a great idea for a new thread.
Secondly, he has about 15 friends & family coming from Iraq to support him with Iraqi flags. Are you Iraqi? If yes, go for it! Be proud of your countryman. If you're not, it's a bit odd IMO. Paint STFC in white on the red bar on the flag if you want? Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 10:18:48 If somebody would be offended by something like that, then they deserve to be fucking offended. Fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: kerry red on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 10:20:05 I'm offended by your reply
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 10:22:59 Mr Fry says it best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq5dNcrHE8w Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 10:39:54 Mr Fry says it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq5dNcrHE8w I love his interview where he talks about swearing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_osQvkeNRM Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 11:08:25 Why would anyone be offended by an Iraqi flag? As others have said, might seem a bit odd to some (esp if they don't recognise the flag/realise Kasim is Iraqi) but offended?
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 11:21:43 There were Iraqi flags at both semi final games so don't see what the issue is
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 11:52:36 I have purchased an Iraqi flag in support of Yaser Kasim - my favourite player. Should I either, hold up the Iraqi flag in support of Yaser Kasim or Not hold up the Iraqi flag as it might offend. Any views? I think it's a great recognition for a player who has proved his worth and got better and better. Good on you! Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 11:53:56 Doo do do, do do
Iraq life Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: suttonred on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 11:54:57 Did it come with a fire certificate? Or has a label to say fire retardant. If neither of those, it probably wont get in.
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 12:08:18 Or has a label to say fire retardant. They prefer to be called the flammable challenged. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 12:10:20 Why would anyone be offended by an Iraqi flag? As others have said, might seem a bit odd to some (esp if they don't recognise the flag/realise Kasim is Iraqi) but offended? Anyone who gets offended by someone raising the flag of his or her country needs a kick up the arse. Unfortunately these people are all too common. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 12:35:14 Did it come with a fire certificate? Or has a label to say fire retardant. If neither of those, it probably wont get in. If US flags were fire-retardant, that'd deny thousands of photo opportunities around the world. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Fowey on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 12:59:00 Thanks for all your comments.
I'm not Iraqi, but a massive fan of Yaser. I will try and find a way of putting STFC on the flag. I will be holding the flag in Block 112 - I've just got to work out how to hold my mosaic tile up and throw my streamer at the same time. :) Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: dave_bambers_right_sock on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 12:59:14 If US flags were fire-retardant, that'd deny thousands of photo opportunities around the world. You sir, win the internet for the day :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 13:50:33 Thanks for all your comments. I'm not Iraqi, but a massive fan of Yaser. I will try and find a way of putting STFC on the flag. I will be holding the flag in Block 112 - I've just got to work out how to hold my mosaic tile up and throw my streamer at the same time. :) Nice. Just tie your flag up on the fence at the front! :) I'm going to keep my streamer for when we scoreor the second half. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 14:32:59 I'm going to keep my streamer for when we scoreor the second half. Have Wembley given it the H&S all clear or are you just taking your chances? Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 15:00:56 Have Wembley given it the H&S all clear or are you just taking your chances? They haven't bothered to reply... £10 spent on one streamer making sure it arrived for Monday morning and the pricks can't even be fucked to respond to my query. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 15:01:55 Let's be honest..... who cares if they give they all clear. If everyone takes a few, some may be unlucky but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 16:27:01 Can I bring my Wiltshire flag or will it offend people from Oxfordshire, Berkshire and Gloucestershire?
(http://theenglandstore.com/images/wiltshirebuzzrd.jpg) Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 16:42:55 Wiltshire has a flag...with a chicken on it!!?
You have just made my week. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 16:55:07 Apparently that's a Great Bustard
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 16:59:14 Alas, it is the Great Bustard.
They've not long reintroduced them to the UK (on Salisbury Plain hence....) Hundreds of years of chalk hill carvings and we go with a chicken looking creature. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 17:06:40 I'm gonna see if I can get me one of these :)
http://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/flags/calne/ Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 17:10:01 Alas, it is the Great Bustard. They've not long reintroduced them to the UK (on Salisbury Plain hence....) Hundreds of years of chalk hill carvings and we go with a chicken looking creature. None of Wiltshire's chalk figures are that old....the really old ones are Uffington (Berkshire) and Cerne Abbas (Dorset). Some recent family history research, produced the interesting fact that many of my forebears were from Cerne Abbas. The claimed but now disappeared hill figures at Foxhill, would have made an interesting flag emblem, mind. There used to be a stuffed giant bustard at the museum in Devizes, which now seems to have cropped up in the museum at Salisbury. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 17:12:23 Are you decended from the Cerne abbas giant Reg? :sherlock: :)
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 17:13:42 Are you decended from the Cerne abbas giant Reg? :sherlock: :) I don't like to boast 4D.... Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 17:18:55 Westbury and Cherill are 18th century, that's hundreds in my book. Westbury legend goes back further. Beats a decade long nature incentive.
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 17:39:12 Westbury and Cherill are 18th century, that's hundreds in my book. Westbury legend goes back further. Beats a decade long nature incentive. Well, of course, time is relative, but the proper old hill figures are a couple of thousand or more years old, whereas the extant Wilts examples a couple of hundred. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 17:42:07 Stonehenge or Avebury it is then...
West Kennet Long Barrow would be great on a flag - a county flag represented by the womb! Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 17:54:46 Stonehenge or Avebury it is then... West Kennet Long Barrow would be great on a flag - a county flag represented by the womb! I'd quite like Silbury Hill.....there's plenty of stone circles in the British Isles, but nothing quite as uniquely strange as the pudding by the source of the Winterbourne and Kennet. OK, I'll give you the mesolithic pink flints found near Amesbury. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 18:49:04 I am unsure if this has been answered as yet but, in order to get flags and instruments into the ground you have to declare it prior. It may well be in your best interest to contact stfc tomorrow to register your flag. Not sure though if this is on poles only or for draping over the hoardings
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 18:56:44 I'm gonna see if I can get me one of these :) http://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/flags/calne/ HELL YEAH!! The kids in my class that play for Calne football have that flag in their tops! Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 19:05:29 Why would anyone be offended by an Iraqi flag? As others have said, might seem a bit odd to some (esp if they don't recognise the flag/realise Kasim is Iraqi) but offended? Maybe he has mice in his loft on now there is a hole in the middle. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 19:07:51 Wiltshire has a flag...with a chicken on it!!? You have just made my week. That's not a chicken City boy 😀 Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 19:13:38 None of Wiltshire's chalk figures are that old....the really old ones are Uffington (Berkshire) and Cerne Abbas (Dorset). Some recent family history research, produced the interesting fact that many of my forebears were from Cerne Abbas. Oxfordshire, surely?The claimed but now disappeared hill figures at Foxhill, would have made an interesting flag emblem, mind. There used to be a stuffed giant bustard at the museum in Devizes, which now seems to have cropped up in the museum at Salisbury. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: suttonred on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 19:17:57 I am unsure if this has been answered as yet but, in order to get flags and instruments into the ground you have to declare it prior. It may well be in your best interest to contact stfc tomorrow to register your flag. Not sure though if this is on poles only or for draping over the hoardings It's a rigmarole that's for sure, some of our lads have spent all week backwards and forwards trying to get our flag in. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 20:49:41 Oxfordshire, surely? The White Horse was in Berkshire for something like 1200 years....good enough for me. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 21:25:07 I see your white horses an raise you stonehenge, Silbury hill and avebury stone circle.
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Mother Brown on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 21:25:43 They haven't bothered to reply... £10 spent on one streamer making sure it arrived for Monday morning and the pricks can't even be fucked to respond to my query. £10 for a frecin bog roll :no:Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, May 21, 2015, 21:46:26 £10 for a frecin bog roll :no: Most of that was for super-fast postage. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: jimmy_onions on Friday, May 22, 2015, 06:43:03 It's a rigmarole that's for sure, some of our lads have spent all week backwards and forwards trying to get our flag in. Does this apply to any old flag or just massive ones? Mine is about 8dt long. Am I supposed to have informed Wembley or the club or something?Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Fowey on Friday, May 22, 2015, 07:00:34 Does this apply to any old flag or just massive ones? Mine is about 8dt long. Am I supposed to have informed Wembley or the club or something? Flags more than 250cm in size at their widest or longest section will not be allowed and flagpoles greater than 1m in length will not allowed. - Permission must be sought in advance from the stadium and event owner to arrange use of the very large supporter flags that are designed to be passed over people's heads. In such cases the flag must be flame retardant and the organiser bringing the flag into the stadium will need to provide the appropriate H&S certification Read more at http://www.wembleystadium.com/TheStadium/StadiumGuide/RulesnRegulations#zDr4TRDETUXmf7s6.99 Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: jimmy_onions on Friday, May 22, 2015, 07:24:34 Gotcha. Cheers.
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: suttonred on Friday, May 22, 2015, 09:54:31 Entry for our flag has been declined. Does anybody have a burning need for some cans of unneeded flame retardant? I'm looking at any resident solvent users, or recovering arsonists in the main..
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: JayBox325 on Friday, May 22, 2015, 11:32:35 Entry for our lag has been declined. Does anybody have a burning need for some cans of unneeded flame retardant? I'm looking at any resident solvent users, or recovering arsonists in the main.. What was your flag and why did it get declined? By 6m x 1m latin banner just got permitted. But they have to hang it up themselves... Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: jimmy_onions on Friday, May 22, 2015, 11:36:41 I know its easy to jump on the 'gawd blimey guvna, its elf and safety gone mad' bandwagon..
but really, this elf and safety business has gone mad. btw Jay, am also a bath red... Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: JayBox325 on Friday, May 22, 2015, 11:38:02 I know its easy to jump on the 'gawd blimey guvna, its elf and safety gone mad' bandwagon.. but really, this elf and safety business has gone mad. btw Jay, am also a bath red... Oh nice! Didn't know there were many others of me. If we win I'll be out and about afterwards ;) Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: jimmy_onions on Friday, May 22, 2015, 11:42:27 I'm not you. I'm me.
Just saying, I live in bath ;-) Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: JayBox325 on Friday, May 22, 2015, 11:51:45 I'm not you. I'm me. Just saying, I live in bath ;-) Haha. Whatever. Well, might see you after the game out in Bath. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: suttonred on Friday, May 22, 2015, 12:10:03 What was your flag and why did it get declined? By 6m x 1m latin banner just got permitted. But they have to hang it up themselves... Don't know the exact size, but its a big bugger, probably 7x 3 meters or very close to it. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: HexstaticSTFC on Friday, May 22, 2015, 12:58:24 Don't know the exact size, but its a big bugger, probably 7x 3 meters or very close to it. The Londons Red flag din't make the cut. Fuck the FL! Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Arnold.J.Rimmer on Friday, May 22, 2015, 13:17:07 What was your flag and why did it get declined? By 6m x 1m latin banner just got permitted. But they have to hang it up themselves... Presumably they've tried to charge you for this service? Title: Re: Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, May 22, 2015, 13:39:02 I reckon its got little to do with health and safety and more that they don't want anyone covering up sponsorship billboards.
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, May 22, 2015, 13:48:01 Posted on the OS this morning
Quote WEMBLEY have advised the club that they will not be approving any more flags wishing to be brought into the stadium. If Town fans have a flag they wish to take with them and it is under 2.5 metres in size and on a pole made of wood or plastic, this will not need approval. However, if the flag is larger than 2.5 metres, it will not be allowed in the stadium. Any smaller, 'hand waving' flags are acceptable providing they are not on a metal pole - this, again, must be either wood or plastic. Should anyone wish to check their flag meets the criteria, please e-mail [email protected]. PLEASE NOTE: anyone attempting to enter the stadium with a flag of any size on a metal pole will have their flags confiscated. http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/notice-on-wembley-flags-2466962.aspx Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 22, 2015, 13:51:16 Posted on the OS this morning http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/notice-on-wembley-flags-2466962.aspx Bloody hell its like North Korea! Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: 4D on Friday, May 22, 2015, 13:52:39 Are we allowed to applaud?
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 22, 2015, 13:53:38 Are we allowed to applaud? Apparently only if its approved before hand.... Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Red Frog on Friday, May 22, 2015, 14:06:18 Apparently only if its approved before hand.... Hands have to be approved to clap? Bloody Wembley. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: donkey on Friday, May 22, 2015, 14:13:53 Hands have to be approved to clap? Bloody Wembley. Sounds like we need a new song...' You can stick your regulations up your arse.' Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Red Frog on Friday, May 22, 2015, 14:19:11 Sounds like we need a new song...' You can stick your regulations up your arse.' Or this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBslXprykHA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBslXprykHA) Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: JayBox325 on Friday, May 22, 2015, 14:46:59 Streamers are officially a no due to the mess they leave being a safety hazard. Good of them to get back to me on the Friday before the Sunday match.
This was the official response I got: "How about coming and just singing and cheering!" How about letting us create an atmosphere and show that Wembley isn't a corporate, boring mess that's a prime example of why fans have become disillusioned with football. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Nemo on Friday, May 22, 2015, 14:51:02 That is a very catty response!
You'll have to speak to them in terms they understand - tell them you want to create a world class customer experience. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, May 22, 2015, 14:53:42 Still don't understand why you'd ask, thus inviting the negative response....
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: WestYorksRed on Friday, May 22, 2015, 15:00:57 Time, instead, for everybody to bring in a Sunday newspaper with all the supplements, rip them up and proceed to chuck the bits everywhere? Recreate the spirit of 1990 and give them a proper clean up job afterwards. Or are newspapers banned as well?
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: JayBox325 on Friday, May 22, 2015, 15:04:09 Still don't understand why you'd ask, thus inviting the negative response.... Because I don't want to take £100 (fan money) worth of streamers just to have them confiscated and never see them again. Time, instead, for everybody to bring in a Sunday newspaper with all the supplements, rip them up and proceed to chuck the bits everywhere? Recreate the spirit of 1990 and give them a proper clean up job afterwards. Or are newspapers banned as well? Definitely bringing a newspaper. Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Nemo on Friday, May 22, 2015, 15:09:38 If you're going on the train you can get a Sunday Telegraph which comes with a handy free water from Smiths at the station and is probably the single largest newspaper on earth, weighing around four tonnes on an average Sunday.
Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, May 22, 2015, 15:09:44 Time, instead, for everybody to bring in a Sunday newspaper with all the supplements, rip them up and proceed to chuck the bits everywhere? Recreate the spirit of 1990 and give them a proper clean up job afterwards. Or are newspapers banned as well? Probably have to be fireproofed Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: jonah on Friday, May 22, 2015, 15:12:47 I went to the new Wembley once. It's was an anodyne experience. Plastic identikit bollocks of a place. They are only too happy for you to bend over and take your hard earned cash for the wanky produce they pass off as food and drink. Vowed never to go back after the one visit. Not surprised that their regulations prevent any form of 'alternative' celebration - sums the shit hole up really.
Good on you Jay for the efforts! Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: WR5 on Friday, May 22, 2015, 18:10:35 Time, instead, for everybody to bring in a Sunday newspaper with all the supplements, rip them up and proceed to chuck the bits everywhere? Recreate the spirit of 1990 and give them a proper clean up job afterwards. Or are newspapers banned as well? this Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: ghanimah on Friday, May 22, 2015, 23:13:24 Time, instead, for everybody to bring in a Sunday newspaper with all the supplements, rip them up and proceed to chuck the bits everywhere? Recreate the spirit of 1990 and give them a proper clean up job afterwards. Or are newspapers banned as well? Usually, because... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millwall_brick Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: OrangeTransits on Saturday, May 23, 2015, 01:38:06 OK,
Vacuum pack all flags and streamers and any other supportive material. Find the largest ugliest bird going in the turnstiles close to you. No Female LESBO security will bother to pat her down properly. Buy the fat bird a couple of beers inside. Proper JOB................ Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 23, 2015, 08:29:03 OK, (http://i.imgur.com/uauihmd.gif)Vacuum pack all flags and streamers and any other supportive material. Find the largest ugliest bird going in the turnstiles close to you. No Female LESBO security will bother to pat her down properly. Buy the fat bird a couple of beers inside. Proper JOB................ Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: kerry red on Saturday, May 23, 2015, 08:46:45 OK, You're not suggesting she sticks it where I think you do?Vacuum pack all flags and streamers and any other supportive material. Find the largest ugliest bird going in the turnstiles close to you. No Female LESBO security will bother to pat her down properly. Buy the fat bird a couple of beers inside. Proper JOB................ Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: RobertT on Saturday, May 23, 2015, 09:36:56 Usually, because... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millwall_brick That is actually quite clever. What is puzzling is how on earth a polo mint was used as an effective weapon? Title: Re: Flag Dilemma Post by: Ells on Saturday, May 23, 2015, 21:35:15 To be fair I think they mean a whole packet of polos (or any hard sweet really) as opposed to just like one of the little mints
With the right intent almost anything solid can be a pretty effective weapon! |