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Title: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 01:02:00
Right, so presuming we are in the play offs, would we rather finish 3rd or 4th?

At least we'd be at home in the 2nd leg but would you rather face Sheffield Utd over 2 legs or Chesterfield* over 2 legs? (*Presumably Chesterfield finish ahead of Rochdale/Fleetwood). Pey!rsonally think we would do Sheff Utd over 2 legs and beat the franchi$e at Wembley!!!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: come on you redssss on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 01:04:47
I'd want us to finish 3rd and beat chesterfield over the two legs and beat the franchise scum in the final


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 01:08:11
I think we will make the PO final and the whole country will want us to beat Franchi$e who I imagine will also make the PO final

An additional question, if we make Wembley, how many will we take? I will say 31,500

Long way to go but best start thinking ahead!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 01:31:24
Hopefully so COYR and we keep the momentum up between now and end of the season.

For anyone who fancies a look at sheff utd forum, they think they will beat us in semis and beat franchi$e in the final, as the whole country will want them to win - no offence but if franchi$e make the PO final they will take less than 15k and whoever they face the whole country will want them to win against Franchi$e, even O*frod?!?! (although probably not)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: herthab on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 07:09:30
I think a lot of people are overestimating the anti franchise feeling. Most people don't give a fuck about how they came in existence.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: gregorybellend on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 07:24:33
I would rather MK go up over you. Along with most city fans.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: hobnob on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 07:29:11
I would rather MK go up over you. Along with most city fans.
Who gives a shit what you think?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: gregorybellend on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 07:35:42
I thought I would shed some light on what other fans thought as a previous poster felt others would rather you go up over MK.



Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Pax Romana on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 07:45:48
As already said, people on this forum over-estimate the level of feeling against MKD nationally.  They are unpopular because of their history and because Winkelman is so nauseating but no more than that.

Is there anyone on here who would seriously prefer Oxford to beat MKD in a play-off final?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: welshred on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 07:49:25
Is there anyone on here who would seriously prefer Oxford to beat MKD in a play-off final?

I would, all day long. The sooner Franchise disappear the better.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: leftside on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 07:49:35
I thought I would shed some light on what other fans thought as a previous poster felt others would rather you go up over MK.


So you'd seriously prefer the Franchise abomination to succeed?

By all means don't wish success for your 'local rivals', but fuck me, you really are a Gummidge if you have any kind of preference for Franchise.




Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: leftside on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 07:50:34
Is there anyone on here who would seriously prefer Oxford to beat MKD in a play-off final?
Yes


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 07:52:35
Is there anyone on here who would seriously prefer Oxford to beat MKD in a play-off final?

Yep, me too. Hate franchise much more than the pox


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: 4D on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 07:54:17
Gregory certainly has the perfect username.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: gregorybellend on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 07:59:20
Gregory certainly has the perfect username.

Only giving my opinions. Your fans and players just haven't done your club proud this year therefore I would prefer MK over you. Out of all the current playoff contenders I would like sheffield United to go up. I think they would over the most to the championship.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: gregorybellend on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 08:02:03
Only giving my opinions. Your fans and players just haven't done your club proud this year therefore I would prefer MK over you. Out of all the current playoff contenders I would like sheffield United to go up. I think they would over the most to the championship.


Offer the most.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 08:02:32
Is there anyone on here who would seriously prefer Oxford to beat MKD in a play-off final?

Yes.

(Though preferably to get out of Conference South.)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Paolo69 on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 08:08:34
Ahhhh. Interesting. So how have our fans not done our club proud this season?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: 4D on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 09:05:28
Whereas the atmosphere at ag was amazing  :)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 09:34:14
Football changing for the worse when people would prefer MKD to lose rather than the Pox.
Very very sad day in my life as a swindon fan.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 09:35:53
I don't understand anything anymore.



Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: tans on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:02:59
Ahhhh. Interesting. So how have our fans not done our club proud this season?

Quite


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: welshred on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:06:52
Only giving my opinions. Your fans and players just haven't done your club proud this year therefore I would prefer MK over you. Out of all the current playoff contenders I would like sheffield United to go up. I think they would over the most to the championship.

Our players who are playing on one of the smallest budgets in the league and gave all but secured a play off place whilst playing some of the best football this league has ever seen haven't done themselves proud? Yeah ok.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:07:54
You do realise you're discussing the random thoughts of a dribbler?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: ExiledEric on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:10:15

Gregorybellend.  The name says it all really. 

I hate Franchise with a passion but if Poxford were playing anyone I'd be supporting the other team.  It's a bit like comparing Goebbels with Hitler though


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:31:36
Bellend by name..


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: gregorybellend on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:34:57
Gregorybellend.  The name says it all really. 

I hate Franchise with a passion but if Poxford were playing anyone I'd be supporting the other team.  It's a bit like comparing Goebbels with Hitler though


Intelligent. I guess your a university graduate?



Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:37:34
Intelligent. I guess you're a university graduate?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:38:16
Be nice Venkman, he's trying.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:40:56
Be nice Venkman, he's trying.
Very trying ;)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:42:04
Football changing for the worse when people would prefer MKD to lose rather than the Pox.
Very very sad day in my life as a swindon fan.
No it isn't. It's fans seeing the bigger picture.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:42:42
Bigger picture?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 10:44:00
Bigger picture?
A club stealing another to get itself into league football. A bigger concern for football in general than club rivalry i'd say.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: welshred on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 11:02:03
A club stealing another to get itself into league football. A bigger concern for football in general than club rivalry i'd say.
Spot on


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 11:04:41
A club stealing another to get itself into league football. A bigger concern for football in general than club rivalry i'd say.

Exactly....although I've always been a bit unhappy about how Headington got voted into the league, on the .back of changing their name. Previously there had been a lack of enthusiasm for them gaining a place as they'd achieved little in non league, or the FA Cup. Always seemed a bit Blatteresque to me.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 11:11:20
A club stealing another to get itself into league football. A bigger concern for football in general than club rivalry i'd say.

Sorry, I miss-read what Banbury wrote!

Yes I quite agree with you, I fucking hate Oxford, but they do legitimately exist and have earned the right to be brilliant or a steaming pile of shite.  Thankfully Oxford are always shite, so that's helpful.



Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 11:38:24
A club stealing another to get itself into league football. A bigger concern for football in general than club rivalry i'd say.

Ffs that sums it up.
However you're entitled to your opinion.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 11:45:00
Sorry, I miss-read what Banbury wrote!

Yes I quite agree with you, I fucking hate Oxford, but they do legitimately exist and have earned the right to be brilliant or a steaming pile of shite.  Thankfully Oxford are always shite, so that's helpful.



MKD just don't exist in my mind thus cannot get emotional about them. They just don't register one way or another.
Oxford ? Well let's just beg to differ. The name, the shirt, everything I detest them with a passion.
Maybe that may help to explain.
The day they went into the conference even despite that we got relegated the same day felt like a promotion it really did. I was buzzing for ages.
Never forget meeting some of my mates on Didcot station on the way home after that game, non Oxford supporters. The sheer joy on seeing them out of the FL mass celebration.
Bristol City don't even come close.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: herthab on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 11:52:27
MKD just don't exist in my mind thus cannot get emotional about them. They just don't register one way or another.
Oxford ? Well let's just beg to differ. The name, the shirt, everything I detest them with a passion.
Maybe that may help to explain.
The day they went into the conference even despite that we got relegated the same day felt like a promotion it really did. I was buzzing for ages.
Never forget meeting some of my mates on Didcot station on the way home after that game, non Oxford supporters. The sheer joy on seeing them out of the FL mass celebration.
Bristol City don't even come close.
Hate is a strong word. I dislike Oxford and both Bristol clubs, love beating them and hate losing to them, but I've known and been friendly with people who support all 3 and we've all got something in common.
'Fans' of franchise however, I wouldn't give the time of day to.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 11:56:44
Oxford is jut another football club that happens to be close rivals due to their proximity as with Bristol, reading ect. Their fans happen to support them because they just happen to come from that particular town/city. If I were born in Oxford, for example, then there'd be a good chance that I'd be an Oxford fan and I think the same goes for the majority of others here.

Franchise, however, is another matter entirely.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Ginginho on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 11:59:30
3rd or 4th? 2nd is still within reach.

FUCK YEAH!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 11:59:55
FUCK YEAH!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 12:04:32
Ffs that sums it up.


yep I suppose it does. The general well being of football in general and the injustice of what Franchise did is more important than any club rivalry, for me at least.
I don't just want them to lose, I want them to go bust and disappear.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 12:08:30
FUCK YEAH!
FUCK YEAH!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 12:09:06

I don't just want them to lose, I want them to go bust and disappear.

Yep, same here and I would not wish that upon any other club. Not even the likes of Oxford.

Rivalries are an integral part of football. Abominations such as Franchise are not..... or at least they shouldn't be.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 12:19:20
Oxford is jut another football club that happens to be close rivals due to their proximity as with Bristol, reading ect. Their fans happen to support them because they just happen to come from that particular town/city. If I were born in Oxford, for example, then there'd be a good chance that I'd be an Oxford fan and I think the same goes for the majority of others here.

Franchise, however, is another matter entirely.

Oxford City are the traditional team of Oxford town.....whereas Oxford University are gown.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 12:27:27
Yep, same here and I would not wish that upon any other club. Not even the likes of Oxford.

Rivalries are an integral part of football. Abominations such as Franchise are not..... or at least they shouldn't be.
Exactly that, Franchise set an example that could ruin football, Oxford are ultimately just another club.

Banbury's just doing his usual cock waving super fan routine which is getting a bit tiresome now.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 12:34:46
Hate is a strong word. I dislike Oxford and both Bristol clubs, love beating them and hate losing to them, but I've known and been friendly with people who support all 3 and we've all got something in common.
'Fans' of franchise however, I wouldn't give the time of day to.

Hate is a strong word and can be described how I feel about them.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 12:40:43
Exactly that, Franchise set an example that could ruin football, Oxford are ultimately just another club.

Banbury's just doing his usual cock waving super fan routine which is getting a bit tiresome now.
Exactly that, Franchise set an example that could ruin football, Oxford are ultimately just another club.

Banbury's just doing his usual cock waving super fan routine which is getting a bit tiresome now.
Bollocks. More to do with history, rivalry and geographical location.
Franchise mean nothing.
For the record have Pox supporting "friends"


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 12:57:41
Right, so presuming we are in the play offs, would we rather finish 3rd or 4th?

At least we'd be at home in the 2nd leg but would you rather face Sheffield Utd over 2 legs or Chesterfield* over 2 legs? (*Presumably Chesterfield finish ahead of Rochdale/Fleetwood). Pey!rsonally think we would do Sheff Utd over 2 legs and beat the franchi$e at Wembley!!!

Regarding your post.
3rd place has a slight advantage over 4th and so on.
Whoever we play and where will be cup finals and league position will go out of the window.
Chesterfield battered us away from home until we scored.
Sheffield United argued that they put up a weakened team against us and still beat us at home.
In that game we missed a fair few chances first half.
What would worry me more is the game at Bramhall Lane. By far the loudest club in the division and s play off game there will be as hostile atmosphere than most of our players have ever played in.
Hoping it wouldn't effect them but it will be very very intimidating.
Therefore avoiding them and finishing 3rd in my opinion is an advantage.
If we do have to play Sheffield United though it will be a strobe advantage not having to go there for a second leg.
If it is the play offs then we are not in a bad place but my nerves are going to struggle with them.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 13:05:49
Got to finish 3rd and play Chesterfield.

I'd fancy Blades to turnover Franchise.

Franchise just know how to beat us


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 13:09:09
I personally can't comprehend how people can possibly hold such hatred for what is nothing more than another football club. I dislike Oxford, I like to see them lose and I'd love to see us beat them but hatred and detest? There's far more important things in the world to save your hatred for, such as the Conservative party, Nigel Farage or Sweden.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 13:28:47
I personally can't comprehend how people can possibly hold such hatred for what is nothing more than another football club. I dislike Oxford, I like to see them lose and I'd love to see us beat them but hatred and detest? There's far more important things in the world to save your hatred for, such as the Conservative party, Nigel Farage or Sweden.

Fucking Swedes, what have they ever done for us?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 13:34:54
I personally can't comprehend how people can possibly hold such hatred for what is nothing more than another football club. I dislike Oxford, I like to see them lose and I'd love to see us beat them but hatred and detest? There's far more important things in the world to save your hatred for, such as the Conservative party, Nigel Farage or Sweden.

Exactly. Elevating football rivalry to the rank of hatred is only for the slightly retarded. Like herthab, I have friends (without inverted commas) who properly support Oxford just as much as I support Town. I like us to beat them, but I  respect anyone who persists in supporting their lower-league team through thin and thinner. On the other hand, I can't even imagine being able to keep civil throughout a conversation with a a Franchise customer (though funnily enough I've never met one). They would have to know how much I look down on them.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 14:33:41
On the other hand, I can't even imagine being able to keep civil throughout a conversation with a a Franchise customer (though funnily enough I've never met one). They would have to know how much I look down on them.

I have the same problem with nouveau plastic fans of clubs, like ManUre, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc.....fair enough, if they can demonstrate proper fandom, like actually knowing a bit about the club, history etc and go regularly to games.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 14:39:22
I personally can't comprehend how people can possibly hold such hatred for what is nothing more than another football club. I dislike Oxford, I like to see them lose and I'd love to see us beat them but hatred and detest? There's far more important things in the world to save your hatred for, such as the Conservative party, Nigel Farage or Sweden.

Agree.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 15:29:34
I can't stand Oxford or even anything  from Oxford,beer, boat crews, Inspector Morse...

Not sure that is hate. Yeah its a bit pathetic, but there you have it. I make no apologies..

PS: conclusive proof. FACT . Sweden is 0.4 better than Norway. Ignore the ret of the stuff underneath

http://country-facts.findthedata.com/compare/178-179/Sweden-vs-Norway


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 15:53:46
I'm with Batch on this.

Anything with an Oxford context that appears on the tellybox is met with a dry spit from me.

I wouldn't consider going to the fucking place for any reason - unless we are playing.

Everything and everyone needs a nemesis.

I'd honestly have to think long and hard if I had a choice of us getting promoted or the Pox falling back to the Conference.

Bizarre I know


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Combe Down on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 15:54:55
I hate Oxford & won't give to Oxfam. I'm glad to see they've been run out of town at last http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11882289.End_of_an_era_as_last_Oxfam_shop_in_Swindon_closes/


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: donkey on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 15:56:21
Interesting stuff on the Pox. Something I'd forgotten was that we were relegated when they went out of the league. I just remember celebrating their demise... No memory of what happened to us. Makes me a bad fan I guess!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 16:19:56
I hate Oxford & won't give to Oxfam. I'm glad to see they've been run out of town at last http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11882289.End_of_an_era_as_last_Oxfam_shop_in_Swindon_closes/
(http://imgur.com/e4cGJbp.gif)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Munichred on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 16:22:01
I hate Oxford & won't give to Oxfam. I'm glad to see they've been run out of town at last http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11882289.End_of_an_era_as_last_Oxfam_shop_in_Swindon_closes/

When I was at (infants) school in the 1950s we divided into Boat Race team supporters. I chose Oxford and still slightly prefer it when Oxford win. Sorry...


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 16:28:50
When I was at (infants) school in the 1950s we divided into Boat Race team supporters. I chose Oxford and still slightly prefer it when Oxford win. Sorry...

HEATHEN. Kill it with fire.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 16:38:27
Being the happy go lucky person I am, I have enough hate for both and a bit left over for the Traders. I'm with Audrey, don't go near Pox unless we're playing and then I won't spend any money or talk to any yellow. When I was younger those cunts have tried to remove my head several times not only at Pox games but at England games as well, albeit I may not have been an innocent bystander on some occasions. I hate the yellow piss stains because of who they are. They really are vermin and don't appear to have any issues intimidating women and children a bit like Millwall. But the Scum have a legitimate right to exist.....in our shadow.
The Franchise, however have no reason to exist. What happened brings shame on the game and those who shrug their shoulders or ignore it should feel shame also. What if their club was to be moved miles away and taken over. Just because it wasn't us, doesn't mean we should ignore it. I hate these bastards for who they are.
Saying that, I'm going to be as "shallow" as Banbury as some would have it. I hate the Scummers more. A lot of history with them. 


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Combe Down on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 16:46:04
Exactly. Maxwell, Bananagate etc. They are scum.

Save the Children & WaterAid are OK, but run, run, run, run Ox-fam.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 16:58:04
Being the happy go lucky person I am, I have enough hate for both and a bit left over for the Traders. I'm with Audrey, don't go near Pox unless we're playing and then I won't spend any money or talk to any yellow. When I was younger those cunts have tried to remove my head several times not only at Pox games but at England games as well, albeit I may not have been an innocent bystander on some occasions. I hate the yellow piss stains because of who they are. They really are vermin and don't appear to have any issues intimidating women and children a bit like Millwall. But the Scum have a legitimate right to exist.....in our shadow.
The Franchise, however have no reason to exist. What happened brings shame on the game and those who shrug their shoulders or ignore it should feel shame also. What if their club was to be moved miles away and taken over. Just because it wasn't us, doesn't mean we should ignore it. I hate these bastards for who they are.
Saying that, I'm going to be as "shallow" as Banbury as some would have it. I hate the Scummers more. A lot of history with them. 

Exactly this. Clearly history plays a massive part as to why I also hate them.
Many encounters in pubs, games, school and would celebrate if they went out of business.
Look first for their results, particularly when struggling.
All through the second half when they were playing Orient my Mate and myself had
radio Oxford plugged in whilst we were Corporate watching Swindon.
When that 3rd goal went in we both got up and received strange looks when dancing around like two lunatics.
You will never get me to change my mind and the only team I HATE.

For the record of course MKD should not exist but they mean nothing to me. Sure their existence is wrong. I would never entertain talking to their fans for the reasons mentioned but they are not Oxford.




Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 17:01:25
I'm no fan of Oxford United, as a football fan.

But I don't understand why people boycott the city just through a football rivalry. I mean, sure if you have personal issue with select people there then I understand. I have friends who live in Thame (not football fans), we often go to gigs and restaurants there. As a city itself it's alright, it's just another place.

I love it when they lose, though.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Pax Romana on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 17:01:45
Quite a contrast between what appears to be the majority view on here (re relative disdain for Oxford & MKD) and what would, I believe, be the majority view of Swindon or any other fans for their respective rivals vs MKD.

Not right or wrong, just interesting.



Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 17:03:18
Don't care.....its a lottery.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 17:09:50
Quite a contrast between what appears to be the majority view on here (re relative disdain for Oxford & MKD) and what would, I believe, be the majority view of Swindon or any other fans for their respective rivals vs MKD.

Not right or wrong, just interesting.



It this was being discussed the other way around by Pox fans I can assure you all MKD would hardly raise a murmur. We are public enemy number one end of.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 17:10:05
Meanwhile, Bellend's going to be very upset that he tried to gate-crash this thread with his anti-Swindon songs and anti-Swindon ravings, and nobody wants to talk about him at all. Reminds me of this John Hegley poem.

Quote
in the playground
the children are playing a game of kiss chase
and one of the children
who seems to want to be chased after
calls out above the screams and laughter
don't chase me!
don't chase me!
and nobody does


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 17:13:29
It this was being discussed the other way around by Pox fans I can assure you all MKD would hardly raise a murmur. We are public enemy number one end of.

To be honest, I don't think it even would among the majority of Swindon fans. Like the TEF herd views on drums, cheese and manatees, I think the debate is pretty much contained within these walls.

Which is why we come to the TEF.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: donkey on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 17:31:50
Meanwhile, Bellend's going to be very upset that he tried to gate-crash this thread with his anti-Swindon songs and anti-Swindon ravings, and nobody wants to talk about him at all. Reminds me of this John Hegley poem.


To be honest, I think John Cooper Clarke had quite a good poem about our bellendious friend...


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 17:49:41
To be honest, I don't think it even would among the majority of Swindon fans. Like the TEF herd views on drums, cheese and manatees, I think the debate is pretty much contained within these walls.

Which is why we come to the TEF.
Actually that is not a bad shout. You are probably right when I think of my Mates I go to football with albeit most of the ones who do originate from Oxfordshire and none post on any message boards.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 18:05:02
It this was being discussed the other way around by Pox fans I can assure you all MKD would hardly raise a murmur. We are public enemy number one end of.

Because Oxford are a relative newcomer their support is defined by an unhealthy obsession with STFC.....let's face it we'd been going for 86 years before we ever played them, hence successive generations of Town fans have developed different views on rivals.  In my case I'd developed a healthy dislike of the Traders, before attending the first ever game v Oxford.

Now my son is late 20's and I think we've played 4 league games v them in his time of proper support, because we've usually been in a higher league, so he doesn't feel anything much about them.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 18:15:03
Then, of course, there a myriad of clubs I heartily dislike for one reason or another.

Watford, for example. Maybe the last time we played them.  FA Cup at Vicarage Road, and we were in a stand with Twatford fans above.

The dirty bastards gobbed on us the whole game.

I also dislike, probably without exception, any Midlands team.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 18:31:09
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Happy hating 8)

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Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 19:43:42
Now my son is late 20's and I think we've played 4 league games v them in his time of proper support, because we've usually been in a higher league, so he doesn't feel anything much about them.

Ooh does he post on here? Can we guess who it is? Is he half-eastern-European? Is it Chubbs? Or Dossy? Or whatsisname from Bosnia who seems to have disappeared?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: RedRag on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 21:10:17
Here are a few pointers to help you out with your seething, raging hatred. If you are unlucky enough to own any of the following, make sure you burn the offending item immediately or at the very least, smash them into small pieces. Although if you do happen to own any of these I don't really know how you can call yourself a Town fan...

Happy hating 8)

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There's a handheld LIBS for alloy i.d. from Poxford International in YELLOW :badmood:


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, April 12, 2015, 21:33:31
Then, of course, there a myriad of clubs I heartily dislike for one reason or another.

Watford, for example. Maybe the last time we played them.  FA Cup at Vicarage Road, and we were in a stand with Twatford fans above.

The dirty bastards gobbed on us the whole game.

I also dislike, probably without exception, any Midlands team.

My hates.

Luton. Cheated us out of the Simod cup

Wolves. cheated us out of the 80  LC final.

West Ham Cheated us out of the Fa cup (late 70's)

QPR, gobbed on us from the upper tier.

Pox, beat up my mate when we were teenagers.

Brizzle rovers. Bricked us at Eastfield

Southend. Bunch of cocks fanwise, and have a fake drum over the tannoy.

Reading. Plastic fuckwits.

Manu Chelsea, Liverpool. Just lame arses.

Millwall, racist horrible pricks


Sure I missed a few, but I hate all of those lot for starters for varying reasons.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, April 13, 2015, 10:25:09
We all have personal hates, both the obvious geographic ones and, as Sutton demonstrates above, esoteric individual ones*.

I'd like think that dislike of the Franchise transcends that, and all fans  of all other clubs are opposed to them on principle.

Certainly social media after they beat Man U suggested they are still disliked with a passion by many, I don't think they are the pariahs they once were. Unfortunately. It's a shame because the more they are accepted, the more likely it is to be allowed to happen again.


*My current list, aside from the obvious

Leeds - Lived there and saw first hand what awful fans they have
Millwall - What Sutton said
Charlton - It's less publicized, but they are basically as bad as Millwall
Bolton - John McGinley
Bournemouth - Constant media rimming of Eddie Howe that never mentions the Russian millions
Rotherham - Steve Evans took my previous hate for Crawley with him.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 13, 2015, 10:29:55
I think a lot of people are overestimating the anti franchise feeling. Most people don't give a fuck about how they came in existence.

Bristol City fans cheered when they heard they were winning on Tuesday, as it impedes us.

Personally... I don't care. You can't take anything into account in the playoffs, it's a total gamble. IF we play to our potential we will beat most teams. I don't want to face MK at any time, they have outdone us twice pretty comfortably.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: kerry red on Monday, April 13, 2015, 10:55:37
If we do go up that's another 2 tasty games to look forward to.

They've gone from being a pimple on me nose to a gigantic boil on me arse!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 13, 2015, 11:40:38
If we do go up that's another 2 tasty games to look forward to.

They've gone from being a pimple on me nose to a gigantic boil on me arse!

The more I think about, the more I think we don't really want to be going up.....either way, next season we're going to need to rebuild the squad....certainly gone....Wes, Stephens, Turnbull, Toffolo, Mass, Swift,  Louis T, Williams, Bartram, Barker, Agombar  :cry:

Possibly remaining....T Belford, Nathan T, Byrne, Branco Rodgers, Gladwin, Kasim, Smith, Obika, Hylton and some kids

Hopefully we can get a very good price for Mass, and so have maybe £300 K or so to buy a couple of promising 150K type players....throw in some loans from Villa etc and we start again.  Seems to me that it's a difficult thing to do, which will be made easier by being in Div 3.

It's a shame, but to take on Championship football, you need to be geared up for it and we're not.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, April 13, 2015, 11:56:21
The more I think about, the more I think we don't really want to be going up.....either way, next season we're going to need to rebuild the squad....certainly gone....Wes, Stephens, Turnbull, Toffolo, Mass, Swift,  Louis T, Williams, Bartram, Barker, Agombar  :cry:

Possibly remaining....T Belford, Nathan T, Byrne, Branco Rodgers, Gladwin, Kasim, Smith, Obika, Hylton and some kids

Hopefully we can get a very good price for Mass, and so have maybe £300 K or so to buy a couple of promising 150K type players....throw in some loans from Villa etc and we start again.  Seems to me that it's a difficult thing to do, which will be made easier by being in Div 3.

It's a shame, but to take on Championship football, you need to be geared up for it and we're not.

I feel like this is a fishing super-negative post... ;) But I'll bite and offer an optimistic response...

If we get promoted I don't think Wes will leave. He's said before he wants to be in the Championship and he mentioned he hopes its with Swindon.

Stephens & Turnbull's logical next step is Championship football which (if we get promoted) we will be able to offer them.

Swift & Toffolo are quite new additions but as with the Saints' players, their next step is Championship football. So the only reason these guys leave is if we want them to.

If Norwich go up, they might loan Louis back to us for at least half of the season in the Championship to get him back to match-fitness..

Willo is a funny one... look at his overall record with us excluding this season and he'll have to take a pay-cut regardless of where he goes. So he could very easily take a cut here and stay (although this won't happen).

Mass is definitely gone regardless though, you're right.

Barker & Agombar... I'm sure we'll live. But you also forgot Ricketts. He'll either go on a free as he's getting a bit older now and re-join us or go back to Wolves.

So yeah... CONSECUTIVE PROMOTIONS HERE WE COME!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 13, 2015, 12:04:09
I think Power's know-how and contacts will help us to leverage the resources available to us, to build a squad that could give us a good crack at staying up in the Championship. He's already shown that he clearly knows his onions.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 13, 2015, 12:09:48
I feel like this is a fishing super-negative post... ;)

Not at all negative....I've consistently backed the approach of the management, for developing young players and the style of football.

I'm happy to see it continue, but feel it will be easier to do in Div 3 than the Championship, which is a different beast to our last time there.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 13, 2015, 12:23:28
I'll counter that with a fuck off Reg, if we go up, back down and end up back where we started then at least we'll have had a season there. As long as we don't do a Yeovil.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 13, 2015, 12:23:45
TBF to Reg yes its negative and based almost entirely upon us NOT getting promoted this season.

Which if that is the case then I can see most of what Reg says as being right.

But it will be a whole new ball game IF we do gain promotion through the play offs in which case I can see almost all of Reg's predictions being wrong.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, April 13, 2015, 12:25:28
I think Power's know-how and contacts will help us to leverage the resources available to us, to build a squad that could give us a good crack at staying up in the Championship. He's already shown that he clearly knows his onions.

Indeed, even assuming we are still going to be run sustainably, the amount of money coming into the Club will rise dramatically in the Championship, and I'd trust Power to spend it wisely

Plus, we've proven to be a good option for Prem clubs wanting to blood their youngsters in L1, presumably this would continue but with better players if we were a level higher.



Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, April 13, 2015, 12:26:25
The more I think about, the more I think we don't really want to be going up.....either way, next season we're going to need to rebuild the squad....certainly gone....Wes, Stephens, Turnbull, Toffolo, Mass, Swift,  Louis T, Williams, Bartram, Barker, Agombar  :cry:

Possibly remaining....T Belford, Nathan T, Byrne, Branco Rodgers, Gladwin, Kasim, Smith, Obika, Hylton and some kids

Hopefully we can get a very good price for Mass, and so have maybe £300 K or so to buy a couple of promising 150K type players....throw in some loans from Villa etc and we start again.  Seems to me that it's a difficult thing to do, which will be made easier by being in Div 3.

It's a shame, but to take on Championship football, you need to be geared up for it and we're not.

Branco Rodgers sounds like a cowboy have you merged them into a single player!

Ultimately everything will depend on where we land come the end of May, no doubt all of your 'certainly gone' players probably will be if we don't get promoted - although hasn't Toffolo made certain hints of wanting to stay?

Our model by its very nature is going to be characterised by a regular churn of players so we should get used to this.

Incidentally if we are in division 3 now we will be in division 2 if we get promoted.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: 4D on Monday, April 13, 2015, 12:33:38
What was your opinion when we got to the prem then Reg?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 13, 2015, 13:01:21
Reg condemned us to relegation this season... and the season before. And condemned us to the scrap heap when jed came in. It's safe to assume he'll be wrong.

We'll be rebuilding whichever league we're in, I'd rather be doing it a league higher where we can attract better players.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 13, 2015, 14:16:30
Reg condemned us to relegation this season... and the season before. And condemned us to the scrap heap when jed came in. It's safe to assume he'll be wrong.

We'll be rebuilding whichever league we're in, I'd rather be doing it a league higher where we can attract better players.

This season I said we could be OK, what with some players like Byrne, Luongo having played full seasons, and so hopefully would develop and others like Gladwin and Branco, having got a foot in door and shown to be up to it...along with Louis showing what a good player he was. The season before when we started to struggle a bit after Christmas, I said we'd need to improve to avoid the sort of scenario Notts County are having....and we did.  Flagging up a possibility is not the same as condemning...

...as regards Jed, I make no apologies for raising doubts about his motives from day 1, unlike a number on here who hung on his every twitter spelling mistake, like he was some sort of Pied Piper.
 
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We'll be rebuilding whichever league we're in, I'd rather be doing it a league higher where we can attract better players

 Fair enough, I'd rather be doing it inn a league where the standard is a bit lower...


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: 4D on Monday, April 13, 2015, 14:19:08

 Fair enough, I'd rather be doing it inn a league where the standard is a bit lower...

Pub league Reg?  :)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 13, 2015, 14:19:37
What was your opinion when we got to the prem then Reg?  :sherlock:

We had a Div 2 team, playing in a Div 3 ground, with a Div 4 set up, playing in the top flight.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: 4D on Monday, April 13, 2015, 14:20:30
We had a Div 2 team, playing in a Div 3 ground, with a Div 4 set up, playing in the top flight.

Them were the days.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 13, 2015, 14:31:23
Fair enough, I'd rather be doing it inn a league where the standard is a bit lower...

What an incredibly daft statement.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 13, 2015, 14:34:25
Them were the days.

We always seem to get things just a bit wrong timing wise....so for example had we rightfully gone up in 90, then with the brand of football and players we had and the relative state of the top flight then, then there was every reason to think we could have held on for a while, and at a time when plenty of money was swilling around for new grounds/new stands etc. who knows, how we'd have done when the Prem came along.

Similarly, if Wilson had taken us up the the Championship, with Black's money still around, players like Ritchie, Austin, Sean Morrison, etc maybe even Greer could have made DV happy and stayed.

Another classic, finishing 4th bottom in the Championship the season 4 go down to adjust the numbers....finishing 5th 78/79, just before 3 points for a win would have seen us 3rd and in an automatic spot.

No, just to annoy Batch, we've had a good season and if we don't go up, I won't be too bothered...


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 13, 2015, 14:47:52
What an incredibly daft statement.

No it's my opinion...the fact that it is not shared by you doesn't make it "daft" any more so than you believing we'd simply attract better players is "daft".   It's your opinion.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 13, 2015, 15:28:02
It's my opinion that your opinion is daft. A fan not wanting his team to play at the highest level possible is daft. A person who spends his entire life as a defeatist is daft


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 13, 2015, 15:34:40
It's my opinion that your opinion is daft. A fan not wanting his team to play at the highest level possible is daft. A person who spends his entire life as a defeatist is daft
I do agree fully, pretty much every fan I have ever known wants his team to play at the highest level for as long as possible, I know I do.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, April 13, 2015, 16:13:32
My opinion is that anyone's opinion of my opinion being daft, is daft... your opinion is your opinion. My opinion is my opinion. Daft or not...

Just my opinion.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: herthab on Monday, April 13, 2015, 16:15:13
You're all wrong and I'm right. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 13, 2015, 16:18:23
It's my opinion that your opinion is daft. A fan not wanting his team to play at the highest level possible is daft. A person who spends his entire life as a defeatist is daft

You are, of course, welcome to your opinion....


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 13, 2015, 16:50:08
You're all wrong and I'm right. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

You're wrong you're not wrong.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, April 13, 2015, 17:56:23
We always seem to get things just a bit wrong timing wise....so for example had we rightfully gone up in 90, then with the brand of football and players we had and the relative state of the top flight then, then there was every reason to think we could have held on for a while, and at a time when plenty of money was swilling around for new grounds/new stands etc. who knows, how we'd have done when the Prem came along.

Similarly, if Wilson had taken us up the the Championship, with Black's money still around, players like Ritchie, Austin, Sean Morrison, etc maybe even Greer could have made DV happy and stayed.

Another classic, finishing 4th bottom in the Championship the season 4 go down to adjust the numbers....finishing 5th 78/79, just before 3 points for a win would have seen us 3rd and in an automatic spot.

No, just to annoy Batch, we've had a good season and if we don't go up, I won't be too bothered...
I agree with all of that Reg, especially the 1990 team. I would say we were overall a better all round team than in 1993. There wasn't the vast chasm between the top and second tiers that there is now (or even in 93 for that matter). There was also a strong rumour at the time (which I believe to be true) that Hoddle was going to join as a player. If only it hadn't been for Carol Whatsername - whatever did happen to her I wonder?

HOWEVER.

WRT 'we don't want to go up this season', I could not disagree more. Let's face it, it's going to bloody bollocking hard in the Championship whenever we go up (I believe we will at some point). As for the players who you think are 'certainly' gone - Wes, Stephens, Turnbull, Toffolo, Mass, Swift, Louis T, Williams, I would say only Mass and Louis T are the only certainties to go. If we stay down then yes, of course they are all certainties to go, I would agree in that instance.

I would have thought the next logical step with Swift, Stephens, Turnbull and Toffolo, as it was with Alex Pritchard, would be to play in the Championship. They might as well do that with Swindon (assuming Cooper wanted them) where they know the system and players, as anywhere else. In any case, I have a feeling we will sign Toffolo, even if we stay down.

In conclusion, now is as good a time as any 'in my opinion' to go up.

God I hope we do.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 13, 2015, 18:14:20
If we want to keep this side together, we have to go up. What happens if we don't depends on how shrewd Town are in the transfer market.

The End.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, April 13, 2015, 18:19:30
If we want to keep this side together, we have to go up. What happens if we don't depends on how shrewd Town are in the transfer market.

The End.
Yes. It's too much to expect Cooper and Power to build a new team every summer and expect to be pushing for promotion every time.

The End.

Full Stop.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 13, 2015, 18:41:03
No, just to annoy Batch, we've had a good season and if we don't go up, I won't be too bothered...

You utter utter utter utter utter utter cunt.

The End. Full stop. So sayeth Batch.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 13, 2015, 18:49:26
I agree with all of that Reg, especially the 1990 team. I would say we were overall a better all round team than in 1993. There wasn't the vast chasm between the top and second tiers that there is now (or even in 93 for that matter). There was also a strong rumour at the time (which I believe to be true) that Hoddle was going to join as a player. If only it hadn't been for Carol Whatsername - whatever did happen to her I wonder?

HOWEVER.

WRT 'we don't want to go up this season', I could not disagree more. Let's face it, it's going to bloody bollocking hard in the Championship whenever we go up (I believe we will at some point). As for the players who you think are 'certainly' gone - Wes, Stephens, Turnbull, Toffolo, Mass, Swift, Louis T, Williams, I would say only Mass and Louis T are the only certainties to go. If we stay down then yes, of course they are all certainties to go, I would agree in that instance.

I would have thought the next logical step with Swift, Stephens, Turnbull and Toffolo, as it was with Alex Pritchard, would be to play in the Championship. They might as well do that with Swindon (assuming Cooper wanted them) where they know the system and players, as anywhere else. In any case, I have a feeling we will sign Toffolo, even if we stay down.

The assumption that some of these players may stay if we go up, is really based on nothing more than guesswork especially the loan boys.....take for example someone like Grant Hall, not wholly convincing in his season with us, yet Spurs wanted him in the Championship this....but not good enough for Brum and ended up with Blackpool. Jon Swift, not considered good enough for Rotherham, so Chelsea happy for him to go to Div 3....my point being that relying on other club's DoF's is a bit hit and miss. How many of us last season would have had Mason winning an England cap, after 20 odd injury hit games for us.

I would prefer a situation whereby we use this season's success, to maybe acquire a few more of our own players, like Gladwin, Branco, Kasim style, with small investments, like Luongo, Smith, Byrne and build a side that could go up and stay together for at least a first season at a higher level...
....not an easy thing to do at our present level, easier to do than in the Championship.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: kerry red on Monday, April 13, 2015, 18:56:19
Got to agree with Reg on this.

We can't progress with half the team made up of other club's players.

We need our own with maybe 1 or 2 loanees


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 13, 2015, 18:59:34
Got to agree with Reg on this.

We can't progress with half the team made up of other club's players.

We need our own with maybe 1 or 2 loanees

Yep. Because it hasn't worked this season, has it? ;)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: kerry red on Monday, April 13, 2015, 19:03:47
Well it wont progress the club though, beyond 1 season.

We can't keep changing the team every season as the old loanees go back and we have to ship in new ones and hope for the best.

Plus it gives less chance of one of our players shining and becoming a saleable asset.

Sure it's fine short term but it's no way to build a club


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Paolo69 on Monday, April 13, 2015, 19:07:12
There's more than one way to skin a cat though.

Reg is only talking about next season because we're doing well this season anyway.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 13, 2015, 19:08:24
The prospect of not progressing in the long run with other clubs players is precisely the reason we need to go up. There are no guarantees we will be competitive whichever league we are in next year, so if we have to start again then lets go up and see who we can convince to come on loan.

If we are happy to stay in division 3 we may as well be Crewe, and then what's the point of it all.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 13, 2015, 19:11:53
Plus it gives less chance of one of our players shining and becoming a saleable asset.


And we've always had a selection of available assets in the past? When was the last time we sold more than one player for a reasonable lump of cash?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: 4D on Monday, April 13, 2015, 19:13:18
 Got to stick our head above the parapet at some point.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, April 13, 2015, 19:15:32
This thread:

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Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 13, 2015, 19:19:44
And we've always had a selection of available assets in the past? When was the last time we sold more than one player for a reasonable lump of cash?
12/13 we sold Ritchie and Flint.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Combe Down on Monday, April 13, 2015, 19:26:50
When I was at (infants) school in the 1950s we divided into Boat Race team supporters. I chose Oxford and still slightly prefer it when Oxford win. Sorry...

Some toffs from Cambridge just beat some toffs from Oxford in the final of University Challenge 255-105   Get in there!  :clap:


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 13, 2015, 19:30:26
If we are happy to stay in division 3 we may as well be Crewe, and then what's the point of it all.

That'll be the Crewe who've had 6 seasons in the second tier since we were last there, and have a level 2 Academy compared to our level 3.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: RedRag on Monday, April 13, 2015, 20:53:13
Reg is only talking about next season because we're doing well this season anyway.
Isn't it time to call a halt on optimistic posters like Reg with their big club fancy talk....who says there will be a "next season".  I've always looked on fulfilling a fixture list as an achievement in its own right.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 13, 2015, 20:58:40
Quote from: Reg Smeeton
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If we are happy to stay in division 3 we may as well be Crewe, and then what's the point of it all.
That'll be the Crewe who've had 6 seasons in the second tier since we were last there, and have a level 2 Academy compared to our level 3.

I don't care about the academy level, but 6 years in the championship, really. well that backfired badly.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, April 14, 2015, 06:17:40
The assumption that some of these players may stay if we go up, is really based on nothing more than guesswork especially the loan boys.....

You are the one saying they are 'definitely gone' Reg, that is guess work. I'm just saying it's not necessarily the case. You are just coming up with the bleakest scenario and presenting it as 'fact!' - not like you at all  ::)

I would prefer a situation whereby we use this season's success, to maybe acquire a few more of our own players, like Gladwin, Branco, Kasim style, with small investments, like Luongo, Smith, Byrne and build a side that could go up and stay together for at least a first season at a higher level...
....not an easy thing to do at our present level, easier to do than in the Championship.

You see, I would say the opposite is true. There is more chance of investing in our own players if we are in the Championship with way more money coming in, than if we are in the league below.



Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, April 14, 2015, 08:30:45
You are the one saying they are 'definitely gone' Reg, that is guess work. I'm just saying it's not necessarily the case. You are just coming up with the bleakest scenario and presenting it as 'fact!' - not like you at all  ::)

You see, I would say the opposite is true. There is more chance of investing in our own players if we are in the Championship with way more money coming in, than if we are in the league below.

None of them are contracted for next season, or have stated openly they're looking elsewhere, not so much guesswork, but a thought based on normal practice.....further Power has stated he's confident of being able to rebuild in either Div, basing the side on what we have left.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: adje on Tuesday, April 14, 2015, 16:33:11
Some toffs from Cambridge just beat some toffs from Oxford in the final of University Challenge 255-105   Get in there!  :clap:

didnt just beat ' em,fucking destroyed  'em!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Ironside on Tuesday, April 14, 2015, 16:49:52
Reg is like an old dog who hasn't even got the ability to drag his tired old arse outside for a shit but just craps all over himself instead, but then pretends he didn't see it coming.

Probably should have been put down years ago...


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, April 14, 2015, 16:57:57
Although it is just guess work, it's not outrageous to assume that Town will lose all the 'hits' this summer.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, April 14, 2015, 17:43:32
The whole do we/don't we want to go up argument is spurious any way, given that we can't control what happens. We'll go up or we won't. If you could guarantee that next season we would have a better squad, more geared up to surviving in the Championship then you may well say, "I think we'll wait another year".

Meanwhile, back in the real world, this is probably our best chance of promotion to the second tier of football in a long, long time and this chance may not come around for another 20 years if at all, as far as any of us know. I happen to think we are as ready for it now as we ever will be and I sincerely hope the players grab the chance with both hands and we can all celebrate long and hard.

Then, when the fixtures come out we can all start fretting about how hard it will be to stay up. But that's for another day.

God I hope we go up SO much.



Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: JayBox325 on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 00:56:01
I have just booked a hotel room at the Chesterfield Travelodge for £45 with free cancellation up to the day and one at Sheffield Premier Inn for the same price with the same cancellation deal...

I'd recommend getting on that ;)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Gnasher on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 06:05:19
I have just booked a hotel room at the Chesterfield Travelodge for £45 with free cancellation up to the day and one at Sheffield Premier Inn for the same price with the same cancellation deal...

I'd recommend getting on that ;)

They're only 10 minutes drive apart, so either hotel would do! :-)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Hoboken on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 06:08:33
Without getting too far ahead of ourselves,  IF we got to Wembley AND Sheffield United got there, too AND we lost the coin toss... would we end up playing in purple?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: welshred on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 06:41:46
Without getting too far ahead of ourselves,  IF we got to Wembley AND Sheffield United got there, too AND we lost the coin toss... would we end up playing in purple?

It matters not. The purple curse was banished at Doncaster.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 07:06:34
It matters not. The purple curse was banished at Doncaster.
I'm pretty sure that IF that set of circumstances played out though, they would come out with a brand new kit.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 07:27:50
I have just booked a hotel room at the Chesterfield Travelodge for £45 with free cancellation up to the day and one at Sheffield Premier Inn for the same price with the same cancellation deal...

I'd recommend getting on that ;)

You probably only needed one, they're so close to each other.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: JayBox325 on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 08:07:25
Yeah, but I'm super lazy. It's easy enough to cancel one (or both).

Anyway, just means I've booked a room before any of the Franchise customers can ;)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: kerry red on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 08:10:44
Am I right in thinking that our game in hand comes after we play Preston?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 08:12:58
Yes, it's Col U away the Tuesday after


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 08:14:33
yes. Colchester away. though we'll have two games in hand come Saturday.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 09:04:55
I'm pretty sure that IF that set of circumstances played out though, they would come out with a brand new kit.

How about a nice white kit like Wembley 69  :sofa:


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 09:07:36
Beckford went off injured last night, hope he stays injured for Friday minimum. Cmon town!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 09:25:56
So, Preston have 3 away games left to play and us, of course, at home.  The dirty franchise have 3 home games and an away day at Rochdale to contend with, hopefully 'Dale will still have something to play for by then, they also have an Orient side still fighting for their lives this weekend so could be a tough fixture. 

It's not over yet.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 09:36:05
If I go glass half empty for a minute and we end up fighting it out in the Playoffs, I do think the youth of the team will be a benefit. They'll all be raring for it, especially if when we make it to Wembley. With Gladwin on form, Nath, Louis, Branco, Kasim back, we'll be set I think. Just need Smith and Willo to be firing again, but if they continue their bit of a grey patch I have faith in Hylton and Obika.

If we end up at Wembley again I am 100% sure we're going to remove the hoodoo. 100%.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 09:41:56
So, Preston have 3 away games left to play and us, of course, at home.  The dirty franchise have 3 home games and an away day at Rochdale to contend with, hopefully 'Dale will still have something to play for by then, they also have an Orient side still fighting for their lives this weekend so could be a tough fixture. 

It's not over yet.

I'd now say Franchise are marginal favourites, due to fixtures and superior goal difference.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 09:44:14
I'd now say Franchise are marginal favourites, due to fixtures and superior goal difference.

That makes me feel so very, very sick.  If they go up and we don't I may never go home, my French social security has been in waiting for 10 years now...


Title: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 10:10:55
surely Preston are still favourites. we still need someone else to beat them imo. it's a tough ask for it to be us, though not impossible.

anything can happen. mk drew with vale not long ago for example


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 10:25:06
surely Preston are still favourites. we still need someone else to beat them imo. it's a tough ask for it to be us, though not impossible.

anything can happen. mk drew with vale not long ago for example

I said a while ago that 91 points would probably seal an auto....Franchise can get that with 4 wins, we can get it with 5 wins and Preston with 3 wins. What makes it difficult for us is that Preston could lose to us, win their 3 away and still get auto on GD.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 10:30:01
 What's not been massively commented on as far as I can see, is that last night means a point on Saturday will at least guarantee 4th, which considering Blades were right up our arse this time last week is good.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 11:28:37
I said a while ago that 91 points would probably seal an auto....Franchise can get that with 4 wins, we can get it with 5 wins and Preston with 3 wins. What makes it difficult for us is that Preston could lose to us, win their 3 away and still get auto on GD.

Not if we beat them 6-0 Reg!
I think the best approach for the team is to consider auto promotion as dead and buried.  I'd hazard a guess that 3rd & 4th place teams generally do better in play offs but that a team heart broken and spent after going all for auto might come unstuck.  I have not checked the stats, but my memory banks of 1993 support this view.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 11:32:46
Can someone remind me of the order of the play-offs


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 11:36:40
Can someone remind me of the order of the play-offs
First you have the Semi Finals, followed by the Final.


I'm here all week....


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 11:52:10
Can someone remind me of the order of the play-offs

Both first legs on Thursday, May 7. Second leg on Sunday 10th (1215) or Monday, 11th (1945). The second legs are not determined by position so no knowing until the end of the season.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: bathford on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 11:53:49
First you have the Semi Finals, followed by the Final.


I'm here all week....

Briliant.. PMSL!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 12:12:22
Both first legs on Thursday, May 7. Second leg on Sunday 10th (1215) or Monday, 11th (1945). The second legs are not determined by position so no knowing until the end of the season.

3 v 5 & 4 v 6 ?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 12:15:23
3 v 5 & 4 v 6 ?
3v6 4v5


Title: Re: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 18:32:31
Not if we beat them 6-0 Reg!
I think the best approach for the team is to consider auto promotion as dead and buried.  I'd hazard a guess that 3rd & 4th place teams generally do better in play offs but that a team heart broken and spent after going all for auto might come unstuck.  I have not checked the stats, but my memory banks of 1993 support this view.
In this league since 1990 and Wembley finals, 3rd and 4th have won 16 out of 25 play offs at 8 each but that's only because 4th placed teams have won 4 in a row. Never has one finishing position won 5 consecutive finals!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 18:52:13
I'm being realistic, in the main, that our best prospect of promotion now is via the Play Offs.  But there's also a part of me that keeps repeating that everything that has happened up until now is merely scene-setting for the most incredible last minute surge to automatic promotion we've ever seen.

Unlikely?  Yes.
Plausible?  Definitely.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: red sheldon on Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 19:35:25
Given a choice I would choose MK's position out of the 3 options, but I think that for us its either 2nd or 4th, I think if we can beat Preston (which is a big ask) then we could just sneak it, but I just dont see us getting 3rd, no real reason or logic to it though


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Tails on Thursday, April 16, 2015, 08:55:46
I'm being realistic, in the main, that our best prospect of promotion now is via the Play Offs.  But there's also a part of me that keeps repeating that everything that has happened up until now is merely scene-setting for the most incredible last minute surge to automatic promotion we've ever seen.

Unlikely?  Yes.
Plausible?  Definitely.

I'm with you. In my head I'm certain we're gonna go on a crazy winning run that will see Nathan Thompson score a 30 yarder in the 94th minute against Orient that seals promotion!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Thursday, April 16, 2015, 21:20:22
Pre Easter weekend, I mentioned to my grandad who lives on the outskirts of Colchester that I'd like to watch the game if we had anything to play for as it was our game in hand. He took it to mean that I was going, so I couldn't back out and I bought tickets. Post Easter weekend, it looked a stupid idea and a waste of petrol and money, but now like a few of you I think it might be a pivotal game especially if Preston slip up or we beat them.

It can't happen, can it?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, April 17, 2015, 06:17:38
Pre Easter weekend, I mentioned to my grandad who lives on the outskirts of Colchester that I'd like to watch the game if we had anything to play for as it was our game in hand. He took it to mean that I was going, so I couldn't back out and I bought tickets. Post Easter weekend, it looked a stupid idea and a waste of petrol and money, but now like a few of you I think it might be a pivotal game especially if Preston slip up or we beat them.

It can't happen, can it?
I believe it can, yes. But there's the problem. After the MK game I was convinced we couldn't win the play offs, let alone make the autos. Then we win a couple of games (one convincingly) and PNE and MK drop points and I'm back to thinking maybe just maybe...

That's when you normally get the rug pulled from under your feet and we fail to beet Yeovil   :doh:

Where does your gramps live out of interest?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Friday, April 17, 2015, 07:02:31
I believe it can, yes. But there's the problem. After the MK game I was convinced we couldn't win the play offs, let alone make the autos. Then we win a couple of games (one convincingly) and PNE and MK drop points and I'm back to thinking maybe just maybe...

That's when you normally get the rug pulled from under your feet and we fail to beet Yeovil   :doh:

Where does your gramps live out of interest?

He lives in a village called Stebbing, it's between Stanstead airport and Braintree.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, April 17, 2015, 07:04:36
He lives in a village called Stebbing, it's between Stanstead airport and Braintree.
Ah yes, I know it (I know where it is any way). I used to live in Braintree, I'm the other side of Colchester now.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Friday, April 17, 2015, 07:11:02
How bad is the M25/M11 likely to be on a Tuesday afternoon/early evening?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Boeta on Friday, April 17, 2015, 07:12:58
I have just booked a hotel room at the Chesterfield Travelodge for £45 with free cancellation up to the day and one at Sheffield Premier Inn for the same price with the same cancellation deal...

I'd recommend getting on that ;)

Is that assuming that we finish 4th and if so then we are definitely away 1st leg??


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, April 17, 2015, 07:38:55
Is that assuming that we finish 4th and if so then we are definitely away 1st leg??

If you finish 3rd or 4th, you are away first leg.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: kerry red on Friday, April 17, 2015, 07:50:43
Is the Orient game defo on a Saturday 3.00pm KO


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Friday, April 17, 2015, 08:04:11
Is the Orient game defo on a Saturday 3.00pm KO

No.  Sunday 3 May 1215 KO. 

All the Lge 1 final games were switched to the Sunday at 1215.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: kerry red on Friday, April 17, 2015, 10:15:15
Bollocks!

Have to wangle work


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, April 17, 2015, 10:50:52
How bad is the M25/M11 likely to be on a Tuesday afternoon/early evening?
You never know with that bastard road, could be OK, could be a nightmare. The earlier you can leave the better I would say.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: OrangeTransits on Friday, April 17, 2015, 20:42:08
2nd


Title: Re:
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Saturday, April 18, 2015, 20:42:28
Town are 11/4 to win the playoffs. Sheffield Utd 9/4, Chesterfield 4-1 and Franchise 10/3. Seems poor value on Sheffield Utd and giving us more favourable than you's expect from home advantage.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Crispy on Monday, April 20, 2015, 09:09:02
10/3 about MK seems like the bet there... If they don't go up second.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Power to people on Monday, April 20, 2015, 11:47:18
Preston or Franchise for 2nd spot ?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 20, 2015, 11:57:10
Preston or Franchise for 2nd spot ?

If you mean who so we want to make it, That depends if a) we get to the final, b) MK get to the final. If either one is a no, then Preston. got that crystal ball?

Or if you mean who do we think will make it, the momentum is with MK, but I still reckon Preston.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 20, 2015, 12:27:26
I think MK are gonna snatch it. I think that might benefit us for the playoffs, but I really dont want them to go up.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: kerry red on Monday, April 20, 2015, 13:04:39
I don't give a shit if Franchise go up if that makes it easier for us to do likewise.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, April 20, 2015, 13:06:57
I don't give a shit if Franchise go up if that makes it easier for us to do likewise.

I don't want MK to go up at all. But if it means we go up with them... I'll take that. But when it comes to deciding between PNE or MK... I'll take PNE any day. But unfortunately we don't get to choose. The most we can do is cheer on Chesterfield in the POs.

Revenge for 2012.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 20, 2015, 13:13:49
I don't give a shit if Franchise go up if that makes it easier for us to do likewise.

I give a shit, I'd much rather that abomination achieved as little success as possible. If I were offered us winning the play-offs and them going up in the auto's, however, I'd bite your arm off for it.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Power to people on Monday, April 20, 2015, 13:47:10
As per most I dont think I fancy meeting Frachise so unfortunetly that means wanting them to go up above preston, I thikn they wil ltake 2nd spot they seem t obe scoring freely last couple of games and preston have a touch of the wobbles

It just frustrates the hell out of me with this team everytime there has been a glimmer of hope of 2nd spot we seem to mess it up - it is the pressure - hopefully not as the play-off pressure will be unbearable if so


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, April 20, 2015, 13:50:10
I give a shit, I'd much rather that abomination achieved as little success as possible. If I were offered us winning the play-offs and them going up in the auto's, however, I'd bite your arm off for it.

FUCK YEAHHH!! (And fuck Franchise)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 20, 2015, 13:52:10
FUCK YEAH!


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: kerry red on Monday, April 20, 2015, 14:42:34
I give a shit, I'd much rather that abomination achieved as little success as possible. If I were offered us winning the play-offs and them going up in the auto's, however, I'd bite your arm off for it.
Which is what I meant, really


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, April 20, 2015, 15:37:59
I've just gotten in touch with Sheffield United and Chesterfield asking about what we'd be allowed to do in an away end for the play offs.

I'm thinking about doing another Port Vale but on a bigger scale... more balloons, more streamers, more banners etc.

I was also thinking about possibly organising a mural in the away end of Wembley SHOULD we get there. Any thoughts?

:)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: leftside on Monday, April 20, 2015, 19:53:06
I was also thinking about possibly organising a mural in the away end of Wembley SHOULD we get there. Any thoughts?
"Fuck Off Franchise!" with a picture of Winkelman sprouting devil horns and being sucked off by faceless FA minions.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 20, 2015, 20:22:58
"Fuck Off Franchise!" with a picture of Winkelman sprouting devil horns and being sucked off by faceless FA minions.

That sounds like a Jim 'll Paint it picture (https://www.facebook.com/JimllPaintIt)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: RedRag on Monday, April 20, 2015, 21:12:09
We never are offered trade offs in real life but if we were and if I was given a cracking run of form and results leading to the Play Offs and no injuries or suspensions but with an unlucky defeat at PNE that saw Franchise have to take 3rd, I'd accept.





Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: leftside on Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 06:47:58
I was also thinking about possibly organising a mural in the away end of Wembley SHOULD we get there. Any thoughts?
Smart
Rogers
McLoughlin
Hoddle
Maskell
Taylor
Bodin


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Munichred on Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 08:00:25

I was also thinking about possibly organising a mural in the away end of Wembley SHOULD we get there. Any thoughts?

:)

Any chance of us getting the home end?


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 08:11:39
Any chance of us getting the home end?

Yeah, I just re-read it this morning and though it doesn't have an away end. It has two equal ends ;)


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Hoboken on Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 12:11:50
Yeah, I just re-read it this morning and though it doesn't have an away end. It has two equal ends ;)

If we're wearing purple, we're in the away end...


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 12:30:11
If we're wearing purple, we're in the away end...

If we get to Wembley we'll be playing MK or Chesterfield (probably). So it'll either be White v All Red or Blue v Red.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 12:50:29
Or Preston


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 15:04:13
 Hopefully we'll be spending plenty of time practising pens, our last 3 semis have all gone that way.. 1 win 2 defeats.

 Pens have been a bit of an Achilles heel already this season.....you could argue that it has cost us at least 3 points, sufficient to still be in te auto race  :(


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: REDBUCK on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 15:19:58
Not as much as our defending which has cost us 18 points, enough to be top


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 15:58:31
Not as much as our defending which has cost us 18 points, enough to be top

Whilst I'm not defending our defence, you could easily show opportunities of missed chances that would have cost us points, or where decent goalkeeping / defending has gained us.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, April 23, 2015, 08:21:01
For the Play Offs (If we're allowed to play a game without Ricketts in the lineup...) my formation would be:

.......................Wes.......................
....Stephens, Thompson, Turnbull.....
...............Kasim....Luongo..............
..Byrne...........Gladwin..........Toffolo..
............Obika..........Williams............

Then definitely bringing on Hylton and Swift at some point.



Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, April 23, 2015, 08:50:39
I think we will have Louis available for the play offs.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: REDBUCK on Thursday, April 23, 2015, 09:00:37
Whilst I'm not defending our defence, you could easily show opportunities of missed chances that would have cost us points, or where decent goalkeeping / defending has gained us.

I was trying to make that point, badly obviously, that you can't highlight specific bits over others we just need to be more consistent and more ruthless either with these players or others.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, April 23, 2015, 09:34:41
I think we will have Louis available for the play offs.

Only for the final apparently. The extra 2 weeks is what will bring him back in. But it's up to Norwich to let him play in the Play Offs or not.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Tails on Thursday, April 23, 2015, 10:10:35
I think we will have Louis available for the play offs.

Don't get your hopes up


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, April 23, 2015, 11:24:15
Don't get your hopes up

A story has come out today saying that there's an outside chance he could return for the play offs but again, it comes down to Norwich.


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Tails on Thursday, April 23, 2015, 12:39:32
The only game he'll be even the smallest bit likely to feature in is the final, if we get there.


Title: Re:
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Thursday, April 23, 2015, 19:18:57
If Louis did return it could be like John Moncur in 1993. He had been injured for most of the season but came back in for the Tranmere games and was a revelation


Title: Re: Play offs - 3rd or 4th
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, April 24, 2015, 07:17:16
"The fixtures for the semi-finals have been confirmed following discussions with Sky Sports"

that is what is wrong with football. Fuck off sky!


Title: Who knew?
Post by: Combe Up on Saturday, February 24, 2018, 07:52:56
I hate Oxford & won't give to Oxfam. I'm glad to see they've been run out of town at last http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11882289.End_of_an_era_as_last_Oxfam_shop_in_Swindon_closes/