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Nowhere else to put this, so I'll start a new thread.

I found myself wondering this morning: what is the lowest scoreline that the club has never recorded in a competitive fixture?

I have no idea.  Anyone?

I don't even understand the question!

Probably 0?

I suspect I have misinterpreted the question....

Sorry I don't either.

I understand.

We HAVE recorded 0-0, for example, so that doesn't count. As do 1-1, 2-1, 2-2, 3-2 and so on. So what is the lowest scoreline that we have not recorded?

But then... different combinations of scores can give the sames number of goals scored. So I;m not sure what is meant by lowest scoreline!

Sounds like we need 4D to solve this one

Or wait for Ardiles to sober up.

I'm not wholly convinced we've ever had a 5-5 draw...

If it's our score you mean then we've had everything up to 10.

Stop it.   ;)

Flash gets it.  Come on fellas.  Football trivia.  Swindon trivia!  It's brilliant!  Indulge me, please.

I'll reiterate for the hard of understanding.  What is the most likely football score that we've never had?  (This is one of many such questions I'll ask myself on a Saturday morning.)  Scores like 1-0, 2-1 and (sadly, today) 2-2 are commonplace.  We all know we've had many of these.  Less often, we'll get a 3-3 or a 5-0, but we've all seen these too.  We've had a 6-4 (missed that one) and a 7-1 (my stag weekend) in the last 20 or so years.  So what is the lowest score we have never had?  Have we ever had a 5-4?  If we have, what about a 6-5?  THere is an answer there somewhere, and I hope someone out there (other than Richard Banyard or Reg) is smart enough to know the answer.

Plenty more questions where this one came from.

We had 5-4 a few years back v Posh. (Well 4-5) Does it have to be 5-4 to us?   Pretty sure 5-5 is your answer.

I did see a 5-5 once, but it was Oxford vs Pompey with a Pompey supporting mate (early 1990s).  Pompey were 5-3 up with 1 minute to go, and Oxford scored just before the whistle, kicked off and scored again.

Could be the answer though.

It's 5-5  ;)

You lot are rubbish.  I was raking leaves up this morning and contemplating various STFC related conundrums and expecting to have a complete Swindon geek/stat-fest on here later.

I'm going to keep posting questions up on here just to irritate the tits off you.  You'll bite eventually.

One hundred years ago yesterday we got stuffed 3-0 away to Cardiff away, by the way.  Only to redeem ourselves a week later with a 4-0 home win vs Exeter.  (Reg will corroborate.)  One of the scorers that day was Billy Tout, signed by the legendary Sam Allen in 1905.  His career at the Club extended for an impressive 15 years (ie to just the other side of the Great War).  His final games were played early on in the 1920-21 season, our historical & inaugural season in the Football League.

But where's the question?

It will come.

Just to indulge you for a few moments, Billy's last game for us was on 6 November 1920 in a 5-0 defeat away to Millwall - but we got our revenge against them only a week later in the return match at the County Ground with a 4-1 victory.  It was common practice in those days for matches to be played in pairs, one week apart.

I think the "swindon-town-fc.com" stat site will one day become invaluable but as long as there is breath in our Reg it is a little redundant - 5-5 is indeed, surprisingly, the lowest score Swindon have never had.

http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/StatAttack/TeamResults.asp?Type=HighScoring

But we have had a 6-4. How is that not the same scoreline as a 5-5? What are the parameters?

a 6-4 win is not a 5-5 draw?

Yes.

Ardiles only mentioned a scoreline. But maybe he had a win/draw/loss in mind?..... Ardiles?

eh?

6-4 and 5-5 are different scorelines

10 goals were scored is what I am getting at. How is one a 'lower' score line than the other?

I should have articulated myself better.

Scoreline is another way of saying Match Result.  It doesn't mean the total number of goals scored in a game.

To give Ardiles something to do...

I had a conversation with a mate this morning who is big buddies with one of our 1980s players.  He said the player (a little surprisingly) talks very fondly about his time at the Town, and likes to tell one story in particular...We played Bristol City one evening and the place was packed to the rafters and beyond, gave them a stuffing and the CG was rocking.  Then the crowd was announced as 8900, to widespread guffaws.  The next day we signed Jimmy Quinn, with the players suspecting the tiniest possibility that it could have been paid in cash with the additional revenue from the City game...

So how true are those events?  Or have they grown arms and legs over the intervening years???

It is? Well if that's the case, then I stand corrected!

I meant score in my head (ie 5-5 being different from 6-4), but didn't explain it well...so apologies for that.  Will do better next time.  Looks as if 5-5 is the winner then.

And Christy...no idea.  : )

I think we need a new quiz-master.

I suspect a growth of appendages....we signed Jimmy Quinn from Oswestry Town, I happened to know the person responsible for his acquisition, who told me, that Quinn was the best header of a football he'd ever seen, however there were other elements of his game that needed work.

The crowd that season for Shitty was a little over 6K, less than what we'll get when we play them soon (maybe depending on call-ups)

That was a regular occurrence when the attendance was announced.

Anyone with the slightest mathematical ability could roughly guess the crowd knowing what the capacity of each stand was.

Must have been so tempting in the days of cash on the gate not to siphon it off

I'm still waiting for the next question to come up.....think we could easily do a 5-5 draw this season.

Youngest Swindon side (ie with the lowest aggregate age)?

Bert's Babes (early 1960s) vs Cooper's Kids (now).  I'd imagine the winner from this one will be from one of these two eras.

The youngest team is Head's from 1962 v Reading. The next youngest also come from that era but Cooper's are the next. The oldest squad come from just after the war. The link has more.

http://m.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/11522544.THE_WASHBLOG__Cooper___s____kids____are_helping_us_get_an_early_night/

Wasn't the gate thingy related to the brown paper envelopes the players received?  We under reported cash taken at the turnstiles and used that to pay players cash in hand, avoiding taxation for both parties.  Hence why both the FA and Inland Revenue came after us once the woman who tried to invest got given short shrift by the board.  She tipped off the People and the summer of 1990 was born.

Or maybe I've tied together lots of hazy memories badly?

edit: a quick trawl does indeed back-up the gate receipts being one of the reasons for Hillier receiving a prison sentence.

I think your memory is a bit hazy. I thought it was established that it was Hillier's own money in the brown envelopes apart from the money Lou won on betting on us to lose. The whistleblower was none other than Slave Trader Smart. There was a lady who I used to know who got the blame but it was nothing to do with her.

The betting money was to cover bonuses.  The IR case was brought against individuals for not reporting accurate sales and using the funds to avoid taxation, according to reports on their sentences - Lou was found not guilty:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/football-club-chairman-in-tax-case-jailed-1536652.html

Most of Bert's early sides had Sammy Burton or Maurice Owen in, which bumped up the average age, now Maurice played 44 games in 61/62....but Sammy was starting to be phased out a bit...

Of the 2 games Maurice missed that season, neither contained Sammy, for the first in January at Dean Court the average age was 20.72, but for the second at Elm Park, I'll offer this as the youngest ever STFC side...

O' Hara 17
Wollen 18
Trollope 18
Smart 19
Woodruff 21
Chamberlain 26
Ernie Hunt 18
Jack Smith 25
Bill Atkins 22
Jackson 20

Average age 20.18

By way of contrast Saturday's was 21.81

The following season either of Maurice Owen or Ken McPherson played centre half evey game so upped the average as the youngsters got a bit older.

I stand corrected

One for the stattos.

When's the last time we had 3 players each score 15+ in a season?

Potentially could happen this season

Fallon parkin and Mooney?

I have a feeling it was Allison, Finney and Horlock in 95/96 div 2 title season.

Fallon only got 7 that season.

1995-1996
Allison 20
Finney 16
Horlock 16

And before that it was 89-90...

Shearer 27
White 27
McLoughlin 17

Aaaaaaaand before that it was 82-83:

Rideout 23
Rowland 20
Pritchard 15

As if potentially going top next Saturday was not enough to get excited about, it's also my birthday.  So, of course, I had to look up our record on November 29th to get an idea of how we might get on.

Incredibly, in the 25 seasons I have been a supporter, this game will be only the 4th occasion that we have had a league game on that day.  And we have yet to win.

On this Day: November 29th (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/OnThisDay.asp?date=29+november)

The 3-3 draw vs Peterborough in 1992 (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=19930119) was televised.  I watched it at college as the resident Swindon fan and embarrassed myself in front of everyone when Nicky Hammond ballsed up his call for one of their goals.  I know a lot on here remember it.

The 2-0 defeat up at Hartlepool in 2003 (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=20040120) was a game I was at.  One of the coldest I can remember.  Ever.  It was a London Reds away weekend...and the night out in Newcastle afterwards almost made up for it.  I met Bob's Orange that day who had driven down from Edinburgh.

The other game was a 2-1 defeat away at Walsall in 2008 (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=20090118), which I have no memory of.

So we can make a little history next week and chalk up our first November 29th league win since 1986 - 2-0 at home to Carlisle (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=19870118), since you ask.  Fingers crossed for something along the lines of the result we recorded 90 years to the day beforehand - a 5-0 home win vs Northampton (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=19250118).

[All credit, as ever, due to the magnificent www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk.]

I was born on 8th June.  I don't think we've ever won on that day.

Hope you have a great day, pal...and three points to boot.

It wasn't just 'one of their goals', it was their equalizing goal and totally ruined what would have been an utterly epic away day.If only I could forget it. I will never, ever forgive Hammond for that.*




*I realise that probably makes me small minded and petty but....meh....whatever....

What's our consecutive scoring streak? Unless I've missed one I don't think we've not scored in the league since Crawley which was 16 games ago.

 NO.	DATES	                                    CONSECUTIVE MATCHES SCORED IN  
 1	December 28, 2003 to April 24, 2004	    21  
 2	March 25, 1986 to September 27, 1986	    18  
 3	August 23, 2008 to December 6, 2008	    17  
 4	May 3, 1995 to October 28, 1995	            16  
 5	August 19, 2014 to November 22, 2014	    16 

Fuck me, I got something right :)

Yeah but you've jinxed it now. Well done. 0-1 loss to Fleetwood next week then and all your fault!

The stats for 2014 are in:

http://the72.co.uk/20896/2014-the-football-league-in-stats/

...and someone's idea of the L1 Team of the Year:

http://the72.co.uk/20895/league-one-team-of-the-year-2014/

Defence: Nathan Byrne – Swindon Town

He may be a defender on paper, but it is Byrne’s attacking traits which have really caught the eye this season. It is rare in a full-back to have both lightning speed, and quality. Usually a compromise has to be reached between the footballing gods and only one is chosen. But there is no doubting either trait when it comes to the Swindon Town man.

His rapid feet have been a burden to his fellow defenders all season, and his quality on the ball is clear to see. The 22-year-old has racked up nine assists this season, making him not only City’s top provider, but the League’s. He can finish as well, contributing three goals so far this season.

Uh, city's top provider?

The Iraqi midfielder has played a pivotal role in Swindon Town’s surge up the table this campaign. His quick feet and ability to keep the ball under pressure means he can bring others into play with ease. Mark Cooper has brought a style of sexy football to the club, and Kasim is the metronome at the heart of it.

IF there is one action to sum up just how well his season has gone so far, it would be his outrageous double nutmeg versus Port Vale, and a stunning finish in the same game.

I don't remember this happening?

The first bit is accurate, however:


The double nutmeg was against Sheffield United and he didn't score in that game or against Port Vale.

Still, nice to have two players in the first eleven.

They also credited Rovers with City's fewest games lost.