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Title: Ryder Cup
Post by: kerry red on Wednesday, September 24, 2014, 13:17:20
Don't know if many on here are interested, but this is my favourite sporting event of the year - apart from football.

Watching some of the world's greatest golfers crumble under the pressure of being in a team environment is fascinating.

US captain, Tom Watson, has got defeat written all over his face already.

Surely it cannot produce the excitement of Medina again.

Roll on Friday!


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: DMR on Wednesday, September 24, 2014, 13:25:31
I can't wait. For me, the Ryder Cup is only just about topped by an Ashes series. Football a distant third (or fourth...)

I'm a bit wary about 2 of our rookies though (I think Dubuisson will go well) and all of our wildcard choices. Westwood is fucking dump and Poulter hasn't played any good golf since the last Ryder Cup. McGinley is a good, shrewd lad but he's not an absolute legend like Tom Watson - who has engineered an away win as captain before. Accordingly, I have a nagging feeling we might get pipped.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, September 24, 2014, 13:28:44
Not generally a big fan of golf, but usually end up watching the last few hours on the Sunday.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 24, 2014, 13:31:22
I always thought Dave was under 50  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, September 24, 2014, 14:45:45
Love Ryder cup, probably the only Golf on TV that I go out of my way to watch.  I am with DMR, I think we will get pipped, mainly because a lot of people seem to think it will be an easy win because the Europeans have one most of the big tournaments this year...

Ryder cup is a totally different beast, form means nothing.  The only thing I am not looking forward to is the US fans insistence to be the first to yell "get in the hole" on every fucking yank tea shot, does my head in.  The fact that Sky Sports strap line for the Ryder Cup is "bring the noise" does not help...


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, September 24, 2014, 15:52:41
The only thing I miss about not having Sky Sports, will just have to record the BBC highlights.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Summerof69 on Wednesday, September 24, 2014, 17:07:42
Love Ryder cup, probably the only Golf on TV that I go out of my way to watch.  I am with DMR, I think we will get pipped, mainly because a lot of people seem to think it will be an easy win because the Europeans have one most of the big tournaments this year...

Ryder cup is a totally different beast, form means nothing.  The only thing I am not looking forward to is the US fans insistence to be the first to yell "get in the hole" on every fucking yank tea shot, does my head in.  The fact that Sky Sports strap line for the Ryder Cup is "bring the noise" does not help...

Mostly agree Bernie...except Europe has the edge, with playing at home, that the Americans still have 'team issues' as only one player turned up prior to the Open to have a practice round with the Captain, and the Americans still have the mental scars of Medinah.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, September 24, 2014, 18:36:14
Watson looks far from a beaten man to me. I think he will be an inspirational captain.
 I too think the yanks will win. Will be close though.
Followed Westwood for half his round on Sunday and gave up as he was so shit. Donald should have been picked I fear. The Rory, gmac friction a concern.
Whatever the result it will be brilliant. I love it.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, September 24, 2014, 18:50:12
Love my golf but the Ryder Cup has never really grabbed me. Prefer the Majors everytime, guess I just see as an individual sport I suppose.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 24, 2014, 19:50:34
Never been into other golf at all, unless pitch n' putt counts.

Always liked the Ryder Cup, but the last one was one of the greatest sporting contests I've ever seen. Brilliant comeback.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Wednesday, September 24, 2014, 20:44:24
Can't wait for this - love the Ryder Cup - normally dislike/disinterested in golf unless it's this or a trip to the driving range! Think Europe will win once again - EUROPE! EUROPE! EUROPE!


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, September 26, 2014, 09:33:22
Gallacher has been very poor, he really needs to get going on the back 9 or I have a feeling we won't see him again until Sunday


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, September 26, 2014, 10:04:19
Gallacher has been very poor, he really needs to get going on the back 9 or I have a feeling we won't see him again until Sunday

That said, Poults hasn't been great either


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: DMR on Friday, September 26, 2014, 10:05:15
Gallacher has been very poor, he really needs to get going on the back 9 or I have a feeling we won't see him again until Sunday

Spot on.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Nemo on Friday, September 26, 2014, 10:12:02
I have no interest in golf generally but I always get hooked on the Ryder Cup, not least because golf on the radio is ace.

Gallagher and Webb Simpson can probably sort out a day trip of some sort for tomorrow.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Arriba on Friday, September 26, 2014, 10:42:17
You need at least one of the pair to pick up birdies in a four ball or you have no chance.
Poulter and Gallagher have been shit and don't have a birdie between them yet.
Also the reason stenson and rose just won their point with ease


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, September 26, 2014, 16:34:06
Tough decision for McGinley tomorrow.
Mcilroy & Garcia have been poor today, does he drop them, split them up or give them a chance to redeem themselves.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, September 26, 2014, 16:38:28
Tough decision for McGinley tomorrow.
Mcilroy & Garcia have been poor today, does he drop them, split them up or give them a chance to redeem themselves.

This afternoon McIlroy & Garcia have hardly hit a fairway this afternoon, at the least said about Garcia shank the better.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Nemo on Friday, September 26, 2014, 16:54:59
And that's why he's world number one. Decent shot Rory.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, September 26, 2014, 16:58:02
And that's why he's world number one. Decent shot Rory.

I assume you're talking about his putt on 17...and not the drive on 18 where he hit a tree...


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, September 26, 2014, 17:29:57
Europe leads 5-3 after day 1...


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: kerry red on Friday, September 26, 2014, 17:36:32
Brilliant viewing!

Working all day Sunday unfortunately😭


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: DMR on Friday, September 26, 2014, 19:01:02
If Rory and Sergio get it going they could shoot a real low one, especially in the 4balls. They have to play tomorrow.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Arriba on Friday, September 26, 2014, 19:06:10
Europe got away with it by the skin of their teeth today. Watson sending mickelson out after a difficult morning was a huge bonus considering his rookies were fresh and won with ease earlier.
Gmac and dubisson will be well pissed off not going out tomorrow morning after that result this afternoon


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: kerry red on Friday, September 26, 2014, 19:35:36
Nobody seemed able to find the fairway off the tee.

Fucking amateurs!


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Friday, September 26, 2014, 19:47:35
Pretty chuffed to be 5-3 up, especially after that morning, and a cracking afternoon for Europe.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, September 26, 2014, 20:20:55
If Rory and Sergio get it going they could shoot a real low one, especially in the 4balls. They have to play tomorrow.

Paired with Poulter!!! bold move but one which could come good after Poulter let himself down and also his rookie partner was shocking too. He needs a boost and Mcllroy will provide that for him i think


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Munichred on Saturday, September 27, 2014, 06:54:54
Any recommendations for live streaming?


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Saturday, September 27, 2014, 07:12:33
Any recommendations for live streaming?

Try these.  Pick Sky Sports 4 from the first one:

http://atdhe.ru/

http://sportsstreams.eu/flch_nke1du99pv02/sk_xjp922yk4ewx.php


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, September 27, 2014, 10:50:25
The scoreboard is turning Red  :(


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, September 27, 2014, 10:59:29
Rory playing well, but seems to be playing on his own on most holes.

Rose & Stenson have been great & so have Furyk & Mahan.

Reed & Speith have also played very well.

Looks like 6-6 at lunch today, unless Rory can do something spectacular.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Bewster on Saturday, September 27, 2014, 11:16:07
Rose was immense


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, September 27, 2014, 11:29:30
Let's hope that gets Poulter going, an amazing shot


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, September 27, 2014, 16:44:46
That's it. Game over. Watson has made some fatal errors and handed it to us. :pint:  :beers:  :clap:


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Summerof69 on Saturday, September 27, 2014, 17:39:00
That's it. Game over. Watson has made some fatal errors and handed it to us. :pint:  :beers:  :clap:

Fully agree. Keeping players like Fowler playing when they were mentally tired, has been a big mistake. Being a Ryder Cup Captain is a totally different animal than when he last did it 21 years ago. For Europe, you have to be a vice-captain, before you're given the captaincy (except for Faldo...and we know how well that turned out), so you've experienced the stresses and strains.

Even though, the Americans have seemed to struggle in the afternoon when the wind has got up.

I like the look of Dubuisson. People forget that he was the runner-up in the World Matchplay earlier in the year.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: donkey on Saturday, September 27, 2014, 17:54:35
Isn't it about time we let the yanks have the rest of the world to even things up?


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Summerof69 on Saturday, September 27, 2014, 18:03:19
Isn't it about time we let the yanks have the rest of the world to even things up?

Nope. They play the RoW in the President's Cup....and the US normally win that.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Batch on Saturday, September 27, 2014, 23:35:34
That's it. Game over.

After the last one I'm never saying that until it really is over!


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 12:28:31
Early days yet, but there's a lot of Red on the scoreboard.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 13:32:36
Even though Patrick Reed has played well this weekend...he is a total cock.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 15:32:39
EUROPE WIN


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 15:45:09
Ole ole ole ole  :beers:


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 17:36:45
Even though Patrick Reed has played well this weekend...he is a total cock.

He is an American version of Ian Poulter.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 17:53:59
I'm not much of a body language expert but I don't think Phil Mickelson thinks much of Watson.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 21:27:15
Great few days of golf, and again brilliant to stick it to the Yanks by winning the Ryder Cup for 3rd time in a row and 8th in last 10.  :beers:


Title: Re: Re: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, September 29, 2014, 05:35:27
I'm not much of a body language expert but I don't think Phil Mickelson thinks much of Watson.
In the end it didn't need a body language expert to figure that out. Utterly classless from Mickelson. Watson may have made some poor decisions, but a man with his standing in the game deserves better than that.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, September 29, 2014, 08:00:30
Refreshing honest from Phil I thought.

Probably not the time or place but its nice to hear genuine opinions rather than the generic responses in defeat that most would come out with .


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: DMR on Monday, September 29, 2014, 08:31:55
In the end it didn't need a body language expert to figure that out. Utterly classless from Mickelson. Watson may have made some poor decisions, but a man with his standing in the game deserves better than that.

Should Watson be exempt from criticism just because of his standing in the game? Of course not, he had a shocking Ryder Cup and he should be under the spotlight.

By your logic, you can't criticise Phil either - he's won 5 majors.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 29, 2014, 09:39:53
Watson was a dreadful captain. I thought he would have them bang at it but it was the opposite. His selections were shocking and mickelson cares and told it like it is. Fair play to him.
Compare this to the detail McGinley put in and the unity of the European team. That's why they won with relative ease.

The only thing that grates me is that most of the proud European team hardly play in Europe. They should play more for the tour they represent in the Ryder cup.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: DMR on Monday, September 29, 2014, 10:25:36
The only thing that grates me is that most of the proud European team hardly play in Europe. They should play more for the tour they represent in the Ryder cup.

Agree but given 3/4 majors, the Players and all the WGC events are in the USA, they're always going to be inclined to play over there. Coupled with the ridiculous Fedex prize money, there's no incentive to play in Europe. $1m for winning the Race to Dubai, or $10m for winning the Fedex...


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Paolo69 on Monday, September 29, 2014, 12:22:29
While Phil may have some valid points his outburst did smack a bit of toys firmly being fired out of pram.

"He wouldn't let me play Saturday and I wanted to therefore he's useless!"


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, September 29, 2014, 21:34:02
While Phil may have some valid points his outburst did smack a bit of toys firmly being fired out of pram.

"He wouldn't let me play Saturday and I wanted to therefore he's useless!"

But he did let him play in Friday afternoon & Mickelson was rubbish.

For me his comments show the problem with the US in Ryder Cups.
They think & play as individuals and are more than happy to throw a teammate/captain under the bus if they can deflect criticism from themselves.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: 4D on Monday, September 29, 2014, 22:24:08
I see Europe won, it was on the news.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 8, 2014, 14:23:54
 A distinct honour for David Howell.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/29538002


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 26, 2016, 15:35:25
 So....the questions for our resident golf chaps and chapesses.

1/ Post Brexit, should we dump the continentals and compete as UK again?  2/ Given Trump's standing in the game is the US team even more the industrial/military complex at play, especially if he becomes president, so is any contest appropriate?


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, September 26, 2016, 15:49:44
1. No, it's US v Europe not US v The EU
2. Yes, Trump doesn't have a standing in the professional game, he owns a few courses/complexes.

Golf isn't politics, well aside from its outdated internal politics


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 26, 2016, 15:57:04
1. No, it's US v Europe not US v The EU
2. Yes, Trump doesn't have a standing in the professional game, he owns a few courses/complexes.

Golf isn't politics, well aside from its outdated internal politics

1.  They fly the EU flag.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, September 26, 2016, 16:05:11
1.  They fly the EU flag.

A Tour spokesman said: "In terms of the flag flown to represent the European Ryder Cup team, we consider that the blue and gold flag of Europe represents the continent of Europe and, as a broad symbol of Europe as a whole, we therefore plan to continue to use it."

http://www.espn.co.uk/golf/story/_/id/16476712/europe-ryder-cup-team-keep-eu-flag-brexit


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 26, 2016, 16:13:31
A Tour spokesman said: "In terms of the flag flown to represent the European Ryder Cup team, we consider that the blue and gold flag of Europe represents the continent of Europe and, as a broad symbol of Europe as a whole, we therefore plan to continue to use it."

http://www.espn.co.uk/golf/story/_/id/16476712/europe-ryder-cup-team-keep-eu-flag-brexit

At least they've thought about it....not sure what the Farageistas at the 19th Green will make mind.


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, September 30, 2016, 16:33:52
First session and Europe are falling apart.

Rory needs to win his match, 4-0 down will be a tough start to come back from


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, September 30, 2016, 16:35:08
First session and Europe are falling apart.

Rory needs to win his match, 4-0 down will be a tough start to come back from

FFS, Sullivan has now dumped his tee shot in the water :(


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Nemo on Friday, September 30, 2016, 17:05:45
Europe out to 6/1 already. Quite tempted by that.


Title: Ryder Cup
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 30, 2016, 18:18:07
given them a head start this time to even it up a bit


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, September 30, 2016, 18:41:32
given them a head start this time to even it up a bit

Hope your right, you have to believe that Europe need 7 points from the next three sessions to give them a chance in the singles


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: 4D on Sunday, October 2, 2016, 08:28:06
Some of the yank fans are a bit excitable  :)


Title: Ryder Cup
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 2, 2016, 08:43:29
we clawed it back but couldn't keep it. that miss what would have been a half in the fourballs. .... tough last day I think


Title: Re: Ryder Cup
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, October 2, 2016, 15:26:11
Singles then. McIlroy vs Reed should be great, best players on either side. Both sides are front loading their best players so early European wins would throw the door open.