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Title: Lee Power
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 12:26:26
I appear to have missed whatever has happened with Mr. Power to engender hatred towards him from a large amount of the fans. Can someone elaborate for me please?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 12:34:02
I appear to have missed the hatred itself.  Is this a twitter thing?  Any examples to hand?

I'm still not 100% sure about him, to tell the truth.  Not that I have any reason to doubt what he has achieved on the football side so far.  It's just that he has chosen to stay in the shadows.  Maybe he just prefers it that way; or maybe there is something out there that he wants to hide.

Problem is, Swindon fans have an ingrained dislike for lack of openness/transparency that took root during the Diamandis era.  We like to be able to make informed decisions based upon info provided freely (where possible) by those running the show.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 12:34:57
Maybe Lee will log on and open up.  Everyone else has lately.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 12:56:33
I've noticed the recent surge hatred, but can offer no help in explaining it. Asides from blaming it on twitter that is.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 12:56:41
I appear to have missed the hatred itself.  Is this a twitter thing?  Any examples to hand?

Quote
Chris Dalton ‏@ChrisDGuitarist 16 Nov

#POWEROUT this man should be nowhere near our football club! STFC family needs to unite behind Jed to remove him #fanpower

Luke Hodgson ‏@Snr_luke_2k13 22h

@BBCWiltshire come on town, need three points today. Can see a win away at last hopefully...btw #powerout
from Swindon, Swindon

Luke Hodgson ‏@Snr_luke_2k13 21h

@BBCWiltshire why didn't u read my hashtag. Most important part of the tweet! #powerout and u missed it (a bit like everyone else is doing)

I don't really follow twitter all that much anymore, but those were the first that popped up when I searched for #powerout.

Basically people look like they're annoyed with him being involved with the club but only being in the country x days a year, and that he secretly owns it, and that he fell out with Ranger and that's why he's gone awol etc. etc.

I'd just like someone to explain why a) they believe these things to be true, b) why they waited so long to call for his head, and c) why calls for power out have suddenly snowballed over the weekend. I don't disagree, simply don't know!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 12:57:56
Twitter went mad for some reason re Power yesterday

stfcredarmy ‏@davidshaun66 16 Nov
#powerout

emma stfc goodall ‏@emmag892 16 Nov
@KimYoun40033730 @ajferguson85 @laurenstfc @STFC_Laura we will be if lee doesn't go! Look at his previous!Need him gone before it's to late

Andy STFC Potter ‏@reefer77 16 Nov
@JedMcCoy if yor worried (like we are) about someone on a "power"trip then get rid.... The fans are behind u n the club

Ollie Tanswell ‏@ollietanswell 23h
Lee Power can fuck the fuck off

emma stfc goodall ‏@emmag892 22h
Seeing power and cooper together has made me so cross!!! A) power is a twat!! B) power is a twat!! C) yeah you get my point!

Chris Dalton ‏@ChrisDGuitarist 16 Nov
#POWEROUT this man should be nowhere near our football club! STFC family needs to unite behind Jed to remove him #fanpower

I have no idea what that was all about  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 12:59:27
Quote
emma stfc goodall ‏@emmag892 22h
Seeing power and cooper together has made me so cross!!! A) power is a twat!! B) power is a twat!! C) yeah you get my point!

Ah, I see she's answered my questions...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 13:10:43
I appear to have missed the hatred itself.  Is this a twitter thing?  Any examples to hand?

I'm still not 100% sure about him, to tell the truth. 

So what I saw on twitter was accusations of some kind of past business link to Diamandis. I originally thought something factual must have come out the woodwork, but it seems nobody has anything of the sort??

I can understand and kind of agree with being wary of Power, partly because from the outside it looks like he is controlling the club (whether that's correct or not) and partly because once bitten twice as shy.

If a link had appeared with Diamandis I think we'd all have worried!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 13:29:34
Obviously caution is the watchword here, but unless any facts/evidence come to light I can't see why we should jeopardise what has, so far, been a good thing for the club. We wouldn't have the team we do without him, and he's obviously an investor. We're 6th in the table, in the semis of the JPT, and in much better shape than I thought we would or could be 6 months ago. Doing business with Diamond Mike in the past (if that is true) doesn't necessarily mean he's letting him in through the back door now so to speak.

Look, if it turns out he's secretly been selling off fan's organs for dogmeat then I will hold my hands up, but attempting to crucify him for whatever reason with no real evidence is just likely to drive him away. Didn't Murrall say in the other thread we're not quite self-sustaining yet? Driving away an investor for whatever political or personal reasons a certain group have just seems ridiculous when there is little reason yet to be worried about him. I can understand the worries about him being a 'silent backer', but really, for Power to be out, he'd have to be in first...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 13:35:42
but really, for Power to be out, he'd have to be in first...

But is he in ??
Must be in in some form or other to be bringing in someone new esp one Jed knew nothing about.Something just a mere backer wouldnt have the privilege to do

And for someone not in he seemed to be having plenty to say to Cooper before yesterdays game.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 13:36:03
Don't think anyone will disagree with that Honkytonk.

A link with Diamandis would be concerning to me though.

But regardless I still think its  understandable to be wary of some shadowy figure in the background calling the shots. Even if it turns out to be positive.

Not sure this explains a #powerout-athon on twitter.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 13:39:18
But is he in ??
Must be in in some form or other to be bringing in someone new esp one Jed knew nothing about.Something just a mere backer wouldnt have the privilege to do

And for someone not in he seemed to be having plenty to say to Cooper before yesterdays game.

I think this is where most of the conjecture is coming from- it's like the bloody hokey cokey as far as his involvement is concerned.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 13:46:39
I imagine people are still sore about his companies putting up their prices well ahead of inflation again.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: DiV on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 13:47:20
Well, otanswell seems clued up enough on the hate to join in and say Power can fuck the fuck off. So he can elaborate then can't he?

Unless he's bandwagoning and full of shit?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 14:00:35
The only thing I know about this, or remember, was how when Jed et al took over, a load on here were getting their knickers in a proper twist over everything and kept going on about how Power is trouble and that him and the board will be picking the team and Cooper is the perfect puppet. Or something similarly sensational.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 14:08:12
The only thing I know about this, or remember, was how when Jed et al took over, a load on here were getting their knickers in a proper twist over everything and kept going on about how Power is trouble and that him and the board will be picking the team and Cooper is the perfect puppet. Or something similarly sensational.

I think Power was being hyped up as a DoF which is why the claims he would be picking teams arose.
Esp as the spurs players seemed to be coming in on the back of Powers connections.

Of course Fredi muddied the waters by saying Jed didnt own the club but Power did


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 14:22:23
So are all these people who are slagging Power off going to stump up the cash t o buy him and the rest of the board out? The phrase 'Put your money where your mouth is' seems apt.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 14:29:39
Aside from the lack of transparency about his role/position that I alluded to earlier, the only thing that really bothers me in the discussion above is the unsubstantiated rumour about a link to Diamandis.  If that were proven, I would be hunting out my pitchfork and joining forces with the rest of them.  Is there any basis for the rumour at all, or is it just internet talk?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 14:29:59
Well, otanswell seems clued up enough on the hate to join in and say Power can fuck the fuck off. So he can elaborate then can't he?

Unless he's bandwagoning and full of shit?

From the Steve Murrall thread today

Hi Steve

Can you send me Lee Power's number so I can call him a prick please.

Thanks


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 14:32:31
I too am confused why Lee Power is suddenly the spawn of satan.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 14:39:01
Aside from the lack of transparency about his role/position that I alluded to earlier, the only thing that really bothers me in the discussion above is the unsubstantiated rumour about a link to Diamandis.  If that were proven, I would be hunting out my pitchfork and joining forces with the rest of them.  Is there any basis for the rumour at all, or is it just internet talk?

The Supporters Club asked Jed this in May, he didn't know of a link then

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/10406655.print/

doesn't answer your question, but does show the alleged "link" has been discussed for quire some time.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 14:42:02
The only link to Diamandis is, AFAIK, spurious to say the least because both of them have a history of running publishing/printing companies which have gone to the wall.



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 14:45:03
The Supporters Club asked Jed this in May, he didn't know of a link then


To be fair to Jed he knew nothing of Powers latest addition either

Perhaps Jed just doesnt know a lot  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 15:14:01
I too am confused why Lee Power is suddenly the spawn of satan.
I'm guessing its fear of the unknown. Apart from one or two short quotes in the Adver, that's all anyone has heard from him. People therefore assume the worst because that's what turns them on and, as so often happens, they stir each other up into a frenzy of wailing and gnashing of teeth on Twitter and the cyber-lynch mob becomes self perpetuating.

One decent length interview with the Adver or BBC should hopefully knock most of it on the head. Those ass holes on Twitter need to put up or...

(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/have-a-cold-glass-of.jpeg)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 15:24:30
Power does have quite a chequered past history - aside from the business failures, neither Rushden nor Cambridge fans were terribly enamoured of his time at their clubs. But it's probably better described as "chequered" rather than outright shady AFAIK. And while I share the misgivings about the apparent secrecy surrounding the exact nature of his involvement here, I'm equally baffled about the apparent sudden surge of anger, maybe tans can enlighten us?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 16:20:51
I love the Twitter mongs. Two of them quoted on the previous page spend most of their time on the site arse licking McCrory like the bloke is some sort of God.

If Power is picking the side then he isn't doing too badly really, is he?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 16:26:08
I've read the thread and have no idea what's going on, and why the sudden angst?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 16:29:00
I've read the thread and have no idea what's going on, and why the sudden angst?
No one knows - It's just Twitter bollocks AFAIK*

*What does AFAIK actually mean? I thought it was a Swedish football team ???


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fatbasher on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 16:29:57
No one knows - It's just Twitter bollocks AFAIK*

*What does AFAIK actually mean? I thought it was a Swedish football team ???
as far as I know


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 16:47:36
I've read the thread and have no idea what's going on, and why the sudden angst?
We are in the Top 6 and people need some stuff to moan about as usual.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 16:51:45
Trouble is, Twitter offers an outlet for the social misfits and downright insane


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 17:10:02
as far as I know
Thanks...KIWBSO*

*which of course means...knew it would be something obvious :nod:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: ghanimah on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 17:18:58
Trouble is, Twitter offers an outlet for the social misfits and downright insane

Just Twitter...?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 17:19:38
I think it's hilarious how a few people are trying to start a protest movement to get rid of Power when nobody has any factual evidence of any wrongdoing or how he is a negative influence on the club. Is this all on the back of a new finance bloke coming in? I have to confess that when I read that Anderson was involved at Cre8 I was a little concerned but it's hardly grounds for panic.

Probably the same group of individuals who wanted rid of KMac then wanted rid of Cooper when he took over and now have nothing else to moan about.


Title: Re:
Post by: herthab on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 17:52:38
There's a small but vocal contingent who follow Swindon that are complete bellends.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 17:53:30
There's a small but vocal contingent who follow Swindon that are complete bellends.
Yeah, but that's all of us :)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: blinkpip on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 17:55:06
Wonder what Bill Power is up to nowadays?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chunky monkey on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 18:14:09
Trouble is, Twitter offers an outlet for the social misfits and downright insane

Don't think this place is exactly free of them either


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Abrahammer on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 18:29:14
If we carry on hanging around the playoff picture I couldn't care less how much influence Power has, its worked well so far.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: manc_red on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 19:45:25
Meh, twitter trolls spouting shite, who gives a fuck?

As much as there's a lot to dislike / be wary of re. Power, I think anyone with half a brain cell can work out that we'd be in the shit were it not for his investment / contacts.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 20:26:27
Wonder what Bill Power is up to nowadays?

Watching QPR implode, probably.

I do wonder similar things myself, at times.  The club could have gone any number of different ways in recent years.  We could be playing Conference football in a near empty 20,000 Brady-dome on the Front Garden, or extinct, or showcasing Championship football in a redeveloped 22,000 capacity County Ground with Andrew Fitton as Chairman.

We are mere witnesses to events beyond our control.  Makes supporting a football team all seem a bit pointless, to be honest.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 21:45:30
Watching QPR implode, probably.

I do wonder similar things myself, at times.  The club could have gone any number of different ways in recent years.  We could be playing Conference football in a near empty 20,000 Brady-dome on the Front Garden, or extinct, or showcasing Championship football in a redeveloped 22,000 capacity County Ground with Andrew Fitton as Chairman.

We are mere witnesses to events beyond our control.  Makes supporting a football team all seem a bit pointless, to be honest.

Very good point. This is why I'm just starting to learn to go with the flow and accept whatever comes our way.

It's taken a hell of a long time to reach that conclusion mind you. I wish I'd realised it 20 years ago, it would have saved me a tonne of stress and heart ache.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Sunday, November 17, 2013, 22:39:45
We are mere witnesses to events beyond our control.
Not always. We had quite a direct impact on events a few years back


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: ron dodgers on Monday, November 18, 2013, 01:07:06
Cre8 can go fuck themselves, it's Hans of Switzerland for me every time


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, November 18, 2013, 07:34:05
Not always. We had quite a direct impact on events a few years back
What did you do Paul?

That's a genuine question as I struggle to remember what happened last week, let alone a few years ago.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 18, 2013, 08:09:02
What did you do Paul?
Not me personally but we all collectively made the Diamandis regime untenable. We didn't succeed in forcing them to sell to our preferred bidders, in the shape of the Fans Consortium, but we did create such a hostile climate that the Wills family accepted (although apparently Diamandis never did) that it was time to sell up. Without that, Diamandis would have been allowed to continue as he was and we wouldn't now have a club to be bemused by


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: derbystfc on Monday, November 18, 2013, 09:10:08
I still remember the look on Bob Holt's face when he seen that blimp, priceless :)



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 18, 2013, 09:14:36
I still remember the look on Bob Holt's face when he seen that blimp
Don't talk about Mex like that .....


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: derbystfc on Monday, November 18, 2013, 09:17:24
Don't talk about Mex like that .....

There is no Mex


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 18, 2013, 09:26:10
There is no Mex
:)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, November 18, 2013, 09:35:12
Not me personally but we all collectively made the Diamandis regime untenable. We didn't succeed in forcing them to sell to our preferred bidders, in the shape of the Fans Consortium, but we did create such a hostile climate that the Wills family accepted (although apparently Diamandis never did) that it was time to sell up. Without that, Diamandis would have been allowed to continue as he was and we wouldn't now have a club to be bemused by


and as they say the rest is history ;)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 18, 2013, 09:55:15
Cre8 can go fuck themselves, it's Hans of Switzerland for me every time

Was that the rather seedy looking "salon" on Vic Hill....I always had it down as providing the services not catered for by San Tropez.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, November 18, 2013, 10:02:26
Was that the rather seedy looking "salon" on Vic Hill....I always had it down as providing the services not catered for by San Tropez.
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: dalumpimunki on Monday, November 18, 2013, 10:52:25
I have a bit of a theory on this:

Months ago, when MacDonald walked out, an idiot of a "fan" posted a rant in a few of the comments sections after the story on the G&H and Adver sites that included a bit of hyperbole that said something like "Diamandis has returned to the club in the guise of Lee Power", I think only meaning to suggest that Power was the equivalent "shadowy power behind the throne" type.

Cue several other comments going apeshit about Power having anything to do with Diamond Mike. I thought people had worked out that it was a 2+2=5 thing and moved on, but maybe not.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, November 18, 2013, 11:02:40
I think it's more because of this.
Lee Power was involved in Dunwoody Sports Marketing, when it was actually Richard Dunwoodys set up rather than Mike Ds

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Football%3A+Power+and+the+glory+is+winner+for+Dunwoody.-a079100096

Given that Dunwoody then merged his company with Mike Ds and lived to regret it...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2902736/Dunwoody-faces-bill-over-name-calling.html

Rather than be tainted by association, I personally suspect that Lee Power, like Dunwoody, and indeed all of us, is now not Mikes Ds biggest fan.



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, November 18, 2013, 11:03:07
PS Hat tip to HexstaticSTFC for digging out those articles.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 18, 2013, 11:20:29
I think it's more because of this.
Lee Power was involved in Dunwoody Sports Marketing, when it was actually Richard Dunwoodys set up rather than Mike Ds

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Football%3A+Power+and+the+glory+is+winner+for+Dunwoody.-a079100096

Given that Dunwoody then merged his company with Mike Ds and lived to regret it...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2902736/Dunwoody-faces-bill-over-name-calling.html

Rather than be tainted by association, I personally suspect that Lee Power, like Dunwoody, and indeed all of us, is now not Mikes Ds biggest fan.



 :hmmm:  this is all getting a bit strange.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: dave_bambers_right_sock on Monday, November 18, 2013, 11:21:24
There is no Mex

Only Zuul   :D


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, November 18, 2013, 11:29:05
:hmmm:  this is all getting a bit strange.

Is it though? Power was involved in Sports publishing, as was Dunwoody (I think), not a massive surprise that they'd worked together.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: ron dodgers on Monday, November 18, 2013, 12:09:58
Not hairdressing then? Damnation where does a gent go to get his hair crimped?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 18, 2013, 12:18:03
Is it though? Power was involved in Sports publishing, as was Dunwoody (I think), not a massive surprise that they'd worked together.

There does seem to be an overlap here though....Diamandis on board with Dunwoody in Feb 2001 then Power getting involved in October 2001.  Maybe a benign coincidence....maybe not, we don't know.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 18, 2013, 12:23:10
Not hairdressing then? Damnation where does a gent go to get his hair crimped?

You could try Guys and Dolls in Calne....set up by the late Brian Hiller and his missus. Possibly the only place in the country, where such a name reeks of cutting edge up to dateness. 


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 18, 2013, 12:50:17
There does seem to be an overlap here though....Diamandis on board with Dunwoody in Feb 2001 then Power getting involved in October 2001.  Maybe a benign coincidence....maybe not, we don't know.
If you were involved in sports publishing in this area around that time, you'd have had some involvement with Diamandis, either as a colleague, a customer or an employee. I know 3 people who used to work for him, all great guys, all despise him. You can't tar everyone who was "involved" with Diamandis in some way or another with the same brush. They're not all Bob Holt or Sandy Gray.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, November 18, 2013, 17:35:42
You could try Guys and Dolls in Calne....set up by the late Brian Hiller and his missus. Possibly the only place in the country, where such a name reeks of cutting edge up to dateness. 

Haha it's still there! Brian's Sons ex wife is one of my best friends


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 18, 2013, 17:45:26
If you were involved in sports publishing in this area around that time, you'd have had some involvement with Diamandis, either as a colleague, a customer or an employee. I know 3 people who used to work for him, all great guys, all despise him. You can't tar everyone who was "involved" with Diamandis in some way or another with the same brush. They're not all Bob Holt or Sandy Gray.

Pah...according to the theory of 6 degrees of separation, we're all Mike Diamandis.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 18, 2013, 17:55:12
Pah...according to the theory of 6 degrees of separation, we're all Mike Diamandis.
I'm Mike Diamandis and so's my wife!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 18, 2013, 18:43:29
I'm Mike Diamandis and so's my wife!

On Saturday you're Holly Willoughby.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, November 18, 2013, 19:23:40
On Saturday you're Holly Willoughby.

Does that mean his wife is Phillip Schofield?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, November 18, 2013, 19:31:55
On Saturday you're Holly Willoughby.
I'm waxing as we speak ;)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 18, 2013, 19:40:29
I'm waxing as we speak ;)

Oh god, the jokes gone too far. Toooooo far.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 18, 2013, 19:42:17
Holly Willoughby is over rated anyway.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, November 18, 2013, 19:48:45
Holly Willoughby is over rated anyway.

Get out and never come back.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 18, 2013, 19:49:42
Holly Willoughby is over rated anyway.

Come out, we'll understand then.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 18, 2013, 19:51:23
She's just some fat blonde bird.

Not bad, I would, but nowt special.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, November 18, 2013, 19:56:45
First time I've heard of a size 12 referred to as fat....

She's hot though, but she's no Rachel Riley..


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Empathy Sloth on Monday, November 18, 2013, 19:57:20
Holly Willoughby is bang tidy.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Baggins on Monday, November 18, 2013, 20:55:31
She's just some fat blonde bird.

Not bad, I would, but nowt special.

Hardly fat (and I'm making the huge assumption that there's a fair few podgers on here - it is a forum for football fans after all...) and she's really rather lovely.



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Monday, November 18, 2013, 20:57:50
few podgers on here



Hey !!!!!

I resemble that remark   :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 18, 2013, 20:59:47
She is a tad porky


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, November 18, 2013, 21:03:25
She's just some fat blonde bird.

Not bad, I would, but nowt special.
Fat? I wish my misses was that 'fat'.
She's bloody lovely.

(http://i1.cdnds.net/12/09/618x843/showbiz_holly_willoughby_cosmo_1.jpg)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, November 18, 2013, 21:03:45
Hey !!!!!

I resemble that remark   :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak

 :pint: :clap:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, November 18, 2013, 21:10:48
Holly Willoughby is over rated anyway.

This. She does nothing for me. Nothing. I don't think she's pretty and I don't like her body. She just seems like a bland run-of-the-mill fake-blond with tits (that also do fuck all for me).


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bewster on Monday, November 18, 2013, 21:17:18
I like her. She has blow job lips


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, November 18, 2013, 21:20:01
I like her. She has blow job lips
So does Mick Jagger!!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bewster on Monday, November 18, 2013, 21:22:10
So does Mick Jagger!!

If you want to think about Mick Jagger blowing you then go ahead.

I'll stick to thinking about Holly thanks.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, November 18, 2013, 21:26:07
If you want to think about Mick Jagger blowing you then go ahead.

I'll stick to thinking about Holly thanks.
I'll pass on that one!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Monday, November 18, 2013, 21:51:32
I'd love to do some motorboating between those tits!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, November 18, 2013, 21:52:28
I'd love to do some motorboating between those tits!

Mick Jaggers?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, November 18, 2013, 22:11:53
She's amazing


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 18, 2013, 22:32:14
She's amazing
lezzer

:)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, November 18, 2013, 22:41:05
I'd lezz off with Holly for sure


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bewster on Monday, November 18, 2013, 22:58:41
I'd lezz off with Holly for sure

This is what we need more of  ;D


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: RobertT on Monday, November 18, 2013, 23:49:46
I'd lezz off with Holly for sure

Hmmm, as of yet nothing on Ticketmaster and no VIP packages through Keith Prowse.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: OrangeTransits on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 00:09:08
I like her. She has blow job lips

Her two front teeth will do you severe damage !


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 00:42:08
I'd lezz off with Holly for sure

:o gulp


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 01:41:23
This. She does nothing for me. Nothing. I don't think she's pretty and I don't like her body. She just seems like a bland run-of-the-mill fake-blond with tits (that also do fuck all for me).

THIS  :nod:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 01:58:19
I've only skim-read this topic but somehow it went from talking about Lee Power and social media to JFW wanting to les off with Paul D, who does nothing for Barry Scott.




Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Hammer on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 02:38:08
I'd lezz off with Holly for sure

Fuck that. I still want me refund from Macclesfield. Oh..wait...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 04:32:12
(http://i1.cdnds.net/12/09/618x843/showbiz_holly_willoughby_cosmo_1.jpg)

In a heartbeat.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 06:53:32
Probably be your last one, too!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 07:32:14
I'd lezz off with Holly for sure

So many thoughts...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fuzzy on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 09:28:36
Holly Willoughby fat? Fuck me Gents :doh:

Holly, though not my celeb of choice, has got a proper bod. None of this snap if you breath on them too hard shit, she has proper curves and numbers.

It is because of shit like this that 'heroin chic' and anorexic birds are apparently all the rage.

More birds built like Holly please :clap:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 09:31:33
I've only skim-read this topic but somehow it went from talking about Lee Power and social media to JFW wanting to les off with Paul D
It's a sacrifice I'd be prepared to make ....


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 09:35:17
Holly Willoughby fat? Fuck me Gents :doh:

Holly, though not my celeb of choice, has got a proper bod. None of this snap if you breath on them too hard shit, she has proper curves and numbers.

It is because of shit like this that 'heroin chic' and anorexic birds are apparently all the rage.

More birds built like Holly please :clap:

Amen to that.  I've never understood why any woman who doesn't have the physique of a 14 year old boy has to classified by some as 'fat'.  Completely bizarre.  Curves, not corners.  For me, anyway.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 09:35:49
Lee Power must be reading this thread and wondering what the hell is going on.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 11:10:48
He isn't the only one Ardiles, he isn't the only one..


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 11:39:26
It's all Pauld's fault. If that is his real name, eh Mr w-d..


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 11:57:00
Lee Power must be reading this thread and wondering what the hell is going on.
I'd really rather hope he has better things to be doing.

It's all Pauld's fault. If that is his real name, eh Mr w-d..
Bah, you started it. I've got a waxing rash thanks to you ...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 11:58:58
Yeah Batch, I blame you.

Least we're filling the bollocks quotient up nicely.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 12:06:26
I'm in the yes camp for Ms Willoughby.

Can't believe she is referred to as fat! Ludicrous! I'm with Ardiles as well, skinny women look odd to me.


Title: Re:
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 12:13:03
It's all Pauld's fault. If that is his real name, eh Mr w-d..

W-D (dubdee) War Department loco...sexy austerity engine of my 50's childhood. Knackered old beasts, which had been churned out for the war....so basic 2-8-0 design (something Cooper might consider)  By the late 50's only a handful left in operation, so spotting a WD was well exciting.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/90323_fresh_from_the_works.jpg)

90323 just out from The Works after a makeover.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Gnasher on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 12:15:38
I'm in the yes camp for Ms Willoughby.

Can't believe she is referred to as fat! Ludicrous! I'm with Ardiles as well, skinny women look odd to me.

I keep confusing her with Tess Daly, even though they're nothing alike. I have em both though  ;)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 12:16:43
I keep confusing her with Tess Daly, even though they're nothing alike. I have em both though  ;)

Tess is stunning until she opens her mouth (and starts talking)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 12:22:05
I'd do Fearn Cotton as well as Holly (just putting it out there) as she is Holly's best bud


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 12:23:09
I'd do Fearn Cotton as well as Holly (just putting it out there) as she is Holly's best bud

What about Fern Britton?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 12:25:06
What about Fern Britton?

A few years ago she was prime candidate for the "Would but shouldnt" thread IMO.

I suspect she hasnt aged well recently


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 12:26:56
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/nov/18/bbc-great-british-bake-off-allotment-challenge

Here she is.



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 12:27:59
A few years ago she was prime candidate for the "Would but shouldnt" thread IMO.

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/Zafyr_photo/gifs/smiley/wuerg.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Zafyr_photo/media/gifs/smiley/wuerg.gif.html)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 12:28:30
Yikes, i was right


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 14:16:50
Amen to that.  I've never understood why any woman who doesn't have the physique of a 14 year old boy has to classified by some as 'fat'.  Completely bizarre.  Curves, not corners.  For me, anyway.

This  :clap:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Notts red on Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 22:42:56
Holly Willoughby fat? Fuck me Gents :doh:

Holly, though not my celeb of choice, has got a proper bod. None of this snap if you breath on them too hard shit, she has proper curves and numbers.

It is because of shit like this that 'heroin chic' and anorexic birds are apparently all the rage.

More birds built like Holly please :clap:
This, Holly is a proper women with curves in the right places. Fat? I don't think so.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:09:24
Football league agree transfer of ownership of stfc to lee power's company



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:11:24
Thats that then ;)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:14:35
BBC Wilts (twitter):

Quote
@football_league formally sanction of ownership of @Official_STFC to Swinton Reds owned by Lee Power #stfc

Lee Power has told BBC Wiltshire the make up of the board remains the same #stfc #swindon


Sam Morshead (twitter):

Quote
I am told there is an option agreement in place to transfer ownership of club to Lee Power but it has not yet gone through #stfc

BBC Wiltshire reporting that Football League has sanctioned transfer of #stfc to Power. I'm being told no handover has been made.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:16:59
What is going on, has power not got a bit of baggage that would have fell fowl of the FPPT


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:18:46
fell fowl of the FPPT

That's quackers.

Has anyone ever failed the FPPT?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:21:03
Who are the Swinton Reds?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:21:27
What is going on, has power not got a bit of baggage that would have fell fowl of the FPPT

Power has been playing a game of chicken with McCrory...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:22:14
Who are the Swinton Reds?

A rugby league side?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:23:01
Morshead:
Bit of a mess, this. Statement from club to say handover has been made. Power states this is the case. Agreement has been there since April

BBC:
SPORT:sources at the club say that ownership of #stfc remains with Seebeck 87 Ltd with option of ownership being transferred to Swinton Reds


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:23:16
That's quackers.

Has anyone ever failed the FPPT?

I'm not sure, but its hardly a stringent test. Almost like the FL couldn't give a duck.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:24:52
Jed hasn't tweeted in 4 days which is unlike him.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:25:44
Swinton Reds.....remember

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=51580.0


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:26:44
That's quackers.

Has anyone ever failed the FPPT?

Good point probably a bit of chicken and egg situation


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:39:33
At least the purpose of the audit is now clear.

Also, does this half make Fredi right?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:46:32
Classic Swindon Town F.C


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:50:16
So you'd assume it is power releasing the statement saying he's in control  - where is Jed I thought he run the club on a day to day basis but I suppose if power has access to club email account he can release the statement under the banner of stfc

Maybe we should play a game of where's Jed & Lee :>)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:53:57

Maybe we should play a game of where's Jed & Lee :>)

Or 'Where's which Wally?'


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 11:57:16
The other director of Swinton Reds 20 Ltd is Stephen Crouch who seemed to hold some credibility and reassure people.

Until we have details not really sure what issue is, everyone claimed that Power ran the club anyway, so now he does officially.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:01:16
The other director of Swinton Reds 20 Ltd is Stephen Crouch who seemed to hold some credibility and reassure people.

Until we have details not really sure what issue is, everyone claimed that Power ran the club anyway, so now he does officially.
Yup. Although it does seem that Jed's lost the power struggle. If there was one.

EDIT: so after reading the story properly, it seems that Power thinks he has an option to take control via "Swinton Reds 20" which he has now exercised. Whereas Jed (presumably) thinks no such option exists or, if it does, that whatever pre-conditions need to be met in order for Power to trigger it have not been met. Seems pretty clear there's a disagreement going very public though.

"There is no boardroom split"


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:03:44
I think the issue is that Power is saying he owns the club, 'club insiders' saying he doesn't - i.e. some internal conflict. Its not 100% cast iron this is happening, but its what trusted posters have said recently and being (guardedly) repeated by Sam M .

Should this prove to be true them yeah we don't know what the issues are. But its never normally great to have conflict within.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:10:29
The question still remains though:

Is Holly Willoughy fat?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: A Gent Orange on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:11:16
The other director of Swinton Reds 20 Ltd is Stephen Crouch who seemed to hold some credibility and reassure people.

Until we have details not really sure what issue is, everyone claimed that Power ran the club anyway, so now he does officially.

Isn't Crouch the other director of Swinton Reds? (From memory)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: corner on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:12:48
Isn't Crouch the other director of Swinton Reds? (From memory)

Yes, the cash man!!!!!!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:15:11
I suppose it may depends if this was a getlemen's agreement or if there is anything legally binding


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:16:18
I have a feeling that this spells the end of Jed's involvement at the club as it is well known there is no love lost between Jed and Power which has been brought to a head in recent weeks with the conflict concerning Nile Ranger (allegedly).

I fear that with Power as owner (if he indeed actually is) we will see much less communication between club and fans as well from here on as Power doesn't seem to bother letting the fans know anything.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:17:41
I wonder if Cooper is worrying about his job this morning?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:17:56
I suppose it may depends if this was a getlemen's agreement or if there is anything legally binding
If there's nothing legally binding, there's nothing to discuss, no change


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:19:37
I have a feeling that this spells the end of Jed's involvement at the club as it is well known there is no love lost between Jed and Power which has been brought to a head in recent weeks with the conflict concerning Nile Ranger (allegedly).

I fear that with Power as owner (if he indeed actually is) we will see much less communication between club and fans as well from here on as Power doesn't seem to bother letting the fans know anything.

He'll probably just employ another frontman. Jed wasn't that keen on actual communication about what was actually going on- chatting people up on twitter does not constitute genuine communication. Plus ca change, seems to me


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:20:48
If, as has been suggested, Power's been pulling the strings all along what real difference is it going to make?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:22:14
So the much maligned Fredi may have been right


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:23:05
If, as has been suggested, Power's been pulling the strings all along what real difference is it going to make?

If power is majority shareholder then he can d owhat he likes without anyone being able to veto what he does surely


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:24:10
If, as has been suggested, Power's been pulling the strings all along what real difference is it going to make?
Quite. Very little probably. Unless Jed's been acting as a restraint to hold him back from his more extreme white-cat-stroking moments and now he'll be free to unleash his maniacal plans on SN1 unhindered. We'll find out soon enough I guess. And probably too late by then


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:34:03
Quite. Very little probably. Unless Jed's been acting as a restraint to hold him back from his more extreme white-cat-stroking moments and now he'll be free to unleash his maniacal plans on SN1 unhindered. We'll find out soon enough I guess. And probably too late by then

Surely no coincidence that Blofeld is back, after a dispute was settled between the estate of creator McClory...and the current prob Swiss based owners of the Bond franchise....given DRS thinks we'll be rebranded, and Ian Fleming is buried within the Borough of Swindon....Moonraker could take on a whole new meaning.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/18/blofled-spectre-james-bond-kevin-mcclory


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Arriba on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:36:53
The question still remains though:

Is Holly Willoughy fat?

Lovely figure. Love that shapely hourglass body on a woman.
In other news Rachel Riley has left her husband.... :beers:  :iloveyou:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:38:08
He'll probably just employ another frontman. Jed wasn't that keen on actual communication about what was actually going on- chatting people up on twitter does not constitute genuine communication. Plus ca change, seems to me

#RoarNoMore


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:38:57
Lovely figure. Love that shapely hourglass body on a woman.
In other news Rachel Riley has left her husband.... :beers:  :iloveyou:
Can I second this


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: WR5 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 12:40:11
One of the investors in Crunch, Crouches Online Accountancy business, is Paul Birch who founded Bebo and flogged it for about 800 million.  


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:11:14
Surely no coincidence that Blofeld is back, after a dispute was settled between the estate of creator McClory...
McClory/McCrory... hmmm. Coincidence or something more sinister? ;)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:37:13
Whilst I understand Jeds beery man of the people stich is much more conducive to popular poll ratings than Lee Power operating in the shadows, it's probably worth noting this.

Powers 'contacts' have got us. Luongo, Byrne, Mason, Pritchard, Kasim etc etc.

Jeds 'contacts' got us Harry Agombar.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:37:34
Really Adver, really.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/10844917.POLL__Who_do_you_back_in_the_battle_for_ownership_at_Swindon_Town_/?ref=var_0

I voted.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:39:08
Powers 'contacts' have got us. Luongo, Byrne, Mason, Pritchard, Kasim etc etc.

Jeds 'contacts' got us Harry Agombar.
And almost three from Banbury Town!!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:42:57
Doesn't a lot depend on who Sam Mooseheads 'sources' at the club are - if its just the tea lady being a little peeved that she hasn't been told then no worries?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:43:45
I voted Power. I like an underdog.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: otanswell on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:44:56
I wonder if Cooper is worrying about his job this morning?

Doubt it, he's his mate


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: london_red on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:45:58
Statement on the club website no longer there? The plot thickens


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:46:23
Really Adver, really.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/10844917.POLL__Who_do_you_back_in_the_battle_for_ownership_at_Swindon_Town_/?ref=var_0

I voted.
Wow. What a spectacularly unhelpful bit of shit-stirring. What we could do with is some elucidation of what the f**k is going on, not a popularity contest based on little to bugger all actual information. Thought the Adver were better than that these days.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:47:47
I voted Power. I like an underdog.

I'm with you! Let's set up a support group, we could call it 'Powerade'.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: derbystfc on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:54:41
Wow. What a spectacularly unhelpful bit of shit-stirring. What we could do with is some elucidation of what the f**k is going on, not a popularity contest based on little to bugger all actual information. Thought the Adver were better than that these days.

Agreed, this isnt fucking X Factor, but a club with a fan base that hasnt got a clue whats going on, well unhelpful. Thought better of the adver this pile of shit


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Friday, November 29, 2013, 13:58:55
Agreed, this isnt fucking X Factor, but a club with a fan base that hasnt got a clue whats going on, well unhelpful. Thought better of the adver this pile of shit
Quite. Although the one that has the best sob story definitely gets my vote.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: derbystfc on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:01:51
Quite. Although the one that has the best sob story definitely gets my vote.

Thats STFC through and through!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:10:07
I fucking love my club.....excellent


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:20:57
 :rain:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:21:51
Jeds just doing it for his poor auld granny who never thought shed see the day.  The roars turn to tears as we all get behind him.  Meanwhile Nicole Shitsinger wipes a tear from her eye and from the core of his being containing his last atom of his humanity, Simon cunting Cowell feels touched in a way that hasn't happened since he met saville in the 70's.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:24:25
Jed v Power. Only was to solve it is Rock, paper, scissors best of 5 or if you're a BBT fan then Rock, paper, scissors, lizard, spock.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:26:26
Wow. What a spectacularly unhelpful bit of shit-stirring. What we could do with is some elucidation of what the f**k is going on, not a popularity contest based on little to bugger all actual information. Thought the Adver were better than that these days.

Encouraged by the fact the 'neither' option is currently in the lead.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:29:53
One of the investors in Crunch, Crouches Online Accountancy business, is Paul Birch who founded Bebo and flogged it for about 800 million. 

Not Michael Birch? Which of course leads me onto this cool video he made. Not anywhere near as good as McAfee's, but still cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm9J8Glk0bE


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:31:13
Jed v Power. Only was to solve it is Rock, paper, scissors best of 5 or if you're a BBT fan then Rock, paper, scissors, lizard, spock.

Nah surely a boxing ring in the middle of the pitch at half time on Sat Mike the Greek as ref


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:37:44
Quite like the illustration for the Washbag post:
http://thewashbag.com/2013/11/29/to-me-to-you-a-change-of-ownership-at-swindon-town/

Less enthralled that they seem to have taken Power's claims of cash injections at face value. Have we seen any evidence that either has invested anything? (Other than their own claims that they have done so)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:41:40
They certainly "stockpiled" cash early on. ST sales, fees for players and selling off future commercial revenues eg catering. But then again paid fees of £100k for Byrne and £400k for Luongo. If they havent put a penny in then the well must be pretty dry.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:42:10
Quite like the illustration for the Washbag post:
http://thewashbag.com/2013/11/29/to-me-to-you-a-change-of-ownership-at-swindon-town/

Less enthralled that they seem to have taken Power's claims of cash injections at face value. Have we seen any evidence that either has invested anything? (Other than their own claims that they have done so)

I did notice that, find it strange that Washbag has accepted this as usually Ron & co stick to the facts


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:43:09
But then again paid fees of £100k for Byrne and £400k for Luongo. If they havent put a penny in then the well must be pretty dry.
Although (and I know I've said this before) you're assuming cash actually left the building in those deals? They could both be "deals worth up to £x" which sees minimal/no outlay up-front.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:44:31
They certainly "stockpiled" cash early on. ST sales, fees for players and selling off future commercial revenues eg catering. But then again paid fees of £100k for Byrne and £400k for Luongo. If they havent put a penny in then the well must be pretty dry.


We dont know the makeup of those fee's though it has never been disclosed so we dont know if there was anything paid upfront or it could have been minimal fee up front with the rest in clauses


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:53:12
We dont know the makeup of those fee's though it has never been disclosed so we dont know if there was anything paid upfront or it could have been minimal fee up front with the rest in clauses
F**k me, I've got an echo :)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Friday, November 29, 2013, 14:57:23
We dont know the makeup of those fee's though it has never been disclosed so we dont know if there was anything paid upfront or it could have been minimal fee up front with the rest in clauses

It does seem highly implausible that we have handed over £500,000 up front to Tottenham, doesn't it? Sounds good if you get the press to spin it like that though.

Likewise "investing" £1.2m to lift the embargo. As well as I remember it, all that was needed was for the £1.2m to be deposited somewhere as proof of its existence - and that took long enough. I could be wrong about that, though, no time to check the archives…


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 15:01:23
Likewise "investing" £1.2m to lift the embargo. As well as I remember it, all that was needed was for the £1.2m to be deposited somewhere as proof of its existence - and that took long enough. I could be wrong about that, though, no time to check the archives…
I believe you're correct. It was an escrow requirement to demonstrate proof of funds IIRC


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 29, 2013, 15:07:40
McClory/McCrory... hmmm. Coincidence or something more sinister? ;)

We know our chairman has a variety of ways of spelling his name bit like Sir Walter Raleigh (pronounced Raw-ley)

I quote

Quote
In Drummond’s Conversations with Ben Jonson he is Raughlie. References occur to him in Mr. Andrew Clark’s Oxford Register, as Rallegh, Rawlei, Rauly, Raughley, Raughly, Raughleigh, Raylye, and Rolye. Foreigners referred to him as Ralle, Rallé, Raleghus, Raleich, Raleik, Raulaeus, Rale, Real, Reali, Ralego, and Rhalegh. In addition, I have found in lists compiled by Dr. Brushfield the name spelt Raley, Raleye, Raleagh, Raleygh, Raleyghe, Ralli, Raughleye, Rauleghe, Raulghe, Raweleigh, Raylygh, Reigley, Rhaleigh, Rhaley, Rhaly, and Wrawley

So near to a Statement Friday on the OS, but not quite  :(


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 15:26:10
Didnt Jed tell the trust he paid the 1.2m to get us out embargo in the form of an interest free loan? Now Power is saying he paid it? Someones telling porkies


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, November 29, 2013, 15:35:22
Didnt Jed tell the trust he paid the 1.2m to get us out embargo in the form of an interest free loan? Now Power is saying he paid it? Someones telling porkies

Depends how they worded it. If Jed got Power on board and Power put the 1.2 in (or at least showed the FL it) Jed could rightly say he 'secured' the 1.2 as he bought Power in.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 29, 2013, 16:02:10
What the fook.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 16:03:26
Board meeting tomorrow apparently
12 oclock
Just whats needed before a home game


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: DMR on Friday, November 29, 2013, 16:07:14
Good point the players won't have time to warm up


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 16:09:25
Board meeting tomorrow apparently
12 oclock
Just whats needed before a home game

Its in the legends lounge aswell


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 29, 2013, 16:10:23
Its in the legends lounge aswell


Will Jed buy the beers


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: yeo on Friday, November 29, 2013, 16:12:30
Pre match entertainment

fight! fight! fight!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 16:14:51
Will Jed buy the beers

On credit


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 16:21:28
Will Jed buy the beers
Or will he "secure" the beers and Power will actually pay for them but Jed asked him to so he's claiming the credit. And then it will turn out Power's not actually paid for the beers up front, just shown the bar staff a handful of fivers as "proof of funds" to demonstrate he could pay for the beers should it become necessary.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 16:22:16
Or will he "secure" the beers and Power will actually pay for them but Jed asked him to so he's claiming the credit. And then it will turn out Power's not actually paid for the beers up front, just shown the bar staff a handful of fivers as "proof of funds" to demonstrate he could pay for the beers should it become necessary.
I see what you did there ;) :D


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 16:36:13
I see what you did there ;) :D
To be fair, I wasn't being subtle :)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 16:53:11
Or will he "secure" the beers and Power will actually pay for them but Jed asked him to so he's claiming the credit. And then it will turn out Power's not actually paid for the beers up front, just shown the bar staff a handful of fivers as "proof of funds" to demonstrate he could pay for the beers should it become necessary.

I'm going to claim I own the beers, drink them, then scarper. Now that's how you asset strip .


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Only Me on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:03:41
F**k me, I've got an echo :)
Echo echo echo


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:04:23
Or will he "secure" the beers and Power will actually pay for them but Jed asked him to so he's claiming the credit. And then it will turn out Power's not actually paid for the beers up front, just shown the bar staff a handful of fivers as "proof of funds" to demonstrate he could pay for the beers should it become necessary.
You'll never know as there will be a non disclosure agreement


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:04:50
There are no beers.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: OrangeTransits on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:08:15
Bring backpaolo and some snow. Fuck the beer. I want Pizza  :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: OrangeTransits on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:13:15
Umm,On second thoughts .... Be careful what you wish for .......... It could just happen ............


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:16:16
Well this was unexpected after being in meetings all day.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: corner on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:26:55
Sam, as your online can you shed any light as to what is going on?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: joteddyred on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:42:11
Its in the legends lounge aswell


Can we all go along?

Another funfilled day in the life of Swindon Town FC.  Will the excitement and controversy never end?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:45:06
I don't get the big furore. Everyone was adamant that Power was pulling the strings in the shadows and now he's pulling the strings in public... yet this is still an issue?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:47:16
Puppetery is shit when you can see the person pulling the strings.  It doesnt matter if you know there's strings, just as long as you cant see the puppet master.

I dont know what this means.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: joteddyred on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:47:59
I don't get the big furore. Everyone was adamant that Power was pulling the strings in the shadows and now he's pulling the strings in public... yet this is still an issue?

Is it perhaps because Jed seemed quite happy with that arrangement and now he clearly isn't that's got people's knickers in a twist.  On top of his dodgy history of course.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:50:57
Doesnt help that club put up a statement re Power then remove it
Backtrack slightly



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:52:30
Can we all go along?

Another funfilled day in the life of Swindon Town FC.  Will the excitement and controversy never end?

Haha no its not in there really. Its probably in burger king or something


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:54:38
I don't get the big furore. Everyone was adamant that Power was pulling the strings in the shadows and now he's pulling the strings in public... yet this is still an issue?
An absolute non-story, Sonic.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: joteddyred on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:55:16
Haha no its not in there really. Its probably in burger king or something

I fell for that one didn't I?  It was quite believable  :)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 17:58:43
Trust statement ( thru twitter )

Quote
Like all fans, we are following developments with interest and it appears we will have to wait for the outcome of the board meeting tomorrow. It is important that this is resolved quickly and transparently. Uncertainty over ownership is always concerning.Which is why our long term objective is for proper fan representation in the running of the club we love.
.We met with Jed last week and asked a number of questions, including around ownership of the club and Lee Power's role ,we had been waiting for clarification from Jed on some points before publishing notes of the meeting.  It may be that tomorrow's meeting will provide that clarification.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:01:26
Trust statement in response to request from the Adver. I've cribbed from their twitter

Like all fans, we are following developments with interest and it appears we will have to wait for the outcome of the board meeting tomorrow. It is important that this is resolved quickly and transparently.

Uncertainty over ownership is always concerning, which is why our long term objective is for proper fan representation in the running of the club we love.

We met with Jed last week and asked a number of questions, including around ownership of the club and Lee Power's role. We had been waiting for clarification from Jed on some points before publishing notes of the meeting. It may be that tomorrow's meeting will provide that clarification.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Sam Morshead on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:03:31
Sam, as your online can you shed any light as to what is going on?
Reason it's a story is because there are two sides both claiming to be owners of a club. I'm very much confused, like you lot are, but there is reason for it to be properly highlighted - unlike what some others are suggesting. And I was just starting to like Chang as well.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:04:51
I don't get the big furore. Everyone was adamant that Power was pulling the strings in the shadows and now he's pulling the strings in public... yet this is still an issue?
Really? You don't see why a lack of clarity over who owns the club, the chairman apparently at odds with the owner (if he is) and divisions at board level might cause some concern? Surely you remember what happened in previous boardroom splits? They've rarely resulted in periods of peaceful success for the club.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:08:10
Really? You don't see why a lack of clarity over who owns the club, the chairman apparently at odds with the owner (if he is) and divisions at board level might cause some concern? Surely you remember what happened in previous boardroom splits? They've rarely resulted in periods of peaceful success for the club.
Periods of peaceful success? Fuck that. We want uncertainty,  in fighting, the works.  Take your peaceful success and shove it!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:10:19
Really? You don't see why a lack of clarity over who owns the club, the chairman apparently at odds with the owner (if he is) and divisions at board level might cause some concern? Surely you remember what happened in previous boardroom splits? They've rarely resulted in periods of peaceful success for the club.
Sorry, I was being a bit facetious regarding those who have been claiming for months that Power had the power all along.

Obviously didn't come across very well in my post.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:10:59
Periods of peaceful success? Fuck that. We want uncertainty,  in fighting, the works.  Take your peaceful success and shove it!
Ah well, you're in for a bonanza then :)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:11:44
Sorry, I was being a bit facetious regarding those who have been claiming for months that Power had the power all along.

Obviously didn't come across very well in my post.
Fair enough. It did seem a little odd, coming from you.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:16:02
Puppetery is shit when you can see the person pulling the strings.  It doesnt matter if you know there's strings, just as long as you cant see the puppet master.

I dont know what this means.
Puppetry of the penis


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:17:32
Pulling the strings of a bunch of cocks.  Very apt. 


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:20:49
Lets have some quotes then Sam. The Thisis homepage mentions 'counter claims from chairman Jed McCrory that no handover had taken place'.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I am yet to see any quotes from McCrory?



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:35:56
You know sometimes people will talk to a journalist and give them permission to say that they've asserted X, Y or Z but not be prepared to give an on the record statement. Especially where there may be sensitive legal/commercial disputes around the topic that an ill-thought word now may scupper a legal case in months to come.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Only Me on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:45:31
And I was just starting to like Chang as well.
What, the Thai beer?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Empathy Sloth on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:58:48
He means cocaine.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Sam Morshead on Friday, November 29, 2013, 18:59:13
Lets have some quotes then Sam. The Thisis homepage mentions 'counter claims from chairman Jed McCrory that no handover had taken place'.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I am yet to see any quotes from McCrory?


I'm sure you understand that I have tried to get just that today without success. I'm relaying what I am told, you can believe me/my sources or not. I'm not swaying either way as I, like most, am fed up with opaqueness. I'm just reporting both sides of this - you can make your own minds up.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:02:36
you can make your own minds up.

By that you mean come up with wild improbable scenarios/ideas ?
I like your way of thing


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:05:17
So Power who many stated all along was in charge may actually be in charge - its hardly earth shattering is it, better the devil and all that if - it would have been a masterstroke if Jed had put this out he seems to have gone from an asset stripping devil to the clubs saviour in many eyes today!

Equally if Power et al have managed to run the club for 12 months without any investment good luck to them to do that they would be the sort of economic masterminds we want running our club.


Title: Re:
Post by: herthab on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:05:50
I think it's a love triangle between Jed, Power and the object of boths desire, Nile Ranger. This theory explains everything.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:05:51
I'm sure you understand that I have tried to get just that today without success. I'm relaying what I am told, you can believe me/my sources or not. I'm not swaying either way as I, like most, am fed up with opaqueness. I'm just reporting both sides of this - you can make your own minds up.

If you can get a Mike Diamandis style "Basically, I bought 50,000 shares for a laugh" style interview with Power or Jed, I'd love you forever.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:09:04
I'm sure you understand that I have tried to get just that today without success. I'm relaying what I am told, you can believe me/my sources or not. I'm not swaying either way as I, like most, am fed up with opaqueness. I'm just reporting both sides of this - you can make your own minds up.

Don't have any problem with that but don't you think the poll is a little poorly judged and  inflammatory?


Title: Re:
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:09:24
It can be as simple as Power's initial investment having conditions, one of which may have been an option to buy McCrory out on the fulfillment of certain conditions. Perhaps, just perhaps, there is a dispute as to whether those conditions have actually been fulfilled. Perhaps the dispute is over the price for the shares, the structure of the payments.... it could be anything. The timing of Shah's appointment is also interesting. If she is linked to this, or rather, to either Power or McCrory, she could be a dummy voter on behalf of one or the other to ensure that certain board resolutions are passed. Pure speculation, but perhaps her first key involvement will be voting the right way before tomorrow's game.

Fact is, nobody knows. There will be an agreement knocking about and we could rack up 100 pages of assumptions, but even 'sources' at the club are speculating until they read the contract, and even then it may be open to interpretation.

If Power takes over, fine. So long as it stays as Swindon Town, in Swindon, in red and with a forward thinking attitude, I'm happy.

I softened my initial views on McCrory, mainly because he started to get things in track, but it transpires this may... may, have been down to Power's contacts anyway. Neither are gifted on the PR front clearly. Whoever ends up in control could do with a new front man.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:14:13
Whoever put the money in was always pulling the strings. It was never Jed McCrory.

I was going to put a theory out there today that whoever invested had a convertible debenture. I guess it's been converted if that theory is correct.

My hypothesis is that the backer is Colin Hill.

Disclaimer: None of this is certain, factual and is merely a fictional work of my imagination and to be taken as such


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:16:27
Oh and Keith Cousins probably

Disclaimer: None of this is certain, factual and is merely a fictional work of my imagination and to be taken as such


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:17:30
Who is this Colin Hill geezer?


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:18:16
From my experience of small companies it could even be the case that someone released a pre-written press release a few days early.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:20:45
SiPie....who are these no doubt fine and upstanding gentlemen of whom you speak?



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:26:06
Property mogul. Associates with Lee Power. Bought and sold Peterborough's ground for a tidy profit.   Everything on record goes through Switzerland i.e. can't find anything about other links.

http://soccerlens.com/weymouth-look-to-end-the-months-of-terra/22911/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1330673/Sheffield-Wednesday-hope-property-tycoon-Colin-Hill-save-administration.html

The Great Northern Hotel/Cre8 link with Power and guess who was/is owner? Colin Hill

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/local/great-northern-hotel-staff-lose-jobs-as-company-goes-under-1-134866

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/business/business-news/200m-fortune-keeps-hill-on-uk-s-rich-list-1-2664348


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:28:03
Who is this Colin Hill geezer?

Was involved at Rushden and/or Kettering.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:31:27
Property mogul. Associates with Lee Power. Bought and sold Peterborough's ground for a tidy profit.   Everything on record goes through Switzerland i.e. can't find anything about other links.

http://soccerlens.com/weymouth-look-to-end-the-months-of-terra/22911/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1330673/Sheffield-Wednesday-hope-property-tycoon-Colin-Hill-save-administration.html

The Great Northern Hotel/Cre8 link with Power and guess who was/is owner? Colin Hill

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/local/great-northern-hotel-staff-lose-jobs-as-company-goes-under-1-134866

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/business/business-news/200m-fortune-keeps-hill-on-uk-s-rich-list-1-2664348

Cheers....this Hill fella does appear to be minted, so who knows.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:31:33
Hill and Cousins heavily featured in Leon Knight's famous sacking/Twitter outburst


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: the washbag on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:32:51
I did notice that, find it strange that Washbag has accepted this as usually Ron & co stick to the facts

The 'facts' were reported by the club statement; albeit I accept that this later retracted.

The club statement actually confirmed what I had been previously told on numerous occasions about Power's increasing financial stake in the club and what he was eventually going to do to provide security on that investment - i.e. calling in the agreement the two made and boot out Jed when the time elapsed on him finally bringing some money to the table, which it doesn't seem he did.

Perhaps Power's move in making the club release this statement will make Jed wake up and stump up some cash...perhaps not...

Never a dull day at STFC


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:32:54
I dont like the fact he has bought and sold grounds in the past.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:33:45
If he is involved, The County Ground could be under threat.

Disclaimer: None of this is certain, factual and is merely a fictional work of my imagination and to be taken as such


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:35:28
I dont like the fact he has bought and sold grounds in the past.

All the more reason for the Trust to get on with the Community Asset thing.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:35:48
This is not making me happy. Alcohol is the answer.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:36:11
This is not making me happy. Alcohol is the answer.

With you on that one


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: the washbag on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:36:23
If he is involved, The County Ground could be under threat.

Disclaimer: None of this is certain, factual and is merely a fictional work of my imagination and to be taken as such

In that case a well done to TrustSTFC for making the Asset of Community Value application then which ensures (if it is approved) that supporters would know about any freehold or leasehold sale in the first instance and have the opportunity to buy the ground...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: the washbag on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:37:05
All the more reason for the Trust to get on with the Community Asset thing.

We've already done it. Decision due from Borough Council in early January


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:37:17
All the more reason for the Trust to get on with the Community Asset thing.

Deffo Reg.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:38:12
If he is involved, The County Ground could be under threat.

Disclaimer: None of this is certain, factual and is merely a fictional work of my imagination and to be taken as such

Right, so you know, which will do for me...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:39:19
If he is involved, The County Ground could be under threat.

Disclaimer: None of this is certain, factual and is merely a fictional work of my imagination and to be taken as such

This being the County Ground that we don't own and at this stage don't even have a long lease on and that is subject to a covenant that whilst can be lost will cost cash and time to do so....

I would share your concern but when it comes to clubs and real estate we are not an attractive proposition.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:40:11
All the more reason for the Trust to get on with the Community Asset thing.

One could suggest that an individual outside of the Club and Trust was concerned at particular people's involvement and suggested this publicly.

Of course that's only a suggestion, just joining dots logically.

Disclaimer: None of this is certain, factual and is merely a fictional work of my imagination and to be taken as such


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:42:44
But dont SBC own the ground?  So he couldnt sell it could he.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:42:57
This being the County Ground that we don't own and at this stage don't even have a long lease on and that is subject to a covenant that whilst can be lost will cost cash and time to do so....

I would share your concern but when it comes to clubs and real estate we are not an attractive proposition.

Did we ever renew the lease on a long term basis?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:44:49
Right, so you know, which will do for me...

I have no idea about anything Reg and I mean that. I simply like to create an entertaining story based on possibilities.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: the washbag on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:45:30
Did we ever renew the lease on a long term basis?

No it expired in March 2013. Jed wanted to secure a longer lease but hasn't been able to do that.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:48:57
I have no idea about anything Reg and I mean that. I simply like to create an entertaining story based on possibilities.

Good work...judging by the responses, the profits of various hostelries will benefit tonight  :pint:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:49:10
So on what basis was it renewed?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:49:30
No it expired in March 2013. Jed wanted to secure a longer lease but hasn't been able to do that.

That was my understanding, so as it stands we are very dependent upon the Council. Not remotely saying that we should drop our guard, but it would be a strange one if someone saw the CG as an opportunity.

And that's before looking at whatever it is allocated/shown as in the Local Plan - and after a week of Local Plans at work I am not bloody looking this evening but I would suggest it is going to be leisure or something like that so again not easy to make cash on short term.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:49:45
But dont SBC own the ground?  So he couldnt sell it could he.

Could a deal be negotiate with the council? Is it a coincidence that the Shaw Tip story was brought up again recently?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:50:49
So on what basis was it renewed?

I imagine there will have been a clause that it continues for a period at expiry subject to the agreement of all parties on the same terms, but with a termination clause that either can exercise within a certain period.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:51:20
So on what basis was it renewed?

I can't recall but some sort of rolling basis according to Murrall at the business plan presentation.

That could be wide of the mark.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: the washbag on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:52:21
That was my understanding, so as it stands we are very dependent upon the Council. Not remotely saying that we should drop our guard, but it would be a strange one if someone saw the CG as an opportunity.

And that's before looking at whatever it is allocated/shown as in the Local Plan - and after a week of Local Plans at work I am not bloody looking this evening but I would suggest it is going to be leisure or something like that so again not easy to make cash on short term.

There are multiple legal and planning reasons why the County Ground complex is not a realistic proposition for development, therefore it is highly unlikely that income stream would generate funds for a redevelopment of the ground itself.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: the washbag on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:54:09
I can't recall but some sort of rolling basis according to Murrall at the business plan presentation.

That could be wide of the mark.

I've a copy of the lease and title documents (dated 30.10.2013) and I can confirm that no new lease was granted, so it is rolling.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:55:19
I've a copy of the lease and title documents (dated 30.10.2013) and I can confirm that no new lease was granted, so it is rolling.

That's a very recent date for the documents if you don't mind me asking why?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:56:29
I can't recall but some sort of rolling basis according to Murrall at the business plan presentation.

That could be wide of the mark.

Not wide of the mark, it was agreed with the council that the lease would roll until such a time a development plan was agreed by all parties..


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: the washbag on Friday, November 29, 2013, 19:57:44
That's a very recent date for the documents if you don't mind me asking why?


I prepared and submitted the ACV application for the Trust (I'm on their Board by the way) and obtaining up-to-date title documents from the Land Registry was part of the research.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:19:50
Not wide of the mark, it was agreed with the council that the lease would roll until such a time a development plan was agreed by all parties..
So Steve without giving much away how much should I drink tonight and should I be drinking more to ease my worries.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:21:49
So Steve without giving much away how much should I drink tonight and should I be drinking more to ease my worries.

I think whatever happens STFC will still be here, I know my preference and I'm sure others do, but let's see what occurs, it's Friday though so have a few anyway be on the safe side...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:23:54
Do you think he will screw us over?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:26:47
Do you think he will screw us over?

No idea Tans, let's hope everyone has STFC as their main concern, that's the ethos we came in with.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: corner on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:27:47
Hi Steve.  :bye:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:28:55
I know my preference and I'm sure others do,

You trying to tell us something Steve...   ::)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:31:26
You trying to tell us something Steve...   ::)


No, me?  Just want the club to be run correctly, that was my main concern..


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:33:08
Eurghh..

Just got back home feeling a tad inebriated amd struggling to digest what is happening . One is not looking forward to waking up to this thread tomorrow.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:33:31
@JedMcCoy: Hi All sorry been a busy day since Sam called me to let me no the news 8) Just to let you no I won't let this club down ..#STFC & proud


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:35:27
No, me?  Just want the club to be run correctly, that was my main concern..

I know was only joking...

Oh and thanks for coming on here and setting the story straight, appreciate it!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:41:13
@JedMcCoy: Hi All sorry been a busy day since Sam called me to let me no the news 8) Just to let you no I won't let this club down ..#STFC & proud

Know.  It's know.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:41:47
@JedMcCoy: Hi All sorry been a busy day since Sam called me to let me no the news 8) Just to let you no I won't let this club down ..#STFC & proud

I know Jed will do the right thing for the club..  


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:44:37
...

He Mr Bag, or may I call you Wash.

Earlier on Twitter you gave the impression you were quite certain that Power had invested the dosh, whereas Jed may not have.

Just wondered if I interpreted that correctly, and that you'd favour Power if push came to shove? If so do you have reason to believe that, or is it more a personal evaluation of the facts as you see them?



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:45:54
Whoever put the money in was always pulling the strings. It was never Jed McCrory.

I was going to put a theory out there today that whoever invested had a convertible debenture. I guess it's been converted if that theory is correct.

My hypothesis is that the backer is Colin Hill.

Disclaimer: None of this is certain, factual and is merely a fictional work of my imagination and to be taken as such
Oh and Keith Cousins probably

Disclaimer: None of this is certain, factual and is merely a fictional work of my imagination and to be taken as such
Oh shit.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 29, 2013, 20:57:29
He Mr Bag, or may I call you Wash.

Earlier on Twitter you gave the impression you were quite certain that Power had invested the dosh, whereas Jed may not have.

Just wondered if I interpreted that correctly, and that you'd favour Power if push came to shove? If so do you have reason to believe that, or is it more a personal evaluation of the facts as you see them?



If you want to be informal, then I suppose the might do.


Title: Re:
Post by: otanswell on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:04:54
Were doomee


Title: Re:
Post by: otanswell on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:05:04
D


Title: Re:
Post by: otanswell on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:06:46
Waiting for Jeremy Wray to pipe up now


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: leefer on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:09:23
I dont like the fact he has bought and sold grounds in the past.

Bang on....he is a complete twat who has no interest in football at Swindon never has done which means he is hear for one reason only.
Screwing as much as he can from the club.
Fed the fuck up with it to be honest.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:11:06
Oh shit.

Why?

Genuine question.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:21:54
Why?

Genuine question.

I guess its, well, read this regarding Posh and R&D

http://portsmouthsbluearmy.blogspot.co.uk/2013_03_01_archive.html


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:32:38
I guess its, well, read this regarding Posh and R&D

http://portsmouthsbluearmy.blogspot.co.uk/2013_03_01_archive.html

 :headhurts: I'm off down the pub to get hammered.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:35:22
Can't be arsed to read back, please can someone give a quick summary for those that have missed majority of what's happened today? It'd be much appreciated  :D


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:36:59
Clubs fucked. Thats all you need to know


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:38:19
Can't be arsed to read back, please can someone give a quick summary for those that have missed majority of what's happened today? It'd be much appreciated  :D

- Statement on OS that the ownership of the club had transferred to Power.
- Denial from club sources within club
- Statement removed from website.
- much confusion of WTF is going on. Speculation of a Jed/Power fallout and a fight over club ownership.
- Board meeting to be held at high noon tomorrow. Leave spurs at the door.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: donkey on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:42:58
Leave spurs at the door.

Very good.

By the way can anyone give Andrew Fitton a call...actually Daryl Fitton would do.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:43:47
I though the power struggle pun had been overused ;)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:44:11
Can't be arsed to read back, please can someone give a quick summary for those that have missed majority of what's happened today? It'd be much appreciated  :D

No one really knows, but there are a few drama queens flicking their eyeliner on here, and lots of people in the know that don't really. Tomorrow will be Saturday and the club will be here, and we'll be here, and we'll know more without complete guesses.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:45:35
Did an internet search on Lee Power and found a company called Racing Ahead Weekend Limited with a registered address in Faringdon, Oxon - a Mrs Joanne Power is also named as a director, although it gives her place of residence as London, whilst Mr Power's is Switzerland!!  Known to be a racing man, but based locally??


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: walcot red on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:59:11
looking at the picture of power on the adver site, he should buy some fucking shampoo and wash his hair, looks like a pikey.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:59:22
Cheers Tans, Batch and Sutton Red...The CG will be rife with gossip come kick off tomorrow then, and who knows, maybe even a (positive) outcome!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Friday, November 29, 2013, 22:01:39
With Power supposedly being mates with Diamandis and the fact he has had failed companies like Cre8, him being in control doesn't sit right with me, maybe we should get our orange hats out and get behind the Arkells tomorrow after the game?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, November 29, 2013, 22:05:16
"mates with Diamandis"? where the fuck has that come from?


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Friday, November 29, 2013, 22:05:30
With Power supposedly being mates with Diamandis and the fact he has had failed companies like Cre8, him being in control doesn't sit right with me, maybe we should get our orange hats out and get behind the Arkells tomorrow after the game?
Has Power actually been at a business when it has failed?  And how exactly is he being seen as buddies with diamandis?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, November 29, 2013, 22:18:26
I thought we went through this a few weeks back. Power was in sports publishing at the same time as Diamond Mike, and had dealings with him, as did. 100 a of others, some of whom I know. All have nothing but bad things to say about Diamandis. Suspect Power is no different. I'm not saying we shouldn't be wary of Power but tainting by association everyone Mike D ever came into contact with is going a bit far


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Friday, November 29, 2013, 22:23:57
Jed just retweeted this:-

Posted by Bidwell Accountancy

@JedMcCoy remember running powers out of Luton when he turned up with Gurney. #againstfraudsinfootball


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 22:25:08
Couldnt make this shit up


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Empathy Sloth on Friday, November 29, 2013, 22:27:09
Real professional...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 22:27:42
Jed just retweeted this:-

Posted by Bidwell Accountancy

@JedMcCoy remember running powers out of Luton when he turned up with Gurney. #againstfraudsinfootball

And then tweeted this in response..
--
@John_Pratt85 how do you no that .. Ha... All about #STFC loud& Proud ..
--
So is he asking how @John_Pratt85 knows Power is a 'fraud', or how he knows Jed ran Power out of Luton.

Its all a bit ambiguous.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, November 29, 2013, 22:27:55
Couldnt make this shit up

Well you could but noone would believe it


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, November 29, 2013, 22:28:10
Jed just retweeted this:-

Posted by Bidwell Accountancy

@JedMcCoy remember running powers out of Luton when he turned up with Gurney. #againstfraudsinfootball

He obviously didn't remember when he bought him on board


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Gnasher on Friday, November 29, 2013, 23:03:18
I though the power struggle pun had been overused ;)

Black out followed by a Power surge - couldn't think of one for Jed  :)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Christy on Friday, November 29, 2013, 23:05:54
Did an internet search on Lee Power and found a company called Racing Ahead Weekend Limited with a registered address in Faringdon, Oxon - a Mrs Joanne Power is also named as a director, although it gives her place of residence as London, whilst Mr Power's is Switzerland!!  Known to be a racing man, but based locally??

I wouldn't go looking for too many clues there, although yes, Faringdon is on the money for the horses.  I believe he does have a local residence a good deal closer than London, but still airport convenient.  From a semi-detached perspective the racing interests are

a) small time compared to the global phenomenon that is STFC
b) about a gazillion times more inter-weaving, complex and confusing than last week's Dr Who


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 29, 2013, 23:07:31
Black out followed by a Power surge - couldn't think of one for Jed  :)

Red Jed shed as Power gains power.

pun free mind.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Friday, November 29, 2013, 23:19:16
Is Power his real name or he some kind of superhero ?



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Friday, November 29, 2013, 23:37:50
@John_Pratt85: @JedMcCoy http://t.co/3Fsq9psVJd

Get the fit and proper test done

Apart from it has been. Retweeted by Jed


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Friday, November 29, 2013, 23:38:21
A rugby league side?

Many years ago we were travelling home n the minibus from a 5-0 beating at Newcastle (the one that Gazza played in and Lou Macari bet on) when we stopped for a drink in Castleford.

We were getting on fine with the locals until suddenly there was a bit of a square off that went a bit like this -
"Fuck off back to Swindon you cunts"
"Eh ?"
"I said Fuck of back to Swindon - fucking deaf as well"
"No you fuck off you fucking northern twat"
"you know not to come here you Swindon cunts"
"Why the fuck would we know not to come here, it's a shit town that none of us have ever heard of"
"You know the history"
"What history ?"
"We hate cunts from Swinton" (notice I just started typing Swinton)
"did you say "Swinton" or is that just your twatty northern accent ?
"I said Swinton you fucking Swinton cunts"

"Ah, I think there's been a misunderstanding"

Then we all laughed and had a great night

This did actually happen by th way - virtually word for word  described


M point being...................can't remember


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Friday, November 29, 2013, 23:40:23
The other director of Swinton Reds 20 Ltd is Stephen Crouch who seemed to hold some credibility and reassure people.

Until we have details not really sure what issue is, everyone claimed that Power ran the club anyway, so now he does officially.

I used to like him until he started doing that silly robot dance goal celebration. Nice missus though.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Notts red on Friday, November 29, 2013, 23:51:22
I used to like him until he started doing that silly robot dance goal celebration. Nice missus though.
I think it's the Friday joke thread your looking for?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 00:00:16
Matchday thread versus Crawley - 13 pages
Non story about club ownership - 22 pages


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 00:03:03
Matchday thread versus Crawley - 13 pages
Non story about club ownership - 22 pages

Surprised Crawley thread got that far
Game deserved one maybe 2 pages max


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 00:04:40
If he is involved, The County Ground could be under threat.

Disclaimer: None of this is certain, factual and is merely a fictional work of my imagination and to be taken as such

Don't the council own the freehold ?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 00:08:06
I know Jed will do the right thing for the club..  

I no it two


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: BruceChatwin on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 00:16:01
I think this might have been the scenario Lord Acton foresaw when he wrote "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." 


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 07:40:41
Just exactly what evil plan does everyone think Power has?

The club has no money and no assets. He can't sell the ground and there isn't many options for redeveloping it, unless a major ground rebuilding was part of it. So far he has only done good, especially bringing in players through the Tottenham connection.

Seems to me there is at least a few people that have grudges against the club and the new owners, continually spreading their conspiracy theories and everyone is lapping it up.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 08:05:16
Just logged in to check whether STFC did survive Black Friday and that today's game is still on - subject of course to the board meeting that precedes it.

Did feel a bit guilty not staying up to keep watch on the official club website to see if any statements appeared and then disappeared.

I am very pleased to learn now that I have been lapping up conspiracy theories and can safely revert to concentrating on matchdays with the occasional pleasure of the odd moan when we let one of our stars go for less than £2m.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 08:20:21
Just exactly what evil plan does everyone think Power has?

The club has no money and no assets. He can't sell the ground and there isn't many options for redeveloping it, unless a major ground rebuilding was part of it. So far he has only done good, especially bringing in players through the Tottenham connection.

Seems to me there is at least a few people that have grudges against the club and the new owners, continually spreading their conspiracy theories and everyone is lapping it up.

Well the club had no assets or money or no chance of a new ground when Diamond Mike was here...


Title: Re:
Post by: london_red on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 08:20:29
Did this thread get copy and pasted from three months ago? Have we not done all this hand wringing already? Funny that Jed was slated as a cowboy chancer and now many are desperate for him to stay and ward off the new boogeyman figure of Power.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 08:43:07
Still think Jed is a cowboy chancer. Beginning to think his heart is in the right place though.

The problem with Power is his history and who he previously associated with. No it does not mean history will repeat. But why wouldn't people be cautious.

And to think nothing will have changed by a legal change of ownership of the majority of shares, if that happens, is a bit silly.

But if power is the only gig in town with the money to keep the club going then what choice do we have but to stay vigilent and hope the fears are unfounded.


Title: Re:
Post by: corner on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 09:12:39
Still think Jed is a cowboy chancer. Beginning to think his heart is in the right place though.

The problem with Power is his history and who he previously associated with. No it does not mean history will repeat. But why wouldn't people be cautious.

And to think nothing will have changed by a legal change of ownership of the majority of shares, if that happens, is a bit silly.

But if power is the only gig in town with the money to keep the club going then what choice do we have but to stay vigilent and hope the fears are unfounded.
Agree, I think jed will try and take the club forward and sustainably and as you say his heart does apper to be in the right place, we're as power may go the way of investors crouch injecting cash in players and possible relocation of the stadium, he would be in it for himself.

Just don't understand why jed got him involved in the first place....


Title: Re:
Post by: london_red on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 09:14:10
Not saying nothing has changed, nor that we shouldn't be vigilant. While there is uncertainty I think that's a prudent course of action.

Just saying that the talk (not from you batch) of the club being doomed and donning orange hats seems overreactionary, given Power has been clearly heavily involved in the decision making at the club for 6 months and up until yesterday everyone seemed pretty happy with the off pitch running of the club.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 09:22:38
Agree, I think jed will try and take the club forward and sustainably and as you say his heart does apper to be in the right place, we're as power may go the way of investors crouch injecting cash in players and possible relocation of the stadium, he would be in it for himself.

Just don't understand why jed got him involved in the first place....

To play Devils advocate.

Because Jed had no money and no contacts, he acquired a football club by default as no one else wanted it without admin (he, in no sense of the word, bought the club)

When it became clear he needed some cash and connections to make the thing work, and appointing his drinking buddies to the board wasn't going to cut it, he looked around for urgent help and Lee was willing to step in.

It should be noted that much of our first team has been bought in through Powers connections, most notably with Tim Sherwood at Spurs.

Does this mean Lee's motives are nothing but altruistic and we've nothing to fear? I've no idea but then I had no idea in April when he came in either.

This whole Jed folk hero/ Lee Power evil narrative, that some fans have been constantly parroting over the last few days, is a ridiculous over simplification of an issue that is far from black and white   


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 09:37:18
I wouldn't go looking for too many clues there, although yes, Faringdon is on the money for the horses.  I believe he does have a local residence a good deal closer than London, but still airport convenient.  From a semi-detached perspective the racing interests are

a) small time compared to the global phenomenon that is STFC
b) about a gazillion times more inter-weaving, complex and confusing than last week's Dr Who
The Racing Ahead Weekend Company apparently owns a racing magazine called Racing Plus, published weekends only unless there is a major festival taking place such as Chelteham or Ascot.  This was originally owned by a company called Cre8!!  The plot thickens.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 09:39:58
I wasn't aiming the nothing will change comment at you LR.

It might not mind, but there is the potential.

Other than that I think pwp has it about right


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: BruceChatwin on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 09:43:13
Just exactly what evil plan does everyone think Power has?

The club has no money and no assets. He can't sell the ground and there isn't many options for redeveloping it, unless a major ground rebuilding was part of it. So far he has only done good, especially bringing in players through the Tottenham connection.

Seems to me there is at least a few people that have grudges against the club and the new owners, continually spreading their conspiracy theories and everyone is lapping it up.

I don't think anyone knows what's going on.

But any time a non-Swindon fan wants to take over majority control of the club, you have to question what their motive is, and until Lee Power explains what his motive is, considering the financially unappealing state of Swindon as you describe it, we have to remain cautious about his agenda.

According to the official version of events (from Jed's interview with the advertiser), he brought Power in, even though he "didn’t want to come back into football," to help run the football operations side of things (on which I think consensus agrees he's done well), but for some reason, from being reluctant to be involved, his ambitions have advanced markedly (or were there from the beginning, as the buyout option with Jed might suggest).

Considering our history, and Power's, and the apparently contradictory version of events surrounding his involvement, I think a sceptical approach to this state of affairs remains the healthy approach until we get further clarification.


Title: Re:
Post by: london_red on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 09:44:36
Yeah I agree batch. Still a lot of unknowns, I just feel sometimes a lot of people lurch from one extreme to the other when as PwP says it's usually somewhere in the grey middle. Goes with the territory of being a football fan, and particularly a Swindon fan I suppose!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: the washbag on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 09:59:19
He Mr Bag, or may I call you Wash.

Earlier on Twitter you gave the impression you were quite certain that Power had invested the dosh, whereas Jed may not have.

Just wondered if I interpreted that correctly, and that you'd favour Power if push came to shove? If so do you have reason to believe that, or is it more a personal evaluation of the facts as you see them?



Call me Ron...

Still not sure who I favour at the moment. Both Jed and Lee have positives / negatives. Jed has unrivaled passion and determination, Lee has the money and is the reason why we have the Spurs players. Jed believes everything will turn out alright, Lee doesn't have a great history of involvement at clubs and businesses...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 10:07:06
To play Devils advocate.

Because Jed had no money and no contacts, he acquired a football club by default as no one else wanted it without admin (he, in no sense of the word, bought the club)

When it became clear he needed some cash and connections to make the thing work, and appointing his drinking buddies to the board wasn't going to cut it, he looked around for urgent help and Lee was willing to step in.

It should be noted that much of our first team has been bought in through Powers connections, most notably with Tim Sherwood at Spurs.

Does this mean Lee's motives are nothing but altruistic and we've nothing to fear? I've no idea but then I had no idea in April when he came in either.

This whole Jed folk hero/ Lee Power evil narrative, that some fans have been constantly parroting over the last few days, is a ridiculous over simplification of an issue that is far from black and white   

Pretty much sums up my feelings too. I'm sure that Power's not in it for anyone other than Power, just as I'm not convinced that Jed, who had no links to Swindon before this year, is involved because of his love for football in general, or the club in particular.

At the moment the choice is between a supposedly ruthless businessman who will do pretty much anything to get what he wants, but who has money and contacts, and a supposedly likeable geezer (Who most thought/think is pretty dodgy) who has no money and whose contacts seem to be made up others who have no money (Think B&B owners with dodgy barnets).

Expect it's not really a choice at all, is it? Despite internet forums and the adver running the most pointless poll ever, at the end of the day the person who ends up controlling the club won't be decided by us.



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: the washbag on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 10:13:26
Pretty much sums up my feelings too. I'm sure that Power's not in it for anyone other than Power, just as I'm not convinced that Jed, who had no links to Swindon before this year, is involved because of his love for football in general, or the club in particular.

Steve Murrall well described Jed's reasons for acquiring STFC at the Business Plan presentations in July...

"this is Jed's vanity project to build a reputation for himself in football and to move on and takeover other clubs".

Jed obviously wants to succeed at STFC, otherwise his broader ambitions as a footballing white knight will be frustrated.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 10:23:54
Steve Murrall well described Jed's reasons for acquiring STFC at the Business Plan presentations in July...

"this is Jed's vanity project to build a reputation for himself in football and to move on and takeover other clubs".

Jed obviously wants to succeed at STFC, otherwise his broader ambitions as a footballing white knight will be frustrated.
Yeah. It's not that had we got promoted last season the club could've easily been sold off, debt free, with a tidy profit. It's because Jed wants to play football club owner and we're a stepping stone in his quest...... Neither of those is particularly palatable.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Barry Scott on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 10:50:56
Just exactly what evil plan does everyone think Power has?

The club has no money and no assets. He can't sell the ground and there isn't many options for redeveloping it, unless a major ground rebuilding was part of it. So far he has only done good, especially bringing in players through the Tottenham connection.

Seems to me there is at least a few people that have grudges against the club and the new owners, continually spreading their conspiracy theories and everyone is lapping it up.

Great post. There's not enough rational thought about at the moment. :clap:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 10:52:02
Great post. There's not enough rational thought about at the moment. :clap:
Agreed.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 10:58:06
Great post. There's not enough rational thought about at the moment. :clap:
Rational thought has no place on the tef.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 11:19:50
The Racing Ahead Weekend Company apparently owns a racing magazine called Racing Plus, published weekends only unless there is a major festival taking place such as Chelteham or Ascot.  This was originally owned by a company called Cre8!!  The plot thickens.
How does it thicken? Power has interests in racing and publishing, neither of these are particularly big secrets


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Honkytonk on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 11:42:39
Thank you for some sanity finally... What started as confusion with muppets on twitter has devolved into Power being some kind of supervillain. As Jonny27 said, there are obviously a load of people out there with grudges for one reason or another that are loving all this. Nevermind the conspiracy theorists.

Speaking of which, what's Dossy's opinion on all this?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 12:10:11
Jed is a bullshitter extraordinaire who blagged himself a football club for fuck all and loves the profile it has given him. His PR skills are slightly better than Comical Ali and he has told everyone what they want to hear. Its interesting to note Jeremy Wray's comments about players contracts and amounts owed when Jed took over the club. Jed has been happy to play the white knight while dealing out lies and deceptions. He took his mates on and gave his mate's lad a playing contract.
Whereas I thought he was a cunt we needed to keep an eye on, , in hindsight I think he was clueless and making it up as he went and effectively was / is relatively benign. The problem is his lack of engagement and such obvious bullshit make him look more suspicious than he probably is / was.
As for Power, I think given his past its reasonable to adopt a very apprehensive stance. I still question the link up with Spurs. Personally, I'd rather not have done it but its not been anywhere near as bad as I suspected, although its still early days.
It will be interesting to see if Power engages with the fans and communicates his plans........if he wins the power struggle. Once we've got this and whether his actions match his words, we'll know where we are.
If Jed wins then its probably not unreasonable to expect power to walk and take his money and Spurs players with him. Unless Jed can find a another backer then it may well be hard times and fire sales until we can get on an even keel.
If Power takes over then its all about his plans and whether he takes over the role of bullshitter.
If only we had a white knight with some money. Same old Swindon.   


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 12:30:24
Great post. There's not enough rational thought about at the moment. :clap:

I thought ISOB's post in response to Johnny, was highly rational....the only lapping up going on atm is by Power's pussy.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 13:15:49
Jed is a bullshitter extraordinaire who blagged himself a football club for fuck all and loves the profile it has given him. His PR skills are slightly better than Comical Ali and he has told everyone what they want to hear. Its interesting to note Jeremy Wray's comments about players contracts and amounts owed when Jed took over the club. Jed has been happy to play the white knight while dealing out lies and deceptions. He took his mates on and gave his mate's lad a playing contract.
Whereas I thought he was a cunt we needed to keep an eye on, , in hindsight I think he was clueless and making it up as he went and effectively was / is relatively benign. The problem is his lack of engagement and such obvious bullshit make him look more suspicious than he probably is / was.
As for Power, I think given his past its reasonable to adopt a very apprehensive stance. I still question the link up with Spurs. Personally, I'd rather not have done it but its not been anywhere near as bad as I suspected, although its still early days.
It will be interesting to see if Power engages with the fans and communicates his plans........if he wins the power struggle. Once we've got this and whether his actions match his words, we'll know where we are.
If Jed wins then its probably not unreasonable to expect power to walk and take his money and Spurs players with him. Unless Jed can find a another backer then it may well be hard times and fire sales until we can get on an even keel.
If Power takes over then its all about his plans and whether he takes over the role of bullshitter.
If only we had a white knight with some money. Same old Swindon.   

It's a white knight who actually supports Swindon we could do with. Someone who wants to be here for the long haul. Someone with a vision for our club and has the bollocks to see it through.

we've had more than our fair share of short term 'geezers' whose only interest is how they can make a fast buck out of the club.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: donkey on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 13:22:01
It's a white knight who actually supports Swindon we could do with. Someone who wants to be here for the long haul. Someone with a vision for our club and has the bollocks to see it through.

we've had more than our fair share of short term 'geezers' whose only interest is how they can make a fast buck out of the club.

And how many have actually managed it?  I'd say we've got to be a pretty poor club of choice to try to make money from.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 13:25:23
Did this thread get copy and pasted from three months ago? Have we not done all this hand wringing already? Funny that Jed was slated as a cowboy chancer and now many are desperate for him to stay and ward off the new boogeyman figure of Power.
Really? I've not seen anyone saying that. Plenty of reasons to be wary of Power but that doesn't make Jed any less of a chancer. They both strike me as shonky the only real difference being that Jed comes across shonky and full of shit; whereas Power also comes across shonky but at least seems to have some useful contacts in the game and some cash (apparently). Either way, for now one or the other of them are the only game in town, if they both pull out we could be in trouble. And the sooner it's all sorted, the better.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 13:27:58
. And the sooner it's all sorted, the better.

FOOTBALL: @BBCWiltshire understands that today's board meeting about the ownership of #stfc has been postponed #swindon


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 13:29:31
FOOTBALL: @BBCWiltshire understands that today's board meeting about the ownership of #stfc has been postponed #swindon

Not helpful for the uncertainty to overshadow today's game.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 13:32:49
FOOTBALL: @BBCWiltshire understands that today's board meeting about the ownership of #stfc has been postponed #swindon
Oh FFS.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 13:37:50
FOOTBALL: @BBCWiltshire understands that today's board meeting about the ownership of #stfc has been postponed until half-time #swindon


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Abrahammer on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 13:39:45
The easiest day for the board to get together is surely a matchday but they can even do that properly


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: otanswell on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 13:40:39
soapy tit wank can't make it up


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 13:48:18
Oh FFS.

Quite, I'm hoping its because both sides are still talking informally to resole any issues. But being STFC I bet it'll be lawyers opening various cans and counter-cans of whoopass.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 14:24:39
And how many have actually managed it?  I'd say we've got to be a pretty poor club of choice to try to make money from.

M
Nobody knows what previous incumbents have taken out of the club - or have tried to to the detriment of the club


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 15:55:45
Jed is seeking legal advice before sitting down for the board meeting later in the week


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Panda Paws on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 17:06:30
Shah on BBC Swindon right now clearing things up


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 17:08:44
We're financially robust?

Generous.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 17:08:47
What she saying, not listening


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: corner on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 17:13:24
The football league have approved a deal for swinton reds (power and crouch) to have a 60% share with seebeck (jed and sangita) keeping the rest,


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 17:19:08
The football league have approved a deal for swinton reds (power and crouch) to have a 60% share with seebeck (jed and sangita) keeping the rest,

But not activated
Jed still owns club


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: corner on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 17:23:21
@AndyWarren_: Some words from Shah now here http://t.co/pAsLogvoCi


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: janaage on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 17:24:12
Why are they called Swinton Reds? Is it an existing company?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 17:50:51
Why are they called Swinton Reds? Is it an existing company?

Set up by Power and Crouch just after the takeover.

Date of Incorporation: 26/03/2013

I'm still hoping the name reflects a hilarious Swindon/Swinton reds mix up.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: OrangeTransits on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 18:00:48
If they'd called it Swindon Reds, no doubt someone on here would have found it. So they called it Swinton Reds to cover up what ever the evil master plan is .....


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 18:07:57
If they'd called it Swindon Reds, no doubt someone on here would have found it. So they called it Swinton Reds to cover up what ever the evil master plan is .....

But it was found even with their cunning disguise....


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: dalumpimunki on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 18:43:03
Set up by Power and Crouch just after the takeover.

Date of Incorporation: 26/03/2013

I'm still hoping the name reflects a hilarious Swindon/Swinton reds mix up.

I doubt there's much to be read into the name I think it's an off the shelf company set up by some law firm from the Altringham area.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 18:57:29
Not helpful for the uncertainty to overshadow today's game.
I wasn't at the game but it didn't seem to cause any problems on the pitch. Perhaps Jed and Lee can drag this out for a bit longer to see if coincides with an improvement in form?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 19:12:09
Herthab will back me up on this. Dont trust either of them


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 19:21:29
Herthab will back me up on this. Dont trust either of them
Something specific?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 19:25:26
Has everyone forgotten that we are, arguably, playing our best football since Hoddle?

Think you all need to get a grip and stop looking for reasons to moan about something.

And I'm still waiting for someone to provide a feasible despicable plan that Power could be cooking up.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 19:30:02
Has everyone forgotten that we are, arguably, playing our best football since Hoddle?
No. But that doesn't mean people aren't justified in being concerned about what appears to be a pretty serious boardroom split and a potential forced change of ownership.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 19:31:06
Well johnny if you want to bring football into it then should power fuck off will he take the spurs players too (via Sherwood)?

I think having debate and caution over the situation is entirely reasonable.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 19:35:29
Something specific?

Pmd


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 19:41:56
Pmd
How did you know my middle initial was M? :)


Title: Re:
Post by: herthab on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 19:46:13
What the chairman said in person today in the legends was markedly different to what he was messaging someone last night. this leads me ro believe he is full of shit.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 19:47:35
What the chairman said in person today in the legends was markedly different to what he was messaging someone last night. this leads me ro believe he is full of shit.

Thankyou Steve


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: manc_red on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 19:50:41
Has everyone forgotten that we are, arguably, playing our best football since Hoddle?

Think you all need to get a grip and stop looking for reasons to moan about something.

And I'm still waiting for someone to provide a feasible despicable plan that Power could be cooking up.

Its not really about any "despicable plan" that either one of them might (or probably doesn't) have, or even about the personalities involved - its more the fact that there's a blatant boardroom split which has culminated in the Chairman tweeting (or re-tweeting) about running the main, and probably only, backer out of town.

Not ideal is it.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:11:10
No. But that doesn't mean people aren't justified in being concerned about what appears to be a pretty serious boardroom split and a potential forced change of ownership.

So you're all getting upset about two blokes having a pissing match for the right to cover the clubs losses for the foreseeable future?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:23:11
So you're all getting upset about two blokes having a pissing match for the right to cover the clubs losses for the foreseeable future?
No, folks are suggesting that given their past history and our club's recent history, it might be an idea to be a bit wary. The best case scenario is the two "Shootout at the Potless Corral" scenario that you suggest. Sadly, these things have a habit of involving a fair degree of collateral damage and given the chosen venue appears to be our club, it's understandable people are nervous.

But feel free to do your ostrich act if beating a poor Carlisle side is enough to convince you that everything's absolutely fine.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:32:58
What the chairman said in person today in the legends was markedly different to what he was messaging someone last night. this leads me ro believe he is full of shit.
Fuck me my illusion is truly shattered. Jed in bullshitting shocker.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: manc_red on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:39:00
Fuck me my illusion is truly shattered. Jed in bullshitting shocker.

Ha, yeah, who'd have thunk it  :D


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:39:32
Fuck me my illusion is truly shattered. Jed in bullshitting shocker.
To be honest it just confirmed what I suspected. Although seeing it with my own eyes was quite amusing. He must think all Town fans are fucking gullible idiots. To fair, the fawning twats on twitter would reinforce that view.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:41:25
To be honest it just confirmed what I suspected. Although seeing it with my own eyes was quite amusing. He must think all Town fans are fucking gullible idiots. To fair, the fawning twats on twitter would reinforce that view.

:D

It was when me and you just looked at each other and shook our heads :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

FWIW i heard they were approached by a consortium involving Nick watkins and were told it would cost 7 million quid to take the club on. Nice work


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:45:08
My opinion is it's bad news whether it's Jed or Power running this club, wish they would do us a favour and sell up.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:47:07
Who's going to buy us?  That's the question I always have to ask when 'sack the board' rings out around the ground.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:48:33
Talktalk and gary stanley


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:49:09
:D

It was when me and you just looked at each other and shook our heads :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

FWIW i heard they were approached by a consortium involving Nick watkins and were told it would cost 7 million quid to take the club on. Nice work

I can verify I have heard the same from a reliable source but no mention of who. 6/7 million it was suggested they wanted for the club. By all a counts the. Pub is far far from financially solvent.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:49:48
My opinion is it's bad news whether it's Jed or Power running this club, wish they would do us a favour and sell up.
who the fuck are they going to sell it to?

The buyers were hardly queuing up at the turn of the year when we were arguably in a better position. We've ended up with Jed/Power because no other fucker was willing to buy


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:50:21
Talktalk and gary stanley
It's the dream ticket we've all been waiting for.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:50:33
I can verify I have heard the same from a reliable source but no mention of who. 6/7 million it was suggested they wanted for the club. By all a counts the. Pub is far far from financially solvent.

As is my typing on a broken iPhone 4...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 20:56:39
who the fuck are they going to sell it to?

The buyers were hardly queuing up at the turn of the year when we were arguably in a better position. We've ended up with Jed/Power because no other fucker was willing to buy
Other parties were interested but couldn't / wouldn't work to the timescales


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 21:01:09
I can verify I have heard the same from a reliable source but no mention of who. 6/7 million it was suggested they wanted for the club. By all a counts the. Pub is far far from financially solvent.
Which pub? Is it the Merlin?


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 21:02:49
It's the dream ticket we've all been waiting for.
We'd end up playing in denim. And each player would have to wear a single glove.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 21:09:38
We'd end up playing in denim. And each player would have to wear a single glove.

We would also have a wall built round the CG to create the illusion of a new stadium


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 21:10:34
Which pub? Is it the Merlin?

Merlin far from solvent. Think one or 2 of the board been on the solvents


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: axs on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 21:33:42
What was he lying / contradicting himself about?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Saturday, November 30, 2013, 23:12:47
Herthab will back me up on this. Dont trust either of them

I don't, and never have.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 01:17:35
I don't, and never have.

Me neither, hertha is a taxi stealing git and tans has a dodgy brother, no smoke without fire etc etc.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Talk Talk on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 01:32:56
Talktalk and gary stanley

Well as someone who has actually grown and run buinesses in the past I think I stand a better chance than this couple of comedians. With or without Gazza's help (although he would do cracking job on the wet sales).


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 02:32:28
Just exactly what evil plan does everyone think Power has?

The club has no money and no assets. He can't sell the ground and there isn't many options for redeveloping it, unless a major ground rebuilding was part of it. So far he has only done good, especially bringing in players through the Tottenham connection.

Seems to me there is at least a few people that have grudges against the club and the new owners, continually spreading their conspiracy theories and everyone is lapping it up.

Or it seems there are people who know that things have gone on behind the scenes and they're throwing ideas out there to make sense of it all.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @MacPhlea on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 07:47:53
Set up by Power and Crouch just after the takeover.

Date of Incorporation: 26/03/2013

I'm still hoping the name reflects a hilarious Swindon/Swinton reds mix up.

The T represents the Tottenham link... Could have been less subtle and gone for something like  Swinenham Reds or Tottendon Yids or Swinspurs or Hot Swine Tott Spur Dons


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: otanswell on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 10:24:44
Me neither, hertha is a taxi stealing git and tans has a dodgy brother, no smoke without fire etc etc.

Love you too Paul haha


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 10:45:41
The T represents the Tottenham link... Could have been less subtle and gone for something like  Swinenham Reds or Tottendon Yids or Swinspurs or Hot Swine Tott Spur Dons

Of course, its all so obvious. Turning us into 'Tottenham B' by changing one letter of the holding company per-takeover. Well we see your little game now Power.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: leefer on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 10:51:06
Or it seems there are people who know that things have gone on behind the scenes and they're throwing ideas out there to make sense of it all.

You do believe in miracles then Sie.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: manc_red on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 18:09:23
Of course, its all so obvious. Turning us into 'Tottenham B' by changing one letter of the holding company per-takeover. Well we see your little game now Power.

Interesting article - http://www.footballspy365.net/spurs-feeder-club-swindon-town-blatant-breach-premier-league-football-league-rules/

A lot of unsubstantiated claims but its only what many suspected anyway I suppose.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 18:14:10
Yes, Tottenham are risking their qualification for Europe in order to get three players out on loan who could have gone to other sides anyway, that sounds totally logical.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 18:18:30
Interesting article - http://www.footballspy365.net/spurs-feeder-club-swindon-town-blatant-breach-premier-league-football-league-rules/

A lot of unsubstantiated claims but its only what many suspected anyway I suppose.
fair enough if you consider total bullshit as something interesting


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 18:19:27
Written by an Arsenal fan no doubt.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 18:20:03
fair enough if you consider total bullshit as something interesting

I find most of what's written on the TEF as interesting...so it is possible.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 18:27:18
Interesting article - http://www.footballspy365.net/spurs-feeder-club-swindon-town-blatant-breach-premier-league-football-league-rules/

A lot of unsubstantiated claims but its only what many suspected anyway I suppose.
What absolute shit.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 18:44:57
Hope it is absolute shit. Should be, can't see how having 3 players on loan from a club would allowed that club to dictate anything to our  management team.

The breach of rules as accusation I don't buy at all.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 18:48:16
Sherwood definitely has an influence.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 18:49:03
Sherwood definitely has an influence.
in how we play? Fucking hope not.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 18:53:44
Sherwood definitely has an influence.
An influence on who and what is he influencing? How do you know this for a fact? What are you basing this on?

This is exactly the type of unhelpful 'ITK' post that is aimed at unsettling people which this forum is becoming full of.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 19:02:01
An influence on who and what is he influencing? How do you know this for a fact? What are you basing this on?

This is exactly the type of unhelpful 'ITK' post that is aimed at unsettling people which this forum is becoming full of.
stfc2012 obviously has some kind of agenda. Why or what is anyones guess.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 19:26:47
stfc2012 obviously has some kind of agenda. Why or what is anyones guess.

Influencing playing style. How much involvement I do not know but that he is, is why the story started. I mentioned nothing of Premier League rule breaking as I don't know them So well. I've not said it a negative to have assistance from Sherwood, but the article states much more than that. The article suggests he's running the show. I don't have an agenda. I like the style, I think Power has got us good players, Ive not made my mind up about any of the board, and I want to see the club succeed.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: manc_red on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 19:39:43
Well clearly we've had a few favours from them with the loan players - I'm pretty sure Mason and Pritchard could've gone out to Championship clubs. It might well be nothing more than Sherwood helping his mate out but I can see why some people might suspect that there's a quid pro quo in there somewhere.

That blog is obviously written by someone with an axe to grind and I don't buy most of it, but that said, I'd also be surprised if Sherwood/Spurs didn't have *some* sort of influence somewhere along the line. Fans of any other club Cooper's managed will tell you he's always been a hoofball merchant - a bit odd that he's suddenly become a purveyor of total football, no? Could be Jed or Power's influence rather than Sherwood's though I suppose, and given the quality football we're playing at the moment I'm not sure I really give a fuck whose 'influenced' it anyway, provided that it isn't (and doesn't become) anything more than that.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 19:45:57
More importantly, Holly Willoughby is on the box at the moment, she's definitely not fat.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 19:47:36
Influencing playing style. How much involvement I do not know but that he is, is why the story started. I mentioned nothing of Premier League rule breaking as I don't know them So well. I've not said it a negative to have assistance from Sherwood, but the article states much more than that. The article suggests he's running the show. I don't have an agenda. I like the style, I think Power has got us good players, Ive not made my mind up about any of the board, and I want to see the club succeed.
Fair enough.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 19:51:10
More importantly, Holly Willoughby is on the box at the moment, she's definitely not fat.
Not even Holly Willoughby's ample charms is enough to make me watch that dross.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 19:51:58
Quote
Who is Footballspy365?
Due to the very nature of what I am doing right here on my site, I can’t really tell you who I am. That must remain incognito for legal reasons.

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Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:39:35
I really am struggling to keep quiet at the moment after the joke of Fridays club statement / retracted statement and figures qouted.  I can assure you all that there is nowhere near 2.2m invested, the initial 1.2m was a short term loan to Jed, paid back in 10 days and the requirement for the whole of the season was no more than  800k.  This is fact.  Anyone wants to argue with me let me know.  I think I will make a statement tomorrow detailing the facts as this is just getting ridiculous.   The key thing is STFC, not anyones ego or other agenda's.  There are things that are not right and all the work putting things on an even keel are being undone.  Happy to speak to Shaun or Sam on Monday. Really fed up.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:44:50
 :yikes:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:48:37
I really am struggling to keep quiet at the moment after the joke of Fridays club statement / retracted statement and figures qouted.  I can assure you all that there is nowhere near 2.2m invested, the initial 1.2m was a short term loan to Jed, paid back in 10 days and the requirement for the whole of the season was no more than  800k.  This is fact.  Anyone wants to argue with me let me know.  I think I will make a statement tomorrow detailing the facts as this is just getting ridiculous.   The key thing is STFC, not anyones ego or other agenda's.  There are things that are not right and all the work putting things on an even keel are being undone.  Happy to speak to Shaun or Sam on Monday. Really fed up.
Should be interesting.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:48:40
I really am struggling to keep quiet at the moment after the joke of Fridays club statement / retracted statement and figures qouted.  I can assure you all that there is nowhere near 2.2m invested, the initial 1.2m was a short term loan to Jed, paid back in 10 days and the requirement for the whole of the season was no more than  800k.  This is fact.  Anyone wants to argue with me let me know.  I think I will make a statement tomorrow detailing the facts as this is just getting ridiculous.   The key thing is STFC, not anyones ego or other agenda's.  There are things that are not right and all the work putting things on an even keel are being undone.  Happy to speak to Shaun or Sam on Monday. Really fed up.
As Jed's supposed reason for becoming involved in the first place has been reported as a 'vanity project' I think ego's and agendas are things that both protagonists have in spades. Why wait till Monday?  Why not just put it on here?


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:51:06
As Jed's supposed reason for becoming involved in the first place has been reported as a 'vanity project' I think ego's and agendas are things that both protagonists have in spades. Why wait till Monday?  Why not just put it on here?

I never ever said it was a vanity project that is a misquote.   There is a struggle for control clearly, I can only speak as I find and I find a lot of what is said to be complete bollocks.


Title: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:54:28
I'd get Shaun and Sam in the same room, Steve.

Football finance should not be this opaque.  The more I read, the more I am drawn to a model where the fans, even if they do not have outright control as on Germany, have more of a say in the running of a football business than they do at present.  Football is not just another business.  There are too many stakeholders with an intense emotional attachment.  You seem to get this.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:55:30
Come on Steve, lets have a real 'TEF Exclusive'

Join acclaimed company such as myself by giving the masses some real inside information.

Make a name for yourself.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:56:51
Who the fuck is Shaun?


Title: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:57:40
Has Hodgetts moved on?  Sorry.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: OrangeTransits on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:57:56
Who the fuck is Shaun?

I am Sean, is that close enough  :)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:59:08
Come on Steve, lets have a real 'TEF Exclusive'

Join acclaimed company such as myself by giving the masses some real inside information.
 
Make a name for yourself.
 :clap: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 20:59:30
I'd get Shaun and Sam in the same room, Steve.

Football finance should not be this opaque.  The more I read, the more I am drawn to a model where the fans, even if they do not have outright control as on Germany, have more of a say in the running of a football business than they do at present.  Football is not just another business.  There are too many stakeholders with an intense emotional attachment.  You seem to get this.

I do get it.  I also get that nonone should be intimidated into anything and there is a lot of that going on, we, and by that I mean the fans and the people who have this club at heart should have the facts and have a say.  When we took over in Feb this was our plan...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: janaage on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 21:04:28
Who the fuck is Shaun?

Shaun Williamson aka Barry from Eastenders.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: godders39 on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 21:48:40
What has really annoyed me is a Shahs statement suggesting we are financially robust....so please explain why we owe Adidas serious money and a number of other suppliers have sent us legal letters demanding payment...at what point does that constitute a "robust" financial situation...
We are not being told the truth and these people are playing god with my / our football club....


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 21:51:53
I do get it.  I also get that nonone should be intimidated into anything and there is a lot of that going on, we, and by that I mean the fans and the people who have this club at heart should have the facts and have a say.  When we took over in Feb this was our plan...
At its worst this is clearly bollocks at its best I would say it was a badly executed plan. We were left totally in the fucking dark. Embargoes were going to be explained they weren't. What Jed had for tea was under a fucking non disclosure embargo.
Don't get me wrong I have a very, very bad feeling about Power but I had a very, very bad feeling about you guys. Unfortunately, when Jed was so obviously full of shit and you going macho on the Adver it does not instil trust and shows a lack of understanding of our history with owners.
If I had to pick sides I'm very very slightly on Jeds but I'd be very happen for both parties to get the fuck out of my club.
I thought years ago we'd be better off walklng away from the club and setting up a Swindon AFC or whatever to get rid of the fucking pieces of shit that were attached to the club, like fucking dogshit you can't scrape off our shoes. I'm not far from that stage again.
There comes a point when Town fans will just go "fuck it".


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: manc_red on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 21:53:35
... a number of other suppliers have sent us legal letters demanding payment...

Sauce?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 22:01:06
What has really annoyed me is a Shahs statement suggesting we are financially robust....so please explain why we owe Adidas serious money and a number of other suppliers have sent us legal letters demanding payment...at what point does that constitute a "robust" financial situation...
We are not being told the truth and these people are playing god with my / our football club....

In fairness, I don't think "robust" as it would apply to a normal company would apply to more than about five football clubs in the whole country.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 22:03:15
At its worst this is clearly bollocks at its best I would say it was a badly executed plan. We were left totally in the fucking dark. Embargoes were going to be explained they weren't. What Jed had for tea was under a fucking non disclosure embargo.
Don't get me wrong I have a very, very bad feeling about Power but I had a very, very bad feeling about you guys. Unfortunately, when Jed was so obviously full of shit and you going macho on the Adver it does not instil trust and shows a lack of understanding of our history with owners.
If I had to pick sides I'm very very slightly on Jeds but I'd be very happen for both parties to get the fuck out of my club.
I thought years ago we'd be better off walklng away from the club and setting up a Swindon AFC or whatever to get rid of the fucking pieces of shit that were attached to the club, like fucking dogshit you can't scrape off our shoes. I'm not far from that stage again.
There comes a point when Town fans will just go "fuck it".

you know what  you have a nerve telling me this is bollocks.  I personally worked 14 hour days 7 days a week trying to save this club and it was Jed
 who put his name to it.  We might not have had millions in the bank but we took it on, we made the hard choices and I implemented those choices.  I hope you took some chances in your life and career to make such negative comments.  I know the facts around this club and know we did our best for the club.  I want that to continue.



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 22:09:19
you know what  you have a nerve telling me this is bollocks.  I personally worked 14 hour days 7 days a week trying to save this club and it was Jed
 who put his name to it.  We might not have had millions in the bank but we took it on, we made the hard choices and I implemented those choices.  I hope you took some chances in your life and career to make such negative comments.  I know the facts around this club and know we did our best for the club.  I want that to continue.


Read it again. I said at its worst it is bollox. At its best it was badly executed.
I've taken several chances in my life - some good some bad. Sometimes I've acted well, sometimes I've acted badly.
The shame is that if what you say it is true then why the fuck has it come to this before we're finally told the truth.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: leefer on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 22:12:44
Matchday thread 13 pages....this thread 30 pages.

Sadly says it all to me really.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 22:13:40
Read it again. I said at its worst it is bollox. At its best it was badly executed.
I've taken several chances in my life - some good some bad. Sometimes I've acted well, sometimes I've acted badly.
The shame is that if what you say it is true then why the fuck has it come to this before we're finally told the truth.

I apologise if I have misread your comments, however I have never not told the truth in regards to the club.  I tried to leave with dignity but things have occurred over the last week that clearly need giving context to.  By the way I respect your comments on chances...  I think we have many things in common.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 22:30:05
Time to get the orange hats back out........


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 22:31:01
Matchday thread 13 pages....this thread 30 pages.

Sadly says it all to me really.

Possibly because the subject matter here will potentially have an effect for Club for years to come, where as the result of Saturday's game will not.  Know what you mean (and I'd love to be able to talk about football and nothing else), but life isn't like that.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 22:31:08
I've just been thinking about that survey that labelled us 2nd most stressful club to follow a few years back. I'm starting to get a horrible feeling we might be moving up a place shortly.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 22:35:13
I apologise if I have misread your comments, however I have never not told the truth in regards to the club.  I tried to leave with dignity but things have occurred over the last week that clearly need giving context to.  By the way I respect your comments on chances...  I think we have many things in common.
Well lets see how the next few days unfold. I've followed the club 42 years and am a miserable fucker at the best of times - maybe the 2 are connected. Sometimes I come across a bit stronger than I mean but beer and passion are a heady mix.
I really want to believe you Steve, I really want to believe Jed. Saying that I really want to believe Power. Hopefully in the coming weeks I'll have sufficient information to make an informed judgement rather than a gut feel. At the moment I feel the club is very vulnerable and that makes me very wary of everyone, if not a little scared.  
Its great that you're on here and I respect that.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 22:36:34
Ditto what chalkies said although he has a couple of years more invested than me.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: 4D on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 23:29:46
Haven't read much of this but what can Steve say or do now that will change anything?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, December 1, 2013, 23:35:31
Haven't read much of this but what can Steve say or do now that will change anything?

If there are underhand dealings going on, lies being told, he could make them public?  Assuming there's not another NDA in place.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: DMR on Monday, December 2, 2013, 00:38:41
This is gradually rousing my interest in STFC again after years of not giving a flying.

Fuck those posh cunts from Ramsbury and their empty niceties, I'm all for the shysters.

We've survived worse.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: DMR on Monday, December 2, 2013, 00:40:39
If there are underhand dealings going on, lies being told, he could make them public?  Assuming there's not another NDA in place.

If it degenerates in to public mud slinging it would be more of a farce than it already is.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Monday, December 2, 2013, 05:56:43
If it degenerates in to public mud slinging it would be more of a farce than it already is.
You say that as if it's a bad thing.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Monday, December 2, 2013, 06:41:52
Good of Steve to come on here. I'm prepared to see what he says as he may well have been trying to walk with dig its but now just had enough. The fact Shah is Team Jed warrants them at least some credibility and if it turns out they are full of shit the. I don't think anyone will be that surprised. But they need a chance, and fans need to know the real deal ASAP.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 2, 2013, 07:51:05
This is gradually rousing my interest in STFC again after years of not giving a flying.

Fuck those posh cunts from Ramsbury and their empty niceties, I'm all for the shysters.
Well before them we had posh shysters from Ramsbury and their empty heads, best of both worlds ;)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 2, 2013, 07:51:45
If it degenerates in to public mud slinging
I think that ship's sailed tbh. Although I'll grant you it could yet and probably will degenerate further


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 2, 2013, 08:08:31
Ha, by far the best thing I've seen on this is, unsurprisingly, on the Washbag:
(http://fraserdigbyswashbag.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/boardroom-bout-2.png?w=918)
The accompanying article is a pretty good piece too:
http://thewashbag.com/2013/12/02/mccrory-vs-power-bout-of-the-boardroom-for-swindon-takeover/

And for those who are regarding this as a "non-story" with no impact on the club, the piece makes the very pertinent point that if Power has indeed been the major source of day-to-day funding after the season ticket money/forward sale of catering etc was all spent, then this dispute may well make him (or his backers) reluctant to continue to provide such funds. Just at the time that we have a transfer window about to open and a bidding war being touted for Wes.....


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, December 2, 2013, 08:28:31
Sauce?

FWIW I've also heard this


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Monday, December 2, 2013, 09:37:16
Sam has confiemd on twitter that he has tried to get hold of Steve M but has been unable to  - let's hope they can talk and we can get the inside track - unless someone has got to steve during the night to keep him quiet :>)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, December 2, 2013, 09:45:25
That Washbag article is decent.

Power is the money man, and without him we're fucked. I hope Jed swallows his pride.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Only Me on Monday, December 2, 2013, 09:47:08
Well lets see how the next few days unfold. I've followed the club 42 years and am a miserable fucker at the best of times - maybe the 2 are connected. Sometimes I come across a bit stronger than I mean but beer and passion are a heady mix.
I really want to believe you Steve, I really want to believe Jed. Saying that I really want to believe Power. Hopefully in the coming weeks I'll have sufficient information to make an informed judgement rather than a gut feel. At the moment I feel the club is very vulnerable and that makes me very wary of everyone, if not a little scared.  
Its great that you're on here and I respect that.
Well, instead of trying to knock the comments on here, wait for the outcome then comment on the facts.

Hopefully that will reduce your stress levels a bit. Otherwise carry on as you are and stress yourself out on anything you remotely disagree with (which is likely to be this comment)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Monday, December 2, 2013, 10:05:49
Fully expecting SM to bottle it today. He has his chance and he's said he's going on record. But I can feel a U-Turn coming.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ticker45 on Monday, December 2, 2013, 10:30:46
Being even older than chalkies-shorts, I have witnessed real ups and downs of the various people in "charge" of the Town and
this present little fiasco does not bode well.

I do not ever expect to be told the whole truth of the current situation but would appreciate it if it were sorted one way or another quickly as another drawn out saga is not in anyone's interest.

 :no:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Arriba on Monday, December 2, 2013, 10:42:42
This type of thing is the norm for STFC now isn't it. Got to be honest and say i've hardly batted an eyelid at this new issue dragging STFC through the mud and this is my first comment on it.
Nothing surprises me anymore where we are concerned. Jed and co looked a ropey outfit from the start imo but it's hard not to like the guy.
 I'm pretty sure if it was the fans in charge there would still be problems in the boardroom too,only the'd have no contacts or money either. We've got lucky with getting talented kids from Spurs,without that I'm sure we'd be fucked on the pitch as well as the shite going on off it.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Monday, December 2, 2013, 10:56:27
Fredis back i see

Quote
An attempt at some clarity. A brief resume of the facts is necessary, not least so that fans know who they need to support in all this, however unpalatable that may seem. When Billy Liar bought the club for £1, together with Martin King who because of his disqualified director status remains in the background, but is still 50/50 with Billy, they managed to stump up the £1 themselves. The club had substantial cash in the bank , having just taken in the season ticket money, but substantial ongoing liabilities in the months ahead, based on the budget of the previous Board which Black was no longer prepared to fund.
 
Billy, King and sidekick Murrall immediately helped themselves to some of the lovely cash (innitogether some might say), to the tune of nearly £200k. They then seek outside investment for the club, up steps Greg Hall, who becomes a director, but when he discovers the lies Billy has told him, he decides not to invest. Enter Lee Power, who steps into the investor role and is persuaded to pay off Hall for his troubles and a further £150k to Billy and King for an equity stake. As the club continues to need funds over the following months, Power puts more cash in.
 
Fast forward to about a month ago. Power is concerned about the continued cash outflows, grabs control of the bank account and is horrified at payments made without his knowledge, not least to Billy's account in Malta. Murrall is asked in no uncertain terms to leave. Power, furious at the lies Billy has told him, tries to get control of the club. Problem is, despite investing in the club, Power has not secured the proper paperwork to reflect what he believes is his true stake in the club. His latest investment , he believes, triggers an option to take control of a majority holding, but, from a legal standpoint, does it ?
 
Meanwhile Billy, probably realizing the game is nearly up, renews attempts initiated a few months earlier to flog the club. A third party is mandated to sell it and is currently hawking it around, Billy and King only wanting £1M each for their share !!
 
There are only two answers to the poll the Adver ran on Friday and sadly, one of them ("neither") is not realistic. Fans may have preconceived ideas about Power, but at least he has been putting money into our club not sucking it out. Billy has done the complete opposite whilst maintaining an almost admirable bravado. Not surprisingly, the Club has suffered in the interim, as debts pile up. Legal writs for payments not made are in danger of sinking it and trade creditors, with key people like pitch and kit suppliers at the forefront, are at horrific levels. To gain our support, Power should be upfront about these issues, fans respect honesty. He also needs to put someone in daily charge that he can trust and who is credible - if he can only be in the country 90 days then he needs a proper chief exec.

Let's be clear, Power's plans may be painful to witness, as the budget is slashed to pre Sturrock levels. Wes and others will leave in Jan. But we may still have a club to support - the alternative is unthinkable.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:01:24
Who the fuck is Billy Liar?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:01:48
Fredis back i see

Yes she is.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Arriba on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:03:00
Who the fuck is Billy Liar?
I'm guessing Jed


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: kerry red on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:06:19
TBH that all sounds entirely feasible.

It is probably the domesday scenario some people feared at the outset.

As for Jed et al wanting £1m each for their shares - the business is only worth what the books show.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:10:13
Did we ever figure out who fredi is?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:12:13
Did we ever figure out who fredi is?
We didn't. but Jed knows who she is apparently.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:14:08
TBH that all sounds entirely feasible.

It is probably the domesday scenario some people feared at the outset.

As for Jed et al wanting £1m each for their shares - the business is only worth what the books show.

Well it would, wouldn't it? Anybody with half a brain would know to devise a story that would sound feasible otherwise what would be the point.

Whether or not there's an ounce of truth in it remains to seen.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:17:59
Well it would, wouldn't it? Anybody with half a brain would know to devise a story that would sound feasible otherwise what would be the point.

Whether or not there's an ounce of truth in it remains to seen.
Exactly my thoughts too.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:18:14
I'm guessing Jed
me too. Nickname used to avoid liable..


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:28:25
Fredi had numerous chances to put up or shut up and she has done neither. Not interested.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:32:56
there are some pretty direct accusations in there that I would of thought Billy might also be running past his lawyers. Looking forward to Steve Murrell's take on it all..... and what is Sangita Shah's role in all of this I wonder Fredi if you are reading? What is the point of this much discussed audit?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:34:56
I thought the consensus was that Fredi was a disgruntled ex-employee who'd been fed misinformation so if they leaked it the board would know who it was?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:38:13
I thought the consensus was that Fredi was a disgruntled ex-employee who'd been fed misinformation so if they leaked it the board would know who it was?

Well I don't know about the rest of it, by Sam M has confirmed Martin Kings involvement on twitter.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:38:53
I actually suspect that there is some truth in it.

Fredi's MO seems to be to take something that is true and spin it into something that sounds a lot worse than it is. (Think Mercedes hire). It's quite effective as people still refer to the Merc hire, for example, as 'proof' that she was correct. She'd be good at writing horoscopes that use barnum statements which are wide open to interpretation and lead the reader into thinking that the statements were bang on the money. What she is doing is very similar.

Fredi may be a lot of things, but she isn't stupid.




Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:39:32
Well I don't know about the rest of it, by Sam M has confirmed Martin Kings involvement on twitter.

We've known about his involvement for a long time.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Monday, December 2, 2013, 11:46:48
How do we know Fredi is a female? If so I'd expect it to narrow it down a wee bit as there are not that many women involved in football matters relating to STFC. *I'm all for females in sport BTW!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:06:00
and there's more from Fredi

Chish, watch the film Billy Liar and you may get the analogy. This is not personal against Jed, he strikes me as a chancer who may have unwittingly ended up running the show and is now living the role. Sangita Shah was brought in as the face of credibility but she too has expressed her frustration at the stories she has been told. She has her reputation to protect and I doubt she will stay on the Board for long. Look to me it's quite simple. Power has put money into our club, so gains my respect. He may subsequently have had regrets, but has made further investment (more respect) and not unreasonably needs to protect his position. I have no idea what his ultimate motives are, but if he sells the club for a profit a year down the line, good luck to him. Irrefutably, Jed has taken money out of our club during a period when the club is desperately short of funds. This hardly seems in the best interests of the club and at best is a p*ss take after investing 50p.

So Sangita Shah is being made a mug out of too?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:08:14
Quote
Irrefutably

?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:09:04
Fully expecting SM to bottle it today. He has his chance and he's said he's going on record. But I can feel a U-Turn coming.

I am speaking with Sam this afternoon.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Arriba on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:10:08
Well if Fredi is a liar and Jed knows who they are then he has plenty of grounds to sue them. More than enough claims have been made true or not?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:12:38
Well if Fredi is a liar and Jed knows who they are then he has plenty of grounds to sue them. More than enough claims have been made true or not?
Good point


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: kerry red on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:12:50
Does it not seem strange how these stories blow up just before a transfer window opens.

All the players we've had that have been sold off for less than their actual value and that money, we're always told, is needed to keep the club afloat. Maybe to cover up that the money actually ends up in someone's pocket.

Wes looks best bet to keep this going


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:13:39
I am speaking with Sam this afternoon.

Steve, there have been some worrying rumours of suppliers not getting paid on here, can you shed any light on these? Or is it nonsense?

thanks


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stevemurrall on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:19:16
Steve, there have been some worrying rumours of suppliers not getting paid on here, can you shed any light on these? Or is it nonsense?

thanks

I will cover this aspect when I speak with Sam PWP.



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:21:34
I will cover this aspect when I speak with Sam PWP.



Thanks Steve, look forward to reading it.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:22:29
Steve...I have heard that the infamous fredi is known to Jed, why has he not started legal proceedings against them for libel which has happened (allegedly) on numerous?

(I actually doubt you know the reason but was curious really)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:29:14
By the way, for anybody that may still be in doubt as I was, it was confirmed to me earlier that Steve's account is genuine.

Hi Steve  :bye:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:32:31
I am speaking with Sam this afternoon.

Fair play. Happy to stand corrected.


Title: Re:
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:34:40
Playing this out in public really is quite amateurish. Perhaps the audit is part of the exit strategy. It can be presented to a buyer ahead of DD, obviously without reliance placed on it by the buyer, to accelerate the process. It's a 'cards up' tactic.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:34:59
Steve...I have heard that the infamous fredi is known to Jed, why has he not started legal proceedings against them for libel which has happened (allegedly) on numerous?
TBF to McCrory, even if you can prove libel, it's prohibitively expensive to be involved in either bringing or defending an action. Which is why the libel laws in this country are badly broken as it's beyond the means of most to fight on a level playing field, unless you're very wealthy. And that's one of the reasons Jed's run into the problems  he has, that he isn't, and so has had to seek support from various backers/partners of varying degrees of shadiness/shadowiness


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:35:47
Thats a fair point Paul.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:37:14
Playing this out in public really is quite amateurish. Perhaps the audit is part of the exit strategy. It can be presented to a buyer ahead of DD, obviously without reliance placed on it by the buyer, to accelerate the process. It's a 'cards up' tactic.
No perhaps about it, I'd have thought, hasn't that always been their game - buy cheap, sell up quick, turn a healthy profit? And nothing wrong in that, btw,it's when it comes unstuck and you're left holding a position you can't fund it becomes a bit more of a hot potato. Which is why we are where we are now, isn't it?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:39:06
TBF to McCrory, even if you can prove libel, it's prohibitively expensive to be involved in either bringing or defending an action. Which is why the libel laws in this country are badly broken as it's beyond the means of most to fight on a level playing field, unless you're very wealthy. And that's one of the reasons Jed's run into the problems  he has, that he isn't, and so has had to seek support from various backers/partners of varying degrees of shadiness/shadowiness

I agree Paul, however if this is the case I don't really get why Jed et all don't just out Fredi - would make their (Fredi) position a little uncomfortable if their real identity was known.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:40:56
No perhaps about it, I'd have thought, hasn't that always been their game - buy cheap, sell up quick, turn a healthy profit? And nothing wrong in that, btw,it's when it comes unstuck and you're left holding a position you can't fund it becomes a bit more of a hot potato. Which is why we are where we are now, isn't it?

I think we are just now viewing some brinksmanship in the public domain....

There must be factions within the day to day mangement of the club for the offending press release to have been sent on Friday, unless Mr Power hacked into the system from is evil hidden lair in the Swiss Alps.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:41:26
I agree Paul, however if this is the case I don't really get why Jed et all don't just out Fredi - would make their (Fredi) position a little uncomfortable if their real identity was known.
True enough. Maybe there is some fire in that smoke?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:43:29
True enough. Maybe there is some fire in that smoke?

I think it is reasonably accepted that the jist of Fredi's comments are normally correct even if they may get expanded a little.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:46:47
I can see Team Jed saying Power taken the chequebook and spreadsheet so they have no idea what's happening with the books. And Power (if he ever says anything) blaming those lot for fishy business before he got involved. If anything, LP has kept his cool and said nothing - meaning he has nothing to take back or back up at this moment. Jed is giving it the hashtag initogether and wontletthisclubdown, and SM is about to go on record, with quite what I don't know. I'm sure there are a few twists and turns that even Fredi doesn't know about. It may even just be a big misunderstanding.  :D


Title: Re: Re: Re:
Post by: otanswell on Monday, December 2, 2013, 14:04:47
Playing this out in public really is quite amateurish. Perhaps the audit is part of the exit strategy. It can be presented to a buyer ahead of DD, obviously without reliance placed on it by the buyer, to accelerate the process. It's a 'cards up' tactic.

This.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, December 2, 2013, 14:10:12
Its a cards up tactic to a point. What it doesn't cover is what has happenned under Jed's stewardship so plenty of time for a position to change. To the Jed fans, the position would be better as in reduced wage bill etc. To the Jed haters, then for the worst as outlined in Fredis missive.
If I was in a position to buy the first thing I'd do is go through the books with a fine toothcomb regardless of the audit.
I tihnk its hold on to your ( orange ) hats time. The next few days promise to be quite interesting one way or the other but probably in a completely cringeworthy way that i'm sure haters of STFC will delight in.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fuzzy on Monday, December 2, 2013, 14:30:46
This is all a cunning revenue raising ploy. Jed and Power have realised how many pages of internet bollocks get generated whenever a sniff of something comes up relating to the club business. As a result, they have floated a rumoour about a boardroom spat. Lo and behold- shitlods of pages of internet bollocks. They have secretely invested in internet advertising and every page that is read containing their adverts raises millions of pounds for STFC.

Get writing your bollocks folks.

I am sure there is somewhere in the region of 80%- 100% bollocks in this speculation.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Empathy Sloth on Monday, December 2, 2013, 17:05:53
Time to get the orange hats back out........
Every time I think of chucking it away I realise that it will probably be needed again some day.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, December 2, 2013, 18:18:53
Seeing that you are online SAM has anyone from either side contacted you today ?

Heard from someone today that Barnes have not been paid either I think there are lots of rumours doing the rounds and the longer the club go on without making a statement the more they are going to get fueled.  The worst thing is there is no football this weekend to take peoples minds off of it so it is going to get worst especially on thisis.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: godders39 on Monday, December 2, 2013, 18:30:40
Seeing that you are online SAM has anyone from either side contacted you today ?

Heard from someone today that Barnes have not been paid either I think there are lots of rumours doing the rounds and the longer the club go on without making a statement the more they are going to get fueled.  The worst thing is there is no football this weekend to take peoples minds off of it so it is going to get worst especially on thisis.

No ones getting paid....even the staff are getting anxious...the ones that are still left that is...it's yet another shambles...!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, December 2, 2013, 18:36:17
Seeing that you are online SAM has anyone from either side contacted you today ?
Tomorrow's exclusive I expect, and who can blame him, no point putting stuff on here when it can be used to flog papers.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, December 2, 2013, 18:49:33
Tomorrow's exclusive I expect, and who can blame him, no point putting stuff on here when it can be used to flog papers.

It's been a long time since the Adver had something which hasn't been known about on here, in some cases, for days. Unless of course you're feeding Morshead rather than sharing with the TEF.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, December 2, 2013, 20:39:17
Every time I think of chucking it away I realise that it will probably be needed again some day.

I think I will be chucking my season ticket away and never returning if it ever gets to that stage.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Only Me on Monday, December 2, 2013, 21:48:22
I think I will be chucking my season ticket away and never returning if it ever gets to that stage.
:-\


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Sam Morshead on Monday, December 2, 2013, 22:14:13
Seeing that you are online SAM has anyone from either side contacted you today ?

Heard from someone today that Barnes have not been paid either I think there are lots of rumours doing the rounds and the longer the club go on without making a statement the more they are going to get fueled.  The worst thing is there is no football this weekend to take peoples minds off of it so it is going to get worst especially on thisis.

Yes. Both


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: NZrobin on Monday, December 2, 2013, 22:27:12
Sam....I am looking forward as always to reading your take on this current situation..

Every time there seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel..situations happen and it all seems to turn out for the worst.

Has the County Ground has been cursed by some mad druid in a previous time ???

COYMR's   :suicide:

     



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: donkey on Monday, December 2, 2013, 22:33:14
The light at the end of the tunnel is always an oncoming train when it comes to STFC.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Berniman on Monday, December 2, 2013, 23:19:57
Brace yourself people, we are heading into some turbulence....


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, December 2, 2013, 23:28:10
If the place falls into a sinkhole because of a gypsy curse I'm going to remind everyone I called it a while back.

Just sayin'


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 00:44:22
If the place falls into a sinkhole because of a gypsy curse I'm going to remind everyone I called it a while back.

Just sayin'

I didn't know you were related to Chang..


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 06:34:31
Well, that article is less than ideal


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 06:39:23
why?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 06:45:07
Not the content I was expecting, nothing really earth shatteringly bad imo. Maybe it was watered down at the last minute?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: brocklesby red on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 07:01:29
Confused as to why Steve mentioned a figure of £800,000 to cover running costs which became £500,000 in the advers article. Some people on thisis saying that the players hav'nt been paid but surely if that was the case,we would'nt have been allowed to sign Ben Gladwin.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 07:40:48
Its clear there is a struggle going on, maybe Jed changed his mind about moving aside. The bills I can understand as it would be like me and someone else paying the gas whilst bidding for a house we haven't bought, putting in money that might be wasted. Needs to resolved asap though as will only hurt us if it rumbles on. Lets hope the board meeting goes ahead and everything is thrashed out and we can get back to not being a constant car crash waiting to happen.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 07:46:43
Not the content I was expecting, nothing really earth shatteringly bad imo. Maybe it was watered down at the last minute?

Guess he just wanted it on record that the claimed £2.2M invested is more like 500/800k.

Suppose there is not much to gain for either party by laying all the issues on record while there is still a chance of being able to negotiate.

Shame Murrall wasn't slightly more descriptive about who put pressure on him to leave. Presumably at that point it was Power and Jed in agreement? Or Jed was being lent on.

What worries me is that if Jed has no funding to go it on his own, the debts most certainly will mount up to our suppliers and all the good the previous regime did in that area will be ruined. As you say, why would Power chuck more money in as things stand.

Its clear there is a struggle going on, maybe Jed changed his mind about moving aside

I'd be a lot happier if he said it was due to personal/financial structure of the exit strategy and not about future direction of STFC.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 07:51:26
Not that much vastly interesting other than Steve can legally turn up at the next board meeting. The bills thing is interesting, however, as on one hand we all probably wait for reminders. On the other hand Jed keeps talking about this being a community club and not paying the locals given the current economic conditions is not going to go down well.
It also doesn't say where Jed got the money to repay the £1.2m. Who else is lurking?


Title: Re:
Post by: otanswell on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 07:57:00
Well there we have it.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 08:06:07
Well there we have it.

Some of it :)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 08:08:24
It also doesn't say where Jed got the money to repay the £1.2m. Who else is lurking?

Perhaps he just gave the same 1.2 straight back. They needed it to satisfy the football league and get themselves out of embargo, perhaps that's why it was a short term loan, put it in the account, show the FL, pay it straight back.


Title: Re:
Post by: otanswell on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 08:10:34
That's false accounting though isn't it?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 08:12:00
So basically that was a prolonged whinge about how badly he feels he was treated (which he may have been) and

1) Power hasn't put in as much as he's claimed to. Well, that's always the case in football, as somone else pointed out the other day that's why they all use phrases such as "has made available to", "facilitated the injection of" blah blah. From what I understand that £1.2m was solely required to be deposited in an escrow account for a few weeks so the FL could see it was there as proof of funds. So no-one invested it in the club, not Power, not Jed

2) Unspecified bad things have been going wrong for some time, but he didn't see fit to mention it until now because he was worried about Jed's health. Which is very touching, but perhaps not a great way to run a business. Or maybe the unspecified bad things are, actually, quite trivial and this is just a bit of spreading FUD

3) Unspecified bad things have definitely gone wrong since he left, but he's not in a position to say what they are, because he's not there any more. But they are definitely bad and run the risk of undermining all the great work he did while he was there. So when it all goes to shit, it definitely won't be his fault, it'll be those bad things that have been done in the last 6 weeks. Not the bad things he didn't get round to mentioning.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 08:14:14
That's false accounting though isn't it?
If it was on the club's books, maybe (Si Pi will know) but this is proof of funds. I believe it doesn't need to go into the club's account, just into a bank account the FL can look at and verify the funds are there. It's one of many ways in which the football authorities' regulatory tests are laughably full of holes.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 08:16:15
Perhaps he just gave the same 1.2 straight back. They needed it to satisfy the football league and get themselves out of embargo, perhaps that's why it was a short term loan, put it in the account, show the FL, pay it straight back.
That sounds very feasible, 1.2 was the figure mentioned all along, obviously Jed did not possess 1.2, so to satisfy the powers that be he was loaned it, yes, I buy into that one. Interestingly that Steve is now claiming he was leant on to leave, when we made redundancies we were told that all had been voluntary plus one other - whom I believe to be Fredi!  Must be something of a poisoned chalice in the corridors of STFC.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 08:24:01
I think he already hinted/said he was leant on to leave in these very forums.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 08:32:05
If it was on the club's books, maybe (Si Pi will know) but this is proof of funds. I believe it doesn't need to go into the club's account, just into a bank account the FL can look at and verify the funds are there. It's one of many ways in which the football authorities' regulatory tests are laughably full of holes.

Indeed, I'm not an expert but I suspect it was simply a case of this. We wanted to sign players , the FL, concerned we couldn't afford it demanded to see 'proof of funds'. That wouldn't be a set of formal accounts, they'd only just taken over after all, they'd merely have to prove the 1.2 million existed at that point.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: otanswell on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 08:55:34
If it was on the club's books, maybe (Si Pi will know) but this is proof of funds. I believe it doesn't need to go into the club's account, just into a bank account the FL can look at and verify the funds are there. It's one of many ways in which the football authorities' regulatory tests are laughably full of holes.

So in theory I could show the football league little johnny lends me 2 million I show them my bank statement with it in and I can run a football club?

On that shit soapy tit wank


Title: Re:
Post by: otanswell on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 08:56:06
Anyone want to put in with me?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fergz85 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 08:59:08
I know at least one person who is owed 4 months in un paid wages, apparently they are seeking legal advice from the LMA in regards to this.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:06:43
I know at least one person who is owed 4 months in un paid wages, apparently they are seeking legal advice from the LMA in regards to this.

LMA?

So would that be KMac?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:14:12
LMA?

So would that be KMac?
Don't the LMA also represent coaching staff as well?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fergz85 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:15:39
LMA?

So would that be KMac?

Nope not K Mac, he was football staff who has now left (because power stopped paying him). He's appears on the who's who on the club website.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:20:23
Nope not K Mac, he was football staff who has now left (because power stopped paying him). He's appears on the who's who on the club website.
Ah I assume that's this video analyst we keep hearing about that's (supposedly) not been paid then? I'd assumed that was a hangover from the Wray/Di Canio era coming back for a claim of unpaid wages, perhaps more recent then. And hence this cropping up the other day:
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/academyanalystvacany-1156949.aspx


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:23:15
Ah I assume that's this video analyst we keep hearing about that's (supposedly) not been paid then? I'd assumed that was a hangover from the Wray/Di Canio era coming back for a claim of unpaid wages, perhaps more recent then. And hence this cropping up the other day:
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/academyanalystvacany-1156949.aspx

That looks like a different role - academy / voluntary.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fergz85 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:23:52
Ah I assume that's this video analyst we keep hearing about that's (supposedly) not been paid then? I'd assumed that was a hangover from the Wray/Di Canio era coming back for a claim of unpaid wages, perhaps more recent then. And hence this cropping up the other day:
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/academyanalystvacany-1156949.aspx

There's no supposedly mate, I can guarantee that Power has refused to pay him since July.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:25:30
There's no supposedly mate, I can guarantee that Power has refused to pay him since July.
just say who it is then.cunt


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:26:41
That looks like a different role - academy / voluntary.
Well, if as claimed the "main" role is unpaid, then that's pretty much voluntary isn't it?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:27:41
just say who it is then.cunt
The Video Analyst on the Who's Who on the club website is listed as Ron Terry. Assume that's who he means.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:34:31
The Video Analyst on the Who's Who on the club website is listed as Ron Terry. Assume that's who he means.

Bit of digging shows at the club from 08... So Malpas / Wilson?   


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:37:00
The Video Analyst on the Who's Who on the club website is listed as Ron Terry. Assume that's who he means.

yup


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:48:29
So Cooper's having to manage without a video analyst then I assume? Which is actually considered quite important these days. And while I'm sure the jumpers for goalposts crew can all start in with how [Succesful manager from very long time ago] managed perfectly well without such frippery, the point is that if everyone else can do detailed post-match analysis and Cooper's having to make do with recording the Football League Show and freeze-framing it for the team meeting, that's putting us at a disadvantage compared to our rivals. So this is an area where the cost-cutting isn't "just" backroom stuff going wrong, it has a potential impact on the pitch too.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: random_five on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:51:20
So Cooper's having to manage without a video analyst then I assume? Which is actually considered quite important these days. And while I'm sure the jumpers for goalposts crew can all start in with how [Succesful manager from very long time ago] managed perfectly well without such frippery, the point is that if everyone else can do detailed post-match analysis and Cooper's having to make do with recording the Football League Show and freeze-framing it for the team meeting, that's putting us at a disadvantage compared to our rivals. So this is an area where the cost-cutting isn't "just" backroom stuff going wrong, it has a potential impact on the pitch too.

That said, Steve Claridge's post match comments could prove invaluable..


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:51:29
So Cooper's having to manage without a video analyst then I assume? Which is actually considered quite important these days. And while I'm sure the jumpers for goalposts crew can all start in with how [Succesful manager from very long time ago] managed perfectly well without such frippery, the point is that if everyone else can do detailed post-match analysis and Cooper's having to make do with recording the Football League Show and freeze-framing it for the team meeting, that's putting us at a disadvantage compared to our rivals. So this is an area where the cost-cutting isn't "just" backroom stuff going wrong, it has a potential impact on the pitch too.

And it's a fair guess this chap was pretty good at his job as well if Paolo didn't feel the need to have him replaced with a highly paid Italian.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:52:09
So Cooper's having to manage without a video analyst then I assume? Which is actually considered quite important these days. And while I'm sure the jumpers for goalposts crew can all start in with how [Succesful manager from very long time ago] managed perfectly well without such frippery, the point is that if everyone else can do detailed post-match analysis and Cooper's having to make do with recording the Football League Show and freeze-framing it for the team meeting, that's putting us at a disadvantage compared to our rivals. So this is an area where the cost-cutting isn't "just" backroom stuff going wrong, it has a potential impact on the pitch too.
We're not the only club in the country asking for volunteers to do this role as unpaid internships or such:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/reading-fc-advertises-job-experienced-1827948
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/apr/12/football-clubs-accused-exploiting-unpaid-interns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/9991594/Premier-League-clubs-to-be-reported-to-HMRC-after-advertising-for-unpaid-internships.html


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 09:55:30
We're not the only club in the country asking for volunteers to do this role as unpaid internships or such:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/reading-fc-advertises-job-experienced-1827948
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/apr/12/football-clubs-accused-exploiting-unpaid-interns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/9991594/Premier-League-clubs-to-be-reported-to-HMRC-after-advertising-for-unpaid-internships.html
There's a difference though between giving the job to an unpaid intern and forcing out/refusing to pay someone who's already employed, as is alleged here.

And even if that wasn't the case, the idea that we're only behaving as badly as the rest of football doesn't give me much comfort


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:02:38
Entirely agree but I was responding to the point you made about being left behind because we're no longer paying a video analyst.

It's a shameful affair that people think it's fine to exploit the job market this way.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: WR5 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:03:34

statement time again 
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/clubstatementl-1204150.aspx 


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:04:12
Lee Power confirmed as the new owner.

Adver: Town release Statement regarding Club Ownership (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/10850921.Town_release_statement_regarding_club_ownership/?ref=var_0)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:06:24
statement time again  
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/clubstatementl-1204150.aspx  

They've removed the references to how much cash was invested this time then.

Is that Jed moseying off into the sunset (if not now, soonish)?

hmmmmm. fingers crossed time that Power is somehow in it for the club (if even to be able to turn it around for profit).


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:07:14
They put this

"Since the takeover Mr Power has injected £1.2m for a limited period of time to release the embargo enforced by the Football League at the time of takeover.

I could be wrong but was the 'limited period' not mentioned last time ?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:08:18
Sam says :

Quote
Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 1m

The stated "injected £1.2mil to release the embargo" changed to "injected £1.2m for a limited period of time to release the embargo"

but is it that important , in the grand scheme of things now the share transfer has gone through. If so, why?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:08:34
Well at least there is a definate finger back in the dyke now.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:08:35
Hmm, I suppose this puts an end to the uncertainty surrounding the immediate future at least... I need to find some straws to clutch at.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:16:37
Sam says :

but is it that important , in the grand scheme of things now the share transfer has gone through. If so, why?


I would say it probably has something to do with the gas bill analogy I mentioned. If he was not confirmed owner why bung in 1.2 million that might never come back.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:19:13
And it's a fair guess this chap was pretty good at his job as well if Paolo didn't feel the need to have him replaced with a highly paid Italian.

The only non-italian on the football staff. Rumour has it could have gone to Sunderland but refused as a Swindon lad. At least the ownership issue is sorted though!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:20:12
Hmm, I suppose this puts an end to the uncertainty surrounding the immediate future at least... I need to find some straws to clutch at.

Power needs to appoint a chief exec... Fast...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:20:41
Still got a lot to do at STFC #properclub Fans have been great & won't let them down #COTT hope we both go up 👍

So how does all this tally with Jed's tweets about all work he's still got to do , nothing has changed etc etc?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:32:06
It would be good to hear from Power, what his plans are etc.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: jimmy_onions on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:40:55
^ yep, and at the same time it would be good if Jed shut the fuck up. I cant be the only one who finds his constant buddy patter cringeworthy
#inittogether
#wontletyoudown
#greatclubgreatfans
#Iloveyouall
#prideandpassion
#someotherfuckingcliche etc etc


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:41:06
Agreed.  Now that he has been confirmed as owner, it's time to come out of the shadows.  He'll have a fairly short window of opportunity to do so (or to appoint a Chief Exec to speak for him) before folk become suspicious.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: random_five on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:42:49
^ yep, and at the same time it would be good if Jed shut the fuck up. I cant be the only one who finds his constant buddy patter cringeworthy
#inittogether
#wontletyoudown
#greatclubgreatfans
#Iloveyouall
#prideandpassion
#someotherfuckingcliche etc etc

#properclub is my personal fave


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: NZrobin on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:46:48
Well.....Now wait for Murrell to sue the club for unfair / constructive dismissal    :(

Just hope Power is in it for the long term

Though I doubt it   :suicide:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:47:51
It would be good to hear from Power, what his plans are etc.

Absolutely, this was one of the main faults of Jed & Co at the start, took them too long to formally (not twitter) address the fans.

Cant say Power fills me with huge confidence but glad this little ownership period of uncertainty is over.  



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:49:19
Chancer after chancer wanting to play at running a football club. It fucking stinks and always has done


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: NZrobin on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:54:07
Why oh why does all this crap seem to happen at Swindon

As stated previously....voodoo / black magic or a curse from a fucked up Druid  :(


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: animalwilliams on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:56:15
Well.....Now wait for Murrell to sue the club for unfair / constructive dismissal    :(

Just hope Power is in it for the long term

Though I doubt it   :suicide:
You have to be employed by a company for at least 12 months before you can claim unfair dismissal, may be even 24 months now.

Hope this period is now behind us and we can concentrate on the football.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: otanswell on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:56:23
Chancer after chancer wanting to play at running a football club. It fucking stinks and always has done

I feel the same tbh


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:58:00
Well that seems to have been 'resolved' quicker than I imagined this week, and I use the term 'resolved' loosely. I was expecting this to drag on for weeks, especially when Jed said he was taking legal advice before postponing the board meeting Saturday - why the change of heart, or is this statement premature and will be taken down later on today? The uncertainty feeling I have still remains, would be nice if Power came out and spoke - so many questions need answering, which I'm not sure we'll get.

Oh to be a Swindon fan!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 10:59:29
This has probably been the way of things for decades.

It's just now, with the advent of t'internet, that these things get unravelled.

We aren't the only club to have a succession of dodgy owners - it's almost par for the course re football clubs


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:01:16
Chancer after chancer wanting to play at running a football club. It fucking stinks and always has done
Well said.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:03:45

I would say it probably has something to do with the gas bill analogy I mentioned. If he was not confirmed owner why bung in 1.2 million that might never come back.

Sorry, I meant why bother putting "the facts" straight that the 1.2 was short term. It doesn't really matter now does it, he has a controlling interest.

Or put another way, what were the issue(s) in the first place. It can't have been over whether £1.2M was a short term loan that was claimed to be an investment? Unless publicly acknowledging Power got his money back relieves Jed of some disputed claimed financial burden.

So why has Jed relented?  Legal advice or had enough or kissed and made up?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: derbystfc on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:05:20
Whats the next twist in the story of STFC, couldnt write this shit if you tried!

Where is Mr Wilks with his Orange Hats? Ive lost mine


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:10:05
Where is Mr Wilks with his Orange Hats? Ive lost mine

I've just been upstairs to check on mine.  It's still there.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: iffy on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:11:31


So why has Jed relented?  Legal advice or had enough or kissed and made up?

Because you can't bullshit the law?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:13:30
Because you can't bullshit the law?
Surely a couple of witty hashtags on the submission papers would have been enough to charm even the stoniest of judicial hearts? #loveyourwig #legalroar


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:15:56
Whats the next twist in the story of STFC, couldnt write this shit if you tried!

Where is Mr Wilks with his Orange Hats? Ive lost mine

Presumably the name of the real Swiss cat stroker, who's the money behind Power. Hill or Cousins?

We might have to come up with something besides orange, as the Ukrainians seem to be keen on using it again atm.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:17:41
It will also be interesting to see if Power is 60% owner or 100% owner as it may well be that Jed retains a 35% holding. It could also be one of the shortest directorships of STFC if Shah is sent packing as she was only recently appointed.
I'm sure there will be a ton of stuff still to come out but at least we have a bit of clarity.



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:17:55
We might have to come up with something besides orange, as the Ukrainians seem to be keen on using it again atm.
Nah they're using blue and yellow (Ukrainian and EU colours) so we could all just start showing up in last season's away kit. Although that might just look like we were mounting a protest against this season's away kit.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:19:53
It will also be interesting to see if Power is 60% owner or 100% owner as it may well be that Jed retains a 35% holding. It could also be one of the shortest directorships of STFC if Shah is sent packing as she was only recently appointed.
I'm sure there will be a ton of stuff still to come out but at least we have a bit of clarity.
Don't think we do. More questions than answers IMO. You're right about where does this leave McCrory and Reg is right, who's the backer is, as always, the key question. We just seem to have a series of puppets behind puppets.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: iffy on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:21:40
It will also be interesting to see if Power is 60% owner or 100% owner as it may well be that Jed retains a 35% holding. It could also be one of the shortest directorships of STFC if Shah is sent packing as she was only recently appointed.
I'm sure there will be a ton of stuff still to come out but at least we have a bit of clarity.

35% of a loss-making company you don't hold the chequebooks for is worth precisely fuck all.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:22:05
Nah they're using blue and yellow (Ukrainian and EU colours) so we could all just start showing up in last season's away kit. Although that might just look like we were mounting a protest against this season's away kit.

Bit feeble to use Scum colours to counter the red army....we'd best stick to orange then....Chalkie's Shorts would go on hunger strike if it was yellow and blue.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:23:42
Bit feeble to use Scum colours to counter the red army....we'd best stick to orange then....Chalkie's Shorts would go on hunger strike if it was yellow and blue.
It's blue and yellow, that's completely different. As everyone told us when we picked those colours for the away kit.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: derbystfc on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:26:16
Don't think we do. More questions than answers IMO. You're right about where does this leave McCrory and Reg is right, who's the backer is, as always, the key question. We just seem to have a series of puppets behind puppets.

Illuminati Theory, mmmm!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:30:45
It's blue and yellow, that's completely different. As everyone told us when we picked those colours for the away kit.

One of the alleged features of our new owners is an apparent desire for some serious Cardiff/Hull style rebranding, so maybe blue and yellow will become our home kit.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: london_red on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:33:19
One of the alleged features of our new owners is an apparent desire for some serious Cardiff/Hull style rebranding,

Where did that come from?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:34:37
One of the alleged features of our new owners is an apparent desire for some serious Cardiff/Hull style rebranding, so maybe blue and yellow will become our home kit.
Nah, crimson cloak and woollen tunic.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: corner on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:35:03
This has to be agood thing, #onlyoneleepower


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:35:27
One of the alleged features of our new owners is an apparent desire for some serious Cardiff/Hull style rebranding, so maybe blue and yellow will become our home kit.

Alleged where?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:43:35
Nah, crimson cloak and woollen tunic.

Preferable to Degas' version of costumes in Young Spartans Exercising. I could accept the birds, but can you imagine what teh TE would be like

(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/21/2131/UULED00Z/posters/edgar-degas-young-spartans-exercising-around-1860-reworked-until-1880.jpg)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:48:08
Half an inch and a wrinkle by the look of it

Just right for the TEF


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:49:18
Bit feeble to use Scum colours to counter the red army....we'd best stick to orange then....Chalkie's Shorts would go on hunger strike if it was yellow and blue.
Given my bulk it would be a long strike...although a hunger strike for me would normally consist of 3 hours without lard.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:49:34
Alleged where?

A little bird in the DRS  ;)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:53:04
Alleged where?

This very site.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:55:09
This very site.
Must be true then...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:55:56
Must be true then...

But Chang hasn't confirmed it yet..


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:56:36
Given my bulk it would be a long strike...although a hunger strike for me would normally consist of 3 hours without lard.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 11:57:17
But Chang hasn't confirmed it yet..
Good point. I won't believe it until Chang is stood on the pitch with a pink and turquoise scarve over his head. Or something.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:03:40
Must be true then...

Never said it was, just answering the question.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:05:35
Never said it was, just answering the question.
I never said you said it was


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:12:14
I never said you said it was
:)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:23:13
So how long before we get a proper statement - will that be issued when it has been confirmed that Tim Sherwood is taking over first team duties Les Ferdinand will pick the team, AVB will pick the tactics and cooper will stand in the dugout on matchdays unless Spurs have a weekend off


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:24:43
Can't wait for the movie. I hear they are now casting. Ricky Grover as Jed Mccrory. Any other ideas?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:35:55
'Swindon Town are pleased to announce the appointment of Bob Holt as its new Chief Executive following Lee Power's takevover of the club'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1697686.stm


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:39:50
12 years on and fuck all had changed.

Also, who would have thought a few months back that McCrory would come out of this as seen by many as the 'good' guy.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:45:49
Also, who would have thought a few months back that McCrory would come out of this as seen by many as the 'good' guy.
Really? By who? Everyone I've seen thinks he's a plank


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:46:55
Are there any good guys?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:48:12
Yes
By some I've spoken to and seen written


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:48:41
Are there any good guys?
Probably not.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 12:56:56
Yes
By some I've spoken to and seen written

OK, it was the "many" I was surprised by.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 13:15:45
Can't wait for the movie. I hear they are now casting. Ricky Grover as Jed Mccrory. Any other ideas?

James Gandolfini as Power


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 13:16:19
Back from the dead?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: moredonboy on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 13:21:31
As far as I can ascertain Lee Power over the past 10 years has had an extremely predictable capacity for creating companies that quickly go into liquidation. And he resigns as a director beforehand.

Cre8 UK and Cre8 Publishing were both liquidated owing large sums to Arsenal, Celtic and Tottenham fcs as well as some big UK printers. How these ended up I have no idea - but I guess those owed money got little in return. It seems impossible to find out the end result of liquidations - so much for financial transparency. Anyway I wonder what the board of Tottenham think of Mr Power???????????

Power has a link with an offshore outfit called Werdale Assets but again it is so difficult to find out details.
Some of his wealth (if he has real stuff) will lie in that company - and he certainly made a handsome deal if they never paid their debtors.

I am just concerned that he is very much a mover of money in many directions not all good, and that our club
is now firmly in his grasp - very worrying times still - I'm afraid chaps

He may have saved us from the embargo but will he save us from Administration? that for me is the question  ???


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 13:27:59
Anyway I wonder what the board of Tottenham think of Mr Power???????????

Enough to sell him 3 players and loan a further 3...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 13:30:41
Adam Woodyatt as Steven Moses Murral. And featuring Fredi as herself. There would probably be lots of different directors, each involved for a short time before pulling out or given a 'stevie murral'


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 13:34:57
OK, it was the "many" I was surprised by.

If it was 'most' then I would understand your concern.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 13:53:07
I think at some point there should be a love scene in the Arkells toilets between Fredi and STFC fan #4.
Zooey Deschanel should play Fredi and I will play STFC fan #4. It should be an angry love scene to show the anger and passion that is felt about the club.

The twist at the end of the film should be Katy Perry is Fredi’s twin and STFC fan #4 has to have a threesome with them both,  this could show the three way struggle for control between Jed, Power and the fans.



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ticker45 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 14:17:32
Well that seems to have been 'resolved' quicker than I imagined this week, and I use the term 'resolved' loosely. I was expecting this to drag on for weeks, especially when Jed said he was taking legal advice before postponing the board meeting Saturday - why the change of heart, or is this statement premature and will be taken down later on today? The uncertainty feeling I have still remains, would be nice if Power came out and spoke - so many questions need answering, which I'm not sure we'll get.

Oh to be a Swindon fan!

This x 10


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: DA15red on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:28:55
Ferdinand attends many of the games as does Sherwood. On Saturday Sherwood was accompanied by a couple of other assistant manager types. They seemed to be very into the team as a whole to me rather than just watching the Spurs players (although Spurs players and particularly Pritchard did look up to Sherwood more than Cooper at times). Anyway I was wondering how strong and influential you think Spurs are in the current set up and whether this will grow now Powers ownership is public? Not necessarily a bad thing IMO provided no rules are broken.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Notts red on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:40:25
When their fit Spurs will want them to play, my guessing is whether Cooper likes it or not.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:44:27
McCrory has gone (BBC Wilts)


FOOTBALL: BBC Wiltshire understands #stfc chairman Jed McCrory has stepped down from the board and left the club #swindon


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:45:45
Jed goes then. Shock horror. Worried for the future of the club now if im honest.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:47:28
Jed goes then. Shock horror. #Worriedforthefutureoftheclubnow
Fixed it for you


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Gnasher on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:47:38
McCrory has gone (BBC Wilts)


FOOTBALL: BBC Wiltshire understands #stfc chairman Jed McCrory has stepped down from the board and left the club #swindon


Innit together. Not  :bye:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:48:09
Jeds twitter gang will be reaching for the razor blades tonight.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:48:48
But retains 40% according to the Adver #ROOAAARRR


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:49:19
More #squuuuuueeeek now


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:49:22
Good.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:52:10
Quote
Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 1m

It's my understanding McCrory will cite concerns over his own health as part of the grounds of his departure.

Someone called it earlier. Not saying it isn't true, but more of a tactical withdrawl?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:52:57
I shall miss his swaggering around the Legends, flanked by his entourage, acting the billy big bollocks on matchdays.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:53:08
Wonder if he'll sign up to the TEF?? And who will be the first to give him the royal TEF welcome??


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:54:44
Crouch has some serious financial backing.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:55:34
Crouch has some serious financial backing.
His missus, Abi Clancey, is fit as well.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 15:59:54
Someone called it earlier. Not saying it isn't true, but more of a tactical withdrawl?

As in he's concerned Power and his cronies are going to beat the health out of him?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:04:00
McCrory gone.  I assume Sangita will follow?

I am guessing that will leave Power as the only director of STFC? Crouch is a director of the holding company and not the club as yet ... (I may be wrong)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:06:56
 Although it's not Friday for a few days, we are owed a statement, of wtf is going on.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: corner on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:08:12
Although it's not Friday for a few days, we are owed a statement, of wtf is going on.
Yeh first from power, he's the one that matters, not so fused abount billy liar,  :bye:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:08:34
Although it's not Friday for a few days, we are owed a statement, of wtf is going on.
Fear not, young Reg:
Quote
Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 15m
I would expect a formal statement from the club/Jed McCrory later this afternoon #stfc
Although tbh I'd expect an illiterate tweet rather than a formal statement


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Mplanney on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:12:25
McCrory gone.  I assume Sangita will follow?

I am guessing that will leave Power as the only director of STFC? Crouch is a director of the holding company and not the club as yet ... (I may be wrong)

So only one director and he's not supposed to be in the country much.  I take it someone else will have to be appointed to run the club day to day


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: corner on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:14:10
@SamMorshead_SA: Sangita Shah is not expected to leave her position as director of Swindon Town until the publication of the recently-completed audit #stfc


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:16:04
Where's Chang?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:16:22
His missus, Abi Clancey, is fit as well.
Decent dancer too.

Apparently.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:28:18
Where's Chang?  :sherlock:

In a meeting with Power discussing taking over as Chief Exec?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:29:05
Now would be the time for Power to speak publicly and announce his plans for the future of the club.

I won't hold my breath though.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:29:19
Where's Chang?  :sherlock:

Feeding Morshead information...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: corner on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:31:44
Power statement on stfc site now, sounds good let's hop things improve. Roll on the prem......


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:32:47
The man speaks!

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/statementleepower-1213356.aspx


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:33:39
Quote
For example: there was £500,000 of estimated income in the accounts for the summer concerts which, to date, has cost the football club circa £50,000.
Read more at http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/statementleepower-1213356.aspx#8KgigqzprDTeruU2.99
:eek:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: london_red on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:35:30
Now would be the time for Power to speak publicly and announce his plans for the future of the club.

I won't hold my breath though.

You can breathe...

Obviously trying to get the fans onside, but talk is cheap. Let's hope people's worst fears are misplaced and after this ugly few days the club can actually get on with the job of moving forward we looked like we were doing a fairly good job of up until a week ago.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:36:48
Whoever wrote the Power statement deserves a fucking medal!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:38:20
Can we stop with the crap now, and give the guy a chance perhaps. Talk may be cheap, but at least everything that can be put out is out there now.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:39:02
As someone said earlier, white text on a black background is horrible to read.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: corner on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:41:25
@BBCWiltshire: FOOTBALL: Hear from new #stfc owner and chairman Lee Power after five on @BBCWiltshire


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:43:41
Whoever wrote the Power statement deserves a fucking medal!

Whoever wrote the McCrory one deserves fucking shooting!

To compare the two statements and their style makes interesting reading...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:44:53
Now to appoint a Chief exec that can run the club on a day to day basis and has the power to make decisions required


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:47:04
There is a Power Statement and a Jed statement on the official website.

The Power statement appears very professional and Jed's is the complete opposite -

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/statementjedmcrory-1213362.aspx


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: derbystfc on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:48:39
What will be interesting is who power will appoint to the board, their background, acheivements (if any), business past etc.



Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:50:48
Fair enough statement from Power. I quite like the dig at Jed's twittering

Time will tell what is really in store. Not exactly less worried on that but the not knowing helps.. for now


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:52:28
As someone said earlier, white text on a black background is horrible to read.

It was me. My eyes are bleeding.

Anyway, nice to see Lee read my post and responded accordingly. Cheers, Lee!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: iffy on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:52:32
"devoted to taking the Club from relative obscurity to respectability."

What the actual fuck?

Bankruptcy perhaps, but obscurity.

I thought Power's statement was reasonably sensible. Could have saved himself a lot of grief by putting that out a few months ago.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:55:59
Haha. Just read Jed's  statement. Fuck me he hasn't got any self esteem problems has he. Reads like we were plucky non league cannon fodder that he turned around for the good of the town. What bollocks.

That's not to say he hasn't worked hard or done good things. But talk about sucking yourself off!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: derbystfc on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:57:03
Jed in self felacio shocker!



Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:58:17
Ignorance is bliss. Obviously, as with any business, there are shady characters and people far more intelligent that your average bloke.

Right now, I'm just going to take Power's statement at face value rather than believe all the unsubstantiated shit elsewhere.

Ignorant? Probably.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 16:59:06
No tweeting and no forums  :(


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:02:09
I'll miss Jed, never a dull moment with him around for sure.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:03:51
I'll miss Jed.

I won't.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:04:52
Does Power wear a tie?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:04:53
Can we stop with the crap now, and give the guy a chance perhaps. Talk may be cheap, but at least everything that can be put out is out there now.
This.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:09:21
On BBC Wilts now.

Last time I listened to BBC Wilts in the library we lost to Poxford, hopefully this time it's a bit nicer!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: OrangeTransits on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:09:46
Maybe i'm not getting this, but from the Power Statement it seems Jed put £1 or 50p in borrowed some of Powers Money for a few days then gave it back to keep FL happy. Now Power has paid Jed £300,000 to buy his stock. That's not a bad return on a 50p /  £1 investment for 7 months on the piss watching footy.....


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:12:18
Fans phone in on Monday with power.. Bbc rs


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:12:39
Phone in with Power on BBC Wilts on Monday.

6pm.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:12:55
Whats his cheese choice?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:13:11
Whats his cheese choice?
Swiss obviously.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:14:16
Maybe i'm not getting this, but from the Power Statement it seems Jed put £1 or 50p in borrowed some of Powers Money for a few days then gave it back to keep FL happy. Now Power has paid Jed £300,000 to buy his stock. That's not a bad return on a 50p /  £1 investment for 7 months on the piss watching footy.....
I don't think he's bought Jed's stock - he bought the stock of the previous shareholders that subsequently dropped out after the takeover. Jed still has a 40% stake I believe.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:14:27
There is a Power Statement and a Jed statement on the official website.

The Power statement appears very professional and Jed's is the complete opposite -

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/statementjedmcrory-1213362.aspx

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Haha that statement has made my day


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:22:02
Now to appoint a Chief exec that can run the club on a day to day basis and has the power to make decisions required

What is Nick Watkins doing?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:23:04
Happy to give the bloke a chance tbh, although aiming for premiership?  :clap:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:24:43
Jed's statement is brilliant. I thought the guy was a tool but some of the abuse was unwarranted. He did put some serious hours in and in an informal way at least, he did engage with the fans (some too much!).

At least we may get some form of professionalism with Power anyway.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:27:24
Happy to give the bloke a chance tbh, although aiming for premiership?  :clap:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Nothing wrong with ambition.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:35:18
Whilst I am grateful that Jed saved the club from administration, I can’t help but think we would of ended up there anyway under him.

Hopefully Power can steady the ship and we can finish the season without financial worries and push for a play off place.

The January transfer window will be the first acid test of Powers reign.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:36:10
So we all love Power now then. 1 statement, written by someone else, and he's back in the good books. Better than Jed though and his Ill health excuse. Do they think they are the only ones that do 14 hour days? Most of his time was spent giving it the big potatoes in the pub and tweeting nonsense.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:37:35
Didn't mind Jed but in one statement Power has already surpassed Jed in the professionalism stakes, Jed's is so cringeworthy.

At least Power has the sense to stay off social media, again that degree of professionalism that Jed lacked.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:37:54
what is all this bollocks about Jed improving the community side of things and taking us from obscurity to respectability? Has Jed got to know you like he apparently has "most" of the fans? Lee has got him spot on. So its bye bye Billy Liar and lets hope Five years on Lee is still here whilst Jed's 5 minutes will be long forgotten. Certainly didn't hear much from either Jed or Steve after the concerts cock up about any more ever happening that Lee rubs in with relish.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: manc_red on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:39:14
Well thank fuck that's sorted then (for now at least). Very glad to see the back of Jed and his shoddy band of potless wasters personally and to be honest I'm surprised they've lasted as long as they have.

As Power rightly said in his statement, trust has to be earned. But he fully deserves the benefit of the doubt imo, not least because he appears to have what the last lot plainly never had - actual funds.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:40:22
What is Nick Watkins doing?
Owed Money like many others.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: corner on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:49:28
Hi Sam,  :bye: :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 17:54:33
Looking forward to seeing how we get on under Power, looks a right shady fucker but his statement was fairly impressive and he deserves a chance.

Whether he has the funds and contacts to take us above League 1 level I have my doubts but I look forward to finding out.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:00:30
Looking forward to seeing how we get on under Power, looks a right shady fucker but his statement was fairly impressive and he deserves a chance.

Whether he has the funds and contacts to take us above League 1 level I have my doubts but I look forward to finding out.
That's me 100% sold on him...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:05:57
.. and taking us from obscurity to respectability?

That was my favourite bit. In fact IMHO we'd just come out of our most high profile period for some time, its not like PDC flew under the radar.

Power, Jed, who knows which would have been best.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:12:33
I'd have been happier had he stated Champions League was our aim. Jed got to meet Jose so he's over achieved already.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:34:38
I saw it mentioned on Twitter, but how feasable would it be for the trust to buy Jed's stake?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:36:47
Perfectly feasible if

A) Jed is willing to sell to them

And

B) At a reasonable price

Suspect both could be sticking points


Title: Re: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:38:46
I saw it mentioned on Twitter, but how feasable would it be for the trust to buy Jed's stake?
Probably completely unfeasible. Jed, for all his man of the people act will probably hold out for an offer from Power. Don't think he'd accept what the trust could afford.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:39:46
With the very little backing that they have, I hope the Trust go no where near those shares if I am completely honest.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:41:53
They've probably got more cash than Jed. And having a fan rep on the board could only be a good thing surely?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:46:08
It depends how much he would want for the shares..


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Notts red on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:48:06
Whilst I am grateful that Jed saved the club from administration, I can’t help but think we would of ended up there anyway under him.

Hopefully Power can steady the ship and we can finish the season without financial worries and push for a play off place.

The January transfer window will be the first acid test of Powers reign.
It's interesting him saying £400,000 will be invested in the coming months after hearing from several people thats what the Wes going to Bournemouth in Jan deal is worth.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:50:32
Biggest mistake they both made was not keeping Paolo at least till the seasons end...no doubt in my mind that they would have hit the jackpot financially with a move up a league.
I believe that the Italian would have got us auto promotion.

So now we move on again.....have big doubts about the man in charge but would love him to prove himself a big success.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 18:51:10
It depends how much he would want for the shares..

He got them for a pound and put nothing in. So why cant he sell them for a pound? Its not beyond possibility if he really is a football and fans man. 40% for the Trust would be good. The supporters would then have a decent say in the running of the club.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 19:02:14
Well everyone on twitter put it to him, if you don't ask you don't get.


Title: Re:
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 19:04:26
Just caught up with the day's play. Positive from Power and I'm all for communication without overload (and without twitter).

I think McCrory has done what he came in to do. Babysit until somebody could come in for the long term.  Based on his statement though, you would think he had single handedly dragged us up from nowhere. Nothing like writing your own history. I don't think anybody else will see it like that. Working hard doesn't necessarily mean working well. I suspect he will end up making a profit for stepping up when nobody else did. Dell boy does League One. For that he deserves some credit, but that's the end of it.

I completely understand the apprehension around Power's business history, but let's remember that we don't know the detail. So the business failed with outstanding creditors. That of itself doesn't equate to dishonesty, or mismanagement. It could simply be a case of a business sector that couldn't work and that couldn't pay up. That doesn't affect his ability to run a football club. Time will tell.

We also have no evidence that he intends to rebrand, or relocate. Given that some people give weight to what McCrory says after a few beers in the Tap, and any agenda that may go with that, I'm happy to dismiss that one for now. Rumours start all too easily. Reports based on opinion are taken as fact. Half the story can be presented as the whole. I've been dealing with something at work for the past year or so, and there are stories in the national press most weeks on it. The misreporting and misinterpretation by people who you would attach a great deal of credibility to is surprising. That's not a dig at the press (which continue to do a great job for the fans locally) but just a demonstration that the only thing that matters when it comes to board matters and club finance is the black and white of the contracts and the accounts and the decisions taken in board meetings. The rest is opinion and half-truth that gets spun around on here, twitter and around the ground and quickly becomes 'fact' from someone in the know.

What we do know about him is that he has brought us some fine players. Long may that continue.

Now, for the football.

ps just unfollowed McCrory/McCoy. It's like a timeline detox. Highly recommended.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 19:08:56
We also have no evidence that he intends to rebound, or relocate. Given that some people give weight to what McCrory said after a few beers in the Tap, and any agenda that may go with that, I'm happy to dismiss that one for now.

Just what did Jed say? Rebrand and relocate (where)?

If its come from Jed, I'd take it with a sack of salt, but it would be good to know what was said. The investigating TEF are impressive when they want to be and would likely sniff out anything untoward.


Title: Re:
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 19:16:50
That isn't a reference to anything I know he has said. Only that he says things he shouldn't, apparently, in the pub (I stress, apparently!) and that some on here have spoken of Cardiff style rebranding. Perhaps a good illustration on a rumour starting unintentionally....


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: iffy on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 19:18:08
Whilst I think it would on balance be a good idea for the Trust to own 40% of the club, when there's a cashflow crisis and the club needs £250k, where do the Trust get their share of that from? Just curious to understand how that would work if there are any Trust bods online.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: joteddyred on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 19:23:19
Decent statement from Power.

It was pretty clear from day one that Jed had no real financial backing, so he was always going to struggle to be here for any length of time.  He'll miss being part of the club more than the club will miss him.

Will be interesting to see who Power brings in on the Board.  Hopefully his previous dodgy dealings are a thing of the past. 


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: ChinaWhitenRed on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 19:27:23
It depends how much he would want for the shares..
A pint and a Jeagerbomb.......


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 19:27:28
Whilst I think it would on balance be a good idea for the Trust to own 40% of the club, when there's a cashflow crisis and the club needs £250k, where do the Trust get their share of that from? Just curious to understand how that would work if there are any Trust bods online.

True but if Jed keeps his shares do you think he'll stump up in that scenario?

The Trust would need a contingency fund though I accept that.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 19:36:24
That isn't a reference to anything I know he has said. Only that he says things he shouldn't, apparently, in the pub (I stress, apparently!) and that some on here have spoken of Cardiff style rebranding. Perhaps a good illustration on a rumour starting unintentionally....

:) Its OK, I've only posted it as fact on thisis, twitter and facebook (not really).


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 20:09:19
So we all love Power now then. 1 statement, written by someone else, and he's back in the good books.
Oh fuck off. People have just said (quite reasonably) that the two statements from the two shows a marked contrast in their approaches and beyond that they're prepared to give Power a chance. Nothing wrong with that is there?

Not just you but I'm sick of this "all or nothing" approach - there's such a thing as shades of grey. Or not especially trusting/liking any of the various factions but being prepared to acknowledge when someone's got something right (or ballsed up).

Nice statement, changes nothing, like any of them, judge them on their actions not their words.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 20:12:31
Whilst I think it would on balance be a good idea for the Trust to own 40% of the club, when there's a cashflow crisis and the club needs £250k, where do the Trust get their share of that from? Just curious to understand how that would work if there are any Trust bods online.

We've been discussing different scenarios at board meetings lately as part of our SAFE aims, which is on our website (with E standing for Emergency planning). I suppose we could have a fund like the RAF with money ready, or like Pompey, whose donations that were pledged to buy the club only kicked in when they were given the go ahead.

We've got a board meeting on Thursday night, so undoubtedly, what has happened in the last few days will be discussed.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 20:18:41
Absolutely thrilled the wide boy has left stfc. That statement off his is a disgrace. He should be ashamed of that.

Not convinced by power at all, but will see what he has to say and how he conducts himself before judging.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 20:23:25
We had a group of 'nice chaps' who got the club into a healthy position and then totally self-destructed it within a few years. This is the problem with relying on investors. Lee Power could be someone with a very good history of running successful and highly profitable business, sports clubs and even football clubs. But our situation here means if we have to rely on cash injections every few months we're going to be fucked again before too long.

The playing setup is decent and I like the loan players we have got in. It's benefited us. We certainly don't look like the relegation material a significant proportion of the fan base was expecting before we'd even kicked off the season. So credit to Lee Power for this.

Many moaned that we had to try not to spend beyond our means, as if the club had the right to be an eternal charity case because they'd been watching them for 30 years and we 'are a Championship standard club.' I really hope we somehow do manage to get to that break even position and stick there. We can't rely on a benefactor.

Same with Mark Cooper - the fuckwits who moaned about him being the cheap option, that he's being mind controlled by Lee Power. If he doesn't get the tactics and performances exactly to Lee's liking he's punished by having to collect the cones himself then stand in front of the youth team whilst they give him stingers.

My biggest fear about Lee Power's involvement is that we end up renting a soulless out-of-town stadium from his known (previous?) associates. An even bigger fear is that we're relocating to the City of Salford, bit of a trek to get there for every home game.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 20:26:16
And am I the only person who thinks of the below when I hear/read the term 'SAFE aims'?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpR5_LQCyzk


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 20:59:47
Just caught up with the day's play...

[BREAK]

...may that continue.

Now, for the football.

ps just unfollowed McCrory/McCoy. It's like a timeline detox. Highly recommended.

Top post, that.  And it seems a few others have had the same idea on Twitter.  I noticed that Jed had precisely 4,000 followers when I looked at his profile earlier today.  He now has 3,994.

I'm not going to focus on Jed's statement much.  No point really.  All I would say is that he stepped in when no one else looked as if they were going to and kept things ticking over well enough for the best part of a year.  Regardless of any gaps in his skill set, he has my thanks for that.

As for Lee Power: we asked for some communication, and we got it.  Only time will tell whether it is genuine.  But he deserves a chance, and he'll get one from me.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 21:18:00
I'm not going to focus on Jed's statement much.  No point really.  All I would say is that he stepped in when no one else looked as if they were going to and kept things ticking over well enough for the best part of a year.  Regardless of any gaps in his skill set, he has my thanks for that.
Agreed on that. Regardless of whether Jed was in it for the money, a chancer or just a fan out of his depth he did save the club from certain administration and we should all be grateful for that.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 22:03:46
Does Jed going and selling out to someone who has the cash to keep the club going prove that his 'model' to run a self sustained club has failed? please let me know.

No one would have had a chance of making a club that after PDC and the never ending budget (well never ending until AB found out) so the answer is who know's?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 23:11:21
Jed, a saviour?  Sure his bonhomie could be engaging but what is the financial balance sheet of his involvement at STFC?  Might there be issues as to what he has taken out?  Could anyone point me to any evidence that Jed has put more than £1 into STFC or that he personally has even risked anything beyond a round of drinks? 

If not, 9 months of financial opportunity and minor celebrity as a Chairman is a decent reward not requiring any forelock tugging.  Through necessity, Jed and his team had started to address some of the structural issues of the club's over-dependency on individual donor sponsorship and for that, with Steve Murrall, credit does appear to be due to Jed.

It was AB however who put his hand in his pocket and, as curiously confirmed by the latest audited balance sheet, it was AB who left STFC with relatively light debts - without his parting write offs, there would have been no club to sell for £1.  STFC emerged from ABs period of ownership with lessons learned and better off than when he joined, even if the suddenness of his departure remains regrettable to all but AB himself.

We are now left with LP.  Obviously LP has my respect as a shareholder because he has "shown the money" in terms of funding and to a degree also in terms of risk.  LP's historical lack of communication of any overt business plan does concern me but is not untypical in a "small business".  I think history shows that if LP were ever at risk of losing out or putting STFC into admin, he would choose the latter. 

LP does pay the piper and is entitled to call the tune.  Unless more solid grounds emerge to question his motives, then for me it is, curiously for a cynic, in LP we trust. even if we ought keep up the questioning and support the Trust.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 23:36:11
I'm all for statements, but Lee Power's statement is one of the best I've read. Obviously he'll be judged on actions rather than words, but lets give the guy a chance as somebody earlier said. He wants to be judged after 5 years, not 5 minutes, will he get things wrong - almost certainly, but I'd like to think he'll get most things right and seems like he's off to a good start with regards to using his football contacts with the Spurs players. I'm prepared to give him the time he asks, I just hope he sticks around for that - the long haul, something that you don't see too often in football these days - A bit of communication here and there, and to know our club is becoming sustainable off the pitch, and on the pitch having more success than failure. That may sound a lot, but all I really ask for and want is to ensure there is Swindon Town FC to support!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 06:07:18
Oh fuck off. People have just said (quite reasonably) that the two statements from the two shows a marked contrast in their approaches and beyond that they're prepared to give Power a chance. Nothing wrong with that is there?

Not just you but I'm sick of this "all or nothing" approach - there's such a thing as shades of grey. Or not especially trusting/liking any of the various factions but being prepared to acknowledge when someone's got something right (or ballsed up).

Nice statement, changes nothing, like any of them, judge them on their actions not their words.

Agreed. But we, as in you, me and everyone else now seem to look a bit more favourably towards mr Power, post statement. In some ways that statement has changed everything. It's a good one alright. There was supposed to be an elemen of humour to my post, which either you missed or I forgot to add


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 07:51:39
Agreed. But we, as in you, me and everyone else now seem to look a bit more favourably towards mr Power, post statement. In some ways that statement has changed everything. It's a good one alright.
Speak for yourself: for myself, I already said "Nice statement, changes nothing"
There was supposed to be an elemen of humour to my post, which either you missed or I forgot to add
If it was there, I did indeed miss it. And to some extent I jumped on it as an example of the class of these "Oh so everyone's swung the other way" posts which are very annoying. Arguing to the extreme like that does nothing to further the discussion, just attempts to polarise everyone's opinion when in fact most of us are more than capable of recognising that even the biggest of fools/crooks can get something right and that even the best/most honest can fuck up and can take that into account.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: london_red on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 08:06:24
What's that, the fifth person to hold the title of Chairman of Swindon Town Football Club in a little over two and a half years?

I know the standard refrain is 'never a dull moment' but a period of relative stability and consistency off the pitch at least would be more than welcome for me.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 08:14:07
Speak for yourself: for myself, I already said "Nice statement, changes nothing"If it was there, I did indeed miss it. And to some extent I jumped on it as an example of the class of these "Oh so everyone's swung the other way" posts which are very annoying. Arguing to the extreme like that does nothing to further the discussion, just attempts to polarise everyone's opinion when in fact most of us are more than capable of recognising that even the biggest of fools/crooks can get something right and that even the best/most honest can fuck up and can take that into account.

Fair play.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 08:16:12
What's that, the fifth person to hold the title of Chairman of Swindon Town Football Club in a little over two and a half years?
This from Sam M last night gives some perspective on quite how revolving the County Ground door has been of late:
Quote
Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 13h
I've been with Adver in this role for 19 months. Inc caretakers I've worked with five #stfc managers; four chairmen & three owners. Bonkers.
I know the standard refrain is 'never a dull moment' but a period of relative stability and consistency off the pitch at least would be more than welcome for me.
Understand the sentiment and largely agree but with the important caveat of provided they're the right people in place. If not, would rather see the door continue to revolve until we do have the right people however frustrating and bewildering that may be. Let's hope we do now have the right people at the helm. And behind them.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 09:11:29
I'd be interested to know if the money that Power is putting in is from his own pocket, which we would assume to be a loan (didn't the FL tighten up on these rules ?)

and when he expects repayment and at what sort of rate (although I'd expect this is something that would have to be in future accounts ?)

I heard mentioned on RS this morning that he has said he wants us in the championship within 2 years, so do we have a plan for this ?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 09:34:51
Not selling Wes in January will be a good start.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Notts red on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 09:56:04
Not selling Wes in January will be a good start.
This


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 10:10:01
Employing a CEO would be a better one.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 10:14:57
Not selling Wes in January will be a good start.

Agree,selling arguably your best player then claiming that you are after Championship football within two years would be at odds.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 10:45:37
But how the hell are we going to survive without selling players? Our crowds are pretty poor, we have fuck all revenue streams. If Power continues to fund the shortfall then surely we're just gonna end up back where we were in January?


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 10:47:41
But how the hell are we going to survive without selling players? Our crowds are pretty poor, we have fuck all revenue streams. If Power continues to fund the shortfall then surely we're just gonna end up back where we were in January?

Exactly...so just say that then is my point :D


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: derbystfc on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 11:28:47
I think this Crouch fella is pretty wealthy and cosy with some other wealthy people. His firm Crunch? one investor in that is worth 800 million I read somewhere or something. could be wrong


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 11:40:36
Arbib was one of the richest men in Britain so that doesn't necessarily mean much


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: derbystfc on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 11:56:33
True, these people are wealthy for one reason, they are good with their money


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 12:15:55
I really don't think we'll be getting a sugar daddy, that much has been made quite clear.

That doesn't necessarily mean, however, that money won't be available when it might be considered wise to spend/invest. Andrew Fitton had a break-even policy yet he still spent money on various players.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 13:06:53
But how the hell are we going to survive without selling players? Our crowds are pretty poor, we have fuck all revenue streams. If Power continues to fund the shortfall then surely we're just gonna end up back where we were in January?
One of the first things I'd be trying to do if I was Power is see how watertight that contract is where McCrory and Co forward sold the catering and hospitality revenue for the next decade. Understand why it was done, but that's a key potential revenue stream (if it's done properly) gone in return for a fairly small lump sum.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: iffy on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 13:30:14
I think this Crouch fella is pretty wealthy and cosy with some other wealthy people. His firm Crunch? one investor in that is worth 800 million I read somewhere or something. could be wrong

From selling a social network to AOL. Do not expect that any of that money will be coming Town's way.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: derbystfc on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 14:09:52
From selling a social network to AOL. Do not expect that any of that money will be coming Town's way.

I dont, the point is that this Crouch fella has prob got huge business contacts, credible ones at that it seems


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 17:12:05
Power saying on bbc the club has no debt? Maybe crouchy's been up the cashpoint today or topped up his Mondex card. Can't quite see how that is true exactly.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: iffy on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 17:14:23
I dont, the point is that this Crouch fella has prob got huge business contacts, credible ones at that it seems
yes, that's very true


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 17:23:42
Power saying on bbc the club has no debt? Maybe crouchy's been up the cashpoint today or topped up his Mondex card. Can't quite see how that is true exactly.

If he's NatWest then he'll of got fuck all.

Mondex  :)  Well I remember, I was part of the trial project....good fun. The company doing the research, paid a number of people to trial Mondex...we got tea and cakes, as well as paid, in the Goddards every so often where we gave feed back, using record sheets of our spending. They gave us cash on the card and we just had to spend it...they then decided they needed more info so gave us another wodge of cash to spend....all in all got a useful sum for basically doing fuck all, never a bad thing.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 17:26:08
all in all got a useful sum for basically doing fuck all

Sounds like my working life


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: iffy on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 17:26:35
I remember the trial went really well, and then they said, "brilliant, so we'll charge you £12 a month to have one" or something and everyone just stopped using it immediately.

I also remember that the Mondex trial was the first time I heard the fact that Swindon is the most 'demographically average' town in the UK, which is why it gets used for lots of product trials.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 17:37:09
I remember the trial went really well, and then they said, "brilliant, so we'll charge you £12 a month to have one" or something and everyone just stopped using it immediately.

I also remember that the Mondex trial was the first time I heard the fact that Swindon is the most 'demographically average' town in the UK, which is why it gets used for lots of product trials.

Yeah the last bit is true apparently, well at least was; the Mondex trial was prob mid 90's so a while ago.

I can't really remember why it never happened, other than a vague memory of debit cards and readers etc, improving so they essentially did the same job.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 17:44:05
Need to get Mondex up and running again. Maybe get Steve Murral to have it as his project. Anyone still got a card?


Title: Re: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 18:08:52
I had a housemate in Westlea in the mid 1990s called Mondex Mark.  He had a card.  True story.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: iffy on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 18:11:42
Need to get Mondex up and running again. Maybe get Steve Murral to have it as his project. Anyone still got a card?

Yeah, they could call it MyMondex and it accidentally rings everything through three times and the bloke in the club shop has to spend his life doing manual refunds because no-one ever did any user testing.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 18:18:00
I had a housemate in Westlea in the mid 1990s called Mondex Mark.  He had a card.  True story.

Let's do a 'where is he now?' on Mondex Mark'. Seems silly not to.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: stfc2012 on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 18:18:56
Yeah, they could call it MyMondex and it accidentally rings everything through three times and the bloke in the club shop has to spend his life doing manual refunds because no-one ever did any user testing.

Or maybe it doesn't go through the tills at all...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Hoboken on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 19:40:30
But how the hell are we going to survive without selling players? Our crowds are pretty poor, we have fuck all revenue streams. If Power continues to fund the shortfall then surely we're just gonna end up back where we were in January?

Get to Wembley in the JPT...for all its lack of appeal, it could be a saviour...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 19:48:46
Get to Wembley in the JPT...for all its lack of appeal, it could be a saviour...

You only win about 20 quid for winning the JPT. And a years supply of paint


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: @mwooly63 on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 19:53:13
You only win about 20 quid for winning the JPT. And a years supply of paint

Both area finals plus final televised
Wont buy a Luongo but everything comes in handy


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 20:31:52
You only win about 20 quid for winning the JPT. And a years supply of paint
The Ground redevelopment could be on again.


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 20:34:08
I like the JPT, and I think we'll win it this season!


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 22:04:11
Let's hope chesterfied leave the whitewash at home


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 22:37:27
I had a housemate in Westlea in the mid 1990s called Mondex Mark.  He had a card.  True story.

You lost me at 'mate'.... :)


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: fatbasher on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 22:52:12
You lost me at 'mate'.... :)

I had a mondex gaget, never used it, was signed up by my friend in the old Midland bank in old town...


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, December 4, 2013, 23:28:55
I had a mondex gaget, never used it, was signed up by my friend in the old Midland bank in old town...

Cool story bro


Title: Re: Lee Power
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, December 5, 2013, 12:58:04
Interesting quote:

The option has been in place since April. It's always been our plan to exercise it and take control of the club," added the former Norwich striker.

Would like it confirmed who "we" are is it Power & Crouch or Power & A N Other

Hopefully some will become clearer after his stint on the Radio monday night, although I hope it is no holds barred and there is some serious questions asked not just your usual radio phone in callers