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Swindon Town are delighted to announce the signing of striker Nile Ranger on a one year deal #STFC pic.twitter.com/PFuCUfmg9r

your just a grammar nazi. have you nothink better to do then mock people for there english skills?

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STFC Chairman Jed McCrory has confirmed that the Club have signed Nile Ranger on a one year contract with requisite caveats vis-a-vis his ongoing legal case.

“Having spent a few weeks in discussions with Nile explaining our vision and the values of the Club and what we would be looking from him, I feel that with rigorous support from the Club, Nile could prove a valuable asset to the squad,” he said.

“I am obviously aware of Nile’s personal matters, but I have always believed in giving people second chances.  We will provide all the support he needs and it is up to Nile now to prove the star quality player he is – which we as a club believe he will. And of course, I am pleased that Nile has chosen to join Swindon despite having been offered commercially more attractive terms from other clubs.”

Read more at http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/chairmanonranger-996683.aspx#YtYJ9VIgFaVe7hh4.99

Hmmm. For some reason, I was more okay with potentially signing McCormick, a convicted killer, than this chap. Oh well, see what he can do.

I'm all for rehabilitation and giving people second chances, but I just don't like his demeanour. Only time will tell whether he can sort himself out and if this is a good signing or not.

Jed confirms he's our new number 9 and will be in the squad tomorrow.

Should be interesting

As a dyslexic, yes i do. Not mocking, was more that fact he was excited! but can see why you thought that.

Well that is officially an interesting signing!

It's a risk, but maybe he will take this chance if he realises it could well be his last.

For those against the signing, at least note it's our D of F that's brought him in. So if you want to holler for his departure at matches, do me the favour of at least chanting "Go, Go Power's Ranger".

I hope he gets convicted as soon as possible so we can get rid of him.

Worthless piece of shit.

Brilliant.

If he did it then he deserves to go down for a long time, if he didn't then fair play in giving him a twentieth chance (he seems to have had a lot of chances before).  

If he can sort his head out he could be a brilliant signing, don't think his talent is in question just his attitude.

 :D :clap:

I'm sure we're all against his signing until he scores his first goal. We're all fickle football fans after all!

Playing Devils advocate here:

But if he gets aquitted, and then scores the goal that get us upto the championship, what would everyones feeling be then??

I don't have too much of an issue with the fact that the guy is a total cock, there are plenty of those in football already.

As far as I can tell, his convictions, excluding those when he was legally a minor, amount to drunk & disorderly, homophobic comments and breach of bail. All other charges were dropped, not guilty or are pending (caveat: according to wikipedia) All of this pales into insignificance when compared to a charge of rape.

I think it's a huge risk on the part of the club to offer a contract before knowing the verdict of his rape trial. They can add-in any contractual clauses they want regarding it, but nothing will change the fact that, if guilty, the club will have chosen to become associated with a convicted rapist.
I'm also all for second chances in the right circumstances, but it's surely best to go into these things knowing exactly what you're giving a second chance for.

Given Town prides itself on being a family friendly club I can't see how they could think the risk of that association is worth any number of goals that Ranger might bring to us.

If he's found guilty he'll be gone. It's not the club's, or the fans, job to try him. No one will defend him if he's convicted but until his court case isn't he presumed innocent?
Hope he plays Saturday and scores a hat trick.

That's pretty much the reasoned and well thought out post I struggle to make.

A lot of people make mistakes and learn from them, Ranger has had better opportunity than most to sort himself out but hasn't shown much of a willingness to do so.

Links with fascism now potential rapist, I really am finding it hard to support stfc anymore. Signing off very disillusioned with football.

This.

A goal tomorrow for Mr Ranger and Graham Turner will complain about his wages/convictions or some or shite to do with PdC

I'm with Venkman and Herthab on this one

we're all potential rapists Mex

Fucking get in there.

I have warmed to the idea of signing him and no doubt he will be a hero amongst Town fans if he produces the goods. Hope he is giving a chance, must be his last effort at making a go at things and beats signing some old clogger like some of the names that were being suggested - Gary Alexander and Billy Kee :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Jed Mcrory - The Gift That Keeps On Giving

:noddles:

Billy Kee is 22 you cock.

If he has half the impact that PdC had then we are in for a treat.

Completely agree, it's no-one's job to try him aside from the jury. I'm just not comfortable with the club's reputation being in the hands of whether this man, who until a few minutes ago had nothing to do with us, is found guilty or not guilty.

People are more likely to not come and watch Town if we don't win, because we don't have a goalscorer than because we've signed a guy who might be a rapist.

Fans are fickle and just wanna watch their team do well at the end of the day. I knew several people who took the moral high horse when Di Canio was appointed and they still turned up and watched. Why? Because we were winning.

If Ranger does the business, nobody will care. If he's found guilty, he will be let go. It's a risk, yeah, but if it pays off it will win us more 'customers' than ones we stand to lose due to moral objections.

FWIW I dont want him here. Won't stop me watching, of course.

Rapist or no rapist, he's still a cock.  Bloody hell, Swindon, you really try me sometimes.

On a slight tangent does Ranger remind anyone else of Leon Knight?

And also not good enough to be the main striker for a League 1 side aiming for promotion.

Charlie Austin is a cock. So is Aden Flint. Some of our current lot are probably dickheads as well.

Pretty much spot on.

In amongst all the bluster and outrage you always come through with posts that fill me with a calm, monk-like zen.

I'm getting your name tattooed on my face.

Negative: Seems a right cock....I wanna be a Gangsta.....Rape charge pending...

Positive: A better player than our current level for sure....so probably a bargain...

No doubt if he's found guilty he will be playing for Erlestoke first team and bombed out by us Sharpish.

Rather we steered clear of him but nothing surprises me in football anymore...

Anyway hope he scores a hat trick and fucking crusty Turner moans like a bitch!

 ;D

I love the first comment made after the original post.

http://yellowsforum.proboards.com/thread/14918/swindon-sign-nile-ranger

Who cares about the criminal stuff? The bloke has got his own name tattooed across his bonce for fucks sake.

Hilarious signing.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

There's no right or wrong view in a situation like this.  All down to personal feeling, and everyone draws their line in a slightly different place.

99% of people do. Then you have the fucking nutcases like you who go in to an emotional meltdown every time someone utters a naughty word or a joke about somebody who is anything other than alive and positively kicking.

Perhaps we could sponsor his face, Thetownend.com emblazoned across his forehead.

Do you want names?


Oh fuck it.  I'm not going to rise.

I see many of them have chosen to leave the stones on the floor while standing in their glass house.

Didn't they also have a kiddy fiddler for a boss at some point.

Still not keen on the signing because of his obvious reputation, but if he bangs in the goals then that would soon change opinions.

Assuming he hasn't done a pre-season anywhere he can't be anywhere near match fit!

Luke McCormick last season aswell. Its ok when they do it though.

There are many on here too.

Personally, I can't abide the holier-than-thou types - probably Guardian readers, too.

He is obviously a bell-end - but, hey, when did that ever stop someone from being a footballer.

If he is ever convicted of rape then he will be sent down - as he should be.

So who will stop watching Corrie cos of that other bell-end, Tommy, posting a video declaring he wants to rape a girl

Ah a signing that will be discussed to death on here!! Personally im Uneasy with the signing but hopefully he can do his talking on the pitch and learn not to be a cock off the pitch.

22 years old so time for him to grow up and prove he can make a living as a footballer.

He's in the squad for Saturday though? Surely he must be unfit as hell?

And he will be fucking awesome at this level

Has anyone here seen him play?

I'm more concerned that he could be shit, his goalscoring record is shocking even given the sub appearances and higher divisions.

Hope I'm wrong obviously, couldn't really give a shit about the off-field stuff. Looking forward to the hollier-than-now attitude of opposing fans when he bangs in a goal against them.

Bring it on

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Serenity now. Serenity now.

Only 3 years ago when he was on trial with us at Salisbury.

I gave it up when ken Barlow betrayed Deirdre and became a kiddie fiddler :cry:

And now he's on trial with us at the Old Bailey, rather than Old Sarum.

This whole should we/shouldn't we sign him thing reminds me of the story of John Barnes at Liverpool that highlights how fickle fans are.

Before John Barnes signed for Liverpool a friend of his was sat in the stand at Liverpool and overheard 2 old blokes behind him saying "we don't want another black player in our team, we already had Howard Gayle and we don't need any more black players this is an all white team etc etc"

Every game the old blokes said exactly the same thing for the duration of John Barnes being linked to Liverpool.

Then after John Barnes had signed and had played a stormer in his first 3 games for Liverpool and scored a blinding free kick vs Oxford the old blokes were heard to say "that John Barnes....hes not as black as I thought!"

That goes to prove that if he performs on the pitch fickle football fans will soon enough take to him and not worry about how they felt about him prior to his signing.

 I do feel this signing highlights why we need a proper manager, and not just a yes man...I don't think a proper manager would go anywhere near Ranger...

Sorry but that is a terrible analogy... Ranger has a string of criminal convictions, a rape charge hanging over him (and therefore STFC), shown himself to be homophobic, thinks he's too important to abide by his bail conditions etc etc.

Barnes was just black.

It's also not true. Howard Gayle left Liverpool in 1983 well before Barnes joined in 1987.

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What a fucking ludicrous statement. I can understand if people are unhappy with the signing, but the above has just used up all the bollocks quota for today.

Sorry I put "have" instead of "had" my mistake thanks for pointing that mistake out I am forever in your debt.

You missed my point which was nothing to do with being black...it is about fickle football fans.

How is it ludicrous? Ranger has been charged with rape and he's now an employee of STFC and until the court case is settled we have no idea whether he's at the club long term or not. That's the point I was making and not that STFC is somehow going to be punished alongside Ranger if found guilty.

But disliking a player because of the colour of his skin is not fickle, it's just fucking stupid.

People, myself included, are judging Ranger on his behaviour and not his appearance. Except for the tattoo.

I think it's great we've signed him. Gives me chance to read more rants and rows on here. Love a good meltdown

Spot on.

Cannot say i am happy with this one.

Not just because of his antics....more to the point is that we may as well not bother with a manager with these players coming in....let the board manage.

I am glad to be associated with a club which will take a risk in giving someone another chance.  Most clubs would not do it, and have little concern for the welfare of their players...as long as they produce the goods on the field they're in, and as soon as something interferes with that, they are out.....  It IS a risk to take Ranger on.  He may well go to prison.  He may well kick the club in the face.  I hope he does not.  But Jed et al are to be congratulated for taking that risk (as was Nick Watkins with Luke McCormick).  And I am a Guardian reader.

I'll bite on behalf of Ardiles who normally writes stuff that is interesting rather than some wanker who thinks they're a fucking smartass.

I hope he gets STFC tattooed on the other side of his noggin.

Shouldn't have gone anywhere near him. He's has plenty of chances. Family club my arse.

On the other hand we have potentially got a better play than we should have.

Bot happy with it, but there you go.

That's if you believe they are doing it to give him a second chance rather than get a player cheaply. Although I don't like or trust this Board, in this instance they are no better or worse than a lot of other opportunistic boards who will hide behind the second chance bollocks whereas in fact its more the "bargain" that is the driver.  

Trouble is Chalkie we are skint,got no manager....so it shows what options he had.

None bar us....guaranteed.

“There was strong interest in me from other clubs in the Championship and League One but, despite the offer of more money, I feel that Swindon Town will give me a solid platform to realise my potential and help me from going off the rails.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Alright then.

"there was strong interest" = no offers.

Lets not forget he could be innocent....if he is i actually feel sorry for him no matter what his past is.

For me its more the fact the board are signing players....call me old fashioned i like the manager to do that.

Innocent or guilty of the charges, I simply refuse to feel sorry for anyone stupid enough to get his name tattooed on his forehead!

Now you have clarified your point I retract my earlier statement.

Less moral outrage on the TEF than I had expected, up your game!

"He's got his name tattooed on his head, he's got his name tattooed on his head"

To the tune of He's got the whole world in his hands.

Instead of a pineapple you mean.

Does he have his name tattooed on a pineapple?

He practised on the pineapple. Then he shot it. And then he fucked it.

I hope they have something in his contract about attitude in training etc:

http://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/article/44251/ranger-given-final-warning-by-newcastle

I've gone off him rather a lot after reading that. I hope Cooper et al take no shit from him.

Still had three years left when leaving then,didn't realise that.

big mistake this, lost a lot of respect for the board and club on this one.

All this anger and indignation, if he nets 20 goals this season we'll all be queuing up to suck him off....

You have to admit it's a risk. Even without the rape charge there is a chance he'll either do something retarded or unsettle the rest of the squad.

Agree, also I think it will make the season a bit more spicey, plus it will make us more hated than we already are :sofa:

Unifications post is good too...

Agree it's a risk, but a calculated one. If he is found not guilty,  knuckles down and is a success,  we'll be quids in. Wouldn't imagine he's on much and they'll no doubt be things written into his contact that means if he fucks around he's out.

Quality Reg!!

This thread just gets better....Stevie with a corked!

Plenty of life's great shits have continued to make a living out of football.  You give too much credence to those in the game I fear.  

Amazed by some of the hypocrites on here.

All Ranger is guilty of is a bit of drunk and disorderly, breaching bail, making some homophobic comments and being a twat. Yet the way people are going on you'd think he'd committed murder. As regards the rape charge, it's innocent until proven guilty.

On the other hand when it came to another individual who had; a history of major falling outs with managers and owners, attacked a referee, made Nazi salutes on the pitch, admitted being a Fascist and was at times a major twat, they were welcomed with open arms.

Ranger is only 22, going from Newcastle to Swindon is going to be a wake up call for him and hopefully he'll realise he's running out of chances and we'll see him making an effort. Plus we've got a decent player who could be a major asset this season.

I doubt he'll fuck around between now and January anyway, what with his case approaching. If anything he's likely to be the model pro for as long as he needs to be.

That might change if he is acquitted though.

Good post. Didn't think I'd ever say that about one of your posts.

Plus the cunt WILL get a tattoo done and not just say it......

I want a wonky Don Rodge on his left cheek....

I want to be morally outraged but I miss the feeling of hatred from others that Di Canio brought us.

Fucking drivel as usual.

Did you support the Town when PDC was flying...course you did.

Which makes you the biggest hypocrite in the book surely.

I hope silly goal celebration has been prepared....right in front of Turners dug out...

I think that's his point Lee....

Yeah, could we start an official "Nile Ranger Humble Backtracked Opinions Thread" when he's found not guilty and is into double figures by Xmas?

Or we could start a "Nile Ranger : I Smuggly Told You So Thread" when he's found guilty and is eight months into a two year stretch.

BTW how are the 'Crewe 7' getting on, they're due in court soon aren't they? Not much heat drifting their way anymore in the press I notice.... today's news tomorrows chip paper etc etc. :yawn:

Wish I knew what Lee's point was.

I didn't have an issue with PDC when he came here and made plenty of posts on here defending him.

Same as I don't have an issue with Ranger, though it would be good if he made a "I know I've been a twat in the past and I'm trying to sort my shit out" type statement and helped some grannies to cross the road.

No Steve...he was accusing others of being Hypocrites not himself.

And lets face it PDC was never accused of rape,never breached bail,never made homophobic comments and certainly never turned in late for work on a contant basis.

Comparing the two is pathetic.

Why am I a hypocrite?

Clearly, not sure its worth the risk myself but ain't going to lose sleep over it.

Don't buy the calculated risk theory myself.

The bloke is clearly a waste of space. He's had loads of chances and continues to behave like an animal. Why would that change now? You are what you are.

What's that saying about leopards and spots...

I thought leefer wasn't going to post about Paolo anymore...

Totally agree with this...

We'll all be outraged for a bit, then he'll score a few and we'll be all "I don't like the guy but he's doing a job" he'll finish top scorer and leave on a free to..errmmmm... lets say.... Brighton - and we'll all be outraged again and return to calling him a "dirty, raping cunt"

The circle of life.

Not going to argue with you Jonny....you make good posts usually.

Just fed up with the continual sniping at PDC to be honest.
In my eyes fans accepting PDC(like me) have every right to be pissed off with the Ranger signing(like me)....without being called Hypocrites

I apologize  for calling you a Hypocrite.....on reading the posts back you are not,i read it wrong.

So as i say hope you accept my apology.

Leopards have issues applying acne cream :sherlock:

He will either be a cult hero or a train crash.

Are you still acting like a Danny Dyer wannabe?

I think you are confusing my contempt for people like you with thinking I'm a hard case...

Hope the guy gets a hat trick tommorow. COYR

I was merely paraphrasing something that you posted about yourself in a different thread. But feel free to continue to make assumptions. Your contempt is most welcome and means I must be doing something right.

Me too.

Can't see him playing much though. There's no way he can be match fit.

I think you may be extrapolating a bit too much if you that've interpreted anything I've said as considering myself pwopa nawty.

Wasn't sniping at PDC, just making the point he had a chequered past as well and I'm not sure there is much between them. And no need for an apology.

Other footballers have been accused of rape, wasn't an England team supposed to have gang raped a few woman years back,
Lee Hughes runs down and kills, Johnathon woodgate and that other twat kick fuck out of a bloke, etc, lets give him a chance,
You never know he might score some goals COYR

Well worth the controversy and signing then

I said wannabe.

 ;D

So, if he scores a few goals and is then found guilty of rape, would people feel grubby. I accept the innocent until proven guilty argument but if guilty then we'd have been paying and supporting a rapist. That does not sit well with me.

When did Lee Hughes run down and kill Jonathon Woodgate?  I must have missed that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN0XRkSyhwM&feature=player_detailpage

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He could always grab hold of the old fecker and wap it up his bolt hole

Seems apt

:)

 :popcorn: bravo. Please all drink some alcohol and keep posting.

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I'm no bible thumper, far from it, in fact I'd go as far as saying a lot of people are going to be sorely disappointed when they meet their maker.

That said let he who is without sin cast the first stone....

WRT to the "alleged" rape case. We have a judicial system that presumes an individual to be innocent until proven guilty by 12 good men and true, or whatever the real saying is. Have you ever been accused of something that you never did? Can you remember how you felt?

As to his previous misdemeanours, I'm not up to speed with what they are or the punishment dished out but I'm a forgiving sort of chap and try to see the good side of people so to me I just read the comments about this bloke and laugh. We're all two faced, lying hypocrites on one level or another. Disagree?, I refer you to the second sentence above.

So grow up. Not your decision or mine, if you don't like it don't go to the GC, simple. The real issue for me is if we did not go in for him some other club would have and you can bet your last rolo that had they been a league one club the Cnut would have scored against us, you know he would, you just know he would.

So we have a water tight contract that if convicted he'll not be bending over to pick up the soap in the communal showers whilst enjoying some R&R @ HM pleasure and serve him right. On the other hand if he's proven innocent he has an opportunity to drink and buy a round in the last chance saloon with us. Let's face it if he fucks up here he's finished end of.

So I'm up to the greenhous tomorrow with my lad and one of my old customers who lives in Craven Arms COYR.

Oh just a passing thought, if he does play tomorrow and scores, will he be met by a) a wall of silence from the town fans, b) verciferous booing/jeering or c) delirious cheering?

:)

Everyone has the ability to exercise their own individual sanction.

If you dont like the idea of Queens Park playing for STFC dont go and watch.

Personally, I cant wait to see the mother-fucker!

 :nod:

He is a despicable cunt but if he isn't guilty of rape then I can live with him being a Town player, provided he doesn't disrupt the dressing room.

I believe it took 10 pages to read a post that I agree with...

Splendid

No-one has said anything about dirty northern slags on benefits yet. Disappointed chaps.

On a purely football related note, he could be precisely what we've needed for two seasons. He's obviously got something, or he wouldn't have been anywhere near a Premiership side's development/reserve teams. And if the County Ground ends up singing "Go go Power's Ranger" I'll fucking join in because that's too perfect.

Having said that though, he's obviously a knobber. I think sinking to L1, especially if what Jed said about the offer being not the most lucrative, might be his way of  "okay, maybe I should stop being such a dick now."

That said, if these rape allegations are true and he is sent away, he can fucking spin for all eternity.

From this side of the world.....what a master stroke.

The opportunity for STFC to have a potential quality striker...???

If he fu#ks up.....nothing ventured nothing gained.

I think we all knew deep down that PDC was a car crash waiting to happen..but what fun it was waiting in total denial.

This Ranger situation is nothing compared to the Di Canio experience...but could be a good experience all the same.

COYRS  





 

Totally agree.  However it's not just about the rape allegation, it's his general attititude and the effect he might have on the rest of the team and not forgetting his shit record.  A signing that is just not worth the risk.

A couple of people have posted if people don't like it, don't go.  That's fine for the fair weather fan, but what about those who've bought season tickets - the club already has their money?

Really disappointed with this signing tbh and I'm rapidly losing interest in STFC and the continual controversy that surrounds it. 

Still think we need another striker

We will if he gets convicted.

Sorry, I simply can't agree with comments..Joteddyred.

Football is about excitement and passion, taking chances and winning...

And before you say Rangers supposed recent act was not passion..we don't know do we   ???

The jury will decide if it was more serious...

But nothing gives me more a buzz than seeing STFC challenging for promotion or on a good cup run.

Winners are not always bright eyed bushy tailed Sunday school students....

A bit of semi controlled aggression makes the world go around.

The club has suggested that they now understand him and will give him support....so, lets just hope and see.  

convicted or not

 The worst thing about the TEF atm, is that more seem to be prepared to slag off Graham Turner, a man who has a record of keeping lower league football going in the border regions of England for the the last 30+ years, rather than Ranger. You reap what you sow.

LOUD NOISES!!

Pol Pot, anyone?

What about a Viking? you get pillaging thrown in for free.

Over to you SY...........

Has he done that as well? That wasn't mentioned on Wikipedia ???

I'm disappointed. I was expecting a full on meltdown whereas these past 10 pages are all a bit tame really.

Come on TEF. Put in some fucking effort.

The litmus  test is basically how would you feel if it was your sister/girlfriend/daughter/ (hopefully not the same person) that was the alledged victim? We would all think it was a terrible that the club were prepared to offer him a contract. But as I assume none of our fans know the woman inquestion, we let it go as we are all basically hypocritical in issues like this.

Most footballers are twats. He is a clearly a premier leauge twat. If he raped someone he will go to prison and rightly so. Never went for the whole "role model" to kids bollocks we hear about players, they are self centred greedy cheats for the most part, nevertheless not the smartest of PR excercises  for our "community club" to sign someone shortly going on trial for rape.

if the worst thing we do is slag off a guy who has slagged us off many times before then we aint doing too badly are we.

If he ends up coming on as a sub today and scoring the winner i bet turner will go into a rant about the british judicial system

I think the rape charge is mainly being treated as innocent until proven guilty. Quite right too. IF he gets convicted then he and the club deserve all the shit in the world heaped upon them.

A fair few people have made the assumption the rape charge is the basis for objections in signing him. But it shouldn't be.

It should be an example of one of numerous incidents involving Ranger that have occurred not just once, but multiple times over what seems to be ever since he laced a pair of boots. His past isn't just being a bit of a cock, its far far far worse than that. Jed talks about a second chance, this has to be seventh or eighth.

If he really stays squeaky clean. Turns up to training on time all the time. Has the same work ethic as the others and stays out of trouble then Jed will have got it just about right. We'll see.

I wish we hadn't signed him.

He has a poor goal scoring record, a (very) bad attitude in his personal life that may be disruptive to the club and an arrogant attitude as a professional footballer (persistently turning up late to training) that won't have been positive to team spirit.

That said, we have signed him.

If he scores goals, does the training, is not convicted and helps STFC with its charity work, I won't give a XXXX about his past.

Good luck son and welcome.

I think that's a fair assessment Batch.

WRT the rape charge (there's an awful lot of people playing judge and jury and assuming  'guilty until proven innocent'), all the snippets I've read say it took place in a hotel apart from Wikipedia which says it took place in a hotel room.

If that's the case (i.e she went back to the room of her own free will - why would you do that??), there's an awful lot more to the case than what anyone here knows (and no, I'm not saying she was 'asking for it'). In any event, wherever it took place, there's more to it than any of us can possibly know. I don't agree that the Club should get a load of shit if he's found guilty, they're assuming innocence which is quite right. If he is found guilty then he's gone - end of story.

And yes, this does look like his 6th/7th/8th chance rather than just the 2nd. But maybe, just maybe, he finally realises that he's drinking in the Last Chance Saloon (maybe an unfortunate choice of words given his 'previous') and he's going to sort himself out - it can and does happen. If not, the minute he steps out of line by even a millimeter, the Club presumably can and will cancel his contract.

I'm the same opinion as redrag, and i'm pretty sure if the club thought it was cast iron he was guilty, they wouldn't have signed him. He's young he's not been clever, most people at some point in their life if they are living on the edge of normal social behaviour have a light bulb moment, hopefully this will be his.

Sorry to pick on your post, but I disagree.

1. Opportunity for club to get good PR trying to reform a bad lad.
2. If he goes down for rape then we lose nothing
3. If he gets suspended sentence we get press for rehab.
4. If he scores lots of goals we do well.
5. If he does 4 then his value increases and we get big sell on.
6. If he's a flop we drop him like a stone & he's out of football

The guy sounds like a complete nightmare - so I presume he must be regarded by the club as a brilliant prospect. Looking at his playing record I can`t see that is immediately apparent.
Don`t really see the logic behind the decision to sign him. You would have thought there were other suitable alternatives to the striker needed problem. Unless of course he is paying us to play.
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Might as well go for Marlon King then.

Suspended sentence for rape?

So what. Where do we draw the line. If we're going to take the moral high ground of second chances ( or 8th or 9th chances ) then nobody should be unacceptable if our motives are pure. 
Now I'm sober I'm quite happy to say that Ranger is a totally loathesome little cunt who I want nowhere near my team. If he's found innocent of the rape charge he's still a loathesome little cunt who I want nowhere near my team. If he is found guilty then a great shame will attach itself to STFC.

Sorry, but which  part of my post were you disagreeing with?

He's going to end up somewhere, and I don't mean specifically a football club.

If he is, indeed, a loathsome individual, why should being at a football club be any different to him getting a job in a Tesco warehouse or an office somewhere.

Why do some football fans think their club is above all of this.

If he does his job, fine. If he does not he will be out - whether that is STFC or Tesco

The winner. Best by far.

Why to STFC? Because they didn't prejudge like so many others on here?

PDC was hardly squeaky clean as well yet was welcomed here chalkies.

Putting all the criminal lark to one side, I asked this earlier and will do so again.

Those who are claiming he could be a cut above and it's a risk worth taking - how have you come to this conclusion? 4 (I think) professional goals in 5 seasons. Are you quite sure this screams 'potential top scorer?'

His 3 goals in 50 odd appearances for Newcastle is slightly misleading as 46 of those were substitute appearances, likely to be 4 or 5 minutes at the end of games so I think a little harsh to judge that record.

I don't get people using the Rape charge as some sort of reason as to why the club will be dragged through the dirt?  If he had already been our player at the time of the alleged incident, then he would continue to be employed by and play for the club while on bail.  Just as anyone would remain in employment until such time as they are convicted of an offence.  

Also, I think people are getting a little over sensitive about just how this will play out in terms of impact to the club.  Are Sheff Utd currently vilified by footballing world?

Yes, if convicted, he'll be dropped like a stone.  We will condemn the actions, there will some reports on Sky for a day or so and we will all agree he deserves whatever is coming to him.  But, do not think for one minute it will place a lasting stain on the club.

I think any argument about whether we should sign him should be limited to:

Is he good enough - at some point in his career he was deemed a very exciting prospect.  In fact I remember some outrage that our board at the time did not pull their finger out and offer him a contract quickly enough, so we lost him to Newcastle.  He was certainly rated by them as a player likely to attract 7 figure bids in the future.  On the flip side, he's not got on the pitch stats to back any of that up as yet.

Does his previous behaviour make him a good fit - I'd say not.  I'd prefer not to sign him based on his known record, just like I wouldn't want us to sign Hughes or King.  I also realise this is a personal opinion and it won't effect my support of the club because just like out in the real world, people convicted of crimes do gain employment once released, eventually.  What would the world be like if they were not allowed?  I once argued against us looking to sign a convicted player, might have been McCormick because I felt that the big difference to other businesses was that players just seemed to walk in at the level they left and other ex-convicts would struggle to do that and I thought that was fair enough given they chose to break the law.  This is a little different I suppose in that he is feeling some effects by dropping several levels and loads of money.

Oh and finally, if abusing Turner means I'm supporting the demise of border football, great.  After visiting the places in question I am happy for Hereford and Shrewsbury to struggle for eternity.

Not treating all the off field antics at all lightly but my take on the whole signing is I am not convinced by anything that his record shows as pointing to him being that good.

Quite prepared to eat humble pie if he turns out to be a goal machine that leads the forward line well and turns out to be a brilliant catch, as usual only time will tell.

 :hmmm:

Daddy, Daddy can I have a tattoo on my face for Christmas and be a rapist when I grow up! Family club my arse.

Sorry, quoted wrong post.

Trying to multi-task - Not working well.

Bottom line: We've got him. He might be a horrible little shit, but he's our horrible little shit. Lets hope he bangs in some goals, increases his value significantly, improves our league position and then either:
a. Reforms completely
b. Fucks off with us rubbing our hands together! :-)

Not critizing or 'owt but I don't get this family club stuff.

What makes us a family club? What do we do different to other clubs in this particular area to make us stand out?

Even if he scores 20 goals and gets us promotion he's still a loathesome little cunt I want nowhere near my club.

By association, he's going to be Swindon Town's Nile Ranger if he goes down. Fair or not that's the way it will be. And in all honesty we will have employed him in the knowledge this could happen. Lets hope not. I doubt the backlash will be that bad towards STFC on a national level.

As for the 'club must think he's innocent if they are employing him'. I think that its highly unlikely they have taken any other approach than innocent until proven guilty.

Still could backfire with any further trouble, could destabilise a young squad, we'll see.

Bad publicity, plus personally I'd feel very uneasy some of my season ticket  money paid a rapist.

He's either innocent or going down.

Yes,  this is the upside if everything goes perfectly and he takes his chance.

He's on a years contract. Will we get a fee due to his age?

Agreed.

Forget Nile Ranger....who wants to support a family club? Not me thanks....a modern invention to milk more money from fans....fuck off....

Wikipedia is never wrong, and I suppose the long list of problems shown for Kemo Sabe seems pretty damning, doesn't it. But reading the reports on the beeb about the rape accusation, it says a woman complained of being raped at a hotel. At a hotel? Not in the park, or in a back alley, or on Mannington rec, but in a hotel. (A hotel is a place that has rooms with beds in them, mainly but not always for sleeping). (The Sun says "Ranger’s alleged victim claims she was attacked at a budget hotel in Jesmond, Newcastle." Not even a real hotel.)

Add to this the abnormally high energy levels of 22 year-olds, and their natural testosterone, the "rape" claim seems to be more like a case of someone trying it on and then having a change of mind. I'm not a lawyer, but he should get off, we get a few goals, and make a profit on a transfer fee if he keeps his nose clean.

He does seem to be a real dork though.....

That is quite an assumption to make. I accept the innocent until proven guilty argument, but there is a consistent thread of trouble around Ranger, whether that is a lack of respect, professionalism or a way of living that involves regular brushes with the law. He has had a second chance, post Southampton and Feltham. He has had 3rd, 4th and 5th chances at Newcastle. I'm very dissapointed he'll be wearing our shirt, but hope for him and for us that his days of trouble are behind him. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that he will change though.

If he's not guilty of the rape charge, gets his act together here and knuckles down and plays well for us I will be more than happy.

Can't really understand why Jed would sign him if he doesn't like criticism, it will be coming from all angles right now. Perhaps he was willing to stomach it, but I hope he doesn't whinge when he does get it.

Could turn out to be a really good signing. I'd imagine he's quite cheap, especially for someone who's been released from a Premiership club.

It's fairly clear that Jed enjoys the attention his role gives him.  I'm not sure he's particularly bothered whether it's negative or positive just as long as he's at the centre of it.  Next week's attention will shift to the confirmation of the managerial appointment and no doubt they'll be something else the week after that.

Fuck me I thought the dinosaurs had died out.

The defence of "it cant be Rape as it was in a hotel room" might prove to be unsuccessful.

The club are within their rights to sign him.

I wish they hadn't. Current charge put to one side, this lad is trouble and I don't want any of my money ending up in his pocket. He has his fucking name tatooed on his face for fucks sake.

Edit: I've done some research and he has four league goals in 64 games, and more criminal convictions than career goals. Fucking splendid.

I assume he is being paid peanuts as it's stated that he has taken a big cut to play for us and he was only on £3.5k a week at Newcastle.

In one article it stated he was on £7k a week at Newcastle.

Suppose depends which article you believe, I think the one I read was from December 2012 and suggested a weeks wage fine was £3.5k?  puts into perspective what we were paying someone of our players last year.

Don't understand the whole community/family club thing we are owned by people with no links to the community,  have few players with links to the community.  I suppose that our one opportunity is to bring football to the community but if that is the opportunity to engage and encourage the value of football then possibly employing a manager who has previously assaulted a referee wasn't the best approach.

Sorry Ranger is a state and comes across as a twat but some of the comments and outrage seem a little sanctimonious.

About the going rate for a Premiership reserve team player,wouldn't suprise me one bit.
Probably got a juicy handshake on his early release from his contract also.

blaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

Have I missed something here? You mean that for all those years when I was single and spending shed loads going in to nightclubs,buying women drinks in the hope a one would sleep with me I could have actually skipped a couple of levels and just gone to a hotel because if a woman is in a hotel she's already up for it with whoever walks in through the door? Wow, that's amazing!

The other thing I find amazing is that sometimes when I was in a nightclub is that I'd fancy girl A but she'd be with her mate, girl B, who was a bit of a minger and if girl A wasn't up for it I'd use girl be as 'compensation' but, if girl B was a real minger (or there was a C ,D or F mate) I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.  Now, if the roles were reversed and the girl was happy to sleep with player A who was also in the hotel and, some how at the end of the night, only player left was player Z (a reserve team player on shit wages who can't hit a barn door with a banjo) she might actually say No'

Doesn't relate to this case or justify rape but how stupid can girls be? It's horrible to say but this sort of story is in the news consistently.

I think a lot of people are under estimating how hard  it is for the police to actually bring a case like this to court.

It really does have to be a strong case....with real evidence otherwise it wouldn't have gone this far.

Will be up to the jury to decide if that evidence is strong enough.

If he is found guilty its goodbye for a fair while i reckon...only got to look at Ched Evans to see what he may recieve.
Personally i cannot see how a footballer can give his all to a team with this overhanging him,which is why i believe it is a poor signing......nothing to do with his past record etc.
Playing football these days is tough enough without all that extra baggage.

There are lots of stupid girls who sadly find out the hard way about lifes ups and downs(no pun intended)
There are lots of stupid boys/men also......we have signed one without a doubt.

Let's be honest, here.

We've probably all had sex with someone who we knew wasn't too keen on the idea but it went ahead anyway.

Just ask Mrs Kerry Red!

Lets all just back away slowly

This guy was the best player on the pitch yesterday. By a country mile.

Wow

Try doing a normal job with the potential of a court case hanging over you. Unless you really do not give a shit (I suspect Nile Ranger could not care less, doesn't come much more arrogant a stunt than having your own name tattooed on your loaf) there is no way I could give 100% to my employers when I had the possibility hanging over my head a number of years back. I couldn't eat or sleep properly.

Adam Reach was pretty damn good and so was Asanti but he was very impressive considering how little time he had and being devoid of match practice.

What the fuck?

Yes my mistake. I meant Ranger was our best player.
Most of the Shrewsbury team was better than anything we had on the day.

I think some of you have had their chuckle glands removed.

It was tongue in cheek, guys.

Nowhere else, just the cheek

Best not to assume that your actions are replicated by everyone else...

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Yeah, raping women, what a chuckle.

Cunt.

Some right touchy, precious fuckers on here lately.

Completely agree. Your missus is a frigid bitch.

Nah, she was quite happy to do it with me! :-)

(Joking, honest! I don't know her...but I'm sure she's a lovely lady and well out of my league...Not that I'd try it on you understand...I'll get my coat!)

I agree with that.

Actually that's not strictly true - arresting, charging and bringing someone to court is the easy bit... The hard bit is proving to the jury that the woman was raped... By which time the bloke has been pinched anyway...

Just curious, but what do you mean by 'pinched'? Is it copper lingo?

Arrested

Ah, cheers. I'm losing track of a lot of slang.

Should have actually said 'linched'...

which should actually be 'lynched', I presume Officer? :)

I am agreeing with Arriba far too often on here recently.  The days of 80% bollocks just for a laugh are gone, now the difference is that the 80% bollocks is actually stated as fact by 50% of the posters.

I don't post on here often, much less get wound up by what's on here usually, but the reaction to Rangers charge has really got my goat.

I don't know the full details, neither do any of us until the court case.

Yet we've had people suggesting because it was in a hotel it can't be rape, some childish chants glorfying his alleged crime at the game yesterday, and finally Kerry Reds 'joke' which I'm not sure entirely was in jest, and even if it was, it's in pretty poor taste.

FFS, there are some right precious feckers on here.

Who's joking about that - I was, obviously failing, to make a slight quip about sex within a relationship.

Just the other day I asked the misses if she wanted to pay a rape game. She said no.

'Good girl'. I said. 'That's the spirit'

Christ - here we go again.

My point was that I doubt if anyone in a relationship asks his/her partner every single time they have sex if they actually want to.

You take it for granted unless there is a 'headache' mentioned.

There was a time, not so long ago, when rape within marriage wasn't a crime at all.

So if any of you do, indeed, take it for granted what does that make you?

And before anyone takes offence, I'm not making that point to anyone in particular

I was telling a joke myself you tool.

No need to defend yourself kerry red. I got the implicitness of the joke.

Had a giggle at Flashheart's too. Good work.

This may seem a bit radical, but how about we all wait until this comes to court and the verdict is announced.

that isn't the way the internet works though is it.  i could accuse any of you of whatever i wanted and with enough people believing it it would soon become 'true'

Fuck that. Joke,be serious,say what the fuck you like. If people don't like it then who gives a shit?

Quite true - until they work out who Kinky Tom is and you lose your fingers!!

JOKE ALERT! JOKE ALERT!

True, but linched is what I have written in my pocket book and my pocket book only contains the truth (albeit spelt badly)

This used to be the place that if you were offended by pretty poor taste, you either didn't register or didn't read threads that were likely to offend you.  This whole subject is pretty close to home with somebody in my close family, I could get offended, or I could realise that this is a football forum that is 80% bollocks and is here for a bit of debate and light hearted banter

If I wanted to discuss more serious issues and get offended by a forum I would join more serious ones than this.  I choose to post on here because of the 80% bollocks, and I am sure there have been far worse LNT's in the past that people have posted far worse in and are now disgusted by what is being posted in this one.

We welcome new members by calling them Cunts FFS.

This thread needs more jayohaitchenn and DMR to balance out the bollocks/serious ratio.

Strictly it is true....for every reported rape that gets to court...another reported rape will not due to lack of evidence.
So as i say the police must have good evidence of a crime like this for it to reach a court room.

Agreed.

Granted, there has to be evidence to support the charge but the prima facie evidence in rape is that sex took place and that it wasn't consensual... So, if both parties agree sex took place and a woman states it wasn't consensual then in theory there is sufficient evidence to charge but maybe insufficient evidence to convict - it is one persons word against another where it is unlikely that other witnesses would be present to corroborate either side of the story... The CPS make the decision, not the police and, regardless of the decision by the CPS, the person charged with rape is innocent until proven guilty because, as I have witnessed first hand during investigation, women, like men, do actually tell lies sometimes...

Rape is the most repugnant crime but so is being falsely accused of it and I don't know the facts of Rangers case but will base my views  on the outcome and not before...

Exactly, which is why names shouldn't become public until found guilty.  Whether guilty or not an accused rapist always gets a life sentence, whether behind bars or socially.

Maybe the previous form of the accused also had a lot to do with the decision to prosecute.

Erm, no. There is nothing in his previous that would suggest he was a rapist...

I know two people that were wrongly accused of rape.

One was fortunate in that he could prove his innocence immediately, the accuser (some random person) had no choice but to back down so everything stopped within 24 hours or so.

The other guy was not so fortunate and had his life torn apart. He lost his job and is even afraid to see his own daughter unless in a public place (The accuser was his ex-wife).

His previous would definitely suggest to some that he is more likely to be guilty of a crime, regardless of what that crime is.  However, I'm forgetting that the CPS are beyond reproach, never approach a situation with bias, or even make mistakes.  Like a guy I know who had consensual sex with a girl he was having an on/off relationship with, who it turned out had cried wolf in the past, and was charged with rape and made to live on the other side of the country.  I don't blame the girl for that one, I think she's probably a sandwich short of a picnic and I feel a bit sorry for her.  I blame the CPS and the local rag.

Like almost everything in life, it's not black or white, but more often grey.




disclaimer: I'm not even talking about Ranger here, just in general.  I'd rather we hadn't of signed him because he's a twat.

I've been avoiding this thread in case I offend any of the rape babies.

I said previous form, not previous allegations of rape. Amir explained it in more detail.

Go on, say something controversial.

I kind of get the point you are trying to make but it is a simplistic view.  A driver with convictions for speeding is more likely to lose his licence for speeding than some one with no speeding convictions - it's what we used to call 'form' or 'previous'I.e. lots of convictions for the same type of offence but strangely there are also offences linked through psychology for example a child who commits arson is also highly likely to go on to become a sexual offenders BUT most people commit crimes in channels, or areas of expertise (career criminals) - burglars, car thieves, armed blaggers, sex offenders etc. and these are normally top of the suspect list when a similar crime happens...

Don't worry, I got that first time round.

My girlfriend tried to stick a couple of fingers up my bum during sex once. Despite my resistance she still kept trying and eventually I had to forcibly stop her.

Was I anally raped?

No, but ask her to use some lube next time.

Return the favour. Simples as the snappy meerkat says.

I've never known anyone to actually perform a dirty Sanchez. Si Pie cold be the first.

 :) you learn something everyday.

It's probably all your fault

When she said 'Do you fancy a couple of fingers?' I bet you were expecting a Kit Kat

No, that's Bushey Boy and Twix's.

Haha i remember seeing him at notts county the day after. Walking like John Wayne

The Washbag's blog on Ranger included this excellent video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd76QqgcxaY

if he's found innocent and he sorts his head out a bit he's going to provide some great moments, a lower league balotelli.

maybe we should rip off the excellent chant city had.

And here's a lovely video of Nile buying some bread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQSBaZD4Wa8

He's not your bum he's a real person without a home.

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I'm fucking appalled nobody is taking this seriously. A crime was committed, yet somehow I brought it on myself and everyone else is making jokes about it.

you didn't take it at all, let alone seriously

Ohhh Nile Ranger, he's our striker
He's going downnnnn,
His own name on his face makes him look a stupid cunt,
If any bird says no to him he'll just give 'em the shunt..

OHHHHHHHHH NILE RANGERRRRRRRRRR

I take your point.

Mars bars never held the same allure for me after 'that' Marianne Faithful/Mick Jagger incident

You were asking for it, dressed like that. Bet you were in a hotel room too, weren't you? You dirty northern slag

If we get promoted, we should persuade him to get "S T" tattooed on his face just before his name.

He's a Tesco Value Balotelli.

:D

Could be anal rape as well as cunt rape.

Thought this might clear up his trial dates some people are confused, also didn't realise he has to live at his hoe in London as terms of his bail, so he must commute from London to training daily....
Former Newcastle United footballer Nile Ranger is to deny the rape charge he faces, a court was told today.

The 22-year-old striker is alleged to have carried out the sex attack at a hotel in Jesmond, Newcastle in January.

He appeared at the city’s crown court today where the case was adjourned.

He was told by Judge John Evans: “The next hearing for this matter will be on October 21, when you will be required to come back to court and enter your plea.

“Assuming you plead not guilty, as I understand you intend, it will be necessary for you to submit a defence statement, which your legal representatives will help you with, and you will be tried during the week of January 20 next year.”

Ranger, who spoke only to confirm his name, was granted conditional bail in the meantime.

One of the terms of his bail prevents him from entering Newcastle or anywhere else in the Northumbria Police force area.

He must not contact any prosecution witness and has to live at his home in Haringey, London.

He has also been ordered to surrender his passport.

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Don't think it was a typo !

I do wonder, IF he's aquitted, wether we'll keep him, didn't he only sign until the end of the season? If that's the case I'm sure a bigger club with bigger wages will come in for him as he's clearly able to play in a higher division...I suppose though, a lot rests on our successes throughout the season...

Hopefully he will either:

a. Do well and want to stay longer
b. Do well and get us a big fee when he leaves

Probably why we have gone for El Gabbas insurance for if/when he goes.

Two year deal i thought it was

Yeah, one year deal with an option for a second

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/townsignranger-996677.aspx

Quite sure it's 1 yr with an option for the club to extend.

Depends if the option if just if stfc wish to take it up or if Niall has to agree, to be fair so far he has been a good player and has kept his nose clean but a lot will depend on his court case and what happens.

Isn't he in court in October for something, is it his plea hearing ?

Such a clause would be completely redundant if the player can veto it by not agreeing. The decision on whether or not to extend will be solely up to the club.

And if the club activate and he wants away we get a fee
Simples

Unfortunately looks like the leopard hasn't changed his spots

Nope, never going to learn is he.

Get rid

Bin him off ASAP, dont care if it makes us a weaker side on the pitch.

Use his wages towards offering a decent deal for Ajose

This

He's just a complete cunt. Get rid, now.

Hopefully a long stretch in prison might make the clown assess his life.

Genuinely disappointed in this.

It actually looked like he'd changed his ways somewhat...wishful thinking that was.

Agree with others.

This can only have a negative effect on the changing room. Time to get rid.

Agree with this, by sounds of it Ranger probably knows he's heading to the slammer!

If you don't respect the club, the manager and your fellow employees then you can fuck off even if you are Lionel Messi.

Save the money and get a replacement in or sign Ajose full time.

Maybe another trip to the house of many cells is where he needs to go to learn a lesson I am afraid to say.

Fuck him. I'd rather have a less good committed player than one that turns up every now and again.

It certainly does make you wonder how good his defence is...

It seems as though he's gone off the rails (again) since he pleaded Not-Guilty.

That said, was he ever 'on the rails'?

I said when we signed him this was the most dumb signing Swindon had made in my memory. Then he won me over by playing well, putting in a shift and behaving himself immaculately on the pitch. Then the wheels start coming off.
Given that he missed training previously, he had got one more chance than he should have. Now this. How many chances are we going to give him?
Its a shame but he has to go.
I think it could also save us some negative PR if he is found guilty.

This is what's frustrating - from watching him until recently you wouldn't have a clue about his reputation/off field issues. Been a model pro between 3pm and 5pm on a Saturday. Clearly not right in the head still though, and after talking about taking his 'last chance' when he signed it seems he'll never learn.

He's always been shit, and I always knew he was guilty.

Just getting that in now... :-[

It's difficult for the likes of us to comprehend how a young man making a living playing pro football can piss it all away.

Everybody has their demons, I suppose.

Massive shame, sort it out Nile. Seems like a bit of cry for help judging his latest tweets.

Or he can finally see that his ship has sailed and left him behind. Too little too late it would appear, its not like he hasn't had warnings.

He'll be alright, he'll be first on Ian Wright's teamsheet if he does another series of Football Behind Bars... :wink:

And people are surprised??

No, not really!

No, just saddened.

A waste of talent- talent that I enjoyed watching.

Time for the PFA to step in and offer some help?

If he's as good as he is with a bad attitude and shit training, just imagine what he'd be like if he was a model professional.  Its very sad that we wont see the best of him and probably, no one else will either.  A waste of talent. 

Not buying this! He's found his level at L1.

This is pretty much how I felt initially and feel now.

This has been going on for weeks now and it's quite obvious nothing's going to improve as the trial gets nearer.  Get rid now, it's not fair on the rest of the team to keep giving somebody who clearly doesn't give a shit chance after chance.  Will save some money on the wage bill that can be used for a replacement.

He's a fool.  Would have looked better in court if he'd been the model citizen over the last few months.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Not sure about that, he has stiff competition from Ched Evans and DJ Campbell.

What a strikeforce!

Fuck, that would be scary....for a few reasons.

Were you not around for the Ruddock signing. ...

Good signing while it lasted.

Sell by date past now.

I reckon he's going to clink.

Move on....

Gabbas pen deserves a three year deal alone.

I've been around for signings going back quite a few years. Ruddock was a bad signing as he couldn't even get a contract at the Scum ( he was training with them when we signed him) and we took him on for 5k a week. 

What exactly is Ranger supposed to have done now? All I've seen is an allegation from Cooper that he has a bad attitude.

We knew he has been trouble in the past, we knew the court case was coming up, we were happy taking the risk as we were getting a decent player on the cheap as a result. If the only issue we've had is a bad attitude I'd say that's better than we could have hoped for when we signed him.

Must be stressful for him with the court case looming, especially if he's convinced he did no wrong but could still be looking at a 5 year sentence (or whatever) for it if found guilty.  I say cut him some slack. Tell him to take a break (unpaid), sort himself out and come back after the court case if found not guilty.

Apparently he's been turning up late for training.

Same MO that eventually made Newcastle give up on the useless twat. That was without a rape charge hanging over him.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-nile-ranger-barred-from-first-1384373

Leopards and spots...

Amongst all of the responses, this is probably the best idea for all parties.

He's not just going through a phase though is he? History points squarely at the fact that he's an out and out cunt.

What exactly has Ranger done ?

For starters, he "allegedly" raped someone.
That's enough in my eyes not to have signed him in the first place.
I never wanted him at the club, and even when he had his purple patch I never wanted him here.

I find it disturbing when people say " I didn't want a rapist here initially, but when he started scoring goals I was willing to put up with it"

Some things are bigger than football, some people need to grow up a bit.

The key words are " done now"   No reason what so ever for that rant.

Fact is the guys a serial fuck up undeserving of being paid by our club. He taking us all for mugs, including Power, the manager and his team mates. Again and again.

Shame because if he could be less of a cunt he'd be a good player, as we've seen.

I find it disturbing that some people don't understand what innocent until proven guilty means.

People are on about him missing training, not the fact he got his dick wet

Exactly, the rape charge is completely separate. Its not turning up to do what he is paid to do that's the issue.

And no preparing for his rape trial is not an excuse.  You just have to see how he was at Newcastle to understand why no slack should be given.

It is.

And it was that way on here until NBR bought it up. Jonny was only responding to NBR's rant.

So, lets ask the question again, but in a slightly different way:

Does anyone know 'specifically' what Ranger has done 'this time' in order to anger Cooper?

I didn't see this. Is this fact or assumption?

You are.

I'm not talking about missing training, you're right, getting his dick wet as you lovingly put it, is possibly worse than missing training.


You misogynistic arse

Misogynistic? Predujiced against women?

Yeah alright then

I'm not a misogynist! I like to put women on a pedestal....That way I can look up their skirt!

Anyway, before we go back to name calling, do we know for sure that Cooper is pissed off with Ranger because he has been coming in late, or are we just making assumptions?

Just Google Niall Ranger to see what a complete bell-end he is, Cooper said that he (ranger)had to respect his team mates so we can draw our own conclusions but I would rather we didn't go back to the divided dressing room we had under Wilson and if that's what he's doing,then get rid.

Wasn't Cooper quoted as saying 'he doesn't respect the other players' etc...

Surely that alone is bad for the morale.

This thread is getting personal now...it's quite amusing.

who the fuck is Niall Ranger?

No. But if he's prepared to drop our best forward who he himself has acknowledged is of fundamental importance to the way we play then I'm confident enough that there's probably a good reason for it.

When I saw this thread was active again I though he was the bloke signing at Mandela's funeral

Shagged Cooper's missus by the way some people are going on. Love a good over reaction Swindon fans.

I think you'll find it was fods Mrs

which bit did you find OTT?

Really?

Allegedly yeah...was told by someone who isnt exactly 'in the know' but not the kind of bloke to make that shit up

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

If we are going to spread rumours could we at least make them original? Players shagging other player's/manager's wives has been done too many times already!

Dont know if true or not but was all over twitter this morning .
Not even sure where it started

Why on earth is is he still on our books?
The get rid status has been and gone long ago. TWAT!!!

I'm guessing the club don't make hiring and firing decisions based on what they read on Twitter.

Well the Adver seem confident he can't be arsed to turn up to training on time.

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/sport/10875683.Ranger_dropped_and_told_to_improve_behaviour/?ref=var_0


If he can't be arsed, he should be gone. No point in keeping him if he isn't gong to turn up.

Missed him today......shame.....I don't rate cooper right at the minute but he doesn't have much choice if the cunt doesn't turn up.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

The rape trial is irrelevant - he signed with that aspect looming over him and, without it, I expect he would have signed for a Championship side. Cooper has his reasons which none of us know, so noneof us are in a position to comment without being prejudiced.

Football is a sick game. The money is difficult for some players to handle and, whilst it's hard to have sympathy, few of us in here are fortunate enough to relate.

Personally, I'm not one for signing players with controversy hanging over their head but we did, he joined, and had a good start. I don't recall many mentioning the chequered past when he was scoring.

Seems he is the one using the trial as an excuse for not bothering to put about 6 hours work in a week on the footy pitch....not us the fans,we mention in when he decides to use it as an excuse.

Fucking pathetic in my opinion.....if i was innocent of such a henious crime not only would i want to front up in court but i would want to front up on the training pitch and back the people who have given me a chance.....Swindon FC and there fans.

Let's not forget he was told to fuck off and leave the training ground by Lee Power

True but then Power and co fronted up to get him here,no one else wanted to give him that chance....understand that personal things can get in the way but turning up for training when you feel like it isn't going to do you any favours is it.
Sorry DRS but no one can excuse his behaviour in my opinion....shame because i believe he would have pissed player of the season on his apperances for us so far.

fuck off, hes been arrested 7 odd times, don't pull this innocent until proven guilty.

Not going to forget something we (I) didn't know.

When did this happen, and why. If it was after he kept turning up late I quite agree with Power. If there is more to it than that then what happened?

There was something mentioned about Power not happy with Ranger. Then all of a sudden Cooper started disciplining Ranger.

Quite what is going on I have no idea! Furthermore, I don't know whether DMR or other posters know anything either.

If they knew something they would have said.
This is simple in my eyes. Ranger was given some free time to sort himself out. If he is still playing up, drop him (as they seem to be doing), but also fine him (not sure if this is happening). If it continues, get rid of him. Now clearly that would be a shame (as he is good for us on the pitch).

I think we can safely assume DMR knows jack shit...and likes it that way.

At what point have I claimed to have inside knowledge?

Mistaken identity  :sherlock:

So is the picture in the other thread DMR?  :sherlock:

He was told to fuck off a while ago after Power wasnt happy with a performance. He has played up since

The only inside knowledge you've claimed, is the gynaecology of birds of dubious taste.

sounds out of order from power, but doesn't excuse Ranger.

Nothing dubious about them Reginald, bona fide horrors the lot of them.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

 Prime time coming up....bird I know, and no I wouldn't, was telling me her daughter had bought her a chlamydia test kit, as a stocking filler....useful for post festive shenanigans.

And that's something you're proud of?

Any holes a goal

I've said it before and I'll say it again, a drill's a drill.

Might as well improve one's tekkers on some monsters in preperation for meeting a nice young lady.

Sam, what are you doing in your avatar? ???

Teabagging your drumset.

Nile's latest tweets are very upbeat!

What's he said??

Happy to see another day.......Thank the up most high


Sometimes to succeed and reach all goals.....u have to drop out things u don't really want to!!  Jahkno


Positive thinking from this day on  !!!

So he's been released then :)

I almost wrote that at the end of my post actually!

Wouldn't surprise me if he had been.

I keep thinking there's a joke in here somewhere, about Japanese super heroes

Vile Nile you have disappointed me greatly. I even got your name on the back of my shirt to start some controversy, so alas, our relationship is over.

There is no doubt, in my opinion, when Nile plays properly the whole team plays well, he is the best no. 9 in this division, holds the ball up and brings other players into the game.  We need to sign another old fashioned Ranger-type forward in January if he is not going to be playing.

Dont think there are many strikers due in court Ron

Keep polishing that fire engine Tans!!

Is Nile Ranger an old fashioned centre forward in the same way that Jimmy Saville was an old fashioned DJ ?

Is he still with us or what?

I seen him driving about town today, you can't miss his car.

He plays. He plays!

Been a good boy for a week.

Jeez, how desperate are we?

:)

Nile Strange-r

So, just what does he find that is so irresistible that he can't be arsed to turn up for training on a regular basis.

I really can't comprehend it

When's his trial date?

17th Jan I believe.

He'll probably turn up for training that day!

He's just tweeted 'here we go again. Car written off. On Xmas day. Some people just can't drive'

Extreme way to get out of training.

Let's hope nobody was injured ...

He didn't seem on it today.....

Tick tock tick tock.....

Maybe I'm being naive, but if he was involved in some sort of road traffic incident this morning it might go some way to explaining his lack of form this afternoon.  Different player to the one I saw on Saturday.

Didnt turn up again for training.

FUCK OFF you ungrateful cunt

If that is true then as far as i am concerned he has got to go.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/10901722.Ranger_wasting_his_talent_as_he_misses_training_again/

Enough is in is case enough
I know we are a different team with him in but its not all about him is it

See ya dickhead waster

"He's probably had a lie in"

I like deadpan Cooper.

Probably been arrested for drink driving after writing the car off ;)

Should have got rid the last time he went AWOL, he knows he can get away with it now

Shouldn't have made this public. Won't be able to sell now.

We are going to become a laughing stock if we don't get rid and get rid now.

Enjoy prison you tattoo-headed clown!

 :D

Never would have been able to sell him, better to make the fans aware of this now, rather than not see his name on the team sheet on Sunday!

Fair point Ronnie, we'd all be thinking 'what's he done now' anyway.

Agreed!

I guess Mr Ranger will come out with the old excuse of; "why always me", of which the obvious answer is; "what's the common dominator?"

I wonder how much he is on pw here for him to take the utter piss?

Cant imagine its as much as Paolos remnants
But a bloody site more than I earn a week thats for sure

Can you imagine Paolo in charge of ranger. He'd have lasted less time than Clarke. At least Clarke turned up, even if he didn't run.

The galling thing is that ranger could be three times as good as clark if he wasn't such a horses' helmet.

I kind of understood the whole thing with him not talking to the media, or talking to the media as and when he or his representatives saw fit, but disrespecting our club over and over again is becoming a little nauseating.

I would rather have an ageing Paul Benson back at the club, there is no doubt Ranger has a talent as have so many had before him and still failed miserably, and many more of the same breed will do the same in the future.

Thanks for the contribution Nile and fair play to McRory/Power for bringing him to the club with the right intentions. Project 'handle with care' doesn't seem to be working so lets move on.

FFS....I'm glad Cooper has gone public...if he was going to play like he did v Bees he won't be missed anyway.....

Farewell and goodbye....

Good bit of biz by the town IMO but past it's sell by date now....cut loose!!

I hope they given him a written warning by now? Surely we can sack him and not have to pay him off?

He's just a shit Clayton Donaldson

He probably wouldnt be able to read it anyway

I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere that there's something in his contract about turning up.

And if he doesn't turn up for training he doesn't get paid.

I could have made that up though...

There is definitely a get-out clause if he goes to serve time at her maj's pleasure!!

Heard that club have now officially suspended Ranger.

Power has had enough and they now dont have to pay his wages while he's suspended. Will move him on ASAP.

Anyone else heard this?

Nope
Jed been spouting off re Pritch and Ajose as having already gone but he not mentioned Ranger
Obv he ITK  ::)

It's the logical outcome if true

Ajose I can believe - we obviously aren't going to stump up any cash for him. Pritchard, however, unless Jed has been informed (by Spurs....) that an offer has been accepted and Pritchard has agreed terms then I would guess he knows shit all. Like the rest of us, he's just speculating.

Having said that, and judging on recent performances, I would imagine there are a few Championship clubs ready to put an offer in for him. Whether they'll offer what Spurs want is another matter. As is whether Spurs want to sell him. They may have seen his performances and decided that they might want to keep him, in which case the best place for him for the next five months or so is Swindon.

I think it's a fair bet that Ranger will definitely be offloaded though. Which could mean that money should be available for a replacement. Could be Ajose, if we can come up with a transfer fee. Which could be available if Wes is sold. It's all ifs and buts though.

Very true tho according to adver article the other day Ajose's loan ends after the Crawley game


http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10902461.Don_t_encourage_Wells__warns_Ajose/?ref=rss

Yet Jed saying he already gone


EDIT

Ajose recall confirmed by Sam


Now that sucks - can only think Posh have another loan worked out for him or a buyer.
Cant see his future here if they pull him back a game early

Might be a bit light up front now

Peterborough have just sold a striker to west ham so will most likely use ajose for a few weeks at least. Marlon king is now a free agent, one twat out one twat in now Niles gone?

Jaanai Gordon only played 3 times this season, he was rarely in their first team squad so I doubt Ajose going back has any bearing on it TBH.

There appears to be rumblings over the interweb that he may not be off after all.

If he does stay then this would surely be his really, really really, really, really, really, really, really last chance?

What is it with West Ham signing players who can't get into League One sides to help them stay in the Prem?

Hmm..Power isn't stupid, he knows that he would have to spend decent money to get a replacement of a similar standard but I don't think this is going to happen - we may well lose him for certain after his trial anyway.

Knowing our luck its probably written into his contract that if he goes down we keep paying him for the length of the sentence ;)

I must admit, it seems a bit silly to cancel his contract/kick him out or do whatever so close to his trial. Presumably, if he is found guilty the contract will cease anyway. If he is innocent, he suddenly becomes saleable (if we don't want him). Personally, if I were in charge, I would delay and see what happened.

I can't see him being a sale-able asset right now even if he is found innocent.

Who'd spend money on a player that is considered unlikely to even bother turning up to training?

His contract is null and void if found guilty and jailed, at least that is what Jed said!!!

Someone who believes that he can change him or that he is worth a small punt. Ranger, or his agent, would be even more desperate than he/they were when they accepted Swindon's offer, so it wouldn't cost someone much.

Kidderminster :)

This wasn't wasted on me either, he could get cuddles and kicks there.

Starts today I reckon

@BBCWiltshire: FOOTBALL: #stfc Nile Ranger's rape trial has been rescheduled for the 24th February. He denies the charge. #swindon

Lack of evidence maybe? I dont know

More likely the legal service is grinding to a halt in protest against Tory cuts and privatisations...

Good news.

Nile Ranger misses training today and could be out of Saturday's game.

link?

Due to sickness rather than not turning up.

Sam just posted on twitter that he did turn up at the CG today  :hmmm:

Though did miss training with illness

I know, thought I would leave that bit out! :)

There is something on the adver site about it and there is an article about Troy impressing in training as well.

I would guess the arrett's kicked in..