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The opponent:  Brentford, Part 2

A thought has just occurred to me. This could be my final outing (thank god I hear you say). I hope its not. Its not just the urge to want to give some polite Asian chap £20 to use his driveway for 4 hours, or even the desperation I feel to part with the equivalent of the Greek national debt for a shit hot dog and a gallon of flat coke, or even the love of getting round some of the M25 and only giving the finger to fellow road users at least 5 times. Quite simply I would love to do a Wembley thread. This season promised so much, it always seemed we would come good when it mattered, at times our climb up this league was reminiscent of the previous season. Then along came January and things went tits up. The snipers that had been waiting for our downfall thought this was the chance they had been waiting for, but we are still here. Fuck everyone else, the petty Tranmere/Shrewsbury fans, the oddbods of Bournemouth,  PNEThor, the Banbury Massive (not you Duke), fuck ‘em all! If any fans deserve a day under the arch this season then its us. Yes, I may be rather biased, but we do. Wasn’t we found to be the 4th most stressful club in the football league to follow a few years back? I think that survey may well have been justified.
As I sit here looking at my crumpets, with just a dash of peanut butter upon them, I wonder how I will be feeling this time tomorrow night? I don’t want to be reeling out the excuses like we were never ready for The Championship anyway, I want to be travelling to some of the best grounds the country has to offer! I’m sure Brentford fans will be feeling the same, last week was as near as they have been to securing Championship football for a fair while, the disappointment for them of them falling at the very last hurdle can’t be underestimated. In the past, Brentford away has been a great away game to do, I really hope this one lives long in the memory for all the right reasons, and doesn’t end up being another Withdean.

What are they saying about us? –

“Lucky Lucky Brentford.

So disappointing going for the 0 - 0 and giving the momentum to Swindon.

The difference in play in the last 20 minutes after we went behind was stark, we actually started making a game of it.

Why o why couldn't we play that way all game? Only Swindon looked like they wanted to play football”

Read more: http://www.brentford.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2752&posts=25#ixzz2SSX1x800

 

Brentford Last 6 –  WWDLLD (Brentford finished 3rd on 79 points)

The Threat – If the lack of volume demonstrated by Bee’s fans on Saturday was anything to go by I would say the biggest threat might be dozing off during quiet periods of the game. Aside from that the easy to fall over striker Clayton Donaldson knows how to find the back of the net.

An Extra Warm Welcome To – Mark Devlin. Came to our club at one of the most turbulent times in our recent history and seemed a genuine chap that loves football. Good luck to you Mr Devlin, after today.

The irrelevant stats – After Saturday’s draw Brentford have now failed to win in their last 4 outings, if they could stretch that to 1 more game then I and a few thousand others would possibly be grateful 

Head to Head – In 77 league encounters, we have won 31, drawn 19 and lost 27. That didn’t take much changing really.

The Odds – Brentford 11/10   Draw 12/5   Swindon  12/5  We have not seen many odds like that for us this season, on that basis alone it has to be worth a few bob. I quite like the idea of Draw/Swindon in the half time/fulltime bet, 7/1 with Skybet.

The Son Says – My wife said she found him talking to himself on Saturday morning in the living room in a “strange” way! When questioned he said it was down to him being worried about the football later in the day. He is starting to feel the pain. He has gone for a 2-1 victory and for mum not to drive to Wembley again.
 
The Prediction – This has to be the toughest one for me to predict, heart and head are battling away, I have pondered for hours, desperate for a tight victory, but respect due to Brentford, they are a decent team that nearly got automatic promotion on the last day of the season. 4-0 Town. Rooney Hatrick, Flint with the other.

And Finally –  If this is the last matchday thread I have the honour of starting then can I thank you for listening to my ramblings for the best part of a season and I wish you all a pleasant and enjoyable 3 months off.

COYR COYR COYR COYR COYR COYR COYR COYR COYR COYR

We'll win this 2-0

If we win, I vote for Shaw Rosso to continue next season, whatever happens at Wembley. Always been a pleasure to read his matchday threads.

If we lose mind (we shouldn't lose. I keep telling myself that in the hope I'll believe it), you can fuck right off SR. In the nicest possible way.

Mind you, if we win tomorrow and then win at Wembley, perhaps some award is in order akin to Suggs'? Not that I'm getting ahead of myself or anything.

1-2 pounding tomorrow. Donaldson diving penalty and Ward and Williams

Our season ends tomorrow, I'm sure of it.  Obviously, it's not what I want, but it's what I think will happen.

Brilliant (as ever) matchday thread-starter, Rosso.

I think we'll sneak it.

On pens.

Fingers crossed:-)

I think you mean our season ends today.

We've the answers from the Board to look forward to tomorrow

Shaw, I do hope that you continue next season what ever the outcome tomorrow, been a pleasure to read your summations and i think a lot of others think and feel the same way. Rosso Rules  :D

I expect today will signal the end of our season. Hope I am wrong.

I've got a good feeling about this.  2-1 Swindon COYR

We're gonna win on pens

We'll win on pens and K-Mac will knee-slide across the turf in his pants.

Oh fuck....I only just recovered from Saturday....here we go again.

Let's sneak it....please!!!

I'm going for HT SWINDON/FT DRAW and we sneak it on pens

I feel so sorry for your son Rosso. He's clearly going through that transitional period from casual to full time fan. Where results worry you, ocassionally affect your sleep and makes you miserable long after a poor one. I'm in the midst of indoctrinating my 4 year old. I feel guilty but I don't see why he should get away with it!

As for on the pitch, I just don't think we have the players for it. Seems strange after we looked so decent at the start of the season but Ferry is completely wasted on the wing, Williams is a shadow of his early season self, no Ritchie or Thompson means nothing goes down the right. I'm not very expectant, just hope for a battle and some good news re the ownership of the club in the close season. 

We're having this! We'll out play them again and nick it by a goal.

Its going to be tough, advantage Brentford but nothing more. In Division 4 Bradford won at Burton - who must have one of the best home records in the league. And Northampton won at Cheltenham - Northampton had the second worst away record in the league.

No bearing on our game other than to show home and away form mean little in this type of game.

We can do this.

If we win this can the Adver run an "unstung hero" sub headline please. ta.

I think we're going to win.

Watching this one is not going to be fun, but I have a few 'lucky' bottles of cider purchased yesterday from the Swindon Cider Company.

Thanks for the matchday threads this season Shaw Rosso I have enjoyed them hugely.

Todays is the best, it says it exactly as I feel, well done.

Fingers and toes and bollocks crossed for a result today to make sure you get one more matchday thread, but if we don't then its not the end of the world.

Thanks again......really up for the game today and wish I was with the travelling Town fans and not up here in Edinburgh.

C O Y R !!!!

Have to be the laptop today. So I'll find someone streaming the game.

After Saturday quietly confident about today

C O Y R!!!!

A win would be nice. Obviously.

yyyyyooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeedddddddddsssss.

I'm shitting it. No idea what to expect, based on their home form there should really only be one winner but all the pressure is on them so you never know, especially in the play offs.

I hope we don't go too negative and try to sit back as they will pick us off, lets get at them and give it a right good go. C.O.Y.R!

0-1, Town.

Brentford to miss penalty in 94th minute with Town going down other end and scoring the winner.

Since beating us by a single goal in mid-March, they went on at home to beat Preston (finished 14th), Notts County (finished 12th) and Portsmouth (finished 24th) - again, all by a single goal - before losing to Doncaster.  That's hardly form to be scared of.  Best hope is that they start to believe the hype...just as some of our fans have.  Can only work in our favour.

If it's the same referee,we'll lose,otherwise 2-1 Town with a breakaway Storey winner

Had nightmares last night about the game. Only time a match has done that to me was the epic against Stoke in the cup.

I shall be wearing my colours proudly at Beaulieu today, fuck looking like a knob. We're going to go to Wembley again, I know it.

YOU REDS.

But they have only lost 3 at home all season. Going to be difficult but if we can keep it solid at then back then we have a chance.

When was the last time we lost when we were on the telly?

Doncaster, about 3 weeks ago  :)

ah yes...blows that thought away then....in that case it will be penalties...

Crumpets with peanut butter? Sounds intriguing.

2-1 to us, 3-2 on aggregate. Late winner from Collins.

Well done my man, I think that could be key.

What times everyone leaving then?

Getting the 11.21 train from Salisbury, which will get me into Brentford just after 1.00. Just want to get going now, it's the waiting that kills you.

Leaving at 1:30 - be in a pub in Ealing at 2:30 - 3 and then a couple of pints before wandering down to the stadium. Given the Brentford fans comments on Swindon and surrounding environs I expect to see neatly mowed lawns, white painted picket fences and fresh laundry hanging on the lines. But having been there a few times I expect to see something similar to Swindon, albeit even more ethnically diverse.
I'm cautiously optimistic which is most unusual for me.
A decent ref and keep Donaldson quiet and we're in with a good chance.

I'm going to stick to my guns seeing as I got the first bit right before.  Draw at ours, do them at theirs.

Leaving about half three get to TP's for 4ish

Getting the bus at 12.

From Norway? You'll never make it.

I've had a dreadful night's sleep with some very odd Swindon Town related dreams.  I've woken this morning feeling like my throat has razor blades down it.  Part of me just wants to stay in bed and pretend we have no game today.

However, I am going to Brentford, which unfortunately is not a good omen, as my away record is pretty poor.  I can't see us scoring more than one goal, which I don't think will be enough.  Our conceding of late goals in recent matches could be our undoing.  Really not very confident at all in case you hadn't worked that out.

On the other hand, this is the Play Offs and they don't always go to form.

Thanks Peter

I've got to stay sober today as I'm driving to Derby straight after the game, being sober at an away game is crap. 

Yes, no butter though or it all gets a bit sloppy. I will have Bovril on them tonight if we win.

I'll make it.

To the pub.

When did you get tickets CS?

Is it sit where you like if you have seat tickets?

I think we will win this 13-12 on pens.

And it won't even be slightly nerve wracking  ;)

Feeling slightly sick this morning. Same feeling I had in the first playoff we were in all those years ago. We were shite in the last month or so of the season and I thought we would get a right dicking by Wigan, who were a good side. I was shocked to get past them.

In the final, Gillingham also started to give us a footballing lesson. I was totally dejected that I thought after a great fightback we had lost on away goals. Imagine my delight to find out they didn't count and we were off to Selhurst park!

That is where the slightly sicky feeling came from. The whole day was a combination of excitement and sickness - The same as today.

Now, who is going to be the modern day Charlie Henry and who is going to be Steve White?

COYR!!

I bought tickets for the lords test match on 19th may without realising significance of the date, on that basis we will win and give me a ticketing dilemma.

True.  But they drew another 6, so they drew or lost nearly 40% of their home games this season.  We only need to draw.  Then do them on penalties.  This is ours for the taking.

First playoff game i haven't been to in 20 years and it just doesn't give me the same nervous anticipation when i know i'm going to be watching it on the box rather than in person.

1 goal wins it today

Not overly confident about this one I'm afraid! Think they will win 2-1 but a lot depends on the mentality of of the team and the tactics that Kmac deploys. We sit back and try soak up the pressure and we will lose. Attack em from the off, they are bound to be a bit nervous after their last home game.

Those that are going best sing their fucking hearts out.

I must have your nervous anticipation then!

My quandary today is that I have to go out for short period at 5pm, 6pm and 7.45pm. Not sure whether to record the game and watch it all tonight, or record and watch bits of it between ferrying the kids around!

Christ I'm excited by this! I hope we're not heading for an almighty crash, but I really think the team are going to be so angry about Saturday that they are going to show some balls and go out there and play Brentford off the park!

(But I also thought they would do that against Doncaster)

I got mine off a very nice bloke off of here who I think was being kind to the elderly. My daughter and mate got theirs when the sponsorship tickets were returned. They said there were 20 tickets returned but I think there were a lot more than that.
I hope you and your lad enjoy the game.

A quid on that could make you a nice return

Do people think we will see an unchanged starting line up?

You must be fucking loaded.

I looked for the Saturday at Trent Bridge and the cheapest was £170 - Christ knows what your Lords tickets cost!

It's a one off game, whoever wants it more wins it.

Hope it's us.

This is a personal favourite of mine too partly because I don't eat butter.

Crunchy or smooth?

I can't remember how much exactly I paid to watch us in 2008 against SA at Lords but it was nowhere near half that!

Crunchy only for me.

I want it ! I want it !

Such a shame that my knees are knackered, I'm unfit and overweight and shit at football, or I'd be out there bossing the game!

Yes I'm the same, although I have developed a liking for Sainsbury's own brand over Sun Pat recently.

I have just listened to Sit Down by James. Because of this we will be victorious.

We're gonna win.

I'd like 4-1 with Flinty scoring first (1000-1) please

Three years ago I was at The Valley for Charlton away. We expected little before the match and nothing when Greer decapitated Deon Burton and saw red. What came next was the best hour or so I've had following Swindon.

Let's hope for the same spirit today- although a very different final and following season. Whatever you think of Jed, KMac, that-other-guy-that-used-to-manage-us, the Trust, any mystery benefactor or Curly Withers, let's put that aside for 90 minutes (perhaps 120, perhaps penalties) and let's beat Douglas, Donaldson and the rest of the cheating, promotion bottling Bees.

Come on you Reds.

Escaping my Bank Holiday trip to North Wales to see at least one of the legs. On diverted train which has come to a standstill near Villa Park. Hope we make the 1414 arrival time at Euston.

1-2 this afternoon (I hope)

Away at work so will be following by TFE only. 2-0 to Town. We have outplayed them on 3 occasions this season and not won yet. Today will change all that.

Leaving in a few minutes. Nervous as fuck. Beer is the answer - need to calm the nerves and lubricate the voice.

we have a meeting at half four which I have had to duck out of...somethings in this life are just to important

Am I the only one who sees the irony in this?

I saw this screen over by stratton bank on sat. turns out this is the big screen.

Is that big enough?

https://twitter.com/BBCWiltshire/status/331381438727458817/photo/1

Hahahaha. That's pathetic

If you look at our record against Brentford this season we've had 75% more shots, shots on target and corners.

So it's about time we beat them and today will be the day.

That's shit, bet the dopey cunts have set it up so that the direction of the sun is shinning right on it as well.

Well, it's at the East end of the ground and the sun sets in the West...

Town End is the West end isn't it? ???

Anyone got a link to a site I can stream this from? Don't have sky... And can't go to the pub :-(

http://www.firstrow1.eu/sport/football.html never usually fails

Cheers for that. Presumably you've downloaded the desktop app and it's okay then?

Don't download anything! Just click the link for the game.

Roger that! Didn't like the look of the download prompt. Hopefully the link works in a 'few minutes' as it says :-)

Streams generally don't work until the match starts

OKey dokey. I'll try at the time then. I used to have a really good link which didn't have loads of adds and downloads on it. It simply listed every match that was being played on TV that day anywhere in the world. Stupidly I forgot to copy my favourites when I got a new laptop. Anyone know which one I mean?

Oh, they actually have put it up in front of the Bank.  Very odd.

Can this be put in the 4D q&a forum, it would fit in there fine  :)

Shining across to the east  :toocool:

Yeovil 2-0 up. Winners of our game massive favourites to go up IMO

wiziwig?

Good tip from the Washbag on Twitter for those who are stream-averse:

If you've not got SKY, you can watch the game for free via NowTV by registering for a free Skybet account https://www.skybet.com/secure/betting?action=GoAcctReg1&skin=bet …

Interesting that not one club has sold out so far in the play offs including L2. Perhaps its not just ticket prices?

Cmon Town! Yeovil in the final if we can get there

Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 13s
TOWN: Foderingham; Devera, Flint, Ward, Byrne; Ferry, Luongo, McCormack, Roberts; Rooney A, Williams

Unchanged first XI and bench.

You would think Yeovil have just won promotion with all the hullabaloo at Huish park.

Whether they get promoted or not, it's still one hell of an achievement for them.

And when you consider they sacked Wilson prior to the play-offs, it didn't work for Sheff Utd !!

Brentford make four changes including dropping Douglas and BWP. Trotta starts, very attacking line up.

COYR.

How unlucky can one team be - Sheff Utd must absolutely hate the play-offs... 7 times without success..!

Not unlucky. No bottle. They've got the biggest budget in this league, in which they never got beat until November. Towards the end of the season they ran out of steam, and the change of manager never really worked (except for the league game against us !!).

And they sold their best player in January- I hope that isn't a running theme.

Forgot that...but agreed.

I wonder how Mark Devlin is today?  Isn't he the CEO of Brentford?

Login Mark and let us know, I am sure he's not busy! :)

I think they've only got to Wembley once before, in that play off final when they got beat by Blackpool (in their celebrity 11 incarnation that featured both Michael Jackson and Robbie Williams).

It's a big deal for them I guess.

Fuck knows, I really just wanted to refer to that Blackpool side to be honest as the line up always used to make me laugh.

I thought you meant Sheffield United....you didn't....

I see Sky's not showing biased...all about Brentford.

I hate the Franchise manager....sorry, I just hate Franchise.

Not sure we can complain too much as Sky have been very biased towards us when we were on tv with PDC as manager.

They are always biased towards one team i find

I think they've made the final about 3 times and got dicked every time

hearing it is disgusting

Sky's pre match titles are using the diamond badge. Great work.

Well that's great, Sky don't even have the right badge for us!

http://cricfree.tv/sky-sports-1-live-stream-online.php

This link is working very well. Didn't make the trip without the ticket as I didn't want to faff around beg, stealing or begging only to be left dissapointed. Gutted not to be there.

Oh for a glorious repeat of that famous night at The Valley :pint:

Just used my bet to overcome the disappointment of losing on pens - £100 to drown my sorrows... Also did the same bet on extra time loss and a full time loss... Not that I'm negative about this fixture or nowt..

Here we go then...

JUST WIN YOU CUNTS!

Nice crowd at the cg, sunshining down. Come on Town!

C'mon Town. Lets fucking do this  :pint: :pint: :pint: :pint: :pint:

come on swindon

Surprised it's taken 6 mins for Donaldson to fall over...

so we're playing against 12 men today

stop the fucking hoof ball town and play football

So what's new....

Not keeping hold of the ball for more than 5 seconds is a bigger problem than the Ref

So far so gash.

Hopefully they'll put 3 past is by half time then I can sack it off and sneak 9 holes of golf in.

Watching via Setanta here in Sydney Australia. Yes it still lives on over here.

Come On Town!!!

Good morning.

FUCK

Looks like it's the Swindon team playing that waits for the other team to score before trying to score themselves....

Own goal from a corner in a play-off semi final second leg? Reminds me of the last time we were in London for the play offs

Been coming

It was, not any more.
But thanks for the welcome.

WHY THE FUCK WAS NO ONE ON THE BACK POST?? :crash: :crash: :crash:

...and we're playing in blue! but we certainly don't have Danny Ward.

We're rubbish at come backs so we are done.

Getting we what we deserve today

That's been coming. Our full backs are shit and there to be rinsed. Centre backs dug them out until now.

God we have been poop so far

Early doors. Another goal will mean trouble, but still in it.

Get Collins on FFS

All Brentford. This could be 2/3 at half time

I fear this is going to get embarrassing  :cry:

Team selection, playing style, formations, motivation, tactics - dreadful under K Mac.

Start again in the summer.

Jesus wept - way to go out with a whimper Town ::)

Christ we're playing shit

It's like Doncaster all over again

We're second to everything

Wonder if KMAC will change it up sooner rather then later

Sadly, you're exactly right.

we're not playing that good DV

plus the brentford players are diving every chance they get

The midfield is non-existent.

Have we strung 3 passes together yet?

so is the front line and defence

I've not seen such a one sided game in years!

Useless so far.

I think we need the ball for that don't we?

pass pass pass hoooooooof is all we are doing

Should have sold Aden Flint to Bradford.  Said that moonths ago and saying it today.  Soon as he gets the ball he just hoofs it.  He hasnt a clue

They seem to be a team of giants, and we are playing it forward only in the air

We cant even get our own half for fuck sake well done ronald. >:(

This is utterly appalling from Town so far - need to get to half time without conceding again to have any hope. If Brentford score again then we're done I fear.

That's what they're doing as well...but their forward players are holding the ball up and getting support from the midfield.

Single handedly kept us in the tie so far you spacker

Oh dear

Piss poor so far

BBC Radio London comment before game saying side that controls midfield would win it.  Very true.  We need to get s grip there like we did on Sat.  Possession stats completely reversed.  MacDonald needs to learn how to strip paint off the dressing room walls at HT.

And my 'lucky' Swindon cider needs to start getting lucky, or I'm not buying any more.  (It is lovely though.)

We must be watching different games.  He gets the ball, he hoofs it, we come under pressure again

Half a chance from Williams.

Getting bullied all over the place, we are just too nice.

Rooney has got the first touch of a rapist, except when he is in our own box it seems.  Can't see KMAC changing it, but can see him saying "that's football" in his predictable post match interview.

KEEP THE BALL DOWN WILLIAMS U TOSSER!!

textbook williams shot there  ::)

Agree, him and Ward!

Game Over...

Game over

Game over

Cock Donaldson

Shit

K Mac out

OUT

Game over. Going down the hoe, fuck listening to this shit.

Game over.

FUCK YOU SWINDON FUCK YOU KMAC FUCK YOU WILLIAMS FUCK ALL OF YOU!!!

Lifeless. Listless. Gutless.

Pathetically shite.

Ashamed

Good marking by Flint there on Donalson

My god, we're an embarrassment. At least we won't be thumped at Wembley.

Fucking thundercunts

fucking embrassing >:(

Haha he's Wards man

Awful. Just awful.

We're going to struggle next season aren't we?

Horrible way to finish this season since the takeover relegation next season it is then. :cry:

This could be 5-0

Yay

2-1 game on

soapy tit wank how undeserved

But i'll take it !

Fucking wake up then town

This is a page of two halves !

simon ferry's contribution is running back, and if we are able to clear the ball to the half way line he tries to lay it off and run on. he's one of our best players...surely we can use him better than this?

Problem? What problem?

We should be 5 down, yet amazingly still in this. COYR!!!!!

2 1 down the scoreline flatters us but we are still in this

Agree but the think Kmac prefers Louongo

 :)

We're a fucking shambles.

If jocky fuckwit doesn't change things for the 2nd half we're dead and buried.

Mr Motivator he aint

Embarrassing - but at least it's only 2-1.

The half time team talk should be:

KEEP THE FUCKING BALL ON THE GROUND, YOU FUCKING DAFT FUCKING CUNTS

That was embarrassing, but were still in it somehow. Got to improve second half.

I had to stop watching it [in pub] it was making me so angry, KMac's tactics the same as last game, ordering them to hoof the ball forward for the two lads up top to chase...

And angry that the players won't ignore him and get back to playing their own game.

As you say, Ferry totally wasted again.

Then I got back home and saw Rooney scored.... so, shit - I have to stay put here now !!

Believe people.  Today is our day.

Hoofing the ball to our non-existent target man. Good plan.

Where's my Swindon gone?

So i leave the house and 2 mins later we score? Im staying out of the house until its over!

I wouldn't be so polite

Completely outclassed.

Ferry on the right has never worked and will never work, every fucker bar KMac can see this.

Amen !

Its the manager's instructions, clearly...

If twas me - Williams on the left, Roberts on the right, Ferry and Mc Cormack swop over.

Or Byrne to the right, Macca to left back, Ferry in the middle.

Give them something to think about for Gawd's sake !


 

We played less football than the old Wimbledon in that half. Under previous managers you could say things can only get better in the 2nd half, but they rarely do under MacDonald.

Rafa on for Luongo. Roberts to the right. Ferry and McCormack in the middle, De Vita left.

Collins on for either of the front two.

Rafa's been shit since PDC left. I'd rather see L. Rooney.

I'm usually positive but I can't see Kmac turning this around and it'd not all his fault - we look burnt out and Brentford clearly are up for this one... We need a monumental change in the 2nd

My stream has turned into highlights of the Italian league

Possibly for the best

Keep things the same until the 81st minute and then make the inevitable change of Collins for the least tired striker.

i'd sub alan mac, purely as he's got a long time to go without getting another booking

Spot on.

At least fucking match them for effort, the further this goes the more nervous they will get!

COYR

Attendance: 9,109 (1,805 #STFC)

3.5k empty seats

try this:

http://cricfree.tv/sky-sports-1-live-stream-online.php

Jocky fuckwit wont change a thing until we are 3-1 down with 10 minutes to go.

I honestly don't think he has an original thought in his head.

We could've sold a number of them...given half a chance.

As long as we have two wingers on the wing...

Well our ht team talk worked.

Fucking hell Roberts

Hopefully we'll never see Roberts in a Town shirt again.

Pathetic

who gave the ball away ?

Gary Roberts I hope you suffer a career ending one

Pa-fucking-thetic.

Well, who's looking forward to next season then?

That sums up Roberts' season

get douglas on

Luongo, Roberts and Byrne off

Rafa, Rooney and Collins on

Now.

3 upfront we need 3 goals in 40 minutes.

Didn't even chase back. Jug eared cunt

Dear me.....

Bring Collins and storey on

And Jocky Fuckwit doesn't appear to give a fuck

2 subs coming on

incidentally, Flint appears to be wearing tights

We are fucking shit

Good god,

Just what did he say to them at half time?

If he takes one of the strikers off.....

Clueless useless management from top to bottom, what a shambles we have become!

Can understand kMac hate but this just isn't true, he's bright red shouting and making two subs

Saves forking out a shed load visiting that shithole for the final I suppose

So our only natural finisher is taken off. Fml

He's taken them both off?

We need goals so he takes two strikers off for a winger and a striker?

Two strikers for two strikers. Fml.

Should have gone 343 what's the worst that can happen?

That's what he gets paid the BIG bucks for!!!

 :doh:

Seen more life in a corpse

He did he had his head in his hands inside the area when they scored

midfield too deep now, although trying to press they're not close enough to start off with, so it's just leaving gaps behind.

argh

Turd sandwich..
On the bright side, at least we won't get humiliated every week in the Championship next season...
we'll get humiliated every week in league one instead  :headhurts:

Well 4-4-2 certainly wasn't working, maybe this could be more effective.............massive straw being clutched

3-2 game back on

get in

I can't help but laugh

Devera upfront please with finishing like that

Macdonald showing passion. Wowser

How the fuck are we close here? We've been shite, come on reds

Kmac genius

That was my reacion, too.

We're so pathetically shite, yet there's a faint gilmmer

Fuck me, how are we still in this. Fair play to em.

This is ridiculous, it's the hope that kills you

I almost feel bad for losing faith.....
Come on Swindon!

Stock storey on with his pAce

WE CAN FUCKING DO THIS. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Amen....

This x12m

Somehow we're playing shit yet have scored 2 goals. Imagine if we were playing well!

Someone just explained the win bonus to him!

I quit uGree

The glass doesn't get much more half full than that !

Roberts is an utterly useless prick - get Rooney on

THIS (especially the first bit)

OK, I'm willing to give every player the benefit of the doubt, but Roberts needs to be substituted. And soon

he keeps turning into a blind alley where all he's got is some fancy tricks that don't come off, or they get the ball...

your point stands though

Close

Get Story on Kmac

We need to take advantage of this, brentford look tired.

storey vs tired centrebacks could be interesting

giving the ball away in stupid positions is whats killing us

As long as his hamstring lasts longer than 5 minutes

If, and its a big if, we do this, it'll be the greatest daylight robbery case ever

it only takes a second to score a goal!

A bit like Brentford getting a draw on Saturday despite not having a shot on goal until the 94th minute

Yep

If they beat us I will be a Yeovil fan for the day. The amount of times they have been on the floor, I thought I was watching the wrestling  :)

Yeovil in the Championship doesn't bear contemplating.....

roberts if you're going to stay on the pitch, stay on the left wing, don't drift in and get some more of those crosses in, you cunt

Collins, do us proud lad

But it takes 30 mins to play extra time.

Final roll of the dice please, it's now or never....

Ferry is off - the TEF will go into meltdown

Storey's barnet is a howler

Nothing will beat what Brighton did in 2004.

Lets fucking have a crescendo to end all crescendos

Does Donald ducks head start at his forearm?

i hope all of him dies

Stop letting Roberts take the bloody corners...

First man every time

aahhhh !!

stream ended on 90 mins exactly

At the moment, the difference in the sides is the penalty from Saturday, which shouldn't have been given.

YES

OMFG

YEeeeeeeeeeh

FLINTY YOU BEAUTY

Your shit Aden Flint but fair play

this is fucking ace!

Fuck my ass.

That's unbelievable!!

Stefpol you cunt!!!!!!!!!!

Yessss

Fuck me. Daylight robbery but who cares!

lololol

Get in there!!!! Come on you redssssssss.

About time he took a couple of good ones....

Bring back away goals rule

Hahaha, good lord.

As said earlier, its the hope that kills you....

COYR

GET THE FUCK IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers: 8) 8) 8) 8)

Get the fuck in!! I'm jumping with joy and my Filipino workmates are calling for a doctor as they think I have lost the plot. This is not cockfighting this is Football!!!

Almost evens out the last minute (second) penalty on Saturday.

Like I said before. Problem? What problem?

Oh my God, heart attack

Swindon Town, I fucking love you.  Even if we don't win this, we will always have that goal.

Wise men say...

FUCKING UNREAL  "COME ON YOU REDS" ONWARDS AND UPWARDS "WERE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP"

If only Donaldson hadn't of spent so much time play acting on the floor...eh.

Flint and Devera upfront!

C'mon town never say die :thumb:

Surely Brentford must be mentally fucked.

Lets go for it, get them while they are down

harlee dean, despite having a really fun name, does strike me as a massive cunt

The ore I look at it the more I think we deserve this. Yes for the first hour they were all over us, but they've not managed to create any more clear cut chances than we have, and Roberts fucking handed one of them to them.

Scoring too early will fuck us up!!

Roberts to miss his penalty!

Load of Bauxite

bidwell is also a cunt

I think there might be something of the self fulifilling prophecy about giving a child a name like that. He's almost boud to grow up to be a right ugly, chavvy, tattooed thug

Did the commentator just say Collins tried to dick out Pe Vita?

Byrne off...

The ref is a cunt

niether yellow were justified yellows. this ref is a massive cunt and i really hope he dies painfully

Stupid twat Byrne, clear 2nd yellow

ok, the second was a yellow. the first was donaldson (cunt) diving

Donaldson is a fucking twat

Proud of you, lads.  Now let's finish it.

He's a bit like Drogba - huge powerful man, but goes down like he's been shot whenever he's touched

I think he would be better off playing it hard

He could have at least punched Donaldson's lights out for a Red

I'm terrified

agreed

Byrne will moss the final if we get there I assume

Holy shut is all I can say! Swindon trending #1 on twitter

*shit

Miss...Yes

Whose the nominated 5 then do you reckon?

joe devera!

Donaldson booked for diving...It's only taken 205 mins.

should've been second booked for deliberate handball.

then chopped up into pieces. then set on fire

Shit

Come on Fodders...

Good luck with your new club miles

Roberts will miss

Oh well, at least we made a game of it in the end - which didn't look likely after the first 40 minutes

I'm afraid the closeness of the score cannot hide the utter ineptitude of the majority of that performance

Miles fucking story why the fuck is he taking one.

Agreed.

Why oh why oh why oh why do players not take a run up when taking pens. I wasn't too happy when Collins took his but at least it went in. You could just tell Storey was going to miss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtuVBPwzstM

I knew storey would miss! Fair play to brentford after missing out like they did.

Interesting close season!!

Over the two legs we were the better side in my opinion (and i'm usually critical of Swindon).  I think we desperately missed a Ritchie type player who could run at their players as Roberts doesnt have the legs to do this.

Think we will be lucky to get anywhere near the playoffs next season unless their is a revamp of the team.  Will be interesting to see who comes and who goes.

Bring on the fucking Ashes

You thought we were the better team today????

40 minutes out of a total of 210 minutes does not equal a majority. Or even 40 minutes out of 120.

Gutted- accepted defeat at 3.1 and to fight back the way they did was a heartbreaking end.
Season over then
Revolving door of players out in the summer to look forward to I guess

Jury is still out on MacDonald for me
Will see how he gets on with his own team and preseason

 :crash:

No like my post says, over both ties we were the better side

We were actually quite good in the 2nd half.

I'm angry at the abysmal effort in the 1st half though. If it wasn't for that pathetic showing we would not have won that.

*But we were utterly pathetic in the 1st half. Atrocious.

We were the better team for 3 of the 4 halfs that were played in this tie.

If you points scored that like a Boxing match we'd have won.

Apart from the first 50 minutes of the second half we were the better team and we weren't even close to our free flowing best.

I do worry what happens next...

unlucky chaps. We had the same thing happen to us 2 years. Howe left us in January and just about scraped the playoffs. Played Huddersfield. 1-1 at ours, 3-3 at theirs, then beaten on pens. Also had a player sent-off during extra time.

Good luck next season, I think its going to be a tougher league

You know what! Call me bitter but Brentford can go fuck themselves

Very much so :no:

Back from whence we came, I reckon

That cunt Donaldson can go fuck himself. Ah well, football. What a stupid beautiful heart harming game.

Never nice to lose on penalties. Wes is weaker on his left side and they knew that, also with the knock I couldn't see them missing one. Feel sorry for Storey, think that could be his last touch for us, but why didn't someone tell him to take a run up.

 Why a kid is going up under that pressure when more experienced players didn't beats me.

Saved us going to that overpriced dump again, and not wishing to sound too bitter, whoever goes up will struggle and be back again this time next year.

Not sure we would have enjoyed getting pissed on most weeks, been there, done that!

Without investment on a huge scale in the squad there is no point going up anyway.

God knows what happens now but at least we have our derby with Shitty back next season.

Chins up, could be worse, we could be Poxford!!!

Also Brentford are the best team at falling over I think I've seen, Donaldson is one of the biggest cunts in football.

Got a lot of time for Uwe Rosler.  Never gave it the big one when Brentford scored any of their goals.  He went straight to KMAC after the penalties as well.

Think hes got a good future ahead of him

I do think a more experienced player (maybe McCormack as captain) should've taken Storey's pen, but if he was willing to take it...

At the end of the day, we lost this on Saturday at the CG when we didn't get 2 penalties we should've, but Brentford got one despite two fouls in the build up which wasn't spotted.

Anyway, we'll have to see what comes out in the coming weeks regarding players.

And the answer to those questions, especially if Jed and co. are still going to be here.

Gutted but proud we made a fight of it. Some how I'd rather lose there and like that than at Wembley.

In ET I was wondering who was going to take them I for some reason I didn't fancy Storey - or Flint for that mattter.

Classic game. Classic Swindon

unlucky chaps. We had the same thing happen to us 2 years. Howe left us in January and just about scraped the playoffs. Played Huddersfield. 1-1 at ours, 3-3 at theirs, then beaten on pens. Also had a player sent-off during extra time.

Good luck next season, I think its going to be a tougher league



Can you please fuck off now . what a cunt ,,,,,,,,,, :suicide:

You lot are certainly in a tougher division, see you again season after next, until then, bye bye!

The first thing that needs to happen is to have some clarity about the intentions of the Board. No BS, an honest statement of where they see their stewardship taking our club.  Until we get that, then we'll have no idea what to expect.

Fucking jammy diving twat shits.

FUCKING GUTTED. FUCKING GUTTED. FUCKING GUTTED.

MILES FUCKING STOREY. I'M SORRY SON, BUT YOU'RE NO FUCKING PREMIER LEAGUE PLAYER. HIT THE CUNTING THING AS HARD AS YOU CAN YOU CUNT!!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU HIT THE ADVERTISING BOARD YOU'RE STILL A CUNT BUT TO TRY AND BE RVP, FFS.

WE DO THE HARDEST THING AND CLAW OUR WAY BACK FROM 3-1 DOWN, GET A PLAYER SENT OF IN EXTRA TIME AND YOU FUCKING TRY TO BE, ANY PREMIER LEAGUE PLAYER YOU CARE TO MENTION AND IT ALL FALLS TO PIECES.  

Yes I know it's all capitols but inspite of me not going to Wembley either way I am so sick it it is unreal.

based on this, PDC will be back at Swindon in 18 months then  :hmmm:

Fucking hell, get me cardigan and slippers, I agree with Reg.

Bit unfair to pick on Storey. Shocking penalty admittedly, but at least he had the balls to put himself on the spot. Chin up lad. Lets hope he can pick himself up and press on, with us, next season.

And lets face it, minus di Canio and some serious investment, we are not ready for the Championship. Sure would have been fun though :-(

Fuck fuck fuckity fuck. Arse . cunty wank.

Not even sure where to start.

If we'd lost in the 90 minutes, I'd have been pissed off.  To equalize at the death though and lose on penalties was absolutely gutting.  The dejection as we all left seemed far worse than after we lost at Wembley in 2010.

That stupid last minute penalty on Saturday and one of the most utterly shambolic 50 mins of football has cost us the tie.  Brentford are shit.

Fundamentally though our season ended in January when Black pulled the plug, Ritchie was sold and Di Canio walked.  This season was never going to have a happy ending.  That was our best chance of reaching the Championship and I genuinely fear what next season will hold.  Time for some answers now Jed, you can't hide any longer!

I'm sorry folks, I cant bare looking at all the pre match posts and the post match posts other than what I have posted. I'll see all those that share my pasion in August for a relegation battle as my ST finance has been approved.

Suffice to say that all those who went today saw the last performance of many 1st team regulars in a town shirt and those on Saturday likewise!!

As someone posted, roll on the ashes.

It is annoying how we gifted Brentford 3 of their four goals.

Still we played awfully at yet somehow managed to take it to penalties, then eff it up. Typical Swindon style.

Fuck sake. Absolutley gutted. Could have forgiven Storey for missing the penalty if he hit it with a bit of conviction but these short run ups never seem to have a happy ending. Why didn't Raffa take one?? The guys meant to be a striker for fuck sake!!!

Bugger.

See you in a month or so, I'm going to watch Cricket and pretend Football doesn't really exist.

On the plus note my sky bet £10 pulled me £90 quid...

Look outside your windonw. Seen any mobs with pitchforks and flaming torches yet?

Only me mrs... As soon as I saw the odds it was a sure fire bet..

Is it wrong that I'm more pissed off about losing my oyster card than that game?

Didn't take me very long to get over this time! I was distraught after Brighton!!

I think you're right in terms of a possible relegation battle next season and you could tell at the end when the players came over they were saying goodbyes - McCormack, Flint and Ferry.

Couldn't see any of the penalties as the teams were in the way.  As soon as Storey went up, I had a feeling he'd miss.  Shame it's on his shoulders a bit now.

I'm still pissed off, but Brighton took weeks...I know this time it won't.  The bigger question now is, will I need my orange hat next season?

And what happened to mccormack's bottle in the shoot out!

Bad enough having 2 centre halfs and a 19 year old taking 3/5 of them!

What were the players reactions like at the end?

How on earth we got it to pens after that first half I will never know. We were awful but somehow gave ourselves a lifeline with the Rooney goal. Then Roberts does that.

Credit to the players for digging deep and clawing it back. That last minute equaliser was brilliant. Thought we were going to replicate the Charlton win but it wasn't to be. No idea why McCormack didn't take a penalty. The senior players should have stepped up and shown some bottle there.

Feel really sorry for Mile Storey tonight.

Onto next season. What will the summer bring? I worry a lot of bad news.

May I remind you who took the winner at  Charlton :)

fuck sake. That's the end of di canios high cost squad then. Wonder what the future holds squad..

Oh and why the fuck was Byrne booked for that? Falling on the ball when that prick Donaldson clipped his ankles. We've had about 4 awful referring decisions go against us over the 2 legs.

Can't be bothered to read through the whole thread, but gutted obviously. Looking at the final third of our season though, we haven't really deserved promotion.

Bad individual errors for all 3 goals is disappointing (Rooney, Byrne, Roberts), we didn't weather the storm at all, and they didn't have to work hard to score 3 today.

We were certainly the better side at our place, victory by 2 goals would've been about right I think. Brentford were the better side today though. We did well to hang on in there. Horrible way to lose, really feel for Storey. (Flint is going up in my estimation all the time, good character today).

Overall can't knock the effort over the 2-legs, even if the quality wasn't where it had been in patches this season. It will be an interesting summer for us. I feel very nervous about it frankly.

On the plus side though. That penalties defeat has just saved me well over £100 on new Wembley.

Bad end to a mixed season. At least as a fan of the egg-chasing I can look forward to the Lions in Aus, and England's tour of Argentina.

Here's to next season. COYR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

That about sums up my fears for next season.

Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA

"What we can all say tonight is we got through the most ridiculous of seasons with heads held high. Could've rolled over given first half..."

Whilst we were shit in the 1st half, think it says as much about Brentford that they only went in 1 up. Over the two legs we were the better team but didn't take our chances and gifted them three of their goals. Thought the Byrne sending off was more than harsh, with the ball where it was he was always going to land on it with his hands as he reached our to soften the fall. With 11 players I reckon we'd have won it in extra time.

No major complaints though, shit happens in football and was pretty happy with our performance over the two games. Feel sorry for Storey, no reason for him to feel guilt - plenty of better players have fucked worse in more important penalty shoot outs than that before. At least he had the bottle to take one.

Thought Kmac did a good job, making changes and going for it which ultimately paid off to get us in to extra time. I'm actually looking forward to the summer and next season, as I'm guessing we'll be getting rid of some of the overpaid older players and bringing in a good few youngsters.

I am sick of football...i am not going to watch another match untill the first day of next season.

Oh and Flint was fucking brilliant today.

Apology accepted  ::)

Sam, me old mucker. I'm to old to arse about with twitter. So let me tell you this. This season was a chewed pigs ear by a Rowtwieler or what ever the fucking benefit dogs are called once Paty took over from Jeza. Next season is my worry! Jed you chancer, last seaon ticket for me and my family if you don't come up with the goods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ironically our best spell was when we went 4-5-1 when KMac made his first two subs. Our midfield started to get theit foot on the ball.

I thought the worse when the ref said that they were having the pens at the home end. Looks like that was decided before the match as the only toss of the coin was to decide who went first.

On the upside, Sunderland are losing at home to Stoke.

Was Williams actually up front? I was at the game and I'm still not sure...

Flint's been brilliant every time I've seen him this season. Doesn't deserve the stick he gets from some quarters.

Now down to 10 men, and was only playing 1 up front at the start.

Good. Hope they get relegated.

You sure it wasn't 3?

Don't mention this to StefPol.

Dont we also get to play that fat evans cunt nxt season

Definately 1.

Still a bit numb, but not dejected.  I'm proud of the fight that we put up.  Barring an improbable turn of events, the die was cast at the end of January when Andrew Black decided he had to find the nearest exit and get out by the fastest possible route, regardless of the consequences.  Under those circumstances, to have continued fighting until May 6th was impressive.  I have no idea where we go from here, but today was a respectable - if not a triumphant - end to one of the more interesting seasons we have seen in a long time.

Over to you, Jed.  What's the plan for 2013/14?

Was Williams actually playing? I'm not normally one for slagging players off but he was fucking dreadful today & has been since he came back from his injury earlier in the season. Haven't seen him play well since Tranmere at home in December. He's a shadow of the player that came on & turned the game against Villa in the cup!!

I forgot about that fat tosser.

And we've also got the pikeys...

One positive is that Luongo now won't join us next season. Not that he's a bad player, but it means we won't see Ferry out wide again.  Back in the middle next season for our Simon.  Now when is his contract up?  Oh, bugger...

Thought that was Storey :hmmm:

Also shitty......Lots to look forward to then

Granted he scored the goals but Willo was unplayable that game, best game I've seen him have for Town.

Whilst it won't make up for missing out on Wembley, it will soften the blow somewhat if they go down.

How the fuck Byrne is a pro footballer i don't know. Did us all a favour when he got sent off, Totally one footed and a liability. Awful.
Read bits of the thread during the game and couldn't believe the stick Flint got. Even without scoring he was our best player by a mile.

Interesting summer ahead, 5 scholars getting pro contracts before our fate was even known is a concern.
That said, on todays showing, fighting spirit aside there is a lack of quality in our team so they wont do much worse. For all that money thrown at it that's the poorest side we've ever had in the play offs and were a penalty kick way from Wembley. Weird game is football at times......

Once Williams was replaced by collins that's when we started to play a bit, flint was superb, Roberts was pretty shit :suicide:

Fat Robbie Williams (Roberts) was not the signing I hoped he would be.

Agree with most....though this poor side was top in February...and should/would have pissed the league.

Speaking of fat, their number six was a bit of a porker.

I'm sure this has been covered a million times but ....

Who's out of contract now?

Maybe it's because I'm getting older, but my abiding feeling right now is that we've been spared the possibility of breaking our own minimum points tally record of 30 from 1993/94.  If we had scraped through to Wembley and scraped through again vs Yeovil, I have a feeling that that is exactly what would happen.

I'm already fairly convinced that this is the fate that awaits whoever wins on May 19th.  Can't see Yeovil or Brentford doing anything other than filling one of the bottom three places next year.  (Bitter?  No!)

If you look back over the last few years a good few of our best players have been inexperienced youngsters when they came here - Ferry, Foderingham, Thompson, Flint, Austin. Not sure we've got the same level of results from the experienced pros we've signed, (probably) on decent wages.

injuries, shit loanees is why.
Di Canio knew what was needed and fucked off when it wasn't forthcoming.
Thought Kmac had it right today.

Lets see what Jedward and his merry men of Status Quo tribute act reject lookalikes are about this summer. Gut feeling says not alot of good. Time will tell but next season is going to be very interesting.

Add these team to the mix Bristol City , wolves , Peterborough . From what I can see it will be a very competitive  league next year. Sheffield utd will also be desperate to get  promoted.

At least we went down fighting, especially after seeing some of the Sheff Utd game.

Oh, we've got them again next season also.

Posh Red will be slightly happy, he'll have a 'home' game next season.

Not 5 players from the same year, out of the same club though. Won't get a bigger supporter of our youth set up on here than me Jonny but they aint all good enough though i'm 100% convinced of that. Offering them all contracts when we could have been promoted rings alarm bells for me.

Yep...only brightspot for me today was K,Mac....did almost everything right and started to show some real passion also.....deffo winning me over to be honest.
The home leg did us.

Cheap publicity stunt- Fitton did the same first year he was here giving 9 pro contracts- none of them made it- think Kennedy was closest?

I am very proud Swindon Town fan.
 
At times we lacked quality, at times we lacked composure but we never gave up. To come back from two goals down was fantastic and that Flint goal and the celebrations is something I will never forget. Going completely mental and hugging complete strangers is what being a football fan is all about and makes all the shit seem worth it.

KMAC did a great job, showed lost of passion and changed the formation which really got us back in the game. Collins did really well when he came on, and Wes made a few excellent saves.

The town fans were brilliant, great support unlike the Brentford fans who were silent apart from the two minutes after their goals, thought they lacked a bit of class at the end but that is to be expected I suppose.

Penalties is always a lottery and fair play to Miles Storey for stepping up, took a lot of courage. I really hope we hold onto him for next season.

What an incredible season we have had, and I suppose it was always going to end in such a dramatic fashion. I hope we keep hold of most of our out of contract players and let KMAC build his own team and have another crack it next year.

I am completely exhausted and gutted but I am also heartened. Football can be a really cruel game and today has shown why we all love and hate Swindon Town. 

Same as that, it's football on the cheap next season and a long, hard struggle I think.  Interesting summer ahead!!

9? Jog my memory as you've lost me

Wonder if we can flog Roberts off in the summer. He must be a higher earner and he's pretty average.

Flog? Give him away maybe.

Brentford boss Uwe Rosler:

"Swindon took us to the wire. But the way we played for 120 minutes, just 48 hours after the last match, was magnificent and we deserved to go through.

"My players never felt sorry for themselves and they never stopped.

"After what had happened before, and to concede in the last second again, for them to come back psychologically, I am privileged to have a squad like this in my first job in English football."

Swindon Town manager Kevin MacDonald:

"The character of the team has been fantastic all the way through the season.

"You saw that today, but the sending-off turned the game.

"Miles Storey showed a lot of character to step up there. I am proud of him, but someone had to miss."

kMac is spot on about the sending off, we were starting to boss the game, as soon as Byrne got sent off we sat to deep and if not for wes could have conceded 2 goals

Back home and sat here reflecting on the game and reading through the comments it has all been said on this thread and it is all I have ever come to expect being a Town supporter, highs, lows and everything in between, just very, very disappointed how it has all ended for this season.

Non too optimistic about next season either as the Division is going to be far tougher than this one was and I think that there will be a big turnover in players which will not help the cause.

Loved to be proved wrong.

But it was the most pathetic booking. Neither ref in both matches game us much, but gave Brentford plenty.

Agree, the ref was a cunt, Brentford moaned he gave them something

If he hadn't kicked the ball away in petulance ofr the first booking, he wouldn't have been sent off.  But to be sent off for being pushed over is pathetic.

Did he though? I thought he genuinely hadn't heard the whistle, didn't see any sign of dissent before he hoofed it.

In the first leg at the CG, a Brentford player deliberately kicked the ball away in front of the ref after about 15 mins...no booking.

Well, he did seem to indicate he didn't hear the whistle...but was Griffin Park that loud?

A game like that was a fitting end to our season. Promised so much but ultimately left us all deflated.

I'd say I'm looking forward to next season but the uncertainty is too unsettling for me.

I heard it and I was at the furthest point away amongst our fans!

Kurt Hammonds, Jake Hyde, Ben Joyce, Callum Kennedy, Lloyd Macklin, Sam Morris, Sean Morrison, Mark Scott and Jack Winter all in Feb 2008.
Tom Evans in April 2008.
http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Transfers.asp?Season=2007-2008

What a game to end a season with so many highs and lows!

Nothing but pride in our players today. The character and effort at times was immense. Special mention to McCormack/Flint for their graft and to Wes for making some important saves. I can't understand the negativity Flint gets, no he's not a cultured defender set for the top but he is a commited performer who puts a shift in every game and doesn't shirk a challenge and at this level that'll do for me.

Kmac has come in for some abuse of late but his changes brought a good response and got us back into the game (still not sure how after the first half performance).

In a weird way im glad we're not heading in to the championship with so much uncertainty hanging around the club currently, which seems like a weird thing to say i know.

Right now i just want the board to come out and be honest about their ambitions/intentions. Where is the funding coming from? How long is Kmac's contract?

If we have to operate on a small budget then i wish they'd just come out and say that, then let Kmac get on with shaping a team built around youngsters and a few loans. Move on the high earners and start again.

I think most fans just want transpsparency from the board. I hope we get that soon and we can head in to the summer knowing where we stand.

We did make £250k from the sale of Morrison...

Emotionally and physically drained.

Well I'm glad that's all over. Saves another disappointing trip to the soulless Wembley and we would have got torn to pieces in the Championship anyway. This season effectively ended during those couple of weeks when Black left, Ritchie left and we failed to sign the 3 players on loan. We've been short every since.

Over the two legs I thought both sides were poor. The officials were also awful. I didn't think the one today could be worse than Saturday but how wrong was I!? Every time a Brentford player went down he blew up. I can't believe he sent off Byrne for being pushed over?! Donaldson is a diving, cheating piece of crap, and the ref fell for his antics (almost) the whole game. Finally decided to book him for diving with about 10 minutes left. Cheers ref.

One thing that stood out for me over the two legs is how we seem to lack any sort of cutting edge in open play. Williams was so lively in the first half of the season. Spinning defenders, using his pace. Second half he's been abysmal. Did nothing over these two legs.

There aren't too many guys who I'm bothered about staying. Compare this side to the one that lost on the PO final a few years back - Austin, Paynter, Ferry, Douglas, Greer, Ward - there's no comparison. I'd like Fods, Thompson, Flint, Ward, Ferry, Macca and Collins to stay. Be great if Caddis came back too. The rest, who cares?

The close season is going to be extremely interesting.

Not trying to make a point out of anything, I was just responding to arriba's question

It's been a hell of a season - for us, obviously, but also for the players too and they have shown great character.  I was one who rated Devera well ahead of Flint but full credit to both and especially Flint for stepping up and overcoming his weaknesses and to Alan McCormack for his leadership

In a roundabout way so was I, as he didn't think anyone made it.

Excellent post, KMac has another two years - which worries me, but I just need to know at what standard Jed and Co. are going to have us playing at next season - in with a chance of the play-offs or a battle against relegation on a shoestring budget.

Cheers for that. Not along ago but easily forgotten

He may be a bargain bin version of Andy King but Gary Johnson at Yeovil has proven a bit of astuteness at this level can still reap rewards.  Kevin Mac deserves a decent crack at next season and if he can keep the spine of the side together with a bit of wheeling and dealing who knows.

Interesting to see how the winner of ty final fairs in the Championship next season.  Will be a decent indication of how we may have faired.

Have to say though mos importantly, fucking well proud of the players today.  Never felt so flat coming into such a meaningful game but we can hold our heads high today.

Goodnight

Well, that was my observation and a result of flawed memory as I'd forgot Morrison was one of the 9. I only brought it up as I seem to remember Fitton being widely praised for investing in youth while Jed seems to be being castigated as he's clearly signed them as first team players. Let's wait and see what happens on the contract renewals front.

Yeovil have done alright.

Yet you want more to stay from this season than the 2010 squad :hmmm:

I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned it yet but Clayton Donaldson is a fucking wanker of the highest order.

I'd echo that sentiment even though that has been mentioned a few times, and I think it deserves mentioning again.

Sums up how I feel about the whole season really.

Agree about Donaldson as well Sonic. What. A. Twat.

In fact Donaldson can be joined in the cheating wanker cunt club by Adeyemi - went down holding his shoulder in agony after a challenge where nobody made contact with him and then looked horrified at being substituted.

Donaldson was the player that obstructed Byrne by taking him out in the build up to the penalty incident on Saturday, before Douglas handled it.

Where did I state who I'd keep from the 2010 squad?

Wanting to keep some of our current bunch has nothing to do with the 2010 team. It's just me being hopeful we can have something near a decent team next season.

Want Yeovil to win at Wembley just so I can see that cunt Donaldson looking sad.

Flint's goal and the following celebrations is one of my all time favourite moments following Swindon.

Fucking superb moment.

I would also like him to be sent off at Wembley for diving.

I'd like him to cease existing.

At least it was funny when Rivaldo did it.

Not surprised Donaldson is getting stick from our fans but he was a pain in the arse for our back four and we could have done with him,or one like him in a town shirt. Thought he had a decent game for them today.

If he stopped falling over all the time he'd be a top player.

Haha

Was surprised we didn't stick someone bigger on him, he had the beating of Byrne physically every time.

But what a cunt.

Sounds like Jed got a nice welcome at one of the pubs before the game or something?

Yeah but its the unnecessary shite that goes with it, who's head starts from just below the elbow?

What happend?

I heard chants of " He does what he wants..Jed Mcrory..he does what he wants" , and "he's only here to sell the club..." as I walked passed the Griffen.

He ran rings around Byrne from start to finish. I thought he had a great game, just a shame he's always looking so eager to cheat.

Notice how he moved to the other side when Macca went to left back?

Exploited a weakness of ours. Good move on his-Brentford's part. No good asking a big man to stick to him in that situation really.

 I would have subbed Byrne at half time myself. He should spend his entire summer kicking footballs with his left foot.

Guess I better pack my bags  :(

Looked to me like he was backing in to the man marking him every time he went for a long ball and getting free kicks for it more often than not. Think it was him that went down clutching his head when he got a light tap on his elbow.

Annoying when someone like that is playing against you, but we could do with someone big and strong up front doing the same thing.

I thought Collins did quite a good job leading the line when he came on, far more effective than Williams or Rooney (who took his goal brilliantly).

The bonus with Donaldson is that he's good with the ball at his feet and is an excellent finisher. It's a massive shame he resorts to dirty tricks to cheat.

If we had a clinical finisher we wouldn't have been in the play offs anyway.

Byrne was struggling with him from the offset and he played on it, which eventually led to Byrne being sent off.  He's far too small and so one footed it's unbelievable.  Both the Tottenham loanees cost us over the two ties.

Heard on the terraces tonight that McCormack is definitely off, as he doesn't like it here?  From his reaction at the end, I'd say that was true.  Hung around with Ferry and Flint a lot longer than the rest of the team.

Just watched the goals and penalties.  Didn't know their first was an og from Rooney or that it was Devera who scored our second.  Dreadful penalty from Storey, no power or anything.  Wes looked stiff as a board and didn't look like saving any.  Damn it, I really thought it was going to be The Valley all over again when Flint equalised, we went down to 10 and made it to penalties.

As we came up the drive to our house, my son burst into tears and announced 'I don't want to support Swindon anymore mummy, it's too upsetting'.  I know how he feels ........

Absolutely knackered after that. Brentford absolutely shat all over us in the first half and we were lucky to go in a goal down. The second half, however we were pretty bloody good after Roberts the useless bag of fucking shit gave the ball to Donaldson. Devera took his goal well and Flints goal was met with a good old style bundle on the terraces.
Collins coming on changed the game as we finally had someone battling for the ball and bringing others into the game. Moving Ferry into the middle did us no harm.
Fods kept us in the game at times but should not have been beaten for their 2nd. Also, just fucking stand up at penalties - his movement showed the penalty takers which way to go.
Byrne was fucking useless who was totally fucked over by Donaldson. His first yellow was never a yellow. Wad had a decent game as did Devera. Flint was not far off MOM. The midfield was totally non existent for the first half. Rooney and Williams were totally fucking useless.
I'd very happily see Williams and Roberts fuck off in the summer and replaced by players who may be technically worse but actually give a fuck.
Special mention again to the ref who was another shit cunt. Again Brentford players leave their feet and elbows in and nothing.  Again, their fucking cheating and diving went unpunished. in the 2nd half Donaldson was allowed to dribble the ball into the box with his hand and again nothing.
Did we actually get a decision on both games.
Fuck Brentford the cheating cunts and Yeovil are no fucking better.
Also lay off Miles. He had the guts to take one and he got it on target.

I can't believe how deflated I feel. I never thought we would go through, but was really excited at the prospect. To come back to 3-3 was an amazing effort. Really proud of the team for that. The sending off spoiled our momentum. Don't agree that Byrne was a liability, but must say that McCormack and DeVita overlapped well once he'd gone off.

Aden Flint was immense. I really hope that he is at the club a very long time. Gives 110% all of the time and looks to me to be improving each game. Made a good partnership with Ward too I thought.

Fodderingham kept us in the game with a couple of good saves. Never looked like saving a penalty though. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes.

Devera looked exactly what he is, a centreback playing out of position.

Luongo will be no great loss.

Byrne was ok. Had his hands full against a v good striker today.

McCormack is a trier, but, unless he is surrounded by better players, he struggles at this level.

Ferry is a shadow of himself when not in the middle.

Roberts is very one footed and past his best. Wouldn't be sorry to see him go.

Williams was awful today. Totally anonymous. He seems to have severe confidence problems. Can't afford to carry him.

Rooney was good in the box, but poor outside. I thought Collins was the same.

Storey was anonymous. See he's gone for the stupid haircut and silly penalty run up. We see where that has got him.

DeVita looked to have a solid game. Didn't do anything spectacular, but gave us a bit more forward momentum.

See you in a few months I guess.

Haven't read the whole thread so not sure if anyone has already asked, but did anyone happen to record it and would it be possible for them to put it on DVD for me? Just got home and my bloody sky+ recording has failed!!!

Couldn't help cringing every time that "she said no Clayton" song went around. Surely they got the wrong guy? Clayton McDonald? Ched Evans' mate? Made us look right plebs.

You really have a knack for highlighting the negative.

Looks like there are highlights at 11.30 tomorrow on SS1, if you cannot.

Dutchstfc32 ‏@dutchstfc32 34m
@JedMcCoy sorry if I was out of order at the griffin, but to me our chairmen should be in the boardroom not drinking in pubs with us.

 :pint:

Oh fuck off with having a go at me, it's all you seem to have done lately.    

Sorry for not being completely over the moon about the the new manager, new board and what lays ahead.

I need a break from it all tbh and genuinely wish I'd gone with my gut instinct of not renewing my ST.

It was meant slightly tongue in cheek but feel free to be insulted.

The criticism of Storey in particular was incredibly unfair, to blame Wes for not saving any of the penalties after he kept us in the game for so long is just ridiculous and suggesting Luongo is culpable for our loss on penalties over two legs is completely ignoring the fact his goal gave us a massive boost in the first leg.

I'm sure you're as disappointed as anyone but there were so many positives from today that you chose to ignore. I suppose you've overlooked MacDonald's decision to go 4-5-1 which effectively gave us control in midfield and handed us the momentum to mount a comeback?

The season ended when Di Canio left. Flint's goal aside I really didn't enjoy the day, it was bad from the moment I got out of bed.

I can see a large player turnover in the summer, hard to predict what is going to happen. MacDonald needs a good start or he won't last long.

Of course having Simon Ferry in the middle helped....

Absolutely.

Any sites where I can see the highlights? Dodgy sites are ok.

I am absolutely drained.

I reckon i've spent over 16 hours on trains this weekend.

Totally worth it for Flintys header alone.

They won but they have no class whatsoever ,despicable cheating cunts,neither have the majority of their fans-more interested in taunting us than actually celebrating.Couldnt believe Ward being booked for time wasting when their keeper was doing it for the last 20 fucking minutes.Collins and Flint superb for Town.Still,saved meself a couple of hundred quid I spose.

It was wonderful hearing their fans moan about Ward and Macca time wasting when they'd been doing it since the first half. Weren't keeping the ball in the crowd when you weren't winning were you - stupid fuckwits.

Cheers, will put that in the planner and hope it records! Would rather the whole game if anyone does have it though?

Emotionally and physically drained after that! Not sure I'll say too much more...it's already been said!

If we'd have won would our fans have showed a bit of class? I doubt it.

Someone said the ref in the 1st game was poor. I think that today's ref did much more to ruin our chances than the other Yorkie.

Jed needs to stop acting like 'one of the lads' and concentrate on running the Club properly. Fucking embarrassing seeing him outside the pub with the fans.

And so......the season is over.

Had a good day but shit way to end it all.

Missed the train by seconds in reading and next one didn't stop at nam....will look back through tomorrow.

Good night.

Can we keep Shaw Rosso as our Matchday Thread starter? They always brighten up my late friday nights/early saturday mornings.

What did he do?

There's no room for sentiment in football....ultimately SR has come up short, so questions need to be asked. It's a demanding position, SWS lost his knighthood for a lacklustre start to the season after winning Div 4.

Haven't bothered to read back through, and I've just got back in from drowning my sorrows at the pub ( :pint:) so apologies if I repeat anything/flog a dead horse.

So proud to be a Swindon fan after that display. First half was shite. Second half, with Kmacs very quick and insightful subs, was much, much better. The periods where we played the ball on the floor led to our goals, and the players can be nothing but proud as to how well they put their shifts in today. There were mistakes, yes, and people will be quick to villify certain players (Roberts/Storey/Luongo/whoever), but they all worked their socks off today, and you can't but help feeling sorry for them, as they have felt sorry for us (see various town player's twitter feeds for apologies/disappointment etc.)

Ref was fucking shite (and had a really shit moustache). Sending Byrne off for being shoved over by Donaldson onto the ball was a fucking ridiculous decison, especially considering the cheating that the Brentford players insisted on perpetuating throughout the entire game. If there was one team outside the Premiership that I would call 'cheating fucking cuntbags that sucked shite through a hose', it would definitely be Brentford. Simply on ungentlemanly conduct charges, they should have had players sent off three or four times. Donaldson deliberately placing himself in front of our centre backs and then backing into them, forcing them to stand their ground, and then appealing for a foul was such a blatant and repeated offence I am fucking pissed that the ref and linesmen didn't catch it and send him off for being a cheating bastard attempting to subvert the laws of the game.

That last minute Flint header is something I will never forget. I nearly knocked myself out jumping up and down in celebaration in my (low ceilinged) house.

We have had zero luck since the year 2013 started, and I will wager that it's only going to get worse this summer, with huge sweeping clearance sales of players, and any future redevelopment being put on hold. But, as a Swindon fan, I will, weirdly, cherish this loss for the passion and desire the players put onto the pitch, for the 1800 ST holders who turned up at 7am in the morning so they could go to West London and experience this.

We are Swindon. We have belief, we have passion, we have pride. And we will make it, one day.

On a more personal note, I am loathe to say it, but I hope Brentford win at Wembley, because if Yeovil go up I will never hear the fucking end of it. I wore my town shirt in the pub with pride tonight, and will continue to do so always. We were written off by so many (including the Sky commentary/pundit team, who were practically circle jerking about Brentford/Donaldson the entire match) , but we took it right down to the wire, and we can only have a deep sense of acheivement and pride in that.

We may not have played our best today, and our team may not have been as strong as it has been in recent years, but I feel we were cheated, and, in the future (I hope), we can look back on this day as one of the true epics.

EDIT: I retain the right to take some of this back tomorrow.

Don't take it back - you got it spot-on  :)

Other than praising KMac for what he should have been doing all along  :D

I'm just glad this season is over and that we went out with a bit of fight.

Will be very interesting to see what happens over the close season, see who leaves and who signs.

We were that close. Not blaming Storey for volunteering, but I was nervous seeing him step up for a kick. (Flint too for that matter.) Wasn't the line-up i was expecting. Where were at least two from Ward, McCormack and De Vita?

Ah well, sod 12-13 now. It's Fods I'll miss.

Well, result aside, I really enjoyed the day. That last minute equaliser will live long in my memory.

What frustrates me is why do some players only take two steps to take a penalty? Is it being too cocky?

Just a guess but maybe a short run up minimises the chance of changing your mind where you are going to put it? Beppe signori used to take 1 step and was pretty good at it.

That said, I'd much rather storey took a long run up and whacked it down the middle. Ah well!

Not sure if it's already been mentioned but out of 4 Brentford goals we gave them 3 on a plate.

That is quite frustrating.

It wasn't a dig at storey, I just can't understand why some players do it in such an important game. You can't get enough power behind the ball surely? Some players have done it and done it well, but some players shouldn't do it.

Nope, have you not read there is a fire sale going on and it will be youths next year, I understand that we have a 7 year old lined up for starting the threads.

But it was OK when Wray would mingle with the fans?

Exactly.

Did Wray ever turn up in pubs though?

oh dear..

https://twitter.com/JoshHadland

if that was last night what's the problem?

Is that after last night? If so we can hardly blame them! I needed more than a bloody pint after yesterday's game!

I'm not against a player having a beer and I don't know when or what time this was taken (or even if they were drinking) but sat in a pub surrounded by pints whilst wearing STFC training gear is slightly thick.

 if that's yesterday,  that was a well earned pint

 
Agree, Luke Rooney did some pretty intense warming up.  :)

I think you need to read my post again.  I said Storey's penalty was dreadful and had no power, which was true.  I was stating a fact not making a criticism particularly.   As for blaming Wes, I did nothing of the sort.  He got a knock at the end of the game, which subsequently affected his ability to get near any of the penalties.  A number of others have picked up similar points, so I'm hardly alone.

I haven't overlooked Macdonalds decision to change the formation, but you seem to have overlooked the fact it also coincided with him moving Ferry into his rightful position where he should have been from the start.

Yes, I am very disappointed and not feeling very well either, which isn't helping.  This season promised so much and for all the reasons that have been done to death, failed to deliver in the end.  Although I don't think we'd have been good enough for the Championship and subsequently struggled, it's unlikely League 1 will ever be so weak again.  Chances need to be taken when they're on offer, as they don't come round very often.

 I heard yesterday that there were new owners ready to take over, but that was on the basis we were in the Championship.  If true, that could be why Jed delayed providing responses to questions.  Maybe he genuinely couldn't provide clarity until he knew which league we were going to be in.  

This is my point

WARNING - SELF INDULGENT RANT BELOW:

Scheduling - utter joke. To get pissed around as two games within 48 hours so we can play second fiddle to a contractual obligation game between fucking Stoke and Sunderland? Total treatment of the division with contempt.

Pride? No - just annoyance we gave a mediocre side too many goals to catch up from, never mind the stagger to the end.

The Brentford narrative  - really fucking annoying. Great "character"? Character to blow promotion through a selfish egotist taking a penalty when he wasn't meant to? No. To play the first leg as an utter exercise in cowardly negativity? Very brave. To blow a 3-1 lead? Heroic? To not finish off 10 men in extra time, plus an injured keeper? Great! Never mind the million realities. They won, therefore they had character. Utter brain dead result orientated garbage.

That's the annoying thing, we couldn't escape this division at it's worst for as long as I can remember. Anyway, that's that. Time to roll the sleeves up and get stuck into Jed Howeverhis nameis spelt and his random apostrophes until he coughs up what's going on.

Unfortunate reality. Its not like we can even say we will have a great base to build on for next season :(

That said, even when we did have a great base to build on Wilson got us relegated.

FWIW Jo, most people around me were bemoaning K-Macs starting lineup/starting tactics. Your views are hardly unique to you!

Oh and the beer photo - if it was post match who the fuck cares.

Exactly

Williams is a pusey and gives in far to easy, would like to see him on the wing if hes still here next season, but would still need to man up.

Yes, I met him in the Moonrakers once!!  And didn't Mr Wippy invite fans to the Glue Pot!!

A mate met Whippy through business...when he discovered he was a Town fan, he asked what he could do to make himself more popular with the fans...my mate somewhat jokingly suggested going in the CGH etc and meeting some of them. Voila, it came to pass.

I don't particularly have a problem with Jed's laddish behaviour, as long as it's backed up with substance in the role. So far that is debatable at best.

I think it's fair to say after this season those lads have earned a fucking pint.

Don't get me wrong, Call Me Jed is far from convincing me but people do seem to be judging him for things the previous board did to acclaim- heading to the pub, handing out youth contracts etc.

I think the problem people have is that there are still unanswered questions, still problems in board/fan communcation that need to be sorted out, distrust at their motives, no sign of a plan or core principle for the fans to sink their teeth into, just Jed ladding it up at the pub and on Twitter. I'm not saying he's not a professional businessman, but I can understand why some people would think he shouldn't be there.

As with the tie thing, it's a matter of presentation with Jed.  He needs to decide whether he wants to be Chairman, or everyone's best mate/drinking partner.  A couple of examples from his twitter feed from the last 24 hrs:

JedMcCoy @JedMcCoy   12h 
@Charlotte_Lloyd ha.. Why thank you Charlotte .. Was u at griffin today ..?.

JedMcCoy @JedMcCoy   22h 
@ChrisDGuitarist cheers Chris means a lot mate .. Griffin bar at 2.15 it is then ..;).. #COYR ..

Presentation matters.  And in my view, he doesn't present himself as a Chairman should.  Still not warming to him, I'm afraid.

I can't see how that matters one iota. I cannot imagine how it would effect his ability to do his job one little bit.

"Was u at Griffin today?"

Someone lamp the fucking plank.

You need to back your behaviour up with substance...the previous Board told us early doors 3 basic things 1 Not throwing money at it. 2 Start by tackling "low hanging fruit" 3 Money available for the odd young player identified as having sell on value.

So at first we saw...no agent fees, tidying up of the Winners...lick of paint and ad boards outside the TE, the pic frieze on Arkells/TE corner etc.  Purchase of Cox, Ritchie, Caddis, Ferry, Flint.

Jed came in and told us...if KMac still wanted Pack etc, it could happen. Budget for next season would match this. Boxes in the DRS.

If all this happens, then all well and good, of course we need to wait and see.

There's no evidence he is able to do the job as yet though is there he just seems to be blagging it as he goes. The outright lies he told to the adver about Powers history are what made my mind up that he can't be trusted. Add in the fact that Lee Power is an ex business partner of Mike Diamandis until they fell out and by all accounts just as dodgy and the whole thing stinks!

:o :o

First we've heard of this...do you have anything to back it up?

Do elaborate.....

Flint has impressed me everytime he has played tbh. So he hoofs the ball, I couldnt care less tbh! His job is to stop the other fuckers scoring and he did a damn good job yesterday. Up to the CM to drop back and pick the ball up off him so he doesnt have to hoof it

Can you understand others might see that it does though? As Ardiles said, it's a perception thing.


Oh here we fucking go again.

Considering it won't make the slightest bit of difference I find it very petty. Perhaps some people do see it as a perception thing or whatever, I think it's scraping the barrel. 

There's potentially other things to be genuinely concerned about. This is not one of them.

Let's start with the fact Jed said to the adver he was only with Cre8 for a month..... Anyone with one iota of intelligence soon proved that to be false. Even once he had removed himself it was registered to an anonymous Swiss account and where does a Power happen to hold residence now? I don't want Power anywhere near this football club and if he's the type of person Jed is bringing with him then it tells me all I need to know.

Anybody with one iota of intelligence would not expect other people to just take their word for it.....

Links please!

So your lack of evidence is backed up by the mind of a conspiracy theorist? COINCIDENCE?!?!?

This was all done to death in the last month and you know it and all the links you need from the Jed article to the companies house snapshots are in other threads. I can never work out with you whether you are intentionally out to antagonise people and belittle their opinions or just so remote to the club you don't get much of an insight bar what is posted on here...

What do you mean.

It's an anonymous Swiss solicitor. Who else could it possibly be?

What the actual fuck? I only asked for some links.

Let's try this instead then. If it has been done to death in the last month, on which thread will I find these links because I must have missed it.

Flashheart's job is to provide some balance in the debates on the conduct of the Board...it's similar to how a defence lawyer, attempts to present an argument for a heinous villain, when knowing they're as guilty as fuck.

It's actually quite normal Reg for people to demand evidence before deciding innocent or guilt.

That's all I'm doing. Would like to see these links that prove Jed was lying, if they exist. Perhaps you could direct me to them Reg?

This is the quote...

"At Cre8 Publishing he was a director for one month before it changed ownership. Lee resigned from the board, he then moved to Switzerland and two years later Cre8 ceased trading – which he had nothing to do with."

...it's suspected that Jed may be economical with the actualite here.

Evidence people, show me some evidence that Jed is a crooked bastard and I'll happily believe it. Until then, I'm not going to judge him. The summer will reveal all I would hope, one way or another.

I know about that. Where's the evidence that quote is a lie?

That theakston guy gets all indignant and goes on the attack when asked to back up his claims, all he needs to do is give us a link.

Careful now people, crooked is far removed from not having the ability and/or finances to run the club ;D

For me thus far Jed himself has, as someone has already started, all blag and blah blah without substance, continual "manyarner" to almost everything and virtually silent on where the club is headed.

There are however question marks about who has been invited to the board....

I want to hear from this Crouch chappie.

he so far seems to have the most credibility. Not been confirmed as director  yet though, unless linked in is the new official way of communicating things.

No, that's Twitter.

On another note it was interesting that Brentford were able to bring in 4 new players in the second that were 'rested' from the first leg. One of them, Trotta, we were unable to get near when he was on the pitch. We clearly had injuries but if PDC hadn't been such an intolerable ring piece and included some recall clauses on our loans, we might have been able to do something similar.

For our unchanged 11 to play 2 intense matches in less than 48 hours was pretty good going.

Diagouraga was the biggest influence for them. Absolutely immense in midfield. Just the type of player we need(ed) in fact.

Who did we have him on loan from?

He is quality. He looked decent when we had him on loan too i thought. Better than anyone in our midfield.

Was it Watford? (Can't be bothered to google it)

Watford

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toumani_Diagouraga

Yeah Watford but it was 7 years ago now. He's hardly had a glittering career since. FWIW i quite like him but don't think he's any better than what we have on a consistent basis. Where was he in the first leg for example?

I'm going to leave it now but I just hope that once the club finally receives the few million we'll get from the late Nigel (can't remember his surname) estate that it will be spent wisely and set the club up for the long term. I believe it comes with a clause that it can only be spent on the youth set up and stadium so that is something positive at least.

do wot?

Estate of who millions what now?

I think he's making plans for Nigel.

 :toocool:

Speak to Roger Bunce he knows a lot more about it than I do. But basically a town fan left his entire estate to club when he passed away last season worth circa £3m or 4m on the proviso that it is spent on the ground and youth set-up. In the grand scheme of football it's not a lot but it's a hell of a gesture and if used right could help kick start the club. Last I heard his old faded scarf was now kept in the boardroom at the club.

Are you on about Nigel Eady? I remember some talk about him last pre season on here and his estate being left to STFC, never saw if there was any truth in it or not.

Like I said can't remember his surname but just found the old thread on here after you mentioned it. Roger confirmed it's legit though, he has left pretty much his entire estate to the club.

SO if KMac may not be here who is going to renew contracts? the board sure as hell won't. :beers:

?

Read somewhere in one of the topics that KMac said he only has a deal until the end of the season on the radio and said he would be talking to JEd tonight. If he will not be here then who will renew the contracts of the likes of Flint, Thompson and Mcormack. Yes the board carry them out but surely they will say they want to wait for the new manager to decide who they want to stay.  :hmmm:

Shaun Hodgetts asked if the paer talk was true that KMac only had a contract until end of season and KMac denied it - but didnt disclose length of his deal - but said he'd better go home and check his contract but that he expected to be here next season but had to speak to owners / chairman about budgets for next season so he can decide on players

It was also mentioned that there are 3 youth players invited back for pre-season so KMac can have another look at them before offering them a contract, not sure if these were included in the 5? reportedly offered deals

The best penalties are toe pokes down the middle. You control the direction and height easily.

I thought he had a 2 and a half year contract unless there was some get out clause if we didn't get promoted?  When did Shaun Hodgetts ask him this?

in terms of the 3 youth players being invited back for training, they are in addition to the 5 who were offered contracts.

The best penalties are the ones that go in.

You could hit a belter towards the far corner, but if the keeper guesses right!

Massive difference.

Wray wouldn't act like he was 'one of the boy's, out on the piss'.

Oh I've heard stories about Wray's nights out... Not dissimilar to the Hangover films..

Was there a Monkey involved?

Only the News Monkey.

Was asked after yesterdays game, the length of contract was always kept quiet, the press believed it to be 2.5 years but never confirmed for some odd reason.

It is concerning that they are looking at keeping so many youth players, that is potentially 8, that is a lot of squad places taken for next season with 1st year pro's, that is the most taken on that I can remember for many years

The three asked to come back are the ones left from the second year scholars not already offered contracts. The fact that some are even being considered is insane. Nowhere near good enough to make pro i'm afraid.

I'm not having a go arriba but do you think any of them (including those from the 5 being kept on already) are good enough to make pro?

Oakley and Thompson could go on to have decent careers imo. I like Ferguson and Francis too but don't rate their chances as highly as the other 2. Waldon is a good forward but it's the hardest place of all to make it so has it all to do. The other 3 asked back have no chance imo. There are better lads playing college football.

 We have let plenty of very good players go over the years who i'd argue are better then some of them kept this term as they were not up to the grade required. I'd love them all to make it and be big players for STFC,just cannot see it though.

Ta. I know you will have seen a lot more of them than me (which won't be difficult as i've only watched their brief cameo's for the first team plus the youth game v Liverpool).

I too like what i see of Thompson and i know Oakley is highly rated. Ferguson not seen enough (just the youth game when he did OK but maybe not the best game to judge) and Francis and Waldon look like they try hard which is a good start if nothing else. I'm happy we're giving youth a chance as no doubt you are, it is a worry for what might happen in the summer but whatever will be will be.

I would add, which i'm sure you'll agree, just because we've let good players go in the past, it's not a reason not to keep them on. In fact maybe it's more a reason to keep them on, so we don't make the same mistake again.

Didn't Jed state they wanted to create a develoment/under 21's squad next season. Could all be for that.

Well, I've hurt a lot more after football games and walking away from the stadium it didn't quite feel how a penalty shoot out loss should, or normally does.  Hadn't even crossed the rail bridge behind the ground before discussion and thought centred on next year.  We'll no doubt look back at this season in the coming years with fondness, just because of the rollercoaster ride it's been.  But ultimately we'll be kicking ourselves for not getting out of a very weak league one.  With all the money sloshing around the championship, and potentially more clubs in league one still on massive PL parachute payments, it's going to be very tough over the next few years for little old Swindon working on a shoe string.

On one final note, that celebration for our third was fucking epic.  Those few minutes will last long in the memory and we may never experience anything that dramatic again (depending how old you are!).  In some ways, that goal alone and everything that went with it was more than I was hoping for out of the game. 

I was telling people that today. Can't remember going quite that mental after a goal before!

Ive got a 6 inch gash on the back of my groin from that. Im sorry i kissed your head too Steve, i thought it was the lucky egg from cool runnings.

I had hoped to put one up the twat dressed up as a manky rabbit swinging carrots but that goal was fucking great.

about yesterday.cant fault the effort,we could easily have been hammered.its the hope that kills you.what i find worrying , and alienating is the style of football. constant long ball. maybe our players are not good enough to play a more technical game., however ardiles managed it with limited players and good coaching.I find it difficult to assimilate that with our manager playing for Liverpool.As for Miles Storey,hope that doesnt affect his future. Far better players have missed in shoot outs.

An interesting point that - anybody able to guess how he was able to do the seemingly impossible?  Is it just that nobody else tries to convert hoofers to ballers (perhaps thinking it safer to "play to their strengths"), or that the general standard of the opposition was different/worse back then?

More technical approach I guess, the continental way, and given the way football has progressed certainly ahead of his time in regards to the way he set the team up. We also played a division higher so the opposition would have been a bit more 'baller savvy.

Other managers have done it since. O/driscoll at Doncaster,Martinez at Wigan to name a couple.Its not the easy way or more importantly not the English way.Go to your local park and see the type of football thats appreciated.I have followed Swindon for 40+ years, and still will do. However i want a bit of style.Strangely, found the successful Macari years awful to watch.

the first few games when Kmac took over we played better football than we ever did under di candio. At coventry away we knocked the ball around the best i've seen for a few years and dominated them.

I think kmac came in and tried to get them to play, results started going against us and he went back to what had been working, as we'd been pretty direct under di canio

I want to see what he does with a pre season under his belt before judging

Karl Robinson made a good point on the sky coverage, premier league bosses are more likely to give young players to k mac because of his reputation with young players, that could be very good news for us in the loan market.

nine were given pro contracts in early 2008 by Fitton no less

Does anyone know where I can watch the highlights?

Are the highlights available anywhere as I've yet to watch the goals and wouldn't mind seeing our third again. Cheers

http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/286197/video

Not long got back from Germany... What did I miss?

Yikes.

Is it because I'm outside the UK or is this just MacDonald talking?

It is. My mistake, didn't check. Usually works ok.

Thanks Sippo

clicked on that and just found a KMac interview thats all