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Have just got in , we should of won  but we didnt , the only conclusion i got from this game is Williams is shit and a total waste of space .

Im trying not to be negative  , but he is shit

Williams is shit

edit: I think i  rated Mr Williams as someone who might come good but no , he , is shit

fair play , cos that's what everyone is talking about

I get the impression the only thing he's shit at is putting the ball in the net.

I'd have him on the wing or as a trequartista, depending on the formation. There's a great player in there, just not as striker.

Not as shit as you are as a fan.

I take it you haven't watched him then ?

ok ........why?

But he's as shit a fan as he is a poster to be fair, so least he's consistent. And I'm not talking about Williams.

Twice (I think)

The first time he excited me. The last time (Yeovil), he came alive in the 2nd half.

Am i ? really ?

Not one of his better games but this is Div 1 and he has done ok. Sure could do better as could a few others but I don't do shit players who try,

Hi , i know im not regular on here but at least i go to games , so when i say someone is shit , i dont expect some cunt who listened to the commentary on the radio to tell me im wrong . ok

To be completely honest I couldn't say, as I don't recall any of your posts before the last 10 minutes.

Nor do i , but have you noticed he bottles every header and every challenge

Which is a problem when thats what he's paid to do

Hi, I go to games.

Anyone can see that Williams is far from shit. Top league 1 player? No. Reasonable League 1 player who brings certain qualities to our team? Yes

Oh dear

Which is why he may be better utilised in a different position. Such as the positions I stated that you chose not to put in bold.

Those two traits are not his strengths for sure but I don't do "shit" for players who wear the shirt but I'm old school and get behind players who try.

Where ?

Has someone been on the sauce?

Over 1300 games now and still going strong. Williams ain't shit.

someone had too much sherry in their trifle.

Do you think i boo the players when im there ? im slagging them off on here because this is the place to do it . Im pretty sure you all will have opinions on players who were not good enough to play , im saying Williams

But have you ever listened to Swindon Town FC on the radio? If so, it, unfortunately, invalidates your opinion, so Williams is still categorised as shit (according to some).

not at all , if anyone knows football , i dont mind players being shit but trying . But that twat either is  not trying or is shit

Hi, i've not been to a game for nearly a decade and a half and even i know williams isnt shit. ok

You being serious? Have you not had a drink today?

yeah , dont change my opinion and probably enforces it , Williams is shit

does trifle have another f in it? it just doesn't look right to me. this troubles me.

Williams isn't one of Paolos best buys but he is certainly better than constable and he tried to by him.

On who's opinion?

I like Williams, he clearly isn't shit. In fact, I actually like him a lot.

However, he is frustrating in that he could finish better and I would even agree that he occasionally appears to bottle out of challenges.

I would play him on one wing, with Roberts on the other and Collins and A Rooney up front.

soapy tit wank.... Ironic that I loose Wiltshire Radio just as I get to the junction of the A420 at Poxford when it joins the A34. I then tune into Radio Oxford especially if they have lost just to hear the fans phone in.

Fuck me it cheers me up when needed. Today was another of those days.
Priceless.

run away it's a triffid.

On the wing ? because he is a great winger?

Hi , just leave this to me

triffic.

Mine.

You're quirky. Do keep on posting stuff.

Errrr......yes.....I think he would play well as an out and out winger.....is this a trick? ???

.

I would go with that with the players we currently have at our disposal.
Charlie Austin in the middle. If only.

Not really , cos he cant cross for shit ,

Oh I see. I didn't know that.

You win.

Nice to see you back to your old ways Gerry.

Keep trollin'.

Exactly , my opinion having watched him play all season

I've listened to many games, I've been to many games, a few times when I was lonely and the atmosphere was crap I even listened to the game whilst watching the game. Today I did none of the above. So I won't comment.

You don't mean Gerry Stilton??....do you? :hmmm:

You . haven't , sussed that it ' s him ?

Oh fucking please no.

Nah, but I'm no good at that sort of thing.

Heh! heh!


Gerry's back - ace 8)

No fucking way.

Is Stilton just a MickeyHWG, or is he serious?

nice one you found me out .

is this really how bad on this site that anything against the kissing some cunts ass you are vilified ? COCA I LOVE YOU AND DOYS

by the way im really quite normal  , if my opinions hurt , tough

Fuck me comic relief is over for another year.

He's just nuts.

Gerry, Gerry !

Mentalist .

Ha ha.

Oh wait, he's not the one off the Trust forum that used to claim he was an ex-copper is he?

how many on here went to the game today ?

Oh him?

I'm amazed at how some of you remember who everybody is. I think my brain is too small.

How is that even a argument ?

Yep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTeO9GU4t5c

163, we took a headcount

Funny how you remember the special ones.

I did Gerry . It was very cold and i have only just got the feeling back on my ears , hands and toes .

The bovril , burger and sausage roll was very nice though . .

What did you think of Andy Williams today by chance ? I didnt think he did too badly to be honest .

Have you taken your drugs today ? ? ?

The punctuation was a dead giveaway since months ago, but I'll give it to him, he managed a good 400+ posts before letting go. That's admirable.

I did Macca was shit.

Williams had a poor game and is lacking in confidence. He's still more likely to scare the shit out of the opposition than any of our other attackers with his pace.

What the fuck does it matter? We (or at least most of us as far as I can tell) don't agree with you - and we have seen him play. Let's just leave it at that.

And navarro , bloody toss the pair of them

I don't think shady (Dosty) managed 200

Fucking hell you should be in the CID. How did you work that out ?

Why didn't Fods hold that one he pushed over the bar.

Everyone was pissing their pants over him early season saying he was Paolo's best buy when he was on his scoring run.  He is just lacking in confidence, anyone can see that.  But to be fair it was Rooney and Collins that had the guilt edge chances today and should have scored, I can't see why williams is copping the flack and they are not?

Now I like him. He loves Shrewsbury as I love Oxford. Dosser in.

Fair play Samdy. I would never have twigged :D

Now you mention it, even the way he types his user name is similar to his old name -IT'S LOVE - or something like that. Only a complete nut job would type their user name in capita....oh....wait ???

I think we played brilliantly today ( i was there ) , Navarro had the best game ive seen him play  , cant argue  about Flint or any of the defenders or Ferry  .  Rooney wasn't great and as for Willliams ......... Just fucking score you cunt

I love that the TEF has multiple loons.

Now that I can't disagree with 8)

So were you actually at the game today Gerry?

why  do you disagree with that?

I like to grind my teeth in time with the paper feeder on the scanner in the office. does anybody else have such a habit?

McEveley wasn't playing so some need somebody, anybody, to vent their frustrations at.

You don't know what he disagreed with later, you weren't there man, you weren't there.

They mostly come at night, mostly.

Who's Gerry?

Habit??...I thought that was how you made it work ???

I have it on very good authority it is you Gerry.

I thought everybody did that

So Williams is now at #2 in the scapegoat list?

To be fair I thought he was the poorer of the 3 strikers today.

Looks like it. Miller's a very very close third I would guess.

The first rule of Gerry .

Dont talk about Gerry

Wise words 8)

a weight has been lifted off my mind this evening. cheers.

Williams is gonna cost us the league ...

er , but when i say it  im destroyed , ( in you dumb ass minds )

The embargo, whatever the reason for its being is, will cost us promotion... if anything does.

Nothing to worry about there , ask Flasheart

I don't think he's shit. Nor do I think he will cost us the league. I just thought he could have played better today.

HTH.

I thought Miller (before injury) and Navarro had their best games in a Swindon shirt today.

NO , he's shit ,

In his last 66 football league appearance he has scored 29 goals, judge for yourself based on that if he is shit or not.

i think i have , as have people who haven't even watched him . He will not take us up to the next level . In short i think  he is shit

Yes it is obvious you have based an opinion on what you have seen and you think he is shit, or am I missing something?

nope , thats  spot on

I don't think its you that's missing something.

Here you go Gerry:

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I heard on the radio the other day that he's quite good.

Is he Sam Parkin, Charlie Austin or Simon Cox? No, not by any stretch.

Is he Jamie Slabber, Petr Mikolanda or Calvin Andrew? Absolutely not.

He's a good to middling League One striker. Nothing special, but some distance from being shit.

Nah , i watched him today , and he his shit . Try it yourself , you will see

Williams probably was the poorer of the 3, but to say he's shit when he was the only player scoring our goals early season is OTT IMO.

No player was shit today, but the finishing from all players was poor.

This is all true.

Oh fuck off and learn to use a comma properly then.

learn to tell a joke.............etc  . just cos my opinion is not the same as yours.  Again who was there today ?

Call me what you want , but ive just renewed my season ticket ,so i think i can call it as i see it , tough if you dont agree .

William's done nothing today, and his goal scoring record this season is nothing special either, he had one good season up front for Yeovil, but I'm sill not convinced he is a strong enough forward every week, and possibly he should be playing behind a front two or go back to playing as a winger as he is very good at bringing others into the play. 

I went to the game today.  You are wrong about Williams and obviously wrong about so many other things, like starting a thread like this.

Not saying he is the best player in the world but starting a thread like this?

Fair enough , you where there and that's your  honest opinion. My opinion , he was shit and if he scored the chances he had , we would of won the league already .

And unlike Flashheart & co who appear to spend most of their lives on the Swindon Town chat forum attention seeking and trying to undermine real fans for some form of sad gratification, but who have not bothered to see their team play for five years, I was at the game today and have had a season ticket for many years.

Fuck off.

Point proven...

I didn't even realise there was a point, I just don't like you.

You do know some people are unable to go don't you?  Not everyone lives in Swindon or the UK.

You are just a bit of a cock really aren't you?

Trouble is the more opionated people on here are the ones that don't even go .

I don't care , everyone's welcome  as far as  i'm concerned

I think it's best to see football like going to visit your favourite prostitute. It's overpriced, and probably not as great as you make out to your buddies, but you're in for the season ticket discount and you're too proud to back down now.

Obviously you're right down there in the action with your prostitute (football watching), enjoyable or not, you've paid your moneys you get what's given. Sometimes though, it might be the little pervs looking through the window (radio) who have a different view, maybe they can see things that you can't when you're all up front. The bigger picture or something.

They've also just cum on your double glazing.

Maybe ,  unlike you ( i take it you are talking from experience ) i've never had to pay for sex . 

I Wouldn't mind someone watching me though ( how much you charge )

Do you think it never occurred to me that some fans live aboard? It's fairly obvious that I'm not that silly and was only referring to a select section of fans in context, but in keeping with a lot of your posts you appear to be a deluded self righteous cunt, so do make sure you keep up your very important work of pointing out when people are wrong on the Swindon chat forum.


 

I dunno if you get metaphors, but I thought you went to the game today?

You want to be a commentator now? And will pay for me to listen?

I don t post on here much, but read it a lot, it seems like there is a developing Cleak of opiniated individuals who spend lots of time  posting on here and think their post count contributes to the validity of their opinions (flash heart etc)

They all back each other up by ganging up on anyone with an alternative view, it's really gone down hill over the last year or so.

Cue a tirade against me.....

I did go to the game today/yesterday , and i do get metaphors . The question was how much does a little perv charge for  watching ?

Do you really think your shit's funny? Just I find you about as funny as AIDS.

John 11:35

 let's not . soapy tit wank

Yeah, you fucking idiot

come again?

It's an interesting philosophical debate. I thought Terry Gibson was utter shit and was annoyed, at the time, he got to wear the shirt. But Gibson was arguably a better player than Williams. But I don't think Williams is shit, yet he is frustrating at times, which can breed annoyance. I guess it's all relative. Each to their own and all that.

Ive gave Williams his chance , ive wanted him  , believed in him  , fucking bet on him . But after watching him yesterday , ive come to the conclusion he is shit .


As is Terry Gibson

I agree there are some cyber bullys / trollers / general attention seekers hiding under the guise of having been on here a long time who all slap each other on the back and support each other in attacking other members who just want to talk about football, but fuck um I'm a real town fan and I'm staying under this username or the next.

I'm delighted to hear that

Williams is good until he gets into the box and then yes, he is shit.

I've not been to too many games this season but Williams is just inconsistent isn't he. He's not shit but nothing to get too excited about.

A lot of people on here thought Paynter was shit (and only had one good season) I'd take Billy Paynter all 3 of his years here over Andy Williams up top.

Ha ha. What a gay thread

Its a shame Paolo moved Benson on, he was better than Paynter.

Better finisher definitely and exactly what he lack.

Better overal than Paynter, don't think so - maybe if we'd had Benson when he was a few years longer...

He has certainly been a bit shit for us. The fact I don't know what position he is may well be evidence of that. And there's nothing more frustrating than a player with a bit of pace but the touch of a rapist.

Andy Williams is better than Messi

and he sure plays a mean pinball

True, but Williams is in a better team so that's a bit unfair on Lionel.

Jigsaw - goes to pieces in the box. 😄

He's better than Ricky Shakes........his pace was frightening!

I put my hand up but nobody noticed

i did

Just a shame his feet were made out of Toblerone.

If Williams is "shit" it must be like playing with 10 men every week. Hats off to the other 10 on the pitch for getting us up to second in the league.

Well done indeed. Shame , cos if we had a decent striker we would already have won it .I think ive made my opinion clear and  that's the last i say on the matter .

I have two questions for you Gerry and I'd like you to give a straight answer to each for once...

1. Did you actually go to the game today?

2. What do you really think of Williams?

Thank you in advance.

Who's Gerry ?

I can't work out whether all the trolls are just the same person. Takes some effort to remember all those logins and the grammar you're supposed to use with each one.

Thank god for that. I was worried that you might be neglecting other important tasks like blinking or breathing.

So is Gerry=GoSWINDON=SuperMario TV=Levi Lapper perhaps? :hmmm:

If you're referring to an Austin or a Parkin then yes I agree. No doubt the other 8 or so teams going for automatic promotion could say the same too. In fact if we had Ronaldo we could be playing Champions League inside 3 years.

I think what I'm getting at is, Williams is not shit. Yes there's better players out there than he is but we have to work with what we've got. He brings a lot more to the team than just goals too.

Plus Shady, Dosty... I struggle to keep track.

Of course, that would make sense.

Serious question . Why am i a troll ? .
And again . Who the fuck is Gerry ?

I find it extremely bizarre that someone goes to such an effort to have a discussion with himself.

Yet, apparently, we're the ones with no lives...

Says who ? and please answer the above questions .

could it be to do with you saying williams is shit, flashheart having the audacity to only partially agree with you ("he's only shit at finishing") resulting in you starting a new thread to victimise flashheart? could that have anything to do with it, do you think?

Samdy knew. He knew.

You are just embarrassing yourself on the Swindon Chat forum.

I thought it was quite a reasonable thread to start , it was quite a simple question .

I love a bit if Gerry bating, it makes me quite nostalgic. Takes me back to the days of Bob 'more potential investors than you can shake a stick at' Holt, the original Samdy Gray and the Smoking Chimp 8)

wow you answered the question i posted to samdy , does that mean you are the same person ?

Any more you want to throw into the mix?

are u answering me as samdy or peter ?

I'm answering you as a sane human being.

But which one ?

The one that isn't as funny as aids.

:clap:

Good work Samdy...I just thought this was a Dosser multi, but Stilton makes Dosser look sane. I've always liked the way Stillton drives away the final posters on minor fora...Trust, Thisis, then sits in there talking to himself....proper bonkers. Could a mod create a room for him to sit in on his own, before he starts driving posters away from here?

Samdy ?  well done signing in as Reg

It's odd how these loons maintain a degree of normalcy for a while, only to then capitulate overnight into full blown insanity.

I was at the game - Williams is certainly frustrating - but shit - no way!

But everyone is entitled to an opinion and I respect yours

Thank you , it's not that difficult is it

Yep im a loon cos  you say i am

I heard it on the radio

Good for you

It's true because it's true.

Ok  Reg , Peter

Can someone please lock this twat out. Thanks.

Why ? what's samdy done thats so bad ?

 :suicide:
This, so very much this

They try, yet he keeps coming back.

It takes a very special kind of person to put so much effort into maintaining so many different persona yet still appear as a complete and total idiot.

Maybe if he applied this much effort in the real world he wouldn't be so much of an aids ridden cunt.

This! Fed up of hearing everyone say how shit he is at every game. No-one's slating Collins who also missed a sitter.

Charming , and all this because i questioned whether anyone on here went to games . I would worry more about yourself than me if you get this angry .

Back to the football , great . Yep Collins did miss a sitter and he was not the only one ,

Well done Reg for chipping in on this great cyber bully boys thread, all the old posters coming together to slap each other on the back in congratulations for making up childish and ridiculous stories that newer members are either the same person or must have mental issues, all behaving like a bunch of school bully boys needing their peers approval, pathetic and sad stuff for grown men to be carrying on like this!!

You have all disgraced yourselves on the Swindon chat forum, take the shame.  :clap:

I worry for humanity.

Do you really? , calling someone an aids infested cunt . I would worry more about yourself .

Fuck off, you're fucking boring the tits off me now

I think it's only Gerry saying it, he's just said it over and over and over again.

No, it's ok. I'm quite comfortable with my opinion of yourself. And it's aids ridden cunt, if you please.

Called the ignore button, but well done on getting yourself involved.

Good for you

Nah, would rather you just fucked off back to thisis

Thanks, it means a lot coming from you.

I just use the ignore button. fantastic invention. A bit like the on off button on the TV.

On the shit front I'd like to mention that so many people I have spoken to who said the first half at Yeovil was shit, well the game lasts 90 minutes and the second half was not. I would have taken 0-0 at half time away to them as being a great result irrespective of how we played, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as long as you don't abuse anyone personally or their opinion, otherwise you lose credibility. Which is why I now use the ignore button.

This sentence makes me want to gouge my own eyes out. Repeatedly.

It must be a real shame for you then, that I don't really give a rats arse what you think.

Please explain your views further.

It's thetownend, you massive cunt.

Sill don't get what your trying to say.

Are you arguing with yourself again?

This is deja vu all over again. Yes, as some one will always point out when a load of shit is getting posted (usually by Gerry), you can use the ignore button and it does work up to a point. I now have GoSWINDON on ignore (again) and have had supermariotv on ignore for ages. What it does not do however, is stop a thread from being totally derailed and turned to shit just because of one stupid attention seeking prick.

Exactly

I have embarrassed you and given you your internet beat down over your deluded views already today, so try and get some new materiel as you have posted about 10 times this morning that everyone is the same poster and it getting old now, and there is no need for you keep making the same deluded point over and over, you are only continuing to embarrass yourself. 




 

I don't know if Samdy will be able to show his face again again after such an embarrassment.

Andy Williams lacks mental toughness. Earlier in the season he was confident and everything was going right for him. For a little while now the opposite has been true. He's still putting the effort in most of the time as we could see in the second half vs Yeovil when his hard work helped stretch and work the Yeovil defence.

He is not shit.

Oh the shame of it

I have read all 11 pages of this shit.  :crash:
 I take back the view that everyone should be allowed to say what they like and bans shouldn't be dealt out.

Anyway, Williams isn't shit but doesn't score enough. I like him but the team lacks goals and he is part of that problem.

One thing with Williams was earlier in the season his pace seemed more obvious. Even when he was having a quiet game once or twice through a ball over the top or turning a defender he'd get a couple of one on ones by sprinting past.

Whether teams are defending deeper or he just has tired legs, I've noticed it less over the last month or so. He must have played by far the most minutes of all our forwards this season.

I think he could do with a spell on the bench , maybe play L. Rooney up top if Miles storey aint fit

If that's aimed at me , then i apologise . I do actually respect your posts

I said it earlier in the season, but an on-song Williams was our biggest attacking threat, more so than Ritchie, with his running the channels and at defenders. The problem is he appears to be very much a confidence player, and he looks low on that at the moment.

Any player who scores a goal like this is by definition not shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myJgs7CqWN4

I am pretty sure Williams is still carrying an injury, he has not been as mobile, quick and sharp since he came back from his last injury just before Christmas.

I don't think he is anywhere near 100% fully fit but we need bodies at the moment.

I still think he has the potential to come good for us and am certainly not writing him off.

The first part of this is probably right but Luke Rooney? LUKE ROONEY? UP FRONT?

Christ.

Oh lord, I missed that.

At the moment when he gets the ball , he just runs with his head down usually into the nearest defender . I think ive said before he seems like a confidence player , but keeping him on the pitch when he aint playing well isnt helping him .

he's the only player with any pace if Miles aint fit

Luke Rooney is not good enough in any position (yet) for a team looking to get promotion to league one, least of all up front

Worth a try , no -one else is scoring

The guy is far too lightweight to be playing as a striker for me.

No.

ok soapy tit wank

If Williams had a big dose of man the fuck up he would be a Championship player. He doesn't so he plays for us. If I was a defender id love to mark him.
On his day he is unplayable in this division. Like all strikers those days aren't enough.
He isn't shit but looks it at times

The Andy Williams debate reminds me a bit of Dave Bamber.

He took a lot of stick for being Lazy (which he was at times), but I always felt at the time if that wasn't the case he would have been playing for a team at a higher level than us.


FWIW, I loved Dave Bamber. I have never seen anyone who could fold their legs away quite like him :)

I swear at times his knees used to bend backward when he was challenged.

231 posts and 16 pages across three different threads merged into one clusterfuck of a car crash where one cretinous fuckwit voices a bizarre opinion and the entire forum disagrees.

I was going to just delete the thread but it would feel like aborting a baby at 8 months.

This post did make me chuckle, which is the first thing I have ever seen you post that has any sort of point to it, so maybe there is a place in this world for a loser like you after all.

awww, shucks!

just remember he's never been beaten in a debate....

No, but he probably was as a child, that's why he so angry now

I thought this cunt was dealt with

FWIW, I loved Dave Bamber. I have never seen anyone who could fold their legs away quite like him :)
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I don't know who we were playing against, but I remember a corner being taken at the town end, hitting the back of bambers  head and it went in without him even realising, legend :football:

That was the 6-0 Stoke match in 89 i believe.....although that was when he was playing for Stoke, so probably not the match you are thinking of....and it wasn't at the Town End either! Sorry, that's not very helpful....

:clap:

I enjoyed reading this post as I could almost feel the anger from it, is the serious sounding phase "I thought this cunt was dealt with" like townend chat forum mafia speak for sorting a poster out, what a sad person you really are but it's to be expected from a armchair supporter who lives on this football forum giving it big, yet has not been to see 'his' team play in almost six years.

The only person who seems to continually be 'giving it big' is you. I don't think you've really never lost an argument on the Internet,  you've probably lost most you've engaged in. You're just too much of a fuckwit to realise....

And here we go descending into arguments again.

Someone please put the troll out of his misery.

Ban this cunt. (Not you samdy)

Oh please don't makes me feel good about the TEF that we allow him his fun, like a form of charity work.

As anyone asked Gary Stilton what kind of cheeze he likes :D

Back to his point about Williams.....not been great lately but the goals v Tranmere.....the quality finish at Bournemouth not to mention the important late equaliser at Coventry suggests he aint shit.

He works his balls off every match.....he certainly is not shit.

He's Christian Roberts (without the alcoholism).

A player that's played out wide throughout most of his career, but scored enough to make you think he might be able to play down the middle; until you play him there and realise why he's been played out wide by every other fucker that ever signed him.

I had a lot of time and patience for Williams, but i'm starting to struggle to defend him... his finishing is woeful, he undoes good work with a wayward touch or shit final ball, and if i see him wimp out of another 50/50 challenge, I'd make him practice one-on-ones against either Thompson for hours on end.

Having said all that, Rooney and Collins look just as unlikely to score.

Trying to walk the ball in the net don't help either

 :D

Oh dear me, when it's all put together in one thread it's a complete head muddle.  I actually have a headache from reading it all!

This is the only time I'll ever agree with something you have to say. Congratulations.

His finishing can be very weak but this was a player who up until the new year was a game changer. He played well most games and tormented defences.

Something has knocked his confidence, or maybe he is jaded.

Rushed back from his injury in my opinion. Has he been shit since then? I think so yes
Touch of a rapist and could not trap cement

Yep, very shit

Whichever mod altered Supermario's below-name text: thank you. I snorted tea out of my nose when I read it.

Although my nasal cavity kind of hurts now...

Frustrating player but our only forward with any pace and trickery, we would miss him if he wasn't in the side.

Oh. I'm probably wrong then....

Good answer 8)

18 pages?

Not going to read back through, but from what I have seen, to me he has great pace but lacks a killer instinct of a striker. His finishing to me is wayward and he doesn't appear to be very brave.

Wouldn't say he was shit though, handy player to have in the squad but not as a Centre Forward for me.

Really cannot see why he has so much shit poured over him!  Second top scorer with 12 goals - yes of course any player could have scored more, should have scored more, would have scored more if he hadn't missed some.  But as has been said, he puts 100% in, all over the pitch, shows great speed on the turn (the bit Benson couldn't do) and is the one who attracts two defenders now that Ritchie isn't there.  Give him a break.

Good shout, couldn't agree more.

MODS - WTF, I posted 4 times as levi lapper (im not a multi-login super mario tv or whoever) and I have been banned from the forum WTF!!! Theres more free speech in North Korea. I appreciate that some thought my thread was a bit lame but fuck me if thats the criteria for getting banned then there aint gonna be anyone on here before long!

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Bye

No, you hang up.

Window licker

 :D

William(s), William(s) it was really nothing.

This thread should have ended on page 1, post number 2 with

"NO HE ISN'T"

The more this season goes on I am starting to think the thread title is correct

Up front on his own with no pacy wingers for 60 mins, the odds are against him to be fair.  We go to 442 and he comes off, then the other 2 miss easier chances than his.

I'll say it again, Williams is better than Rooney, despite the worldy today.

His first touch is awful and although he has undeniable pace to burn he just is not a striker he does not read the game , how many woulda Charlie Austin scored in this team ?

Collins missed two decent chances....but Williams gets the nod as a starter so his misses are the ones you remember.

Word!

Also Rooney scores goal of the season but fucks up the sitters!

Agreed,,,,though he scored a fantastic equaliser.....Collins and Williams didnt score with four chances between them.....so i will give Rooney the benefit on account that he ACTUALLY scored.

The problem is Williams constantly gets a start no matter how shit he plays and how many chances he wastes, I'm pretty sure he has started every game this year. We have barely seen a full game from Rooney and yes he does miss the odd sitter but he looks far more likely to score.

The constant defence of Williams is getting laughable now, he doesn't do anywhere near enough to justify a place and do what he is paid to do which is SCORE GOALS. He doesn't even create chances because he is devoid of ideas and more interested in going down than creating a chance. The complaint of missed chances has been going on for ages now and is set to continue while Williams starts every game for this club.

None, because he is better than League 1 which is why he is in the Championship.  Not really an arguement.  Williams is playing for us because he is not good enough for the championship.

Apart from score a worldy, what did Rooney do today that was better than Williams?  And would he have been able to do it if he was up front on his own with little support?

Cannot agree....for me he has scored valuable goals out of the blue.
He works hard and does the job the manager asks.....he has played on his own up front a lot....never easy.

At the start of the season we played Williams and Collins up front in a 4-4-2 and they looked like they would decimate defences - unfortunately the powers that be have decided they cannot play together or 4-4-2 is not the way they want to play!!  Don't blame Williams, he is not an out and out one man striker.

I don't know whether Rooney could play well up front on his own because he hasn't been given a proper chance.
We have to take into account Rooney was only given 25 minutes today and it is often less than this. In my opinion he looks far more likely to score because he has awareness and the ability to find a man or get a shot away, not the 'head down and run' approach Williams adopts. He also doesn't go down (intentionally or not) at every given opportunity like Williams does. Apart from the goal at Coventry in which he had about 5 chances to score before hand, I'm struggling to think of another vital goal from Williams at all.
 

Did you only start watching matches after Xmas then because Williams was our only real goal threat in the first part of the season.

Yes I did but there has been 15 games since the 4-0 over Carlisle on January 5, the last time I believe he has been good enough, that's a large part of the season for a striker to be acting as a passenger. He was decent before hand but hardly setting the world alight, I seem to remember Ritchie was top scorer for quite a bit as well and Collins chipped in with a few so I would disagree in him being the only real goal threat.

At last ....... The voice of reason