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Anyone else watching the rugby at all?

So many errors in the Ireland England match atm, not easy viewing.

First time in years that I haven't started a Six Nations thread.  Seems to be working so far.

Conditions are terrible, to be fair.  And the pitch is in a diabolical condition.  Not really surprised about the errors.

Yes but the majority are by Ireland so happy days. Great kicking by Farrell.

9-6 up England, hope they can hold on...can see us getting a few more penalties the way the Irish are playing today!

12-6

6 points while down to 14 men. Farrell's superb.

YES!!!!!!!!! HAVE THAT YOU BASTARDS!!!!!!

That was dull wasnt it.

Glad I prefer football.  Seem to be a bunch of blokes pushing each other around.

No

Yawn. Didn't enjoy that game but ah well not every game can be free flowing!

England look solid, be interesting how the French play in England next time

That wasn't dull, that was a proper game of rugby. England played the conditions superbly and the defense was rock solid.

Farrell is some player.

This, load of old shite. A bunch of fat blokes groping each other for 80 minutes. Hardly any skill involved, mostly about your size/weight.

Next time you want to comment on a sport, you might want to read up on it a bit first.

Not a free flowing game, or one that would have excited anyone new to the game or who dips in & out.  Samdy had it spot on though.  England played the conditions perfectly.

Fola - if that was a gutsy 1-0 win ground out in gale like conditions where we had parked the proverbial bus after taking an early lead somewhere like Coventry, you'd be raving about it.

Catch a ball, run, fall over. That's not skill, it's a sport purely about size. The people I know who play rugby are all shocking at football.

Keep going, mate.  Your ignorance becomes more apparent with every post.

Likewise, (most) people who are good at football would be pretty shocking at rugby.

Anyway, if you can't appreciate the way in which the sport is played, get out of the thread.

Football -skill
Golf - skill
Cricket - skill
Motor Racing - skill
Tennis - skill
Snooker - skill
Boxing -skill
Rugby - size/weight

Case closed.

Actually most would be very good at catching a ball, running with it and falling over. It's really not very hard. The 'skill' they lack is being over 6 foot and as wide as a house.

Unlike you to make a tool of yourself Fola

Rugby should be split into weight categories, it would make it a more skillful sport. You can agree with that.

Everytime somebody doesn't have the same opinion as you they're automatically an idiot. You say it every time.  :)

i prefer american football, honestly.

The closest you get to skill is a conversion or a drop goal. Ironically it involves kicking a ball.

I admire your attempt at trolling.

If Bosnia/Serbia/Cocafolastan had a competitive rugby team you'd have a totally different opinion of the sport, no doubt.

Is he Bosnian?

He really should have mentioned that before

It actually reminded me of our 1-0 win at Colchester on Tuesday night. Like today, that was never going to be a free flowing game, it was always going to be about digging in, playing as a team and grinding out a result. It's just as satisfying in its way as going out onto a prefect pitch in the middle of September, pinging the ball all over the place and stuffing the other team 4-0. Anyone who finds that boring knows fuck all about sport.

Finally, there are threads on here at various times about F1, golf and other sports which I personally have no interest in. I let other people discuss those subects to their hearts content. Although I realise those sports have their merits, I know nothing about and don't much like them so have nothing worthwhile to contribute.  I myself prefer to (as Samdy alluded to) shut the fuck up. I would never dream of going on to a thread about The Ryder Cup for example and come out with "Golf's a boring load of shit". That would be moronic.

Just saying.

Golf bores me to fuck.

Therefore I know not to open the golf thread. How simple is that?

I don't like golf or cricket yet I appreciate the levels of technical skill needed to compete at the highest level.

Yeah but golf and cricket is nothing but swinging a heavy object at a little ball. No skill involved there.

(See, I can do ignorance too).

Well you should be able appreciate that to play any sport at a high level requires high levels of technical skill, whether or not you yourself are aware of what those skills are and whether or not you have any interest in that sport. As I said, if you don't like a particular sport, don't bother going on there and saying, "Ooooh, it's boring, it's rubbish, there's no skill to it".

If you do that, you make yourself look stupid. Believe me.

that is very ignorant; have you never picked up a golf bat? they're hella light

But that's simply not true, and you know it. The levels of dexterity needed for those sports are unreal, whereas with rugby it extends to catching a ball, you or I could catch a ball.

It's true because I say it is and my appreciation of the sport goes no further than swinging a stick at a ball.

Let me post this again as it may have got missed on the last page...

you should be able appreciate that to play any sport at a high level requires high levels of technical skill, whether or not you yourself are aware of what those skills are and whether or not you have any interest in that sport. As I said, if you don't like a particular sport, don't bother going on there and saying, "Ooooh, it's boring, it's rubbish, there's no skill to it".

If you do that, you make yourself look stupid. Believe me.

Still regarded as the greatest try ever and we'd love to see rugby played like this every week,but with modern
coaching, organisation and fitness it's probably unlikely.

Some people don't like the NFL or Basketball when you see huge players,but you can still appreciate the athleticism
and ball handling skills.

Admire the skill levels Fola,even if you don't like the game of rugby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwCbG4I0QyA

If you are not pissed/on a wind up/both and you genuinely believe that, then you are an idiot.

If someone can find a sport Bosnia are good at then that's the one that has no skill.

Dexterity wise, it does.

Watched it, what was the skillful part? The weaving in and out bit? Football has that, but instead of merely holding a ball you're using your feet to control it at the same time. 10x as hard.

Out of interest, does showboating exist in rugby? Who is the Ronaldo of the Rugby world?

You're an idiot.

Hahahahahahahaha. Now you're just trolling.

Go watch some videos of Shane Williams or Jonah Lomu on YouTube. It'll be one hell of an education for you.

Bosnia has been in existence for 20 years, just to be competing is an achievement in itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsXTa7UCGlk

Catches ball, runs, runs, runs. Dexterity? Where?

There's no point even replying to you any more. You're hell bent on being a dick, so I'll let you carry on.

I've never resorted to calling anyone on here a prick before (I've often considered it) and I considered you to be reasonably intelligent. However, you leave me no alternative.


You're a prick.

egg chasing

Good point, well made  8)

But I'm right, no?

Dexterity is defined as Skill in performing tasks, esp. with the hands.


Let's compare a goalkeeper in football to a rugby player. Who is more skilful with his hands? The goalkeeper who uses reflexes to dive, sometimes at point black range to stop the ball going in his net, or the rugby player who catches a ball and doesn't drop it, whilst running.
 :hmmm:

There is another reason why I don't like rugby, but I've already ruffled a few feathers so no point in stoking the fire further.

What other sports do you think lack skill?

Humour me.

You haven't 'ruffled any feathers' at all. All you have done is made yourself look a total prick.

Congratulations.

American Football, I detest it even more than rugby.

Most people who play rugby are utter utter cunts and very weird to boot. Ever been on a night out and seen a group of rugby players out on their social? I know someone who had to lick somebody's arsehole for a forfeit.

by your own logic, a quarterback needs plenty of skill and dexterity.

Tactically yes.

Ironic.

I'm presuming you've never played the game at any level Fola?

Passing a rugby ball accurately is nowhere near as easy as it looks, particularly whilst running at speed. Neither is recieving the pass. Timing of the pass and timing of the run are as difficult/easy as they are on a football pitch.

The other facets of the game are as skillful or otherwise as counterparts in other sports. Tackling in Rugby is more than just grabbing someone, in the same way as tackling in football is more than sticking your leg out.

I prefer watching football, but I loved playing rugby. Give it a go if you get the chance.  

I'm laughing, but for all the wrong reasons...

OK, this is my final word in what has become a rather sorry, tawdry excuse for a thread...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9t_KDGqOmE

Not to mention the 'very weird' bit.

Simon Zebo's flick with his foot and subsequent catch looked pretty good to me last weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lSTds3W9Kw

Played it when I was at school. Was good as the passing side of the game, but not the physical side, I used to be a midget.

Oh, so this is all because someone licked your ringpiece? Figures.

At the end of the day I'm right. I'm not even trolling, I'm right.

I am starting to feel a bit like poor old Slobodan

Heart problems?

Using your rugby has no skill involved argument, Boxing is just two blokes beating each other senseless. Motor Racing the only skill involved is being able to change to gear at high speeds.

The things I can't stand about football don't seem to be present in Rugby, surrounding the ref, and rolling around the ground like a player has been shot, only to get up and run around 30 seconds later.

If Bosnia had a Rugby team you'd soon change your tune.

Boxing is split into weight categories, it's not about size/weight as a result. Much more skill involved than two blokes beating each other senseless.

With regards to motor racing, not even going to dignify that with a response.

Good points about the respect towards the officials and lack of gamesmanship in rugby though.

I don't understand why motor sport is considered a sport. Just driving round the same piece of road for what like an hour, then there are the people who go and sit in a stand just see some cars go past really quickly, its like standing by the magic roundabout cheering for a thamesdown bus

Not a big fan of rugby but the Six Nations is an ace tournament.

Rugby requires a lot of different skills and abilities to football. Organisation and team work are paramount, if just one player goes walkabout you're fucked. Tackling is an art form, bringing someone twice your size down isn't easy. Field position is as important as possession. Decent rugby is just as enjoyable to watch.

Same with American Football. The technical and organisational side is probably the highest of any team sport. Fitness levels are way beyond most sports, even the fat fuckers on the line would burn most of us in a sprint.

Always been interested in the development of the various forms of football. Not easy finding books or other reference material on it and especially on the evolution of the various rules. Think a lot of people forget or don't realise you were able to handle the ball in the original football rules, amongst other similarities with modern day rugby.

Apologies for going back a few pages but, out of interest, what's your take on the 100m sprint?  Surely that also is 'catching a ball, running with it and falling over', just without the ball catching and falling over bits.  How athletics manages to draw a global audience is anyone's guess.

Sometimes, you can be so badly wrong that your best course of action is to stop digging, walk away from the computer and then hope that, in time, everyone forgets what you posted.  Now is one of those times.

Wrong on both counts. There was a documentary on the BBC before the Olympics about the science of sprinting, didn't realise there was so much to it.

Cola, you are obviously very bored and lonely this afternoon, you know nothing of the sport, have only played it a school when you were a midget, and are hugely ignorant of subjects that dont involve Bosnia, please shut the fuck up.

Clearly you're not in to sprinting either then.  Physique is everything for a modern sprinter.

Please stop it now.

I stand by my comments.

The sprinting one was wrong, so I deleted it.

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At my school there was a guy who was 6 foot 4 and about 20 stone, he was obese, and this was in year 9. He was in the rugby team, when he got the ball he used to run and run and run, it would take at least 3 people to bring him down. As I've said 100 times, if you are tall and weigh a lot you are 50% of the way towards being a good rugby player. This guy eventually slimmed down and now plays at a relatively good standard.

Cola? Can you read?  :D

I give up, Shane Williams was about 5ft 8 and weighs about 12 stone and was one of the best wingers in the world, Dan Carter who is possibly the greatest fly half ever is not a lot bigger, you just dont get it do you?

The vast majority of rugby players aren't though are they.

I was expecting more of a bite than that!

He's deleted his account?

No doubt he's up to some Eastern Bloc tomfoolery.

nah, it was me. i got bored of him being wrong so i made sure i was right.

Ha ha,

You Nordic Nazi

I heart SY

Well this thread has been interesting to read....comments on the actual game itself...England played very well and made sure they took advantage of Ireland's lack of discipline. Owen Farrell had a great game and his kicking gets better and better! 1st win in Ireland for 10 years I heard earlier...grand slam is definitely on the cards for England!

Owen, it's Owen. Andy is his old man.

I think I had 'Last thing Sunday night Syndrome', watching the highlights and they did a few up close shots of Andy in the box after Owen had kicked his penalties... :doh: (*now changed on Original post, cheers Samdy)

Heading to Wales by the looks of it  :doh: ( they deserve it at the moment ), cmon England

Game over

England being embarrassed by Wales.

Mind you they were shit against Italy last week so not really that much of a surprise.

They also have a history of bottling it when the Grand Slam is on the line.

This is Welsh rugby's second golden age.  Look at their record over the last 10 years.  Eighteen of us to every one of them.  Phenomenal.

Gutted.

They have battered England and deserve to win , brilliant try just scored

Fuck me, the England boys have just about given up  - deserve to be getting beaten heavily.

Their first half against Ireland suggested otherwise.

Referee Walsh certainly had it against us today. Wales have certainly done the gritty stuff well, but for me England still looked good defensively even with this scoreline. The penalties (and to some extent the referee) have cost us the game and the championship.

Battered by the sheepshaggers.  Just not good enough!

That twat of a ref has really wound me up though, almost like he was on a job interview for media work.  Hasn't affected the result, but what a cock!

It's only rugby, nothing important.(Fishy Fishy)

I'd be more annoyed it was to Wales. Fewer things more annoying in the world than a gloating welshman

When I saw who the ref was, I couldn't be arsed to watch it, as I knew what the outcome was going to be.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/rugby/52001/rugby-steve-walsh-six-nations-england-wales

The ref was shite and that article  made me laugh to be honest , im 100% positive it wouldnt of changed the result but what the fuck was he doing refereeing

Mightily disappointed, the best team deservedly won - but with some help from the referee who was nearly as bad as the footy one we had against Walsall!!

it wasnt the refs fault england scored 1 try in last 4 games. no excuses they got ironed out today.

no excuses on the result or the fact we aren't as good as the press may say ,also  doesn't change the fact the  ref was a twat either tho

He is one of those people who don't care if anyone likes him probably because he likes himself so much. When players do it it's annoying but I lost count the amount of times today he looked up at the big screens after he blew the whistle. After reading that article I'm really suprised he is still refereeing big games like these.

Watched some rugby today whilst in the Savoy. Nearly a scrap which unfortunately didn't kick off between a couple of bellends.  Try to like the sport but its shit like f1

thought that might happen , will probably get worse as the night goes on .

I dont even try to like it-its a totally shit game,in my opinion

As much as I'm still smarting from that defeat yesterday, the French finishing bottom below Scotland and Italy makes me feel that little bit better. It was only 18 months ago they played in the World Cup final.

I watched a bit of it yesterday. Only reinforced my opinion of it's general shiteness.

I gave it 5 minutes of my time yesterday and the entirety of my viewing involved an issue organising a scrum.

Probably not the best time to tune in.

Not been a vintage 6 Nations due partly to the unbelievably poor weather.

Yesterday's Wales v England game was superb however, for the neutral at least...congratulations to Wales.

All teams have been inconsistent with Wales losing at home to Ireland after being monstered in the first half, England bulltying Scotland then losing momentum, Scotland being as cussed as ever and France, as is always a possibility, really not turning up.

England and France had a good autumn (unlike the Welsh)  with results v NZ and Aus, so the RWC is anyone's but home advantage for England and to a lesser extent Wales should help in 2015. 

Less "learning" bollocks next year and better weather may = a better 6 Nations.