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Title: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Coca Fola on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 13:32:45
That is all.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: DRS on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 13:43:04
Fuck off,That is all


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: walcot red on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 13:52:20
fuck me we've not scored for two games, and some fans are acting like we're gonna get relegated, look at the fucking league table, we're top, with games in hand, and the BEST goal differnce in the league. Kerrouche has done fuck all since he's been dropped he did fuck all when on loan at the scum if he'd scored a hat-trick when he was there then i'd say put him the starting line up, he hasn't.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: cheltred69 on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 13:56:54
No - he's out of the squad for a reason and we haven't exactly struggled since he was dropped.

I've said before, I didn't go to Crawley but Kerrouche didn't impress me as anything special in any of the games I saw him play.  His performance against Soton in the cup was as poor as anything I've seen from a Town player over the past few years.

We need another striker next season but never in a million years is that Kerrouche.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Abrahammer on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 14:06:32
Still been our 2nd best striker this season IMO but he clearly has no future here.

In Paolo i trust


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 14:29:10
Wasn't long ago that Connell was the answer to our prayers and should start every match.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 14:34:10
Wasn't long ago that Connell was the answer to our prayers and should start every match.

That wasn't the case people were making at all


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: aroundthefur on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 14:34:18
As someone else on the TEF has said before, there is a reason why he has a relatively prolific goalscoring record but a high turnover of clubs.

Did nothing of note at Oxford so cannot see why anyone thinks he would be a vast improvement on Connell.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 14:39:03
That wasn't the case people were making at all

Except it was


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 14:46:23
Except it was

Who should play instead then?
Best option we have whether people like it or not


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 14:50:43
I'm not even sure he is the best option.

I'd rather we didn't send Bodin away. But considering we did, give Storey a chance. Time and time again it's been pointed out that Connell's goals and occasional good performance are papering over the cracks. Not just by myself, I'm not the only one not to have noticed.

Also, players like Bodin and Storey would add something different.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 14:55:46
People blether on, and perhaps rightly so at times, about Connell's ability to hold up the ball and bringing others into play.

That's all very well but we already have one of those in Benson.

I'd much rather Benson was accompanied by a player with pace and trickery. I disagree with PDC playing Murray because I would rather he played Bodin in that role instead, but I can still understand why he does.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: DRS on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 15:03:38
I would play rooney behind benson


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: aroundthefur on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 15:05:02
I do feel Bodin has been harshly treated. One ineffective game against Cheltenham and he's been ostracised again.

Connell has had a good season for us but you could tell from August that PDC is not convinced by him.

Murray offers us pace and movement but does not have the fitness to sustain it. Has been a woeful finisher unfortunately.

I think PDC will be after at least one striker with a proven League One goalscoring record this summer. Could be an entertaining saga to follow this summer...


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 15:06:24
I would play rooney behind benson

Or this


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Notts red on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 15:13:02
If we do win the league with a game or two to spare do you think Paolo will play the likes of Storey and other squad players or stick with the regulars? Most managers would give the fringe players game time but not so sure about Paolo.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: DRS on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 15:14:21
Sure he said he wouldnt


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: aroundthefur on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 15:15:57
Would be disappointed if we were handing out first team appearances for free.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 15:40:05
Storey hasn't even secured a pro contract yet(i do think he will get one) and is not ready to start games in a title chasing side imo.
Rooney off benson could work but he has squandered chances previously which seems the reasons people don't want Connell to play.

What this does highlight is that our forward options will need serious bolstering in the summer. I'm not convinced Benson is good enough for league 1 top end either. I also don't think he has been as good as people think Connell has been bad.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 15:49:33
Alan Connells becoming a bit Billy Paynter isnt he?

Some seem to think he's great, others seem to think he's shit and misses loads of chances.

Somewhere inbetween the two i'd say...


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 15:52:54
Alan Connells becoming a bit Billy Paynter isnt he?

Some seem to think he's great, others seem to think he's shit and misses loads of chances.

Somewhere inbetween the two i'd say...

so would i


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 15:55:18
Of the strikers we have left on the books and not pissed off Paolo I'd say a front 2 should be in this order:

- Benson
- Connell (I agree with DV's assessment by the way).
- Bodin/Murray
- Storey

Can't separate the last two, I think Bodin has the greater goal threat.

If we go up its clear we need 2 new strikers.

It an interesting point about changing formation but I really don't think this is the time to try it.

There is no crisis.
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Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 15:59:14
the best two strikers do not always make the best strike partnership.

I'd say Connell is a better striker than Bodin but Bodin and Benson seem to make a better partnership.

Again, in the same way that Paynter might not have been your cup of team he was the perfect partner for both Cox and Austin.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 16:00:02
I do feel Bodin has been harshly treated. One ineffective game against Cheltenham and he's been ostracised again.

Connell has had a good season for us but you could tell from August that PDC is not convinced by him.

Murray offers us pace and movement but does not have the fitness to sustain it. Has been a woeful finisher unfortunately.

I think PDC will be after at least one striker with a proven League One goalscoring record this summer. Could be an entertaining saga to follow this summer...
Bodin is laughably over rated by some of our fans. I would like us to keep him as he has potential but there is a reason he has been loaned out twice this season.

I agree with your other points, of our strikers the only one who I can see making the step up is Paul Benson. I am sure we will sign a couple of decent forwards in the summer.

If we do win the league with a game or two to spare do you think Paolo will play the likes of Storey and other squad players or stick with the regulars? Most managers would give the fringe players game time but not so sure about Paolo.
Hopefully our best side, maybe with one or two youngsters coming on but regardless of promotion being in the bag I would like us to play the strongest side possible.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: DRS on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 16:00:45
I dont think he is shit i just don't think he is that good that the crowd think it is ok to boo subbing him. DeVita has been just as good and gets dropped but no one boos.The difference?Connell is a nice bloke who says the right thing in the papers and fans buy into that.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 16:03:49
TO be honest DRS I don't think anyone thought that Connell was good yesterday :) I took the boos to mean they thought Murray was worse. I think its been brewing a while, that Connell hasn't been given a fair crack when playing well (not that he has the last two games).

A substitution should never be booed, but when it happens in those numbers its obvious its not just one or two thinking it.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 16:09:19
Although i dont think there is any need to change the formation, I'm curious as to how Ritchie would play in behind Benson with Holmes and Rooney out on the wing.

Think he could have some success in the middle


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 16:12:11
I think Fola may have been fishing.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Notts red on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 16:15:04
I dont think he is shit i just don't think he is that good that the crowd think it is ok to boo subbing him. DeVita has been just as good and gets dropped but no one boos.The difference?Connell is a nice bloke who says the right thing in the papers and fans buy into that.
I agree, I find when Connell starts he seems less effective but sometimes when he's not playing I think we miss him. When Connell was taken off yesterday I was a bit concerned about risking Benson with his neck injury but that was the only reason I thought maybe Connell should of stayed on. His chance on the far post should of been buried and the miss gave Rovers hope, we never created another good chance like that for the remainder so proved costly.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: adje on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 16:34:17
All I know is Kerrouche was bloody good in the games I saw him play.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Benzel on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 17:15:22
Look at his goals to games.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: leefer on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 17:20:48
Alan Connells becoming a bit Billy Paynter isnt he?

Some seem to think he's great, others seem to think he's shit and misses loads of chances.

Somewhere inbetween the two i'd say...

He is not shit that is for sure,good player but like all the squad will have to be patient and take his chances,which he didn't do at Wembley(a tough chance)and a sitter yesterday.
Kerrouche is history on account of his off field antics i reckon.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Benzel on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 17:22:07
The only reason Connells chance at Wembley was tough is because he went for glory.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: DRS on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 17:25:10
In response to the goals to game argument i would also say look at his clubs to years


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Dozno9 on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 17:40:30
No one in this squad apart from Benson would score more than 10/15 goals next year up front anyway so as long as we have enough firepower to get us up this year the discussion of choosing between the half strikers that we have currently will be eased.

We are top but to be in April and PDC not yet decided on his top 2 is pretty fucking shoddy. But then we're top of the league so what do I know.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: aroundthefur on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 17:43:12
If someone had said last May that we would be top next April without having a proven strike force....


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 17:50:51
No one in this squad apart from Benson would score more than 10/15 goals next year up front anyway so as long as we have enough firepower to get us up this year the discussion of choosing between the half strikers that we have currently will be eased.

We are top but to be in April and PDC not yet decided on his top 2 is pretty fucking shoddy. But then we're top of the league so what do I know.
I think he knows who his top 2 are and he's got one of them in Benson. He's just not been able to get the other one in yet but it sure as hell has not been for the want of trying. Just goes to show how hard it is to bring in decent strikers. I expect this to be successfully addressed in the summer though.

It's definitely a shame he fell it with Kerrouche though, whatever the reasons were.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 18:11:54
It's easy to say PDC keeps chopping and changing but since Benson came along, that just has not been the case.

There's only really one position that is not settled really, asides from that it is quite a settled team.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Dozno9 on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 18:15:11
It was until quite recently and that's why the results haven't been as good as they have been. I blame Caddis.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Coca Fola on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 19:35:59
Quote from: sonicyouth link=topjavascript:void(0);ic=47607.msg1063173#msg1063173 date=1333296731
I think Fola may have been fishing.
Nope. Kerrouche ability wise is better than Connell and De Vita in my opinion. I know they're hardly comparable but look at City handing Tevez a second chance after something much worse. The reality is if he hadn't have gone on loan to Oxford I think most people would be calling for Paolo to give him another chance.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: DRS on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 19:40:44
Out of interest.How have city done since tevez returned?


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Coca Fola on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 19:41:18
What has that got to do with it?


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Coca Fola on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 19:43:55
The fact is we're struggling for goals at the moment and now have a striker shortage, and we have someone who averages 1 in 2 not even in the squad.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Peacocks-Lucky-Coat on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 19:44:24
What has that got to do with it?

Could be down to team morale. Wouldn't want Kerrouche fucking up the dressing room... Not that I think he would, but it wouldn't help the confidence of our other strikers if he did come straight back and into the starting 11.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 19:52:30
I'd like to see De Vita get a run in his preferred position alongside Benson.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 19:56:46
Out of interest.How have city done since tevez returned?

won 1 and drawn 2

worth noting that City were losing all three games (0-1, 0-1 and 1-3) when Tevez was bought on.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 19:59:18
The problem isn't the strikers, it's the lack of overlapping full backs which can break down sides which only defend and play hoof ball.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: wiggy on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 20:04:36
The problem isn't the strikers, it's the lack of overlapping full backs which can break down sides which only defend and play hoof ball.

So perhaps while Caddis is missing we need a plan B. Why not put the wingers on their natural sides so they can get to the by-line. Benson and De Vita are both pretty strong in the air and can attack the crosses.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Coca Fola on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 20:05:22
I'd like to see De Vita get a run in his preferred position alongside Benson.
We all saw what De Vita was like upfront in the first few games. Too lightweight, he's better on the wing.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 20:14:47
We all saw what De Vita was like upfront in the first few games. Too lightweight, he's better on the wing.

That was with Bodin alongside him. Arguably, Bodin improved with experience by his side so why not Raffa?

All I'm saying is that De Vita has lost his place on the wing, why not consider him available for the frontline if need be.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Benzel on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 20:24:57
De Vita is also used to this league now and has proven that he is very capable in the air.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, April 1, 2012, 22:25:06
We all saw what De Vita was like upfront in the first few games. Too lightweight, he's better on the wing.

He played well upfront against Huddersfield in the FA Cup. He isnt a natural winger and to be honest given the fact we now have 3 players ahead of him in the pecking order we dont actually need him as a winger now.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: leefer on Monday, April 2, 2012, 08:24:58
He played well upfront against Huddersfield in the FA Cup. He isnt a natural winger and to be honest given the fact we now have 3 players ahead of him in the pecking order we dont actually need him as a winger now.

And for me that is a good point because a few of our players have shown up better against better opposition,maybe due to the fact the game is a bit slower and they have a bit more time.

For me De Vita and maybe Risser will look much better in a higher division,Ferry and Caddis will certainly and Alan Mac is without doubt a better player than league two.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: clarkystfc on Monday, April 2, 2012, 09:51:52
really think kerrouche could be the partner benson needs different types of player benson holds the ball up and also flicks on well kerrouche running in behind is different to what connell/bodin offer really dont think murray has anything to offer in any shape of the game but de vita could do the same role if kerrouche is totally out of the picture but if all else fails i would also think Matt Ritchie could play off benson he has a great strike on him and with holmes and rooney on the wings his selfish shooting would be more acceptable playing up front just a few ideas? If we had benson from the start of the season and if we had a decent foil for him really think we would have pissed the league by now but summer signings up front for league 1 will be crucial and marlon pack from cheltenham in midfield would make us very strong next year!


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Boeta on Monday, April 2, 2012, 09:53:08
he is di canio, he'll do what he wants


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: juddie on Monday, April 2, 2012, 11:06:00
So perhaps while Caddis is missing we need a plan B. Why not put the wingers on their natural sides so they can get to the by-line. Benson and De Vita are both pretty strong in the air and can attack the crosses.

this, totally agree wiggy.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 2, 2012, 11:08:08
I think plan B is injured also


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 2, 2012, 11:09:18
I think plan B is injured also

Is he the music twat in the suit?

not sure he is the answer.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: paul backskin on Monday, April 2, 2012, 12:45:16
lets not kid ourselves here gents, top of the league or not, if there is a prolific forward out there, is a club likely to let him sign or loan to another club? erm no. we are also in league two. I have to say i think that mr murray is dire, iv seen him alot and he doesn't inspire any confidence at all. i am very dissapointed with how PDC has treated billy, my opinion is that he is a very talented player with great feet and pace, people only start scoring goals as a striker with a good run in the team and good service, billys only lack luster performance was against chelt when he received very little service at all and when it was it was lumped to him in the air to win against two massive centre halfs. i think he should be a part of our side and am very sad to see him go out on loan again, even more so if we sell/release him in the summer.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: nevillew on Monday, April 2, 2012, 12:58:58
Paragraphs gentlemen, paragraphs.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: paul backskin on Monday, April 2, 2012, 13:26:08
fuck off.
      Cunt.



Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, April 2, 2012, 13:54:28
I don't get people talking about the way Bodin has been "treated", as though he was chucked on a train to Crewe with Paolo flicking the Vs from the platform. He's been sent there to get more games under his belt as Paolo didn't expect to use him enough in the run in. Whether that's right or not is arguable, but it's a team selection issue, not one of Paolo mistreating his players.

If Benson can stay fit, then in Connell and De Vita can do the job that's needed to keep us top. I did raise the question of Kerrouche in one thread on here, as he could probably do a decent job for us, but we still don't know what's going on behind the scenes with him, so I'm not holding my breath.

A win at Barnet and all this striker shortage talk will look like a load of paranoid nonsense :D


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 2, 2012, 14:19:16
A win at Barnet and all this striker shortage talk will look like a load of paranoid nonsense :D

Hear hear.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, April 2, 2012, 22:04:09
Even if we win at Barnet 3 strikers isn't enough.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Monday, April 2, 2012, 22:11:14
Am I the only one who noticed what date this pile of shite was posted on ?

I think mr Cocafola is laughing his little bollocks off


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, April 2, 2012, 22:13:47
My testicles are probably bigger than your head thank you very much. I need a wheelbarrow just to move around.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: König on Monday, April 2, 2012, 22:16:46
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Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Monday, April 2, 2012, 22:18:00
My testicles are probably bigger than your head thank you very much. I need a wheelbarrow just to move around.

I'm afraid at's after 12 noon now, so the joke's on you


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, April 2, 2012, 22:19:42
I think you'll find it's the 2nd of April today.


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Monday, April 2, 2012, 22:21:35
I think you'll find it's the 2nd of April today.

Not when you started spouting bollocks it wasn't


Title: Re: Bring back Kerrouche
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, April 2, 2012, 22:24:36
I was being completely serious. I think Konig has it spot on in his analysis.