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Has anyone else seen this?

http://i43.tinypic.com/xqfjwy.png

Our away average is 30th in the Football League - above Reading! The Pox are only above us because we gave them 3,000 tickets!

Laughable support from Franchise and Colchester!

Do you reckon this weekends game will get near that?

I hope so as it's my first away game this season, but it's a long trip from Swindon!!

I would expect around 500 odd.

700 tops.

It's not very accurate and the average obviously depends on the number of local games a team has played (see Oxford!), as well as the size of the club. Based on that, Carlisle's average is impressive.

Thats interesting to see the stats for the Franchise compared to their home attendances, shows how laughable their true support is.
Would be interested to see how many they would be getting if they were hovering around the relegation zone

Does that table include our Xmas figures???  I saw a suimilar table before xmnas and i'm sure we had the same figure. 

You might be right, I nicked it from Crawley!

Luton's is excellent, especially compared with their rivals Watford.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/attendance/_/league/eng.4/english-league-two?cc=5739

There the home ones.

Our average away support is now bigger than the scum.

We are currently averaging 876, to 841 for them.

If you don't include their trip to the CG their average is just below 700.
To be fair that would still put them in the top 5 for L2.

They sound about right.  Where did you get the above figures from?

There's no doubting the pox are a reasonably well supported team away from home, but as you say the CG game has bumped their total up somewhat.

Not forgetting the novelty factor....a couple of terms in lge 2 and that will be halved :D

From that website I see we've still got the best defensive record in all four divisions.

The most clean sheets and the fewest goals conceded...

There is a thread on TheFootballForum about away support, so the figures come from there.

Link?

It's on here.

http://www.thefootballforum.net/index.php?/topic/202857-the-port-vale-park-league-away-support-thread-201112/


The thread is now 19 pages long, as the crowds are posted as the season goes along.

Being a sad old git I have been keeping them in a spreadsheet.
There are some numbers missing, but the away averages at the moment are

Average Travelling Fans   
876  Swindon T
841  Oxford U
759  Port Vale
739  Plymouth A
657  Bradford C
618  Bristol R
586  Southend U
576  Gillingham
563  Wimbledon
466  Shrewsbury
446  Rotherham U
432  Torquay U
373  Northampton
323  Crawley T
288  Crewe A
283  Hereford U
255  Burton A
253  Aldershot T
248  Cheltenham T
212  Barnet
192  Dag & Red
147  Morecambe
136  Macclesfield
106  Accrington S

Plymouth's figure is far more impressive than ours or Oxford's considering their geographical and league positions.

Considering it takes an hour to get out of Devon its good going.

Nice one. If you are updating every week could you post it on here? Id be interested.

Agreed.

shit from Oxford considering we gave them 3300

Shame about their home attendances though.

Talking of which, its amazing that 5 clubs in league 1 have over 12K average attendances.

And also Macclesfield have the fewest goals scored in the league who are conveniently our next home opponents.

Tenner on 0-0 then methinks

I try to do it every week or so.

I will post it when I update it

After yesterday's games, the numbers now are


850   Swindon T
844   Oxford U
759   Port Vale
749   Plymouth A
657   Bradford C
615   Southend U
610   Bristol R
593   Gillingham
555   AFC Wimbledon
502   Shrewsbury T
446   Rotherham U
429   Torquay U
401   Northampton T
317   Crawley T
310   Crewe A
299   Hereford U
270   Cheltenham T
270   Burton A
252   Aldershot T
201   Barnet
201   Dag & Red
156   Morecambe
148   Macclesfield T
114   Accrington S

How come oxford's changed? they were at home?

Because I found the actual number for one of their games that was missing.

ah.

Latest averages are below.

There are some figures missing or estimated (Macclesfield & Burton are notoriously bad at provide away figures)

862   Oxford U
846   Swindon T
721   Plymouth A
682   Port Vale
660   Bristol R
603   Bradford C
588   AFC Wimbledon
555   Southend U
547   Gillingham
532   Shrewsbury T
436   Rotherham U
394   Torquay U
386   Northampton T
304   Crewe A
304   Crawley T
298   Cheltenham T
293   Hereford U
275   Aldershot T
266   Burton A
212   Barnet
178   Dag & Red
156   Morecambe
132   Macclesfield T
110   Accrington S

Had we have given the scummers the same number of tickets they have given us, their average would be about 90 less.

I wonder how many Accy Stanley will bring on Saturday? 20, 40 maybe.

you've got to take your hat off to the green army, given their position and the fact that they have to travel about 120 miles before they are even close to the starting position of most of the clubs...good effort.

Every game was their last wasnt it

Latest averages are below.

There are some figures missing or estimated


871   Swindon T
832   Oxford U
700   Plymouth A
674   Port Vale
626   Bristol R
583   Shrewsbury T
565   Bradford C
545   AFC Wimbledon
542   Gillingham
525   Southend U
407   Rotherham U
395   Northampton T
387   Torquay U
323   Crewe A
287   Crawley T
287   Cheltenham T
268   Aldershot T
262   Hereford U
250   Burton A
200   Barnet
161   Dag & Red
145   Morecambe
121   Macclesfield T
107   Accrington S


The average number of away fans at Swindon is 378 (233 without the scummers figure).

One other interesting fact is that the average number of home fans we get per game (7431) is more than Peterborough get in the championship.  :)

What's the scummers average taking the one at our place out? Would assume this will reduce it significantly?

I reckon if you take, say, 2000 off the Pox's attendance at ours (to equal what we took to there place) their average away attendance would be reduced by 137ish

It would be approx 715

or more to the point, if Pox had given us as many tickets as we gave them our average must be about 1,000 - add in Wimbledon where we could have sold many more and a couple of other sellouts then this is very impressive for L2.

Not counting the fans in the home ends at places like Wimbledon and Cheltenham.

Cheers for that.

Hope some people are not already making excuses if we dont have the highest away turnout in the league this season? It should be nailed on.

Id love to see us take 2000 to Jills and win the League there.

I am going to Leeds for the weekend v Bradford.

Yeah, thats the other one Ive been eyeing up!

Glory hunters! we're currently booking hotel rooms for morecambe. A night on the piss in lancaster beckons.

Is that Wise ;)

Probably not on paper, but i've stayed over in Carlisle, Hartlepool, Darlington and sheffield last 2-3 years and had a cracking time.

Lets hope it brings them sunshine

Me too. I'm going to blow my winnings if we win the league.

I've said it before, we'll win the league at the Pikies and I reckon we'll take 2k down there if that's the case!

Thinking of a trip of to Morecambe myself. Glad to see the jokes have already started!!

Interesting fact, Morecambe is on my birthday.

That'a all I have to offer.

I shall be cockleing at Morecambe as well - I love a seaside special

Latest Averages (as before there are some estimates/guesses as some teams don't provide official figures)

858   Swindon T
815   Oxford U
711   Plymouth A
687   Bristol R
640   Port Vale
568   Shrewsbury T
528   AFC Wimbledon
514   Bradford C
511   Southend U
498   Gillingham
418   Northampton T
396   Rotherham U
387   Torquay U
323   Cheltenham T
320   Crewe A
271   Aldershot T
264   Crawley T
250   Hereford U
245   Burton A
188   Barnet
179   Dag & Red
150   Morecambe
118   Macclesfield T
103   Accrington S


Also, for what it's worth, the average number of away fans at Town games this season is now 482, with the average number of home fans being 7589.

Any idea what our average number of home fans was last season?

We keep our love lives to ourselfs on this forum thanks very much.

Yep, it was 7,779 & the season before 7,562.

Ironic that in a relegation season the average went up, but I think that was partly because they always count season tickets & we had sold more that season.

Ironic, but hopefully its the fans seeing that we are going places under this board, despite the disaster of last season.

Has this been updated?

Latest figures are (as before some of the numbers are estimates/guesses. However all our figures are actual numbers).

854   Swindon T
854   Oxford U
759   Plymouth A
670   Bristol R
606   Port Vale
598   Shrewsbury T
557   AFC Wimbledon
511   Bradford C
503   Southend U
499   Gillingham
421   Northampton T
404   Torquay U
399   Rotherham U
377   Crewe A
315   Cheltenham T
277   Crawley T
274   Aldershot T
269   Hereford U
235   Burton A
187   Barnet
184   Dag & Red
148   Morecambe
128   Macclesfield T
101   Accrington S

Have to say 759 for Plymouth considering the distances & league position is very good.

Interesting that there has been some debate about away fans boycotting the CG because of the prices. As it stands the average number of visitors to the Fortress that is the County Ground is 516, with only three teams having a higher average than that.

We are now averaging 7,692 Home fans for each game.

So, the final figures (with the normal excuse that some of the figures have been estimated)

905   Swindon T
858   Oxford U
748   Plymouth A
646   Bristol R
639   Shrewsbury T
596   Port Vale
583   AFC Wimbledon
529   Southend U
506   Bradford C
488   Gillingham
453   Torquay U
429   Northampton T
400   Crewe A
384   Rotherham U
320   Cheltenham T
311   Crawley T
281   Aldershot T
274   Hereford U
234   Barnet
224   Burton A
184   Dag & Red
138   Morecambe
132   Macclesfield T
104   Accrington S

The average number of away fans at the CG this season was 502, and the average number of home fans 7,908.

Averaging 905 is a very good effort by us.

What would the average number of away fans at the CG be if you took out Oxford's? Down quite a bit I would have thought

And conversely....if we had been given a decent allocation by the scum then our average away attendace would have been a fair bit higher than it was too.

The average of away fans at ours without the Pox game would have been 402

Not too bad an average of away fans then, just always seemed to me that there was never anyone in there really!

The average up until the last 6 games (without the Pox), was only 233.

In the last 6 games we had 1019 from Cheltenham, 614 from Torquay, 1578 from Rovers, 472 from Northampton, 1238 from Plymouth & 205 from Port Vale.

That would be why then considering out of those I only made it to the Plymouth and Torquay games. Hopefully be better next year in terms of numbers, would help the atmosphere a lot

Best fans in the league!!!

I think our high ticket prices plus thinking they will get beat put plenty off coming here.

Putting away followings in this country into perspective, Udinese took 1 (ONE) fan to Sampdoria last night. He cuts a rather lonesome figure:

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/videos/150111/one-single-solitary-udinese-fan-turns-up-for-away-game-at-sampdoria-photo-video.html

That's bizarre. You would have thought at least there would be a few randoms.

"Left side, give us a song......Oh!" :-[

Bet he lives in Genoa as well

Always intrigued me why in certain prominent European leagues, Spain being the prime example, that travelling to away games in big numbers isn’t part of the footballing culture.

Personally I generally prefer away games to home ones.

Because Spain is much much bigger than England

It's partly cultural.  But geography must play a part as well.  Leaving out the outliers (such as Plymouth to Newcastle, for example), upwards of 90% of club-to-club journeys in England are probably within ½ a day's drive.  Not so in Spain, France or even Germany.

Culture aside that's an appalling effort from Udinese fans if true. 320 miles away - the equivalent of us going to Hartlepool. We still take over 150 for a night game and we are Leeegggggueeee Onnnee (to quote the gaffer)!

With better public transport links....

 In Spain it has to be cultural...Saturday, Real Madrid played away at Valladolid, which is about a 2 hour drive from the capital, there were some Madridistas there, but <1000 and plenty of room in the away area..

Are you saying the Spanish are lazy?

Not really...but the manana approach to life probably means there's better things to do in life than spend 4 hours going to a football match.

We took more fans to pre-season training in Italy.

Not been to as many this season due to prices.

For what it's worth, these are the averages so far this season


 1,676  Sheffield U
 1,197  Coventry C
 1,059  Portsmouth
   893  Preston NE
   752  Swindon T
   707  Bournemouth
   693  Doncaster R
   649  Tranmere R
   610  Notts C
   513  Shrewsbury T
   506  Brentford
   470  Crewe A
   439  Carlisle U
   415  Walsall
   403  Bury
   337  Scunthorpe U
   327  L. Orient
   322  Stevenage B
   303  Oldham Ath
   299  Franchise
   282  Yeovil T
   262  Crawley T
   244  Colchester U
   155  Hartlepool T

I was reading on the shitty forum a few weeks back that their average away following was about 600 as was Watford and Peterborough, thats a good away average considering we have had a lot of long distance games like Carlisle and Hartlepool already in there and have Coventry, Brentford, Yeovil (albeit it midweek) and MKD away which we always have good following at.

Would be interesting to see the away attendance as a percentage of the home crowd. For instance, it looks like Bournemouth take quite a high proportion away, whereas that's a pretty dismal showing from Franchise. Perhaps they can't stand the abuse.

fair play to Portsmouth. considering the shit they're in/going through. Fans are there still backing the club when most would walk away

Cov took 5000 to franchise as well so that bares a big significance on their average.

Quite impressive from us when you consider the size of the team above us.

Got a few games coming up where we could take a few as well.

'muff is surprisingly high.

Can see us challenging PNE considering the followings we should take to Cov, Franchise & Brentford

This is % of home fans travelling, based on the average number of home fans only per game

18.69%   Bury
12.67%   Walsall
12.01%   Bournemouth
12.00%   Notts C
11.88%   Stevenage B
11.83%   Coventry C
11.58%   Scunthorpe U
11.37%   Doncaster R
11.13%   Tranmere R
11.12%   Carlisle U
11.09%   Crewe A
10.18%   Preston NE
10.07%   Shrewsbury T
10.01%   L. Orient
 9.65%   Brentford
 9.52%   Swindon T
 9.47%   Sheffield U
 9.31%   Crawley T
 9.24%   Portsmouth
 8.87%   Oldham Ath
 8.56%   Yeovil T
 8.13%   Colchester U
 4.48%   Hartlepool T
 3.93%   Franchise

Bury are well out in front!

The official away attendance was just over 4,100 so not quite the 5k you state but still impressive for a league game.

Coventry are expecting 32,000 for tonight's final in the Paint Pot against Crewe.

I was reading that, thats a bloody cracking attendance at this level.

Is that their first sell out at the Ricoh?

Highest attendance there so far was 31,407 vs Chelski in 2009.

£5 for an adult with a guaranteed Wembley seat helped..

Pretty good marketing then.

Very much so, its obviously worked if its a sell out, also if they do get to Wembley then thats another 32,000 guaranteed to sell pretty much.

That's the value of competitions like the JPT.  You can ride the wave.  We'll have picked up a few life long fans at Wembley last year, for certain...despite the result.

I got talking to a bloke linked with a minor league baseball team in the US a couple of years ago. He said they worked on the principal of yield per seat. So it was better for them to have an 8k full house at $10 per seat than 4k at $20 because of the extra revenue those 4k fans brought in. More beer and burger sales, merchandise sales, car parking, TV revenue and so on.

Didn’t exactly say they would give the seats away for nowt, but near as. It was incredibly important for the franchise owners to be seen to be successful in the local community by offering value for money, a fun environment, letting kids in free, putting on kids entertainment, you name it. Even the beer and fast food outlets in the stadium were ‘sold’ to local breweries and food outlets because the owners wanted to be associated with supporting local businesses.

It’s a business model lower level football could do well to study, meanwhile well done Cov if they do indeed get a sell-out. If the extra 20k fans each spend a fiver on food, parking etc, that’s as good as selling 10k seats at £15, not £5, let alone the feel-good factor.

Coventry having a massive home crowd didn't do them any good tonight, 3-0 down to Crewe.

Leon Clarke, he'll cry on their pitch  :D

I don't suppose that guarantee has much value right now  :bye:

To be fair, just looked at the stats. Like ours have been many times, Cov 25 shots to Crewe 7.  Thats the sort of shit that happens to us.

I've wondered whether we look at ticket prices in the same way as it makes a lot of sense. Got a feeling we don't though and its more a case of just plucking a figure out of the air that they think they can get away with.

Might be a bit of both jonny - i.e. start from yield per seat as a base price from one end, use the maximum you think the market will stand as a ceiling at the other, then work toward the middle in an attempt to find the optimal range

We did a price promo in the 92/93 season that I remembered, vs Birmingham.  I seem to remember the game being postponed to a freezing cold Tuesday in winter.  Checked it out and we got 14,398 in and I'm sure it was close to a sell out for home seats.  That was more than attended the Play off semi final against Tranmere and between 5k and 6k higher than games either side.
I think seats were £4 for an adult and standing was £3.
The normal prices were about £11 for seats and £8 for standing that season, certainly around that mark.

Its an interesting one. I think that people American people v British people who go to watch sport are poles apart. I personally go to the game to watch my football team and couldn't really give a monkeys about what the food is like etc.

In America, to me, it seems that half of the crowd couldn't really care less about the game and are happier to stuff their fat faces with greasy food and piss poor overpriced beer. When I went to NHL, I was constantly up and down all the time letting the greedy yanks out to their hot dog stalls whilst I wanted to watch the fucking game.

In America not only are there numerous food and drink and souvenir concessions within the stadium, but they also sell food and beer at your seat.

Yes, but there are a lot more things to take into account:

-The majority of tickets are held by season ticket holders.
- The crowd is generally made up of home supporters. Noone travels, because of the vast distances involved
- The local TV station buys rights to show live games
- All local shops have promotions where they 'give away' cut price tickets to games (especially ones that the club thinks won't sell out)
- The games are all stop start and therefore lend themselves for other things to happen e.g buying food and drink
- Other things such as clowns, cheerleaders, mascot dancing/phot opportunities, firing free T shirts into the crowd, running the equivalent of raffles, getting people to do stupid things on the Jumbotron etc etc make it more of a family/party atmosphere
- Coupons for a variety of things are given out at the games
- There are 'give-aways' as specific games e.g. I went to a Colorado Rapids game and got free Rapids shirts as part of the entry price. There were 10k available on a first come first served basis. So, it enticed you in early, and the company that sponsored the shirts also gave a coupon to entice you to buy food while you were there.
- Credit card companies: Sign up on the night and you get some free merchandise.
- The Scouts are often given free tickets for games that wont sell out.

US sports are all about the day out and having fun. The game is often secondary to the overall entertainment experience - Especially with baseball, basketball and hockey, where there are several games per week - NFL is slightly different and probably more akin to our football in that regard.

So why couldn’t it be the best of both worlds? Back of a fag packet:

Match ticket £25 on the day. If the club sell, pre-season:

5k or below season tickets sold , average £18/ticket/match.

8k = £15/ticket average.

10k or more = £10/ticket average.

That way fans are incentivised to get a mate to buy a st and STFC stand to get £2.3m income versus £2.07m, plus ancillary merch/food sales to the extra 5k spectators per match. When you buy your st you know you’re saving, say, £7/match, even if sales don’t reach 5k. That goes up to £15/match at the 10k/£10 level. So encouraging new supporters to buy a season ticket could save you £8 a match, or £184 for the season.

Rough figures of course, prob too generous.

Win win, club and supporter. A great crowd, and better atmosphere, every match.

Current averages for League 1, should anyone give a shit :)

 1,651    Sheffield U
 1,173    Coventry C
    957    Portsmouth
    841    Swindon T
    801    Preston NE
    704    Bournemouth
    652    Doncaster R
    600    Tranmere R
    563    Notts C
    555    Shrewsbury T
    544    Brentford
    447    Crewe A
    426    Carlisle U
    396    Walsall
    369    Bury
    326    Scunthorpe U
    307    L. Orient
    307    Yeovil T
    292    Oldham Ath
    278    Stevenage B
    276    Franchise
    262    Crawley T
    255    Colchester U
    205    Hartlepool T


And for what it's worth our average home attendance is 8,478 which includes an average of 487 visitors.
I know we have had the debate about crowds in the championship, so as an example Peterborough average 1,815 away fans at London Road so far this season.

Current averages for League 1, should anyone give a shit :)

 1,651    Sheffield U
 1,173    Coventry C
    957    Portsmouth
    841    Swindon T
    801    Preston NE
    704    Bournemouth
    652    Doncaster R
    600    Tranmere R
    563    Notts C
    555    Shrewsbury T
    544    Brentford
    447    Crewe A
    426    Carlisle U
    396    Walsall
    369    Bury
    326    Scunthorpe U
    307    L. Orient
    307    Yeovil T
    292    Oldham Ath
    278    Stevenage B
    276    Franchise
    262    Crawley T
    255    Colchester U
    205    Hartlepool T


And for what it's worth our average home attendance is 8,478 which includes an average of 487 visitors.
I know we have had the debate about crowds in the championship, so as an example Peterborough average 1,815 away fans at London Road so far this season.

Notable that Franchise have the 4th lowest away numbers yet have averaged a little more than us at home.
The support they have built up clearly hasn't turned into a passion yet!

Looks as if they haven't got around to giving free tickets away for away games yet.   ;)

Looks as though they give an average of 276 per away game, free transport, free burgers and a blow job from Wankelma thrown in. Ra Ra Franchise.

Hopefully we can catch Pompey up between now and the end of the season.

whilst it suits me, being a northern based fan, I doubt our run of games north of the trent during april will do much for our away average

I can see us taking 2000+ to Sheffield United, and if there's something to play for at Scunthorpe we will sell out there. Doncaster on the other hand... Early kick off, bank holiday, on tv - 400-500 tops.

We will take more than 2000+ to sheff utd depending on league.

fair comments, I hadn't factored in the draw of playing a "big" team. still a lot of expense for some people to travel that distance 2 or 3 times in a month tho.

Finally got round to reading the  Coventry program. On the season run down page where they do attendances and away attendances etc, there is a small disclaimer at the bottom saying " Away attendance figures at away games are for pre matchday sold tickets only, Pay on the day figures not included" Now we know why there are disbelieving posts at released figures, and people saying "It looked more than 400" etc. I wonder If everyone is in on this scam?. Incidentally what was the figure given at Cov, still 3000 dead? As I reckon they have no idea, as at 2.55 with many hundreds still outside the away end, they opened the doors and never checked anyone going in.

Someone on here said that they knew someone at the club (Coventry) and they said the actual away figure was 3,760 (I think - something like that).

So, the latest average away numbers for this season so far are

1623   Sheffield U
1150   Coventry C
 946   Portsmouth
 863   Swindon T
 779   Preston NE
 669   Bournemouth
 638   Doncaster R
 594   Tranmere R
 558   Shrewsbury T
 557   Notts C
 547   Brentford
 435   Crewe A
 414   Carlisle U
 400   Walsall
 369   Bury
 330   Scunthorpe U
 311   Oldham Ath
 304   L. Orient
 298   Yeovil T
 275   Franchise
 259   Stevenage B
 248   Crawley T
 237   Colchester U
 204   Hartlepool T


To put some of the numbers at the bottom into context, the 3000 we took to Coventry would give us a season long average of 130

Well the final figures are:

1,658    Sheffield U
1,198    Coventry C
  966    Portsmouth
  876    Swindon T
  839    Preston NE
  796    Doncaster R
  763    Bournemouth
  680    Brentford
  594    Tranmere R
  536    Shrewsbury T
  531    Notts C
  469    Walsall
  429    Oldham Ath
  420    Carlisle U
  401    Crewe A
  360    L. Orient
  332    Bury
  315    Scunthorpe U
  308    Franchise
  301    Yeovil T
  270    Stevenage B
  243    Crawley T
  242    Colchester U
  204    Hartlepool T

The average number of Away fans that visited the CG was 439, only Colchester (423), Carlisle (314) & Hartlepool (264) had less. The Franchise had the highest average of visiting fans (942)

Nice to see the Franchise boycott is still going strong

Stupid question (probably), but is this down to ticket pricing?  It's an odd one.  We have a centrally located ground, we're near a train station, loads of pubs in the vicinity.  And Swindon is easy enough to get to from just about anywhere.  I find it quite odd that we seem to have a problem drawing away fans in.

Actually I think most of it is about location, MK is easy to get to from the A1 & the M1.

I think MK's away attendance is disproportionately inflated by Coventry taking 5000 fans there, which is 5 times the average of what they took elsewhere and like adding another 10 games worth of away fans to their overall total.

part of the reason those club robbing cunts went there.

Always going to tail off as the years go by.  Will always be a minority who will never ever go but most don't care enough to boycott really

I go but i don't like it it! This is an age old argument but i go to watch Swindon. I know its giving that hairy cunt money but i go to watch Swindon. I would rather have a conversation about football with a Scummer than a Franchise fan though.

Yep. Stupid question.

Thanks Reg.

£25 is a rip off. Poor decision then and still a poor decision now. Tickets for the section of the ground should be £21 tops.

I think the £25 price is certainly the biggest factor, even though it's only a couple of pounds more than the average League 1 side charges, and an insignificant extra cost weighted against all the other expenses of an away day.

The average probably isn't helped by being one of the only teams to get home games on in snowy conditions, and playing the fixtures against Portsmouth, Sheffield United and Brentford (maybe even Tranmere would have sprung a surprise on a sunny Saturday?) on Tuesday nights.

On paper though the CG should be a good away day: easy to get to, close to the train station and pubs, and one of the few places where away fans actually get a good view of the game.

£25 to sit in a shit old stand that is falling apart - no wonder people give it a miss.

How did little wurzely Swindon take more fans around the country than the mighty, big-city, all-conquering Preston? It's a mystery (to at least one person...).

Thor.... C'mon, come 'ere boy... There's a good nutcase...

I would posit as the answer to your question that Preston are shit.

(also people might have been protesting Westley)

Goad the mighty PNEthor at your peril.

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 :D

A bit harsh. The Arkells may not have the facilities of say Franchise or Coventry, but compared to most away ends in L1 it easily holds it own. £25 still steep though.

Stratton Bank aint it?  Or have I been whooshed?

Edit: wrong thread  ::)

For those even remotely interested, there were only three teams this season that brought more fans to the Town, than we took to them.

Pompey, Preston (don't tell you know who) and surprisingly enough Oldham.

I was going to go to Oldham but didn't, was the weather shit or something?  If so, could explain the above.

Can't remember, although as it was 15th December it was probably snowing

It was fucking freezing, didn't snow though but possibly the fact most of our away games the 1st half of the season were up the M6 corridor! (It was close to Xmas as well)

I also think there was a pitch inspection on the morning of the game which wouldn't have helped. And it was fucking freezing.

To only be behind Cov, Blades and Pompey is pretty fucking good going. Well done everyone.

Our average away following for league games this season was 611, which ironically was the same average number of visitors to the CG.

This put us firmly mid table (13th) just behind Notts Co (thanks largely to the 3361 they took to Oldham on the last day) & just in front of Oldham.

Not surprisingly Wolves topped the charts with an average of 2568.

Big fall from a few years ago.  Our away form has been shocking though.  Must have had an effect.

I'm not sure they'll be much of an increase next season.  The majority of teams in League 1 are a fair old distance away.

Must admit I haven't done as many away games this season, like I did over the past 4/5 seasons due to poor form/funds

I think the bulk of yorkshire is in lg1
Some hefty mileage trips alright

It'll be Barnsley away, first game next season , I'll warrant.

Losing Carlisle and Tranmere is a bonus though. If Preston win the play offs that would be a result of sorts too.

Oh (k) well.

Hopefully be Preston or Rovrum that go up but the way the lg is shaping up will probably be Lorient with Fleetwood coming up from lg2  :badmood:

I hope Orient and Posh stay down and Southend come up from a London perspective.

Doubt I'll be going to many away matches next season.

Hope Fleetwood come up! New ground!!!

Next seasons away games look dire. We are losing Wolves and Brentford and replacing them with Yeovil, Barnsley and Doncaster, now that's a bad deal.

With Chesterfield, Rochdale and Scunthorpe coming up, there really is a lack of appealing games. Just hope orient don't go up or we will be losing another decent game.

Yeovil away is very appealing....for me and Honkytonk ;)

My only potential away days next season are from

Southend, Posh, Orient, Bristol City, Yeovil, Col U, Crawley, Franchise and (maybe) Notts County which look about as appealing as a pint of sick.

If York go up I might go as it looks a decent place to visit.

Yeah I've always wanted to go to York aswell, and Southend isn't too bad. Knowing our luck it will be fleetwood who come up instead.

Weekend in Blackpool!   :beach:

I don't even know where Fleetwood is, near Blackpool isn't it?

It is indeed.

Don't worry we'll soon be replacing all the norvern teams with the likes of Reading B and Brentford B.

Or even Brentford Bee.

Hence my post  :)

Had a great weekend in Blackpool when we gained promotion under McMahon - that was a crackerjack of a trip!

Ah I missed that  :-[

Not so sure....when the FA nod through Hull Tigers (which they inevitably will) Brentford will want Brentford Bees....so we'll be playing Brentford Bees B.

Except for having McMuck back, it wold be good to try and match that at Fleetwood next Easter - even being 21 years older.

Remember McMuck getting in a strop with Fat Sam for not laying on the Champers for STFC

They got fucked over on the last day....to the Pox...

Our current average isn't too bad really, considering we have had quite long trips to Gillingham (midweek), Bradford, Barnsley, and Chesterfield (midweek) so far, and the likes of Crawley, Yeovil, and Franchise aren't particularly attractive fixtures for many people.  [Edit:  Just noticed that the table doesn't include the Franchise game - which is shown elsewhere as "Week 16".]

http://the72.co.uk/20206/all-72-average-away-attendances-201415-week-13/2/

More than Reading!

Being ranked 9th in lge1 not bad either considering the amount of derbies the yorkshire clubs are getting

Accrington have an average attendance of 94!

And they've had their local derby at Brentford in that figure.