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Simple question, which would you choose?
I haven't really explored either that much ie what can a laptop do that an ipad can't etc.

Any information gratefully received.

iPad hands down for me. I'll leave the technical differences to those in the know though.

The usual questions, what do you intend to use it for primarily?

Completely different things to be honest - depends what you want to do I guess ?

If you want to browse web, do email and play a few games - and don't mind touchscreen for typing - then I would go for iPad

If you want a REAL computer then a laptop :)

I have both. Can watch downloaded porn on an iPad

I've also pondered this conundrum. I decided it would only be worthwhile if you had a laptop as well.

With the iPad you can't just download anything from anywhere, eg. torrents & zip files, and generally third party applications. and the disk space is pretty low compared to what you can fit on a laptop these days!

I've got both and use them in different circumstances. I think i'd find it frustrating if i only had an ipad. However, ipad+dropbox+wifi is pretty amazing and makes the storage question a little redundant

I had to stop doing that as my niece and nephew kept taking it from me, which led to some awkward questions.

Fortunately the main free porn sites all have iPad compatible video now, so I can view in the web browser.

Definitely a case of horses for courses.

Personally, I reckon about 80% of what I do on my laptop could be done on a tablet.

But there are some things we want to do that a tablet just can't do because you can't get the software. For example, the Mrs has a fancy Dan sewing machine that the software just can't be got for on a tablet.

So we have a laptop.

Besides which, I refuse to pay the premium price of an i-pad or good android tablet over that of a laptop.

Let you now in January. My company are moving from Microsoft Tablets to Mac Ipads. Blackberry's to Iphones. So should be an interesting start to the year for a techophobe like me.

What they doing with all the redundant Microsoft Tablets, never seen one so wouldn't mind a play?

[jonny]
Neither, get a Macbook
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I have both. The iPad is the ultimate travellers toy, ideal for trains, planes etc but I don't find I use it much at home when I don't need the portability.

I've never had a laptop, just a desktop pc.
I just want a more portable way of playing a few games - FM and time management type games rather than "action" games, accessing internet and social networking, watching films and maybe a bit of writing (word processing).

I'm not in any rush to buy either, but it is a purchase I'm seriously considering.

Laptop....Ipad is a good tool but i coudn't be without a laptop now,prefer the bigger screen on a laptop.

Yeah, you can't play FM on an iPad.

Ipad = fingerprints

You getting a bit shortsighted then Lee?

Please could you use the CAPS Dave ;)

Hope Boo has his phone on charge for tomorrow?

If only there was a version of FM for the iPad. Oh wait, there is. I'm sure its vastly cut down but it's only £4.

I know you'll be proud of me jonny, I have just got my hands on a 3g iPhone, have unlocked it myself too

You figured out how to swipe your finger across the bottom of the screen?

Not yet but I'll keep trying

 :nod:

They sell low fat cheese too, but it tastes not even half as good.

Desktop > laptop > tablet.

Be warned that you'll need a laptop with a half decent graphics card to play FM in 3d match mode.

I'd love matches in 3d. Maybe one day I'll move onto a newer FM and see how I like it.

On my IPad I watch sky sports 1,2,3 and Espn. Also sky movies premiere plus others on the Sky Go free ap.

Which you can do do on a laptop

It's a lot easier on an iPad when you're taking a dump though. iPads are great for that, I never take a paper with me anymore.

I knew i should of left it to the people in the know  :(

Jonny wipes his arse with ipads instead of loo paper? Mental.

The thing is, if I see someone in public using an iPad I just think to myself "he must be an utter cunt".

why?

I just do.

Hehe, while we are on the subject of Apple, I like Samsung's swipe at them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h5JSojJN3Y

Can you still watch sky sports on a lap top if you don't subscribe to sky ?

http://www1.skysports.com/football/

Bits and pieces,they have the Sky score printer on when there are matches played.

Thanks leefer.

Due to them being a sherman tank, want to know everything, scared of everything else and control freaks owned company, I'd guess you've more chance of winning the lottery than getting a redundant tablet that to be honest I just posted back to HO today for a third screen replacement in as many months. Fucking driving me mental. Seriously these tablets make the ones that Moses came down the mountain with look positively space age.

That's quality. I like anything taking the piss out of Apple fans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ZnwvyAk8k

Personally, i'd get a laptop.
Apple products, although might be good for all I know, seem ridiculously overpriced.
£600 for a fucking iPad?

Alright phil

Mind you, from what I gleaned yesterday from one of my colleagues who knows a bit, well a lot about technology and gadgets, they (ipads) are going to make my job so much easier next year that I won't know what to do with my free time. Ah yes I do, work more...... :(

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difference is in about a couple of years your laptop will be worth about £50 where as your iPad will still fetch at least 60% of it's value...

I paid £1,300 for an iMac 3 years years ago and I can still get £850 for it now.... show me a PC that retains that kind of value...

Where did you get that price from. I bought mine for £399.

On the subject of what's better I've got an Mac Laptop and an iPad. The Mac is good to store all your pictures, documents etc. but the iPad is brilliant for games, social networking and for travelling. Depends what you want to primarily use it for. Always good to have a laptop though imo. Macbooks are brilliant.

Until there is a time when a tablet can do all that a laptop can, I'd rather have a laptop. Really can't see the point in having both.

Agreed. I see an iPad as somewhere between a laptop and a smartphone. Don't think it does enough on its own to make it worth having as a third similar device.

An ipad IS a giant iphone + iPod touch :)

You'll look a bit daft holding it up to your ear tho

If you want to do work, or play proper games get a laptop. If you want to look a cunt on the 0824 to London Bridge get an ipad, oh and a blue tooth ear piece to go with it for the full effect.

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I love the new transparent Ipads.

i have an ipad with a Logitech keyboard.

Had to download apps to read and use word, excel etc etc so using it for work too.

Better as i can boot up and shut down quicker, as i need to do that a lot in my job.

Flash supporting ipad. There's a first.

Nice  :clap:

But Flash, a little Windows 7 netbook would have done the job with no cables

Without getting into an iMac vs PC debate as they serve completely different end user needs, but this argument doesn’t stack up.

Equivalent spec pc is going to be £400-500 less to begin with and you could upgrade the pc every 3 years for less than £450.

Would imagine the build quality in a Mac would be far better. I've had my son in law's lappie since last night blue screening, due to graphics card driver issues, sorted that issue out, but there is so much flex in the base in a certain point by the dvd writer that if you pick it up there it blue screens(the worst thing is it's a natural place to pick it up), loose connection or dry joint, no doubt. Shit build quality in these budget lappies

Basically you get what you pay for

I haven't got a clue what a similar spec laptop to my Macbook Pro would cost, mainly as I've never seen another laptop brand with the same level of quality. I guess maybe some of the Sony are in the ballpark but they aren't cheap.

Does anyone else use aluminium? It makes a real difference - light but still feels as solid as a lump of metal.

Hence the get what you pay for, I think there are a few around with an aluminium chassis but I couldn't name them off hand, would have to go back through my back issues of PC Pro.  When I knock up a pc for myself I always use a decent Lian Li case and those aren't cheap either

As an after thought if anyone has a not overclocked Q6600 quad core cpu please let me know

Missed the point completely gents.

I did see your point, basically bog standard lappies are disposable, but just thought I'd point out that you get what you pay for, in the case of the Mac, build quality. I do agree that they are over priced, but it's called design. I'm pc through and through, I just couldn't be doing with them insisting on doing upgrades and repairs themselves and charging me a fortune for doing it. Laptops to me are just for tinkering with and a bit of surfing(on my linux netbook now) any other stuff, video processing etc is done on the pc.
I wouldn't be going down Mcphleas route of buying a pc for investment purposes either  ;)

Think you're the one that has missed the point.

1. Buy an iMac for £1300 three years ago. Now worth £850. Total cost of ownership = £450.
2. Buy a PC for £800 three years ago. Now worth (being very generous) £350. Total cost of ownership = £450.

So the real cost is exactly the same. Of course you could upgrade the PC rather than selling it but you're left with an upgraded three year old PC, whereas the Mac owner can trade theirs in for a brand new iMac for the same outlay.

The idea that Macs are more expensive is a bit of a fallacy. Initial outlay wise they are but when you factor everything in longer term the difference is negligible. They're not always more expensive initially either, not sure if it's still the case but a year or two ago it was pretty much impossible to build a PC with an equivalent spec as a Mac Pro for the same money.

Though far more important is whether a Mac or PC is best for your needs. It's actually not perfect for my needs, which is why I run Windows 7 as a virtual machine as well - which actually performs better than all the sub £400 Windows laptops I've used through work over the last couple of years.

I know people talk about how a PC is cheaper, and it is, but you have to do so much more to justify it being cheaper. It's a false economy.

To start with you have to build it yourself, which immediately means it's not a true comparison because most people can't do that with a pc and you can't (Hakintosh excused) do that with a Mac. So, excepting that, it's then only fair to compare high-spec off the shelf, with serious build quality where the prices are very close. You also don't get the after sales care Applecare provides, Knowhow isn't even comparable.


I used to have a Vaio and the quality doesn't even come close. (It also cost more than my MBP.) I also still own a Thinkpad and that's the closest in build quality I've seen to a Macbook, but still isn't really a patch on it.

On that basis I just went to Lenovo and built an i7 Thinkpad, similar to my MBP and it was actually more expensive. Applecare for 3 years is £199 and 3 years with Lenovo, that seems comparable is £127.


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Upgrading a Mac is almost the same as a PC. My last one I did the Ram and HD myself and my brand new, or near as brand new Mac, I also upgraded myself. (It doesn't void the warranty unless the upgrade you performed is deemed responsible for the fault and the parts you've changed are no longer under warranty.)

I have one sat in my PC which hasn't been turned on since July.

Whip it out then

Dirty sod

Didn't stop Ronaldinho apparently.

I didn't really word that very well did I? I should have added 'that they wish to sell' So sonic you have let me know, but do you wish to sell it, cpu only?