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Title: di canio
Post by: stfcpatrick on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 16:21:09
we need di canio as a player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY6Gdx_EZVc&feature=related


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: stfcinbmth on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 16:47:20
Don't think his talent as a player has been questioned. He was deffo pretty useful


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Wiggler on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 16:52:37
that can't be Di Canio, not one of those goals was celebrated with a fascist salute.

not even a hint of goose stepping  :sherlock:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 16:53:18
Yes but he did cut in from the right wing on one of them


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 16:53:37
he was class.no doubt about it


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: bennett on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:11:16
the milan keeper must still be having nightmares about that goal


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:22:03
If Di Canio becomes Town manager I certainly won't be renewing my season ticket. I don't care how good he is, there is no room for a self-confessed facist at my club!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:27:52
Unfortunatly Dorset i would be willing to bet for every supporter we lose if he is appointed we would gain 2 more


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:30:41
Don't worry, after today West Ham will be after a manager, and Di Canio will be putting his name forward for that.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:34:39
Yes but he did cut in from the right wing on one of them

Better than him sitting on the back bench.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: stfcinbmth on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:38:48
Unfortunatly Dorset i would be willing to bet for every supporter we lose if he is appointed we would gain 2 more

You could very well be right


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:40:11
i think it would be about 50-50 in terms of fans lost and gained.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:41:21
You could very well be right

Of course it will. He'll also get the occasional West Ham fan coming like it's a pilgrimage.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 17:57:36
i think it would be about 50-50 in terms of fans lost and gained.
Even as someone who doesn't want Di Canio, I don't. I think there'd be a few lost, quite a few who'd come/come back out of curiosity if nothing else. But it would be a minor effect either way and only short term if it wasn't backed with success. Success on the pitch is what will draw the crowds in, same as always. I don't think the potential short-term gain is worth the damage to the club's reputation


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:00:49
I've said it before and I'll say it again, a lot of younger fans would've heard of Di Canio and wouldn't worry about his political views. He would certainly get the younger audience in.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:01:59
Yeah, short term, a few hundred extra on the gate.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: random_five on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:05:02
If Di Canio becomes Town manager I certainly won't be renewing my season ticket. I don't care how good he is, there is no room for a self-confessed facist at my club!

Some fan you are..


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: RedRag on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:06:16
There's something very exciting about the possibility of Di Canio becomng a manager here and I have a feeling the fascism is part of the Lazio culture.  

Racism including anti-semitism is a no no though and I'm not convinced PDC is in the clear there.  

Even the brilliant Glenda discovered sincere but whacky non-footballing beliefs can cost you your job.

I think he is high risk and IF he were succesful and Hammers were struggling he'd be off mid season like Wise - he is lose:lose I fear.... but a heck of a lot more exciting than Trollope and still infinitely more acceptable than Rix


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:07:25
Some fan you are..
Maybe he thinks there are some things bigger than football?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:07:28
And if doing well, that extra hundred will stay. Like you said Mr D, whoevever it is, it will all be based on how well we are doing on the pitch!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Wiggler on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:10:10
I have said it before and I'll say it again:

I would be astounded if the 'anti Di Canio lobby' is more than a handful of internet based characters. In real life I honestly don't think it is an issue to 99% of our supporters.

I know some of the log ins on here also go to games in real life, but usually with these sorts of things the majority of the outraged typing comes from people who don't actually attend games, so shouldn't be allowed an opinion anyway.

 :crash:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:10:43
And if doing well, that extra hundred will stay. Like you said Mr D, whoevever it is, it will all be based on how well we are doing on the pitch!
If we're doing well, no matter who the manager is the extra few hundred will become a few thousand. But that will be down to success, not the manager's "name". If Rix is appointed and did well, we'd get a thousand or so extra on the gate as well. Wouldn't think it was worth it in either case. Short-term gain vs the club's good name


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: random_five on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:14:10
Maybe he thinks there are some things bigger than football?

His prerogative of course.

I think he's cutting off his nose to spite his face.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:15:53
I have said it before and I'll say it again:

I would be astounded if the 'anti Di Canio lobby' is more than a handful of internet based characters. In real life I honestly don't think it is an issue to 99% of our supporters.

I know some of the log ins on here also go to games in real life, but usually with these sorts of things the majority of the outraged typing comes from people who don't actually attend games, so shouldn't be allowed an opinion anyway.

 :crash:

plenty of fans who go to every game shouldn't be allowed an opinion.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:18:59
I have said it before and I'll say it again:

I would be astounded if the 'anti Di Canio lobby' is more than a handful of internet based characters. In real life I honestly don't think it is an issue to 99% of our supporters.

I know some of the log ins on here also go to games in real life, but usually with these sorts of things the majority of the outraged typing comes from people who don't actually attend games, so shouldn't be allowed an opinion anyway.

 :crash:

Ironically it's probably the loudest Di Canio defender who's gone longest without going to a game, what with living in Thailand.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:21:13
Ironically it's probably the loudest Di Canio defender who's gone longest without going to a game, what with living in Thailand.
Doubly ironically, you'd think that'd make more him more of a Rixian


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:31:36
If Di Canio becomes Town manager I certainly won't be renewing my season ticket. I don't care how good he is, there is no room for a self-confessed facist at my club!

Really don't get people who say this.

How can you just ditch the club you love and have supported all your life just because you don't like the manager ???

I personally think Di Canio would be great for us. I don't like his fascist views but I love his passion for the game. He's a big personality who would get the crowd roaring and the players fighting like their lifes depend on it.

If we appoint him, i'm bloody excited about next season already.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:34:37
Scrotum sweat pissers


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:43:24
Really don't get people who say this.

How can you just ditch the club you love and have supported all your life just because you don't like the manager ???
Depends on how strongly you feel about what ever it is about the manager that's upset you and what his appointment in the face of that says about the club. Everyone has their own lines in the sand I'd guess, just some people draw them in different places


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:44:46
Yeah I understand what your saying, I just think some people get abit carried away thats all.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:48:33
Yeah I understand what your saying, I just think some people get abit carried away thats all.
Well, I'd imagine there'll be some would refuse to come if Rix was appointed too. I think it'd be quite understandable in both cases


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:50:36
Roll on Wednesday (or earlier hopefully) when neither Di Canio or Rix are appointed and we can then all move on with our lives.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:50:55
Roll on Wednesday (or earlier hopefully) when neither Di Canio or Rix are appointed and we can then all move on with our lives.
Amen to that


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Wiggler on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 18:53:25
plenty of fans who go to every game shouldn't be allowed an opinion.

 :D bang on especially that little scrote that stands near me in the town end "Sing up you fucking cunts" you all know the one

But at the end of the day they pay their money, they are the club  :nod:



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 19:35:36
I don't think the appointment of Di Canio or even Rix would have as bad an effect on our attendances than if Wilson or Hart were still in charge. Rightly or wrongly football fans are willing to forget the past if there is success on the pitch.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 19:37:25
Bang on there jonny


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 19:40:59
Which is ironically what rix is likely to say to the junior robins paul.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 19:41:31
:D You're a bad man, DRS


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Luci on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 19:41:45
Isn't Di Canio favourite for the hammers job now? (sorry just seen it mentioned elsewhere)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 19:46:00
The choice of manager wouldn't stop be supporting my club.

If it was Rix though, I would hope a lot of us would make our feelings known before and after games.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 19:46:37
I don't think the appointment of Di Canio or even Rix would have as bad an effect on our attendances than if Wilson or Hart were still in charge. Rightly or wrongly football fans are willing to forget the past if there is success on the pitch.

Pfft. Yeah good one.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 19:52:51
I will be totally honest here and say i am totally ignorant to what he has done or has not done. I am just your average football fan who does not give two shits about politics whether he raises his right arm left arm and prays to old war wankers or prays to satan.

I give a shit about this club and bar 1 damp shitty day at wembley have endured years of absolute dogshite at this football club.If Di Canio comes in and lifts this club(like wise,hoddle,ardiles) causes a massive excitement and gets other people talking about my club again then i am happy.

If that is at a risk of losing people due to their own opinions then so be it and fair play to them i admire them sticking the what they believe in and if i believed in it or understood it i would like to say i would do the same like i wouldn't go if rix was in charge.

One thing i will say is like it or not but all my non swindon supporting mates are talking about at the moment is if Di Canio is taking over or not and away from this forum the facist argument is not being bought up.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 20:01:43
Fucking top post mate.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: stfcpatrick on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 20:08:41
i reckon di canio would be a great manager because he has acctually played football


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: nochee on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 20:11:12
i reckon di canio would be a great manager because he has acctually played football

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Brilliant


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 20:11:42
i reckon di canio would be a great manager because he has acctually played football

What, like Mourinho and Wenger? Being a top class player doesn't mean you'll be a top class manager.

Anyone remember Bobby Moores glittering managerial career, or Tony Adams, or John Barnes....?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 20:13:45
Well done Steve. You have clearly been Whoooshed


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 20:14:35
Well done Steve. You have clearly been Whoooshed

I don't think I have been mate, I think he's serious.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, May 15, 2011, 20:22:03
 Perhaps we could get Avram Grant in as D o F for Di Canio....I'm sure they could work together


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 06:42:19
Maybe he thinks there are some things bigger than football?

Absolutely. If it's a choice between football or upholding the principal that anti-semitism, xenophobia, state control and mass murder is wrong, I think it's a bit of a no-brainer


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 06:45:00
I have said it before and I'll say it again:

I would be astounded if the 'anti Di Canio lobby' is more than a handful of internet based characters. In real life I honestly don't think it is an issue to 99% of our supporters.

I know some of the log ins on here also go to games in real life, but usually with these sorts of things the majority of the outraged typing comes from people who don't actually attend games, so shouldn't be allowed an opinion anyway.

 :crash:

Wiggler, I attended my first game in the early seventies and my family and I have had season tickets for more years than I care to remember. I rarely miss a home game and attend as many away games as possible (despite living over 70 miles from Swindon).

Am I entitled to an opinion?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 06:51:48
Yeah I understand what your saying, I just think some people get abit carried away thats all.

My father, grandfather and uncles all fought against the rise of facism. I can still remember a facist dictator being in control of Spain. NEVER EVER make the mistake of thinking that football is more important than stopping facists, no matter who they might be or how good they are at playing a game.

It's a matter or princples. Either you have them or you don't.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 06:56:16
Some fan you are..

Absolutely. I care about the image of my club as much as I care about performances on the pitch. I do not want to see my club stained by people like Di Canio.

Wind the clock back 70 years or so. There was a time when people's patriotism was questioned if they didn't join a certain political party in Germany. That party went on to commit crimes beyond most peoples' imagining. Britain and it's allies fought against the rise of facism and many people paid the ultimate price to ensure its fall. Are you saying that can all be forgotten if it means Town win a few games of football?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Monday, May 16, 2011, 07:01:32
Absolutely. I care about the image of my club as much as I care about performances on the pitch. I do not want to see my club stained by people like Di Canio.

Wind the clock back 70 years or so. There was a time when people's patriotism was questioned if they didn't join a certain political party in Germany. That party went on to commit crimes beyond most peoples' imagining. Britain and it's allies fought against the rise of facism and many people paid the ultimate price to ensure its fall. Are you saying that can all be forgotten if it means Town win a few games of football?

Everyone has principles, they just don't all share your monochrome outlook.

Has Di Canio every publically supported racism, or anti semetism? Has he ever said he liked the nazi's, or Hitler? Has he ever been involved in any trouble with a team mate, or opposition player, due to his political beliefs? Has he ever been prosecuted for race crimes, or hate crimes, or any other crime?

Most people in the UK have family members who fought in WW2, what fucking relevence has that?
The bloke's got some views some of us may find distasteful, who cares?
If he was running for political office, I doubt many would vote for him. But he's not. He's applied for a job as a football manager.

This has been done to fucking death.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Monday, May 16, 2011, 07:02:14
Absolutely. I care about the image of my club as much as I care about performances on the pitch. I do not want to see my club stained by people like Di Canio.

Wind the clock back 70 years or so. There was a time when people's patriotism was questioned if they didn't join a certain political party in Germany. That party went on to commit crimes beyond most peoples' imagining. Britain and it's allies fought against the rise of facism and many people paid the ultimate price to ensure its fall. Are you saying that can all be forgotten if it means Town win a few games of football?


When is Di Canio invading Poland?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 07:16:45
Has Di Canio every publically supported racism, or anti semetism? Has he ever said he liked the nazi's, or Hitler?

Yes. Check your facts. The man has spoken very publicly about such things and is a self-professed admirer of Benito Mussolini.

Racism and anti-semitism are at the very heart of facism.  Next question.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 07:19:18
Most people in the UK have family members who fought in WW2, what fucking relevence has that?

It has EVERY relevance. If we do not learn the lessons of history we are well and truly f*cked! Extremism in all its forms must always be opposed. If you do not oppose it you become compicit with it.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 07:19:59
When is Di Canio invading Poland?
soapy tit wank


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:32:33
From the Italian Wikipedia web site on Paolo Di Canio......
I think something has been lost in translation!
Quote
He also played in England for a spot of Imperial Bathtime.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:34:57
Yes. Check your facts. The man has spoken very publicly about such things and is a self-professed admirer of Benito Mussolini.

Racism and anti-semitism are at the very heart of facism.  Next question.

For fucks, we've done this already.

He DID NOT say he admires Mussolini. I repeat, he DID NOT say it.

Again, this discussion has been had already. Go back through and read this thread. http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,43804.0.html


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: wiggy on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:36:17
Can we please all stop responding to threads about PDC? It is very boring now, es[ecially as the chances of him becoming our manager seem remote.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:46:57
For fucks, we've done this already.

He DID NOT say he admires Mussolini. I repeat, he DID NOT say it.

Daily Telegraph (of all things!), May 16th 2011

In his generally fascinating autobiography (Collins Willow £16.99), Di Canio has this to say about his political leanings: "Perhaps precisely because I am right-wing, I am fascinated by Benito Mussolini. Remember those mobile phone advertisements where they asked people who they would most like to have a one-to-one with? Ian Wright picked Dr Martin Luther King, my choice would have been Mussolini. I own dozens of Mussolini biographies. I think he was a deeply misunderstood individual."

... Di Canio is discerning enough to describe many of Il Duce's actions as "vile or calculated" and accuses him of "turning against his sense of right and wrong, compromising his ethics to save the country".

Unfortunately, this soft-focus interpretation of Italian history neglects to give due weight to the fact that Mussolini signed a `Pact of Steel' with Hitler in May 1939 and thus helped lead Europe into a war that cost more than 50 million lives. Forming an alliance with a barbarian and psychopath would not be high on most people's list of the best ways in which to "save the country". Di Canio swears that he is "not a racist or a xenophobe" and, in fairness, his political musings do not suggest blind allegiance to the 20th century's most destructive ideology.




MY POINT BEING...you can NOT be a facist without being a racist or a xenophobe.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:47:21
I have said it before and I'll say it again:

I would be astounded if the 'anti Di Canio lobby' is more than a handful of internet based characters. In real life I honestly don't think it is an issue to 99% of our supporters.

I know some of the log ins on here also go to games in real life, but usually with these sorts of things the majority of the outraged typing comes from people who don't actually attend games, so shouldn't be allowed an opinion anyway.

 :crash:

Its a little different scenario but take Marlon King. Deservedly went to prison for a horrific crime, served his time, villified by a large number of people when he came out but this season was voted Coventry fans player of the season.

I think you are a bit deluded if you think that this is an issue to 99% of our supporters.

I want the best man for the job appointed, whether it is Di Canio, Burley, Bodin.

Of course all are welcome to their oponion but think you are being a bit dramatic!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Nemo on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:51:07
I'm not sure if you've quoted the wrong post there BO but you seem to have firmly grasped the wrong end of his stick.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:51:56
Its a little different scenario but take Marlon King. Deservedly went to prison for a horrific crime, served his time, villified by a large number of people when he came out but this season was voted Coventry fans player of the season.

I think you are a bit deluded if you think that this is an issue to 99% of our supporters.

I want the best man for the job appointed, whether it is Di Canio, Burley, Bodin.

Of course all are welcome to their oponion but think you are being a bit dramatic!

I think you'll find he is saying it won't be an issue to 99%... Mind you Dorset Red is campaigning hard...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: mrverve on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:52:32
In his generally fascinating autobiography (Collins Willow £16.99), Di Canio has this to say about his political leanings: "Perhaps precisely because I am right-wing, I am fascinated by Benito Mussolini. Remember those mobile phone advertisements where they asked people who they would most like to have a one-to-one with? Ian Wright picked Dr Martin Luther King, my choice would have been Mussolini. I own dozens of Mussolini biographies. I think he was a deeply misunderstood individual."

... Di Canio is discerning enough to describe many of Il Duce's actions as "vile or calculated" and accuses him of "turning against his sense of right and wrong, compromising his ethics to save the country".

Unfortunately, this soft-focus interpretation of Italian history neglects to give due weight to the fact that Mussolini signed a `Pact of Steel' with Hitler in May 1939 and thus helped lead Europe into a war that cost more than 50 million lives. Forming an alliance with a barbarian and psychopath would not be high on most people's list of the best ways in which to "save the country". Di Canio swears that he is "not a racist or a xenophobe" and, in fairness, his political musings do not suggest blind allegiance to the 20th century's most destructive ideology.

MY POINT BEING...you can NOT be a facist without being a racist or a xenophobe.



No, you can.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:53:51
I think you'll find he is saying it won't be an issue to 99%... Mind you Dorset Red is campaigning hard...
soapy tit wank. I am well used to campaigning for lost causes!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:55:32
No, you can.
:doh:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, May 16, 2011, 08:57:38
soapy tit wank. I am well used to campaigning for lost causes!

soapy tit wank!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 09:00:03
soapy tit wank!
Not sure where those first three words came from but please apply wherever you feel they are appropriate.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 16, 2011, 09:05:49
Dorset

What part of READ THIS FUCKING THREAD do you not understand?


http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,43804.0.html


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Benzel on Monday, May 16, 2011, 09:09:13
I'm gonna welcome Di Canio with open arms.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bathtime on Monday, May 16, 2011, 09:15:50
Dorset

What part of READ THIS FUCKING THREAD do you not understand?


http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,43804.0.html


Glad to see your PR campaign is still going strong....courage behind convictions is to be admired


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 16, 2011, 09:17:01
Jesus wept.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bathtime on Monday, May 16, 2011, 09:25:00
 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Jesus wept.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 16, 2011, 09:54:46
I think you'll find he is saying it won't be an issue to 99%... Mind you Dorset Red is campaigning hard...

Oops. Yes I misread it. Apologies Wiggler!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 11:22:36
Dorset

What part of READ THIS FUCKING THREAD do you not understand?
http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,43804.0.html


Read it? I contributed to it!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, May 16, 2011, 11:24:22
I beg to differ.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Melksham Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 11:55:24
I was in the 99% camp but seeing how much it upsets the lefties i'm all for it now.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 16, 2011, 11:57:20
I'm gonna welcome Di Canio with open arms.

I'm gonna welcome him with an outstretched arm ;)



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, May 16, 2011, 13:36:23
oh god not in this thread aswell. dorset if you feel so strong about this start a thread and keep it there  :D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 15:26:47
I'm sorry, I mistakenly thought that if the thread mentioned Di Canio in its title it might be legitimate to talk about him. Silly me!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Monday, May 16, 2011, 15:30:58
dorset.i think we know your stance on it by now.likewise everyone else who has made repeated posts on the issue of di-canio.
he aint getting the job anyway.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 16, 2011, 15:33:38
dorset.i think we know your stance on it by now.likewise everyone else who has made repeated posts on the issue of di-canio.
he aint getting the job anyway.

Why isn't he ?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Monday, May 16, 2011, 15:35:28
cause he's a nazi fascist cunt. ;)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, May 16, 2011, 15:36:33
cause he's a nazi fascist cunt. ;)
:clap:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Lumps on Monday, May 16, 2011, 19:26:43
For fucks, we've done this already.

He DID NOT say he admires Mussolini. I repeat, he DID NOT say it.

Again, this discussion has been had already. Go back through and read this thread. http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,43804.0.html

You've used his one time criticism of Benito several times in several threads, and it doesn't really stand up, because it doesn't really fit with the rest of his behaviour does it.

Do you have some half arsed explanation for the Dux tatoo on his bicep? Because to me, that kind of reads like a man with Fuhrer tattooed across his arm insisting that he realises Hitler did some bad things.

There are a load of contradictions in PDC's public statements on his political views because, like a lot of people in the public eye, he fucking lies when he's put under pressure in an interview. the differences in the answers he gives to journalists in Italy, where public opinion on the matter is more split, with a chunk of the population having fascists sympathies still, in comparison to those he gives to British journalists for example is fucking marked.

Way back in the other thread someone tried to excuse his fascist saluting during matches as "him getting carried away", and the one thing that I know is that when people get carried away and forget themselves, they tend to drop their front and show their real selves. And his real self is the man who runs over to the corner of the ground with the nazi banners (yes I know italian fascists aren't nazi's, but that doesn't seem to stop them carry fuck off great swastika banners as you can see from the link I posted in the other thread), and chanting songs about sending jews to the ovens (see the same link) and give them a fascist salute.
Make all the excuses you like, that's who he is. And if you think the burberry clad chav kids don;t have access to the internet and won't have noticed his history, you're all bloddy deluded. Don't blame us if 3 months into the season there's a little crowd of "Swindon Ultras"


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 16, 2011, 19:28:56
Does somebody want to tell Lumps the Ultras already exist, or shall I?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2011, 19:30:10
Does somebody want to tell Lumps the Ultras already exist, or shall I?

Shhhh. It'll tip him over the edge.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: skin_im_buzzer on Monday, May 16, 2011, 19:33:18
I'm sorry, I mistakenly thought that if the thread mentioned Di Canio in its title it might be legitimate to talk about him. Silly me!


FFS, Dorset - what do you think this is? A forum or something?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 16, 2011, 19:40:49

There are a load of contradictions in PDC's public statements on his political views because, like a lot of people in the public eye, he fucking lies when he's put under pressure in an interview. the differences in the answers he gives to journalists in Italy, where public opinion on the matter is more split, with a chunk of the population having fascists sympathies still, in comparison to those he gives to British journalists for example is fucking marked.


Actually lumps, I was going by quotes direct from his autobiography.

The full quotes as opposed to the selective snippets the British press (among others) used to add their own spin to the story to sell papers, without offering any perspective (quelle surprise). Just going by the information that is available, rather than just the information that is presented to me.

Oh, and Lumps.

The ultras already exist.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, May 16, 2011, 19:46:23
You're both as fucking boring as each other on this topic


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, May 16, 2011, 19:47:50
You're both as fucking boring as each other on this topic
Dare you not to read it


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 16, 2011, 19:48:21
You're both as fucking boring as each other on this topic

Just two more sleeps and it'll over :)

Although, if Di Canio is appointed then it'll never be over.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 07:41:12
david sullivan saying di canio is too risky an appointment for west ham.
take note jeremy wray.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 07:49:14
He also said he wants a British manager.
I imagine Chris Hughton fits the bill.
The manner in which he got Newcastle back up at first attempt while all the backroom shenanigans was going on, not being able to sign any players, was impressive.
Still can't believe they sacked him and replaced him with Pardew.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 08:24:48
Me either but against the odds in all fairness Pardew has done well.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 09:37:23
david sullivan saying di canio is too risky an appointment for west ham.
take note jeremy wray.

Really I dont think Jeremy Wray has to take note of David Sullivan.  I suspect were slightly ahead on this having interviewed him and been able to judge him from that.  As if David Sullivan has a view which can be given any credence anyway. 


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: RJack on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 12:52:44
Doesn't actually say that it says due to his lack of experience

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11095_6936702,00.html


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 12:58:14
Doesn't actually say that it says due to his lack of experience

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11095_6936702,00.html

Yes it does.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: RJack on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 13:01:34
Yes it says it's a risky appointment due to his lack of managerial experience not that he's a risky appointment  ;)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 14:38:03
Isn't that the following Wednesday?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 15:09:20

FFS, Dorset - what do you think this is? A forum or something?
:D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 15:10:43
david sullivan saying di canio is too risky an appointment for west ham.
take note jeremy wray.
Maybe they should have kept Grant and appointed Di Canio as his number two. That'd set up some interesting conversations!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Deano8123 on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 16:00:24
Does anybody know if we will get a annoucement today on the new manager or is will it be tomorrow?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: axs on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 16:07:47
Yes.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 16:17:45
Does anybody know if we will get a annoucement today on the new manager or is will it be tomorrow?
Last week, the Beeb or maybe the Adver or possibly both said the board were meeting today, with an announcement to be made tomorrow. So everyone's hoping we'll get a leak today, but probably becoming more resigned to not knowing till the official press conference tomorrow. So it'll be Friday


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 16:17:47
No


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 16:19:00
not knowing till the official press conference tomorrow.

Has such a press conference even been called?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 16:20:20
Last week, the Beeb or maybe the Adver or possibly both said the board were meeting today, with an announcement to be made tomorrow. So everyone's hoping we'll get a leak today, but probably becoming more resigned to not knowing till the official press conference tomorrow. So it'll be Friday

Oooh, at 5pm?  Back to the good old days.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 16:51:02
Has such a press conference even been called?
Putative official press conference then


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 16:55:56
Will they be calling a press conference to announce the press conference? Best to keep the fans up to date after all.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 17:05:48
Hopefully the press conference announcement will get leaked before the actual press conference press conference


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: stfcpatrick on Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 18:47:24
something has got to be leaked roll on tomorrow :D :D :D :D :D :D :nod:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: RJack on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 11:31:42
Could it be Di Canio?

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/9033786.Di_Canio_confident_of_imminent_coaching_job/


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 11:32:30
Oh god. Preparing personal internet meltdown.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 11:37:17
Erm, Rovers are looking for a manager too aren't they...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 11:37:50
phew. :D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: RJack on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 11:39:28
I think Buckle's being lined up for the Rovers job


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bathtime on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 11:45:07
Feeling in Bristol that its between Buckle and DW...I think Di Canio will join us...great news for season tickets but really would have preferred an unexperienced German


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 12:06:08
Nice that he points out how much his tattoos mean to him in the sky article.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 12:09:10
Nice that he points out how much his tattoos mean to him in the sky article.
Just the West Ham ones though, as evidence of his supreme loyalty to them. No mention of the fascist tats.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: RJack on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 12:09:57
I see Flidzard is spouting his usual shite on the adver board

the wizard, witney says...
1:00pm Wed 18 May 11
I'm not going to abuse anyone here, or anywhere else, but at the same time I seriously think people should read this,
-
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http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/1506262/
Im-a-fascist-not-a-r
acist-says-Paolo-di-
Canio.html
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I don't think we need any of this at County Ground.

I really wanted to read an article published in 2005  :zzz:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 12:11:57
It is kind of relevant, actually, albeit slightly "It's taken you till now to find that?". Do you always limit yourself to only reading about things that have happened in the preceding 5 years?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: RJack on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 12:16:06
I was never good at history when i followed the link i had no idea it was an article that was written 5 years ago. Di Canio's political stance doesn't mean anything to me tbh.  If he does a good job here then great.  My only reservation with him is if it costs the club most of their sponsors.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 12:19:25
I was never good at history when i followed the link i had no idea it was an article that was written 5 years ago.
There's not being good at history and there's putting goldfish to shame :)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: RJack on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 12:29:26
When it comes to History i fit the Goldfish catergory unfortunately.  In my History examine i had to write a piece on the Battle of El Alamein....dunno how Charlemagne ended up in that paper  ;D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 12:56:12
When it comes to History i fit the Goldfish catergory unfortunately.  In my History examine i had to write a piece on the Battle of El Alamein....dunno how Charlemagne ended up in that paper  ;D
:D Superb, I'd love to read that one!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 18:16:04
When it comes to History i fit the Goldfish catergory unfortunately.  In my History examine i had to write a piece on the Battle of El Alamein....dunno how Charlemagne ended up in that paper  ;D
Presumably there were De Loreans and white haired mad professors involved - which would make it even better - history doesn't have to be boring. You'd have got an 'A' if I'd been marking it 8)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: RJack on Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 18:24:28
More Bill & Tedesque  :toocool:
 Serioulsly  i think i was also studying for a French examine at the same time as my history examine & chose to do mine on Charlemagne over Louis the XIV.

My paper on El Alamein was meant to have references to Charles de Gaulle but for some reason ended up with Charlemagne's name being mentioned instead of de Gaulle  ;D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 16:56:11
Not sure if its mentioned anywhere else but Di Canio apparently has a  £1.5M war chest according to Talk Sport


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:02:05
That's a lorra lorra money for league 2


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Panda Paws on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:03:32
Not sure if its mentioned anywhere else but Di Canio apparently has a  £1.5M war chest according to Talk Sport

Talk Sport you say? Let me just double check that with the equally reliable sources football-rumours and wikipedia.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:03:40
Not sure if its mentioned anywhere else but Di Canio apparently has a  £1.5M war chest according to Talk Sport

That's a load of bollocks unless we have kept the money from the Austin sale back and not used it for anything else.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:03:41
Not sure if its mentioned anywhere else but Di Canio apparently has a  £1.5M war chest according to Talk Sport

Yeah I saw about this on a O*ford forum I was browsing this morning. They were saying how we're setting ourselves up for a massive fall appointing Di Canio and where are we getting all the money from.

Jealous bastards :D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:05:12
It also begs the question as to where the money was last season and why we didnt significantly improve the quality of the squad in January.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:07:24
Maybe Fitton didn't want to spend the money on players? But Wray is happy to?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:09:41
It would seem that way wouldnt it.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:14:11
It also begs the question as to where the money was last season and why we didnt significantly improve the quality of the squad in January.

800k was spent on players?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:16:29
was it? on who?

...and how does that compare with money bought in from player sales? and how well did we do in the end?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:23:11
was it? on who?

...and how does that compare with money bought in from player sales? and how well did we do in the end?

Ritchie, Caddis, Ferry, Benyon, Flint.

It will be less than player sales though to be fair when you take into account Greer, Morrison and Austin. But we did spend. I take your point on the January transfer window though. We didn't do enough business then and it probably cost us.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:27:39
£150k on Flint
£125k on Ritchie
£350k on Ferry & Caddis (rising to £500k on appearances)
£100k on Benyon


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:28:09
We didn't do enough business then and it probably cost us.

For which I still blame Wilson. The money was there, he just didn't know how to spend it.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:30:40
For which I still blame Wilson. The money was there, he just didn't know how to spend it.

Or nobody wanted to play for him.

But yes it was Wilsons fault.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:33:13
£150k on Flint
£125k on Ritchie
£350k on Ferry & Caddis (rising to £500k on appearances)
£100k on Benyon

...where did those numbers come from? 150k for Flint? 100k for Benyon?

Christ, no wonder we didnt let Wilson spend.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:33:51
Flint cost 150k ?? Fuck me.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:34:12
Or what jj said. But the money was certainly made available.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:35:07
Think Benyon was more like 70k and the chance are that the Flint fee won't have been all up front either.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:37:12
What about Misun? Was he a freebie?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:38:52
Or what jj said. But the money was certainly made available.



Still not 1.5m though.

If the 1.5m is there now - then at a guess it would have been there in January? As far as I'm aware we havent had a windfall since January due to some sort of add on. If JJs figures are accurate then we spent 375k in January.

Obviously not enough to get us out of the trouble we were in.

Of course, the £1.5m figure still has no actual foundation behind it, does it?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:39:29
What about Misun? Was he a freebie?

He's not even a real player is he?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:41:05
The board won the pools in February


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 17:42:02
Still not 1.5m though.

If the 1.5m is there now - then at a guess it would have been there in January? As far as I'm aware we havent had a windfall since January due to some sort of add on. If JJs figures are accurate then we spent 375k in January.

Obviously not enough to get us out of the trouble we were in.

Of course, the £1.5m figure still has no actual foundation behind it, does it?

Nope. The only thing I can think of is as I say it's the Austin money and we haven't spent any of it. When you take into account the 500k from Greer and Morrison and the 300k we netted back in legal fees from the Diamond Mike court case that would be the money we used to spend on players last season. I guess it all depends if the Austin money was stashed away for bills or summer spending or both. My guess is probably the first one though.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 18:21:59
Think it all comes down to how deep the board are prepared to reach in to their pockets, as we lose around £2m a season before transfers are taken in to account. If they are making funds available it's because they're digging deep.

Wouldn't surprise me though - Wray gave the impression they were paying a decent wage for PDC and they'd make funds available to support him. Not sure about £1.5m though, seems way over the top for League Two unless they're going to splash out for a striker (Le Fondre?).


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 18:26:42
the 300k we netted back in legal fees from the Diamond Mike court case

I bet Diamond Mike won't pay a penny of any legal fees back to the club. The money they released in the accounts will be a provision just in case they lost the case.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Power to people on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:17:32
You would not appoint someone of the calibre of Di Cannio and not give him any funds, I expect the board are gambling on increased gates, promotion straight back and increased sponsorship by releasing a few quid to spend.

Over Wilson's time he spent a few quid on players the board always seemed to back him.

We may also be due a few quid from the Cox deal for them staying in the premier and then him making his internation bow for ROI, also if Reading are promoted then we should be due money from the Morrison deal.

The only concerning thing for me is that Di Cannio does not know this level of english football so is not going to be up on the type of player that is required straight away he will need help but I expect we can attract a better calibre of player though, is he really going to decide on who stays and who goes by watching dvd's of last season's games ?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:24:21
I think tomorrow's press conference may ease our fears a little.

I can't see him having coaching staff made up solely of Italians. We may hear tomorrow about an assistant.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:34:52
I think tomorrow's press conference may ease our fears a little.

I can't see him having coaching staff made up solely of Italians. We may hear tomorrow about an assistant.



You never know. I dare say that he might have an assistant with a first team coach too. The cynic reminds me what happened when Oxford appointed Ramon Diaz who brought in an Argie staff and a few players with little to no success.

Either way, I am very much looking forward to tomorrows press conference.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Sunday, May 22, 2011, 20:05:33
Sorry, I am new to this place, have watched from afar (Shaw) for years, not sure if this has been covered but scroll down to the bottom of the link and enjoy the comments, one in particular that made me think if there was another 100 like him then the appointment of PDC will be worth every fucking penny.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1388957/Paolo-Di-Canio-new-Swindon-boss.html?ITO=1490


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: corner on Monday, May 23, 2011, 06:33:08
Di caino to sign at 1130, live on bbc wilts.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Benzel on Monday, May 23, 2011, 07:36:35
Sorry, I am new to this place, have watched from afar (Shaw) for years, not sure if this has been covered but scroll down to the bottom of the link and enjoy the comments, one in particular that made me think if there was another 100 like him then the appointment of PDC will be worth every fucking penny.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1388957/Paolo-Di-Canio-new-Swindon-boss.html?ITO=1490


Haha that is excellent. I hope it's genuine!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, May 23, 2011, 08:12:04
Di caino to sign at 1130, live on bbc wilts.

Excellent!  That is assuming BBC Wilts dont do the normal and instead of doing the press conference decide to talk about some old biddies shitty paintings!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: kaufman on Monday, May 23, 2011, 08:14:28
It seems some fans from other clubs are already getting their anti-fascist chants together and looking forward to riling up Paolo and the fans next season.
The Atmosphere at the country ground is going to be a slightly different one this year I think.
I just hope fans don't get into arguments and fights because of this or even use it as an excuse.
If only Tickertape was allowed in ground we could create our playoff game vs blackburn in 1990 all over again. The amount thrown that night is something I'll never forgot.
An Oxford home game on a tuesday night would probably be something some of the younger Swindon fans would never seen before in atmosphere and of course the actual fixture :)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, May 23, 2011, 08:26:13
I am hoping like when wise arrived it creates a us and them type atmosphere.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: china red on Monday, May 23, 2011, 08:29:19
If only Tickertape was allowed in ground we could create our playoff game vs blackburn in 1990 all over again. The amount thrown that night is something I'll never forgot.

[/quote]

Remember it like it was yesterday, would be great to get an atmosphere like that again at the CG


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Benzel on Monday, May 23, 2011, 08:44:12
I am hoping like when wise arrived it creates a us and them type atmosphere.
I can almost certainly see this being the case!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: yeo on Monday, May 23, 2011, 08:45:25
 Tickertapes banned?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, May 23, 2011, 08:55:36
By the way, first forum member to get the scarf-above-head shot as their avatar later today wins.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Gnasher on Monday, May 23, 2011, 09:09:12
By the way, first forum member to get the scarf-above-head shot as their avatar later today wins.

He didn't wave the scarf in a practice run this morning!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: china red on Monday, May 23, 2011, 09:10:27
An Italian friend just told me that there have been a few stories in the Italian press about Di Canio's appointment and sponsors leaving the club due to him being a fascist.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 23, 2011, 09:13:53
So do we have to guess what these stories are?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: nevillew on Monday, May 23, 2011, 09:17:13
Tickertapes banned?

One man banned ?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: china red on Monday, May 23, 2011, 09:17:40
So do we have to guess what these stories are?

Yeah, a big fat Cuban for the correct answer


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: otanswell on Monday, May 23, 2011, 09:41:13
It would seem the wizard on thisis is the target of some abuse this morning the little scamp, come on own up who is it


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Monday, May 23, 2011, 09:45:18
Here you go BR

www.corriere.it/sport/11_maggio_21/di-canio-accuse-francesco-tortora_cd49e830-83a6-11e0-8dd4-79550cb0ed2e.shtml

Translated to:

MILAN - always in Italy its sympathy towards the fascism the procura numerous critical from the attache's to the intense activities, but more exalts upset its fan. However never l' former soccer player Paul di Canio would have thought that its political faith could put in danger its career of trainer in England. Name from some day coach of the Swindon Town, formation that as soon as is degraded in League Two, the quarter English division, l' former forward of the Lazio quickly is incappato in the first grain: various sponsors of the British square have withdrawn their financings because they do not accept that the team is trained from a trainer “declared fascist”. The CRITICS - the quarantaduenne Of Canio it would have to be officially introduced from the Swindon Town next monday, but the decision of the sponsors to abandon the team financially could put in argument its nomination. Between the sponsors of the team c' it is also the mayoralty “Gmb Union” that they always give pursues anti-fascist politics. The mayoralty, than every year it pours 4000 pounds of sponsor, has quickly made to know that quest' year will not renew the financing because it cannot see approached its name to that one of a fascist trainer: “We have decided not to sponsor more the Swindow Town Football Club - Andy Newman has declared, secretary of Gmb Union -, we will not renew our agreement with they. We are a mayoralty of workers and we cannot have relationships trades them with a club that has a fascist trainer. We have not chosen. E' a sin, but we cannot make other”. THE PASSED DELL' FORMER LATIUM - Nevertheless till now in the United Kingdom Di Canio has always made to speak well about himself and, in nearly ten years of oltremanica agonistica activity, it is successful to conquer the sympathies of the sudditi ones of Its Maestà. Name soccer player dell' year in Scozia in season 1996-97, l' successive year arrives in England and it is asserted, above all during the years in the West Ham, like a forward of race and a soccer player much correcting. In 2000 it receives the Fair prize quite Play dell' year joined to an official letter of encomio of the FIFA, signed from Joseph Blatter in order having stopped the game during the game Everton-West Ham: l' forward in those match could mark all' last minute a goal decisive, but after to have seen the porter depressed to earth, it stopped the game and it allowed all' adversary of being aid. Sin that once returned on the Italian fields of soccer, Of Canio has not demonstrated to the same fair play and respect towards the adversaries. Between the gestures that more they have made fuss fuss there is that one of 6 January of 2005 at the end of the derby capitolino won from the Lazio for 3-1. The quarantaduenne one headed towards the biancoceleste curve and it celebrated the Victoria with the roman salute.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Gnasher on Monday, May 23, 2011, 10:08:26
It would seem the wizard on thisis is the target of some abuse this morning the little scamp, come on own up who is it

I always thought it was Reg


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: alanmayes on Monday, May 23, 2011, 10:13:43
SSN have said that they will be broadcasting this mornings press conference live from CG.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, May 23, 2011, 10:17:09
SSN have said that they will be broadcasting this mornings press conference live from CG.

We're reaping the benefits already.  Even if he does turn out to be a dud of a manager, this appointment was a marketing masterstroke.

I think the club is going to need to get a hefty consignment of replica shirts this summer along with plenty of letters D, C, A, N, O and especially I.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: phelpsieboy on Monday, May 23, 2011, 10:32:16
Sky sports news is giving us and di canio loads of coverage so far today


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, May 23, 2011, 10:44:57
Here's the fitness coach. http://it.linkedin.com/in/claudiodonatelli74


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 23, 2011, 10:49:51
Di Canio talks a good game, I am impressed so far by hs PR skills.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Rodney on Monday, May 23, 2011, 10:56:15
I'm hoping he also appoints a British coach though.  Also, does this mean the end of the road for Dave Morrison then??


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Monday, May 23, 2011, 10:56:47
He refused to answer any of the sky blokes questions at the airport.

Said it was unfair and that he could wait until the press conference like everyone else :D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Chubbs on Monday, May 23, 2011, 11:03:45
pato to swindon


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Power to people on Monday, May 23, 2011, 12:14:10
Why was his agent at the press conference on the top table ? reminds me of the Colin Todd days when he used his agent to sign players and I think he was on the wage bill


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 23, 2011, 12:19:31
Why was his agent at the press conference on the top table ? reminds me of the Colin Todd days when he used his agent to sign players and I think he was on the wage bill

Because he was signing the contract perhaps?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, May 23, 2011, 12:25:23
Who is/was the sponsor that gets mentioned in the conference as pulling out?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, May 23, 2011, 12:27:02
Ah, was referencing GMB and the supposed £4,000 they've paid this season for something or other...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Riddick on Monday, May 23, 2011, 12:28:00
The whole sponsor story is ridiculous. They give us 4k, its got far too much coverage already.

So who is joining his back room team?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: phelpsieboy on Monday, May 23, 2011, 12:34:25
sky sports now !


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: london_red on Monday, May 23, 2011, 12:39:40
Is there anywhere to view it online?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 23, 2011, 12:46:23
Anywhere online yet to view it or listen to it ??

Just got in from work and eager to hear what he has to say !!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Chubbs on Monday, May 23, 2011, 13:22:29
Anywhere online yet to view it or listen to it ??

Just got in from work and eager to hear what he has to say !!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13504650.stm


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, May 23, 2011, 13:33:39
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00h3tn2

5 live interview here.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: fuzzy on Monday, May 23, 2011, 13:35:36
From the BBC story (my bold)-

Di Canio says promotion is his key objective for next term: "Unfortunately the club was relegated, but I think around this club the people want revenge, they want to come back into League One".

Revenge!

He's only just signed on the dotted line and he's oozing the passion we need.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, May 23, 2011, 13:41:14
Go to the official website, oh wait they are still waiting for him to arrive. must have popped to the bogs to have a massive shit when he was doing his interview and missed him.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: london_red on Monday, May 23, 2011, 13:46:49
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00h3tn2

5 live interview here.

Interesting - asked straight up about the salute/his views. Dodges it slightly but says he has respect for all people and hopes they can respect him as a person, says he has nothing to prove to anyone.

Does seem to want to keep the focus on the football side - and can't fault his comments on that so far. Lets hope he lives up to his talk, certainly today hasn't raised any massive concerns about his management for me.

(Also jokingly asked at the end if he'd pick himself in the side - didn't say no....)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: MichaelPook on Monday, May 23, 2011, 13:55:12
how slooooow is the official website!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 23, 2011, 13:56:02
Spotted this in Friday's 'Fiver' from the Guardian. -

The FA Respect campaign will receive a boost following the news that friend of the referees Paolo Di Canio will become Swindon Town manager.


In other news, Swindon Town will be looking for a new manager in September.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Langers on Monday, May 23, 2011, 13:59:34
sky sports now !

They showed even less! So much for their 'live' coverage.

Still, we are already getting some publicity.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 23, 2011, 15:18:06
I'be just noticed he reminds me of a young Pete Postlethwaite


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 23, 2011, 15:23:05
IT IS HIM

[url width=160 height=152]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/jamiethon/DICANIO.jpg[/url]

[url width=200 height=252]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/jamiethon/POSTLE.jpg[/url]

Paolo Di Postlethwaite


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 23, 2011, 15:53:04
I always thought it was Reg

Now that is an insult...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: corner on Monday, May 23, 2011, 16:00:06
So who is our No.2? i cant make what he says in the interview, pete or sumthing.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Langers on Monday, May 23, 2011, 16:03:21
So who is our No.2? i cant make what he says in the interview, pete or sumthing.

Ex Inter Milan youth coach, I couldn't make out his name from the interview either.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: london_red on Monday, May 23, 2011, 16:17:26
Ex Inter youth coach Fabrizio Piccareta according to the OS


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 23, 2011, 16:20:37
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~2365486,00.html


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Gnasher on Monday, May 23, 2011, 16:45:37
Now that is an insult...

Sorry Reg  :D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: phelpsieboy on Monday, May 23, 2011, 16:48:32
Donatelli has 13 for fitness on FM, Morrison has 7, improvement !


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 23, 2011, 16:49:16
Sorry Reg  :D

Apology accepted....

There's a lot to take in from this interview....going to be a fascinating close and pre season.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Monday, May 23, 2011, 16:49:59
Are you coming round to the appointment yet Reg?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 23, 2011, 16:58:19
Are you coming round to the appointment yet Reg?

Not the man I wanted...would have preferred Hamann, have serious doubts about the type of player we'll be getting and keeping, but I do have an open mind.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:01:10
TBF, the quotes from the press conference look good. Won't get too overexcited about the milan link-up - youth teams the wolrd over are full of duds, regardless of the club - but if nothing else raises the profile of the club.

Lets hope this all comes good


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:06:21
Not the man I wanted...would have preferred Hamann, have serious doubts about the type of player we'll be getting and keeping, but I do have an open mind.

You're a grumpy sod Reg.

Give him a chance.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:06:52
You're a grumpy sod Reg.

Give him a chance.

He just said he would!!!!!!!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:09:57
From what I heard of the press conference, he certainly talks a good game.

Like Reg, I'm still a little sceptic (purely on footballing grounds) but I am open minded and willing to wait and see what happens.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:11:29
I'm going 'balls out the bath' on this one... he'll be brilliant


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: strooood on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:20:08
If he stays, which he insists he will, we are going to win the League.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:21:46
And the cup


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:24:12
Both cups and the football league trophy


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:35:24
You're a grumpy sod Reg.

Give him a chance.

You should try opening your mind Ralphy.....


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:35:48
Impressive set of interviews he gave.

Crucial we get in a coach with experience/knowledge of the lower leagues still



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:36:18
I am reassured by his words that he would focus on English players, sensible.

The agent seems to be a prominent figure, this could be a worry. But I'm not overly concerned about it right now.

He's here, the folks who don't like it will have to get on with it. I really hope it works out for us.

YOU REDS!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Wiggler on Monday, May 23, 2011, 17:39:49
From what I heard of the press conference, he certainly talks a good game.

Like Reg, I'm still a little sceptic (purely on footballing grounds) but I am open minded and willing to wait and see what happens.

so what you're saying is you've got a fencepost jammed three foot up your backside until we get promoted or he leaves  :D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, May 23, 2011, 18:05:13
Yes, that's exactly what I meant.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, May 23, 2011, 18:07:38
Just watched the presser from start to finish, 25ish minutes. I wasn't convinced but hes won me over completely. Intelligent, entertaining and passionate, and he seems to know exactly what hes doing. He has a plan formulated in his head and is desperate for success.

Only nagging concern is the prominent agent, but cant see that being an issue going forward.

Forza Swindon!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 23, 2011, 18:17:06
Where did you watch the press conference ?? On BBC site ?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, May 23, 2011, 18:18:16
No, through work. Cant imagine its available in full any where?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 23, 2011, 18:25:29
I've seen snippets here and there, wish STFC World would pull their finger out and put it on the OS.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, May 23, 2011, 18:26:29
I think the things that I liked most was that he talked of how he always tried to be the manager as a player; he had ideas he always wanted to get across and now he can. I liked his clear expectation to win. The fact he knew what was expected and rather than come across as intimidated by it, he says he's excited by it, which was how it came across.

He's obviously ambitious and is no doubt aware that failure here will cause damage to his career that would take a long time to heal. That speaks volumes about his confidence in both himself and us.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 23, 2011, 18:31:11
When are the players due back ? Monday 27th June ?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 23, 2011, 18:31:40
I think he's done homework on this league as well

Talking about the physical side. He also says he'd like to get a couple of brainy players who may not be physical themselves, but aren't afraid of the physical stuff.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Monday, May 23, 2011, 18:34:13

He's obviously ambitious and is no doubt aware that failure here will cause damage to his career that would take a long time to heal. That speaks volumes about his confidence in both himself and us.

Indeed, one of the things I said in my pro Hamann post was the fact he has nothing to fall back on, so his career is on the line. Di Canio being a first time manager also is in the same boat. Fail at L2 Swindon who else will take you on?

They have to succeed for themselves, unlike say a George Burley who can live off winning manager of the year in 2001 or Peter Taylor managing Leicester in the Premier League.

Di Canio is ambitions and has a desire to win but more importantly it seems Wray shares that ambition and desire to win. Lets hope its infectious and filters down through the whole club.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:03:34
Obviously physicallity will play a part. But I think the real secret of success in this league will be getting players to have movement off the ball, especially at home.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: joteddyred on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:11:30
Indeed, one of the things I said in my pro Hamann post was the fact he has nothing to fall back on, so his career is on the line. Di Canio being a first time manager also is in the same boat. Fail at L2 Swindon who else will take you on?

They have to succeed for themselves, unlike say a George Burley who can live off winning manager of the year in 2001 or Peter Taylor managing Leicester in the Premier League.

Di Canio is ambitions and has a desire to win but more importantly it seems Wray shares that ambition and desire to win. Lets hope its infectious and filters down through the whole club.

Has the appointment of Di Canio done enough to get you to renew DV or are you going to wait and see how the season starts out?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:19:09
Obviously physicallity will play a part. But I think the real secret of success in this league will be getting players to have movement off the ball, especially at home.

As a matter of interest, what do people think was the reason for success last time we were in this pickle?

For me Wise and Poyet get everyone fit and everyone knowing exactly what their role was and how we were going to play. And the players went with it 100%, perhaps because of who they are and what they have done.

He had a few good players, but not all world beaters. First game starters:

Peter BREZOVAN
Jamie VINCENT                                  
Andy NICHOLAS
Jerel IFIL                                    
Jack SMITH                          
Andy MONKHOUSE                                  
Michael POOK
Curtis WESTON                                   
Ricky SHAKES   
Christian ROBERTS
Lee PEACOCK


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: mrverve on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:22:24
Very impressed with him. One of my all time favourite players aswell. He came across well, he spoke sense and i'm glad he made a point of saying that his political beliefs are his private life and has no impact on how he does in his job. Fantastic.

One thing I did notice is that PDC said when HE got the phone call to come to town he really fancied the challenge. I thought the club were only interviewing candidates that applied. Maybe he applied, got the interview and then was called to say that he got the job. I don't know.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:25:34
I thought the club were only interviewing candidates that applied. Maybe he applied, got the interview and then was called to say that he got the job. I don't know.

I think he was saying his agent called him and told him about the job, and he applied


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: mrverve on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:29:17
I think he was saying his agent called him and told him about the job, and he applied

Yeah maybe. Didn't think of it like that.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:37:30
Di Canio is coming on Radio 5 Live in the next 25 minutes or so.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:38:30
Di Canio is coming on Radio 5 Live in the next 25 minutes or so.
Fucking hell, these Italians are passionate, aren't they


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:40:50
All sound very good from PDC from the press conference!

I am sure someone has brought this up but I hope with the potential shipping over of Italian players, PDC is just a little careful as we will need people with a certain mindset to tackle a Tuesday night in Morecombe.

Not 100% what we'd get with Italian youth teamers ....

 


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:41:32
Fucking hell, these Italians are passionate, aren't they

Ba doom. Tsch


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:42:48
Something I have noticed

We often don't have nearly as many people on line during a match day


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:46:44
I don't want to dwell on this point but I still feel uneasy about his politics. However, I think this is simply down to not agreeing with his ideologies.

Di Canio is correct, this is about football. Wray is right too, it's none of our business and was none of his business to talk about it during a professional work interview. For all I know, Don Rogers could be a BNP sympathiser.

Onwards and upwards.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Langers on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:48:43
On R5L now.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:49:20
Has the appointment of Di Canio done enough to get you to renew DV or are you going to wait and see how the season starts out?

If you'd have asked me after the season ended if us appointing Di Canio as manager would have made me renew then i'd have said yes.

In truth, no - whilst I think its a good appointment and he seems like a winner, I'm still not bothered, still not fussed, still not excited.

I've never felt so emotionless towards STFC before. It might seem melodramatic but I think going every week, living and breathing STFC, having the result dictate my mood for the entire week might be done for me.

....or I might completely change my mind when we start signing some players!!

We've got what seems like a good prospect as a manager, some pretty well qualified back room staff but the changing room is still full of utter fucking dross.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:57:01
I think it's the players we really awaiting for. If the new signings don't inspire then you won't get the spark back for a while. Fair enough.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 23, 2011, 19:59:43
We certainly shouldn't expect to much. Asides from older players on the verge of retiring, I doubt there'll be many signings whose names we even recognise


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Wiggler on Monday, May 23, 2011, 20:02:28

We've got what seems like a good prospect as a manager, some pretty well qualified back room staff but the changing room is still full of utter fucking dross.

Spot on, and this is partly why I'm so excited by this appointment  :notworthy:

We needed to bring someone in to stop the abysmal rot we've found ourselves in and give some of these players a fucking rocket. Can you imagine David Prutton for example swanning around midfield in second gear with DiCanio watching on from the sidelines?!

I think there will be some casualties, but the players will have a choice, step it up or not get a look in. and hopefully we'll see some of last seasons deadwood acually coming to life again.

You never know he might even manage to convince Vince he's a striker  :clap:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Nemo on Monday, May 23, 2011, 20:04:15
You never know he might even manage to convince Vince he's a striker  :clap:

I really think we might be expecting too much of the guy now.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Monday, May 23, 2011, 20:07:02
In truth I hope to never see David Prutton in our midfield again or Pericard upfront for that matter.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Monday, May 23, 2011, 20:47:48
By the way, first forum member to get the scarf-above-head shot as their avatar later today wins.

Am i too late? ???


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:18:33
You never know he might even manage to convince Vince he's a striker  :clap:

Steady on, don't get too far carried away!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: joteddyred on Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:21:46

I've never felt so emotionless towards STFC before. It might seem melodramatic but I think going every week, living and breathing STFC, having the result dictate my mood for the entire week might be done for me.

....or I might completely change my mind when we start signing some players!!

We've got what seems like a good prospect as a manager, some pretty well qualified back room staff but the changing room is still full of utter fucking dross.

I think most regular supporters get to a point at some time when STFC is no longer the be all and end all of their life, priorities change and other things take over.  My point was probably when I had my first son and stopped going regularly for a few years.  I still cared, but it wasn't as important as it had been and if we had a bad result, it didn't bother me for more than 15 minutes or so.  It's amazing how quickly the passion came flooding back though when I started going full-time again though,  although I've managed to keep my mood after a bad result in check better than I used to.  A bit longer than 15 minutes now, probably a few hours, but not a few days like it used to be!  I put some of that down to my 7 year attending with me, he's learnt from a young age how to put a dire performance/result into perspective!

I was thinking about the players earlier and wondering what Di Canio will make of them.  It's going to be an interesting month or so in terms of who stays, who goes and who arrives.  I feel far more excited about it all than I did yesterday and I feel optimistic that next season will be eventful and hopefully enjoyable.  I hope the excitement comes back for you at some point, I'll be surprised if it doesn't  :)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bert1981 on Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:45:08
I think most regular supporters get to a point at some time when STFC is no longer the be all and end all of their life, priorities change and other things take over.  My point was probably when I had my first son and stopped going regularly for a few years.  I still cared, but it wasn't as important as it had been and if we had a bad result, it didn't bother me for more than 15 minutes or so.  It's amazing how quickly the passion came flooding back though when I started going full-time again though,  although I've managed to keep my mood after a bad result in check better than I used to.  A bit longer than 15 minutes now, probably a few hours, but not a few days like it used to be!  I put some of that down to my 7 year attending with me, he's learnt from a young age how to put a dire performance/result into perspective!


I have made the decision from next season to stop going for the same reason, my son is 11 months old and my priorities have changed. I'm still a fan and I still care about the club, but it's not the same as it used to be, there was a time where if we lost it would ruin my entire week until the next game, now I can put it into perspective and move on. I will still go to a few games, mostly evening ones and I really can't wait until my son is old enough to start going, then we can both be regulars again. PDC has sparked my interest again after the shambles of this season and i'm looking forward to seeing what happens over the summer, he said all the right things today.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: joteddyred on Monday, May 23, 2011, 21:54:04
I have made the decision from next season to stop going for the same reason, my son is 11 months old and my priorities have changed. I'm still a fan and I still care about the club, but it's not the same as it used to be, there was a time where if we lost it would ruin my entire week until the next game, now I can put it into perspective and move on. I will still go to a few games, mostly evening ones and I really can't wait until my son is old enough to start going, then we can both be regulars again. PDC has sparked my interest again after the shambles of this season and i'm looking forward to seeing what happens over the summer, he said all the right things today.

And then once you get him involved, you'll have to live with the guilt of dragging him into a relationship that will play on every emotion possible  :D  My son went from a day out at Wembley to relegation in his first full year of watching, so on to the rollercoaster ride of being a Swindon fan he came.  He's already asking when the first game of the season is, so it can't have scarred him yet!  :D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Notts red on Monday, May 23, 2011, 22:07:10
 A big hello to all fellow town fans :) first time post from me but have been a big fan of this forum for some time. Like a lot of you I felt really proud today to see the pictures of Pdc holding aloft the Swindon scarf. Have followed town since mid 70's so have seen many ups and downs along the way and today hopefully will be the start of the good days returning. I can take and give a bit of banter so hope you make me welcome. U reds !


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: deltaincline on Monday, May 23, 2011, 22:39:25
Welcome, you complete cunt.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Freddies Ferret on Monday, May 23, 2011, 22:40:27
Welcome notts :)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Luci on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 05:54:17
Welcome!!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 05:55:03
Let's hope he knows about the c*** thing.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 06:07:46
I'm 500 odd posts in and never been called one, I got called a bellend once but I'm not entirely sure that was aimed at me.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 06:48:25
If you'd have asked me after the season ended if us appointing Di Canio as manager would have made me renew then i'd have said yes.

In truth, no - whilst I think its a good appointment and he seems like a winner, I'm still not bothered, still not fussed, still not excited.

I've never felt so emotionless towards STFC before. It might seem melodramatic but I think going every week, living and breathing STFC, having the result dictate my mood for the entire week might be done for me.

....or I might completely change my mind when we start signing some players!!

We've got what seems like a good prospect as a manager, some pretty well qualified back room staff but the changing room is still full of utter fucking dross.

You'll be back. I can sense it...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 08:35:04
I'm 500 odd posts in and never been called one, I got called a bellend once but I'm not entirely sure that was aimed at me.
Oh shut up you attention seeking cunt


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: slinky on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 09:32:53
I'm 500 odd posts in and never been called one, I got called a bellend once but I'm not entirely sure that was aimed at me.

Donzo you are a complete babe!  Does that count?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 10:03:08
I don't know much about football management, but I thought he was really good in "Titanic" and "Gangs of New York".


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Notts red on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 10:50:32
I stayed up last night waiting for the " welcome cunt " comments but didn't get many so am happier now I've received a few ! Glad to be part of the happy? Forum.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: bullethead on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 11:24:07
I stayed up last night waiting for the " welcome cunt " comments but didn't get many so am happier now I've received a few ! Glad to be part of the happy? Forum.
Welcome Notts, from a "babe" that lurks more than posts!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 15:25:14
has di canio started work now or fucked off back to italy?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: corner on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 15:28:43
has di canio started work now or fucked off back to italy?
Back to italy with some dirty dvds.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 15:28:52
Playing in a charity match at the san siro than back in tomorow.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: slinky on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 16:00:13
Lets hope this ash cloud doesn't hang around for long then!  There is a squad to be built!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 16:21:55
Really don't get people who say this.

How can you just ditch the club you love and have supported all your life just because you don't like the manager ???

I will not be ditching the Town. I have supported the club since the 1970s when, at the age of 11, I was taken to my first game at the CG. I could never imagine supporting anybody else. What I can not do is put money into the pocket of a self-professed fascist by purchasing my season ticket or buying any club merchandise.

I know my protest is very small and futile, and most people think I'm being a "do-gooder" or a raving leftie, but I have to stick to what I beleive. I will not be attending any home matches while Di Canio is manager. I will, however, attend as many away games as possible in order to support my team without paying anything into the town's coffers.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 16:26:09
That's fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion. Don't see how you'll be lining Di Canio's pockets though. The club yes but not him personally.

I think you'll miss some good football too which is a shame.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Family at War on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 19:17:05
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swindon-town/8531670/Paolo-di-Canio-arrives-at-Swindon-Town-promising-to-take-promotion-quest-seriously.html

Good article in the Telegraph today.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Notts red on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 19:36:56
Dorset red, glad to hear you will be still supporting the town. Maybe in time your views on Pdc will soften as it sounds like he really wants to make the connection with us fans. If we are to go straight back up we will need every bit of support we can get.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 19:46:22
I will, however, attend as many away games as possible in order to support my team without paying anything into the town's coffers.

I'm glad you found a way to square watching Town with yourself.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 19:57:49
I will not be ditching the Town. I have supported the club since the 1970s when, at the age of 11, I was taken to my first game at the CG. I could never imagine supporting anybody else. What I can not do is put money into the pocket of a self-professed fascist by purchasing my season ticket or buying any club merchandise.

I know my protest is very small and futile, and most people think I'm being a "do-gooder" or a raving leftie, but I have to stick to what I beleive. I will not be attending any home matches while Di Canio is manager. I will, however, attend as many away games as possible in order to support my team without paying anything into the town's coffers.
i dont get your stance here. a break from stfc because of your views on di canio i understand,but going to away games defeats the object imo.
happy to put money into rival clubs but not your own?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: SirWinston on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 20:38:09
I think most regular supporters get to a point at some time when STFC is no longer the be all and end all of their life, priorities change and other things take over.  My point was probably when I had my first son and stopped going regularly for a few years.  I still cared, but it wasn't as important as it had been and if we had a bad result, it didn't bother me for more than 15 minutes or so.  It's amazing how quickly the passion came flooding back though when I started going full-time again though,  although I've managed to keep my mood after a bad result in check better than I used to.  A bit longer than 15 minutes now, probably a few hours, but not a few days like it used to be!  I put some of that down to my 7 year attending with me, he's learnt from a young age how to put a dire performance/result into perspective!


Likewise JTR.  When my kids were young, I barely went and perspective on the Town and life kicked in.  When my lad turned 4 I started taking him to occasional games and we're now into our third year as season ticket holders.  I absolutely love it (Keegan) again, but the perspective is still there, unlike the teens to mid twenties period (up until McMahon broke my spirit) when my general mood hinged on how the Town were performing.

I think that the PDC period will ultimately be a brief, but far from dull period in our history and I'm looking forward to it.  It's likely to be one hell of a ride, so strap yourselves in.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 20:50:17
i dont get your stance here. a break from stfc because of your views on di canio i understand,but going to away games defeats the object imo.
happy to put money into rival clubs but not your own?
Sort of. This is a toughie for me.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 20:57:31
I stayed up last night waiting for the " welcome cunt " comments but didn't get many so am happier now I've received a few ! Glad to be part of the happy? Forum.

At least you got called a cunt   :(


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 20:59:33
Sort of. This is a toughie for me.

I don't have principles. Life's soooooo much easier that way.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Coca Fola on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 21:05:33
Sort of. This is a toughie for me.
All you're doing is punishing yourself.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 21:10:47
I wonder if Di Canio would have stood for us wearing fucking white at fucking Wembley? I suspect not. Random I know. It just occurred to me though and felt the need share.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arch Stanton on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 21:11:05
I was a bit concerned that I wouldnt be seeing the same old faces sat around me next season, that a lot of season tickets would go unrenewed  - but I think they'll all be back because of Di Canio, the buzz this mans created is simply electric.

It'll be interesting to see the overall effect on season ticket sales.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 21:16:13
The white at Wembley thing was odd.

On the Bright side, the mighty reds have still never lost at Wembley


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: matt_jada on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 21:23:43
interesting close up of his tattoo




Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 21:44:41
The white at Wembley thing was odd.

On the Bright side, the mighty reds have still never lost at Wembley

it wasn't odd.it was a fucking disgrace and showed how out of touch the board were with the supporters.i honestly believe it played a big part in the day being as shit as it was


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 21:47:27
it wasn't odd.it was a fucking disgrace and showed how out of touch the board were with the supporters.i honestly believe it played a big part in the day being as shit as it was

:nod:

For any faults he may have, PDC would have not put up with that. I'm sure of it.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 21:50:27
I wonder if Di Canio would have stood for us wearing fucking white at fucking Wembley? I suspect not. Random I know. It just occurred to me though and felt the need share.
Not forgetting that we DID win the League cup wearing white. (However I agree we should have worn red)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 21:51:36
it wasn't odd.it was a fucking disgrace and showed how out of touch the board were with the supporters.i honestly believe it played a big part in the day being as shit as it was

Still reckon it was sponsorship related, even if that was just the board thinking we owed EA Sports TV time. "The players said they wanted white" just sounds like BS.

Let it go Batch, let it go.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 22:00:59
interesting close up of his tattoo
Fairly unambiguous don't you think? And what about a photo of the Lazio fans he was so fond of saluting?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: dave_bambers_right_sock on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 22:15:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JhuOicPFZY&feature=player_embedded

is this how the team talks will be from now on?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 22:30:07
Oh shut up you attention seeking cunt

Ahhh, thanks.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 05:51:49
Fairly unambiguous don't you think? And what about a photo of the Lazio fans he was so fond of saluting?

I can't see di Canio saluting in that picture? Maybe, just maybe, you've taken a random Lazio picture off the internet and used it to reinforce your own idea of the man?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 06:05:37
[url width=468 height=370]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q12/herthab/Englishfans.jpg[/url]

Look in the top right corner. Proof that all England fans are nazi's.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 06:06:35
[url width=900 height=508]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q12/herthab/rangers_nazi_salute_israel_2.jpg[/url]

Glasgow Rangers. All their fans are nazi's.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 06:07:49
[url width=800 height=600]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q12/herthab/Nazi-Flag-Fan-Barcelona-Real-Madrid-1997_1612090.jpg[/url]

Barcelona fans. All nazi's.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 06:51:57
I will not be ditching the Town. I have supported the club since the 1970s when, at the age of 11, I was taken to my first game at the CG. I could never imagine supporting anybody else. What I can not do is put money into the pocket of a self-professed fascist by purchasing my season ticket or buying any club merchandise.

I know my protest is very small and futile, and most people think I'm being a "do-gooder" or a raving leftie, but I have to stick to what I beleive. I will not be attending any home matches while Di Canio is manager. I will, however, attend as many away games as possible in order to support my team without paying anything into the town's coffers.

That's bizarre reasoning - what if everyone took that approach ?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: sheepshagger on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 07:00:51
This is where Dorset's moral argument starts to crumble really...

If everyone took Dorsets approach the club would go under - very simple

He is happy for other people to pump money into the club so that he can follow his personal agenda and go to away games

what happens if we draw West Ham away in the F.A. Cup ?  Do you go or not ?  The away team get a share of the gate receipts in the F.A.Cup

Does Herta's pictures mean all England, Barca and Rangers fans are Fascists as well ?  If this carries on he won't even be able to watch footie on TV - I hope you have cancelled your Sky package ?!?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 07:29:25
Still reckon it was sponsorship related, even if that was just the board thinking we owed EA Sports TV time. "The players said they wanted white" just sounds like BS.

Let it go Batch, let it go.

I can't and won't let go.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: wiggy on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 07:55:16
I wish BBC Wiltshire would stop harping on about forging links with AC Milan and Spurs. Di Canio has said he wants players who understand the league - we are not going to suddenly get players who would normally be loaned to clubs much higher up the football ladder.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 09:00:07
[url width=900 height=508]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q12/herthab/rangers_nazi_salute_israel_2.jpg[/url]

Glasgow Rangers. All their fans are nazi's.

Even the ones with Israeli flags ?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 13:09:44
Apologies if these have already been linked, but two interesting articles below concerning the new appointment.

http://thewashbag.com/2011/05/24/worldwide-reactions-to-di-canio-appointment/

http://theseventytwo.com/football-league/league-2/2011/05/24/majority-rules-as-paolo-di-canio-sweeps-into-swindon/


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 14:39:20
That second one is a very well written article.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 15:45:24
That's bizarre reasoning - what if everyone took that approach ?
If everyone took that approach the club would be forced to remove Di Canio or ensure he issues a statement distancing humself from anti-semitism. Sounds like quite a good outcome to me.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 15:48:50
This is where Dorset's moral argument starts to crumble really...

If everyone took Dorsets approach the  club would go under - very simple
I don't see how that undermines my moral positioin at all. Despite all the good footballing reasons I disagree with an appointment the club has made because  some things are bigger and more important than football. Therefore I choose not to spend any money at the club while the current situation prevails. Is that difficult to understand? If we were to have an away game in the cup I would not go.

Incidentally, this is the first time since the mid 1970s that I have felt so strongly about a club matter that I have considered staying away. Unlike some who stayed away becasue they simply didn't like King, Malpas, McMahon, Beamish etc etc etc


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 15:52:02
If everyone took that approach the club would be forced to remove Di Canio or ensure he issues a statement distancing humself from anti-semitism. Sounds like quite a good outcome to me.

He's never made any anti semetic remark. Why does he have to distance himself from it?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 15:52:35
Even the ones with Israeli flags ?

Especially them! Fucking Jewish Nazi's, the lot of 'em.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 15:54:13
I can't see di Canio saluting in that picture? Maybe, just maybe, you've taken a random Lazio picture off the internet and used it to reinforce your own idea of the man?
The photograph comes from Das Bild and was part of the article about Di Canio being reprimanded for his fascist salutes, and Lazio having to ban the display of nazi symbols inside the ground. It was taken at the same game and shows the fans Di Canio was saluting. However, if you wish to bury your head in the sand please feel free to continue. ::)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: london_red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 15:54:41
Especially them! Fucking Jewish Nazi's, the lot of 'em.

 :D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 15:54:52
Well I'm not going to ever watch ryan giggs until he distances himself from slappers. That'll teach him.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: A Gent Orange on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 15:55:57
Apologies if these have already been linked, but two interesting articles below concerning the new appointment.
http://theseventytwo.com/football-league/league-2/2011/05/24/majority-rules-as-paolo-di-canio-sweeps-into-swindon/

Has that blog post been put through Babelfish? It's like English, but much of it doesn't actually make sense. Which slightly undermines the fact that parts of it are interesting.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: adje on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 15:56:09
I take it we wont be sponsoring him this season.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 15:56:42
He's never made any anti semetic remark. Why does he have to distance himself from it?
Anti-semitism is part of the very fabric of the Italian fascist movement (read a history book and look at laws passed in 1938 which banned all Jewish people from holding public office). Di Canio is a self-proclaimed fascist. You do the maths! :doh:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 15:58:44
To play (slight) devil's advocate, not every supporter of the Labour party agrees with everything the party did in 1938.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: adje on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:01:29
As a Town fan I'm worried I wont be welcome at any more Men They Couldn't Hang gigs.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:01:42
Anti-semitism is part of the very fabric of the Italian fascist movement (read a history book and look at laws passed in 1938 which banned all Jewish people from holding public office). Di Canio is a self-proclaimed fascist. You do the maths! :doh:

No. Anti-semitism was part of the facist movement in Italy. 1938 was a while ago, I don't think di Canio was around then, was he?

The man finds some things to admire in Italian facism. I find some things to admire in socialism, but it doesn't make me a communist, or a pro gulag adherent! You can find certain things appealing yet still be repulsed by others, the world isn't made up of black and white.

Your math seems to be 2 + 2 = 5.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: adje on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:04:24
Agree with that Herthab.Dont want to appear picky though,but could you say "maths" in future?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:06:41
Agree with that Herthab.Dont want to appear picky though,but could you say "maths" in future?

No. One sum is math. Lots of sums are maths.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:06:50
No. Anti-semitism was part of the facist movement in Italy.
...and still is.

I find some things to admire in socialism,
So do you have a tattoo of Stalin on your back?

So if, as you maintain, Di Canio only finds certain things to admire in fascism, would it be too big a deal for him to say that he opposes anti-Semitism? Let him publicly distance himself from those parts of fascism he finds repulsive, we can stop arguing, and I can renew my season ticket.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:12:05
To play (slight) devil's advocate, not every supporter of the Labour party agrees with everything the party did in 1938.
True. Your point being? (incidentally when exactly was it that the Labour party, or any other modern British government passed anti-Semitic legislation?)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:14:11
...and still is.
 So do you have a tattoo of Stalin on your back?

Show me where di Canio has stated he is anti-semetic?

I think you need to delve a lot deeper before considering yourself an expert on Italian facism:

 Italian Fascism's position on the Jews was much more complicated than this would suggest. Until 1938, when Mussolini bowed to German pressure and enacted an Italian version of the infamous Nuremberg laws, Fascist ideology was free of any elements of anti-Semitism, and the party's membership rolls were open to Jews, who joined in roughly the same proportion to their numbers as non-Jews.

More than 200 Jews participated in the 1922 march on Rome, which installed Mussolini in power. Jews who achieved prominence under Fascism included Aldo Finzi, a member of the first Fascist Grand Council; Guido Jung, Minister of Finance from 1932 to 1935; and Maurizio Rava, Governor of Italian Somaliland and a general in the Fascist militia.

In World War II, Mussolini steadfastly refused to surrender Italian Jews to the Germans for deportation, and it was only after his overthrow in July 1943 and the subsequent German occupation of Italy that mass roundups began. In the Italian-occupied areas in Southern France and Croatia, as Goebbels bitterly noted in his diaries, the local Jews enjoyed military protection against Nazi efforts to deport them.
the Jewish survival rate in Italy in World War II was among Europe's highest.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:22:35
Show me where di Canio has stated he is anti-semetic?
At a meeting with survivors of the German death camps whilst a Lazio player, Di Canio (and others) heard what happened to the Jews during the war. At no point did he dennounce the actions of German Nazis or their Italian allies and collaborators. His bland statement that all sides did bad things served only to deflect attention away from his position.

When asked about his politics on Five Live the other day, he again dodged the question. The man is tainted by his own refusal to distance himself from anti-Semitism.

With regard to your "research" on fascism, try reading something other than the first New York Times article you find. Maybe you start with Tobias Jones' book "The Dark Heart of Italy" which is very telling about the current state of politics in Italy, and particularly revealing about the modern Italian fascist movement.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: sheepshagger on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:23:12
Dorset - it's YOUR point that has stopped making sense I am afraid !!

Why should PDC distance himself from anything ?  Why should he come out with a political statement just to make a very small (minded) number of people happy ?

He made a couple of salutes to 50,000 Lazio fans that were doing it to him - get over it !!

He said his political leanings were towards fascism - get over it !!

He never said however that he hates jews, blacks, gays, Indians, Arabs, Welsh, Scottish or Uncle Tom Cobbley - had he openly said that I would say you have a point - for me you just don't

He also never said that he thought Mussolini was right - he said he admired certain things about the man - I admire certain things about Hitler - does that make me a Nazi ?  Of course it doesn't - that would be a fundamentally stupid thing to say !!

When someone has NOT said something it doesn't mean he thinks yes or no on that particular subject - the fact is we do not know what he thinks about a lot of things - and that is the way it should be !  

Unfortunately you are taking this and saying he should say something about it - why should he ?  It's none of your business to know what he privately thinks.  His statements about politics have not been clear cut at all - but as Herta said you are taking 2+2 and making up random numbers to try and support your argument....

Sorry - for me you are just plain wrong on this one - you can and have made up your mind and that's fair enough - but every time you try to justify it you sound more desperate  


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:29:20
At a meeting with survivors of the German death camps whilst a Lazio player, Di Canio (and others) heard what happened to the Jews during the war. At no point did he dennounce the actions of German Nazis or their Italian allies and collaborators. His bland statement that all sides did bad things served only to deflect attention away from his position.

When asked about his politics on Five Live the other day, he again dodged the question. The man is tainted by his own refusal to distance himself from anti-Semitism.


He has publicly stated in his autobiography that he found the actions of Mussolini vile.

What's that? Deja vu?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:34:04
At a meeting with survivors of the German death camps whilst a Lazio player, Di Canio (and others) heard what happened to the Jews during the war. At no point did he dennounce the actions of German Nazis or their Italian allies and collaborators. His bland statement that all sides did bad things served only to deflect attention away from his position.

When asked about his politics on Five Live the other day, he again dodged the question. The man is tainted by his own refusal to distance himself from anti-Semitism.

With regard to your "research" on fascism, try reading something other than the first New York Times article you find. Maybe you start with Tobias Jones' book "The Dark Heart of Italy" which is very telling about the current state of politics in Italy, and particularly revealing about the modern Italian fascist movement.

Yes, the internet is a wonderful place, you can find lots of research to help you prove, or disprove anything!

The point isn't what happen in 1938, or 1943. It's whether a person should be vilified for what he may, or may not, agree with.

He has facist sympathies, that he admits. He has never openly espoused racist, or anti semetic views, that is your interpretation.

Until he does, he's not really done anything, has he?

Judge the man, not your blinkered view of him. 


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:35:54
Dorset - it's YOUR point that has stopped making sense I am afraid !!

Why should PDC distance himself from anything ?  Why should he come out with a political statement just to make a very small (minded) number of people happy ?
If it is small minded to appose fascism then I am guilty as charged.

He never said however that he hates jews...
But the Italian fascist movement has form in this regard. If you choose to stand in poo you end up smelling.
He also never said that he thought Mussolini was right - he said he admired certain things about the man - I admire certain things about Hitler - does that make me a Nazi ?  Of course it doesn't - that would be a fundamentally stupid thing to say !!
So he just had the MASSIVE tatto of Il Duce put on his back becasue he sort of quite likes a few things he did? Get real, or are you off to get and Adolf Hitler tattoo this weekend?
When someone has NOT said something it doesn't mean he thinks yes or no on that particular subject - the fact is we do not know what he thinks about a lot of things - and that is the way it should be !  
Normally I would agree with you, but Di Canio HIMSELF made politics an issue when he brought it onto the pitch by giving the fascist salute on at least three occasions that I know of.

By very publicly associating himself with an organisation that is known to have anti-Semitic elements, he owes it to Jewish supporters (and anybody else who claims to despise anti-Semitism) to make his position clear.
Why do you find this so difficult?




Title: Re: di canio
Post by: sheepshagger on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:39:26
 :doh:

I have to go out now - but I am dumbfounded by your post - I will reply later....


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:41:52
Despite all the good footballing reasons I disagree with an appointment the club has made because some things are bigger and more important than football. Therefore I choose not to spend any money at the club while the current situation prevails. Is that difficult to understand? If we were to have an away game in the cup I would not go.

Incidentally, this is the first time since the mid 1970s that I have felt so strongly about a club matter that I have considered staying away. Unlike some who stayed away becasue they simply didn't like King, Malpas, McMahon, Beamish etc etc etc
This is exactly how I feel, and I'm damned if I'm going to get dragged into an argument about the relative merits of fascism. I mean, just look at some of the stuff you apologists have found yourselves writing. Really?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:43:46
... It's whether a person should be vilified for what he may, or may not, agree with.
And are you saying we shouldn't do that sort of thing. I'm sure Osama might have been vilified for what he believed. Are you saying the west was wrong?
He has facist sympathies, that he admits. He has never openly espoused racist, or anti semetic views, that is your interpretation.
Indeed. So is it unreasonable to ask him to make his position clear having so publicly alligned himself with the fascist movement?

Judge the man, not your blinkered view of him.  
Hang on, I am ATTEMPTING to do just that. I want to know where he stands on an issue which  is very important to some people (often for reasons too horrendous to even contemplate). Let him be a man and tell us where he stands.
However, if being blinkered means I have to tolerate fascism and all its extremities, then  I will keep the blinkers firmly on.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:46:05
He has openly stated that he is not a racist. He has also openly stated that he found the actions of Mussolini vile

If that's not enough, then nothing ever will be.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:48:14
He has publicly stated in his autobiography that he found the actions of Mussolini vile.

What's that? Deja vu?


His book just arrived at my door today. I'm very intrigued to learn about his political views and his upbringing. Apparently he had a rough time when growing up and although it's by no means any excuse at all, joining Lazio's Ultras probably gave him a sense of purpose on this earth when he was youngster.

He then discovered he was rather good at playing football and the rest is history.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: axs on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:50:02
No. One sum is math. Lots of sums are maths.

But your maths is maths, not math.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:50:20
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Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:54:09
He has openly stated that he is not a racist.
Was that before or after he saluted the banner that read "Team of Blacks. Crowd of Jews" aimed at Roma?
He has also openly stated that he found the actions of Mussolini vile
If that's not enough, then nothing ever will be.
So would it be too much to ask Di Canio to state that he is NOT an anti-Semite? Shouldn't be too big a problem should it?
Why are you so desparate to defend the indefensible, particularly when this issue could be resolved very quickly and easily by Di Canio himself.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:54:43
But your maths is maths, not math.

Is it? I was never any good at maths (Or math).


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: limpwrist on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:55:18
Is this shit still going on? He's a talented football manager not a local politician of any importance.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:55:21
Was that before or after he saluted the banner that read "Team of Blacks. Crowd of Jews" aimed at Roma?

After


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:56:33

Why are you so desparate to defend the indefensible,

Is fascism really indefensible?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:56:39
After
And you are happy with that sort of hypocrisy?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:58:05
This is exactly how I feel, and I'm damned if I'm going to get dragged into an argument about the relative merits of fascism. I mean, just look at some of the stuff you apologists have found yourselves writing. Really?

Apologist for fascism? Not really.

Being able to see that issues aren't always cut and dried? Absolutely.

Britain has been guilty of some truly heinous crimes in the past, does that mean that anyone who finds areas to admire during the period of Empire a warmongering racist?

Fucking pathetic argument.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 16:59:54
Dorset

you have it stuck on your mind that he is a racist and the devil incarnate and are clearly unwilling to keep an open mind to the contrary, in spite of the fact the man has made public statements to say he isn't what you say he is.

Bllela;ehaegyea


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:01:56
Dorset

you have it stuck on your mind that he is a racist and the devil incarnate and are clearly unwilling to keep an open mind to the contrary, in spite of the fact the man has made public statements to say he isn't what you say he is.

Bllela;ehaegyea
BR, we can argue round and round forever and a day. The simplest soluton is for DI Canio to answer one simple question. Then it all goes away. Interestingly I have already contacted the club in this regard and had no reply.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: REDBUCK on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:03:57
I suspect Dorset that even if he made a statement you may not believe him.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:05:04
I suspect Dorset that even if he made a statement you may not believe him.

And he'd still be a fascist


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:05:59
I suspect Dorset that even if he made a statement you may not believe him.
Why would I disbelieve him? If he says qutie openly he has no anti-Semitic views I would have no reason to question that. I doubt his politics NOT his integrity.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:08:01
My position is that the man has committed no crime.

Until that changes, I will back him.

I'm not going to add to this argument anymore, it's fucking pointless.

Roll on August.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: woolster on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:09:09
 :zzz: :zzz: :headhurts: :headhurts: :headhurts:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:11:58
My position is that the man has committed no crime.
Except, of course, that it IS a crime to promote nazism in Italy. Some might argue the toss but I think the fascist salute is sailing pretty close to the wind.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:15:49
Except, of course, that it IS a crime to promote nazism in Italy. Some might argue the toss but I think the fascist salute is sailing pretty close to the wind.

He wasn't prosecuted. If he can do that in front of 1000's, I suggest that the Italian judiciary have a different view of his actions than you.

But, of course, you're right and they're all wrong.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:17:29
Bore off Dorset


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:19:35
Apologist for fascism? Not really.

Being able to see that issues aren't always cut and dried? Absolutely.

Britain has been guilty of some truly heinous crimes in the past, does that mean that anyone who finds areas to admire during the period of Empire a warmongering racist?

Fucking pathetic argument.
Listen Hertha, like lots of people on here, I don't think it's very interesting or relevant to get into a discussion about why fascism isn't all bad, but I'll just say you're heading down a very slippery path if you try to indulge in the moral equivalency argument that everywhere's got things to be ashamed of, so we shouldn't take a stance on anything, even fascism.

I'd have more respect for the view that that's politics, and this is football. It's not my view, but it's more tenable than your argument.

I'll shut up for now if you will.  :mwah:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:22:43
Why would I disbelieve him? If he says qutie openly he has no anti-Semitic views I would have no reason to question that. I doubt his politics NOT his integrity.
So if he says he's not anti semitic will that make everything better or will it lead on to "are you anti blacks", "are you anti homosexual", "are you anti gypsy" - actually forget the last one as Prutton was shown the door quick enough.
One question will lead to another and the best thing he can do is shut the fuck up and concentrate on managing STFC - which he appears to be doing. 


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:26:07
Listen Hertha, like lots of people on here, I don't think it's very interesting or relevant to get into a discussion about why fascism isn't all bad, but I'll just say you're heading down a very slippery path if you try to indulge in the moral equivalency argument that everywhere's got things to be ashamed of, so we shouldn't take a stance on anything, even fascism.

I'd have more respect for the view that that's politics, and this is football. It's not my view, but it's more tenable than your argument.

I'll shut up for now if you will.  :mwah:

Take a stance against fascism by all means. Hang someone out to dry for having views that don't match my own? No way. This is about a man for fucksake. What has he actually done that is so despicable? He had the courage (Or stupidity) to voice opinions that are not universally liked. Apart from that (And some salutes that were distasteful) he's done nothing wrong.

For that he should be hounded out of managing a football club? Give me a break.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 17:26:44
I'll shut up for now.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 18:55:11
Other than criminal activity, the only time it becomes relevant for me is if his views started to influence his management of STFC. For example, if Lecs and Manks were left on the basis of being black.

Trying to second guess what the man thinks and how he interprets what fascism is, well that's as pointless as a BA in English literature.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 19:13:04
Except, of course, that it IS a crime to promote nazism in Italy. Some might argue the toss but I think the fascist salute is sailing pretty close to the wind.

Take it he has he got big arms then.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 20:32:16
So he is racist then aswell as a homophobe? Someone should really tell his ghananian buisiness partner and his best friend who funnily enough is erm gay.

These two can look past his political beliefs as they obviously know the man and the fact they are obviously happy to be around him maybe tells us a bit more about him than a load of men or women bickering on a forum.

It's fucking boring now and by that i mean both sides of the argument


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 20:42:21
Nobody has said he is racist, in fact he himself said he isn't.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Huwwy on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 20:46:57

It's fucking boring now and by that i mean both sides of the argument
:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 20:47:33
When Herthab mentioned on page 23 that he wasn't racist Dorset wanted to know why dicanio hasn't publicly came out and said that.I was just pointing out who his 2 closest friends were.

I'm not going to add anymore as i will end up as guilty as the rest.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 20:50:30
When Herthab mentioned on page 23 that he wasn't racist Dorset wanted to know why dicanio hasn't publicly came out and said that.



Are you trolling again?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 20:55:26
Um no


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 20:58:35
OK, my bad.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 20:59:40
But I agree anyway

Dorset does seem to be rather selective in what he listens to.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 11:21:33
Di Canio is our new manager, some can't support the club because of that!

See you back in the future when you can

Some want to support the club

Look forward to 2011/12.

Can we just leave it at that now?  He's in the job, nobody is gonna change that, the club will go on with or without your support

_______________________________________________________________________________

Can that be the line that's drawn under it now?  Somehow I doubt it.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: walrus on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 11:31:01
Aren't we all getting a little self-righteous?  It's bloody football, not the House of Commons.  Support the team, support the manager, back the club.  His political views don't affect his ability to manage, and don't we live in a world of free speech?  He's been overly honest and contraversial, but isn't that one of the reasons we're excited by him as manager.  You take the rough with the smooth, maybe some are just looking for an excuse not to support the club after a diabolical season?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 11:36:28
If he makes us wear black shirts and plays everyone on the right wing, then i'll be concerned.
Until then, i'm chuffed he's our new gaffer.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 14:12:11
Aren't we all getting a little self-righteous?  It's bloody football, not the House of Commons.  Support the team, support the manager, back the club.  His political views don't affect his ability to manage, and don't we live in a world of free speech?  He's been overly honest and contraversial, but isn't that one of the reasons we're excited by him as manager.  You take the rough with the smooth, maybe some are just looking for an excuse not to support the club after a diabolical season?

Exactly my thoughts.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: MaTaNzA on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 14:55:30
Aren't we all getting a little self-righteous?  It's bloody football, not the House of Commons.  Support the team, support the manager, back the club.  His political views don't affect his ability to manage, and don't we live in a world of free speech?  He's been overly honest and contraversial, but isn't that one of the reasons we're excited by him as manager.  You take the rough with the smooth, maybe some are just looking for an excuse not to support the club after a diabolical season?

Exactly!! I've been a supporter for about 15 years now and i've never seen such excitement from an appointment of a manager. Personally, i grew up watching this man (dad is a hammers supporter) and i've never seen someone play with so much passion. I hope he does well in management! It's infectious and i just want the transfer window to open and for the season to start!!!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 18:14:50
i just want the transfer window to open and for the season to start!!!

I'm pretty sure we could effectively sign players now in terms of getting them to sign some kind of agreement that they will sign for us on the 1st July.

That's what we did with Rose and Prutton.....unfortunately (in hindsight)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 18:17:50
This is the time we're meant to follow the cricket as not much happens in the lower league football world. Pffft footballers going on holiday. Wasters.

Then there's one or two weeks when it goes crazy.

We haven't even got a pre-season schedule yet.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Weasel on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 18:35:12
If he makes us wear black shirts and plays everyone on the right wing, then i'll be concerned.
Until then, i'm chuffed he's our new gaffer.

You know the away kit is going to be black, right?

Or at least it was going to be a couple of weeks ago. I really hope they haven't changed their mind, it'll look ace.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 19:26:26
But I agree anyway
Dorset does seem to be rather selective in what he listens to.
Racism and anti-semitism are subtly different. I am fully aware of Di Canio's comments about black players but my direct question is about anti-semitism. The fact remains that he has refused to speak out against the persectution of the Jews even when given very public opportunities to do so. I refer you again to Das Bild who ran a very interesting story on this a while ago.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 19:41:27
This is fucking ridiculous , he's been accused of being a racist, which he has denied. You want him to be asked if he supports anti-semitism, he could be asked and say no. Then what? Are you homophobic?  Where would this stop?

From what I understand Italian Facism is much less associated with anti-semitism than the Germans were. Why the witch-hunt on this issue with Di Canio? There's never been any suggestion that he is anti-semitic before.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 19:44:16
Dorset Red is on a crusade.

Best we all leave him to it....


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 19:44:39
Dorset.

I dont like racism in fact i dont like any kind of shite like that,even straight forward bullying makes me angry.
Now lets say my boss was a facist,lets say he was racist then i wouldn't like him at all,would i leave my job in the current climate,have to say probably not.
I equate the managers job at Swindon Town to the managers/boss's job at work,i might not like them for there personal views but if they get the job done than i will be happy,maybe not as happy as the perfect boss or manager,but suitably happy in a situation that i do not have any control over.
I applaud the people who have made a stand,it is there views and fair play,but how far do you go....leave your job,dont talk to a doctor because of his views even though he may save your childs life.
We all have our views and it took me a long time to realise that you cant always have the perfect scenario.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 19:46:19
dorset red just bores me to death.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 19:53:17
I'm giving back my season ticket until  Di Canio says he hates Fred West, Jeffery Dahmer and Ted Bundy. I mean do we REALLY know he doesn't approve  of serial killers. Really.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 20:01:49
dorset red just bores me to death.

This


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arch Stanton on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 20:13:10
Christ, is this argument still going on?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Wiggler on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 20:19:16
I'm convinced this issue only has the potential to ever exist on the internet.

A couple of voices repeating the same point over and over again turns into a 'discussion thread'

If dorset red exists in real life he would be sat in the corner of the pub agreeing with himself. :beers:

Not saying it isn't a valid point he has, I don't agree with it personally, but realisically it represents the views of probably 0.005% of our paying customers. It's a non issue get over it and move on.
 :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, May 26, 2011, 20:20:25
Racism and anti-semitism are subtly different. I am fully aware of Di Canio's comments about black players but my direct question is about anti-semitism. The fact remains that he has refused to speak out against the persectution of the Jews even when given very public opportunities to do so. I refer you again to Das Bild who ran a very interesting story on this a while ago.

It may be worth noting that Das Bild is the German newspaper equivalent of the Sun.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: walrus on Friday, May 27, 2011, 10:56:28
Racism and anti-semitism are subtly different. I am fully aware of Di Canio's comments about black players but my direct question is about anti-semitism. The fact remains that he has refused to speak out against the persectution of the Jews even when given very public opportunities to do so. I refer you again to Das Bild who ran a very interesting story on this a while ago.

Clown.  He is a football manager.  His opinions on the persecution of the Jews is entirely irrelevant.  It is also a extremely unfair he is even asked about this.

"So err Sir Alex, what do you think of the slave trade?"  Are these the sort of questions you'd want to see on MOTD?  I don't think we're worthy of your sort on this forum...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 27, 2011, 10:59:27
Agree entirely Dorset Red = complete burke


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: stfcinbmth on Friday, May 27, 2011, 11:16:29
I could change my nick to Dorset Red 2 if it helps. I have no interest what so ever in politics, what PdC does or does not believe in, is absolutely no concern of mine. What does concern me though is that his tenure at managing STFC is a great success. Can't wait to see how it goes, throughly excited


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, May 27, 2011, 11:44:15
I cant believe this issue is still being discussed, the same points have been raised/debated about 20 times on different topics.

Move on.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: walrus on Friday, May 27, 2011, 11:48:19
The real issue here is Andy King, yay or nay?

Get him on board as Chief Scout I say?  What's the little scamp to up to these days anyway?  He's the original loveable rogue.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Melksham Red on Friday, May 27, 2011, 11:50:09
I'm convinced this issue only has the potential to ever exist on the internet.

A couple of voices repeating the same point over and over again turns into a 'discussion thread'

If dorset red exists in real life he would be sat in the corner of the pub agreeing with himself. :beers:

Not saying it isn't a valid point he has, I don't agree with it personally, but realisically it represents the views of probably 0.005% of our paying customers. It's a non issue get over it and move on.
 :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak


Too true.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, May 27, 2011, 11:50:19
The real issue here is Andy King, yay or nay?

Get him on board as Chief Scout I say?  What's the little scamp to up to these days anyway?  He's the original loveable rogue.

If by 'loveable rougue' you mean 'bit of a cunt', then I agree 100%. He is a loveable rogue.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Friday, May 27, 2011, 11:50:52
The real issue here is Andy King, yay or nay?

Get him on board as Chief Scout I say?  What's the little scamp to up to these days anyway?  He's the original loveable rogue.

Long live the king!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, May 27, 2011, 11:51:34
The real issue here is Andy King, yay or nay?

Get him on board as Chief Scout I say?  What's the little scamp to up to these days anyway?  He's the original loveable rogue.

I think he's chief scout at Plymouth. He discovered that Noone lad that Brighton bought.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Phil_S on Friday, May 27, 2011, 13:49:46
The key question on Di Canio (if you are concerned with his politics) is what does he believe in & more importantly how does that affect his ability to do the job. If he is labelled a Fascist you should define what that means. The Stereotypical "Facsist" is seen as some jackbooted neaderthal thug prison camp guard type. It's now too commonly used as a "label" for the far left to try & embarrass their political opponent. (eg> Any one who talked about immigration 5 years ago was labelled by some as "Fascist").
For the record I belive that the far left is as bad as the far right. Who was worse Stalin or Hitler. I would suggest that they were as bad as each other.
I would welcome the view of someone with a knowledge of italian polictics which is famous for being very diverse & comprises the ultra left & the ultra right. What is the italian definition.
As I said earlier Di Canio can have any label you want to place on him, but the true test of the man is what he does. If his closest friends & associates include a gay man & a balck man I would suggest he is NOT a facsist as per the traditional (english) label. (he may be as per the italian definition)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: kaufman on Friday, May 27, 2011, 15:29:11
I laughed at this on facebook

Daniel Vowles you said it yourself racism and fascism have different definitions. That makes them different, not the same. Nice try at a wind up Oxford scum.
16 minutes ago

Alex Greenwood and @ daniel back to ur first comment where u mentiond run back to kassam? i fucking white u ignorant twat
15 minutes ago

Alex Greenwood jesus christ, politically they may have differences, i dont see ur argument in saying fascism is ok but racism isnt, does anyone who shows a fucking hitler salute belive in equal rights? cuz he aligns im self with fascism yet claims he is no racist, that makes no sence, and im from swindon mate, fucking plymouth road, oxford?
13 minutes ago

Daniel Vowles Kassam is still the name of the scums stadium isnt it?
13 minutes ago

Alex Greenwood i realy dont know mate what kassam is
12 minutes ago


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Friday, May 27, 2011, 15:34:43
Dv lives on


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 12:38:03
The key question on Di Canio (if you are concerned with his politics) is what does he believe in & more importantly how does that affect his ability to do the job. If he is labelled a Fascist you should define what that means. The Stereotypical "Facsist" is seen as some jackbooted neaderthal thug prison camp guard type. ...
I'm not talking about the stereotypical type of fascist you mention. I am talking about Di Canio as a supporter of the fascist movement in Italy. Politics in Italy is indeed very diverse and covers a very wide spectrum. The fascists are on the far right of that spectrum and many elements within the fascist movement express racist, homophobic and anti-semitic views.
Di Canio has gone on record and talked about  not having any problem with black players (which is big of him...not) but he has refused point-blank to talk about the fascist movement's position on anti-semitism.
My reason for raising this issue in the very first instance is the fact that I have Jewish friends who are Town supporters. They now feel that they are unable to go to Town games until they hear what Di Caio's views are on this particular issue. I agree with them.

Those people who are tagging onto the end of the thread insulting me for going on and on about it have either not read or understaood what the point of the argument is.

It's a simple matter of customer choice. Do you buy a product from a company you feel is unethical? For somepeople the answer is no (although I accept many others don't give a shit).
If you WANT to buy the product but you are unsure about the ethics of the company, is it unreasonable to ask the question? I don't think so.

The only person who can really resolvthis argument is Di Canio himself and I (and others like me) will continue to ask the question until he answers it.
Incidentally, I have had no reply from the club to my initial communication which is highly unusual. In the past when I have contacted them (which hasn't terribly often in the last 35 years) they have always replied very promptly.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 12:47:07
Heavens to Betsy


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 12:55:22
Ffs is this still going on.

DR we know you dont like di canio, its getting fucking boring


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Wiggler on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 13:27:12
hang on he's best friends with a black man and his business partner is a gay man, which doesn't fit too well with the evil fascist argument, so because he hasn't hired a jew as his assistant DR says he must be an anti semitic? :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Come on...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ironside on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 14:08:34
What a fucking moron


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: ron dodgers on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 14:40:10
oh the sweet iron(side)y of it


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: @MacPhlea on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 14:59:20
Ffs is this still going on.

DR we know you dont like di canio, its getting fucking boring

Mods, can we lock this thread and archive it?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 15:00:40
I say keep this thread.

Keep all this nonsense in one place.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 15:04:40
if people didn't keep posting it would stop innit


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: @MacPhlea on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 15:05:13
I say keep this thread.

Keep all this nonsense in one place.

Fair point, perhaps we should have a section called "The Latrine" into which threads of this nature should go


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: carbonwhite on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 15:06:44
 :crash:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: limpwrist on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:23:23
if people didn't keep posting it would stop innit
Fully agree with arriba.
Interesting to see Dorset Red had a really sympathetic reception from thisis. Who would of thought thisis was a hot bed of liberal radacalism?
I'd like to see Pericard play every minute of next season, that'll prove PDC is colour blind.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Weasel on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:27:40
I'd like to see Pericard play every minute of next season, that'll prove PDC is colour blind.

I'd prefer him to make that point using someone better at football if that's at all possible please.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:29:00
I'd prefer him to make that point using someone better at football if that's at all possible please.

Lenny Henry?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: limpwrist on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:30:06
Lenny Henry?
Charlie Henry?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Weasel on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:32:06
Lenny Henry?
;D Deal.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:32:15
Fully agree with arriba.
Interesting to see Dorset Red had a really sympathetic reception from thisis. Who would of thought thisis was a hot bed of liberal radacalism?
I'd like to see Pericard play every minute of next season, that'll prove PDC is colour blind.

This forum with a few notable exceptions most of whom have given up posting has always leaned to the right in political terms...so hardly a surprise that many want to suppress Dorset's freedom of speech.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:33:14
Be quiet Reg.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:41:03
I can only applaud the stance the club and Di Canio have taken over this. They are quite rightly refusing to be drawn in to debates on politic beliefs, which have no place in football. Until Di Canio does or says something that makes his political beliefs an issue everyone else should take the same stance.

I don't see the relevance of anything that has happened in Italy either, it's a different country with a different culture and totally different politics of which the vast majority of us have absolutely no understanding. There was never any issues when he played in England before and there is nothing to suggest there will be this time.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:42:07
Fully agree with arriba.
Interesting to see Dorset Red had a really sympathetic reception from thisis. Who would of thought thisis was a hot bed of liberal radacalism?
I'd like to see Pericard play every minute of next season, that'll prove PDC is colour blind.
How fucking thick are you!!!!? It has NOTHING TO DO WITH COLOUR. READ THE FUCKING THREAD YOU ARSEWIPE


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:43:31
There was never any issues when he played in England before and there is nothing to suggest there will be this time.
Shows what you know you twat! You never heard of the Hammers against fascism group then? Getting a fucking education!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:44:35
Until Di Canio does or says something that makes his political beliefs an issue everyone else should take the same stance.
Nazi salutes on the pitch? Does that count?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:45:36
Ffs


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Weasel on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:47:04
You're going to make yourself poorly with all that anger fella.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:48:27
Other than deciding against going to watch Swindon at home, what else will you do Dorset? I'm not having a go.

We've had over a week... I've not heard of any protests at the County Ground over this appointment. Elsewhere, Danny Wilson's biggest crime is that he's an ex-Owl and hundreds flock to Bramall Lane to protest. Sure, they're a bigger club but this is surely a far serious 'crime', if indeed there is any crime (as his views have nothing to do with football).


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:49:29
Shows what you know you twat! You never heard of the Hammers against fascism group then? Getting a fucking education!

I personally have never heard of the hammers against fascism group.

Google doesnt really fill in the blanks either. Are they even real?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:49:39
Shows what you know you twat! You never heard of the Hammers against fascism group then? Getting a fucking education!

You're funny. I guess you're trying to suggest I educate myself more, yet you can't even construct the sentence properly.

Nazi salutes on the pitch? Does that count?

Even funnier. You suggest I should learn more about it, yet you describe the salute as a Nazi salute when it is a Fascist salute and going back further a Roman salute. Di Canio has made it very clear he uses it as a Roman salute and it has no political connotations.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:50:54
I personally have never heard of the hammers against fascism group.

Google doesnt really fill in the blanks either. Are they even real?


I presume it is a group along the same lines as the Robins against Fascism group, a few people with nothing better to do.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 16:58:02
Maybe he means fascism against hammers group.

A movement using the symbolic communist hammer and sickle as its motto.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:24:51
It don't give in, it will repeat, it will repeat, it will.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:43:56
I personally have never heard of the hammers against fascism group.

Google doesnt really fill in the blanks either. Are they even real?

Ah well, if it ain't on google it can't exist. Is that what you're saying? Sheesh!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:44:21
Maybe he means fascism against hammers group.

A movement using the symbolic communist hammer and sickle as its motto.
No sickle. Just two hammers on the flag.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:44:59
it has no political connotations.
Really? You are even more stupid than I thought


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:45:46
You're funny. I guess you're trying to suggest I educate myself more, yet you can't even construct the sentence properly.
Just trying to write in language you might understand.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:47:03
I presume it is a group along the same lines as the Robins against Fascism group, a few people with nothing better to do.
Nope. Just a few people who understood morality and appreciated that some things in life are more important than football.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:47:10
Maybe hammerstein against fascism then?

A broadway musical about the life and times of Mussolini?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:48:28
It don't give in, it will repeat, it will repeat, it will.
It will; and again, and again, and again, until you are even more sick of it than you are already


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:48:53
Maybe hammerstein against fascism then?

A broadway musical about the life and times of Mussolini?
soapy tit wank! :clap:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:50:09
Fascism against stammers.

A fascist run agenda against people with speech impediments.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:51:36
Maybe hammerstein against fascism then?

A broadway musical about the life and times of Mussolini?
Or a heavy metal opera Rammstein against racism


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:54:16
Ah well, if it ain't on google it can't exist. Is that what you're saying? Sheesh!

No, that isnt what I was saying in the slightest but I think you know that, you just want to be an arse for the sake of being an arse.

You implied that another member was uneducated for not having heard of this group. I also hadnt heard of this group so thought I'd read up on them.

From what I remember during his time at West Ham Di Canio was loved by all and his politics didnt ever get a mention.

I tried to read up on this group and google gave me nothing. I cant educated myself on something I cant find any information on.

That if they are even for real, if you are even for real.

Where do I find information on this mythical group?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:59:01
On Facebook of course with 36 members 

[url width=200 height=200]http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50509_355176242425_5486587_n.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 17:59:44
dorset,many respect your opinion and stance but your point has been made.
most people don't give a shit what di canio's political views are.nothing you say is gonna change that.
i suggest you post about some of the other 80% bollocks on here.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 18:05:42
On Facebook of course with 36 members 

[url width=200 height=200]http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50509_355176242425_5486587_n.jpg[/url]

More fool me.

I cant believe they dont teach this in school.

Fuck all do with Di Canio though.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: jonah on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 18:06:04
Quote
Or a heavy metal opera Rammstein against racism

Out of interest, Rammstein have a song called "Links 2 3 4" - which is about being lefties..... I think they recorded it in response to being labelled fascist! Mind you some of their artwork could be misinterpreted..

J


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 18:08:40
Out of interest, Rammstein have a song called "Links 2 3 4" - which is about being lefties..... I think they recorded it in response to being labelled fascist! Mind you some of their artwork could be misinterpreted..

J

Regardless of politics it is a great record,with great base guitar work displayed.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: jonah on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 18:12:59
Quote
Regardless of politics it is a great record,with great base guitar work displayed.

Amen. Top band!



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 21:26:47
Other than deciding against going to watch Swindon at home, what else will you do Dorset? I'm not having a go.
I can just vote with my feet and keep shouting. Anything else would be pretty pointless.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 21:32:39
I can just vote with my feet and keep shouting. Anything else would be pretty pointless.

This surprises me. If you choose to continue down the keyboard warrior road then you're no different to the rest of us who don't like fascism yet choose to support Swindon Town.

If people are passionately against this decision then I say make noise beyond the internet!

I personally think that most people, whether their political beliefs are right, left or centre, can see that his political thoughts have nothing to with football.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bumblebee on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 21:48:07
30 pages of this drivel  :suicide:

Left, right, somewhere in between... I dont really give a monkeys! Did I accidentally stumble on to a politics forum?  I wonder if on some extreme politics forum somewhere, someone is discussing who we will be retaining from the remaining out of contracts players?

Could a moderator please set up a 'Politics and other boring non football related waffle' section please?

If you care that much about Di Canio or anyone else's political views, please express them to people who actually care - 99.9% of those reading this forum really don't.  :bye:

Sorry to be harsh, I know everyone has a right to have their own opinion and views, funnily enough I have several of my own about non football related matters (as we all do), but I dont snivel on about them on this forum which is intended to be about Swindon Town FC, it isnt the place for it.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 21:51:59
The
... you're no different to the rest of us who don't like fascism yet choose to support Swindon Town.
Except, I have a town-supporting friend whose family fled Central europe due to oppression at the hands of both fascists and communists. Defenceless relatives died at the hands of fascists and communists. It is easy for those on this forum who have no experience of anti-semitism to dismiss Di Canio's politics as irrelevant but should my friend, and those of us who know her, take the same attitude?
All I am asking for is a statement from the club and/or Mr Di Canio that he does not support anti-semitism? Is that really too much to ask? Is it wholly unreasonable?
It was Di Canio himself who brought his politics onto the football field so he should be prepared to answer questions when they are asked.
We have thought long and hard about what to do when the season gets under way and haven't dismissed the possibility of protesting outside the ground. It would be a very small protest and ultimately futile I suspect. I also fully expect to get abuse from the vast majority of Town fans, but what else is there we could do?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bumblebee on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 21:54:39
...but what else is there we could do?

Counselling...preferrably 'off line'. :cry:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 21:57:45
You're not going to get an official statement from the club by having a go at people on TEF. I'm stunned that somebody who has friends who have suffered are still willing to watch a football club away from home despite being managed by a fascist. That's very hypocritical.

Get out of Dorset and PROTEST MAN!

Isn't that what people do when they want to make a stand? Whether it's a group of 10 or 100... Show that you're unhappy and make some real noise, not words on a intenet forum which has a regular population in the low hundreds.

The internet has made people lazy.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 22:02:45
I have images of Dorset setting himself on fire at the County Ground now*


* This is not in any sense a suggestion.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bumblebee on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 22:05:05
 :clap: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 22:39:28
Dorset - just fuck off. We know your opinion now just fucking do one. Go to the next BNP or EDL march and shout as much as you fucking want. Go and watch the Histroy Channel and shout some bile at Hitler and when the Jews come on you can even clap or knock one out but just shut the fuck up.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: limpwrist on Saturday, May 28, 2011, 23:20:19
How fucking thick are you!!!!? It has NOTHING TO DO WITH COLOUR. READ THE FUCKING THREAD YOU ARSEWIPE
I had to smile when I read this.  I sit here in the comfort of my living room full to the brim with Carling. Comfortable in the knowledge that it took my grandparents and there grandparents centuries to bring the rich and wealthy of this country into line.
It used to shake me to the bone that my contemparies didn't give a flyinf fuck about what went on before we got here.
Not any more for me. I can't change the world and neither can you and your fellow absentees.
You can do a runner, you can shout from the roof tops but at the end of the day, the only thing that matters to the majority of PAYING FANS (for they're the ones that matter) is that the Swindon manager, whoever he is brings a little success our way because Lord we need it.
You sir are a bore but if by March we're not in the top 7, I'll join you in the Fachist (SP) out.
Reg if you think this site leans to the right because of Ironside, Crispy and yes maybe me? Then you are a real arse.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 00:08:26
Just had a big shit.

Top banana


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Talk Talk on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 00:48:44
Dorset...

Please. From someone who used to make a complete knob of himself on here (and yes, that was bad cider in those days...not that that is an excuse).

Leave it alone mate. Just calm down. Take four thousand, two hundred and sixteen steps backwards and think about what you sound like.

99.9999% of Town fans probably don't give a monkey's uncle what political persuasion PdC is. I certainly don't. You might want to listen to the very perceptive and intelligent interview that Jeremy Wray gave on unveiling day. They didn't ask him about it. Or his thoughts on gays, transsexuals, butch lesbians, black white, yellow or green people, catholics, Lutherans, Rapturists (sp?), people from the planet Zog or Betelgeuse.

Why? Because it really doesn't matter my friend. It is irrelevant. He's managing a fucking football team, not starting the Fourth Reich in Swindon.

Anyway - we have (supposedly) freedom of speech and freedom of association in this country. So do you. You can spout your anti-fascist wailings as much as he can bang on about Mussolini and his love of the writings of any right wing philosophers if he wants. Just because you don't like it doesn't make you right.

Wounded lefties always want to play the outrage card. It makes me sick to be honest. Stalin killed millions of his own people just like Hitler killed millions of another group of people that he didn't like. Left and right meet at the 360 degrees of the political circle.

All politics is fucked up in my eyes. Left, right, centre. Anybody that wants power over others has to be sick and corrupt.

So calm down, chill out and drink beer like the rest of us. Put it to one side and get on the rollercoaster of 2011/12. You're a Town fan. Behave like one.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 04:38:06
Dorset...

Please. From someone who used to make a complete knob of himself on here (and yes, that was bad cider in those days...not that that is an excuse).

Leave it alone mate. Just calm down. Take four thousand, two hundred and sixteen steps backwards and think about what you sound like.

99.9999% of Town fans probably don't give a monkey's uncle what political persuasion PdC is. I certainly don't. You might want to listen to the very perceptive and intelligent interview that Jeremy Wray gave on unveiling day. They didn't ask him about it. Or his thoughts on gays, transsexuals, butch lesbians, black white, yellow or green people, catholics, Lutherans, Rapturists (sp?), people from the planet Zog or Betelgeuse.

Why? Because it really doesn't matter my friend. It is irrelevant. He's managing a fucking football team, not starting the Fourth Reich in Swindon.

Anyway - we have (supposedly) freedom of speech and freedom of association in this country. So do you. You can spout your anti-fascist wailings as much as he can bang on about Mussolini and his love of the writings of any right wing philosophers if he wants. Just because you don't like it doesn't make you right.

Wounded lefties always want to play the outrage card. It makes me sick to be honest. Stalin killed millions of his own people just like Hitler killed millions of another group of people that he didn't like. Left and right meet at the 360 degrees of the political circle.

All politics is fucked up in my eyes. Left, right, centre. Anybody that wants power over others has to be sick and corrupt.

So calm down, chill out and drink beer like the rest of us. Put it to one side and get on the rollercoaster of 2011/12. You're a Town fan. Behave like one.
Is the sky going to fall in?

I agree with Talk Talk!

(I never thought I'd ever say that).


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 06:51:17
It will; and again, and again, and again, until you are even more sick of it than you are already

And my central theme, barks like a dog in me,
The modern idiot is here and plain to see.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 09:04:28
Dorset...

Please. From someone who used to make a complete knob of himself on here (and yes, that was bad cider in those days...not that that is an excuse).

Leave it alone mate. Just calm down. Take four thousand, two hundred and sixteen steps backwards and think about what you sound like.

99.9999% of Town fans probably don't give a monkey's uncle what political persuasion PdC is. I certainly don't. You might want to listen to the very perceptive and intelligent interview that Jeremy Wray gave on unveiling day. They didn't ask him about it. Or his thoughts on gays, transsexuals, butch lesbians, black white, yellow or green people, catholics, Lutherans, Rapturists (sp?), people from the planet Zog or Betelgeuse.

Why? Because it really doesn't matter my friend. It is irrelevant. He's managing a fucking football team, not starting the Fourth Reich in Swindon.

Anyway - we have (supposedly) freedom of speech and freedom of association in this country. So do you. You can spout your anti-fascist wailings as much as he can bang on about Mussolini and his love of the writings of any right wing philosophers if he wants. Just because you don't like it doesn't make you right.

Wounded lefties always want to play the outrage card. It makes me sick to be honest. Stalin killed millions of his own people just like Hitler killed millions of another group of people that he didn't like. Left and right meet at the 360 degrees of the political circle.

All politics is fucked up in my eyes. Left, right, centre. Anybody that wants power over others has to be sick and corrupt.

So calm down, chill out and drink beer like the rest of us. Put it to one side and get on the rollercoaster of 2011/12. You're a Town fan. Behave like one.

Good post. :clap:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 10:44:54
Fucking great post Talk Talk. Hit, nail, head.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 12:54:29
Once the fixtures are released next month, I'll start planning games I can get to home and away. This past week I was pleased to read that Prutton had been shipped out and LJF was offered a new contract. I'm vehemently anti-fascist and would prefer Di Canio had nothing to do with STFC but the club was here long before Di Canio arrived and will be here long after Di Canio departs. I'm not comfortable with him being our manager and I doubt I ever will be, I have a nagging thought at the back of my head that suffixes everything positive I can think about him with 'but he's a fascist'.

I have friends who have religious beliefs that I think absurd. I have friends who are as apolitical as possible. I have friends who have appalling taste in music. I judge them on their actions and the people that they are so it's entirely hypocritical of me to write him off before he opened his mouth. I'm still torn but it was slightly childish of me to not give him a chance. So I will. I'm fickle.

Needless to say, the first sign of a 'Roman' salute or Di Canio flexing his tattoos in the dugout and that is me done and dusted.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 13:09:02
Good interview in the Football Paper today.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: A Gent Orange on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 13:37:51
Once the fixtures are released next month, I'll start planning games I can get to home and away. This past week I was pleased to read that Prutton had been shipped out and LJF was offered a new contract. I'm vehemently anti-fascist and would prefer Di Canio had nothing to do with STFC but the club was here long before Di Canio arrived and will be here long after Di Canio departs. I'm not comfortable with him being our manager and I doubt I ever will be, I have a nagging thought at the back of my head that suffixes everything positive I can think about him with 'but he's a fascist'.

I have friends who have religious beliefs that I think absurd. I have friends who are as apolitical as possible. I have friends who have appalling taste in music. I judge them on their actions and the people that they are so it's entirely hypocritical of me to write him off before he opened his mouth. I'm still torn but it was slightly childish of me to not give him a chance. So I will. I'm fickle.

Needless to say, the first sign of a 'Roman' salute or Di Canio flexing his tattoos in the dugout and that is me done and dusted.

I'm with you on all of that -bar the LJF bit.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: oakleigh2010 on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 14:05:56
I see Dorset has been spouting his polemic on the thisisstfc forum also. He is so fucking boring.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 14:23:37
Once the fixtures are released next month, I'll start planning games I can get to home and away. This past week I was pleased to read that Prutton had been shipped out and LJF was offered a new contract. I'm vehemently anti-fascist and would prefer Di Canio had nothing to do with STFC but the club was here long before Di Canio arrived and will be here long after Di Canio departs. I'm not comfortable with him being our manager and I doubt I ever will be, I have a nagging thought at the back of my head that suffixes everything positive I can think about him with 'but he's a fascist'.

I have friends who have religious beliefs that I think absurd. I have friends who are as apolitical as possible. I have friends who have appalling taste in music. I judge them on their actions and the people that they are so it's entirely hypocritical of me to write him off before he opened his mouth. I'm still torn but it was slightly childish of me to not give him a chance. So I will. I'm fickle.

Needless to say, the first sign of a 'Roman' salute or Di Canio flexing his tattoos in the dugout and that is me done and dusted.

My sentiments exactly.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 18:26:37
Once the fixtures are released next month, I'll start planning games I can get to home and away. This past week I was pleased to read that Prutton had been shipped out and LJF was offered a new contract. I'm vehemently anti-fascist and would prefer Di Canio had nothing to do with STFC but the club was here long before Di Canio arrived and will be here long after Di Canio departs. I'm not comfortable with him being our manager and I doubt I ever will be, I have a nagging thought at the back of my head that suffixes everything positive I can think about him with 'but he's a fascist'.

I have friends who have religious beliefs that I think absurd. I have friends who are as apolitical as possible. I have friends who have appalling taste in music. I judge them on their actions and the people that they are so it's entirely hypocritical of me to write him off before he opened his mouth. I'm still torn but it was slightly childish of me to not give him a chance. So I will. I'm fickle.

Needless to say, the first sign of a 'Roman' salute or Di Canio flexing his tattoos in the dugout and that is me done and dusted.
Good post. I am with you on 99% of what you say, BUT the Jewish thing is a HUGE issue for me and the friends I am in support of.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 18:29:17
Dorset...

Please. From someone who used to make a complete knob of himself on here (and yes, that was bad cider in those days...not that that is an excuse).

Leave it alone mate. Just calm down. Take four thousand, two hundred and sixteen steps backwards and think about what you sound like.
Do I sound cross? Good! Do I sound like a twat? Yes I hear you all scream ( ;)), but I will never appease a fascist. If that means I am unlike 99% of other Town fans, then long may it continue.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 18:30:46
except at away games?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 18:34:27
I have decided i won't be attending any games anymore at the county ground. My Great grandad was german and germans and ukraines were held as pow at the county ground and i am disgusted my club can be associated with that sort of thing.

I'm making a stand


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 18:37:12
I have decided i won't be attending any games anymore at the county ground. My Great grandad was german and germans and ukraines were held as pow at the county ground and i am disgusted my club can be associated with that sort of thing.

I'm making a stand
Oh I just can't help rising to the bait. I suspect all those held at the CG were combatants and I don't think anybody was murdered at the County Ground so it is a little different methinks.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 18:39:01
except at away games?
By only attending away league games I wont be putting any money into STFC's coffers and, therefore, won't be contributing (no matter how insignificantly) to the payment of Di Canio's salary. Quite simple really.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 18:43:04
Oh I just can't help rising to the bait. I suspect all those held at the CG were combatants and I don't think anybody was murdered at the County Ground so it is a little different methinks.
and here we have it. I suspect and think di canio does not wish death upon all jews and gays and blacks. There is no right or wrong answer in this argument there is only peoples personal opinions. Maybe we should all start respecting eachothers opinions?

Not directed straight at you DR


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 18:47:51
I honestly cannot see how supporting your club at home equates to appeasing fascism.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Talk Talk on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 20:15:26
Do I sound cross? Good! Do I sound like a twat? Yes I hear you all scream ( ;)), but I will never appease a fascist. If that means I am unlike 99% of other Town fans, then long may it continue.

You only quoted the first few paragraphs of my post. Here's the rest:

99.9999% of Town fans probably don't give a monkey's uncle what political persuasion PdC is. I certainly don't. You might want to listen to the very perceptive and intelligent interview that Jeremy Wray gave on unveiling day. They didn't ask him about it. Or his thoughts on gays, transsexuals, butch lesbians, black white, yellow or green people, catholics, Lutherans, Rapturists (sp?), people from the planet Zog or Betelgeuse.

Why? Because it really doesn't matter my friend. It is irrelevant. He's managing a fucking football team, not starting the Fourth Reich in Swindon.

Anyway - we have (supposedly) freedom of speech and freedom of association in this country. So do you. You can spout your anti-fascist wailings as much as he can bang on about Mussolini and his love of the writings of any right wing philosophers if he wants. Just because you don't like it doesn't make you right.

Wounded lefties always want to play the outrage card. It makes me sick to be honest. Stalin killed millions of his own people just like Hitler killed millions of another group of people that he didn't like. Left and right meet at the 360 degrees of the political circle.

All politics is fucked up in my eyes. Left, right, centre. Anybody that wants power over others has to be sick and corrupt.

So calm down, chill out and drink beer like the rest of us. Put it to one side and get on the rollercoaster of 2011/12. You're a Town fan. Behave like one.

Response?

Btw, would you appease a Stalinist, a Marxist or a Trotskyist? And what does attending Town matches have to do with appeasement anyway? Apart from appeasing the manufacturers of the god awful burgers in the TE.




Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 20:17:33
Can't we talk about ghosts now instead?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 20:19:58
Dorset - just give it up. We accept you won't appease fascists - you've told us fuck knows how many times. We've got the point.
Actually, I'm going to stop supporting England. in 1938 the players gave the Nazi salute directly to Hitler, Goebeels, Hess etc. the stadium was draped in swatikas. If that wasn't appeasement I don't know what the fuck was.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: otanswell on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 20:24:44
By only attending away league games I wont be putting any money into STFC's coffers

Well you will because the club get a percentage of the gate receipts..


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 20:37:55
Dorset - just give it up. We accept you won't appease fascists - you've told us fuck knows how many times. We've got the point.
Actually, I'm going to stop supporting England. in 1938 the players gave the Nazi salute directly to Hitler, Goebeels, Hess etc. the stadium was draped in swatikas. If that wasn't appeasement I don't know what the fuck was.

TBF the players didn't want to do this, but were told by an FA Official that they must.

The FA Official had received his instructions from the Foreign Office, then being run by Neville Chamberlain's Tory appeasers.

 I've never liked Chamberlain since he scored against us at Field Mill in 85/86.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 20:46:50
Reg - I know but in my own stupid, futile, unintelligent way I was trying to point out that appeasement is nothing new - even if people didn't want to  do it. You're quite right the players were very angry about having to do this but then went out and won the game 6-3. The Germans annexed some Austrian players for the game as well. there is some good reading to be had about this game and the Olympic Games in Berlin in 1936.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 21:07:56
Can't we talk about ghosts now instead?
No such thing ;)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 21:11:16
You only quoted the first few paragraphs of my post. Here's the rest:

Response?
I would love to respond but I'll get told off for recycling the same old tosh. Just have a read through all my posts (if you have nothing better to do with your life) and you should find answers to all the points you have raised.

I think my position is now ABUNDANTLY clear to those who have been following this thread and I don't really need to go over it again. (I await the applause!)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 21:13:59
Well you will because the club get a percentage of the gate receipts..
I believe that's only for cup matches. If I'm wrong I may have to get a very tall ladder and look over the fence.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: axs on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 21:48:05
Your support will help the Team do better, this will lead to more cash for di canio for win payments. Stop looking for excuses, if you want to go, go, if you want to make a moral stand do it properly.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 21:53:11
I think axs just summed up a 33 page thread in two sentences.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: walrus on Sunday, May 29, 2011, 22:00:27
Maybe Dorset Red should form a breakaway club ala AFC Wimbledon?  I wouldn't be surprised if people linked with the club read this forum, and they must despair at some of the crap written on here.  Next we'll be bemoaning the colour of the kit or the Feng Shui of the County Ground...  I suppose if this is the most active topic on the forum, things can't be all bad considering the season we've just had.

It's a crying shame we're debating an irrelevance relating to political persuasions as opposed to the exciting potential of an untried manager and legend in the game.  I sometimes wonder if some of us are addicted to abject failure...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, May 30, 2011, 08:36:53
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....


abject failiure....



http://blog.usaseopros.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/homer-simpson-drooling.jpg

Can't get enough of that good stuff 8)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Monday, May 30, 2011, 08:54:56
Is pDc back yet? If he started work this morning he must have been here for at least 2 hours and we haven't signed anybody, let alone 5 new players.

More like a slowist if you ask me.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 30, 2011, 09:10:31
Buckle has left Torquay to go to Bristol Rovers.

Out of Di Canio and Buckle, I'd have probably gone with the latter believe it or not. Still, if he didn't apply for our managers position its a non issue. We weren't poaching managers.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, May 30, 2011, 09:14:10


Out of Di Canio and Buckle, I'd have probably gone with the latter believe it or not.

Same here :nod:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: nevillew on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 08:50:58
I have decided i won't be attending any games anymore at the county ground. My Great grandad was german and germans and ukraines were held as pow at the county ground and i am disgusted my club can be associated with that sort of thing.

I'm making a stand
Fair enough - will you be selling it to Oxford ?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: carbonwhite on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 11:00:32
I have decided i won't be attending any games anymore at the county ground. My Great grandad was german and germans and ukraines were held as pow at the county ground and i am disgusted my club can be associated with that sort of thing.

I'm making a stand
i thought it was italian pows kept at the CG?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 11:11:05
Well that just proves that dicanio is the bigger man here doesn't it.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 11:20:56
i thought it was italian pows kept at the CG?

It was mostly Italians at the CG and a lot of them never moved away and settled in the Beatrice Road to Manchester Road area.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: carbonwhite on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:00:00
It was mostly Italians at the CG and a lot of them never moved away and settled in the Beatrice Road to Manchester Road area.
thought so  :)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:12:09
They worked in the farmers fields during the day and were locked up at night. Regarded as very low risk and a lot of them were happy to be here. Some married local girls.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 15:32:54
Just been reading through this thread again. I think people are getting a little carried away.

Di Canio did do a Roman salute to Lazio fans on several occasions but to think he would in England is completely ludicrous. Did you ever see him do it at Celtic, Sheff Wed, West Ham or Charlton ???

He's a very passionate man and he grew up watching Lazio as one of their Ultras, living in a run down area of Rome. The salutes were stupid but he probably got caught up in the moment a little after stuffing Roma.

To say he's a racist is even more ludicrous.

I'm half way through his book at the minute, I recommend it.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 15:36:15
If he just does whatever his adoring fans do, will he pick up that annoying fast hand clapping shite from the DRS?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 15:38:59
I'm half way through his book at the minute, I recommend it.
Did you like the bit near the beginning when he's talking about sharing a bed with his older brother and feeling like it was his comfortable place. Sometimes he was so comfortable, instead of getting out of bed to use the toilet he would just piss the bed. I bet his brother loved him for that.

Is that really who we want as our manager, a serial bedwetter?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 15:44:29
Did you like the bit near the beginning when he's talking about sharing a bed with his older brother and feeling like it was his comfortable place. Sometimes he was so comfortable, instead of getting out of bed to use the toilet he would just piss the bed. I bet his brother loved him for that.

Is that really who we want as our manager, a serial bedwetter?

Yeah I did find that a little bizarre ! He said his brother didn't mind either, strange family !

Nasty injury when he was 19 too. Nearly lost his leg.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: spacey on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 15:50:08
Just been reading through this thread again. I think people are getting a little carried away.

Di Canio did do a Roman salute to Lazio fans on several occasions but to think he would in England is completely ludicrous. Did you ever see him do it at Celtic, Sheff Wed, West Ham or Charlton ???

He's a very passionate man and he grew up watching Lazio as one of their Ultras, living in a run down area of Rome. The salutes were stupid but he probably got caught up in the moment a little after stuffing Roma.

To say he's a racist is even more ludicrous.

I'm half way through his book at the minute, I recommend it.

Stop going on about it, Ralphy! He got caught up in the moment several times over a long period of time. Just let it go...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 16:00:50
hahaha.
i'm finding ralphys wank fests over di canio almost as annoying as dorset reds hatred of the man.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 16:35:28

To say he's a racist is even more ludicrous.

Read the thread again, but more carefully. I never said he was racist. I asked if he was anti-Semitic. (might have been in a different thread though, I get so confused these days)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 17:10:08
Read the thread again, but more carefully. I never said he was racist. I asked if he was anti-Semitic. (might have been in a different thread though, I get so confused these days)

Wind your neck in, Ralphy didn't say you said he was racist.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 17:17:19
Isn't anti-semitism a form of racism anyway?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 17:20:16
Isn't anti-semitism a form of racism anyway?

Pretty much yeah. Just some minor technicalities.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 17:50:25
[url width=375 height=500]http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/20081229NYDeathJuice.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 18:07:54
Good point well made Samdy.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 18:08:37
Good point well made Samdy.
:D




Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dorset Red on Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 18:09:35
Wind your neck in, Ralphy didn't say you said he was racist.
neck well and truly rewound


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: lambourn red on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 16:47:50
"Swindon Town fans can now order a customized home shirt, complete with Di Canio 10 on the back! Although the new boss has retired as a player he has been handed the number 10 shirt for the entirety of the 2011/12 season."

Never heard of any club giving the non playing manager a squad number.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 16:57:32
"Swindon Town fans can now order a customized home shirt, complete with Di Canio 10 on the back! Although the new boss has retired as a player he has been handed the number 10 shirt for the entirety of the 2011/12 season."

Never heard of any club giving the non playing manager a squad number.

Just a money spinner.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 17:04:48
Could be worse, we could've done a Reading who have their squad no. 13 as "Reading Fans".


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: @MacPhlea on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 17:04:57
Just a money spinner.
No shit sherlock!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: DV Canio on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 17:14:46
Apparently (could be rubbish) one of the first thing Di Canio asked about (along with the dvds of all our games) was what days we train. Anyway he was told the days we train and his response was.

what? only once a day?

That will soon change I think.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dazzza on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 17:18:04
How often do most Serie A players train per day?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 17:22:47
Just a money spinner.

One I don't really like. I know, I know £££££.

I wonder if people will get refunds if he buggers off? :)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Doore on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 17:24:04


I wonder if people will get refunds if he buggers off? :)

I think we all know the answer to that.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 18:04:35
Good on the club for making the most of a high profile manager.

Those that want the shirt will buy and those that don't won't.

If it generates a few extra quid for the club what's the problem?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: lambourn red on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 18:10:22
[url width=400 height=356]http://www.stfconlineshop.co.uk/shop/uploads/images_products_large/991.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: A Gent Orange on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 18:26:17
How often do most Serie A players train per day?

I seem to remember something that many do train twice a day - but it shouldn't be a surprise to him - after all I doubt Wendies or Harry's Hammers came back in the afternoon to do a tactical session.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 18:33:33
I watched something a while back about AC Milan training. They do 2 or 3 hours of ball work in the morning and then another 2 or 3 hours of fitness work in the afternoon.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 18:33:57
Good on the club for making the most of a high profile manager.

Those that want the shirt will buy and those that don't won't.

If it generates a few extra quid for the club what's the problem?

I haven't got a problem with it. I understand why they've done it and it make business sense. I suppose I'm just a romantic, I want to see the number 10 shirt on the pitch. Heck, we could sell well with a 25+ goalscorer wearing the jersey :)

Di Canio left English football 7 years ago. Perhaps I'm underestimating his popularity.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 18:38:33
I watched something a while back about AC Milan training. They do 2 or 3 hours of ball work in the morning and then another 2 or 3 hours of fitness work in the afternoon.

our players have been doing similar for years. not every day, but often weights etc is done after training.
they train,go to the club to eat, then fitness stuff in the afternoon.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 19:45:12
Apart from last year when they were all on twitter by 1pm and they don't start training til 10-10.30.

What i found shocking was wilson was only ever at training 2/3 days a week


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 20:38:11
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3596434/Paolo-Di-Canio-I-nearly-had-fist-fight-with-Harry.html


Didn't realise he had banned the families from joining the backroom staff for two months into next season.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dazzza on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 21:10:12
I though the backroom team were selected as they didn't have any immediate wags to bring with them.  A backroom full of monks.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 23:08:29
I though the backroom team were selected as they didn't have any immediate wags to bring with them.  A backroom full of monks.
You thought wrong.

An interesting decision - I suppose it's a good thing as long as the guys and their families are ok with it!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: [email protected] on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 00:14:57
He said in an interview when he was unveiled, that he didn't want them getting distracted from the task of getting themselves and the team ready for the new season, as the first couple of months are vital for building momentum.

The more in hear from him, the more impressed I am with what he has to say.  I just hope it translates into a successful team.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: @MacPhlea on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 06:52:23
He also said...

I spoke to the chairman I said I would like to have all players with two big b******s to make him a strong character.

I can imagine the look of shock on the interview panels faces when he came our with that one!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: nevillew on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 07:06:42
At least we won't be signing Neil Harris then.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 07:13:59
At least we won't be signing Neil Harris then.

:D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: bennett on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 07:25:52
[dv] yeah that'd be mental buying a proven goal scorer[/dv]


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 08:07:05
At least we won't be signing Neil Harris then.
:doh:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 10:21:13
At least we won't be signing Neil Harris then.

Ooh, naughty


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 15:10:34
At least we won't be signing Neil Harris then.
Alright Kev?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 15:12:12
Ironically of course, Harris would probably fit the bill perfectly in terms of the mentality he's talking about. Just a slight technicality that old Nev has found there.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 19:01:55
Good interview with PdC on STFC World.

Definitely exciting times ahead.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: spacey on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 19:07:16
I'll just guess what he said...


I'm not convinced


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: limpwrist on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 20:47:16
I'll just guess what he said...


I'm not convinced

I am. It's the time of the 2nd coming. Lou Macari lives again


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 21:05:13
I am. It's the time of the 2nd coming. Lou Macari lives again


He's not the messiah he's a very naughty boy.


[url width=350 height=300]http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/entertainment/clubs_and_bars/images/brunel_gallery_10.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 21:06:19
Despite the cringe worthy quote I love the fact that's our very own sheepish looking Lou judging a wet T-Shirt competition during his time as Town manager.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: jutty274 on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 22:02:27
That looked like an 80's brunel rooms


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 22:02:45

He's not the messiah he's a very naughty boy.


[url width=350 height=300]http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/entertainment/clubs_and_bars/images/brunel_gallery_10.jpg[/url]
She's not a boy - She's got boob-i-doobies !


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: jutty274 on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 22:09:26
She's well trimed as well, no little spider legs in sight.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: mrverve on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 22:14:58
Look at Lou, he's hiding his erection. Dirty perv...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, June 2, 2011, 22:17:54
Why would you look at Lou when there is a lov-er-ly lady in front?

Wonder what she looks like now?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Huwwy on Friday, June 3, 2011, 06:32:40
Wonder what she looks like now?

Dot Cotton?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arnold.J.Rimmer on Sunday, June 12, 2011, 21:02:46
D.I. CANIO soapy tit wank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N73z_wHyQz0


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 20:31:59
When is he back in the country?

Has he played the last of the charity games he was doing now?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: corner on Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 20:36:05
When is he back in the country?

Has he played the last of the charity games he was doing now?
Thurs fri this week i think.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dozno9 on Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 20:48:33
D.I. CANIO soapy tit wank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N73z_wHyQz0

Too many arm lifts for my liking.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Luci on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 07:52:51
Have we got a thread for a song for him yet?  This came to me this morning......

Never mind   :cry:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 07:57:12
Someone's got there before you Luci


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Luci on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 07:59:00
Someone's got there before you Luci

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Deano8123 on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 09:48:40
Morning Folk's

Does anybody know when Di Canio is coming back to England? Busy week for the club with players coming and going and we havn't heard anything from the manager.

Would just like to know when he is likely to come back so we can get some idea of his plans for next season. to be honest im getting fed up reading what Jeremy Wray has to say on each story coming out of SN1.

is he on holiday or still play charity matches in Italy?




Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Trashbat? on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 09:51:18
He is just sorting out a problem with The Illuminati at the Vatican before he turns his attention to the bigger problem of getting us promoted


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: nochee on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 09:52:11
He will not be coming back until anout November, i've heard. Apparently he will be managing the team via skype.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 10:25:59
In all seriousness,he does seem to spend more time in Italy than here since he got the job. Stfc should be his main priority now


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 10:30:51
In all seriousness, the players are still on holiday. How do you know he's not in contact with the club on a daily basis? He's more than likely got his own contacts. I'm sure he had a say in the recent departures with players/backroom staff.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: mrverve on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 10:31:57
He doesn't have to be in his office at the CG to conduct business.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 10:33:17
In all seriousness,he does seem to spend more time in Italy than here since he got the job. Stfc should be his main priority now

How do you know he isn't working over there now for us? There's not a lot else he can do in Swindon until the players come back into training.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: phelpsieboy on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 10:35:59
Think Gary Rose mentioned hes overseas now trying to conduct deals for overseas players


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 10:42:56
Office maybe, but out of the country? He's hardly ever here.
Say a target is stalling on coming here,having the manager here to sell the club will only be a good thing. Things like that could crop up quickly.

If he is chasing players in Italy then fine,but he seems to have only been here on flying visits so far.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 10:44:30
WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

 http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,43948.msg962283.html#msg962283


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 10:45:41
One hopes he is just extracting himself from previous commitments in Italy, doing the STFC job while doing so.

Hopefully he will be back in Blighty full time soon. It may not necessarily be hindering us while he isn't. But I'll feel happier that he is fully on board!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: mrverve on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 10:51:12
Office maybe, but out of the country? He's hardly ever here.
Say a target is stalling on coming here,having the manager here to sell the club will only be a good thing. Things like that could crop up quickly.

If he is chasing players in Italy then fine,but he seems to have only been here on flying visits so far.

The majority of players are still on their holidays. Di Canio is over in Italy involved in some charity work which he promised to carry out some months ago. He has to sort out the situation with his family aswell. At the same time I'm sure he's on the phone with Wrey, Watkins, agents, players.

Relax.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: fuzzy on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 15:08:38
The majority of players are still on their holidays. Di Canio is over in Italy involved in some charity work which he promised to carry out some months ago. He has to sort out the situation with his family aswell. At the same time I'm sure he's on the phone with Wrey, Watkins, agents, players.

Relax.

I'm sure he has a laptop and a mobile, so his office is with him all the time. I am a bit scared about the Italian > English > Italian translation fuck up potential with software though :crash:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 15:11:19
the contracts are being translated through google translate


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 15:49:37
Would just like to know when he is likely to come back so we can get some idea of his plans for next season. to be honest im getting fed up reading what Jeremy Wray has to say on each story coming out of SN1.

On mainland Europe, it is very common for the owner/chairman to do all the deals, maybe with the help of a DoF. He then just tells the coach to get them playing...could be we're opting for this model, in which case little point in di Canio turning up until the start of pre-season training.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 16:03:47
On mainland Europe, it is very common for the owner/chairman to do all the deals, maybe with the help of a DoF. He then just tells the coach to get them playing...could be we're opting for this model, in which case little point in di Canio turning up until the start of pre-season training.

One slight issue. We don't have a DoF or a chief scout to advise JW. I don't doubt Bodin has an input, I do doubt DiCanio is going to stake his reputation on that with no input.

Could be an agency is doing all the recruiting for us = madness.

Unless you are suggesting Jeremy W is the man performing the talent spotting.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 16:06:27
One slight issue. We don't have a DoF or a chief scout to advise JW. I don't doubt Bodin has an input, I do doubt DiCanio is going to stake his reputation on that with no input.

Could be an agency is doing all the recruiting for us = madness.

Unless you are suggesting Jeremy W is the man performing the talent spotting.

Andrew Fitton likes to think he has great knowledge of football....still on the Board, just no longer chairman.

One things for sure di Canio would know fuck all about the likes of Devera and Smith.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 16:09:31
So, do we not think that any Italian signings will be Di-Canio's work then?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 16:42:22

One things for sure di Canio would know fuck all about the likes of Devera and Smith.

Sorry but do you know that for sure, who's to say what di Canio's knowledge of lower league football is? Surely it's a guess at best?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 16:44:10
So, do we not think that any Italian signings will be Di-Canio's work then?

Maybe the deal is di Canio trys to fix up a couple of Italian players and leaves the rest in-house.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 16:47:14
Maybe the deal is di Canio trys to fix up a couple of Italian players and leaves the rest in-house.

........... and maybe not.

I couldn't care less if Janet Street Porter is getting our players, just as long as they do the job.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 16:47:38
Sorry but do you know that for sure, who's to say what di Canio's knowledge of lower league football is? Surely it's a guess at best?

OK...I admit it...it was a guess.  Since di Canio has been in Italy doing punditry, he's liked nothing better than to jet in and take in games at Underhill and Bootham Crescent.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 16:53:00
OK...I admit it...it was a guess.  Since di Canio has been in Italy doing punditry, he's liked nothing better than to jet in and take in games at Underhill and Bootham Crescent.

So the point still stands, you don't have any idea what Di Canio's football knowledge is, it's a guess. Can you prove that Di Canio hadn't heard of Devera and Smith?

Quote
One things for sure...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 16:54:10
........... and maybe not.

I couldn't care less if Janet Street Porter is getting our players, just as long as they do the job.

I hear she's rather an accomplished cone gatherer in her spare time..was All England Champion in her younger days. A little known fact :hmmm:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: yeo on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 17:03:26
So the point still stands, you don't have any idea what Di Canio's football knowledge is, it's a guess. Can you prove that Di Canio hadn't heard of Devera and Smith?


no one on this forum actually knows (unless the managers registered?) but I think its pretty safe to say that he doesnt have an encylopedic knowledge of lower league English Footballer.I know most of the forum want to bum him,but try and be a bit realsitic hey.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 17:07:09
I dont get the Di Canio slating for not being here much. At the end of the day he was working in Italy for the media before he came here. He wouldn't have had a break. Everyone is entitled to a holiday. Just seems like people are moaning for the sake of it. No change there though I guess.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 17:09:07
In his autobiography he says he had a big fight with Atkinson because he challenged big Ron on only comming to training 1 day a week. He'll be here plenty when it counts.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: yeo on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 17:50:42
I dont get the Di Canio slating for not being here much. At the end of the day he was working in Italy for the media before he came here. He wouldn't have had a break. Everyone is entitled to a holiday. Just seems like people are moaning for the sake of it. No change there though I guess.

Ive not even noticed anyone saying what you are saying.As far as im concerned he can do the close season stuff at the end of a phone.If he's not back for the 1st day of preseason training because of other commitments then i'll be moaning.But theres a lot of blind optimism,can't do any wrong delusiuon flotaing around these boards and its staring to get on my moobs


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 19:00:28
I think he needs to be here to help get the players in myself. I dont think there is anyone thats gone to a league two club that we've really 'missed' out on. 10 days till pre season starts. funny how never have enough of the players to start it properly!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 19:34:11
Ive not even noticed anyone saying what you are saying.As far as im concerned he can do the close season stuff at the end of a phone.If he's not back for the 1st day of preseason training because of other commitments then i'll be moaning.But theres a lot of blind optimism,can't do any wrong delusiuon flotaing around these boards and its staring to get on my moobs
I don't think it's he can't do no wrong i think it's more people are having a moan about him not being here when infact every other manager in the country are all away aswell.

Not you Yeo but while as you say some think he can't go wrong there are also others who seem to be having a pop at him for doing what every other manager is doing in the country.

It's fair to say that he probably didn't have a clue who they were but i think it's fair to say he has looked at videos of them and liked what he saw.

I know most have blind optomism but we also have a few here who no matter who he signs will moan,i won't name names but i have seen some on here who when he was appointed said i hope he doesn't just sign italians etc and now when he signs the first 2 are moaning he has signed unknowns.

Anyway i think your moan was more to do with lack of human conversation the last few days  ;)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 19:35:31
i do have to say i'm feeling a little frustrated that he's not been around much, yeah people need their holidays but pdc's never been a manager, has no experience of the lower leagues in england and doesn't know the players we have here, personally, that is. 

it's not as if he'd been in the job before and is just on a break for a couple of weeks, i bet there's quite a few managers who've been at their respective clubs for a couple of seasons who have been around their clubs over the last week or so.  like someone said it would be nice if he was around for negotiations recently or to welcome devera and smith.

i'm not pulling my hair out over it but it does bother me to a degree


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 19:39:53
it's not as if he'd been in the job before and is just on a break for a couple of weeks,

He has been working though.

He's not been sat about with his thumb up his arse eating pasta before he got the job here.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 19:45:27
that's not what i said or meant, i'd just like him to be a little bit more accessable given that he's a new appointment especially when it's such a vital close season for us


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 19:50:16
i was one who raised the issue of di canio not beig here much. so far he hasn't been.
whether that is an issue or not answerable by anyone on here. we can only speculate. it wasn't a moan either.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 19:51:22
Shut up fucking moaning.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 19:52:20
i'll moan about cunts saying i'm maoning when i aint fucking moaning.
alright!!!!!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 19:55:35
I am moaning at you spelling moaning as maoning when it should be moaning :D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 19:56:17
don't lecture me on speeling you cunt


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 20:02:51
don't lecture me on speeling you cunt

 :zipped:







Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 20:04:56
that's not what i said or meant, i'd just like him to be a little bit more accessable given that he's a new appointment especially when it's such a vital close season for us

With technology as it is, who's to say he isn't accessible? Web cams, on line conferencing, etc, he may be in constant touch with the club.

As yeo said, it's the start of pre season that he needs to be actually at the club, until then he can give and receive input wherever he is.

Chillax all you melon twisters!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 20:06:44
You're twisting my melon maaaan


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 20:09:12
I tend to agree with K,Tom but the fact is that when agreeing to be the new boss he probably put a lot of mini clauses in like this.

But on the plus side the fact that his and his two buds joining him are not having any family over for the first three months so they can solely concentrate on getting the club up and running suggests that when he finally arrives the good times will begin.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 20:25:46
With technology as it is, who's to say he isn't accessible? Web cams, on line conferencing, etc, he may be in constant touch with the club.

As yeo said, it's the start of pre season that he needs to be actually at the club, until then he can give and receive input wherever he is.

Chillax all you melon twisters!

i mean accessable from a fan point of view mostly when i say that, he's the face of the club now and he's not here, i wouldn't mind if he'd been in the job before


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 20:46:49
By all accounts the man is in Italy working on getting us players

He's not omnipotent for crying out loud.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 20:50:46
i know and i'm not even that worried by it anyway, maybe if we'd even just heard a soundbite about the two recent signings...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 20:51:47
If he stayed here and got no good Italians in and the we had a shite season, people would be moaning that he didn't spend time and use his contacts in Italy to get good Italians in.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 20:52:20
i know and i'm not even that worried by it anyway, maybe if we'd even just heard a soundbite about the two recent signings...

He's already spoken about them.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 20:54:28
i didn't see that, where?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 20:59:44
i'm not bothered about italians at all to be honest and i very rarely moan about anything anyway


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 21:02:12
Can't fucking find it

It was an adver story about the same two players. Also mentioned about the delayed Italian signing


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 21:07:08
oh well, i'm not doubting that there's work being done from his end but i will deffo feel better when he's back here and i look forward to it


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 21:07:20
OK, my bad

I read something as a Di Canio quote, but it wasn't

But there's still a few here doing a bit of a gazzza (<- 3z's)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: cheltred69 on Thursday, June 16, 2011, 22:39:51
Still nothing on the OS about the 2 new players announced in the media.
Are the club really keeping quiet until we get a "name" to announce as the first signing?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, June 17, 2011, 06:48:44
It's probably because they won't officially sign until the 1st July. It may be the same for all our players who cleared off. Their clubs may not have announced their signings as yet (I don't know that, I've not checked, but that's my guess).


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, June 17, 2011, 07:23:10
I reckon dicanio is waiting to bring in the ones from italy then will unveil all the new signings on the same day.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, June 17, 2011, 07:36:52
Yeah, they should bring in a whole 'Variety Club Sunshine Coach' full of them a la Paul Sturrock 8)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, June 17, 2011, 07:39:18
Yeah, they should bring in a whole 'Variety Club Sunshine Coach' full of them a la Paul Sturrock 8)
I want this.I am going to email Nick Watkins i'm sure his email has been posted here once or twice hasn't it.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: [email protected] on Friday, June 17, 2011, 08:35:10
As he is aftermplayers with a bit of passion, he may be trying to sign this guy as our new number 1.  http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/article/54428/


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, June 17, 2011, 08:57:51
looks like drug testing missed a trick there


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: arthurhorsfield on Friday, June 17, 2011, 09:04:02
So there I am in a bar called Debut in Seoul .....its a nice place with some nice ladies :-) ....and above the bar is a Swindon Town scarf circa 1994/5.  Two blokes from Larkhill are at the bar ..well of course they would be its Seoul in South Korea for fucks sake, and they say ...yeah fucking things are all over Seoul!!   So who the hell was it...I need to know and somebody here must know who was in Korea armed with a supply of scarves??? 


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: nevillew on Friday, June 17, 2011, 09:28:47
So there I am in a bar called Debut in Seoul .....its a nice place with some nice ladies :-) ....and above the bar is a Swindon Town scarf circa 1994/5.  Two blokes from Larkhill are at the bar ..well of course they would be its Seoul in South Korea for fucks sake, and they say ...yeah fucking things are all over Seoul!!   So who the hell was it...I need to know and somebody here must know who was in Korea armed with a supply of scarves??? 
Perhaps the scarves were sent by Korea ?
Or perhaps it was a bad Korea move ?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 17, 2011, 09:30:52
More than just the Seoul pun this time then nev!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, June 17, 2011, 09:44:59
So there I am in a bar called Debut in Seoul .....its a nice place with some nice ladies :-) ....and above the bar is a Swindon Town scarf circa 1994/5.  Two blokes from Larkhill are at the bar ..well of course they would be its Seoul in South Korea for fucks sake, and they say ...yeah fucking things are all over Seoul!!   So who the hell was it...I need to know and somebody here must know who was in Korea armed with a supply of scarves??? 

My guess would be Mexico Red, didn't he do something similar in Guatemala or somewhere in that area, where he took a load of Town shirts with him and gave them to random people?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: arthurhorsfield on Friday, June 17, 2011, 09:48:09
You were incheon to say that I bet!

Next time Im in Bangkok we could meet for a beer..nomally at the Shangri La La land or Conrad if my budget is tight...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: arthurhorsfield on Friday, June 17, 2011, 09:49:47
Seoul is a long old trek from Guatemala but it would be his style..has he relented in his objection to PDC at all?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: wiggy on Friday, June 17, 2011, 09:59:34
Has there been any reaction from PdC about the fixtures?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: nochee on Friday, June 17, 2011, 10:03:25
Has there been any reaction from PdC about the fixtures?

Yes. He is very excited about the Oxford at home fixture as he knows this is a very important game for the Town fans. He has promised to be back in time for it.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:16:52
Interesting article for the 00.01% of fans - (c) Nick Watkins - who aren't di Canio sympathisers.
http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/7335/38/ (http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/7335/38/)

If only 1 in 10000 are anti-di Canio, by latest reckoning our fan-base is threatening Man United's.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:21:25
If only 1 in 10000 are anti-di Canio, by latest reckoning our fan-base is threatening Man United's.

If you need to take what is clearly an off the cuff statement and apply it in a literal sense to reinforce your argument then you're not doing very well, are you?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Benzel on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:26:52
Wait.... Di Canio is a..... fascist?!?!?!?!?!?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Luci on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:27:55
Yes. He is very excited about the Oxford at home fixture as he knows this is a very important game for the Town fans. He has promised to be back in time for it.

 :D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:35:14
If you need to take what is clearly an off the cuff statement and apply it in a literal sense to reinforce your argument then you're not doing very well, are you?

Less valid than making up a fake statistic to reinforce your argument you mean?

Jamie, you've made it abundantly clear that you have no sympathy with the anti-DUX brigade, but do you really have to pick an argument every time one of us raises his head over the parapet?

I posted the article because I thought it might interest some TEFers. So until TEF officially outlaws dissenters, please just press "Ignore" if you can't cope with an alternative view to your own. It's getting tiresome.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:35:28
Be nice if these magazines and that were to listen to the other side of the argument


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:39:17
It's getting tiresome.

Who bought the subject up?

Anyway, as we are on the matter of taking cliches literally:

We'd better be careful about electric atmospheres - Sounds a bit dangerous.
A 12th man on the pitch - Surely that's cheating
What about blow your socks off appointments - Risky
Getting every man to stand 10 feet tall - Not sure that's possible

I think football needs a complete re-hash because a lot of untrue statements are being said. It's just not on.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:40:34
Be nice if these magazines and that were to listen to the other side of the argument

This was just one fan's view. Why don't you send them your article?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:45:20
Who bought the subject up?

Anyway, as we are on the matter of taking cliches literally:

We'd better be careful about electric atmospheres - Sounds a bit dangerous.
A 12th man on the pitch - Surely that's cheating
What about blow your socks off appointments - Risky
Getting every man to stand 10 feet tall - Not sure that's possible

I think football needs a complete re-hash because a lot of untrue statements are being said. It's just not on.



We'll leave it there shall we.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:47:27
My work colleague says there is a positive podcast on the times 'the game' about Di Canio


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:50:52
My work colleague says there is a positive podcast on the times 'the game' about Di Canio

Do we need a subscription to access it?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: london_red on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:54:34
You can get at it through itunes.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:59:00
This was just one fan's view. Why don't you send them your article?
I have.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, June 17, 2011, 12:10:36
I have.

Well done. I'd be interested to read it if you want to pm me.

Or to ensure it gets published, you could post it as a comment under the original article.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 17, 2011, 12:28:14
I'll write one myself and submit it.

Sometime this weekend a I am currently suffering from the monster cold from satan's scrotum sweat juice.

Might even throw in a few cliches that are factually incorrect, that'll put the cat among the pigeons.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, June 17, 2011, 12:34:27
Cheers Bangkok

You can write one for me aswell  :D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Friday, June 17, 2011, 14:01:02
Well done. I'd be interested to read it if you want to pm me.

Or to ensure it gets published, you could post it as a comment under the original article.

Most that read WSC's are Pseudo football fans anyway, this is the type of article that would appeal to them.

The voice of the (very small) minority is given a platform, whilst the vast majority are cast as some type of moron element because we refuse to speculate on the meaning of Di Canio's politics (Which have no relevance anyway) and prefer to concentrate on what he may bring to the Club in terms of FOOTBALL! yes football, the only thing that most football fans are interested in.

Fucking crap mag anyway.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: yeo on Friday, June 17, 2011, 16:01:19
Interesting article for the 00.01% of fans - (c) Nick Watkins - who aren't di Canio sympathisers.
http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/7335/38/ (http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/7335/38/)

If only 1 in 10000 are anti-di Canio, by latest reckoning our fan-base is threatening Man United's.

Interesting well written piece.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, June 17, 2011, 16:41:56
Interesting well written piece.
Must admit it is a well written piece.

Did they have to correct any of your spelling ;)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, June 17, 2011, 16:51:17
Most that read WSC's are Pseudo football fans anyway, this is the type of article that would appeal to them.

The voice of the (very small) minority is given a platform, whilst the vast majority are cast as some type of moron element because we refuse to speculate on the meaning of Di Canio's politics (Which have no relevance anyway) and prefer to concentrate on what he may bring to the Club in terms of FOOTBALL! yes football, the only thing that most football fans are interested in.

Fucking crap mag anyway.

WSC is the best football magazine on the market. Bar NONE


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: yeo on Friday, June 17, 2011, 17:06:18
Must admit it is a well written piece.

Did they have to correct any of your spelling ;)

haha as if id read when WSC..im not interested if football


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, June 17, 2011, 17:10:47
haha as if id read when WSC..im not interested if football

Well I think this settles the "Did Yeo write it?" debate.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 17, 2011, 17:11:10
Most that read WSC's are Pseudo football fans anyway, this is the type of article that would appeal to them.

The voice of the (very small) minority is given a platform, whilst the vast majority are cast as some type of moron element because we refuse to speculate on the meaning of Di Canio's politics (Which have no relevance anyway) and prefer to concentrate on what he may bring to the Club in terms of FOOTBALL! yes football, the only thing that most football fans are interested in.

Totally agree. I'm getting a bit fucked off by these people who obviously think they're a better person than me because they give a shit and I really couldn't.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Friday, June 17, 2011, 17:17:27
Agreed sambo


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: yeo on Friday, June 17, 2011, 17:18:17
Well I think this settles the "Did Yeo wrote it?" debate.
:D


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, June 17, 2011, 17:38:54
Totally agree. I'm getting a bit fucked off by these people who obviously think they're a better person than me because they give a shit and I really couldn't.

Barry Scott fucking likes this. Smug sanctimony is annoying.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, June 17, 2011, 17:43:46
I think it's great that Paolo is staying away for a while. He's so clever. He's giving us all time to get to know each other better and do some bonding.

Group hug, anyone?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, June 17, 2011, 18:51:16
High 5 maybe?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 17, 2011, 18:59:37
I read WSC and this article has all the hallmarks of the standard premise to get something published by them.

Usual funny WSC opener with link
 ↓
Well written "shame on you"
 ↓
Well written "shame on you"
 ↓
"You're going to hell!"
 ↓
"It's irrelevant anyway because he'll be gone by October"
 ↓
The End


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, June 17, 2011, 19:15:47
High 5 maybe?

It wouldn't be mistaken for a Roman salute, would it? Be a pity to undo all the good work being done on here.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Christy on Friday, June 17, 2011, 20:08:59
Interesting article for the 00.01% of fans - (c) Nick Watkins - who aren't di Canio sympathisers.
http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/7335/38/ (http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/7335/38/)

If only 1 in 10000 are anti-di Canio, by latest reckoning our fan-base is threatening Man United's.

Thank you Red Frog for sharing that: my kids have snaffled away this month's copy of WSC, and as another of the 00.01%, I'm always up for a good read which I otherwise might have missed.

I also look forward to seeing the well reasoned responses next month.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Friday, June 17, 2011, 21:15:54
WSC is the best football magazine on the market. Bar NONE

You saying that just proves my fucking point!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: RobertT on Friday, June 17, 2011, 21:29:57
I'd like to argue against the statement that the article is well written in so far as it uses some decent punctuation and a healthy dose of intelligent words, but other than that, it would appear to be a rather over simplification of the issue by someone with some issues when it comes to the use those words.

Let us take the section about "cannot possibly compensate for the irreversible damage done to the club's reputation".  In order for such a statement to be used in a way that suggests it is an irrefutable fact it would require some supporting evidence.  As far as I can tell, other than upsetting some people for valid reasons, it has not, thus far, caused anywhere near a level of damage (if any) to the clubs reputation.  Infact, if anything, it has raised or improved the clubs reputation.  Now, some may argue that just suggests the country is full of poorly educated layabouts, but shit happens you know.  If more people like it than dislike it, reputation improved.

I used to like WSC, but it's a pale imitation of what it once was.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, June 17, 2011, 21:40:42
I thought the article was bollox - very shallow and with bugger all to back it up in the way of facts.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leftside on Friday, June 17, 2011, 22:19:06
You saying that just proves my fucking point!

Or perhaps because you don't rate it makes it a decent footy mag?

WSC is an opinion piece and a number of articles contain mistakes and minority opinions - many of which are challenged in the letters pages. I've subscribed for a number of years and am happy to do so even though I don't agree with all the content. Just like I'm not going to give up my Town End season ticket just because I don't like fascism. I still think it is good that WSC continues to be a voice for certain campaigns - such as remaining anti-Franchise and pro-terracing. All publications have an editorial slant - the key is to understand this and not be blinkered into thinking that everything published is gospel.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Friday, June 17, 2011, 22:27:34
I thought the article was bollox - very shallow and with bugger all to back it up in the way of facts.

So classic journalism then.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, June 17, 2011, 22:50:45
You saying that just proves my fucking point!

There's not much too that article tbf. I like the way the prose reads though, and the fact they hardly cover "the big 4".


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 07:20:52
Or perhaps because you don't rate it makes it a decent footy mag?

Oooooh....get her :gay:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: A Gent Orange on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 10:02:43
A few pages back someone mentioned The Game Podcast on PDC. I've just listened to it and it's moderately interesting. It's Gab Marcotti, who wrote PDC's bio, presenting and mainly talking. Obviously he's a bit bias, and a fucking shit presenter, but he points out a few new things and has spoken to him recently.

One is that PDC twice came top of his group on his coaching badges in Italy. But he does admit that he is a rampant egotist, very intense and very um... arrogant. He goes over the old ground about giving advice to young pros and being a good trainer.

He is earning less now than when he was a pundit. Also Capello really doesn't like him, nutjob is the word used.

He does talk about politics but I'm not re-opening that can of worms because everyone has their own opinions - and if anyone disagrees they get shouted down.

He seems to think that PDC will make a good manager but hints that everything will have to revolve around him - which could sound a bit McMahon. The same with the bit about being very straightfoward.

It is worth a listen but tolerating Marcotti makes it tricky.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leftside on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 16:52:26
Oooooh....get her :gay:

'Pseudo' football fan fights back shock!

Amazing that a minority footy magazine has lasted so long.

What we need are more mags that suck up to the Premier League, Sky Sports and appeases the majority that have no opinions on anything.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 17:00:30
'Pseudo' football fan fights back shock!

Amazing that a minority footy magazine has lasted so long.

What we need are more mags that suck up to the Premier League, Sky Sports and appeases the majority that have no opinions on anything.

Don't be such a tool. We all have opinions. The difference is that the large majority of us don't go round trying to ram our opinions down others throats, when those opinions have fuck all to do with the matter at hand.

Maybe I was overly critical of WSC, but on the few occasions I've bought it it seemed to be full of 'right on' pricks putting the football world to rights.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 17:49:25
Well i think we have cleared up who wrote the article.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 17:58:34
Well i think we have cleared up who wrote the article.

Who do you reckon it was? :hmmm:

Surely not......Herthab? ???


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 17:59:10
I buy WSC monthly and enjoy it. However, it can be pretentious and condescending towards the football fan.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:00:12
I haven't bought it for years and years (possibly longer)...it used to be excellent. No idea what it's like these days though.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:01:43
Am I being whoooshed or did nobody notice the authors name at the end of the article?

WSC is so awful in it's sanctimonious, condescending and patronising glorification of lower league football that I prefer to skimread FourFourTwo instead.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:04:48
I noticed the name but couldn't make a connection

Who is David Squires?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:07:00
The author of the article :)

I doubt it's someone from here. The dissenters are so few that I think everyone knows who we are.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:09:36
Ah.

I see your point now. I tried myself to try to match up the writing style, which is quite pointless really.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leftside on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:13:16
Don't be such a tool. We all have opinions. The difference is that the large majority of us don't go round trying to ram our opinions down others throats, when those opinions have fuck all to do with the matter at hand.

Maybe I was overly critical of WSC, but on the few occasions I've bought it it seemed to be full of 'right on' pricks putting the football world to rights.



Of course we all have opinions, and WSC is an organ for expressing opinions. You might not agree with the majority of articles, editorials, letters, book reviews, photos etc that feature in it, and you can express your opinion on this - it would be ridiculous for anyone to want to deny you this. You are free to write a letter to WSC to criticise the content of an article, or submit an article that expresses your point of view on a particular subject. I don't think authors of WSC articles are trying to ram their views down people's throats, and I don't expect any author would expect all readers to agree with them. And is there anything wrong with football fans identifying issues in the sport that they consider problematic or troubling and then alerting others to it? I suspect a lot of WSC readers are the kinds of fans that see more to football than just the matchday experience. At the very least, it is the kind of football publication that has the balls to regularly consider corruption, mismanagement and dubious ownership - subjects that many Town fans can relate to.

In this instance you seem to only be able to view those with different opinions to yours in abusive and generalised terms. I think it is unfair to bracket someone like me as a 'pseudo' fan, 'tool' and 'prick'.

Surely if you express yourself in such a way, you should expect those you have criticised to defend themselves, hopefully in a reasoned way.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:19:37

In this instance you seem to only be able to view those with different opinions to yours in abusive and generalised terms.


And you don't?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:20:35
Ah.

I see your point now. I tried myself to try to match up the writing style, which is quite pointless really.
I tried the same and then did a bit of snooping but failed. I'm too nosey.

The article makes a couple of good points, particularly on the football side of things, but like most things in WSC it's just very exaggerated.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:27:49
It has some interesting opinions expressed, but the whole crux appears to be that it has soiled the clubs name, to the point where we will never be able to repair the damage, which is complete bollocks.  If the whole proviso is bollocks, so becomes the article itself.  WSC used to be a pretty decent nationwide fanzine, the sort people would spend 15 mins sneaking a look inside WH Smith for.  It seems to have got a little far up it's own rear end now though, preaching rather than delivering ovservational commentary.  It's a bit Daily Mail for the "real football fan".  The current Villa Managerial circus would have provided a good 4 page effort in times gone by, not only picking up on the pure hatred of Villa fans towards the appointment but then going on to provide some humorous musings on derbies in general, or other less well known clubs where such outpourings have occured in the past.  If they do cover it now, it'll probably be with some effort at having a pop at money in the game.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:29:00
I think it's well written in the sense that the writer has some writing talent.

Quite witty and can keep the readers interest and as you say SY, does make some good (although a tad obvious) footballing points.

But the spin reminds me of the daily mail.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leftside on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:30:39
And you don't?

Of course not.

Where have described others using abusive language?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:30:53
It's a bit Daily Mail for the "real football fan". 

You beat me to it


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dazzza on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:32:00
A few pages back someone mentioned The Game Podcast on PDC. I've just listened to it and it's moderately interesting. It's Gab Marcotti, who wrote PDC's bio, presenting and mainly talking. Obviously he's a bit bias, and a fucking shit presenter, but he points out a few new things and has spoken to him recently.

One is that PDC twice came top of his group on his coaching badges in Italy. But he does admit that he is a rampant egotist, very intense and very um... arrogant. He goes over the old ground about giving advice to young pros and being a good trainer.

He is earning less now than when he was a pundit. Also Capello really doesn't like him, nutjob is the word used.

He does talk about politics but I'm not re-opening that can of worms because everyone has their own opinions - and if anyone disagrees they get shouted down.

He seems to think that PDC will make a good manager but hints that everything will have to revolve around him - which could sound a bit McMahon. The same with the bit about being very straightfoward.

It is worth a listen but tolerating Marcotti makes it tricky.

Cheers for that Orange, any linkage?

Egotistical, intense and arrogant don’t inspire me but then could quite easily be used to describe old Jose.  I think by starting at this PDC is at least demonstrating a willingness to roll his sleeves up and get started in a role that while many may describe as a safe starting berth if he fails then he is going to really struggle to get another management role in English football.  

I actually think he will have us playing some very slick football although I just hope he realises that we need a side with some real bite and grit at this level.  





Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:32:01
Of course not.

Where have described others using abusive language?


Suggesting that others have no opinion on anything is rather insulting, do you not think?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:33:51
Of course we all have opinions, and WSC is an organ for expressing opinions. You might not agree with the majority of articles, editorials, letters, book reviews, photos etc that feature in it, and you can express your opinion on this - it would be ridiculous for anyone to want to deny you this. You are free to write a letter to WSC to criticise the content of an article, or submit an article that expresses your point of view on a particular subject. I don't think authors of WSC articles are trying to ram their views down people's throats, and I don't expect any author would expect all readers to agree with them. And is there anything wrong with football fans identifying issues in the sport that they consider problematic or troubling and then alerting others to it? I suspect a lot of WSC readers are the kinds of fans that see more to football than just the matchday experience. At the very least, it is the kind of football publication that has the balls to regularly consider corruption, mismanagement and dubious ownership - subjects that many Town fans can relate to.

In this instance you seem to only be able to view those with different opinions to yours in abusive and generalised terms. I think it is unfair to bracket someone like me as a 'pseudo' fan, 'tool' and 'prick'.

Surely if you express yourself in such a way, you should expect those you have criticised to defend themselves, hopefully in a reasoned way.

Why would I want to counter the minority's argument in print? I consider it an exercise in futility even on here (Even though I do bite). The people that are so sure of their beliefs aren't going to be swayed by a piece in a magazine.

That is actually aside from my main point, which is the minority view seems to get more of a platform than the majority in this instance and it's something that WSC's is fond of doing.
You say they identify issues of concern? Fine. Safe standing and corruption are issues of widespread concern. Having a manager who proclaims himself an Italian facist is not. That is the concern of a miniscule amount of people and most of those are so driven by their own bias, they can't see the fucking irony in what they're saying.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leftside on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:35:48
Suggesting that others have no opinions is rather insulting, do you not think?

I hardly think irony is particularly insulting - especially on this forum, and I certainly did not use abusive language.

I apologise to you and others if the language I used has insulted them.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:37:53
they can't see the fucking irony in what they're saying.

This is why I continue to bite.

The hypocrisy is just so blatant. (Credit due to some anti-fascists who recognise that hypocrisy and leave it be)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: herthab on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:38:40
Foul and abusive language is the foundation on which this forum is built!

If you don't like it, fuck off. (Or at least join in)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Sussex on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:39:39
PDC is at least demonstrating a willingness to roll his sleeves up and get started in a role that while many may describe as a safe starting berth if he fails then he is going to really struggle to get another management role in English football.

I think this is key, he's on +10 brownie points with most fans before a ball is kicked, his managerial cv starts here and he needs to kick it off with a corker.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: A Gent Orange on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:50:29
Cheers for that Orange, any linkage?

Egotistical, intense and arrogant don’t inspire me but then could quite easily be used to describe old Jose.  I think by starting at this PDC is at least demonstrating a willingness to roll his sleeves up and get started in a role that while many may describe as a safe starting berth if he fails then he is going to really struggle to get another management role in English football.  

I actually think he will have us playing some very slick football although I just hope he realises that we need a side with some real bite and grit at this level.  

I can't do linkage as it is on iTunes or behind the paywall but it isn't hard to find. Just look for The Game and it's the 9 minute special. Second to last, I think.

The bit I missed was about PDC saying to Marcotti that he does know that he will be less impulsive, less irresponsible.

As for Jose, his arrogance is a device - he becomes the weathervane for the pressure on his team. It is artifice, something that Marcotti says PDC lacks.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:51:20
I hardly think irony is particularly insulting - especially on this forum, and I certainly did not use abusive language.

I apologise to you and others if the language I used has insulted them.

Insulting was the wrong word.

'Having a dig' would be more appropriate.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leftside on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 18:53:42
Why would I want to counter the minority's argument in print? I consider it an exercise in futility even on here (Even though I do bite). The people that are so sure of their beliefs aren't going to be swayed by a piece in a magazine.

That is actually aside from my main point, which is the minority view seems to get more of a platform than the majority in this instance and it's something that WSC's is fond of doing.
You say they identify issues of concern? Fine. Safe standing and corruption are issues of widespread concern. Having a manager who proclaims himself an Italian facist is not. That is the concern of a miniscule amount of people and most of those are so driven by their own bias, they can't see the fucking irony in what they're saying.

I didn't know whether you wanted to or not - the point is that you are free to if you feel inclined.

I've no idea what the WSC editorial policy is. What I do know is that the letters section has included views that are contrary to those of authors of articles, and those that pick up on factual errors.

Having a manager that is a self-proclaimed fascist is obviously of concern to one Town fan, so much so that they wrote an article that has been published in WSC. I don't know whether or not the WSC editor would have considered publishing an article that expressed the opinion that the majority of Town fans don't give a hoot about politics and football and that those who have expressed their distaste/discomfort with Di Canio's appointment very much appear to be in a minority. From what I have read on this forum, there is no evidence to suggest that anyone's opinions on PDC have changed dramatically because of what someone has posted. People's opinions should be judged as opinions, not as attempts to force views on others. That goes just as much for the anti-Di Canio minority as it does for those who are not. I agree that those who have opinions that are so blinkered as to not even want to hear the views of others are wrong - bigotry feeds bigotry.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Christy on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 19:20:17
Of course we all have opinions, and WSC is an organ for expressing opinions. You might not agree with the majority of articles, editorials, letters, book reviews, photos etc that feature in it, and you can express your opinion on this - it would be ridiculous for anyone to want to deny you this. You are free to write a letter to WSC to criticise the content of an article, or submit an article that expresses your point of view on a particular subject. I don't think authors of WSC articles are trying to ram their views down people's throats, and I don't expect any author would expect all readers to agree with them. And is there anything wrong with football fans identifying issues in the sport that they consider problematic or troubling and then alerting others to it? I suspect a lot of WSC readers are the kinds of fans that see more to football than just the matchday experience. At the very least, it is the kind of football publication that has the balls to regularly consider corruption, mismanagement and dubious ownership - subjects that many Town fans can relate to.

In this instance you seem to only be able to view those with different opinions to yours in abusive and generalised terms. I think it is unfair to bracket someone like me as a 'pseudo' fan, 'tool' and 'prick'.

Surely if you express yourself in such a way, you should expect those you have criticised to defend themselves, hopefully in a reasoned way.



The TEF lives! Too fucking right Leftside.

The irony for me is that everytime i see 'Leftside', I think 'Ironside' but then it's not.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 19:28:51
Leftside is Ironside's nemesis!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 19:49:36
I liked this comment on the article. I suspect, having read his book, it's not too far from the truth:

"From what I have seen and read of Paolo do Canio, I very much doubt if he is a proper, full-on fascist. That would require a level of social and political awareness that is probably way beyond him. A more likely explanation for his erratic behaviour is that he's slightly eccentric, he's extremely hot-headed and, most significant of all - he's not particularly clever.

Ideal material for football management, some might say..."


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 20:33:12
i see nothing wrong with the article. it's just someones opinion after all.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 20:40:13
While i agree it's just an opinion i don't like the way these people try and make out everyone else have the wrong outlook on life. The people who left this forum did so because they didn't want the pro dicanio camp throwing shit in their faces when infact it's been the other way round.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 20:40:14
I'm pretty sure I met the guy who wrote this.  Used to post as The_Squire on MOS.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 20:48:18
While i agree it's just an opinion i don't like the way these people try and make out everyone else have the wrong outlook on life. The people who left this forum did so because they didn't want the pro dicanio camp throwing shit in their faces when infact it's been the other way round.

i don't really give a fuck about the whole thing really. i think some on both sides of the arguement have acted like tools.
roll on the football starting so this shit will fizzle out.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 20:49:07
That probably sums it up best to be fair.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 20:50:12
saying really twice was not needed though. strongbow kicking in i think


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 20:51:34
you only said it once


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 20:52:17
really?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 20:52:39
i don't really give a fuck about the whole thing really. i think some on both sides of the arguement have acted like tools.
roll on the football starting so this shit will fizzle out.
I was just thinking the same myself, unfortunately this is likely to continue to drag on until the season actually starts. I'm not convinced it will end then unless we get off to a flyer.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 20:53:04
Did I just get whooshed?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: nochee on Saturday, June 18, 2011, 23:19:17
i don't really give a fuck about the whole thing really. i think some on both sides of the arguement have acted like tools.
roll on the football starting so this shit will fizzle out.
Amen to that. 


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 14:10:24
http://yfrog.com/h3ugrnsj

Looks like he's back...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 15:09:24
just spotted that Sippo. now lets get some more signings in PDC


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 15:35:49
just spotted that Sippo. now lets get some more signings in PDC

Surely, that should be 'more signings in PDQ'.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: corner on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 15:38:44
I like that top that joes got on, its well smart.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 15:41:22
Surely, that should be 'more signings in PDQ'.
Or perhaps more signings in PDQ PDC?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 15:42:01
Or perhaps more signings in PDQ PDC?

We have a winner.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 19:20:18
Hot off the OS, just heard it in the PDC "exciting times" interview.




He's got a really naff ringtone on his mobile.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 19:37:55
I just watched his free interview on the OS, Good news we are closing in on 3 or 4 players. But I thought last week the Adver said di Canio had completed successful talks with 3 players, makes me think the Adver know just as little as us.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 19:43:54
The Adver know nothing!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 19:45:33
Hot off the OS, just heard it in the PDC "exciting times" interview.




He's got a really naff ringtone on his mobile.

Just one cornettoooo.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: thedarkprince on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 19:50:07
That's Amore ?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: limpwrist on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 19:57:05
Shaddup you a face.  innit


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 20:22:21
I noticed in his interview he said he doesn't like to reveal details of who he's signing in case they fall through. He then said, "just like 2 have in the last 10 days." I wonder who they were? Not that it matters of course.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 23, 2011, 17:48:54
PDC piece about Swindon on Premier league world programme on Sky Sports 1 now. Not sure if I have missed it as only just turned it on.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 16:46:21
lets all laugh at scumdon.....what a truely stupid thing to do,a team on the down....i know!! LETS APPOINT A MANAGER WITH NO EXPERIENCE.....you think i,m joking but you have one foot in the conference already.....luuuuuuuuuuuurvin it and it aint even started yet.

We'll see my friend, we'll see.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 17:50:56
Eric is alright.

At least you can tell he's an adult.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 19:20:14
lets all laugh at scumdon.....what a truely stupid thing to do,a team on the down....i know!! LETS APPOINT A MANAGER WITH NO EXPERIENCE.....you think i,m joking but you have one foot in the conference already.....luuuuuuuuuuuurvin it and it aint even started yet.

JLS 4 Eva ??????????????????????????????

Oh dear, oh dear oh dear oh dear

been chatting on webcam with Craig Thompson lately ?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 19:23:35
i have a sneaking suspicion someone might have changed it to jls 4 eva


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 19:25:09
lets all laugh at scumdon.....what a truely stupid thing to do,a team on the down....i know!! LETS APPOINT A MANAGER WITH NO EXPERIENCE.....you think i,m joking but you have one foot in the conference already.....luuuuuuuuuuuurvin it and it aint even started yet.

Well you had two,how does it feel ;)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 19:25:16
i have a sneaking suspicion someone might have changed it to jls 4 eva

let me have my fun please


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: bennett on Saturday, July 2, 2011, 07:46:05
let me have my fun please
no, never!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: gingernuggets on Monday, July 18, 2011, 07:06:16
Di Canio is coming up on Talksport but not sure exactly what time.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, July 18, 2011, 07:10:26
He is on now


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: slinky on Monday, July 18, 2011, 07:47:31
What was said anything interesting?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Summerof69 on Monday, July 18, 2011, 11:08:08
Can be heard here :

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/listen-again/episode/41495

7 mins in between 8 and 8.30


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: slinky on Monday, July 18, 2011, 11:20:27
Can be heard here :

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/listen-again/episode/41495

7 mins in between 8 and 8.30

Nice one. Cheers!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Riddick on Monday, July 18, 2011, 12:52:48
Anybody care to post what was said?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: juddie on Monday, July 18, 2011, 12:57:02
not a lot to be fair, just that pre-season is important, the players will be uber fit, he won't get frustrated by fact players are in league 2 (they showed good attitude in Italy) and the samsung thing is a good idea.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, July 18, 2011, 12:59:58
Only caught the last minutes.

Speaks good English. Was very complimentory about Celtic, the club and Supporters who made him and family welcome.
I guess the first part was about Swindon, sadly I missed.
Bloke comes across passionate.

Alan Brazil made a comment after he had gone about Di Canio driving around Swindon and those roundabouts....never got the chance to ask him.

We will get loads of media coverage this season for sure.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: juddie on Monday, July 18, 2011, 13:08:18
alan brazil and ronnie irani are both bellends. this is fact.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 05:15:33
Met di Canio last night at Fratello's.
Nice to talk to him in person, very passionate and focussed as is Piccareta.
Very impressed with both of them.

Oh, and di Canio's favourite cheese is Buffalo Mozzarella from Campagna :)


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 07:07:16
Was this the competition thing phil?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 07:15:48
No, I didn't win it, it was a meet and greet with di Canio and a couple of the other management team, including Nick Watkins. £25 a ticket including a buffet (there was loads of food, and it was really nice too).

Gutted, I took my camera, turned it on when I got there, and the fucking battery was dead. D'oh!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 07:35:53
There was some clueless cunt of a photographer there from the Adver last night.
He came up to me and said "So, which one's Di Caprio?"

I said "what?"

"Which one is Di Caprio, the new Swindon guy?"

I said "Oh, Di Caprio, yeah, that's him over there in the beige jacket"


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 07:36:40
Haha ace


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 07:54:42
was he wearing a beige jacket?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 08:00:09

Oh, and di Canio's favourite cheese is Buffalo Mozzarella from Campagna :)

Once again the TEF beats the Advertiser to the stories that really matter!!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Doore on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 08:38:31

Oh, and di Canio's favourite cheese is Buffalo Mozzarella from Campagna :)

Our ex central defender now makes cheese?  That's cool.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 16:19:11
Met di Canio last night at Fratello's.
Nice to talk to him in person, very passionate and focussed as is Piccareta.
Very impressed with both of them.

Oh, and di Canio's favourite cheese is Buffalo Mozzarella from Campagna :)

I've been wondering which of Swindon and District's Italian restaurants di Canio would favour.....suppose he'd look for Lazio fans rather than Roma...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Weasel on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 16:29:30
I've been wondering which of Swindon and District's Italian restaurants di Canio would favour.....suppose he'd look for Lazio fans rather than Roma...

Casa Paolo over peatmoor / stone lane way missed a trick there...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 17:33:15
Met di Canio last night at Fratello's.
Nice to talk to him in person, very passionate and focussed as is Piccareta.
Very impressed with both of them.

Oh, and di Canio's favourite cheese is Buffalo Mozzarella from Campagna :)
Don't just tell us half the story. What is Piccareta's favourite cheese?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 17:39:27
Actually, they both agreed that Buffalo Mozzarella was their favourite cheese.
I think he was slightly flummoxed by my question to be honest :)

We spoke to Piccareta on the way out, and he chatted to us for about 5-10 minutes about how excited he is to be here, what a great honour it is to be at Swindon and looking forward to the challenges over the next two seasons.

Very impressed with both di Canio and Piccareta and what they had to say.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Weasel on Thursday, July 21, 2011, 16:37:06
You know the away kit is going to be black, right?

Or at least it was going to be a couple of weeks ago. I really hope they haven't changed their mind, it'll look ace.

Bumpitty bump. Black away kit then. Just when you thought the fascism stuff had died down a bit...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, July 21, 2011, 18:29:04
Bumpitty bump. Black away kit then. Just when you thought the fascism stuff had died down a bit...

Where does it say that?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Weasel on Thursday, July 21, 2011, 19:30:00
Say what? About the away kit? I heard a while ago (although I thought they'd changed it as it went a bit quiet)

However, according to a colleague this morning and a couple of tweets this afternoon, they haven't changed it - black away kit with red trim. If it's the same template as the home shirt, it'll look great I reckon.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Sharpe on Thursday, July 21, 2011, 20:21:34
However, according to a colleague this morning and a couple of tweets this afternoon, they haven't changed it - black away kit with red trim. If it's the same template as the home shirt, it'll look great I reckon.

I did a (very) quick mockup of what it could look like. It wouldn't look half bad, providing the kit designers are better at their jobs than i am at colouring in.  :D
[url width=440 height=480]http://i.imgur.com/PMxHi.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: axs on Thursday, July 21, 2011, 20:23:21
Did you do that to his hair or did it look pikish before?


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Sharpe on Thursday, July 21, 2011, 22:40:13
Nope, sadly his hair looked like that before.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: juddie on Friday, July 22, 2011, 10:07:57
it's awesome, is what it is.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Mark Hanrahan on Friday, July 22, 2011, 23:41:38
Tidy. Oid boi dat.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 19:39:11
Not sure if this video from SSN has been posted on here but I see Gary Stanley got interviewed :D

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,16479_7060154,00.html


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 19:48:33
Thanks Ralphy, good video that. I just want that season underway!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 20:14:43
Haha, Gary Stanley sounds like a proper wurzel


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 20:45:17
Paolo says all the right things doesn't he.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 05:16:13
Haha, Gary Stanley sounds like a proper wurzel

Was he the 2nd fan?  Recognised the 3rd fella as well.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dozno9 on Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 05:41:50
Yeah. The 3rd chap used to work in the old post office by the bus station. Funny how you recognise different fans when on the telly, as PDC would say, "it's his family".


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 06:04:21
Recognised the 3rd fella as well.

Yeah me too, I think he lives around the corner from me.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: @MacPhlea on Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 06:46:41
Like the way they interviewed PDC in front of the 'DON' of Swindon


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: bullethead on Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 10:13:03
Yeh, recognised the 3rd bloke too..... wasn't he the guy who used to get a lot of the singing going in the Town End back in the 'olden days'?
Could do with someone like that now.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 10:15:27
Yeah Whealan.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: bullethead on Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 10:23:41
Yeah Whealan.

Yeh, thats the one! Cheers DRS, it was bugging the hell out of me.
Maybe the club needs to offer him a free season ticket to come out of retirement and stoke up the atmosphere.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: jimmy_onions on Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 12:21:46
Yeh, recognised the 3rd bloke too..... wasn't he the guy who used to get a lot of the singing going in the Town End back in the 'olden days'?
Could do with someone like that now.

yep, thats the one, used to climb up on the fences in the TE or the Shrivvy to conduct us all - give him a megaphone..


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 17:00:17
Whealan is a top man...was the feller who got the Mooney song going...uckin ead in,uckin ead in told me to kick his fuckin ead in!
Think he has found his love for the Town again after being away a bit,but not sure.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 19:24:27
Whealan is a top man...was the feller who got the Mooney song going...uckin ead in,uckin ead in told me to kick his fuckin ead in!
Think he has found his love for the Town again after being away a bit,but not sure.

True story this (and I may have told it here before, so indulge me)...but you know the way you hear songs sometimes and get the words wrong?  Like when I was at primary school and 'Dance, dance, wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the dance settee' was clearly a song about this item of living room furniture that, unlike your one at home, you were actually allowed to jump up and down on.

Anyway, I digress.  I once went an entire season thinking the Town End was singing a song about 'An Oxford fan on a Christmas tree'.  Which, on reflection, did sound a little too camp to be true, but I bought it anyway.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 19:28:17
True story this (and I may have told it here before, so indulge me)...but you know the way you hear songs sometimes and get the words wrong?  Like when I was at primary school and 'Dance, dance, wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the dance settee' was clearly a song about this item of living room furniture that, unlike your one at home, you were actually allowed to jump up and down on.

Anyway, I digress.  I once went an entire season thinking the Town End was singing a song about 'An Oxford fan on a Christmas tree'.  Which, on reflection, did sound a little too camp to be true, but I bought it anyway.

i love that, brilliant


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Benzel on Monday, August 1, 2011, 15:05:30
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/BlogsDetail/0,,10341~2404004,00.html


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, August 1, 2011, 15:12:58
What an excellent article. I could read that several times.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, August 1, 2011, 15:16:40
What an excellent article. I could read that several times.
Agreed. Very insightful and pretty funny to boot!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, August 1, 2011, 15:16:55
good read that


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Berniman on Monday, August 1, 2011, 15:39:02
Brilliant


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: slinky on Monday, August 1, 2011, 15:40:08
Lovely jubbly!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: london_red on Monday, August 1, 2011, 15:57:50
Haha brilliant article.

Quote
Ask any of the current Town squad what embodies the new regime's mentality, and once you've explained to them what the word 'embodies' means, they will tell you that it is a strict emphasis on discipline both on and off the pitch.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Monday, August 1, 2011, 16:01:29
Thats brilliant,

I said the other day that everytime I hear Di canio speak I love him a bit more.

That also includes reading about him now...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, August 1, 2011, 16:17:13
I like what Di Canio said about Pavett's hair :D

"Aaaah no gel! A terrible excuse! Why not just say: 'I have a shit haircut?"


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Monday, August 1, 2011, 18:00:47
His conduct and method has been impressive since arriving but I'm kind of done with the mystique of Paolo Di Canio now. Let's get on with it.

Saturday can't come quick enough for me. I just want his players to go out there and not let us all down.

Onwards...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Sharpe on Monday, August 1, 2011, 18:33:49
Quote
Di Canio, who appeared from nowhere raising his hands in both our faces and exclaiming in his best cockney accent the phrase, 'Lovely Jubbly' at least two or three times and at an ever-increasing volume.

I like to think that he jumped out from under a table or something.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Dazzza on Monday, August 1, 2011, 19:12:54
True story this (and I may have told it here before, so indulge me)...but you know the way you hear songs sometimes and get the words wrong?  Like when I was at primary school and 'Dance, dance, wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the dance settee' was clearly a song about this item of living room furniture that, unlike your one at home, you were actually allowed to jump up and down on.

Anyway, I digress.  I once went an entire season thinking the Town End was singing a song about 'An Oxford fan on a Christmas tree'.  Which, on reflection, did sound a little too camp to be true, but I bought it anyway.

Lord of the dance settee, has made my evening.



Title: Re: di canio
Post by: carbonwhite on Tuesday, August 16, 2011, 01:38:18
"We need to feel in every ground that we can decide our destiny."

love this guy  :-[


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 5, 2012, 13:58:33
Big Old Bump.

Makes some interesting reading to see 1 year on what has happened.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Monday, May 14, 2012, 21:44:59
Won LMA Manager of League Two, Well done Paolo.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: [email protected] on Monday, May 14, 2012, 21:48:27
Well deserved too!  :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Monday, May 14, 2012, 21:53:20
Compared winning the award to having sex with madonna :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Also wants to thank the chairman as he is preparing a new contract


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Processed Beats on Monday, May 14, 2012, 21:54:17
Fully deserved.

Got some Plymouth fan tweeting me about how their manager should have won it  :zzz:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 14, 2012, 21:54:22
Said it's like having sex with Madonna. Ian Holloway, eat your heart out.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Monday, May 14, 2012, 21:55:59
Just tweeted that Jeremy Wray is at the event too, so must be recovering!
Good News.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Monday, May 14, 2012, 21:56:18
Congrats Paolo!!!


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 14, 2012, 21:57:30
Compared winning the award to having sex with madonna :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Love Paolo


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, May 14, 2012, 22:00:30
It wouldn't surprise me if he has screwed madonna.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 14, 2012, 22:10:44
Kudos to PDC.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: stfcinbmth on Monday, May 14, 2012, 22:12:14
It wouldn't surprise me if he has screwed madonna.

What a horrible thought

Well done Paolo, richly deserved. Thanks for a great season


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Monday, May 14, 2012, 22:20:05
Someone has just posted this on Twitter.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2144433/Paolo-di-Canio-race-storm-sparks-FA-investigation.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


Nice to put a downer on everything...


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: Nemo on Monday, May 14, 2012, 22:22:00
Oh boy, time to turn the internet off for a few weeks.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: tans on Monday, May 14, 2012, 22:25:04
Oh boy, time to turn the internet off for a few weeks.

My thoughts aswell


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, May 14, 2012, 22:26:31
Now we know where the I nearly quit comment came from


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: oxonrobin on Monday, May 14, 2012, 22:31:31
Now we know where the I nearly quit comment came from

This. Did well to keep it in house for as long as they did.


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: redjed on Monday, May 14, 2012, 22:48:43
It appears that we do not have a united dressing room after all :badmood:


Title: Re: di canio
Post by: dphunt88 on Monday, May 14, 2012, 22:51:50
It appears that we do not have a united dressing room after all :badmood:

No, United don't win anything! We do...