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I think most folk now accept we're as good as down, so who do you want departing L2, and who joining us from L1 and arriving from the Conference.

I'd like to see Chesterfield , Rotherham, Bury and Port Vale going up, Stockport and Bradford going down.

Joining us Rovers, Argyle and Daggers, with Crawley and Wimbledon promoted.

This would leave Wycombe, Gills, Crewe, Scum, Our Reserves, Cheltnum, Torquay, Chavenage, Cobblers, Lincoln, Accrington Stanley, Shots, Morecambe, Hereford, Macclesfield, Barnet and Burton.

A fairly southern based league, with Morecambe as a new ground along with Burton Albion boasting added on brewing theme.

Only Accy and Maccy as pointless norvern journeys. Crewe, the ex railway Towns proving that developing young players and selling them on gets you to Div 4.....Lincoln make a weekend of it and take the missus.

Plenty of localish games with Crawley for revenge, as we all now hate them, and AFC for a love in from the TEF Dong haters.

What's not to like?

This gay ass thread. That's what not to like.

Oh do fuck off.

Worst idea for a thread, ever.

(There's a premature/Reg gag out there somewhere, but I'll leave that to someone else.)

Nice try, Reg.

:fishing:

Thank you Samdy. My thoughts exactly

Looks like Reg's hooked a few already.

I've got faint hopes for Newport County :)

I'd really like Oxford. Fingers crossed they stay down.

I'd really want Wilson in charge, he got us to the play off final once.

There is no consolation whatsoever in going down. None.

'Ooh but we can play Oxford'. Fucking Pox, shit out of Town ground with 3 sides, with stands 3 miles away from the pitch and rabid inbred home fans. Fucking rubbish.

I'll be devastated if we go down.

This kind of thing is beneath you Reg. It cheapens you.

I wish Lumps had started this thread

I'd like to stay up and palace to come down..easy journey for me then..10mins

Reg on the wind up.......

I'd like us to transfer to the Премьер Лига so I could get to some away games.

What a depressing thought.

Although last time we dropped into division 4, we got a new decent manager and coach who got the team fit as fuck and winning.

We're big fish in division 4 too  :naughty:

In terms of transfers and attendances we're pretty big in league one.

Hmmm maybe. Southampton, Huddersfield, Charlton, Wendies and maybe Plymouth are bigger clubs though I'd say.

Did NorwayRed hack Reg's account? :D

Still easily in the top 10 I'd have thought. I haven't actually done the maths.

Plymouth?

Actually, that looks quite an exciting league Reg (still don't want us to be in it though!)

Top 5 by attendance  :)

http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/DivisionalAttendance/0,,10794~201025,00.html

attendances for league one

I'd rip up my season ticket etc etc rah rah rah!!

So if we get relegated to Div 2 you would buy a season ticket then rip it up?  ???

Yep!! In Danny Wilsons face!! :)

Their crowds are down this year but i'd say they're a bigger club, maybe similar.

Its a strange situation with Plymouth a few years ago they were averaging 17/18,000 at home when they were midtable in the Championship and now they're averaging about 7/8,000.

Plymouth hit a patch where they started to punch well above their weight and got ideas ahead of their station (incl nicking a manager from us and the hilarious bid to host World Cup games).  Now they're returning to their natural level...which, for what it's worth, is more or less our level.  Certainly would not bracket them as being a bigger club than we are in terms of support/potential etc.

Indeed see them as very similiar in size/stature to us. Checked and in fact they're just a few places away from us in the "all time" table

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/all-time-table (http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/all-time-table)

One other thing i noticed on there - over 3700 matches and our goal difference is just +17. Decidedly average.

last time in league 2 was quite enjoyable.at least we battered teams and had a super fit team at the rght end of the table.even ifil looked a class act.
obviously if we were not to challenge for honours it would be tedious,as the quality of football in that division is poor.
finally playing oxford again would be fun though

Agree Arriba. The problem with relagation is that it isn't always like last time. We can play the big fish in a small pond, but its quite easy to get beached in that pond for far too long.

I'm sure Rovers, O*ford and Bradford fans thought they'd come straight back up too.

In short relagation could be a disaster and one I'm not cotemplating 'til the fat lady sings.

Say what you like about Dennis Wise and Gus but that team was the fittest Swindon team for a long time.

Not just that, but organised too. Every player knew their role, I remember hearing an interview with one of them that said that before a sub came on they asked them what their roe was and how they were to go about it. Also impressed with how they handled Christian Roberts both while at the club and with the Chelsea leg-ends match.

My only gripe was the way they left. Everyone has a different opinion on that and I appreciate the working conditions were dire!

I still enjoyed last seasons failure far more than our division 4 promotion though.

I agree with this! Deep down I think we all want this team to stay up, and turn itself around and get promotion next season...

Wise's attention to detail was amazing. I remember on the Ibiza 06 summer tour watching him writing literally essays during the matches. Very professional guy.

I don't think that if we get relegated that hardly any of the team would stay with us, Douglas, Dossevi, Ritchie, Cuthbert, Sheehan, Ferry, Caddis, Lucas IMO would all leave, not to mention having the Wage Cap in place in the bottom division (Mandatory wage cap in L2 that limits spending on players' wages to 60% of club turnover) which we fell foul of last time and somehow Notts County managed to avoid last season.

Relegation would be very disturbing, even though it is a a reality because we are deep in the shit, but a few wins and we can easily escape it.

Wise could write ??? ...Shorthand I suppose ?

He drew some nice pictures anyway.

Would anyone have Wise back here as manager again?

only with poyet too.

Never going to happen....it's entirely conceivable that unless tonight improves Paul Trollope will be getting a call from Mr F.

In an instant

Yep.

Can you elaborate a bit on that plz. I know Roberts was an alchy but what did he do at the legends game? Something controversial?

They gave Robbo some responsibility by making him vice captain. In Robbo's book, he praises both Wisey and Gus for helping him through a hard time.

Batch means they sorted the Chelsea legends match for us.

Massive respect to them both, always thought that the venom felt towards Wise when he left was misplaced.

Got no problem with Wise/Poyet. But Wise would need a good assistant and I can't see Gus coming back somehow!

 Shame Rotherham lost last night and dropped out of the auto picture....a trip to The New Gay Meadow, or Don Valley Stadium?  Sort it out Millers.

Wise and Di Matteo ?

I would be over the moon if that happened. Highly unlikely though.

Fucking right I would, if we'd have kept him and Gus we'd have won L2 by streets last time until Sturrock came in with his wanky football.

What Dave said. Sadly don't think it's likely to be an option

Wise is not a nice man. He's the late 90s version of todays Joey Barton!

Doesn't mean he's not a good manager. Don't hear people singing Alex Ferguson's praises as a person or nominating him for Man of the Year.

You're a knob as well, doesn't mean you can't do your job.

Martin Ling anyone? Sacked by Cambridge Utd in the new year, did a decent job at Orient, and was in the running before we appointed Wilson. Him and Wise, both Londoners, as a joint partnership, has to be a match to be reckoned with  :hmmm:

our away record is rubbish  :suicide:
                                    p              w   d    l     gf      ga           w    d    l      gf    ga    gd     
48 Swindon Town played 3722 home 985 476 401 3371 2017 away 391 512 957 1994 3334 +14 4238

 Bad day today....Bury lose at Stockport,  Rotherham lose to Scum, and Bradford show signs of life, whereas Barnet look terminal....come on you norvern bastards, pull your fingers out.

League One

Not now Reg!

Or Carleton Palmer eh Reg? :hmmm:

What does Carlton do these days, thought he was well good in that Paddy Power ad?

Living in Dubai...coaching/teaching kids.

^^^^^^^^
This

Just about every other time we've been relegated, I've accepted it because it was obvious we were not good enough for whatever division we were dumped out of.  That will not be the case if we go down this time. I will be pig fucking sick.

Fitton's got him lined up as Danny's replacement. Probably not until the summer though.

Just as long as Big Ron is Director of Football....

I'm already planning a weekender away at Torquay.

I'm looking forward to Morecambe away...

cockle picking?

What other godforsaken shitholes do we have to go to ?

Bit dangerous  :( ...I'll happily eat them mind.

haha! Unlikely doesn't do it justice! I'd be in dreamland though if that happened!

Crawley....and possibly Luton.

That's a bit rich.

:nod:

Oxford. Not even got a proper stadium FFS

still better than our ground.

Oh please, I know we're all down in the dumps but there's no need for that.

Eh? In what way? In it's "too shit to bother finishing" way? In it's "stuck in the middle of nowhere on the edge of town" way? Or in it's "horrid fucking plastic flat pack concrete soulless generic" way? I'll take the County Ground every time, thanks

Don't forget arriba is on the cider...does funny things to your mind.

Obviously!

In no way.

i meant in the actual stadium-ground, not location, is better than th cg.
i'm only on can 3 by the way.

I beg to differ but I guess it's a matter of opinion. Let's agree to hope we don't get the chance to make the comparison in person again any time soon (except for dumping them out of the cup)

I guess you've forgotton the fact that they only have 3 stands then?

just to elaborate....
i know as it's our ground the county ground is special,but if we take the rose tinted glasses off then it's not all that is it?
the drs is very similar to alot of modern stands that aint the bowl type(flat pack concrete).the arkells is an older shit version with 2 fucking poles in the way to piss us off.
the townend is like a shed,and the less said about the stratton bank the better.
so yeah the kassam(cough) is better then the county ground.3 sides or not.
our 4th stand is the stratton bank for fucks sake.hardly ever used

The stands at the Kassam are literally about 20 metres from the pitch!?

You like Colchesters ground anyway.

Location, location, location, as they say in the property market.

The Town End might be small, but it does have more character than the whole of the Kassam put together and multiplied 85 times. Most Pox fans would go back to the Manor given half a chance, probably the shittest ground in the Football League in the 2000's. That should tell you all you need to know.

it tells me alot of fans are stuck in the past.

i loved the shrivvy road stand.it was the best place i ever watched football.
it was still a rusting old shit hole though.

yeah when they had the caged area for home fans next to the bank

I think standing to watch football will always create more excitment than sitting down.

The question of 'better' is not just a question of concrete and plastic. Its about the experience of the fans at that ground.

Besides, as Ive said at least 4 times in this thread already, the pitch is far far too far away from the stands at the Kassam. Its a rediculous half finnished relic.

The CG is not great. But at least it's full of history, tradition and memories. The Kassam's got nothing going for it whatsoever.

it has a lot history unlike that 3 sided shithole, but you are right in that since all seating etc it has all gone, but the same can be said for a lot of grounds, anfeild used to be awsome before it was seated

When I went to the Kassam I found it to be a soulless shell of a stadium whose only redeeming feature was its fence.

I like shit old stadiums more than identikit new sterile stadia. I love big fuck off floodlights. I love shitty old stands and terraces. Give me a wanky old dell over a Saint Mary's any day. In every respect inferior to its modern counterpart, but with about a million times more character.

I know the financial aspects have to trump all thee things in the end. But I like our crappy ground.

I loved accy stanley last time we went. The pub before was quality.

Chips n gravy.

sussex bought me a pint too

I maintain that the way grounds are built at the moment is the way that Board members and executives want grounds built. One day someone will build a ground the way and in a place the fans want a ground built. That day that ground will blow all the other grounds that have been built since the mid 1990's out of the water.

In Germany they listen. Their new grounds are far superior to ours.

The West Ham thing at the moment is completely laughable. Do they actually think they will increase their attendances going to a running track stadium!?!?

No but Gold and Sullivan will trousers many millions of pounds...so what do they care.

If fans want stands etc of a certain type, then they should pay for them as happened with the TE.

The most famous ground in the world had a dog track around it for years...Wembley.....The Shed End fans at Stamford Bridge more than compensated the fact the there was a massive distance to the pitch.

Its the fans who have changed.....many grounds used to have tracks round them....Hull had a speedway track as well i think......the vocal support generally is not the same...of course grounds like ours and QPR are great for watching along with lots of others but just because there is a running track round the ground should not detract from a good atmosphere.

Talking of great grounds, I can't wait till easter monday. Never been to Hillsborough before and it's a proper old fashioned, big ground.

Not forgetting Poole Town's former home, which has a speedway and greyhound track around it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poole_Stadium

Northampton had a cricket ground at the side of their ground ! Not sure what the atmosphere was like though.

Since we're talking unusual stadiums. Here's a top 10. Some outlandish ones here:

http://www.oddee.com/item_97059.aspx

There were a few cricket and football grounds together....Northampton, Bramall Lane, Sheff U and Feethams, Darlo spring to mind.....our CG is possibly the last one, and another reason why it's ace, and should be treasured.

and don't forget Eastville with its dog and speedway track around it.

Been there a few times.... the first time i went in 1979 when we had a sniff of promotion.....the noise from the home end Hillsborough Kop is something i still remember.

Somerton Park Newport, used to have a speedway/dog track around it....I liked going there. There is an outside chance of them coming up to L2 this year....I've been to there new ground, which is in fact a Withdean style athletics stadium, and marginally less shit.

Fleetwood Town would be proper exciting next season.

I was one of idiots nicked in 82 at Newport - not a good night but generally Newport is quite good fun, aLthuogh not been to the new one.
 Fleetwood is a right shithole - I was there a few months ago.

Yep....interestingly(for me) Reg that stadium is on the main road,next to Price the builders ware i deliver.....there is a big old park opposite and a strange run down building that i would like to know was in a former life....will get the name of it next time there.

Never been to Fleetwood....I'd imagine you could still get some decent fish and chips there. Apparently it's home to Lofthouse who make the Fisherman's Friend.

Its just down the road from Blackpool and yes you can get good fish and chips but its a rough old place with some right rough old boys. I'd imagine its the kind of place you would need to be respectful and not take liberties. They're also doing a fair amount uf work around the town which meant that roadsigns were meaningless.
Now nearby Southport on the other hand would be a really good day out if they could make it back into the league. Much more genteel and laidback and considerably rmore affluent.

Ah, that'll be why Paul D had to move away then.

Surprised he didn't move to Fleetwood

Remember games v Southport from the 60's, Eric Redrobe and Terry Harkin....but never went to Haig Street...Fleetwood would be random, not sure where they've come from.

Wrexham would be a bummer never seen us even get a point there on something like 4 visits.

Fleetwood away sounds good. I've never been to Blackpool in my life and want to experience it's nightlife.

I have. Antoine van der Linden super striker.

  :)

I remember going to Wrexham when we were in league 2 last time. Absolute shit hole. Been there 5 mins, walking to pub, and some bloke winds his window down, drives past and shouts "fuck off you English wanker" !

Charming place.

I was at that game, recall we lost 4-3 after being 3-1 up  :eek: We had a good following that day.

^

We lost 2-1 didn't we? Ended the 6 game winning streak.

It's Haig Ave but I wouldn't worry too much about going there - Southport currently struggling to stay up. They're kind of like a West Brom of the Conference/Conference North

Cheeky sod. Although I'll admit I'm more effluent than affluent :)

Of course it has to be that bit posher in Southport...

Talking of old Southport players Reg do you remember one of my favourites Jim 'Pancho' Fryatt?

I know that name, he played in the NASL in the 70's.

Correct think he settled there

I'm thinking of 95/96 promotion winning season. Corker of a game but on the losing side:

30 SEP  Wrexham (Away) 3 - 4 Allison 2, Thorne      Att. 4,296

Went to both those Wrexham games because I was living in Shrewsbury and I agree, they weren't very welcoming.

Well, quite. One does have certain standards to maintain

Which is a bit like saying Bridgend is that bit posher than Port Talbot ;)

Yep, Jim Fryatt finest set of sideburns this side of Robin Friday, not a lot on top mind.

Classic game. I wasnt there. But I remmember watching the goals on Central Goals Special and thinking what a brilliant away following. I think there was only 1 goal at the away end.

Ive only seen us win once at Wrecsam, and that was last season. Been up there about 4 times.

I remmember one game it was so dead outside the game before kick off about 2002 that I keyed STFC in the paint of the home exit gates before kick off. No one noticed even though it took me ages and was massive.

I remember(think) we won when i went in the div2 title winning season.Some reason i thought Wayne O'Sullivan scored twice but maybe alison scored aswell.

Been a few times...went once when the train special was wrecked years back...another time i went first game of the season and think we lost 1-0..............remember Andy Caton playing that game and thinking he would be a good player.....oh well.

too right. Andy Caton, what a wasted talent.

Actually he scored that match.....lost 2-1....to be fair he did pick up nasty injuries.
His dad was quality.

Isn't Caton playing for North Leigh again now ? I know he was at Weymouth for a while.

Last minute from what I recall.

My other Caton memory was in Div 4 v MKD, when Ince played for us, Caton took on half their side in a mazy dribble and was taken out for a pen....Jack Smith scored.

Ok, so well done, you can count to three. But how the fuck can you say the pitch is miles from the stand? Maybe it seemed that way to you on your last, and only, visit when you left empty handed. Toss pot. The pitch is as close to the stands as at your absolute shit hole of a dump.
A local derby against your REAL local rivals is what we all want. But preferably in Lge 1, for all concerened.We've had to make do with Cheltenham, Wycombe and even some people think of Cambridge as our rivals. (not us) If you do go down, - and lets face it, its looking likely now, I can see you slipping out of the league altogether. Whatever you do, get rid of whatever is causing your current form, because you really do not want to drop down to Lge 2. I don't want to see you go through that, contrary to what most yellows fans may say, we need us both back in lge 1, Championship again. We've missed eachother. And you know it. :bye:

We know what is causing our problems but our board don't seem to want to do anything about it!

i look forward to playing poxford again.i aint felt the real bitter hatred at football for a while now.

the amount of people that will come out of the woodwork means the next time we meet is gonna be very messy.

agree muchness

I was hoping to get them in a cup. But if it's league 2 it's league 2. The whole point in supporting Town is that we're lower league.

no the whole point is we are all in it together :nod:

The older I get, the less real 'hatred' I feel to be honest. I used to despise you lot, but things aren't the same without a genuine rivalry. Its been sorely missed for 10 years I know plenty of Town fans (Tans, and Ralphy to name two) but we have decent banter, plenty of piss taking, but its nothing more. It'll all get hyped up before the games, keyboard warriors coming on giving it plenty, but Jesus lads, its a game of football. Theres so many Police at our games at the moment there would be no trouble at the ground. By the way, we'd stuff you right now, I'd bet my house on it. (on the pitch I mean  ;) )

...in it together. You think we can subvert Cameron's "big society" bank funds to bank roll the town to the champions league?

Yeah, and don't we just know how you feel! We're extremely lucky with our current Chairman and owners, but we deserve it after all the trouble we had with Kassam.
I'm amazed at your slide this season. After last year I thought you'd be a threat.

i agree about the softening of hatred as we age.i feel the same,but as its been a while i'm sure there will be plenty of blokes from both sides coming out for the fixtures.
the old bill will have their work cut out as there will be pockets of trouble dotted about, i'm sure.

Fitton is nothing like that joker Kassam

Very true Pie man. I can't bring myself to call our stadium by its real name. Anyway,  Every time I look on here you're on line. Do you have a life outside STFC??

I don't have a life outside the internet.

:fishing:

Good for you, if it makes you happy.

For what its worth, I think you'll stay up. You'll scrap for a few points here and there, and other teams will have their bad patches. Gonna be tight though.

What's your unofficial name for the ground? I've never been. I enjoyed days out at the manor ground. I can't remember the result of the last town game I saw there though.
I did see Oxford v Liverpool in the first division back in the 80's. I seem to recall the scousers won 3-1. Maybe awhile after Aldridge moved, seem to remember judas chants.

No unofficial name. Some call it the United Stadium, some say its the New Manor.

I can't recall us ever chanting Judas at Aldo. I certainly never did. He's the best player ever to pull on our shirt. We generally lost to Liverpool, think we drew once at home though, Ray Kennedy scored an own goal past Grobbelaar  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Out of interest, how many years were you in the top flight?

Re: Judas Aldo. I was quite young at the time. A solitary angry drunk stood next to me would sound like an angry crowd.

Thank fuck as an adult you can zone out the irritants. Especially the dude two rows back from my seat in the don rogers.

I've found a 1-3 result from March 87. Did Aldridge move in the January of 87?

It all fits.  I think y'all did chant judas.

This Alan Maze has gotta be a wind up/alias surely. What a chump!

3 years.

Chump!? Why am I a wind up? Or an alias? I'm an Oxford fan. I saw Alan Mayes play for you in the league cup back in the early 80's. Did you see him play? Probably still a twinkle in the milkman's eye at the time?
How many question marks can I fit in to a post??

7 :D

He's no alias, I know who he is.

Stands are about 20m from the playing area. Bad viewing and its too open, which means it gets very windy. Compare it to how tight something like the Den is (which was a design of the same era). Add to that the awful location. I think its rubbish.

I think you need us a lot more than we need you. STFC were doing fine for the 80 odd years before Oxford had a league team.

Id want to play the Pox if we were a league below, but that doesnt happen very often does it?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not much of a fan of our (rented, just like you) current ground. But having been on the pitch I don't know where you get your 20 metres from. Remind me not to ask you to caddy for me if I ever make it as a golf pro.
Your recollection of history is pretty sketchy too, 80 years? Do me a favour you tit.
We need you? Hmmmm, you need a miracle just now, whilst we don't want the season to end. We'll give you a wave as we swap divisions. :bye:
By the way, my 8 year old has a message: You suck, and Oxford rule.

Yeah get your maths right Spence it was actually 86 years before we played O*frod in a meaningful fixture.

Chuck in the last 10 years and O*frod have been irrelevant for near on 100 years of our 132 year old history

History

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/HeadToHead.asp?Team=Oxford_United&B1=Go%21

48 League games, 8 wins for you. Most 1 sided derby England.

I honestly dont think that Pox fans know that much about football. Thats not just my view, but the view of talking to fans of other 4th division clubs over the last 10 years.

But they do seem to have a lot of self confidence in their ignorance.

We could do with a bit of that at the moment. Although to be fair, when we went down to League 2 a few years ago, the fans did seem to be a lot more brash? Possibly because we had the best attendances in the league.

Spencer, does it smell bad with your head stuck so far up your own arse?
Have you ever looked around yourself at Swindon matches? A mate from work went to see Sheff Weds at your hole earlier in the season. He said he's never seen such a mass of in-bred looking retards at a football match.
We 'don't know that much about football' - yes, its your opinion but Jesus Christ where do you get that from? We've got our fair share of numb skulls and toss pots, but in case you hadn't noticed, Oxford has the most famous University in the world. What's Swindon got??? I suppose you're the voice of authority at your games? Mind you, there's not much to talk about just now I suppose. Its pretty predictable, defeat, defeat defeat, defeat, defeat .... relegated.

We have the magic roundabout. A sculpture of road network.

Not forgetting the old Brunel Rooms and its revolving bar :D

The University!

Everyone from Black Bird Leys goes to Oxford University.

http://www.jasperfforde.com/swindon/7wonders.html

What does it matter what oxford's got compared to Swindon? Surely it's all about the clubs?

The facts are for most of poxford's history they've been shitter than us and when we played them we usually beat them.

Stick your university up your arse, yellow scum.

You're a bit boring aren't you mate? Let's be honest.

That is so good it could have been written by Spacey 8)

Pox stereotype. We are crap at football so lets talk about the UNIVERSITY!!

Its a bit like Swindon fans trying to take credit for Stone Henge.

So lets delete the thread and make it more irrelevant.

...and a pink cow outside their football ground

Haha that's your answer to everything Lee :D

Its cunts like you that mean I cant wait to beat you again

alan maze seems alright to me.good banter.

history counts for fuck all at the moment,even if ours is better.

Yeah hes alright

Good banter? He's already pulled the university card.

He's got nothing left. Besides which, I fail to see what the Uni has to do with Oxford, it's not like the locals attend.

Not only do they not attend, a good chunk of them seem to spend most of their time seething in resentment at the stoodents, and trying to have a pop at them out of bitter jealousy. So, if anything, the University is our natural ally against the cesspit that is Headington Non-Academicals FC

As Oxford fans go, he's alright. Spoke to him a few times in the pub and he's a decent lad.

I'm surrounded by the fuckers so should be a pretty good judge !

Seems like a complete twat to me....having a bit of a go at Spence, not called for in my opinion and not banter and not welcome on the TEF,

With our record over them it is easy to wind up the Pox. As I said they dont tend to know much about football.

Suprised he didnt mention the FA Cup game. Otherwise he would have ticked every Pox stereotype box going.

 :nod: :nod: :nod:

  :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :D

He did mention the FA cup.........

You're right, I did Ralphy! Couldn't resist. Thanks for your endorsements so far, means a lot from a scummer.
Your fellow Town fans can call me a cunt, which is really hurtful, but at least we all support our home town clubs, or in your case a team near where we live. I'd far rather have a conversation with a Swindon fan any day than a Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal tosser. You know me, I'm not interested in aggro or having a go. Its only bloody football. I hate Swindon, yeah, but its just a rivalry.
What I take exception to is a knob head who claims Oxford fans know nothing about football. I'm obviously going to disagree with that. And I was pointing out that our City (unlike your town) is the home of Oxford Uni, so how can anyone claim we are all fuckwits? I admitted we've got plenty of twats and numb skulls at our games, and I often fall out with such idiots at games.
Anyway, decent night for your lot last night I see. First time you've avoided defeat for a while.

It would be interesting to know whether the Oxford/Swindon rivalry has lead to more Swindonians attending Cambridge rather than Oxford.

It would be interesting to see how many local born attend Oxford university or whether all their so called intelligence is imported from areas like Swindon etc.

I imagine most don't attend Oxford. Not due to intelligence but like most teenagers wanting to get the fuck out of Dodge.

I think intelligence will play a big part after all those years of in breeding and an inability to hold a pen due to webbed hands

If you come from Saxton Road in Abingdon you might well support Oxford United, but you wouldnt be going to Oxford University. Same with Blackbird Leys, or the south side of Sutton Courtenay.

The people in Oxfordshire with a chance of going to Oxford University (or going to any university) usually dont like lower league football. To them I dont think OUFC have ever shrugged off its hooligan reputation from the 1980s. This is going to wind you right up, but they are a bit embaressed by Oxford United.

People involved with the university are not OUFC fans, and the fact OUFC fans cant seem to separate the 2, doesnt say a lot for your intelligence.

The University argument is a complete red herring.  Oxford is split down the middle - 'town' and 'gown'.  You've got the University which, for historical reasons, occupies and owns pretty much the whole of the city centre.  And then there's the rest of town...the hinterland that Betjeman once disparagingly described as follows:

'East Oxford, where the works are, beyond Magdalen Bridge, is indistinguishable from Swindon, Neasden or Tooting Bec.'

Oxford townies grumble persistently about how the centre of town is over-run with 'bloody students'.  And most students, in turn, have very little reason to venture outside of the student enclave in the city centre.  There used to be sizeable student communities in certain residential areas, particularly off the Cowley Road, but in recent years the Colleges have got their act together and have built a vast quantity of student accommodation with the effect that few students now need to rent privately.  This has further increased the separation of the university from the town.  The two worlds barely meet, and just about tolerate each other at best.

So the presence of the University has very little bearing on the fuckwittedness of your average Oxford resident.

So the lack of a University in Swindon, similarly, has very little bearing on the fuckwittedness of Swindonians.

99% of people are fuckwitted in my opinion.

That statement is the very essence of fuckwittery!

You have the uni in your town/city, therefore the population cannot be stupid?????? The stupidity of that post alone nullifies any claim the residents (particularly you) might have to intelligence because the uni is there. How many work there? How many study there? How many can even spell Oxford University.

What a fucking idiotic thing to say. Reminds me of a Jack Dee sketch about how every fucker you meet in a Hereford pub is ex-SAS and can kill you with a look.

If it is not beyond you to think before you blurt something out next time, try it. Fucking bopard.

You're very angry these days BR :)

Doesnt the Pox ignorance wind you up then?

Not at all mate.

I just like picking on fuckwits. It's fun and it's easy. :)

Well in that case i shall be logging off soon :D

Meh, not much winds me up, i'm pretty laid back.

Just swap SAS with Oxford scholar. Should work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFTT4Ve8-BE

I quite enjoy the Town/Oxford bitterness, but lets face it.....they are tinpot.

My sentiments too, only in reverse obviously, i.e. I hate Oxford. Note I have also got my kids hating Oxford too, although they have no idea why   :D

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/8861345.U_s_fans_await_sentence_for__Wild_West_style_bar_brawl_/?ref=mr

They were there on a coach after their game was cancelled?

Scummy behaviour!

Thick twats mustve got lost

Last time i looked kettering was up north from oxford and cheltenham is to the west

Sean Keaney, 19, of Outram Road, Oxford, threw a missile.

Sean Bone, 30, from Owens Way, Cowley, threw a chair.

Surely a chair would be classed as a missile?

Not ballistic enough. Bloody good job you work for the Fire Brigade and not the MOD, we've taken enough casualties in Iraq/Afghanistan etc as it is without you sending them up against the Taliban armed with long-range chairs

You bugger

Every one should carry an air to air missile in their back pocket for situations like this

? Takes one to know one, fuckwit. What's with the Bangkok user name? Must be a lady boy.

Wow. I see what you did to BRed then. You took a stereotype from the place in his username and applied it to him! Nobody has ever done that.

Well it would have to be an original post from someone from Oxford - it's because they have a University you know.

I'm left aghast Ben.

There's clearly no comeback against such a keen wit. I mean "lady boy", fuck me that's good.

Oxford going really well atm as well... fucking hell

Yep, the unthinkable leap-frog is on the cards.

 L2 is starting to look a bit more norvern for next season than I'd like....

 The Board need to have a bit of a think about how they're going to approach this manager wise, give the previous lengths of time it has taken to get a new boss, they should be working on it now.

 We've ended up with the worst Div 3 side in my 50 years of support, and it's a side totally unsuited to Div 4.  It will need to be ripped apart and totally rebuilt. I'd probably only keep perhaps 5 players....Lucas, Benyon, Ritchie, LJF and Flint

On a positive note, I've always wanted to go to Morecambe. 

Last time around with Wise and Poyet, they were able to bring in experienced pros like Adi Williams,
Jamie Vincent and Paul Evans.

I have my doubts that whoever is manager next season,would be allowed to go down that route.

You'd keep LFJ but bin Cuthbert?

He won't be here, Cuthbert's contract runs out this summer.

This could very well be a problem, but it's a league for grinders, can't see Caddis or Ferry being suitable, Ritchie has played down there, with a bit of success. We might have to take on loss on those two.  Williams for a while was just the sort of thing you need.....even Jerel Ifil was suited to L2.

We've still got Manks!

Which is why I didn't include him....Manky, is I suppose a possible, but he seems a bit too injury prone these days, I'd bin him.

A Barry Corr (without the injuries) style centre forward is a must.

barry corr scored again today.
14 for the season.infact he's scored regularly since shown the door here

Oh right, makes sense now. It wasn't clear you discounted those who would be out of contract.

Goals or red cards?

A fit Barry Corr was always a good player. Shame he was never fit for us. Getting rid after his million injuries was the right call at the time.

I'm putting Douglas into this category as well....he may  still be under contract but someone at L1 level will take him.

Southend are still skint right?

Chuck in an offer for Corr now!

Well there's one at least that people can't say we haven't replaced. Benyon currently appears to be an exact made of glass like for like

They're so skint, we could get him on loan right now.

I'm ready to concede that playing the Pox next season would be a positive thing.

Won't happen Spence. You're defo for the drop, and we'll go up. But if it does happen, and we meet, I'll treat you to a pint in the bar before the game and you can educate me on the beautiful game, oh wise master, as I'm such an ill-informed, ignorant pox fan.
Have I missed something by the way (probably have, because I know nothing about football) but how the hell is Danny Wilson still in the job? Can't you afford to sack him?

Ah well, keep it up, your recent form is really quite impressive.

I just remembered the ignore button exists. What a nice end to a shit day.

Of course we can afford to sack him, we've just spent nearly half a million on players in the recent transfer window. Why he's still here is anyone's guess.

Oh and make your mind up. Definitely, maybe.

Yes, you'll go up because you are 8th in League 2.

Champions by christmas, etc etc etc.

I dont fancy a pint at Frankie and Bennys either.

Long way to go yet. Port Vale started well but have since dropped to 6th.

I quite fancy Bury or Rotherham for the play offs.

I'm not sure I could take it if we went down and Oxford got promoted.

Well i'm sorry to say it's looking likely unless Mr Wilson gets shown the door very soon.

The question is whether Oxford can get promoted, not the question of whether we are going down.

showing any kind of interest in poxford is a waste of time  :zzz:

Personally I'd rather they stayed down and say Bury went up, but I think the same about Wycombe and the Cobblers...easy games for travel.

History shows us that even if the Scum are in a higher division its a very temporary state of affairs that are quickly corrected.

 Right....that's Plymuff sorted for next season.

I would like to see a much more positive approach from the fans rather than this defeatist claptrap that emanates from the manager all the way down to this supposed supporters site. I am looking forward to a great weekend in Scunthorpe and Sheffield, United that is!

fuck me, your easily pleased.

'great weekend in Scunthorpe'.

There is no such thing.

 Bradford City, could have really got in the brown stuff today when behind at home to Stockport, but they only had 9 men and so lost late on. Barnet had a win today, maybe Macclesfield might yet drop.

 Crawley looking good for auto...

 Going the other...our reserves are starting to look a bit likely...we know Sturrock knows his trade.

  Amazingly Plymuff now look likely to be off the foot of the table in the week, having more or less wiped out the 10 point penalty in a week....this means that Yeovil could get sucked in, although they're not in free fall.  Wouldn't mind Yeovil joining us.

 Chesterfield look certain to for L1 next season, and Bury going well....Wycombe staying down would be good.

The Scum's PO push has faltered, just at the wrong time,but worryingly Torquay showing signs of life.

Now starting to worry a bit about Burton Albion...loads of games in hand, but they keep getting beat, Stockport and Barnet going has to be the best for us.  Edgely Park, Underhill or the Pirelli Stadium, come on you Brewers pull your fingers out.

 The bottom 2 in Div 4 now looking terminal, Chesterfield are up, but then it starts to get interesting....unfortunately Port Vale have blown up, so look likely to be around for next season, but Torquay are into the PO slots...amazingly Accrington Stanley look like they could make it as well.  The hopes of losing large numbers of norvern monkeys, are starting to look a bit sick.

 Last night, watched the first half of Chesterfield v Rotherham...interestingly Rotherham, who are there or thereabouts looked terrible....sadly Callum Kennedy did a passable Rose impression of being good with a dead ball, but a bit shit at the rest of it.

 We're going to enter this league in a very sorry state....

Fuck me, we're already lower in the league than Dagenham, the idea that we could be in a lower league than Stevenage or Accrington makes me weep

What about Crawley, Burton, Morecambe and Aldershot?

I don't think we should be disrespecting any team in this league, we've ended up there for a reason....we're not very good at football.  The issue now is how we're going to stop the rot and start to rebuild...this will need some major decisions to be got right, in the way they haven't this season.

I was only jesting Reggie.

Don't think Lumps was...

It's depressing to think that we will be in the same league as Morcambe, Accrington, Burton, Macclesfield etc next season.  I don't see that as being direspectful to those teams though. It's when people start saying, "Ooooh, we should be beating the likes of Morcambe/Accrington/Burton etc" that disrespect comes into it.

 :( Looks like Vale and Rotherham will be hanging around for next season, with Torquay and Stevenage making late runs for auto....good news could be Accrington Stanley making a late bid for the PO's....only Chesterfield have lost less than Stanley.

Blimey, big bird for these two.

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/8922725.Drunken_Reading_football_chanter_attacked_with_fence_post___two_men_jailed/?ref=mr

 Bummer....Wovers look like they're going to put a fly in the ointment....can see Tranmere going now  :(

 Barnet....could still do it, although hopefully not at the expense of the Cobblers, who are dropping like a stone under the management of Johnson, a man seen as a Messiah here by some.

 It would be a shame if we miss a chance of a new ground at Burton at the expense of another lose at Underhill where we have more of the crowd.

Bloody hell of a result today..Burton 1 Barnet 4..Burton were 1-0 up at half time  ???

I bet everyone's looking forward to playing us

That actually made me chuckle..

but shouldn't we?

We should.

Not just because we are the 'mighty' Swindon Town, no. That's exactly the attitude that the Forest/Leeds/Southampton/Wendies fans have had when we beat them (wow, yes, I vaguely remember when we used to do that to teams...any way I digress) and what I think most of us hate about those 'big' clubs. It's about 11 v 11 on the pitch and who wants it more. Nothing else is of any relevance whatsoever.

But those teams should beat us. It's a fact.

No, we should beat them because the budget put in place will be in the top handful in that division, so we should have one of the strongest squads.

I don't think we should challenge for the L2 title nest year because we're a big club for L2, I think we should challenge because we'll have one of the biggest budgets and followings. It's not arrogance, it's logic.

The table is rarely far from the ranking of budgets, which is why this season has been even worse than it seems.

the budget may well be cut.we may have players under contract for next year on high wages.
i dunno who is under contract for next season,but apart from the likes of bodin,kennedy etc there are some on tidy sums.

Anything less than 1st place and I'll be disappointed.

I'd personally be very happy with any promotion.

It will be cut, but still be significantly larger than a lot of clubs at that level

If we work on the basis we're the 5th best supported team in this division, cashed in on Wembley and merchandise sales, 5600 season ticket holders then we've had one of the biggest budgets in this division and monumentally fucked up. D&R and Rochdale are no fucking bigger than Morecambe, Burton or Aldershot.
Why should next season be any different?

this is true

And is also what makes this season so much of a fucking joke, but it can't be denied that more often than not the table is close budget, obviously with a few discrepancies.

A lot of truths in here.
The scum couldn't understand why they couldn't get out of the pub leagues when they were swimming in cash, compared with the rest of the division.

Good work....hopefully those that think we' should piss on Div 4, might read it and understand it doesn't work that way.  We've got to get back to basics, of good manager, honest players, and a style suited to the league.

I think there will be many changes over the summer so I think it'll look a whole lot different come August. I'll speculate then as to whether I think we can go back up at the first attempt or not.

Massive clearout needed methinks over the summer.

Do we know who is actually contracted for next season yet ?

Lucas
Douglas ?
Ritchie
Caddis
Ferry
Prutts ?
Flint
Benyon

Anyone else?

Misun inaction.

Exactly, I don’t see anyone can say will be certainties to go up or say we might struggle.  We don’t know who the manager will be and we don’t know the makeup of the overwhelming majority of the squad.

How anyone can make a prediction at this stage is beyond me.

I predict DV will moan all fucking season and spend the latter stages telling everyone how this (whatever it is) proves he was right when he said whatever it is he's going to say in July

Well if Greer had stayed it would have been a different story. Hey, why didn't anyone think of that before?

 Hereford and Torquay both deducted points for fielding ineligible players, maybe thrown a bit of a spanner in the works for next seasons league.  Hereford 3 Torquay 1

 If the FA's interpretation of ineligible stretched to not actually resembling a footballer, we'd be right in the shit.

Douglas contract ends at the end of the season however he has a clause in it to trigger another year should he want to which is very unlikely if we go down :-\

Rumour going around is that Ferry will be off at the end of the season but i don't know if that was club decision or player decision

I think "very unlikely" is putting it mildly.

Doesn't the contract state that if he played 25 games this season, the club automatically gives him another year regardless?? I think the only way he would leave would be if the club sell him. The players all have a relegation wage cut clause in their contract anyways. I would love it if he stayed.

 Notts County, haven't got a mention on this Div 4 11/12 composition thread until now. If they are to join us and Plymuff, then hopefully it will be Walsall and D and R who benefit, with Wovers still to go.

Important win for Burton yesterday.....Burton away in early August  :pint:

Was in Burton last week,really still has the feel of an old industrial town and oozes history,always enjoy going there and crossing the River Trent which of course is the reason why Burton is there.

Would rather Barnet stay up. A proper old fashioned lower league ground to go to, plenty of boozers within walking distance of the ground.

DV wont be giving STFC a second thought next season.

Unless we appoint a seriously awe inspiring manager.

....and I will be right with what I say in July!

I heard Ferry is off to Falkirk?
Something must have happened to him this season behind the scenes.

Can we have Christian Roberts, Barry Corr and Lee Peacock player manager ?

My fear for next season is doing a Stockport County and going straight through div 4 without stopping to say hello.  Back to the old negative Swindon Town supporter.

By the river it's quite nice. But the rest of the town is horrendous. Maybe that comes from living half hour down the road for most of my life, but I really don't see the appeal of the place. Like Warrington.

There's an outside chance we could be playing Fleetwood Town next season.
If that isn't a depressing thought, I don't know what is.
Although a weekend in Blackpool could be on the cards I suppose :)

Fleetwood, Luton or Wrexham....easy pick.   Hopefully it will be AFC.

of those in and around the play off spots in the conference i'd deffo prefer wimbedon to go up.

I'm not thinking yet in terms of us doing anything next season...but teams coming up from the Conference are usually competitive.  Crawley will either piss the league or implode in a financial meltdown....AFC could be very strong if they make it.   They'll have the old advantages of Wimbledon, namely vast population in that corner of London, lots of competitive local football and not a lot of competition on the doorstep.

Of those joining us on the way down.... Plymuff hard to call, if they can stabilise, then they could be a force, or they could struggle if finances aren't sorted.

I mentioned it in the matchday thread about Plymouth. I was very impressed with them on Saturday and they were extremely unlucky to lose. If they can keep their current playing squad and sort out their finances there is no reason for them not to do very well next season.

Oi, stop going on about fucking Plymouth, if you love them so much go and fucking support them! ;)

haha. I think I might. Their fans were better than ours as well, certainly less teeny chavs! ;)

Can a mod change Bob's Orange custom title to GREEN ARMY CUNT please?

Thanks :)

Does that mean I get some writing under my name?

How exciting!!

Hehe, hopefully :)

I actually quite like Plymouth, there's a great article about them in the latest Four Four Two mag.
Peter Reid has put some of his own money in and also auctioned his FA Cup winners medal to help keep the club afloat, fair play to him.

Probably explains their players fight for their manager.

That is a nice touch to be fair

Plymouth are wankers. A horrible set of fans who deserve everything they get.

I think you can apply that to most clubs, not just Plymouth.

 Fuck me...Barnet, Stockport and Burton winning has put the cat amongst the pigeons. The likes of Cobblers, Bradford, Lincoln, Hereford and Cheltnumb must be bricking it.

 The thought occurs it could be us next season....now that my friends doesn't bear thinking about :suicide:

Northampton's run is about as bad as ours if not worse, i can see them slipping through the net as their confidence must be shot.

Cobblers away at Stockport on Monday....Barnet home to O*ford.

So.... if Cobblers do go down, would GJ seem like an attractive proposition?

Cheltenham seem to be in freefall - desperately need to beat Lincoln next game.
Hope they stay up - I want an away game I can walk to.

Yeah I hope they stay up as it's a good away day.

To try and adopt a positive approach in trying times
Last year's relegated teams Gills, Wycombe & Southend - all near playoffs and all above O*ford  :clap:
But the other was Stockport who are as good as relegated :(

Now come on Reg. Swindon being the first team to have touched the new modern Murdoch sponsored heights of the premier league and drop out of the league all together, I think you'd quite enjoy that in a quiz question masochistic madman sort of way.

It's a fair point, yet Bradford City may yet beat us to that particular ignominy. Wimbledon of course provide a fly in the ointment.

 So Hereford survive along with the Cheltnumb, Burton and the Cobblers....leaving it between Barnet and Lincoln.  Would prefer Lincoln to stay up.  3rd auto between Wycombe and Shrewsbury...Wycombe have to be favourites, but the Shrews have an easy home game.

Wovers booked in today, and Plymuff still just have an outside sniff, but will need to beat Soton. Losing Barnet and gaining D and R would seem a fair swap.

Conference PO's start next weekend so we should find out soon enough who out of Wrexham Wimbledon, Looton and Fleetwood we'll get. I'd like Wimbledon.

Congrats to Dave Hockaday for keeping up FGR for another season...who despite getting a shocking defeat at Tamworth keeping them up, survived on GD because PaulD's Haig Avenue mob lost.

Daggers or Walsall to come down with us (Rovers and Muff?)

From a selfish point of view I hope its Walsall. Easy away game.

I think most of us are reasonably confident about next year (perhaps not), but then I look at stockport and shit myself....

Hoping for Wimbledon to come up. Would be a good away trip. Want Barnet to stay up as well. The more southern teams the better.

For the Swindon folk amongst us - Mileage from SN1 to other L2 ground...

See you at Bradford, Morecambe, Rotherham and... maybe... Fleetwood!

Definitely

31.20 miles to Cheltenham Town
33.00 miles to Oxford United
39.70 miles to Bristol Rovers
65.70 miles to Aldershot Town
67.30 miles to Hereford United
68.10 miles to Northampton Town
101.90 miles to Crawley Town
122.10 miles to Burton Albion
126.80 miles to Gillingham
127.19 miles to Port Vale
133.69 miles to Crewe Alexandra
136.25 miles to Southend United
145.00 miles to Macclesfield Town
172.17 miles to Rotherham United
207.20 miles to Bradford City
211.53 miles to Morecambe

Maybes ...

64.87 miles to Wycombe Wanderers
75.67 miles to Wimbledon
88.81 miles to Walsall
94.18 miles to Barnet
101.31 miles to Luton Town
103.7 miles to Dagenham and Redbridge
106.25 miles to Stevenage
123.99 miles to Shrewsbury Town
135.72 miles to Notts County
142.27 miles to Torquay United
157.15 miles to Wrexham
160.14 miles to Lincoln City
165.47 miles to Plymouth Argyle
190.90 miles to Accrington Stanley
207.27 miles to Fleetwood Town

Amazed that Crewe is closer than Southend.

Going to Crewe is garbage.

Surely its closer than that?

Yeah... It is, must've put a different number in.

Despite moving away from Oxford, it's still a closer fixture for me than a Swindon game.

Remember going to Crewe and standing at the away end,it was literally a slag heap covered in bits of old cinders etc.
We got beat and that was the start of our season hitting the buffers  ;)

Been twice to Crewe. Both were shit. Just remember DRS telling Jamie Vincent to "play it to feet" and him shouting back!

Ahhh, the bang bus to Crewe... if you remember any of that I'd be amazed!

shudder

Walsall or D&R, who do people prefer for next year?

Walsall

Bit boring though, innit? I think I've been there more than any other ground.

prefer daggers to come down but then Walsall is easier to get to

  On balance, you'd take D and R, might do an R and D.  Walsall on the other hand could be a force.  Now that Plymuff have booked in, its difficult at this stage to see how they'll go next season.

Walsall 100%.

£9 on the train if its a saturday.

I think the cheapest train ticket for me is Bradford City which is about £30  ???

Just can't wait for the scum. Last two times i've been to Oxford been stabbed and bottled by those inbreds. Roll on next season, and look forward to a good away day

...and hopefully a good result on the pitch!

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fuck me, you're unlucky.

Why are you pretending to be a Town fan?

simpleton attempt to stoke up aggro, but ends up found out and looking like a complete poxford retard.

Wouldn't you ?

Believe me this is going to be a much awaited game. Have to say though the hatred of us by the Pox in my opinion is greater than our hatred of them.
We seem to be mixed up with City and Rovers. About time we sorted this out.

There is only one rival - Pox (They are just loving it in Oxfordshire).

Just beating them home or away nothing compares. They never bring a big crowd to Swindon except for the smoke bomb game. (Roy Burton's eyes have never been the same since).

Forever in our shadow just the way I like it..........Since watching Swindon since 1975 never seen us get beat at the CG. however seen plently of wins at their place.

Sadly both games are going to be early kick off's with the old bill from Oxford and Swindon in numbers.
The only real plus getting relegated to Div 2......and crap football.

The Banter has already started and this season has yet to finish. For any younger Town fan or even Pox fans yet to sample this derby it is the only one that matters. COYR's

The two derbies are going to be fucking brilliant. I don't know if its possible but I hope we don't meet in any other competitions before the first league game.

What kind of allocation would we get?

About 3,500 max I'd reckon

3300 minus some serious segregation, so more like 2800

plenty big enough.

Be very suprised if Oxford are given the Arkells and the bank- as it is likely that the Arkells would go all to home fans for this fixture- which would leave the scum on the bank only.

Giving the away side 3500 or 25% of the capacity in this fixture would be stupid.

It's hard to predict numbers but I reckon we could give that max a go, I know we've not traveled well to Wiltshire in the past but our away numbers over the last few seasons are very good. The only thing that might put the masses off is the fear of getting caught up in unwanted trouble, but even with a few fannies staying at home we'd bring a load.

At the VERY LEAST I'd say we would bring 2,000, with the potential for 3,500. I'm not a season ticket holder so a bit concerned that I might not get a ticket for the away match.

There's talk of a temporary stand for the match here but I think it'd be a logistical and construction nightmare so its a no-go at boardroom level.

Neither game will be a sellout, they never are.

Was the FA Cup match not?

Must've been close.

It will sell out at Oxford as their capacity is lower than ours. But at the CG? No chance.

I do wonder if the 10 year wait may boost the attendance. We'll definitely sell out the away end at their place... I suppose the rest could depend heavily on how each team is doing in the league at the time

What herthab said

Not often that I agree with an Oxford Fan.

Like you I can't wait having been living in Oxfordshire all of my life and knowing many of your fans.

 First leg of Conference PO's tonight and tomorrow...so we might have a better idea of who'll we'll get next season...Wrexham, Luton tonight.  Wimbledon, Fleetwood tomorrow.

We should offer them the whole lot. Its not like there could be any more Police costs for this fixture.

It will also stop them selling out and shut them up.

Come on Wimbledon!

1st leg result: Wrexham 0-3 Luton Town.

Really hope Wimbledon go up.

Good news, we can do without a trip to The Racecourse next season.

Yep... We lose tend to lose there even when we're doing well in the league.

 So with Wimbledon seemingly on their way, we could go and get Mickey Mellon.

 Final....should be a remake of the 88 FA Cup semi final...notable for a crowd of 25,963.

What is it with your Mellon obsession Reg?

I know....it's bizarre isn't it ???

Ticks all the boxes for me...young but with a bit of experience, should be looking to take a step up, having been successful with an unfashionable club, and the clincher is Sweatie from the Greater Glasgow area.  I'm sure we all know that as things stand there will be 7 such, managing in the Prem next season...8 if Billy Davies makes it.

No STFC connection...so will come in with a blank sheet.

Not like you to let a Bristol City connection slide though Reggie.

Fair enough Reg. Always had you down as more of a bum than a Mellon man :)

I lived with Fred Ford and Danny Wilson...Mellon only played a relatively few games for them, saw the error of his ways and moved on.

You're twisting my Mellon maan...

A friend of mine does some freelance work following Fleetwood, and I am well and truley with Reg here. On paper, the best appointment I can spot.

Have to say, I'm warming to the idea. On a sensible note for all the reasons Reg listed. On a less sensible side because:

1) It'd send the Adver forums into a frenzied meltdown if we took a manager from non-League instead of Ancelotti/Hullitt/Keegan/whoever their favoured wildly unrealistic candidate is

2) Micky Mellon - got to be a porn name, surely?

Speaking of the adver dwelllers.

Some of them are really pissed that we had some fun with the POTY vote.

:)

Link?

Sorry mate, I can't remember which article it's in, but in todays articles someone by the name of grimreaperswife.... something or other, really took a disliking to the shenanigans. teehee!

No worries. I'll try and hunt it down later.

Crawley are 5/1 favs to win the league with skybet.  We are second at 8/1

Graz has kept Barnet up, what an achievement!

Fair play to Graz.  Job well done.

Yep, would have preferred Lincoln, but fair play to Graz.  D and R join us, and one of Shrews, Torquay, Stevenage and Accrington will go up. I'd like Stanley to make it.

This the one you mean?


http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/9013126.Hoddle_emerges_as_front_runner_for_Town_job_with_punters/

Ha yeah that's the one.

Not as pissed as everyone on here will be when Pericard says he didn't realise the supporters loved him so much and that he's decided to sign a contract extension as a result.

I doubt it would make me go out and get pissed, but I'd probably be pissed off. Sort it out, yankey boy

A good point... well made

We're the last bastions of the Queen's English, Reg, in the face of US McEnglish colonialism. We will fight them on the pavements, we will fight them in the lifts, we will fight them at the cinema, we will fight them in the boots of our cars

Damn skippy!

and we've left the tap running.

We should put these Yankee-isms out with the rubbish, where they belong

Kiss my ass.

:D Don't you mean fanny?

Whilst wearing pants?

Yes, stick a fork in them, they're done.

Quit already.

 So some good news, Wrexham gone, did cause a scare mind, going 1 up then missing a pen soon after.

Yep. I predict Luton to break Wimbledon hearts.

Fortunately your prediction was wrong....so we'll lose one of Stevenage or Torquay.

Stevenage would be a new ground, but we've got to hope they go up and Torquay stick around.

Overall not a bad league....hopefully we'll at least be competitive in it.

I just hope we don't treat our fixtures with Wimbledon as love-ins.

Welcome to the Football League and all that but I hope we execute them home and away  :)

We won't.  They're fair game now.

League Two 2011/12.

1. Accrington Stanley
2. Aldershot Town
3. Barnet
4. Bradford City
5. Bristol Rovers
6. Burton Albion
7. Cheltenham Town
8. Crawley Town
9. Crewe Alexandra
10. Dagenham & Redbridge
11. Gillingham
12. Hereford United
13. Macclesfield Town
14. Morecambe
15. Northampton Town
16. Oxford United
17. Plymouth Argyle
18. Port Vale
19. Rotherham United
20. Shrewsbury Town
21. Southend United
22. Swindon Town
23. Wimbledon
24. Torquay United or Stevenage

Is that the final league standing?

Who the fuck are Bradford United?

Amended. SY, who has never made an error in his life :)

The Bradford, United,will never be defeated!

 Sorted then...trip to Torquay is always good.

Gutted, Stevenage is only 45 mins down the road & with already missing out on Lincoln & Luton it's an unwanted hat-trick.

At this rate, Peterborough will get promoted tomorrow as well & we will have to put up with a load of smug bastards for the next few weeks.

Glad Torquay stayed down, nice close(ish) away game for me!

On a side note, the football both teams played today was shit, if that's the standard of league 2 next season we've got one helluva slog.

To think, Stevenage beating Swindon was once an F.A. {sort of} giant-kill (Championship vs. Conference)  :headhurts:


1. Accrington Stanley
2. Aldershot Town
3. Barnet
4. Bradford City
5. Bristol Rovers
6. Burton Albion
7. Cheltenham Town
8. Crawley Town
9. Crewe Alexandra
10. Dagenham & Redbridge
11. Gillingham
12. Hereford United
13. Macclesfield Town
14. Morecambe
15. Northampton Town
16. Oxford United
17. Plymouth Argyle
18. Port Vale
19. Rotherham United
20. Shrewsbury Town
21. Southend United
22. Swindon Town
23. Torquay United
24. Wimbledon

I didn't want to say that, but nevertheless it's true...got to be that way in Div 4 by definition.

We've ended up there by being shit....and it will need a major repair job to turn that around, I don't think we should be derogatory about the sides in this league, we're here on merit.

The standard was shit in Divvy 4 last time we were there. It won't change next season.

We were shitty last season too! Woo hoo, we'll be fine!

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Too true - we don't want to come across all "Lids United"..... i.e. we're too big for this tin pot league etc.... although in truth we are too big for this league :wink:

Don't worry the Scummers will have it all wrapped up by X Mas

Reg doesn't do 'hype'.

I doubt there's anyone at this moment who expects us to waltz L2, is there?

I expect us to win it.

Ah so young.

We're going into it in much better shape financially than last time. The 06/07 team was awful yet we still got promoted. I'm quite optimistic.

I take your point. I think optimism should be cautious until the squad is at least re-built.

I'm not expecting us to waltz it at all. However, I think thats what the club should be aiming for.

I'm intrigued to see if League 2 will be as poor as it was 5 years ago.

Not so much intrigued as dreading in my eyes.

Of course THEY should... I don't think we as fans should just yet.

2 decent forwards and we'll piss the league.easier said than done getting them though

Let's not forget the Benyon is proven at that level.

As long as we partner him with a big man I'll be happy.

i've heard he is a bit shit.i hope that was wrong info

So far he has been.

Although he hasnt played all that much. I dont have faith in him to fire us out of L2. We need another 3 strikers at least.

True, but not really a factor,  because last time we had no money yet still spent a lot, whereas this time we have some money, but probably wont spend wildly. This means we'll still be limited to the type of player, who'll play in Div 4, because to entice a better class of player would mean paying over them over the odds which wont happen.

For di Canio to fashion a side out of what he's left with and some new recruits that can be in the promotion shake up would be a significant achievement.

He scored goals in L2 though.

Must have done something right

To be fair that was only for 4 months wasn't proven before.

At the time of his signiture Benyon was, in my opinion, nothing more than a panic buy.

Hopefully he'll turn out to be a good one.

But haven't we already enticed a better class of player already? Douglas, Prutton etc. They came here with track records at a higher standard.

Torquay United   2008-09      39   12
Torquay United   2009-10      51   15
Torquay United   2010-11      29   14

Not exactly prolific! Although the last season wasn't bad

Douglas and Prutton came here with a track record of failure and dropping down the leagues.

I hope we storm it as champions and DV misses out watching our most exciting season in years.

I should've learnt by now, been let down so many times, but I've got a positive vibe about next season.
Anything less than Champions by March will be disappointing. Average goals scored per game= 5.
Average goals conceded= 0.333. Points total= 130.

Am I really asking too much?  

You prove my point though....if you consider Prutton and Douglas a better class, then that's why they've fucked off or will fuck off pronto.

It will be difficult for di Canio to get players of quality....not saying impossible just difficult.

As a newbie to the management game...it would have been good for him to come into a settled outfit with a number of decent players available....unfortunately he comes into a train wreck of a side, with only a handful of players possibly up to the job. 

Realistically his first job should be to see if we can get a side that can win a few home games, maybe 1 in 2 rather than going club record times of non winning runs.