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Thought id start one as ive never done one before  :beers:

2-1 win Benyon and Ritchie to score

Crowd 8,231

COYR!!!!!

One day I'm going to fucking remember to start one.

It would be great if Benyon got one straight off the mark if nothing else but to take the pressure off.

I missed out on matchday thread action on Tuesday and haven't really bothered to put my finger into how even the tef fans feel at the moment, hopefully the slight air of positivity can keep up even though we lost.

ha ha 8000? really?

0-0 att 5461

Are we at home or away?

home

Does the game tomorrow really matter that much?

i'd say it does considering how we have done thus far.

you been hiding on a rock recently?  :D

Not sure. can't remember.

I'm in the sponsor's suite today for a mates birthday.

Close game, I reckon 6-1 Town.

Nah, they seem pretty hard to beat, having been beaten only once since November.
Heart says 2-1 win, head says 1-1.

2-1 win, first half we will be awful and 1 down at half time. Second half come storming out and score twice in the first ten mins

0-0

Att: 7,967

Win or bust this time.  No pressure.

0 0

Any win today ....3-1 with a first goal for Douglas.

I hear there is a tap dancing snake for half time entertainment.....Sid Shuffler and his dancing feet.

We come good today. 3–1
Was sorely tempted to come up, but got a pc job on

 
Let me know if you change your mind,i am out at 12 :pint:

As ever I am going to be ridiculously over-optimistic. I'll be right one of these days!
It would be perfect if Benyon can score in the first minute so the fuck heads don't get the chance to get on his back.

4-0 (Benyon 3, Douglas)

2-0 Swindon - AOB and Benyon.

7561 attendance.

Not picking it up till at least the time your starting on the beer Lee, so no chance of a mind change. Start a full time job Monday too. Shit money and shit 12hr continental shifts, but it will do for the time being

Benyon to start? I reckon he will.

:D.....See you at the Saints match then.......good luck with the job.

I think the way we've played in the last couple of matches and a start for Benyon will further galvanise team and fans

These shifts also involve weekends.  >:( Ive not worked it out yet

2-1 Rochdale...

We will win.

If you hide on a rock, aren't you essentially just sat on it?

Have to be positive after the last couple of results. We could have beaten Exeter, we've played some good stuff going forward, and we've got a new striker in. I'll go 2-1.

Of course there's every chance we could fall apart in the first 5 minutes, but I'll try and avoid thinking about that until absolutely necssary.

I chose not to switch my shift today, so I'll be listening, which means we will win.

I just hope we win that's all, I've given up on predicting but i think the crowd will be around  7,600 mark.

0-0

I would love to see Benyon score though, take the pressure off him.

Not going today. On that basis we'll probably stuff them, but I think we'll probably draw again.

I'm all for dipping the players and some of the fans in hot zinc.  Massive game today, our unbeaten record v Dale on the line...it has to go sometime, today could very well be it.

Got to love Keith Hill's bit of psychology, our players are championship players etc etc....it's this players thinking they're better than they are attitude which has got us into trouble. No doubt his lot will come out in difficult conditions and give it some honest endeavour....our lot will probably blame the wind for not being able to parade their sexy skills.

 i think it will be a 1-1 draw.

I think we'll win. We seem to be playing a lot better without Charlie and Benyon's debut could give everyone a lift and hopefully a goal scoring threat. Rochdale are the most form side at the moment away from home though...

2-1, were gonna win 2-1

2-0 win.

3-1, Benyon hat-trick.

First goal is absolutely key.  If we lose today I may have to start to consider coming to terms with the fact we could possibly be in a relegation scrap, maybe.

I'll be watching Sky Sports News doing the ironing....   :gay:

2-1 Town.

Dossevi to finally find his scoring boots and get them both.

Att - 8052

Not sure what to make of this game.
Before Exeter I would of said "We'll turn up, play badly and lose"  But now there is hope, there are little signs of us bonding and playing like a team and not like eleven strangers.
We must stop Wilson fiddling and allow our best team to play a simple 442.
I'm going for 2 0 to us, simply because I live on a different planet.

The first one deflecting in off a flying pigs arse I reckon.

I'm going for blind optimism. We put in a brilliant performance and win 3-0. Benyon gets 2 and Douglas finally breaks his duck.

Read somewhere that Rochdale have never, ever beaten us.

So naturally, we'll lose.

Too much pressure for our jellies,0-1

1-1 draw with Douglas scoring and a 7,234 crowd

2-1 win. 3 og's.

No way will the crowd be that low.

Easily over 7500. Rochdale will bring about 300-400 maybe.

3-1 to the Town.

After what I've heard/read about our last couple of performances, I am a bit more confident about today.
We will win 3-1, Benyon will score and theirs will be an own goal off Manks.
Attendance 7333

It's my birthday, so DW promised we'd win.

Today starts an amazing turn around for stfc. We will not be beaten for the rest of the season now but will sadly just fall short of the play offs.

2-1 to the town with Flint and benyon scoring for us.

Oh, and I'm getting red wined up to the max today so expect some utter bullshit from me later when we lose

Can see a Town win today, feeling confident, no idea why.

3.0 Town, the play off push begins.......

Happy Birthday!

I will be surprised if they bring more than 100 in all honesty, they are one of the worst away supported teams in the football league, under Beamish in the old 4th division for a Saturday game in 1984 they brought 4 fans, not the worst though, that was Hartlepoo who bright 2 fans for an early KO on a Sunday 31st March 1985.

Can't see us having the balls to win. Rochdale are hard to beat. If they're anyway physical we'll lose. Hope i'm wrong. If AOB can carry on his recent form it would be good. Should be fun with the wind flying around - not as bad as yesterday but strong enough.

From what I remember of the away leg their keeper was a bit flappy, hopefully with a bit of service from the wings we can knock a couple in.

Finally everything will go our way and the turnaround in our season starts ! 5-1 Town ! ;D

An interesting quote from a Rochdale forum....

gonna stick with my original thought for this game 3-0 town but i'm concerned this windy weather may turn it into a scrappy game att:7,947 Benyon(2) & Ritchie to score - COME ON YOU REDS !....... Going for a pint now

Hopefully it'll mean we get the ball on the deck and pass it around. Accurate long passes ain't going to happen though.

Fail to win this and it'll be a very daunting week and a half ahead.

A lot of people on here seem to be missing the fact that Rochdale are 10th in the league and have had 6 away wins this season, and, are known for mixing it a bit and some of our lads dont like a physical game.

And unbeaten in 7 games, all of January and February (3 draws and 4 wins).

I bet those fans felt 'exposed'  :D

We must win today and I think we will 2-1.  If we fail to win, we're in serious trouble (not that we're not trouble already, but you know what I mean!)

Yeah but we signed a striker!!!

I did a quick check and yes you are right.

I am wearing my lucky shirt - we will win 6-0!

We do seem to be riding a bit of new signing optimism at the moment. I'm not exactly sold on Benyon yet due to the fact I have never ever seen him play.

The signing of Benyon didn't fuel me with much joy and I'd say that if we were top, middle or bottom and every position in between.

But he's a forward and a bargain at that. I hope he scores a brace today :)

Interesting changes...

No Ritchie or Cuthbert. Hmmmm.

Thought he might drop Cuthbert, for me he's been poor this season.

Bizarre

Big game for Flint then. Ritchie on the bench? No striker on the bench

Ritchie has a bit of goal scoring form lately, I'm surprised he's dropped him. I guess he'll come on for Dossevi at some point.

Rochdale being a quite a tall strong side is probably the reasoning behind these changes, aden flint being 7ft is why he's been brought in.

Matt Richie although good with the ball at his feet, he aint exactly the tallest or strongest of players so hopefully dossevi can hold the ball up well today

2 - 1 town benyon and dougie, its going to a tough game but we have to start winig soon

The last time we gulped at a team selection was Charlton... and that was a far scarier looking selection.

Good luck to Benyon and Flint today.

Swindon Town: Phil Smith; Kevin Amankwaah, Aden Flint, Andy Frampton, Michael Rose; Paul Caddis, Jonathan Douglas (c), Michael Timlin, Alan O'Brien; Elliot Benyon, Thomas Dossevi

Substitutes: Mark Scott (GK), Scott Cuthbert, Matt Ritchie, Alan Sheehan, Simon Ferry, David Prutton, Jon-Paul McGovern

I like that selection. It shows some bollocks. I like the love the look of our wings. Especially with the new found confidence we have in boy lightening.

Caddis was brilliant at Boremuff too, took his goal so well and was constantly putting good crosses in the box, O'Briens delivery was not the best but he still put 3 or 4 good balls in the box, hopey Benny and Dossi will get on the end of a couple.

And the lad Flint......must be the tallest player I have ever seen in a Town shirt, hes towering!

I wish there was an ignore button for the texts on RS

:nod:

2-0 Town. Benyon - 16 mins, 43 mins, attendence 7,381.

Sinking cider and ready for this sea-change in our season.  :beers:

COME ON SWINDON!!!!!!!!!!

Good afternoon fellow exiles. I'm feeling good today.

Gas 1-0 v Brighton

They say that once you hit rock bottom, the only way is up...So am feeling hopefully today.

That's assuming we've hit rock bottom, and that things won't get any worse!


COME ON YOU REDS!

Right, due a win after last few performances, sounds like the crowd's well up for it.  Feeling cautiously optimistic.

Excited about Flint getting his chance. I say we close the shop again today!

Newcastle 0-3 Arsenal 10 mins

Torquay doing OK without Elliot. 1-o Zebrowski

I'm much more concerned that we should do OK WITH Elliot

Sounds like we're doing ok at the moment... I wonder how we'll cope in the 2nd half.

fair point

COYR

Anyone know how Elliot has started? Encouraging?

Only just got in. Missed anything?

Little

Half an hour into the match: can anyone give us a short recap of what's happened?

It's seem to have been all Rochdale since I got in.

Wednesday 0-2 Plastics

We started ok, had a couple of half chances but last 5-10 mins, it has been all them.

Yeah, we're out of the relegation zone according to the beeb's as it stands table

I was rather hoping we would have made an impact by now

Great defending from Alan O'Brien. What happened to the old AOB?!

Ditto, rather flat game by all accounts

Yes, I expected to come on and find us 2-0 up!

Can listen to stfc world today due to lack of proper internet access and leeching off in-laws account.

2nd corner in a row.....

Cleared, back in, Flint header over the bar.

They hadn't had a a look in til you showed up!

Just brilliant. Danny Wilson's a God!

 ::)

Surprise yourself - post something constructive!!

Town look like they might be making a change.

Ritchie coming on...

Egil Olssen would know what to do! ;D

Alan O'Brien gets good gets fucked

Ok:

"I was rather hoping we would have made an impact by now"

Plymouth losing at Brentford.

COME ON SWINDON

Swindon corner.

Bournemouth 1-0 Orient, how do they do it!

AOB off injured. Shame, seeing as he was seemingly getting it together.

AOB Coming off.

Just as he gets a bit good, he's off injured. Great

Gas 1-1 brighton

Yes. But we wouldn't like it. He's just another John Beck

goalkick to rochdale.

commenting on bovril.

That's hardly the same as your negative drivel, is it?

There's a name from the past! Think he's now at Cambridge Utd

He has been injured 80% of his time as a footballer. I can't believe Ritchie started on the bench in the first place. He's been our best player the last couple of games

The plus is that Ritchie in on... Who can score the occasional goal.

Unfortunate for O'Brien though.

Sounds like it's mostly swindon again.

Hopefully we can build momentum through a solid second half if we don't get one before.

We're more a second half team anyway.

Spot on NB

Caddis puts in a quality ball, keeper has to palm it onto the bar.

Flint went to ground but didn't get a penalty.

Oooh, Off the bar.

Oh is he back there? In for Ling? I heard he was at the Cambridge club Histon for some years ago.

I read somewhere that in his glory days for Cambridge Utd he used a young fan at the bench as assistant coach and let the players shower in cold water before the matches.

Danny Wilson needs to throw his team into a cold shower during half-time

I won't. He will just have a cup of tea with Shirtliff.

0-0 HT.

How long since we scored at the county ground?

The last 5 games at the CG have been 0-0 at HT.

Haha hows the reception out your way?

225 minutes (not including injury time)

315 minutes (3 and a half games)

 Nice one Norway Red. Forum Legend  :beers: Are you on the Aquavit and Tørrfisk this afternoon?

Shocking

This is making me weep. Just gimme a fricking goal already...  :cry:

I forgot about the Yeovil loss.... That's like me locking myself away to watch the entire BBC documentary series of The Nazis: A Warning from History plus 15 minutes of DVD extras and there being no goals throughout that entire time :)

Just as brilliant!

correct

Thanks for the clarification.

Exactly. Can't blame us fans for being negative, then, huh?

I wish I was

I'm soon on Mjøsflatkaku however!

And we've not conceded at home for 250 minutes either so there is that!

Was only able to listen sporadically in the first half, we have any clear cut chances? Seemed to hear Flint's name a lot - any review's of Benyon's performance so far?

It's 0-0, we're playing decent so what's with all the negativity? keep the faith people :)

Fairly even first half, although the fact that we have had the benefit of the wind & the fact that Rochdale haven't had a shot on target yet worries me.

Let's hope we can score in the 2nd half for the benefit of NowayRed watching his keyboard ;)

Ignoring norway red makes the match experience on here so much better. Thanks barry.

we look reasonable without looking too threatening.  windy as fuck but we only had a couple of long range shots. 

but at least we look less like canon fodder!

 Nice one. I guess Tørrfisk is more a Christmasy tipple! You should try what i'm drinking, Tesco own-brand cider, makes this shambles performance bearable! Oh, and just found out, Beck resigned from Histon on 19th August.

I'm on olives, hummous and fresh granary loaf. Hardcore.

Full credit Mark, much respect.

Seems to be helping...

Now if you could all stop quoting him please.

Thanks!  :D haha!

Anyone quoting that Finish metal band in here? I missed that!

There are no good ciders with alcohol in Norway. Some pubs have Strongbow, that's the only one

Prutton about to come on.

Who for?

Who is injured? Timlin?

I was just about to post the same :)

end to end stuff.

I think I will join you

Don't know who's coming off yet.... Kevin Amankwah.

Caddis back to right back?

To state the obvious, we need a goal

Amankwaah off for prutton.

Rovers now losing 2-1. COME ON SWINDON... PLEASE!

Goooooal scored by Elliott B..............ennett for Brighton who lead the Gas 2-1.

Haven't got the radio on today, much to mention for Benyon?

Has benyon had a chance yet?

Hilarious.

Bastard :)

Not really no - none of them have

The natives must be getting restless

Benyon just had a skimmed header at the nearer post about 3mins ago. Followed up by Dossevi fucking it up and Rochdale hitting us on the break.

Nice one  :nod:

Waterlogged pitch.

Dossevi offside.

That's uncharactherisitic.

any radio coverage today ??

Quite a lot of it.

O'Grady rounds Smith, but wide.

Smith cocks up and gets away with it. Phew.

JPM on for Timlin.

Has Ferry been shagging Danny's wife?

EEEEEK... We're going to score in a minute or two. Prepare yourselves folks.

anything on line ?

This game feels like it's going nowhere again.

 :facepalm:

Frampton fucks up on the edge of our own box. Gets away with it.

Still Rochdale attack.

The playground bullying is getting a bit tedious now.

Need a goal.  Please.  Just one.

Thanks ben. Im radioless

actually,great was a bit generous.
tolerable was more on the money

Torquay 2-0. Did they know something?

Me 2

Gas 1-3 Brighton

Walsall 3 up at Carlisle.

Carlisle 0-3 Walsall

Tick-Tock...

Finally got player working. Piece of shit.


Benyon's barely touched the ball then?



ooh cleared off the line

Benyon in, but a good tackle denies him. Douglas follows up, chip into box, headed away. repeat. Mcgovern good ball in, headed away. Caddis, rose, forward into the penalty area ritchie finds space, cleared off the line. rochdale freekick.

so close

Good pressure from Town, Rochdale holding strong.

Ritchie! Off the line!

I am looking forward to the 2011/12 season already  :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak

Saved, off the line... Free kick to Rochdale. Grrr

Come on Swindon, just one goal. Please.

Come on town!

Anyone?

I thought you couldn't put admins on ignore.

"Better from the town - more urgency. Come to life for the first time"

7,386

A third 0-0 at home would be mental.

COME ON YOU REDS!!!

Latics 1 - 1 Dagenham

Rochdale score

fuck off

cunts.

get the fuck out you cunt.

Hardly had a sniff. Had no service at all though.

Fuck. 1-0 Rochdale

Oh :(

Ugh.

Oh no.

fucking hell what is going on with this fucking team

5 folk off the correct attendence  :pint:

Fan fucking tastic.

Well, it would have been.

At least we'll have games against Oxford and Bristol Rovers next season.

My glory was short lived FFS

Only 3 goals off the correct score

I'm holding you entirely responsible you jinx cunt

How much longer is Wilson going to get to "turn it" around FFS!!!

Live league table does not look good. Starting to lose touch with the teams above us now.

Like Norway did in 1940, I hold my hands up.

Yep. The amount of games people have in hand over us is especially worrying.

WILSON i've been amongst the most patient, now do the decent thing and fucking resign

any other team and DW would already be gone

So are there any more pro DW here?

You can talk the talk, DW. Can you walk the walk??

Here's a boy who knows his history. Not bad!

Caddis given MOTM

What is the crowd like have they turned on Wilson?

Every cloud :)

True, but it's too late now. A new manager should have come during the early days of january. Now we can just hope that DW doesn't ruin our League One status before he leaves after his contract expires in May

Sounds like everybody has just given up.

"Benyon looks frustrated and unable to get on the ball." "Looks like a lost soul"

FFS

worst performance of the season if anyone can believe that. i really cant see us staying up playing like this

Hartelpool 1-0 Colchester

The Norwegians resisted prior to the occupation as well as during.


I still back DW because I don't see the point in getting rid of him after he's signed a few players and leaving his replacement (who?) to pick up the pieces and not be able to sign anyone until the summer. I can't see any manager coming in and turning this rabble into anything approaching a decent side. Danny's got the best out of them in the past so I've got faith in him to do so again.

but I don't go to games and occasionally listen to the radio.

Absolutely fucking unacceptable. Fucking unbelievable.

Wilson MUST go. Tonight.

Fuming, fucking fuming.

relegation performance

My thoughts exactly. If he was to be replaced, it should have been done so his replacement could make changes to the personnel.

GOAAALA BENYON!

BENYONNNNNNNN

DEBUT GOAL

YES!!!! BENYON!!!!!!!!!!

93rd min far post header. David Prutton overhead kick into penalty area

Sweet. Although a draw still isn't good enough. Time for one more?

Benny boy!!

get the fuck in

fuck yes!

Anonymous for almost 90 minutes and crops up with a equaliser, continue like that lad!

yeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! Elliot, you legend  :clap:

Wilson saved.

 :pint:

Very relieved. Hope Wilson doesn't use this to paper over the gaping cracks though - we need to win a game and soon.

Point well made

Fucking hell Benyon.... you've just saved the chump!

Yesssssssssssssss!

Elliot saves his manager! The sweet story of today

I can't believe I am going to say this: I am happy for a point at home to Rochdale!  :headhurts:

:beers:

Still not good enough, but in the circumstances, i'm not too unhappy.

fucking hell we really couldn't have afforded to lose that.

get in Benyon more where that came from please!

Surely he deserves some credit for signing the bloke?

Full time.

38 Premiership goals today  :eek:

WE ARE GOING UP SAY WE ARE GOING UP!! DU DU DU DUUUU DU DU ELLIOT BENYON!!!

Sorry...  too far.  Come on Benyon, lets have another!

"That doesn't really paper over the cracks" :D

did i hear vic quote you then  ???

Yep, I'll be claiming royalties!

It's a paper crack extravaganza

Hopefully, despite the performance, the last gasp goal may give us a bit of confidence going into to tuesday.

This. We really needed the three points tho

Orient also scored in injury time so they could be saying the same thing.

Newcastle come from 4 down to draw with Arsenal. Ha!

Truly horrible.  Still maintain that a draw was not good enough today.

Looking a little further up the table, we can take heart from the fact we're not all that far behind Plymouth, Yeovil, Exeter and Brentford, and none of those have more than one game in hand. If we can actually get a couple of wins soon then we might get ourselves above a couple of those sides. Need to sort ourselves out if its going to happen though, obviously.

Stacks of games in hand for teams either side of us, deary me

Not denying the fact it's clearly not good enough but I think sacking Wilson now will completely derail us...after all it was his signing that rescued us a point.

bbc Wiltshire on-line back working

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/bbc_radio_wiltshire

Whilst I agree that it's probably a bit late to sack Wilson now I wouldn't lose much sleep if he was to go.

Ditto.

I don't want to see him go but wouldn't be disappointed if he did.

We have the most spineless position.

Not in the bottom four now, that's got to be a plus

I miss you.

And we have a game in hand over Plymouth, trying to find some positives here!

That was shit.

I think our recent form/performances would suggest we are completely derailed...

I'm not bothered either way. I don't think Wilson's department would 'derail' the club though (unless it was a in-house appointment)

Here come the texts....

Not a bad guess all round (apart from Douglas which was blind optimism!)

I was only 5 fans out, so I think we'll have to share today's trophy

except you got the score and the result wrong.

wilson wont get sacked so we better hope there are 4 worse teams than us.

Aren't they the same thing?

The texts have actually been pretty fair, even if written in a 'thisis' stylee. The one saying we need to get rid of Wilson and bring in Ardiles or Houghton did amuse me though. What makes them think they'd want the job??? Living in a dreamworld.

Until the 'Bring in Robbie Savage as manager' message.

Houghton certainly wouldn't but Ardiles given the nostalgia I think would grasp the opportunity.

Just announced that Wilson has signed a new 5 year contract.

fucking Ardilles? why?

The way I see it is that we have potentially got a very good squad and a manager who appears to be unable to pick a team and when he does is incapable of managing them.

I am firmly in the Wilson out camp. Sorry if that upsets some but I'd prefer to be a league one side next season.

Errrrrr Sonic, is that the way to talk about Ossie. Have a word with yourself  :no:

Looking at his managerial record in recent years, he's hardly set the world alight has he? What would he know about English football now?

Wind up?

Yeah. I was hoping I could push someone over the edge. A bit mean, but would have cheered me up.

What a load of shite, first ten minutes we looked the better side and we were unlucky not to score but then rochdale realised we were crap and it was downhill from there.

Our control of the ball is fucking useless, they just panic then either punt the ball up field or lose it.

Why on earth is Timlin starting? Ritchie should of started in place of Dossevi

Ive lost my patience and now i would not be dissapointed in the slightest if Wilson got the boot

They say "never go back" and I fear in his case that'd never be so true, but it does tantalise. For me, perhaps it's my generation, but Ossie is beyond fault, so your description of him doesn't go down well. Perhaps I mis-understood your meaning.

Bring in Danny Williams.

I'm too young to remember Ardiles but I meant no disrespect to him, I just think appointing Ardiles would be a disaster. I think even Martin 'Rabid Mad Dog Cunt' Allen would be a better choice.

A fairly loud 'Wilson Out' chant was drowned out by booing, I think the fan base is 50/50 on whether he needs to go or not.

That was awful, one goal scored in four home matches! Rubbish.

Benyon didn't get a sniff then finished well at the end, fair play to the lad. Flint reminded me of Morrison....a decent debut from him considering the step up.

OK mate, no bad feelings.

I wish Danny Wilson would man up and do the interview so I didn't have to listen to all these fucking texts.

I spend enough time reading shite from Swindon fans on here I don't fucking need it read out on the radio too.

stick all the boo-boys on the stratton bank-cunts the lot of em

and why don't they have callers to really transmit the extent of emotions intead of text shite

Completely clueless. Goal to give away was pathetic, so many chances to clear it and we just didn't. Benyon took his goal well, we've missed someone who can just face the ball in from a yard out.

Fuck nows what wilson was attempting with his substitutions, completely derailed the shape of the side. Timlin was utter gash - what the fuck has ferry done wrong. Answers on a postcard please.

Rose was poor. I think he has a better temperamant than sheehan so can understand why he gets picked, but sheehan is such a much better player. Dossevi was wank. Flint started off ok, though made a few more errors as the game went on. Showed promise, but i'd worry if we were relying on him for the rest of the season. Phil smiths time wasting at teh end was fucking ludicrous 'n all.

I'm not even angry anymore, just dissapointed.

That was pretty terrible viewing, but I refuse to pass any critical judgement on the performances due to the conditions out there.

We got a point, we're out of the relegation zone, and our new striker scored on his debut. I'll take it.

I was thinking the same... Negative texts always sound so stupidly composed, even if they have a point.

Right, I'll start with the positive.

We didnt lose
We scored a goal
Benyon scored a goal
Flint didnt look totally out of his depth.

The rest was pretty piss poor, dropping Matt Ritchie to start with was ludicrous. First half was pretty much a none event apart from the fact Phil Smith managed to throw it out for a Rochdale goal kick!!!

Our only threat was likely to come from Amankwaah/Caddis who linked up well.

Second half, what the fuck? nothing in the game much then Wilson decides to take off Amankwaah (which was stupid) for Prutton (which was stupid) and worst of all he moved our best player and main attacking threat from right wing, back to right back (really fucking stupid) He changed to a 4-3-1-2 for all of 10 minutes before he bought JPM on and went back to 4-4-2.

The first sub and switch of players was fucking ridicilous - what was the point in taking Kev off and moving Caddis back? why why why why why? I didnt get it then and I dont get it now, stupid.

Dossevi worked hard blah blah blah

Benyon was crap, not his fault he had fuck all to work with all game but scored.

Same problems with the squad as there was back in July, another window and still no answers and I doubt Wilson will bring in the right loan players either.

If I recall, it was always the same bloke who rang in every week and said the same thing...

Nothing like giving him a chance, is there?

I thought given what he had to work with benyon did alright. Could be more usefull if he had a decent striker up there with him

Salisbury 2 games from final of FA Trophy, fair do's  :clap: Guess it's not at Wembley?

Wilson interview imminent:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/bbc_radio_wiltshire

There seems be a sense that lots of people have skipped the angry stage and gone straight for abject dejection.

dejaculation.

Here's Danny...

How can Benyon have been crap if he had nothing to work with?

I said that to my mate after rochdale scored. The place just went dead

my guess is kev was injured?
they were big/physical so perhaps thought it didn't think it would suit ritchie's game?

Sounds both difficult and painful.

An experienced hold up man desperately needed - wait for him to sign a kid from the Prem!

Danny Wilson is tweaking.

- Conditions were not good for either team.

- Should've had a stonewall penalty at 0-0.

- Bad luck but 'look at the positives'

- A point is a 'bonus for us'

- Douglas will score soon, maybe... probably not.

- Benyon is a box player and needs something by his side.

- There is frustration because in lots of areas we're doing well.

- Dossevi needs to clean up his game but he's having a go.

- Obika is coming in but won't play on Tuesday because his spell at Peterborough expires on the 7th.

- Orient is a winnable game.

- Flint did well given the conditions, 'coped very well'.

- RE: CRITICISM: "What do you want me to say?" "I'm NOT doing it through stubborness... We believe we can turn this around ASAP"

You missed out the bollocks about 'the rub of the green'

I chose to ignore it.

I don't blame you.

Benyon first debutant to score since Ben Joyce in 2008

98?

Benyon:
- The conditions made it hard for our passing game [haha!]
- It's not the worst result in the world
- Relieved to get off the mark after a not-the-best performance from himself and the team
- Most of our bench today would easily get into the sides of most league one clubs

Sounds like he's caught on to the bollocks-talking bandwagon already. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt - he hasn't had time to realise just how pissed off the fanbase is at the moment with all the we're better than this" talk.

Catch up Costanza

Did you never hear Brian from Faringdon? That's why

Ah ok, sounds like a bad apple, but shame for the other fans not to vocalise their discontent, in a way it's not possible to articulate on text!

do you listen to the texts?

I wouldnt want fucktards like that articulating on the phone.

  I take this as a good point....keeps the unbeaten record v Dale, which is worthy of a few beers tonight by way of celebration...Flint did OK, and Benyon scored on debut, not easy trying to rebuild a side short of confidence in a relegation battle.

 As for mongs going on about Houghton....presumably they mean ex scummer and sometime pundit Ray Houghton?

Wilson must go now. We have the players and have a bigger budget than most clubs in this league but wilson cant get them playing anywhere near their capability. Douglas and ferry were one of the best midfield pairings in the league last year-another example of wilsons incompetence

Chantelle.

 :D :D

I was really looking forward to this after the Exeter performance, but feel a bit deflated now.  Dossevi was utter wank, but no striker on the bench.  He was even responsible for their goal giving away a stupid foul in their half and on the touch line.  He tries hard, but like Pericard he cannot really cut it.  Thought Benyon was quiet but he obviously needs a big guy to work alongside him.  Liked the look of Flint although he made a few errors towards the end, put that down to nerves and tiredness.  Just couldn't udnerstand the substitutions, unless it was injury related.

WTF? He really doesn't help himself does he. For the record, thought Flint did well in coping with a big step up in a difficult game he could easily have gone to pieces in given the shite all around him. And given how little Benyon had to work with (he was dropping back into midfield most of the second half trying to carve something out for himself), he did all he could. Scored with the only half-chance he was presented with, can't ask much more than that. Just heard him on the radio and when asked if it was any different from League 2, very diplomatically talked about conditions making it difficult for us to play how we'd like, sure it will be different on Tuesday. Which says a lot about how we played today - like a League 2 side.

And finally, a big hand (in the shape of a clenched fist) for the idiots around us who started booing the side before the 90 mins was up. Fortunately, such was the courage of their convictions, that one shout of "For Christ's sake, at least wait till the bloody game ends" marked a return to the usual low-level moaning.

Now snuck above the drop zone on goals scored, and then only because Tranmere's game was abandoned due to waterlogged pitch - I was hoping we could have the game abandoned due to a sewage-logged pitch. And not much better in the stands either. Utterly fucking depressing.

Had no idea who she was, but definitely a decent rack, are they natural, don't like implants, and would definitely rule her out of the job in my opinion.

Surely that's an example of his competence?

No clearly Douglas/Ferry last season was nothing to do with Wilson.

not this season!

If Thomas Dossevi is so much of a waste of space and still playing, I can't believe DW can play Billy Bodin up front in stead.

The only criteria to play of front for Swindon now seems to be the same criteria that Mexican Red has for women: pulse

 :soapy tit wank:

Think that is up there as one of the worst performances ive seen from Swindon.

Dosevvi is absolute wank. Kept on fouling the oposition.  Rarely made any good runs.

Timlin doesnt seem to know how to run.  Quickes he ran all game was when he was substitued off.

Flint looks like another defender who cant actually pass a football and will result in Jerel Ifil hoofballs.

Frampton shouted a lot and tried to organise the defense, but also made a couple of big cock uos which better teams then Rochdale would have punished.

Not sure why Ritchie didnt start from the beginiing, as at least he tried to run with the ball, and made a couple of decent offensive passes.

Wilson needs to go as cant see the team staying up based on that utter shit performance

 

Billy Bodin is not match fit.

Who is?

Kev turned to jelly for about 10 minutes, I think bringing him off was to prevtn a defensive implosion given the fact that the ball was likely to be coming at us with some regularity in that 2nd half.  Games in such wind are always shit as a spectacle.  There was a point in the 2nd half that Timlin knocked the ball forwards on a run but the ball stopped and began going backwards.

Dossevi needs replacing, that's for sure.

JPM seems like he has had his legs replaced with those of a dead man.

Ritchie may well have been unlucky to get dropped but was mostly gash after he came on.  ONly reallt got involved with about 5 mins to go.

Thought Douglas set the tone for the performance today, started ok, got more and more ragged as the game went on.

Well done Caddis, there is a very good player developing in him.

Benyon - lets see how Obika works with him.  The lack of someone upfront to hold up play and bring others in may be the biggest problem, became a real issue in the 2nd half today with the wind being in Rochdales favour.

Overall, expected it to be shit, it mostly was, we didn't deserve to lose, can't argue with a point.

So, are you saying Billy Bodin is dead?

The side that played today.

Agree with this 100% and anyone who still 'has faith' in Wilson turning it round is either a blind optimist or severely deluded. All I can see him doing is taking us into League 2.  

I feel too dejected to go into the game in any detail, but the words woeful and poor spring to mind.  Too many changes to the team yet again and the substitions (AOB aside as he was obviously injured) beggared belief.  

I can't see where a win is going to come from. 7 points out of the last available 30, 4 points out of the last 18 at home tells it's own story.  Elliot Benyon has probably kept Wilson in a job with that goal.

I'm sticking with Wilson... So there.

Dont think we have much choice in that respect. I think if he was going to go it would have been early January at the latest.

Didn't think Mex was that fussy tbh

Just back.

This was not as bad as people make out. We were reasonably solid but were lacking any real cutting edge. Rochdale offered no threat whatsoever, other than their goal.

We got what we deserved, a point. Is that enough at home, probably not,. But clearly Rochdale were not just going to come and roll over.

Of the new boys Benyon looks like a goalscorer but just that. He isn't going to offer a lot oter than in the box. Not that this is a bad thing.

Flint we'll have to wait and see. Not a bad debut given the level he has come from, nearly made a couple of fatal mistakes but got away with them. He'll get better.

This is in no way related to his performance by why the hell was Cuthbert dropped? I know we have a few games this month but why?!

 :clap:

To DW he probably is

Never been called a blind optimist before so presumably I'm severely deluded.

I think this season was a write-off from the start, losing Greer and Paynter - arguably not Wilson's fault - and the constant rumours about Austin meant we would never go anywhere. Not saying I'm satisfied with a relegation battle but I'm not sure what some people were expecting when we effectively weakened the side instead of strengthening it. Wilson has attempted to replace Greer and Paynter but seems influenced by Fitton's desire to buy potential and sell for profit instead of expensive and experienced hence the signings of players like Flint and Misun, the departures of Morrison and Austin.

But then again, he's persevered with Pericard and Dossevi so perhaps he does deserve the boot.

Wilson had to change something, we're conceding too many. Maybe he thought we'd be under pressure quite a lot in the air so put a big lad in?

Much though it pains me to say this, you are right about that. Although I did say this earlier in the week so I'm counting this not so much as you being right as catching up with me late :)

Each to their own, but a genuine question for you - what makes you think that a) he's going to turn it around and b) somebody else couldn't come in and get the players we've got working as a team?

Jesus Christ we must have watched different games

I first said it in 2002, so there!

Conversely, I'm still not sure anybody coming in would get them playing as a team...

We never looked like winning the game. That was the shit part.
We never looked like losing the game (up to the goal), that was the good part.
i.e. we easily matched Rochdale.

The wind was always going to wreck any nice football. And it did.

Which bits do you disagree with?
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re: the substitutions - I think Wilson was trying to bring on our more creative players since we create about 2 shots in 60 minutes. Didn't really work for me.

Did you see Dortmund - Schalke 04 yesterday?

All i can say is that i have seen enough.

Today was shocking.................love the Town....probably drank to much.

No passion,no earning the money......no way back.

I like Danny Wilson.......but it is time for a change.

No.

Fucking lightweight

If Wilson is sacked tomorrow there is absolutely no guarentee that anyone could come in and 'save our season', it could go either way whether it's Paul Bodin or Gary Johnson.

There is an assumption that a new manager would come in and automatically get the team winning, what if this doesn't happen?

I'd like us to appoint lady manager or a computer manager AI. Either way it will be fucking ground breaking.

Well, there you go. Now that was windy - and a great game of football!

I think we need to appoint an employment manager to start with!

That was utter shit.

Then we're playing League 2 football next season, which is exactly where we're heading now anyway.

As proved more often than not when a manager is sacked because the team is hovering around the relegation zone, a new manager seems able to come in and provide the momentum to string enough results together to pull them free of trouble.

Now that's a match analysis in my eyes! Honest, simple and straight to the point!

 ;D

That was absolute shit - the second half in particular. I couldn't pick a MOM other than their number 8 who would be brill alongside Dougie in our midfield. I thuoght Flint had a very good first half but a poor second. Saying that he was infinitely better than Frampton who was bollox today. Dossevi really is a fucking retard - his footballing intelligence is worse than Ifill. Benyon did what he's paid to do - put the ball in the net, which he did with fuck all service. Their goal was another defensive shambles started by a dumfuck unecessary challenge by Dossevi.
The movement off the ball was shocking today - some players were hiding. We really are a team very short on confidence and played like one today. This team is going down.

Prutton creative?  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Just browsing the OS, I love this picture from the game. Double header!

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Just plucking some vague opinion out of the air, doesn't make it a fact. Evidence please.

The most bored I have been at a football stadium in my life, and I am including visits when a match is not playing! Sounds like the only good thing was our goal, I was already half way down Drakes Way by then.

I thought Flint looked promising, the rest can fuck off!

Danny Wilson 2009 :)

 :nod:

I agree with Reg on the whole though.

The 'honeymoon' period isn't guarenteed.

My day went as follows; woke up drunk, left coat at house because i was still drunk, £15 train ticket, £2.80 pie n chips, £16 townend ticket, utter shit for 90 minutes and freezing cold, left 4 minutes early to catch train back and missed goal. Fuck you Wilson but thank you chip man for a nice pie

I like this post....what i was trying to say.

Did i mention that was shit. Rose and dossevi wouldn't have got in a sunday team on those performances. Great subs again danny.

That was poor. The wind didn't help but we needed to play at a high tempo at the start to take advantage of the conditions...but we didn't, and we had to rely on an injury time equaliser to get a point. We should've had a penalty minutes before the Rochdale goal.

i feel sorry for those with season tickets.they have to go in hope of getting some value for their money.
the gates are going to drop significantly next season,unless something drastic gives them reason to renew.


samdy,update the prediction league.i wanna gloat.... ;)

Can i please add timlin to this list? He makes me angry.

What has ferry got to do to get in the team? Has he corned wilsons wife or something?

Agreed.

Then we'll have a good season, they'll all come back and purchase their season tickets and then disappear when the going gets tough/dull again.

That's their choice, I understand it.

A good campaign in L2, will see gates rise, Wilson has got good experience of getting out of that division...

He hooked it in for our goal :)

I'd like to think that if we were in L2 next season that Wilson wouldn't get the chance to leads us out of it. As it stands thuogh he has every chance to lead us into it. Walsall are picking up a fair few points now that they've changed managers. Thankfully it hasn't worked for the Gasheads who could only beat a pile of shit like us.

Gloat away.

Actually a study in the late 90's/early 2000's proved the opposite. Damned if I can find it now.

edit:

Actually it said that there is a short term gain but 12-18 games later the "honeymoon period" is negated and in fact you end up getting fewer point per game than you were with the old manager. i.e. you are better off sticking with the old one.

http://www.wbs.ac.uk/downloads/news/2009/10/what-is-the-impact-of-changing-football-manag.pdf

Yes, but he's not a creative player.

I don't really known what he is, he isn't a defensive midfielder really either. He's just shit.

Aside from that being utter garbage, I'd like to single out Michael Rose for being a pathetic excuse of a footballer. Utter shit! Still haven't forgiven him for that red card the other week.

Hmmm the league situation is certainly getting worrying now. In the last 7 games we've had some good performances and no one has played us off the park but no wins and just 3 points is clearly insufficient.

Hopefully we can get back to winning ways on Tuesday against Orient, and maybe now Danny can let Ferry out of the naughty corner? Surely whatever he's done can't be that bad and I really think we look a better side with him in the team.

Gets into the box and is more attacking than Timlin for me. Ah well, we'll have to disagree.

He can create but I wouldnt call him creative if that makes sense.

I dont think he was anymore creative than Caddis was down the right.

Fucking hell, tranmere have 3 games in hand

Suprised Ritchie made the bench today as i was told he's been trying to shake off the flu this week. Our options up front are really threadbare and the sooner we get a couple of strikers the better.

Benyon did alright for his 1st game. The service he had was poor and he definitely needs a stronger player to work off of to hold the ball up for him.  Obika is a good player with pace but he isn't a player that can hold the ball up like Pericard.

I thought the weakest 3 players on the pitch today by far were Dossevi, Rose & Frampton the latter being robbed on the edge of the box was just poor sloppy defending imo. His distribution seemed to find the opposition everytime too as did Dossevi's passing, i just don't get how a player like Dossevi just doesn't read the game properly, he's either offside, can't time his runs or just doesn't watch where the ball is being passed.

It was never going to be a classic today the wind was bad but if i'm honest we didn't take advantage of that in the 1st half.

Overall Rochdale were just as poor as we were but they seemed to want it more & quite easily could have because our lack of creativity.

That's the way forward then, sack our useless manager (you know the one that saved us from relegation two years ago & got us to the play-off final last year), and replace him with that Danny Wilson bloke.    SORTED  

Worrying times, and I think I'm glad I didn't make it up

one word for that today Depressing

Agreed, I'll rephrase.

I think he brought on players more likely to win us the game. We lost a bit of shape/robustness but did look like scoring for a short spell in that second half. Personally I'd rather that than try nothing and settle for 0-0, we need to be winning our home games. Sadly it didn't work.

Wilsons subtle tactical changes when brining on prutton left me gobsmacked.
At one point we seemed to be playing the christmas tree formation with dossevi and ritchie playing of our 5'9 target man up front

As previously mentioned Rose looked awful, he seems magically able to run himself into a cul de sac where he's got fuck all of an option but to hoof it.

I'm sure I'm not alone in being bored of having their saturday afternoons ruined by our shitly performing loads of players but when you add fucking idiotic refs into the mix it's just turning into a "well i've got a season ticket, i guess i'd better go" mentality. today's one wasn't horrendous for either us or rochdale, he just came out with some utterly baffling decisions

still, only a few wins and we're back up in the play off places

Damned if I can find either of them now, but both the BBC and the Grauniad had articles on this around Christmas. They found that of the clubs that had sacked their manager over (I think) the past 2-3 seasons because they were trying to avoid relegation, around half went down anyway under the new guy. Which is kind of inconclusive but certainly doesn't suggest that bringing in a new manager automatically guarantees you stay up as per the commonly held myth among fans and pundits alike

We had a formation?

Glad he's still a fucking useless piece of shit, shows there is some consistency... worst fullback since Cobian

Out of the 11 starting, only 2 of them were regulars last season.

God knows what Ferry has to do, I would be feeling very pissed off if I was him. What has he done wrong?

You came up with a couple of gems today bennett.

Keep it up :D

We'll I'm clearly going to be a contrarian. I didn't think Timlin was that bad, especially in the opening 15 mins, trying to spread play, get us moving.

Flint actually worried me more and more - I think the reason Frampton got into trouble on the edge of the area was he was terrified of giving it to Flint with people closing him down about 20 yards out - he'd already given it away three times in dangerous positions when not under massive pressure. I might be being too harsh to someone thrown in stepping up three divisions, but he looks like some project and not a quick solution. Which we need.

Caddis was encouraging, and I thought Ritchie brought something extra when he came on though god knows why we tried that diamond formation for 10 mins.

The defending of set pieces cost us another goal, like Tuesday and I think we are on our way down unless:

1) Obika proves to be a strong striker who can keep hold of the thing and take some pressure of us.
2) We defend free kicks and corners properly.

Morecambe's a new ground though.

Quite. I think Ferry must have shagged Mrs Wilson or something.

Sheehan doesn't seem to get a per-longed run in the team either. Though he kind of divides opinion on whether he should play anyway.

i'm sure of it, you think it was coincedence smith in the keepers kit and gloves was near the goal all the time?

will do

Sheehan has been very inconsistent but is still a better option than Rose. We were warned about him and fans of his past clubs were spot on.

If O'Brien is a pro footballer because of his pace, Rose is one because of his free kicks. Defensively inept and it says something that he stood out as shite in a title winning Norwich side.

Just home after a two hundred plus mile round journey....Never felt as deflated driving up the M5 in the 19 years I have lived here..what should and could have been a great display of new signings and three points we looked awful

Why is Ferry not playing? why was Amakwaah taken off?

The one thing which bought a smile to my face  was from a guy on the DRS.."come on, I can play better than that.....and I'm fat" !!! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :clap:

I wouldn't play Rose or Sheehan at LB. Rose is defensively as bad as I've ever seen. Sheehan is not much better particularly when he's up against pace. We would have been better off signing neither but signing both was fucking stupid. I'd rather give Kennedy a run with LJF as back up.

Some good news Poole Town beat Fawley 3-1 today

Not such good news for Brock leefer

New Milton Town  2  -  1  Brockenhurst 

1) Obika proves to be a strong striker who can keep hold of the thing and take some pressure of us.

Unfortunately Obika isn't that type of player, he's about 6 foot, plenty of pace but has the build of Jermaine Defoe. He does knows where the goal is though when given the opportunity.

Can't be bothered to read back. But a few points.

-Flint did well considering it was his debut.
-Apart from the goal I don't think Benyon offered much. But if he played shit and scored every week I wouldn't mind.
-Rose=shit.
-Dossevi was awful. But he did work hard.
-Smith was dodgy in goal.
-Douglas needs to stop doing the first time outside of the boot pass. As half the time it doesn't work.
-Prutton was very good when he came on.

Fair result. Should be winning games like that though. I was very impressed with their number 7, Gary Jones. He ran the show. We need a player like that.

We had a player like that last year. douglas

No we didn't. Jones has got 14 goals from centre mid this season. Douglas got 0 last season, and has got 0 this season.

We've had eight managers in the last ten years including six in the last five and where the fuck has that got us?

We sack Wilson, appoint whoever, a soon as we start playing badly, have a shit season we sack him and we start all over again.

Managers need to be given time.

Look at Moyes at Everton. He came in saved the club from relegation, next season they finished seventh, the season after that they had an horrendous season and finished 17th then the season after that finished 4th and by and large since then have been consistently in the top eight.

Chopping and changing managers lead to nowhere.

I can't be arsed to read all this thread, but i'm guessing everyones having a good moan?

Well your point has changed,you said a player who ran the show which is what douglas did last season.

Meh.  For today, and for the season.  We've massively, massively underperformed, for which Danny has to carry the can.  It's fucking gutting after last year and so frustrating.  We've got quality, but also some really average players and our best ones are off form.  We just seem to be rotating an under performing squad.  There has to be problems in the camp.  We need a clear out.

Performances have been OK lately but results haven't been.  If we don't get 3 points soon the discontent will grow, and more and more will join the Wilson out brigade.  A run of defeats and a majority Wilson out crowd chanting loudly will see him sacked I reckon.  He won't resign.  He never does.

I honestly don't know about Danny anymore.  It ain't working at the moment.  I'd give him until the end of the month.  If things haven't improved by then, they never will.

You never had a point in the first place.

I haven't read the last few pages but has sippo come on to moan about people moaning yet?

I haven't read the last few pages but has flammableben come on to moan about people moaning about people moaning yet?

Woe is me.

What the fuck are you on cola.

i agree. what had been a lot of pages of vaguely intelligent arguing has been brought down to a level drs feels comfortable at! booo cola

Are you criticising Jonathan Douglas' Player of the Season contribution from last year?

I might be wrong, but i don't think anybody cares about Poole.

I'm sure they've got their own forum.

It's Coca not Cola. Ron Dogers Supermarket.

No just highlighting his goalscoring contributions to prove a point to DRS.

But your point was needing a player that 'ran the show', which is what Douglas did last season. Which is correct and therefore makes DRS correct, right?

Had you said, "what we need is a central midfielder who can dictate AND score goals" then yeah, you would be right.

well reffed that man

This.

Two left to join another club, one resigned, three were sacked.

Not saying we deserved three points, but the ball was rolling when they took the free kick. Would be nice if we could have a dodgy decision in our favour one day.

NO! NO! NO!
If even a fraction of the stories I heard about his time at Cheltenham are true he would be a disaster.
Not a road we even want to contemplate taking!!!!!!!!

Well sorry your majesty. Next time I'll send off a draft for you to check.  ;)

Christ! People don't like facts to get in the way of a line of argument do they? Read that and it sounds like Swindon are positively QPR-like in their approach to team management.

In fact, in the five year period you talk about, we've had five full time managers, only two of which were sacked, Malpas and King. Ignore the 5 month hiatus for the Terry Brady inspired ludicrous flirtation with Roy Evans, and Andy King was given over 4 years in charge of the team.

Which leaves Malpas, who was clearly a mistake. Anyone think he should have been given more time? .... Thought not.

Hardly a history of chopping a changing and sacking managers at the drop of a hat is it?

And your David Moyes comparison is just fucking stupid. Moyes manages a club that has been closer to the bottom than the top of their league for transfer funds available and wage bill. We're easily in the top 5 or 6 richest clubs in our league.
Do think Moyes would have survived the couple of seasons just avoiding relegation at Liverpool, Chelsea or even Spurs?

For this league we spent a proper chunk of money in the summer and more in the window, and are only outside the relegation zone because Tranmere can't seem to get through 90 minutes of football at the moment.

Wasn't iffy sacked too?

That was painful to watch. I worried about the wind, but to be honest the game was very even.

Another extremely poor afternoon's entertainment at the CG. Wish I could have come in the ground on 75 minutes, because the rest was a waste of time.

Crowd was deadly quiet. Depressing.

Apart from a couple of games, just the norm since December.

I was well impressed by the formation flying of the litter across the DRS - most entertaining

That'll be because every time they slow it down and put their foot on the ball half the fucking crowd scream at them to "GET IT UP THERRRE"

I didn't go yesterday so I'm not in anyway trying to defend the performance - it sounded woeful.

I just hate our fans.

The 'we always get shit refs' thing is past a joke as well.

Ha, Spuddy has told the players what he thinks of them on twitter. Its quite entertaining

On another note, yesterday was fucking dire

I hate fans who moan about fans. there were a few stages the fans got behind them. we are being dished up total inept performances and its got to stage now where the fans need lifting as much as the players. At this moment i dont trust these players and wilson to get us out of this shit.

Well that was very dissapointing it has to be said. I thought we were very poor and I thought Rochdale probably deserved to win. I don't remember us creating much and Benyon had no service all game. The midfield was just non existent. Just as well we got the goal at the end but to be honest a draw at this stage wasn't good enough.

I thought Dossevi was utter shite. I don't know why some of our fans rate him because for me he's dreadful. He's always offside and hasn't got a clue when he's got the ball. His touch was utter crap again as well. Timlin had a poor game and so did Frampton and Ritchie when he came on. I must say I really didn't understand Wilson's subs yesterday. Why take Manks off and move Caddis back to RB as it was working well until that point and Caddis was the only real bright spark in attack for us. To make things even more confusing he decides to put Prutton on at RM instead of just bringing on JP. What was all that about? For me Timlin had to go off sooner and Prutton should have gone in at CM straight away. Really bizzare.

And finally the league table. Doesn't make for good reading at all and teams have plenty of games in hand on us now sadly. We've got 3 away games in a row now and for the first time this season i'm genuinly starting to believe we will go down. At least we might get a trip to the Kassam next season. Fingers crossed.

Have'nt read back, so here goes...

Piss Poor overall. Swirling wind.  Had a sweep in the car back that Wilson would state the conditions were terrible in his after match report and he never let me down......Shame that Rochdale created 3 clear cut chances to score in the first half an hour, otherwise this 'excuse' might of held some water....

Only positives for me were Flints contribution and Benyon scoring on his debut.

Flint looked very comfortable and Benyon...well.....scored...and we didnt buy him to do aything else did we?

All the rest didnt look like they had played with each other before...it was utter dog shit.....Rose kicking the ball out again FFS....

Sorry Dos, i love you but you will never ever be a striker...better as a wide midfield man to me. I did laugh when a deep cross came in and he went backwards as two Dale defenders attacked the ball to clear...hopeless.

Prutton came on was solid and really chivvied us up and in my book thats a disaster cos i hate the prick but fair dos to the bloke he seemed to want it when he came, something lacking with the others.

More baffling subs from Wilson, i despair.

Dale must be pissed off as we were there for the taking.

This is relegation form my friends and fuck knows how we will get out of it!

Giving Orient a miss this year....so we will probably win...cmon Town.

See you at Exeter....

I could only on the radio, why was Amankwaah subbed for Prutton?

Because we changed formation. As I said on another thread, it did make things happen, unfortunately at both ends of the pitch.

Oh ok, don't recall them mentioning that at any point. Just assumed Cadds dropped back.

Caddis did drop back and we lost the overlaps on right wing that we'd had in the first half.
The midfield did need boosting and bringing on Prutton helped there.
But given the ineffectiveness of Doss why not have taken him off instead of Kevin and tried 451 with Prutton pushing forward from midfield and Ritchie and Caddis attacking on wings?

Yeah that's exactly what I thought was happening when they said Prutts was about to come on...

I don't agree with you there. I thought they were as poor in attack as we were. For me a draw was a fair result.

Not sure what's happened to me this week. I'm usually pessimistic.

I left with about 10 minutes to go which is the first time I have left a game early since the Malpas days. Neither side were playing good football and the game was utterly depressing. The fans have given up too - most I have spoken to are sure we'll go down.

Wilson, Fitton and even the players are living on past exploits and need to fucking realise we're in a very dire situation.

As Reg guessed it probably was more of an opinion than fact, although I do feel I had read it somewhere once.

On the basis of the above though, it seems as if we'd be better off sacking Wilson and getting someone short term to see us though until the end of the season then getting a permanent replacement in the summer?

No idea.

He came on, Caddis went to right back and Prutton played right midfield. Then 2 minutes later we went to a 4-3-2-1 with Ritchie and Doss off of Benyon. Then went to a 4-3-1-2 with Doss back up top - then after all that we took off Timlin for JPM and went back to 4-4-2 but with our main attacking threat and best player at right back instead of right wing.

Utterly baffling. Could have avoided all that bollocks by straight swapping Prutton for Timlin, leaving Amankwaah at right back and Caddis right wing.

Same. Some of the cunts around us do my fucking head in at times! We generally take the piss outta them to lighten the mood, but jesus....We have more than our fair share of fucktards, that's for sure.

The game was poor yesterday, but in those conditions it's never in a million years going to be good viewing.
We had a few chances to put the game to bed in the first half. Benyon missed a guilt edge chance, when all he needed to do was connect with the ball and it was in. JD and O'Brien both blazed over when they had time and space inside the box etc etc....A few positives here and there, but overall, poor.

Ho'hum, roll on Leyton Orient.

YOU REDS!

Iffy was a caretaker to the end of the season. No need to sack him.

My understanding is that Iffy Onuora was officially our manager.

He was but I think Lumps is right in that his contract to do so only ran until the end of the season. So in that regard, he wasn't sacked, he was parted company with

We still have had eight different managers in ten years! It's not worked has it?

I don't think a club can be successful if it changes managers often, I really don't.

You have to build, have patience and ride the bad times. Stability is key.

If you have a good league manager like Wilson you have to have faith in him.

How good a manager is Wilson though?

You've got to look at his record and see it's very up and down, Ok he got Barnsley promoted to the Premierleague and got Hartlepool promoted from League Two.

However he bottled it bigtime at City and failed to get them promotion several times.

He took Barnsley and Wednesday down as well as Franchise.

He's never got a team out of this league, When it comes to the big occasions he bottles them that's what his history shows, Good enough manager for quite a few teams in this league but he's always bottled it when it comes to the crunch and looking at the Play-Off Final you can safely say he bottled it again, We were absolutely awful and didn't show up!

I'm not saying he's a totally shit manager but he isn't that good either, There's better around.

To be fair to Wilson at Barnsley he took them up and tbh honest getting relegated with Barnsley from the Premier League isn't really a failure is it? With Franchise he was with them at at time where they were still in transition and still at the old ground. He kept them up the previous season but couldn't manage it again.

He did well at City even though they didn't get promoted, they got to the Play-Offs 2 years running.

He's by and large a good manager, whether you think Swindon could get somebody better is your opinion. Personally I don't.

Managers don't bottle it, players do.

With maybe 1 exception, Kevin Keegan.

even if he manages to keep us up i still think he should go

If he manages to keep us up then we will challenge for the league next year.

Agreed. I see no reason why we can't.

I don't think you can safely say that at all. In fact, I'm struggling to think how a manger could "bottle it" for a one-off final, unless you're suggesting he hid in the laundry basket and refused to come out? You can argue the players bottled it and that the manager didn't do enough to prepare/inspire them, but to say a manager bottled an individual game just seems ludidcrous

You know what, I think the biggest single thing that has made the difference between this season and last is 2 words and rhymes with Moredon Beer.

When I think back to the occasions we were not that great last year, even ropey, weak and seeming to lack fight, him being missing was a often the common denominator. It pains me to say it and I struggle to completely understand why, but I believe it to now be true.

Spot on. You build from the back. Defensively we've been shocking this year. We have scored more than enough to be at least in the top 6.

that has been evident since august.

I laughed out loud when I read this.

I dont think we'll challenge for the league under Wilson, even less so when we wont spend money on experienced players. Just young players to sell on, I already expect Matt Ritchie to have been sold on by this time next year.

Agreed however that isn't Wilson's policy to change is it? Fitton wants to spent the transfer budget (fees) on the younger players.

Never said it was - but its holding us back.

We needed leaders, experienced and proven in League One players in the window, all we got was 'future profit' players

To be fair that argument is pretty flawed. Wilson has signed experienced players but just in the total wrong positions or they are in general just pretty shit.

Lucas
Douglas
Frampton
Prutton
Pericard
Dossevi

Just a couple of examples of older players that wilson has been allowed to sign even players like sheehan and rose have a vast amount of experience.

I would say the problem is deeper than that and out issues are down to wilson not sticking with a settled 11 and by that i mean during games aswell.

All freebies though.

Which is no good this time of year as there are alot less out of contract players.

To be fair he did say in the window. Problem with that is where do you buy experienced forwards from? We have at least got a couple com(ing) in with some league experience rather than none.

How is that flawed if the list of players you have stated were all free transfers?

Every single one of those will be on massive wages so a transfer fee is irrelevent imo. Don't get me wrong i have said myself that the buy young to sell for profit in a year won't work.I read your post like fitton wont let wilson sign any players unless they make a profit when he clearly has signed experienced players.

Fitton will let him bring them in, no doubt.

It doesnt seem like he will let him spend money on players who wont turn a profit.

I think Fitton wants Wilson to bring in experience decent free transfers and spend whatever the money (fees) on good young up and coming players which in the future we can sell on.

I sometimes think it's difficult to find experience fee transfers who are of a good standard and that we can afford wage wise. Players like Douglas are very very rare.

age and experience is irrelivant.the ability to do the job properly is what matters.

We wont recoup our money on that one methinks

Of course it is. Experience players are vital. They have to be of good quality, of course.

Agreed, decent player for this level but can't ever see him progressing any further.

I dont know, you dont know. All we have is hope.

But I do know to keep us up from here we will need damn good form, and that could form the basis of a really good team next season.

I bet you were down on our chances of challenging for promotion this time 2 years ago as well.

Since when were we a club that spent fucking money anyway.  It's bizarre to criticise a policy when the only difference to the past is that we now do spend some cash on players.  Whether we like it or not, the club is not a charity, it has to find a way of coming at least close to break even.  £3m losses each year end up in companies going bust eventually, please see the current state of Plymouth.  It makes sense to only spend cash if you think there is a half decent chance of getting some back, especially given the amount of players who run their contracts down these days.

Benyon has played over a hundred games, in non league and league two.  He started at Shitty, so was originally thought potentially good enough for this level, and his experince over the past 4 years is showing that is being realised.  That to me is a decent amount of experience and we paid cash for him.

It beggars belief that people think the transfer policy is an issue.  We've purchased more players in the past 2/3 years than in many seasons before.  We got an experienced central midfielder after years of whinging by fans on forums about how we needed one.  We've had two belters upfront, we may have another.  We had the best defender since probably Culverhouse here, and granted, we didn't replace him quickly enough.

Our problems are not about transfers coming in, it's one or two that went, for understandable reasons and realising that they were hard to replace with the same quality.  That and not having a settled team.

It's been a shitter of a season so far, make no mistake, but we've signed a shed load of players.

 Mr RobertT, spot on.

Yep...you put a load of shit on display in the shop window....you wont get people walking in the door.
Fact is.....Henshall,Greer,Paynter,Cox,Morrison,Revell,Marshall...all been released in just over a year...yes we have signed some players...but only to replace what we have sold...but dont kid yourself we have more or better players this season...we dont.
Bad luck and injuries dont get you down the bottom....other factors do.

The idea that we lack experience just isn't true. Lucas, Smith, Amankwah, Frampton, Rose, Sheehan, JPM, Timlin, Douglas, Prutton, Pericard, Dossevi.

All have plenty of league experience.

Add to that Danny Wilson - one of the most experienced managers at this level.

for me the problem is Danny has lost the dressing room, there seem to be big divisions in the team and no matter the experience or quality the players are not playing for themselves or the manager. This has to change in order for our results to change.

Where are these divisions in the squad? I keep hearing this and I just don't get it.

Henshall was not near the first team...we don't miss him at the moment.
Marshall may have been liked by some but he never performed with any sort of consistency.
Revell was not good enough for us last season. Charlie Austin came in and proved he was better than what we had.
Morrison was never Mr Consistent. He hardly made our defense good this season.
Paynter had decided to leave. There is no way with our crowds that we can afford to give one player £8k a week. Our only mistake is thinking Dossevi could replace him.
Cox gave us two great seasons and deserved his shot at a higher level. He left with dignity and not with the Austin/Beckford-esque lack of class.
Greer is the disappointing one. Never replaced and it was expected of Morrison to step up who couldn't.

Can't argue with that, If he has lost the dressing room there's no way back and things won't improve until he has gone.

Some of the players must be really pissed off with Wilson, For example Ferry, He can't even get on the pitch, Players keep getting dropped and switched around and there's way too much tinkering, I bet it has damaged morale and caused divisions in the squad.

To be picky Cox's goals were replaced by Austin and Paynter. Henshall never played for us, Marshall was sub standard and Revell was surplus to requirements (last season).

Its the Paynters and Greers (and Wards) that we haven't replaced. But things seem to go a bit deeper than that. We rarely play a settled side, chopping and changing. Key players from last season like Sheehan, Lucas, JPM and Ferry can't recapture their form of last year or are being frozen out.

In short this has been a dogs dinner of a season.

(But I still think we have looked better in recent home games in that we seem to be forming a solid base to build on. We just need to balance that with a cutting edge that has clearly been missing).

Is there any evidence of this 'damaged morale' and 'divisions in the squad' though? It keeps getting mentioned, mainly on thisis and I think its now snowballed into the arena of accepted truth.

My main issue is with who he tries replacing players with. He has dropped players left right and centre this season then randomly throws them in and expects them to slot straight back in.Off the top of of my head

Lescinel
Cuthbert
Morrison
ball(scored a couple on the bench the following 4/5 games)
Rose
sheehan
Kennedy
Amankawaah
Timlin
Ferry
McGovern

That's 11 players ffs 6 of them a key factor in last seasons success but for one reason or other Wilson has seen fit to swap and change them week in week out.

Wilson and us fans moan we want some consistency but we won't get that if we swap around every week.

Not really sure what sort of evidence could be provided really although i suppose one win in ten may be enough evidence in terms of damaged morale

Dammit, that wouldnt stand up in a court of law! I need hard facts...

I heard that the unsettled dressing room relates to back to the Charlton away play off game. Wilson tore into Greer for getting sent off and the players couldn't believe he did that after they had battled to get to Wembley. This contributed to the flat performance in the final and that the dressing room hasn't been right since then.

Of course there are other factors, not replacing Greer and Paynter adequately and trying to accommodate all his summer signings Prutton, Ferry, Caddis etc and other players dropping their performance levels on last season. The chopping and changing hasn't helped and has made the inconsistency worse.

I particularly liked the 'YOU'RE WEARING TIGHTS!' comment towards Dickinson, that Bennett said. Made us all chuckle.

Can't beat his 'Fuck off.....purple!' comment from a few weeks ago though....Pah! (You had to be there...)