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Joining Southend on loan

leaves us short at centre back should greer or cuthbert get injured-suspended

I'd imagine we'd have a recall clause.

yeh we must be able to recall him becaues we have no other centre half

Oh no! Wait! We have Aljofree!!!

although i dont get the aljofree hatred isn't he still not 100% fit.sending morrison out on loan is stupid imo.

Could this be related to their imminent administration and a deal for Revell?

So we've done a deal that says we'll pay the salary (so you get a free player for a few months), but you give us Revell.

link?

Morrison for Revell,mmmm-no ta.

LJF prefers CB to LB so there is cover there, if he gets game time but is still in our plans then I don't see him going on loan as such a bad thing really, maybe trying to soften the blow for us nicking Barnard in Jan?

I'd swap a million morrisons for Barnard in complete and total honesty

Barnard? Delusion on an immense scale.

Doesn't seem like a bad idea, he hasn't been playing here.

:)

They don't want Revell we'll get him for nuffink anyway.

He is playing for them at Yeovil tomorrow  :cry:

OMFG are you a girl??? do you like being done up BOTH holes etc etc????




If i can be serious for a second though, i find it odd that he'll playing tomorrow if nothing has been announced from either camp yet

Ahh, the never ending amusement at actual ladies on the internet. Ladies who make sure they get a reaction by pointing out that they are not men in their usernames.

It's a crazy crazy dance.

I'm still bitter that my date with toni never happened.

The Irony is that i've gone my entire 3 year career on this site a 6 ft busty blonde with no male botherers at all.

All it takes is a clever name girleys

Fancy going out for a drink one night Dave?

You bet you hunk-a-junk xx

Ooooh. I'm giddy with excitement.

 :eatkf:

We're going out for dinner too? Can you pay? I'm a bit skint.

I'll make it up for you in other ways x.

I'll pay for the meat

And two veg?

Im actually 13 yrs old school girl and what does "do you take it up both holes" mean please? never mind i will ask my Dad who a rugby player for Navy Services  :D

kinky

Genius. I like you.

I asked Daddy and he said something about tearing you a new bum hole Dave  :-[

You'll fit in quite nicely on this forum - well played.

tee-heee

Not if I get there first.

Very Kinky.

Very interesting news.

Thank you for sharing this.

Shows how good the lad is that a team on a par with us are taking him on loan.

A bit behind Cuthbert and Greer for now but we'll benefit from him playing games.

Should of sold him in the summer really as we will get hardly anything for him in the summer

If they get injured over Christmas ?......

Is this actually true?

dunno. haven't seen it in any proper news, but then I don't really bother to look anymore.

Guess we'll find out later.

Definatly true he is playing today

http://www.southendunited.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10444~1874593,00.html
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~1874741,00.html

On official sites now.

not really a fan of loaning players to divison rivals, we want them to leak as many goals as possible, not help them bolster their backline

Maybe this is part of the negotiation to bring in Revel come January (Rightly or wrongly).

Chances are we wont get him in january anyway due to him being shit.I reckon unfortunatly this has more to do with Morrison wanting to leave and us realising to get any sort of fee he needs to be playing.

Good experience for him and going to this level means he is used to it, it all helps his development - and as for recall there is not usually a recall clause in the first months loan only in month 2 and 3

revell is shit,morrison has potential.i dont get it at all why he's gone to southend.

i dont get what all the fuss is about? we have a player in Morrison who is good enough for this league currently, we have 2 better centre halfs than him in Greer & Cuthbert, so why not loan him to a club who are playing at the same level to get him some games? it helps us in the long run, hes still learning and will make mistakes so why not make them at another club whilst improving all the time, he wont improve playing reserve team football

i know what you are saying but he could get injured,greer or cuthbert could the same.then we would short in that department in either case.he's knocking on the door of the first team here.i dont get the need to loan him out. especially to a club in our division.

but if hes only playing reserve team football he wont be at the top of his game when called upon, as for injuries he could get injured playing ressies games or training, thats not really a valid arguement

read my post, thats my concern

At least he will be getting some games under his belt.

Any one else slightly worried that we may actually sign Alex Revell in January?

7 months left on contract, fee in January, free in the summer, shop window?

thats the only reason i can see as it doesn't benefit stfc in any other way.infact it could backfire bigtime

its not free in the summer though, hes under 24

It does have a slight benefit. Its better for Morrison to be playing Saturdays that sat on our bench.

When he was playing regular for us he looked decent last season and this season to. I watched him a few weeks back against Plymouth reserves and he looked rusty and a yard off the pace. Almost like he'd just come back from month and months injured. He must have let Plymouth in about 4 or 5 times.

He'll be a better player in the long run if he's playing regular football, which we cant give him right now. If we had 4 or 5 centre backs loaning out an 18 year old would seem like a perfectly logical move.

Happy it's only a loan but won'r be happy if he's gone in January. We have no cover for CB if he does. And no before anyone says it I still think Aljofree is shit.

The fact that it's to a team 2 points behind us and the fact we cant recall him til january.Greer has been a little of the pace the last couple of games and Morrison should be playing for us and pushing for a first team spot not helping our rivals push up the table.

The more i think of this the more it seems he is just playing so we can get rid for more in january rather than end of the season.

We definately can recall him before January as 1 month ends on the 14th December.

He's been sent off apparently.

HAha suspended for 3 games thats pretty much his loan up!

good start, thats 50k of the selling price.

Ooops, professional foul. He'll be back Monday then!

It is a strange one givin the comments DW has been saying about us having strength in depth and with us still in the FA cup...Morrison is a fave of mine and i dont want to see him leave,also of course theres a real chance he could get a serious injury which is not what we need if Greer or Cuthbert gets injured.

And Morrison get's sent off on his debut - straight red for pulling back his man in the box

Guess that's a 3 game ban then, might as well catch the train back tonight.

My first thought too!

Good work agent Morrison.

Professional foul is only a 1 match ban.

straght red was 2 i thought

It's a 1 game ban for a pro foul, while it's 3 for violent conduct and serious foul play. If it is a second sending off of the season, an additional game is added.

ooops

Just seen the sending off. Don't think Sean can have too many complaints tbh.

I think Danny needs to appeal   :D

Casal had his only half decent game for us at centre back didnt he.

The 'reserves' are playing Salisbury in the Wiltshire Sheild and low and behold Casals name is on the team sheet, shocked.

I hope you're not implying Casal may be in any way likely to get a game for the first team while Morrison is out on loan. If he does at any point during the month of Morrison's loan period, I will find where Wilson parks his car and personally poo on his bonnet.

he played a full 90 minutes!

i almost wish i'd been there to witness this

Hasn't he been injured though

According to Wiki, Morrison has played 4 games now. Any idea how he's getting on or is it a forgone conclusion he's off and it matters not?

I don't think he will be sold - unless he wants to go, he's not likely to get 1st team football here while Greer & Cuthbert are fit...but it only takes 1 of them to get injured though and he has to take his chance

I'm quite sure that all of the games Morrison has played in for Southend have resulted in losses for the Shrimpers.

I thought he went to Yeovil?

He got sent off at Yeovil

Yes, but then 2 of those were against Charlton and Norwich, and they have lost 7 out of their last 10, so I wouldn't blame it all on him.

Has extended loan til end of Jan now. Swindon career over?

Or it could continue come February.

Wouldn't have thought so, he would be playing if not for GG and Cuthbert doing so well. Just valuable game time. Whether he wants to extend his contract here though, may be a moot point.

I reckon we will move for someone else in january.As much as i would like to i can't see no future for Morrison here.

Is he even that good?

Better than what we had before GG and Cuthbert got here!

It's experience for him, how many games has he played for us ?

Experience at anther L1 club is valuable, the reason he will go is if he will not sign a new contract, as when he returns he can put pressure on Greer & Cuthbert for their place

i think the club want to flog him

No

Morrison is a fine young player, he had a couple of dodgy games for us in the past 12 months but also a couple of outstanding games and the added bonuses come with a young defender like Morrison, when we are on the attack - he is very dangerous in the box and of course that flipping long throw.
He has a decent career ahead of him.

What dell said.

Gawd, some of you lot are so quick to write people off. :doh: He's 18 and already good enough for league 1, and he'll get stronger and wiser. He's exactly the type of player we keep or sell on for a minor mint to a bigger club in due course.

Morrison is already a good player he just needs to learn the tricks and discipline that will make him a very good one. Cuthbert is probably the most saleable asset we have and the one with the age and profile (in scotland) to make the move up. Surely sean would be more likely to be his replacement?

The thing is Morrison has been courted by bigger clubs for the last 12 months.At one point people were saying he may aswell learn his trade here instead of sitting on someone elses bench.Now he is probably better off sitting on say evertons bench than he is swindons

what with 6 months left on his contract, being out on loan and not a single mention of contract talks (for any of our playera I might add) it seems like he's a dead cert to leave.

Got a mate in Sarfend who just rang and told me that Sean got MOTM award yesterday, as a huge fan of his i wonder whether he'll be back  :)

I hope not

http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/showthread.php?t=56794

Oh and just saw this thread too

http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/showthread.php?t=56787

Money worries? Erm OK then.

They would have seen the St. Modwen article and assumed we were in big trouble again. Did the clubs ability to sort that issue out even make the press?

Morrison will probably go but it won't be to a club like Southend United. I'd predict that he'd go to a higher ranked Championship side...

We still need Morrison on call if Greer and Cuthbert get injured, I imagine he's on 24 hour recall at the moment.

No, that's what's so annoying about irresponsible shit like that Grauniad article - they're more than happy to run with a big splash about how we're about to be wound up when it's patently not true, but then don't even acknowledge the "Winding up story in crock of shit shock" follow-up. Which leaves the casual reader, which unfortunately includes the wider football world, with the impression "Oh, Swindon are in the shit again". Which impacts our ability to attract players/affects the club as a business etc. Wankers.

I doubt anyone even vaguely important thinks we're broke, just fans at other clubs that don't really pay attention. There is no way it would put other players off or affect any transfer negotiations as those people will know the truth. Still, we're not exactly flush with cash though are we though admittedly we're not desperate to sell.

Really? You reckon players are that much better informed?

I reckon we should recall him from his loan - our defence are shit and getting worse

and adding a panicky 18 year old to the backline would help?

Probably not, but as we'd go through the chairman or agents I'm sure they'd fill the player in and if they didn't then Fitton / Wilson would. Besides do players really care that much? Its pretty rare for them to not get paid with the PFA stepping in to cover wages if they have to.

Yeh, Greer and Cuthbert are at the heart of our troubles right now and need replacing.

I reckon Greer's form has dipped a bit over the last few games, albeit not an Ifil depth dip. He was partly to blame for a couple of the Rovers goals and one of the Orient goals. Maybe a rest would do him good as he ain't getting any younger. The problem is though that we ain't got any cover at the moment other than LJF.

There's always Aljofree  :D

Greer's form has dipped but I suspect hes not over his injury and is not playing at 100% fitness right now.

Greer remains up there as an early season favourite with JD for player of the season. We'd have gone down last season without him shoring us up at the back. A 'dip in form' Greer is still pretty much the best player at the club.

Played a 60 yard cross field ball to Sheehan last saturday. When was the last time we had a centre back who could do that? Glenn Hoddle, thats who, no it wasnt Gurney.

It lobbed their left midfielder and Sheehan ran on to it. Brilliant.

You know, I almost thought I imagined that after hearing the dolts behind me slagging him off.

We've got to pick on someone haven't we...

 greer is slow as fook but is a tidy centre back.no way deserves to be dropped.

When Greer hit that pass, did you actually think great ball? Or did you think, you fucking twat what was the point in doing that? I thought the latter and reckon most of the people stood around me thought the same.

Greer seems to have been a bit out of sorts over the last few games or so, maybe he just needs a week off. Still better than what we had last season, but not as good as he can play.

Yeah....what's wrong with Gazza or Ralphy?

Reg, I've been working in Chipping Norton this week, no sign of Ralphy or Tans come to that.  Reckon he's emigrated to Walsall!

I actually thought it was a great ball straight away, and I think a lot of others would have thought the same. Maybe it depended what angle you were watching from?

Yeah i often think players are twats for playing great balls.Stupid cunt

Fwiw i thought great ball, you could see from the off it would hit our player.

Johnny you didn't sit in the DRS last season did you, around seat 75?

Neither play for Swindon.

Ralphy is probably snowed under with bloody Christmas cards!

I never said it wasn't a great ball, just that it didn't look like one when it left his boot. Must have just been the view from where I was standing, I was pretty low and near the goal line.


Nope.

Jonny seems like one of those armchair pundits you get in the pub. Tolerable for a while to the point where you find yourself agreeing, but then it just turns into farce and they start talking bollocks.

Are you sure that's not just your perception as you down more beer, Sam? I find that the longer I spend in the pub the more everybody seems to be talking bollocks. Particularly me.

You must spend a lot of time in pubs?

Serious boredom kicked in, so I checked to see how some of our loaned out players were doing.

http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/showthread.php?t=56794

That was the other week, Southend lost their 7th straight away game at Exeter today (Corr got sent off)

I really hope we dont swap him for Revell.

No chance.Today highlighted what a strange decision it was to loan him out imo as we could of done with him when it came to Amankawah going off.Also Greer is struggling at the moment and i really think he needs a rest.Someone pointed out earlier to me that Greer has played basically every week since coming back from a long term injury so maybe a rest is what is needed

Morrison is at that age where he needs to be playing football. I'd fully understand that decision if it didnt leave us so short.

Aljofree has been injured ever since Wilson got here so I have no idea if Wilson rates him and whether he'd be called upon.

Again, I hope to god there isnt some sort of Revell/Morrison swap deal.

Given that Wilson has already said Sean's not going anywhere, I think this is a pretty pointless discussion.

You honestly think that a player who in 3 weeks time can talk to other clubs and is on loan to another team might not be leaving?

Isn't that rule (discuss / sign pre-contract from January) only for international transfers?

Yeah, like Celtic, who were interested in the summer.

Fitton / Wilson haven't said anything his contract have they? Makes me wonder if there is an extension in his contract that the club can exercise, or if he might have signed something. Otherwise it seems a bit strange for Wilson to be saying he's not going anywhere.

Wilson's stalling on contract talks with players :/

He's not stalling. He made it clear in an interview a few weeks ago his reasoning for not opening contract talks just yet.

If we're still in this division (Wich is likely) he wants players that can help us get promotion. If, in the unlikely event, we gain promotion, he wants players who can help to keep us up.

Very few of our players are Championship calibre. What's the point in spending money increasing the length of their contracts if they won't figure in his plans next season?

....because someone else could offer them a contract and they could agree to sign it, not give a fuck for 6 months, play poorly - we will slip down the table and not even keep the decent players we have now for a promotion push next season.

We should already be talking to Austin, Paynter & JPM.

 From a Southend forum,Looks like Sean is doing well, be good to get him back in form, and give GG a rest.

Morrison: Class. The best defender at the club, and his only 18. Would love him to sign in January but can't see it happening. Good consistent match winning everything that was thrown at him. 9 and MOTM

Will come back a better player,good management by DW and the club...glad hes doing well..hes been a credit to Swindon Town FC in my opinion.

There's a few deluded souls on there that think we might swap for Revell, fnar fnar!

Anyone know when he is due back? No defenders on the bench today and Greer looks like he could do with a rest.

Think it got extended to around Jan 14.

timlin was our only "defensive" sub at charlton as well though i don't think we should change the backline for the sake of it (other than sheehan for LJF)

Dont think we will swap for Revell...but i still think Wilson will try to get Revell on the cheap,i for one think he could become a decent player...he was superb at Brentford and i think Wilson will go for him.

I'd be very surprised if a fee changes hands for Revell, they paid a low fee for him and their chairman called him useless so I'd imagine they just want rid. I still think he'll make a decent addition to the squad, as cover or something a bit different when needed.

Think Southend paid £150,00 for him..thats not low for them..i may be wrong.

I'd send Revell back to Southend and go for someone better, Just my opinion.

I've heard that we might be after Tom Craddock from Luton, Would rather have him than Revell tbh.

I'd send him back as well.

I think he will have another go at getting Robson-Kanu he has not even been on the bench for Reading in the last three games and he will be going out on loan in January.

Revell was also excellent against Millwall, but 2 good games out of 10 probably isnt a good enough ratio....but then again thats 2 better than Hutch has got in a similar amount of games.

Good shout that dell.....he would be a great addition especially the way we are playing...cant believe hes not in the Reading team to be honest.
Ref Revell...agreed he hasnt done a great deal jjedmunds,just got a feeling Wilson likes him.

Tom Craddock would be good perhaps even Le Fondre or Pitman although i can't imagine either of those being within our budget.

Robson-Kanu was on the bench yesterday at Plymouth. With his lot waiting for Darren Ferguson to become manager I doubt they'll be letting many go out on loan(?)

Also, Tom Craddock has hardly set the Blue Square alight this season. The buzz around him is fading.

Brett Pitman would be good though.

Didn't know about Plymouth team yesterday I was just taking it from their Boxing Day programme.

I hear he is going out on loan and is not part of their current plans, they will be going for more experience players to get them out of their current mess not young luxury players. Reading seem to have made the same mistake as Southampton last year, playing too many youngsters who are not very experienced just dosen't work in such a competitive division.

He will go out on loan, to us, who knows.

Craddock is overrated.

HRK would be excellent addition, with O Brien likely to be out now for quite a while with his hamstring reoccurance we need someone to fill that role, maybe Reading are willing to sell him ?

January is going to be interesting. Fitton made a big thing about reducing the size of the squad, but that doesn't seem to have really happened. We're still losing shit loads of money and I don't see any big money sales happening in the summer to balance the books. So maybe Fitton will try to tighten things financially.

On the other hand, with the playoffs well within reach maybe he'll flash the cash a bit to ensure we make it. Making the playoff final (even if you lose) has to be worth in the region of £1m over finishing 7th.

In the summer the wage bill will reduce with the likes of Aljofree & Peacock being released - who are top earners, that will be the saving, then players signed are put on more incentive based contracts

If we could get a steady 8k through the door every week everyone could rest easy. The sight of Spurs, Liverpool. United, Arsenal and Chelsea shirts around Swindon on Town matchdays drives me 'round the twist.

We finally have the club under strong management, have a squad which show's it's capable of challenging the next rung up, not to mention the genuinely polished club 'experience' (versus the mess we had two/three years back) and still we encounter lethargy.

Let's hope Saturday's 8k (factoring out the 500-odd /Yeovil) had their cockles sufficiently warmed to splash out on a half season ticket... or at least give another 4-5 home games a shot. 

Agree that mondays Yeovil attendance was very encouraging and they saw a good show.

Robson-Kanu would have to work a lot harder to get in our team if he came for a second spell. I would look forward to that. When he was switched on and working hard he certainly was a very effective player. But some games he wasnt focused, this time he would have to be, or another player would come in instead.

Won't we just have Macca back from Norwich?

He is clearly not wanted there, and we need a left winger.

Is his loan up yet? To be honest, I don't see him coming back here at all

He is clearly not wanted here, either.

He doesnt fit into Danny Wilson ethos of hard working players who are comfortable with the ball at their feet.

Problem is he has Hoolahan in front of him at the moment, when/if Hoolahan goes he'll step in.

He wont sign another contract now. If Norwich dont want him then he might as well go on loan somewhere else.

He wont play for Swindon again. Were not a club on our knees anymore. He needs us more than we need him!

Tch Dave.You can level many criticisms at McNamee but one thing you cant deny is his "ball comfort"!

From a Southend forum

I dunno if i posted this before but Ron told me on the phone a couple of weeks ago that we have offered Swindon Revell for £25k on a first refusal. But they refused! He said he will be reluctantly back in Jan and then farmed out if poss as we don't wanna be paying his £2k a week salary. We also have offered Revell as part of a Part exchange for Morrison but again Swindon are not keen!

Good!

Revell for Morrison would be daylight robbery!

I can and I shall....

He could run with the ball but I dont ever remember him passing it around like Sheehan has done wide left, or how Ward was doing saturday.

McNamee was generally head down, run, step over, naff cross. Fine, he could do that but I dont think he ever passed it about and retained possesion like we do currently.

 "Passing the ball around" is not the same thing as "comfortable on the ball" though.First touch,ability to run with the ball and confident with the ball at your feet,yes.And come on,"naff cross"? The amount of chances he set up can also not be denied.Im not saying he wasn't less effective in his last few games but I would wager that during his time here he set up more chances than anyone.

His best performances were against big clubs. And half of those were pre season friendlies.

The rest, average. Nuff said.

Maybe if Southend could get Revell and convert him to a centre back we might be interested in 25k? This player does not command a fee.

Except JPM.

Being able to pass and receive the ball to feet is being comfortable on the ball.

Yes, naff crossed - most of them hit the first man, same with his corners.

Assists since McNamee has been here, can only get them for full seasons.

07/08
Zaaboub - 9
JPM - 7
Cox - 6
McNamee - 5
Paynter - 5

08/09
McNamee - 12
Paynter - 7
Cox - 4
HRK - 4
JPM - 3

09/10
JPM - 11 (already!!)
Amankwaah - 3
Paynter - 3
McNamee - 2

In total
JPM - 21
McNamee - 19
Paynter - 15
Cox - 10
Zaaboub - 9

^
That hardly backs up your opinion that he's naff at crossing, does it?!

That's assists for goals though Dave,I said chances.Still second to JPM is not bad and not the mark of a naff player.Plus,even by your definition of comfortable on the ball,few are better at receiving a ball.

I thought Simon Ferry had about 6 assists to his name this season?

I expect JPM has played a fair few more matches than Mcnamme, as Macca only joined in January 07/08 and we had JPM for most of that season didn't we, as he joined in August with Paynter and Coxy?

Zaaboub also got 9 assists the following season for Walsall - putting him up to 18 and having the disadvantage of not being in L1 this seaon

Having double checked, it seems I may have been talking out of my arse.

I would also wager that many of JPM's assists were from corners not open play.But I'm not arguing the merits of JPM.

Anybody know who got most of our assists in 03/04?

I was watching the highlights on youtube of the Brighton game and thinking back, the only real attacking midfielder we had was Igoe, and Howard but I'm sure he didn't play too many games? The centre midfield for the first leg of the play offs was Duke-Hewlett, hardly an creative force.

JPM 104 games
McNamee 88 games
Paynter 103 games

Zaaboub (9 for us 9 for Walsall) in 63 games (34 for us 29 for Walsal) looks to be the best assists to games ratio!!!!

Mooney got 8, Gurney 6, Igoe 6, Duke 6, Howard 4

Dave's your man.

Cheers.

Bar the strikeforce, I reckon our current side is as good as the one in 03/04 with the addition of another left sided player.

I know we didnt really play 4-4-2 much that season but..

Lucas > Evans

Amankwaah > Gurney
Cuthbert > Heywood
Greer = Ifil (he was awesome that season on loan, if we'd had him for the play off games)
Sheehan > Duke

JPM > Igoe
Douglas > Hewlett
Ferry = Miglioranzi
O'Brien < Howard

Paynter < Parkin
Austin < Mooney

just my opinion like

Sorry to be pedantic but Parkin's not as good as Parkin?

Agree with all of that.

If this team takes its chances then we beat other League 1 teams, end of.

We need a TEAM, Macca's face didnt fit, never a member of the unit. He's history.

Paynter better than Parkin-that's interesting

Sorry, got me strikers a bit wrong on my first post.

Paynter < Parkin
Austin < Mooney

Its still early days with Austin, so I dont want to get too carred away just yet. Him and Mooney both seem to add that extra spark to the season though. Really was a shame M££ney was a judas cuntbag. If he can keep scoring he can be just as good as Mooney.

Same with Paynter really - if he pushes on and gets 20+ goals this season.

Corrected

I was leaving it to one sign person player otherwise I would have added alot more.

Yeah meant the other way round.  :blink:

You sarcastic git. Wheres ya show pony gone?  :nerner:

Some good competition for Paynter and Austin could be either Chris O'Grady, Dave Hibbert or Phil Jevons who are all banging them in League 2, and will be less costly than your Pitmans and Zolas

I like the look of that O'grady.Apparantly Rochdale may struggle to agree a fee with oldham for him

Only problem with O'Grady is that Derby, Posh and Scunthorpe are after him too if Sky Sports are to be believed .Mind you, he struggled to get in at Oldham who have a poor strikeforce, how the hell would he fair in the Champ :p

If you're hoping to get some money for a player, having your chairman call them a useless piece of shit just before sending them out on loan isn't a good idea. I can't see anyone paying a penny for Revell as everyone knows Southend can't afford his wages and want to offload him.

I hope we don't sign Revell and once him and Hutchinson go back we only have Austin, Paynter and maybe Peacock and definitely need a striker or two.

There's a number of players we could go for:-

Brodie
O'Grady
Pitman
Jevons
Dagnall
Le Fondre
Barnard
Heffernan
Obika

See in a way i think we are in a weird position regarding strikers.We all know that we need some competition and the names stated above are players that i would like to see us go for but with the form and partnership of Paynter and Austin would they fancy their chances of replacing them? at the moment it's doubtful.

I think we will end up just keeping Ward or go from one extreme to the other by either signing a non league striker or someone who is very established.

Who was keeping Parkin and Mooney on their toes?

According to a Stockport fan Michael Rose's move to us is back on, We were after him in the summer weren't we?!!

Seems odd though because surely we would be looking to sign Sheehan permanently? Unless Wilson is planning on playing Rose at left back and Sheehan in left midfield?

The mighty Alan Young of course.

Rory Fallon wasn't it

H'mmm thats off the football forum thingy, which i wouldn't believe for a second. Full of adolescent dick wavers who know nothing apart from how much their wireless keyboard cost.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/dundee/8435484.stm

Worth a cheeky punt? Think we missed out on him before.

If that's right i'm with you on that.

I would be happy with that. Maybe keep Revell too as back up. Both show far more interest than Hutchinson who is a waste of space.

Richard Brodie at York City is playing below his level and is scoring lots of goals.

He'd be able to make the step up.

Having a few mates who are Oldham fans, Chris O Grady is complete shite hence he has dropped a league and has found his level. Not a favourite at Oldham and I don;t think he will do a job here

Huddersfield are rumoured to have already bid £200k for him though.

So many players have turned their fortunes around with a move to new surroundings. Cox is an example, couldn't hit a bulls arse with a shovel with the limited chances he had for Reading.

It was the failure to land Mulgrew that did for Malpas...he clearly thought he had got him, but hadn't...panicked and signed Yinka.

I think it might be this to which Fitton alludes with his bit in today's Adver about some managers being able to attract players.

So how come they have brought in Paul Heffernan from Doncaster and looking to secure his services until the end of the season?? Surely O'Grady should be called back if he is on form for Rochdale but Oldham know he's not good enough for League One.

We need to sign Revell as back up for Paynter, if Billy gets injured then he's a good replacement.

Not signing Revell and bringing in a forward who is half decent would be an signal of intent. Signing Revell, full time, however, wouldn't be.

The lad works hard, but lets be honest, he is awful.

It wasn't that long ago (18 months) that quite a few people thought Paynter was a bit shit:

http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,28852.0.html

Revell would be excellent cover for Paynter, if the price is right. Plus it will be difficult getting anyone decent with Austin and Paynter on fire at the moment as they know the chances of them getting a game are close to zero.

Maybe Wilson has something better lined up though.

It wasn't that long ago (18 months) that Paynter WAS a bit shit.

Think we need a pacey striker to offer something different.

Bit harsh. He wouldn't be my firs choice I have to say but I wouldn't say he is awful. Hutchinson is awful.

Paynter has never been shit

The only person talking sense in that thread was, naturally me.

A Cox and Paynter partnership will get you goals. Paynter is better than Corr.

re. Charlie Mulgrew...

He's a very similar player to Alan Sheehan.

We'd be better off going for the latter; we've got enough pissheads in the squad as it is without adding another one.

Hopefully this means we won't be signing Revell:-

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1811_5814255,00.html

On-loan Swindon striker Alex Revell says he does not know where his future lies but admits he would like to return to parent club Southend.

Seemingly out of Southend's plans, Revell was shipped off to League One rivals Swindon at the start of the season.

However, the 26-year-old's loan spell runs out this week and, although he has yet to discover his next destination, he admits he would be open to returning to Roots Hall.

"You can never say never but I really don't know what's going to happen," he told the Echo. "I still talk to a lot of people at the club and I love the boys there.

"I made so many friends during my time at Southend and not just on the playing side. There were loads of people who helped me through some difficult times during the first half of my contract and I would like to go back.

"But I really still don't understand what happened with me having to go out on loan and I don't know where I stand."

I'm sure I'm not producing any earth shattering thoughts with this one but I dont think we ever wanted Revell at all did we? Southend need him off the wage budget and offered him about (FM style, send offer to clubs!) and we needed a striker so said we'll give it a go.

It hasnt worked out.

I hope he stays..if Austen or Paynter or both get injured we have no other options...first choice no...cover yes.

I don't, Would rather us go for someone better, If Austin or Paynter get injured would you be confident that Revell would score the goals to keep us around the playoff places? I wouldn't.

There's lots of other better strikers we could go for.

http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/showthread.php?t=57160&page=2

'I dunno if i posted this before but Ron told me on the phone a couple of weeks ago that we have offered Swindon Revell for £25k on a first refusal. But they refused! He said he will be reluctantly back in Jan and then farmed out if poss as we don't wanna be paying his £2k a week salary. We also have offered Revell as part of a Part exchange for Morrison but again Swindon are not keen!'

You have got to love the southend chairman........piss take or what......I reckon he must of got his PA to make the call out of sheer embarressment

I think you are missing my point.

quote: 'So many players have turned their fortunes around with a move to new surroundings'.

Not going back to the same place - do you get it now?

I hope Revell goes back. 

Him and Hutchinson are both shite, so can frankly fuck off.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_5830778,00.html

Our bench looked thin defensively at Fulham - I'd bring him back.

What's going on with Aljofree now? He could provide cover. I'm sure hed rather go out on loan but if there are no takers he could provide cover. Assuming he's fit.

Actually, it was the strongest defensively for some time as we had two defenders - JFL and Thompson.

I agree though, we need him back asap. Greer is off form and only one yellow away from a ban.

Cuthbert/Morrison would be a very young centre back pairing, but you would hope that Lucas would keep them in shape.

Greer gives away a lot of free kicks late in the game, which could be because he is knackered, and Morrisons throw would give us an extra option.

Bring him back.

I definitely think we should get Morrison back. Greer could probably do with a rest, especially with a few Tuesday night games coming up. And as has been mentioned, he's only one yellow off a suspension. Morrison seems to have been playing well for Southend so now seems to be a good time to have him back.

Our bench looked thin full stop!

I still have nasty feeling something has happened behind closed doors. We had no recognised centre back as cover yet he goes out on loan. Something just doesn't add up.

I reckon we had a recall option. Team in same division and they can't be paying us anything. We'd be able to put a clause in the deal like that.

Southend have fuck all money and I can't see us letting him go for nothing, especially if he's playing well.

Agreed. But it might be something good - maybe he said he'd sign a new contract if he got some games on loan.

Or something bad - he's going in the summer and we're doing it to boost his value.

In that case play Greer until he gets a yellow, then he'll get a rest anyway. Surely Aljofree must be available as cover ?

Morrison back after weekend game loan not extended.

Morrison is back now anyway.

Young player goes out on loan to get games, unheard of!!

Young player goes out on loan to get games, unheard of!!

Feck off dave, he was on the brink of the first team but we've greer and cuthbert doing well was never going to start. But had a place on the bench. We didn't have any decent cb cover.

I think that's the entire point sippo.

I understand that its not first team football, but the point I was trying to make was that there was no cover. What happened if Greer got injured in the first minute of a game?

Oh well, he's back for now so it doesn't matter.

Can't see Aljofree ever playing for us again somehow. He's refused a few loan moves by all accounts which has annoyed the board and management and has been told by Wilson he doesn't have a job here. Apparently he's not a very nice bloke at all and is disliked by everyone at the club from office staff to playing staff and we're just trying to get shot so won't be suprised to see him gone permanently this month.
As for Morrison I'm sure he'll be back next week and luckily we haven't missed him whilst he's been away. If he was to leave though I sure we'd go out and get a new centre back as our management team aren't stupid. I don't think there's much to worry about tbh, I'm much more concerned about the championship clubs watching JPM.

LJF could cover at centre back. I think DW felt Morrison would benefit more from playing than bench warming.

He wasn't getting games now he is. Easy as that

Greer, Cuthbert, JFL and Alojfree are all centre backs.

Plus if we were really really desperate I reckon Peacock could have filled in.

Timlin and Douglas have both played at full back before as well.

Southend looking to extend the loan apparently:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southend_utd/8440991.stm

Good old Aunty Beeb. Finger on the pulse.

This was a calculated gamble by Wilson - if Greer and/or Cuthbert had got injured during that first month, yes we would have been up shit creek with only really LJF as cover. But he gambled that this wouldn't happen and got away with it - the result a win for everyone. An excellent young player gets valuable game time improving his fitness and comes back just in time to replace Greer when he gets suspended. It could have gone horribly wrong, but now it looks like a master stroke.

Surely there would have been an option to recall him early if needed.

Ive defended Greer to the hilt. But Im starting to wonder if he's going to need a rest soon? Looks tired some games.

I think he is on 4 yellows so he might have an unscheduled rest soon anyway when he picks the next one up.

Looks like Sarfend fans are pissed off at losing Sean

http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/showthread.php?t=57276

Morrison seems to be in good form currently, the prefect time for him to return to give Greer a break, I reckon.