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On behalf of KOT!  :)

Here's hoping Billy has a field day  :nod:

You can't start the matchday thread unless you're not going to sleep before the game. It's TEF law. Hope you're going to enjoy your all nighter.

Ok. I'll be the one asleep at the back of the DRS tomorrow afternoon.

Why can't Mex do it? Hoefully he starts one off tomorrow morning,otheriwse when we don't win it'll be your fault 4D  ;)

Lucas
Amankwaah
Greer
Cuthbert/Morrison
Lescinel/Kennedy
McGovern
Douglas
Ferry
McNamee
Paynter
Hutchinson

depending on the injuries of those 2 positions

It's not a fucking matchday!

It is somewhere,for some sport,surely?

Got it : friday : australia v scotland: cricket : therefore it is a matchday,just not football.

Fine, change the title to Australia vs Scotland Official Cricket Matchday Thread.

Looking forward to the game

Expecting Town win by the odd goal

This thread is an abomination.

It's not right, it's just not right.

i want to go but i'm too poor.

Me too :( on both counts, bad week this week money wise.

It is where BR lives  :nod:

Don't worry JJ, I'll sort you out a couple of games in October!

 ;)

"Taxi for Hertha to Thisis"

I really think we'll win this one.  :D

Mods. Sort this nonsense out.

Not now - the thread has been started on the wrong day by the wrong person. I feel a repeat of Gillingham coming on

"Taxi for R4E to Thisis"

dear oh dear oh dear, i was ready to start it too, just in from work, 3 in the morning, perfect time to start it.

Another thread? Which ones officially official?

Draw and a red card. There will be a Scottish bloke in the team.

Maurice Mal Mystic Meg

The one the Mex starts. The rest will be locked as we all know KoT is the official match day thread starter.

I'm now concerned that because someone else has started it, the gods of fate will not look upon us so kindly.

I started quite a few matchday threads last season, with varying degrees of success.

However, after starting the thread for the first game of the season, I have decided to retire and feel that Mex should start all MDT's from no on.

The only stipulation should be that it is started on matchday!

Can we stop this gayness please? No matchday threads before the day of the match (in the time zone of where the match is being played) and don't start another one if there's one already.

 :notworthy: Good work Ben. As Arriba said in the other one, it was getting pretty tedious the numerous matchday threads that were on the go.

Seeing as this thread was started a day early can Mex start an official one today?........oh wait, Dan Jackson has jinxed it   :cry:

What time are people heading to the pub?

I reckon I'll be there about 1

12ish

2-1 win

1-0 Hutchinson late goal

If we're serious about challenging for a play off place, this is a game we should win.  A 2-0 win for us.  Billy and Hutchinson (so no pressure there for our new signing.)

Team news from BBC Radio Swindon...Lescinel J-F, Hutchinson and Ferry all start.  Kennedy, Obadeyi and Easton making way.

kennedy and easton making way for 3 players? cool.

Can't you read?

hahaha how did you change that without editing?

All in your mind.  All in your mind.

If you edit quick enough it doesn't show up.

so it does

Damn you and your in depth knowledge of the inner workings of TEF web functionality!

Someone remind Lucas not to take up a media career when his playing days are over.

fitton always sounds a bit homosexual on the radio.

Have we not scored yet? Crap couple of signings they were !

I have no radio coverage....Am relying on you guys for updates

Last Year's team:

Peter Brezovan; Jack Smith, Jerel Ifil, Patrick Kanyuka, Hasney Aljofree; Jon-Paul McGovern, Lilian Nalis, Michael Timlin, Anthony McNamee; Simon Cox, Billy Paynter


This year's team:

Lucas, Amankwaah, Cuthbert, Greer (c), Jean-Francois, McGovern, Ferry, Douglas, McNamee, Hutchinson, Paynter

Subs including Timlin.


The defence totally replaced.

Peter Brezovan Club?
Jack Smith: Millwall
Jerel Ifil:Aberdeen
Patrick Kanyuka: Club? (had been on trial with Motherwell)
Hasney Aljofree: Injured

MKD 2-0 up at Exeter after 6 mins....wankers.

Sounds like its nearly all Saarfend at the mo, they have created a few chances.

I've been listening to this for 15mins and without realising it.

wooot

Get in 1-0 Cuthbert!

yay

Against the run of play?

Nobody knows.

Yippee!

Take it that Cuthbert is in instead of Morrison?
Was the goal from a corner?
What did Fitton have to say?
Is anyone listening online anywhere? They've turned the Radio Wilshire feed off.

We sound ok to me. Southend had a spell of possession but we are on top for the most part.

Oh, and Ferry sounds quite good.

It did seem to be a bit against the run of play a bit (from the commentary) but its pretty 50-50 now.

Good move by Lesc nearly another goal.

73% possession to us.

20:06  Assist by Anthony McNamee.
20:06 GOAL - Scott Cuthbert:Swindon 1 - 0 Southend Scott
Cuthbert gets on the score sheet with a goal from inside the box to the bottom left corner of the goal.
Swindon 1-0 Southend.

Foul by Anthony Grant(Southend) on Lescinel Jean-Francois(Swindon).
Direct free kick taken right-footed by Jon-Paul McGovern(Swindon) from left channel, goal by Scott Cuthbert(Swindon) right-footed (bottom-left of goal) from right channel (12 yards).
Swindon 1-0 Southend. Assist (cross) by Anthony McNamee(Swindon) from left channel.

fightings!

Lesc in a mini punch up!

yellow cards all round

Yellow for Lesc and Mvoto for handbags at 5 paces.

He should do voodoo on the other guy.

Magic people voodoo people.

Technically, shouldn't it be a red card for fighting?

Shall we be mean and hijack jonny72's mobile gallery thing by uploading pictures of ourselves listening to the game?

Not if they do it through the medium of mime.

red card.

red card

Oooh.

Red card

John Francois Christophe sent off for a 2nd yellow.

Not to be confused with Lescinel Jean-Francois, whom has NOT been sent off.

Indeedy dee :)

Paynter over the bar from 6 yards....but is offside anyway.

Who might have thought that was the case?

Me!

Me to.

Did he just say they were giving hi fives?

If so, then such behaviour must be stopped immediately.

Anything happening?

half time.

Summary of the half as you heard it?

Plymouth     0-1 Sheff Wed    HT
              Wood 33


Luggy could get a vote of confidence this week.
   

We were more or less in control NMH, asides from a few breaks from them.

Look pretty solid so far, deserve the lead!

Ferry looks decent, hutch looks off the pace but he has not had too much service tbf.

Saarfend are just a bunch of hacking thugs!

Come on town!

Thanks. Looked at the BBC stats which showed us having a 69-31% possession advantage but sharing 2 shots each. Doesn't really sound like a great game.

southend are a bunch of cheating cunts! We are playing good football and look like we have alot of bottle. We should win this comfortably

Some on the Sarfend forum thinks they can nick a point.


http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/showthread.php?t=54068&page=5

Tuuuuuunnnnnneeeeee

You can't disguise the fact you are still danjackson10. Nice try though.

I'm going one better than those at the game. I'm sat watching paint dry in my spare bedroom. No really, I am. Second coat to begin half way through the second half. Living the dream......

The Sarfend red card (second yellow) was apparently for diving.  You would want to try and take a dive when you are already on a yellow?


Sounds like it was for dissent, just as stupid.

Southend are aggrieved at not gettng a free kick on the right flank and Christophe, booked for a challenge minutes earlier, is shown a second yellow for his protests.

Our movement of the ball sounds fantastic. Runs being made all over the place.

mildenhall's in goal, so we should win by four or five

Anything happening?

60:51 Substitution Temitope Obadeyi on for Ben Hutchinson.

The crowd sound very quiet.

I'm starting to get worried!

I'm going to wield the paintbrush again.

Trundle now off the bench for Swansea.

69:47 Substitution Lee Trundle comes on in place of Leon Britton.

poor coxy can't get a game at west brom...

GOAL Obewwatsit

2-0, obadeyi

Fucking get in 2-0 Topi!

Toopppppeeeeeeeeee

2-1

2-1

Doh!

Im worried again!

could be down to 10men due to injury to o'brian

o'brien is crippled

southend get another chance. O'Brian just hanging out in the middle staying out the way.

Douglas down injured.

yawnyyawnyyawnyawn.

jesus this is looking bad.

So we've made 3 substitutions and one of the subs injured?

well sounding

Can you give a bit more detail please?

yeah.

come on town, be fucking great to win this.

we're "under the cosh" as hadwin puts it.

They're pushing us pretty hard. Not long to hang on though. 3mins.

Gulp!

this is torture not being able to listen

mildenhall jsut saved from jean-francois

oooh jean francois shot saved.

Whats he doing up there? Shouldnt he be defending?

full time. nice

According to Sky sports score centre jerel ifil has been playing on the right wing for aberdeen today

yay

whew

Very happy with a win :)

yesss. great result. win at home draw away. good stuff.

So....

- O'Brien's been crocked twice in his short time for us?
- Was Douglas injured?

think douglas got up and ran it off

i think we are up to 8th :)

yup, some relegation battle it's been this far

Have we played anyone any good yet?

1 Charlton 5 10 15
2 Leeds United 5 7 15
3 Franchise 5 3 11
4 Huddersfield 5 8 10
5 Colchester 5 6 9
6 Brentford 5 3 9
7 Bristol Rovers 5 2 9
8 Swindon 5 -3 8
9 Millwall 5 2 7
10 Norwich 5 -2 7
11 Oldham 5 -1 6
12 Yeovil 5 0 5
13 Leyton Orient 5 -1 5
14 Stockport 5 -1 5
15 Exeter 5 -1 5
16 Carlisle 5 -2 5
17 Walsall 5 -2 5
18 Gillingham 5 1 4
19 Southend 5 -1 4
20 Wycombe 5 -4 4
21 Hartlepool 5 -4 4
22 Tranmere 5 -8 3
23 Brighton 5 -9 2
24 Southampton 5 -3 -7

I think it is over for Luggy.



Plymouth     1 - 3     Sheff Wed     L
(HT 0 - 1)

    * Gow 80

      

    * Wood 33
    * Tudgay (pen) 72
    * Tudgay 90+2

Are Southampton actually now further away from safety?  They'll be truely fucked if they don't sort things out soon.

Oh, and go us!

They forgot to play the mess around.

I was concerned about this game following our midweek exploits, so very pleased with a low key win.

Next week though, I want to witness a fucking awesome performance, to go with the win.....

What did Wilson have to say?

nothing yet. unless I zoned out and missed it.

You rarely get relegation battles in August.

I will have to go into the future to reply to this.

If you could please.

i was being sarcastic

and?

meh, 3 points is 3 points.

dont think we played all that well and let Southend into it too much. We should have seen the game out much earlier but 3 points is 3 points.

think we also tired towards the end due to the 120mins mid week. surprised to see no sign of Easton after tuesday!

and nothing. why?

no reason.

Discussion was all about the second half.
Sloppy goal, could have been a penalty shout against us.  Worried about dropping in tempo after half time, got scrappy.  Didn't use the ball well, O'Brien done his hamstring.  

Toppi got his goal by persistence, good strikers get scrappy goals.

New signings did o.k., got better once they got used to the pace, Sarfend experienced in defence.  

Marshall and Easton couldn't even make the bench, now have more quality.  O'Brien out for how long?, don't know.

Early days, but three points very important for us today.  Sarfend have done very well over the last few seasons.

Nice to have a week off before next Saturday.  

Three days to go, no change on the transfer front, another signing a possibility.

Thanks for firing up the Delorean Crozzer

Firstv one 2 be spot on . Been 2 a rusdian swedding and glasd 2 come home 2 good news' Must drink less vodkaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Simon Ferry was the best player on the park today. so as he went off we lost our shape.

First one spot on also.

1 point off the play-offs, come on Town!

Ferry was awesome in midfield. Tope looked shit until he scored.

Well pleased to see their player get effectively sent off for diving. :)

is ferry a midget?

Yes.

Happy with that. Was always going to be difficult to produce another maestro performance after two fine Tuesdays on the run, so although we made hard work of it, we held on and took the points to enter official nose bleed territory in the table.

Once they get their fitness, the Celtic lads will be class for us within a few weeks. O'Brien looked more effective once he was injured as he all he could do was stand in the middle and actually played a couple of nice balls through from there as opposed to running up the wing and losing possession. Next time he comes on Wilson should kick him in the ankle as he runs on the pitch.

I thought we bossed the game right down to when the 2nd goal went in. By all accounts we should have had a goal or 2 before that. As soon as the 2nd went in we sat back and invited them onto us. shame we didn't kill the game off earlier in the half but we must be tired after so many games and after going the distance against Wolves so top marks to the boys. If we're going to do anything this season we need to win games likes this where we can just grind out a win. We weren't at our best but until those final few minutes Southend never really looked like scoring. I do feel we've got something good in the making here.

Was really impressed with the way we defended bar the goal. Cuthbert looks good and Greer was great as usual. Simon Ferry for me though was MOTM. What a great little player he could be. Not afraid to tackle and plays simple but effective passes. I'd be telling him to get forward more if I was Wilson because he could be very dangerous.

dire match.we were rubbish and wont win many playing like that.luckily we had 12 men as the ref was our best player.2 stone wall pens for them first half before we scored.passing was piss poor all over the park.
ferry was alright but the lad upfront was terrible.
same shit as last season really

Cheer up grumpy bollocks. It wasn't great by any means, but not as shit as you're making it out to be.

Exactly. It's grinding out results like that when you're not playing well that gets you places. As opposed to snatching draws where we should have had wins, or losing to unlucky goals like we did last season. Onwards and upwards

And actually some of the stuff we played in the first half, mostly through Ferry, was better than anything we managed to put together last season.

Wilson said much the same about O'Brien in the post match interview.

The 1st half sounded OK on the radio.

why do you bother going? you make me look happy ffs...

He obviously didn't get any last night.

Fuck knows why the saafend fans were getting such a hard on about the ref. The sending off was justified.

We did what we had to do. Nowt fancy, and despite having possesion at the end, southend didn't do anything with it.

Good win for Town.  Not a vintage performance by any stretch but we always looked comfortable and probably just deserved the win based on chances and territory.

In the 3 ghome games ive been to, we seem to do well in the first half and then  our performance levels dip in the second half.  However considering we've played 2 games a week since the start of the season, im guessing this has something to do with it.

Looking at our next 5 games i cant see why we cant get at least 10 points,  so hopefully this will maintain the playoff push

Did they have a couple of men playing the bongo's or was that a tape

No, there was supposedly a 'beach party' theme today. There were guys sat on Stratton Bank with bongos.

i ask myself the very same sometimes.take the rose tinted glasses off some of you.christ if they'd got the pen they deserved and we'd lost you'd all be moaning like fuck.

Nice to see Ferry impressed a few of you. Where did he play in the formation?
Hutch ok? or look rusty?

did i oversell them soapy tit wank

cheers

What penalty? Never looked like getting one, can't even think of a shout for one. You're just a miserable bastard.

Yes, I've got rose didnt glasses on - yes me of all people. I even said we played poor!

What Pen? You know you could always not go?

You clearly didn't go last season then? We were bloody awful but now we have improved so much. For a start we can actually defend. We're starting to look like one of those league one sides that is tight at the back and wins games by a single goal. A lot of teams have done well in this league playing the way we have been playing so far this season. But if you're going to be like that after a win then you may as well not bother coming back. It's fans like this that really annoy me. They just moan all the time about everything.

I thuoght it was a good win. We played some good stuff in the 1st half. From memory, they had 2 shots, 2 headers they put wide they should have put in the net and a penalty appeal turned down -if the bloke had been less theatrical maybe he would have got it.
Cuthbert looks class and some of Greer's passing was brilliant. Ferry looked like he is well capable of unlocking defences a la Ling.
I thuoght we looked really good until we tired and then we were hanging on for dear life. The point is thuogh that we did hang on.
I'm one of those with rose tinted glasses. I'm liking what I see. The players are playing with intelligence and when it doesn't come off you can see what they're trying to do.
This is still very much work in progress but I'm optimistic of a reasonable season. We're not going to go up - we're not going to reach the play offs but there is not a cat in hells chance we're gonig down.  

Ferry was MOTM. Great passing and nice movement. Got stuck in too. Great to see. When he get's a bit more match fit he's going to be a good player for us I think. As for Hutch he was alright but didn't really get a lot of the ball. Looks to have a bit of pace (although he's not lighting) and power about him. Think he needs to play a few more games to get match fit and then I feel he could be a decent enough player for us.

Wilson is doing a rebuilding job, but we are picking up points that we wouldn't have done last season.

We have a solid defence and midfield, but obviously haven't replaced Coxy.  So rather than panic and give atwo year contract to a donkey, the management are being patient.

As for strikers not looking great, if they could suddenly become lethal after weeks of reserve team football, they wouldn't be stuck in the reserves in the first place and would not be out on loan.


 

Christ they were a big side! Most were well over 6 foot.

Their number 20 was constantly pulling on Greer's shirt during freekicks.

Overall, I'm pleased with the 3 points and Ferry looked impressive.

Oh yes and their number 8 was bloody good. At thev end of the season I expect Southend to be there or therabouts. We beat a truly shit side in Southampton. We beat a pretty decent side today.

Jesus, you'd have thought we'd lost listening to you Arriba. Ok parts of the performance wernt champagne but fuck me we got there in the end and got the 3pts, which at the end of the day is the maximum you can get from a game whether you play well or play shit.

I cringe everytime we played it along the back four today - on the pure basis of having seen Town defenders from the past we notorious cant play football back there, what a breath of fresh air it is to see Cuthbert and Greer there who can play and defend WELL. IMO we look pretty solid back there.

Also i love the fact we have JP Ferry Douglas and Timlin (when he came on) who are more than confident with the ball at their feet and can play a pass. We look strong in midfield and these boys i feel are the key to the season for us.

Up top, hmm hard to say. Im a big fan of BP just thought today nothing was going for him, still a decent shift from him. Tope looks average and was assisted well by Mildy for his goal. Hutchinson looked like he was trying too hard to show he's come from a big club with flicks and tricks and also looked a yard off the pace, but this could be down to a lack of games. One more bod up top please Danny.

Overall...onward and upwards to Yeovil

The ref was one who wouldn't give free kicks just because a player falls down. In fact a Saarfend player was lucky not to get sent off early on, as he fell down and and fell on the ball, and handled it because he thought he was getting a fee kick. Instead he gave the free kick to us for handball, which the player threw down the ball, so he should've booked the player for deliberate handball, and then showed him a second yellow for dissent.

The Saafend player deserved to go for the biggest dive of the season. He went down like he'd been hit by a sniper, with him clutching his ankle, yet as soon as the ball came back close to him, he was up like lightning

Regarding the penalty incident, the player looked like he took a dive, but after the diving antics in the first half, he was not going to give it anyway.

Got to say they were the biggest moaners, having a moan about anything any everything.

To the game, we bossed the first half, and could've been a couple up.

Second half, Saarfend put 10 men behind the ball to make it difficult for us, and look for set pieces. Mildy threw the second in (close your legs Mildy!!), and when they got one back soon after, it was backs to the wall, even though they didn't look like scoring a second.

MoM - Ferry, with Greer and Cuthbert not far behind.

Southend didn't impress me all that much to be honest - we controlled the game for most of the first half and the start of the second. They only began to get into it towards the end of the second when we got sloppy. There were times when players didn't look interested, weren't looking to get into space and weren't giving options. Some will say that's a result of Tuesday night but I thought it was very frustrating and could have cost us two points.

Having said all that, for the most part we played pretty well. Ferry showed a lot of promise once he got into the game, and we passed the ball around very well at times. As for the red card, the ref wasn't going to book him until the player made it obvious he was cheating - by letting go of his injured leg, jumping up, and challenging for a header. How Southend thought they had a right to complain I do not know.

Ridiculous post, it wasn't a classic match, but it was far from "dire". Our passing was really good in different parts of the game, and we still looked solid at the back apart from the occasional back passes. And the difference between now and last season is huge in my opinion - I personally get far less worried of a stupid fuckup whenever we are passing the ball around in defence, and we look like a genuine threat on the wings and up front.

I've seen ALOT worse matches. It was far from dire.

Some good movement and solid defending.

Only thing that was dire was the atmosphere.

I see we've earned 3 points and therefore I'm happy. The manager will note the flaws... Last season if we played poorly we lost, so that's progress for me :)

I thought it was a pretty bad game, in fact I'd rather be arse raped by a horse than watch that game again.

Whilst Ferry was my MOTM, Hutchinson was useless. I haven't been too impressed by Obadeyi either, I'd be pretty pissed off if I was Macklin who has played well when given a chance but then been replaced by loan signings that aren't any better than him. Why help develop other clubs players over our own?

Other than a couple of blips the defence looked really solid, just a pity they conceded a sloppy goal again. Amankwaah was the best of them for me, he seems to be getting better and better.

Southend were pretty awful though (worse than us) and the worst of the teams I've seen at home. If they keep playing like that they'll be in relegation trouble come the end of the season.

Biggest laugh of the day goes to Luci for locking herself inside her car. :D

My twopenneth:

The game was OK for large parts and we controlled it well up to their goal, as we should against 10 men. The substitutions didn't really help as we seemed to be a bit at sixes and sevens after it became 2-1. It's easy to lose site of the performance in the whole match when the last 15 mins were garbage.

The dive was comical. You could see daylight between him and the defender. And the 'resurrection' probably made the refs mind up.

My only moan is we have to be more careful, we could easily have got clawed back from 2-0. And I did think they had a fair shout of a penalty (the first claim). But a win is a win.

Very impressed by Ferry (Ferry impressed), especially given this was his first game for us. 'Hutch' seemed a little of the pace to me, but you can't condemn the man just yet! Lets see where he is after a few games.

All in all a good 3 points.

How is that even possible?!

When you press the 'lock' button on the keyfob without realising...

Please do feel free to elaborate.

i'm not grumpy,i just thought it was a poor game.how that means i clearly didn't go last year or shouldn't go i dont know?
if i thought it was a good game and we played well i would have said so.i guess i better go into more detail to explain.

i thought the passing was generally poor.yes there was the odd decent move but overall it wasn't great.ferry took 20 mins to get into the game and got robbed of the ball a couple of times.to his credit he grew as the game went on and was deffo mom.his fellow celtic team mate i thought was out of his depth.hope he can improve.
we didn't create alot until it was more or less over,and i am 100% convinced they had solid pen claims. jean francios pulled back one of theirs blatantly,and a few mins later cuthbert elbowed their forward.southend fans should rightly be pissed off with the ref.

yes i'm glad we won but it was far from convincing.

Haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b_EDv8f4Mw&feature=related

??

We controlled the game for 75 minutes, keeping the ball and looking comfortable defensively  against a side that is expected to be there or thereabouts, how is that anything like last season? Fair enough we didn't kick on when we should have, but when Ferry and Hutchinson are both match fit we wouldn't have had to change the side and momentum would have been maintained.

All this shit about the ref is bollocks. He was good, that was all. He wasn't bias in any way, the bloke deserved a booking and from where I was sat it wasn't a penalty, the forward just needs to hit the weights.

My only concern is JFL. Either he wasn't fit or just isn't good enough. His distribution is horrendous and he doesn't inspire confidence like the rest of the back four.

I thought JFL had a decent game. Looked brilliant one minute and then awful the rest.

axs comes wandering into the pub asking for advice on what to do if you lock yourself in your car. Cue mass exodus from pub as everybody goes to have look and a laugh.

She couldn't open the doors or windows and if she tried starting the engine the alarm would go off. Panic set in and she was preparing to ring the RAC when Fred pipes up and says "Have you tried pressing the button on the key?". Car unlocks. We laugh, a lot.

Fantastic effort Luci. Some braver than I might even say special.

Oh dear oh dear Luci.

Imagine of she did call the RAC, it'd be on the same level as Homer Simpson being rescued from a vending machine by the fire brigade.

I don't think JFL was fully fit but I can see why DW sticks with him. He's still learning and he's crap and excellent in equal measure. He's very raw but I think there is a bloody good player in there. I don't think he was running freely today, his tracking back was very slow. In the second half he did a clever lob pass to Macca and had a decent run and shot. He also blocked a couple of good ones.
Like the team, he's still work in progress but I'd stick with him for now.

i wasn't refering to you as rose tinted.the first part of my post was in response to you

I really panicked and it was hard calling axs with the alarm blasting out and hazards flashing.  I really panicked as all I could think about was having no water, needing the toilet and having to wait two hours for the RAC to come and retrieve me.

I know i won't live this one down. I was even more worried because my RAC documents haven't come in the post yet!  

I thought it was a good first half, we looked comfortable on the ball and were good value for the lead.

We look tired in the second half and faded quite badly, Ferry looked a quality aquisition. Hutchinson looks like he could be good player, his distribution was good in the first half. I think he tried to showboat a bit too much, constantly looking for clever 180/360 turns everytime he got the ball. Give him time he could be a real threat.

It certainly wasnt a classic, but it was 3 points and we looked pretty solid still. The loud mouth geezer who sits behind me branded our performance as 'disgraceful' and 'diabolical' - a tad harsh, we won FFS! He will obviously explode with rage when we get beat 3 nil.

Personally I came away happy and full of hope for the coming weeks, yes we didnt play like champions, we played like a team who battled hard against a strong wind, a very physical team and their own fitness due to the 120mins we played against a Premiership team midweek.

I'm Satisfied.

progress,last season we moaned about losing this season we moan about winning.These players are a big improvement on the ones we,ve been watching for the last 4 seasons.

why is it because i' not raving about it that = moaning?
it isn't moaning,but i cant dress it up because we won.there are positives for sure, but it was a poor game of football.

To be honest arriba, I was wondering if maybe you were trying to be sarcastic or ironic in your first post. It really was surprisingly negative after a win, you even out did Bart mate.

"dire match.we were rubbish"
"passing was piss poor all over the park"
"the lad upfront was terrible"
"same shit as last season really"

There is some truth in everything you said, but it was an unobjective moan and you know it ;)

people forget how shit stuff is when the result is good though bk.
and it's all truth reeves. :D

Has anyone ever seen Arriba and DV in the same room?

You need to realise that you support a team in League 1 so therefore you will witness lots of poor games, if you want to watch brilliant football every week then pay through the nose to watch a plastic premiership team.

You sound like my dad Arriba, and he is 67.  The game wasn't the best but the first half we looked totally in control without scoring the goals that our control warranted.  2nd half we looked tired without really looking like being in trouble.

After watching the last few years of lge1\lge2 football I will take that!

You come across as one of those people who even if we were in the top 4 of the Prem you would find something to moan about!  I would find another passtime if I were you.  Maybe go back to walking your dogs!

That's a bit patronising isn't it Berniman?

There's nothing wrong with pointing out a few observations whether people agree or not.

"Well actually it wasn't that good"

"You shouldn't support us".

yeah it is patronising,and i've been misquoted and interpreted with 2+2=5 with some of the stuff i've had thrown my way.
i think i watch games in a different way to most of you.this has only been since my lad has played at the level he does where performance is key,not the result.it's changed the way i look at football to be honest.
i stand by everything i've said,and i bet plenty of the players today are pissed off with themselves.

Good game and one that we may have drawn under Malpas.

Funniest moment for me was in the 1st half where their foward stood right near Lucas for the kick, ala Cox/Paynter style and he stood on Lucas' right waiting for him to kick it and didn't realise that he was left footed.

What is patronising about it?  Just pointing out that if he is expecting a brilliant performance every week when following a team in league 1 then he is expecting too much!

What is the problem with that?

I would have thuoght the majority of Swindon players will be absolutely knackered as they work one hell of a lot harder than they've done for a few years. I would also have thuoght the majority will be thinking 8th in the league - not bad and as its a fairly new team maybe things could get quite exciting.
Then I'd imagine they'll go out on the piss for a well earned beer and enjoy the finest women they can find and unlike a lot of last season, good luck to them. In my opinion they'll have earned it this week.

Ah sorry, I didn't realise that you have superior knowledge to everyone else on here when it comes to football, I apologise!

I have only just been introduced to the game last week and am in that learning curve stage!  

I am sure I will get it soon!  Bear with me!

Who is the patronising one now?

Today I finally lost it, what a fucking attrocious effort, dire, cringeworthy...


..the fucking fans sat behind me that is.  Moaned all game, even when we were passing it around with a bit of confidence start of the 2nd half.  Topped it off by lambasting O'Brien for not running when he was practically having to hop around.  Anyway, it allowed me to call that long haired Rik Wakeman lookalike a fucking imbecile.

Jesus wept.  It was by no means a classic, the last 30 mins was pretty rubbish but before that we played some good stuff and got ourselves into a comfortable position.  Ferry will be class after a couple of games and I think Huthinson will turn out well.  oh, and on the fans behind me, quite what shouting at Tope after he scored with "you may have scored but you're still fucking useless" was supposed to achieve I'll never know.

Arriba, if you'd worded it a little less like you'd just witnessed us take a hammering, then I think people would have taken less offence.  For a good 40 odd minutes we had complete and utter control of the game and passed reasonably well, it was far better then most games last year.

that the parents and the PC brigade talking

football is all about the winning. otherwise whats the point?

where have i said i'm superior?
not what i said or what i meant

The world would be a far boring place if we all agreed on everything.

Anywho, this appears to be the forming of a slanging match and I want no part in it :)

You looked quite calm on the bench outside Burger King after the game?

Mind you, if arriba was the guy behind me I may join in the verbal rallies (I know it wasn't though).

No slanging match here!  I just think "fans" can be far too critical and expect more than a league 1 squad is capable of at times, bearing in mind what has gone on in the last week.

We are playing far better football than we have for a good few years IMO, and the team is performing above average for a lge 1 side without a massive budget.  I think some people have far too high an expectation for a team at this level.

Nothing patronising about that!

i sit through games quietly.dont moan,rant and rave or shout etc.
i wish i didn't post what i did as i dont want to repeatedly have to defend myself when people misinterpret what i say.

i'm not trying to act superior,or slate the team.i'm just telling it how i saw it.
i always do and will continue to do so.
i dont expect everyone to agree with me but i hate having stuff i've said blown out of proportion and shit added to it.

berniman you were patronising.you told me what i think,what i should expect,and what i should do.
you also wrongly bleated bollocks about me thinking i'm superior,with plenty of added sarcasm to boot.
you can think what you like but challenge me on what i am and what i think and say, not what you exaggerate to have a pop.

Hairy muff arriba, it's the idiotic lunatics during the game that get my goat.  A few posters on here sit near me (back of DR near the Town End), and if anyone knows (or gof forbid, is) the fat fucker who all but provides negative commentary all game, please tell him (or yourself) to shut the fuck up.  There must be 4 in a row up there who hate going to games.

I Don't Agree With What You Say......but I'll defend to the death until I get hungry your right to say it.

On Hutchison, he was clearly not match fit or 1st team sharp but he had little flashes of some quite intelligent play. Personally, I thought he showed enough in the first half to show he'll come on to be a decent player for us once he is match fit. To just write him off as "useless" and "terrible" making no allowance for the fact he's only just joined the squad, isn't match fit and has been playing Scottish reserve team football lately seems to me excessively harsh and gives no sense of the context.

If he doesn't improve over coming weeks, I'll revisit that judgement. But for a first outing in a wholly new environment, he wasn't outstanding, but like I say showed enough IMO to give me confidence he'll come on well for us.

arriba, I think people would have been less inclined to view you as moaning if your first couple of comments on the match hadn't been completely negative on what was a decent first half performance and a good win. Sorry if that's patronising, but if even DV thinks you're moaning, you've got a problem :)

You're not that far from me then,he fucking annoys me too,with stupid thing's like we got eleven on the pitch now macca's gone off and tope might of scored but he's still shit,and i think his fav his go on billy in a sarcastic manner.

paul you know thats not patronising,and i dont in the slightest think it was.

Sorry, cheap shot. And I can see why you railed at Berniman but then I can see why he railed at you too. I'm just too empathetic for my own good :)

Got to say i tend to side with arriba abit here....the reason being theres alot of fans who are still not happy with what is being dished up....v Franchise it was terrible,i went to Wolves we were superb...ime not one for slating the players even when they are pants,alot of friends who go to watch the Town are not as passionate about the Town as me,so say it as they see it...it pisses me off but they have as much rite to moan or be pissed off as anyone......what i will not tolerate is personal abuse at our players...will never forget the shite Duke had to take,it nearly made me sick and ime ashamed to say it led to fisticuffs in front of kids which i wasnt proud off.....arriba saw it as he did...we may not agree but so what.

Arriba, I stated an opinion of what you should expect and what you should do based on your first couple of posts, I am unaware of telling you what you think as you had already done that yourself in your first couple of posts. I certainly don't think I was patronising, I was stating my opinion on your post as you have since done on mine, but I did so without suggesting that your opinion was bleating bollocks!

By saying that you watch a different game to everyone else because you regularly watch a level of football that has made you undertand the tactics of the game more (that might not be what you were trying to say but that is how it came across) is more patronising than anything I said as your post came across that you were watching different aspects of the game that us supporters do not understand, without knowing what level any of us has been involved in football in the past.  I do not need to spout this as I am involved with this forum because I am a fan not because I am knowledgable about football.  

This is the TEF!  Am I mistaken that this forum is all about the sarcasm, that is what is so fun about this forum.  I have been told before that I come across as over sarcastic on the forum by people who have met me later on, but what is wrong with that?  Should I mind my P's and Q's with you because I believe you were being very over critical of the performance? In a word, No!

I did not have a pop, I challenged you on what you think and what you said, as you did to me!  This is a forum and this is allowed, unless you know something I don't!  If you take offence to people disagreeing with then a forum is the worse place to be surely!

Pauld, stop bloody sitting on the fence, grow some backbone man! ;D

BTW, this was meant as a joke before anyone kicks off at me again!

On a brighter note, we won!  :beers: Anyone would have thought we were playing Gillingham!

We all see things differently Leefer.  From my perspective I think we might just have had a bit of luck today, we've taken three points but on another day we could easily have dropped points.  I thought the first half we were easily the better team, and I thought Cuthbert looked quality.  If the Billy Paynter cross in the first minute of the second half had found a Swindon player I think we might have seen three or four goals but it wasn't to be.  The longer the game went on the more negative we became, our passing was awful at times and Southend came right back into it.  As for the stick that Duke used to get, let us not forget that this time last season Paynter was taking a lot of abuse both at games and on forums - there's not many putting in a better shift week in and week out now.

grrrr.you've misquoted me again but i'm not going to argue anymore with you.i'm sure no one else wants to read anymore, so lets agree to disagree.

Amen.

Leaving all the bitching aside from previous posts ....
I thought we were dire in the second half, end of ...I do like the why Wilson has us playing across the back it shows confidence on the ball, but also very easy for a side with men behind the ball to defend.
First half we looked very comfiortable, Southend I thought were a very poor side.
Second half we sat back just like last season and I expected an equaliser any minute, but thank God we held on.
Three points were the most important thing today, but entertainment value was down.
On the up side it was great to see Tans today.

In the top eight, great credit after the Gillingham result.

Where do you sit Russ? Doesn't sound too far from me.....no, I'm not the guy being mentioned  :)

Don't you call me a bitch your old bastard!

Love you Arriba!

(not being sarcastic, he knows what I mean!)

:)

I sit in T187, fat bastard sits a couple behind me and about 182ish I guess, just so we all know which fat bastard we are talking about.

is it rick wakeman and his buddies?

Yes, I thought they'd calmed down a bit so purchased a season ticket in the same place, grrrrrr

Thanks very much. I don't remember him moaning at all today! In fact he's been very complimentary this season so far of the way we've been playing. He just wanted a bit more effort to hold on to the 3 points.

U 178

That would be Dell Boy then surely?

No, that would be me

:D

haha.priceless.
time to fight your corner redone.

I dont moan at all at games, sing my little head off, and very happy clappy ....

Oooh, who's pretending to be redone then?  

Don't try an fake it Andy, everyone knows what you look like!

Pussy!

Moi ?

I'm happy to admit I moan like a total wanker when they don't put the effort in I think they should be.

I'll also praise them when they do deserve it.

i'd like to know your take on today.
greetings by the way

Let's face it, you are not exactly the fonejacker are you?  More people than know JFW know what you look like but have never met you!

 ;D

Its going to be a long season for you mate, but it beats kicking the cat every weekend I suppose!

So are you admitting that you are the tad over weight man that sits at the back of the DRS behind  Mr Rob T, that is a tad exuberant in your over criticism of the town?

Are you related to Aribba?

Joke, Joke........it was just a joke.  Sorry couldn't resist!

 :insane:

Thought we deserved the win in a game that I'm doubt that we'd have thrown away at least 2 points last season.

I don't think we worked hard enough against the 10 men although that was probably down to the effort they put in on Tuesday.

I'm happy with the start we've made to this season apart from the Gills game. Things are definitely on the up as far as I'm concerned but I'm not one that wears the rose-tinted glasses that alot of Town fans seem to.

I've never understood the amout of applause Town players get for missing chances from 6 yards out over the last couple of years. They're professional footballers and as far as I'm concerned should be doing better.

Perhaps I've just been watching them too long and expect too much and am not happy when I think they should be doing better. Let's face it, the players are in this league for a reason!

I've known Ern (Rick Wakeman) for over 25 years and he lives for the club, he sometimes probably cares a bit too much and it comes across as being a moaning git (which he sometimes is)

I think I better go to bed!

Yep, that'd be me, and it isn't a tad  ;D

Never met the guy, but we seem to have the same realistic approach to the game  :D

Not forgetting the commentary if we are talking about the same person here,to be honest i've never heard anything positive,Mr Redone is it you that keeps shouting well done billy in sarcastic sort of manner.I agree everyone has a moan but you really have it bad if that is you.  

Nope that one isn't down to any of us. In fact we all like Billy for the effort he puts in. If they all worked that hard it'd be a different story.

Not sure about Tim though, he wasn't there today. He just likes to be controversial. Best thing to do with him is to ignore him, like all his mates do.

Your bunch sound like a right hoot. I'm glad I sit nowhere near you.

dont agree about the effort, but good post fella.
post again and get your mate rick to.if he aint the owner of a broken heart(sorry)

Mates!! Now thats nice.

I sit in V180 or therabouts. We've got the first 6 sets from the aisle.
I did think the comments about 10 on 10 as we had Macca were out of order as was the he's scored but he's still shit. I used to know Rick Wakeman many years ago from the away games.

what do these guys say that is out of order?

That's fair enough and is your opinion which everyones entitled to. I just think we could have worked the ball a bit more against 10 and that Macca was one of the worst culprits of not running at people and trying to put the ball in too early.

Can you honestly say that Tope did anything today apart from score? He may turn out to be a very good player, but when we signed him Bolton fans were saying he wasn't far off their first team. I haven't seen anything like that from him, but believe me I hope I do.

Basically its non stop slagging off the team - very loud. How they've never got a slap is beyond me.  People tolerate them but one day it will happen. There will be a game when emotions run high where someone will have a pop. I'm pretty immune to it. Macca seems to be a particular favourite for abuse. In the Soton game one of the group said rather loudly why the fuck are people giving Macca a standing ovation when he was substituted.
One day it will kick off. A few ST holders have moved.

Tope is not the answer, the goal he scored today was a total misshit, but somehow it made its way over the line, would be very surprised if his loan was extended.

Macca will never be a workmanlike player, he is an impact player, to pick on Macca imo is a bit unfair, Wilson like most managers are not adventurous when they are in front and the order of the day was to get bodies behind the ball, its not good entertainment but three points, I'm sure he was just following instructions from the bench.

Personally I thought Tope was poor today. I don't think he has the strength and his control and running with the ball are poor but he sure ain't going to get any better from your comments. Macca is a different matter. How the fuck anyone expects a 2ft high 3 stone toddler to defend is beyond me.  
Say hello next home game. I'm the fattest fucker within about 30 seat radius, with the possible excpetion of Chubby.  

I think macca is just one of those frustrating player's but he is a player who can turn a game,one to many step overs i agree,but i would't say it was like having ten player's on the pitch,Tope well i can't make my mind up,what i've seen of him he tries to do to much and yet other times it's like he want's to be somewhere else.

I think it could be the reality of league one being a culture shock,the only trouble his he will be off before he can settle in.

I would't say he's shit tho.

Maybe shit was a bit too harsh. Perhaps I should have said he hasn't lived up to expectations.

Football is a game of opinions, that's what makes it the best game on earth.

i expected tope to be bigger.lucky goal and i think he wont be here much longer

Ah, your in the block to my left about 30 seats away so obviously I can't hear the bloke your on about (probably a good thing)

Tope's goal was excellent. Alan O Brien fucked up his run. The defender fucked up his challenge. Tope fucked up his shot and Mildy fucked up his save. Division 3 fooball at its best.  

I may well pop across and say hello. Believe me, none of us go there to wind any other fans up. We're probably just guilty of being a bit too vocal some times with our opinions. I'll ask the guys to keep it down a bit. Certainly don't want anyone to move because of us as we're all there for the same reason.

Not sure it'll work on Tim though, but he'll be off to Australia soon so won't annoy anyone. Even I told him to shut the hell up at Oldham last week.

It may not be the intention but its certainly the effect. I'm quite cool as I used to stand with Rick Wakeman at the away games many years ago and I know him to be a decent chap. He's obviuosly a bit more of a grumpy fucker than I recall. You guys have lead a lucky existence. On the basis I used to know Rick ( Ernie ) I did stop one rather aggresive guy coming over to you last season who had had enough. 

That's fair enough. I'll have a quiet word and try not to be too detrimental in the future.

i used to sit 161 row e.and you lot think i'm grumpy.the old cunt who sat next to me never clapped an maoned at everythng.when we got beat 1-0 by brighton play off year he said "we'd only go down anyway"
he is the most miserable cunt i've ever seen at a town game.he still goes now.the buy who sat the other side with his family was a great bloke and a realist who still sits there too.

Wouldn't disagree with any of that re Tope. However, I think he suffers from chronic indecisiveness rather than laziness (I know you didn't say that but plenty around me were saying it today). I wonder if he's used to getting a bit more time on the ball in Prem reserve games where they all stand round admiring each other's showboating a bit more and now he's in the 3rd division, he's starting to realise he has to make a decision quick (pass/shoot/tackle) before some hairy-arsed centre half boots him into row Z and is finding he can't do it. Can't make the decision so he ends up just standing there, looking like a rabbit in headlights. Or maybe he's just a bit shit.

Of course it may be that he isn't that far off the Bolton first team and that was actually the Bolton fans having another go at Megson - as in "Christ, we could end up with him in the first team"

Tope is utter wanktoss, but I wouldn't shout that at him.

the last two pages have been brilliant, thank you  :)

everywhere you sit/stand at the county ground there's someone unbearably negative in earshot. it's the way it is.

I guess not, considering he's on a months loan  :)

Actually, that was me too.

Oh, and ferry was ace and skill, tope was not so impressive.

You all sit about 2/3 rows in front of me, im back row, we are the noisy bunch trying to stir you all to sing. If RobT things your miserable then fuck me, he's like Ian Curtis on downers.

That can't be - are you saying Swindon's No 1 happy clappy is actually a misery wisery? The tears behind the clown makeup and all that :)

Halfway through the second half I actually stood up and shouted for them to shut the fuck up and that they were shit. They wouldnt have heard me though 8)

Drums/Bongos at football should be banned. Whoever invented it should be shot.

i agree

That was the unique STFC "Beach Party" experience !!!

Oh how I chuckled at the bongo players freezing their tits off on the SB

Ferry looks a cut above. He gave the ball away once or twice early on, but other than that its hard to fault him. He looks totally in control when on the ball, knows what pass to make, and where to make it, like he doesn't even need to think about it. I might be getting a bit carried away but I think he's class, and will go down alongside the likes of Carrick/Given/Milner/Davis as quality loan players at Swindon Town.

On the flip side, I still can't find any positives about Tope. Ol' One-ball should take full credit for that goal ;)

Oh and that was the other thing - anyone see Mildenhall check himself at the start of the first half when the TE were singing 'you've only got one ball'? I chuckled.

awsome first half, frustrating second half, ferry was ace, tope was shit and i think jfw was sat behind me but i was to shy to say hello! :)

I think the County Ground has a curse on Mildy!

We were lucky yesterday, that was a worse performance than Franchise at home. We really tired in the second half, Douglas just couldnt get around the park quick enough. Glad the players have a week off now.

There are some miserable fookers about, but it has to be said, that Tope is rubbish! On the flip side, the Celtic lads were very good, and Cuthbert was excellent. Loved the way he celebrated his goal. Everyone in the pub after was saying how good it was to watch a player who really looked like he enjoyed scoring a goal!

Weve got the points, these are the lucky ones you get if you are going to get yourself up there. Without the sending off or Mildy's fuck up I think we would have lost. Onwards and upwards.

You don't just have miserable tossers in the DRS. We have our very own one in the Arkells.

He does nothing but moan for the full 90 mins. In the last few minutes, he kept on moaning about O'Brien until I shouted up at him that O'Brien was injured...he soon shut up !!

Positives: 
3 points
Celtic Lads
Strength in Depth (Easton and Marshall not making the bench)
Team not settled yet, will improve with time.
Defence vast improvement over last season.
Midfield now has creativity with Ferry.
JPM rejuvenated after being Malpassed.
Defender scoring, second home game in a row.

Negatives:
Conceded immediately after scoring, twice in two weeks.
Need another striker, Paynter will get injured/suspended, other strikers are all loan players.

You must have been sat near me then!

The first half, ball retention and ground passing was excellent, proving they can do it, and the weaknesses can be worked upon. Second half is best forgotten except that we held on for three points.

Was it? I forget, I'd had a lot of cider between when it happened and when I posted that.

wilson saw what this "miserable bastard" did according to todays press.

Hadwin thought it was a penalty as well.

I thought it was a pen as well, but I sit closer to the TE than the bank so can't be sure.

I enjoyed the footage of Christophe's agony and then swift recovery... Serves him right.

if you saw the bbc football league show, claridge thought it wasn't a dive.

claridge is a fucking wanker

I thought it was not about whether or not he dived. I thought it was about the play acting when he was down.

I sit in the Arkells virtually on the 18 yard line, with he incident took pace in line with me, and it was a dive, with everyone around me saying the same, so Claridge better get some glasses.

How he got up was laughable, so hopefully Soccer AM will show the incident next week in the 'It's a miracle' section, where they take the piss of players who get up so quickly from being so injured.

strange, there was one like that sat in front of me in the drs

Soccer AM was taking the piss out of Kieran Lee this week after his freak equaliser against us.

Yeah, but then Claridge also think he's a football pundit who has something to add to our knowledge/enjoyment of the game

It was a foul and a dive.He stood on his foot but matey made a meal out of it.

I seriously don't remember any penalty shouts. Must be the cider.

Yep, i was closest to it and was surprised the ref didn't award a freekick, but he did make an amusing meal of it, especially with the scream and dive. It amused me much.

you are right.he was caught but not where he held his leg.i must sit near to you summerof69. the bloke moaning about o brien not realising he was injured was in the row behind me

um and me arriba

maybe we should hook up sometime, ;)

Does that mean you accept me

DONT arriba...dont do it for pitys sake.

i'm a giver,not a taker.

You lucked out then.

Phew...glad you spelt that right.

gutted

leefer you played south cerney recently?
any good?thinking of playing there tomorrow

Play there often....have you played it before?

when it first opened a few years ago.cant remember anything about it to be honest, apart from thinking it needed to mature.fancy a change from my usual courses and that one is down the road so will give it a go. do you rate it?

Nice easy course(relatively)..very linxy feel to it...not a lot of sand or water cos its new but i alway enjoy it as its not hilly.....on the first go left...go right and you will grab a snowman as a minimum....also you can play nine there if you want.

i'll do 18 leefer.play broome and woodbridge mostly.i played minehead when on holiday recently and it was winday as fuck.proper links with narrow fairways and deep bunkers.

You will enjoy it...the greens play fast..18 or maybe 20 quid i think.

cheers fella

I missed the conversation with Redone, so here goes

They say practically nothing other than negative remarks normally directed at our own players during the game, loud enough for a good number of people to have to put up with it.  Don't get me wrong, there are games and moments that deserve a bit of a verbal lashing, but when we are winning and playing well is pushing it too far.  Rik Wakeman, or Ern, has been at it for years.  His little group were stood behind me against Hull away in 1995 (see how annoying they can be, I can still remember it) shouting out quite loudly that Given was rubbsh and would never make it as a keeper because he was too small -this was in the pre match warm up in our first game of the season.

Redone, I don't usually do my nut over such things, but on Saturday it wound me up no end.  I've already moved once this season and last season I moved against Millwall (which was dire, but when the game is dire I don't need to be told about it every bloody 30 seconds at the same time).  It's only because I know a few other people in the area that I renewed, I'm considering a change of seat now though.  If it's going to be like that while we are unbeaten at home I'm concerned for my own sanity.

there are loads of idiots who moan and talk shit though.plenty of people know very little, but shout and moan.
if you move you'll only sit near another cretin.
it used to wind me up but i dont give a shit anymore. i laugh quite alot now at ridiculous stuff during games.both on the pitch and from the crowd.

Oh, I know people moan for no good reason and have put up with it many times, but this group make it into a profession.  I seriously have not experienced it before and have moved around the ground a fair bit in my years.  I've witnessed two guys kick off with each other before, but even that was more funny to witness than these guys.  It's more slanted towards abuse at individual players than the general for fucks sake type remarks when Ifil had just launched another clearance into the roof.  I honestly think they believe they are being funny and "insightfull".  Having a pop at a player who had yet to play for us (and as it turned out went on to become one of the best keepers in the Premiership) in the warm up of our first game of the season hardly smacks of intelligence - and before anyone says anything, it was the fact it was within earshot of the player that really stuck in my mind for this long.

Comments like "why are people applauding him" after we've just had a shot saved for example I could handle if said under your breath, but it's the constant need to let everyone else know.

Oh, and if Tope plays shit every week and scores, I'd sign him up.

 :D

You should get that guy closer to the front and just to the right of us up with you.  I think he must take speed or something, he's a little bit mental and it's great fun watching someone in one of the quieter bits trying to get everyone to stand up and sing.  In fact he reminds me of Fred at MkDonalds on new years day that time, with the Tia Maria.

If you think those guys are negative - you try sitting next to my old man at the Pikeys at 5 zip down....!

My view is that we were lucky to get all three points - they had a good pen shout and the fouls on the build up to Obistumblefucks goal looked just that..

Last year we would of lost....thats the difference now.. :D

We hit the woodwork 3 times at Wolves..lost 2 points to a fluke v Oldham..we were lucky yesterday..bout time i say.

I aint moaning!!!

I know that Flash..was just making the point.

it never used to wind me up but it does now. i lost interest in going last season after i couldn't escape the constant moaning. at least if i stay at home and listen on the radio, i can easily switch off the post-match comments from fans and choose not to read the adver site.

but like you say, it doesn't matter where you sit. maybe i'll get to the point where i laugh at it but it just totally ruins it for me.

Just behind me then but opposite side of aisle.

Don't make excuses, not going is the new going.

Radio Listening Tip: Email into [email protected] (or whatever it is) the most random bollocks you can think of, then it's fun listening through the crap waiting for your thing to come up.

It does make it nearly unwatchable. I used to sit next to 2 of the most bitter twats. They used to seem to want us to lose. They'd comment on the quality of the other team, and even be angry if we were winning, because "we didn't deserve to" or some bollocks. It disgusts me.

I'd rather watch the game with 100 people who enjoy football, than go with a few thousand who find it the most painful and life ruining chore of their miserable lives.

Ive had to go back to the Town End because of it.

To be fair though, I think it's always been there, at the same level. It's just that in previous years for every moaner you had 5 fans singing to drown it out. Now the South stand is silent, and all you hear is the negative stuff.

It's always easy to be negative. Makes the moaners feel better about themselves, they can say, look I was right when we fall on our faces.

They'll never stop, its up to the other fans to drown it out with positive stuff.

I have said it before, but I still remember well a bunch of people screaming for McMahon to be sacked after a loss to Hereford in the Mickey Mouse cup. (Chalkie scored for them)

We were several points clear at the top of the league at the time.

i can understand people moaning on saturday as it was poor.but the big difference from last year is that even though we didn't perform well, we still got the result and had decent shape to the side.
i still think a chunk of money needs to be spent on a forward.

I wanted McMahon sacked after every game...regardless of who he managed, too.

As much as I detest the scouse cunt, he did do some things right for a while.

Then he started to do things wrong, horribly wrong, freakishly wrong. The rest, as they say, is history.

Spot on BR

The first full season he was in charge we played some fantastic football...I remember one passing move against Hull City that we kept the ball for about 3 full minutes with 30 odd passes before Grant scored a beauty.

BUT when things went to shit.....he bottled it and turned into a total twat blaming the fans and everything except from himself!

Remember Terry Fenwick taking the piss out of full backs?

He'd pass them, stop, and then head back towards our end just so that he could skin them again. Was fantastic.....

Yeah and Paul Allen constantly skinning their fullback for pace!! fantastic!

Some of the finest football I have ever seen in a game at the CG by any team.

Shame it all turned to shit soon after!

As I see it, we were only any good under McMahon because of his playing ability rather than his (complete lack of) managerial ability. It turned to shit when he could not play any more and could not directly influence things on the pitch and as you say, everyone could see him for the complete twat that he was. We always seemed to have at least 10 players out injured because no fucker wanted to play for him. 95-96 was a fantastic season but what a bell end he was.

On the subject of Fenwick, all I remember him for is breaking opponents legs, having a fight with Nijholt and allegedly slapping his missus. I certainly don't remember that other stuff ???

Beaten to it!!!

best post today!

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/theblues/4574895.Ref_Russell_apologises_for_his_poor_performance/

wWhat a load of bollocks, that player should have been sent off minutes before for a punch. Southend spent the whole match back chatting, pulling shirts, doing late tackles etc whether those decisions were correct or not they deserve nothing for that style of play.

Exactly. Even after the sending off, it wasn't until they had yet another player booked shortly after that they calmed down and started trying to play football instead of whining, snarling and fouling.

i thought southend were shit apart from that lad revell up front.

it was m'voto , their number 20, who was having a bit of slap and tickle with JFL