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This is going to be very unpleasant. I expect loads of loyal dong supporters to make the trip to Swindon (Nothing to do with their league position of course) and we'll be subjected to seeing them leave the CG happy if they win.

Points are vital for us and while we really need a win, I honestly think the best we can expect is a draw.

As long as we don't lose to the horrible bastards.

Good morning Hertha, I'm inclined to agree.

Morning Rich. There's very few games I haven't looked forward to, but this is one.

I always want to beat Franchise - I doubt that part of me will ever change even though it seems that Winkleman is winning the nation over.

For the next three games I'm expecting very little... But that doesn't mean I'm not going to be frantically getting updates in desperate hope for a win from 1500 :)

Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if we beat them! I just have a nasty feeling they'll win and then I'd have to sit there watching the smug wankers celebrate.

Sadly Steve I think you're right. "I've got a bad feeling about this" to quote someone from somewhere.

It was Bollo, from the Mighty Boosh.

I've had a bad feeling about this all week... but this morning something changed... its gonna be a good day, we will win! and if we dont you can stone me.

Yeah, but it's more star wars.

Google agrees with you, but its not the voice I had in my head :D

If your parading your league cup trophey today, your players are going to be all fired up. I think we could lose this today and I wouldn't be suprised if it's an O'hanlon OG

Hello Phil!

I popped on to their forum this morning and one of their posters was going on about the 'great' atmosphere at the CG and how it'll be good to go to a proper football ground.

They're right about the last point, but I think they'll be dissapointed with regards to atmosphere.....

We'll win. 2-0. Job done. Allen and Timlin with the goals :S

Will be a good game im sure - good luck for the rest of the season  :bye:

I don't think our players know the meaning of "fired up"

Hopefully.

But not until the summer.

fucking hell even im going to this one.

that means we'll lose i think

I thought you were a lucky charm, I remember you being to a winning game this season.

This is the first Saturday game I've been to since December 20th.

We can get something out of this game. We have done well against the "better" teams.

 The Franchise's last visit to the CG in 06/07...seems like a distant dream.

 We were top of the league, a pleasant balmy early September evening and we had a midfield of Ince Evans and Weston.  8000+ in and we claw the game back, after JP McGovern had given them the lead with a tidy finish.

 2 pens, do it for us, the first after a surge from Ince into the box....when was the last time any of our midfield got into the opposition box from open play?

 Second a mazy run from Andy Caton, takes about 5 Dongs out of the game until he was upended.

 Sadly it was a mirage....what becomes of the broken hearted?

I appear to be with the majority, it will take a massive turn round in attitude from our players to get a result today, a draw perhaps.

I've had a good feeling since the Cheltenham game that we are going to win today. It wouldn't be Swindon to fail to beat Cheltenham and Hartlepool and then not beat one of the better teams in the league. 2-1 Swindon today. Plenty of stick for that cunt O'Hanlon from the TE as well. Roll on 3 o'clock.

Andy D’Urso is the Ref today. There will certainly be some controversy during the game!

I have a good feeling about today. Will be interesting to see DW's team selection, especially in the middle of the park.

How many Franchise fans are expected today?

I want to say I'm feeling confident about today, but I've done that before and we've ended up losing.

I think the players now know in no uncertain terms that their arses are in the firing line after DW read them the riot act after the Cheltenham game. Lets hope that transfers onto the pitch.

Oh no he's not is he? Shit i forgot it was FA Cup weekend! Well we deserve some luck for once with refs so let's hope he sends O'Hanlon for an early bath.

durso is probably the biggest factor today.

this other than brighton is the one game all year i want to win.

He did one of our games earlier in the season, at home, could easily have sent Brez off but chose not to.  Thought he had a good game that day, cannot be any worse than that cunt against Hartlepool.

Why do I keep going out on Friday nights and being massively hungover for matchday. Stoopid axs.

Anyhoo, win win win win win. It's the fucking franchise.

I wish I could be fired up about this but I'm not. :-/

Just hope we don't lose against the dongs. A win would see me very happy indeed!

COME ON LETS DO THESE!!!!

LETS GET PISSED!!!!

Honestly though I do feel strangely excited about today. About the first time Ive been excited all season. Because it actually means something now. Its going to force these players (who like middle of the table football and collect their cheques on the 1st of the month, thank you very much) to actually try.

Oh yes please.

The only thing that would have made the win at the Dongs better, would have been an O'Hanlon OG.

Hopefully he will make up for it today. Even better if it's the winner.


Unfortuantely, I don't see us beating those scummy bastards

Anybody want to buy me a pint in the merlin?

No

I hope the players are as up for this one as I am. I hate these cunts with a passion and I've been looking forward to this. Nothing would give me greater pleasure ( other than anything bad Scum related ) than to wipe the smile off that smug club stealing bastard Winkelman.
I just hope there's a positive reaction after Tuesday's choker of a performance. I have absolutely no hope, however, that our current bunch of useless tossers can rise to the occasion but please prove me wrong.

i expect us to lose.

If I'm honest I expected us to lose at home to Leicester, Peterboro, Oldham, Scunthorpe but we didn't. If we were playing someone like Crewe or Brighton today we would lose.
I'm hopeful and so have had a wager on Swindon today, something I very rarely do:
MK to be leading at ht Swindon to win at full time priced at 60/1, now that has to be worth a few pennies of hope.

Agreed. I think we are worth backing today.

Jack Smith is yet another player showing a complete lack of understanding of why fans hate certain players in the Adver today.

Smith's interview today is an flippin disgrace.  I hate these players telling the fans what to do at the best of times, but this is a complete mis-understanding. 

Yeah-shut up Smith and do your fucking job,and we'll do ours.O'Hanlon deserves all the stick he's going to get,and more.

under the dotted line by tea time

we've been due a stuffing and this might just be it

i forsee a chant of 'your not fit to wear the shirts' to ring out soon.maybe today?

This hatred of O'Hanlon is very unhealthy. He's a good player, we got some money out of it, and he has gone on to do alright for himself.

I agree with Jacky Smith that we as fans should focus our energies in supporting the team.

Too often we sit and wait for something to happen before making a noise.

Maybe we need a drummer or some brass to create some kind of atmosphere at home games.

We'd be winning the league if we had a drummer

more chance of us winning than chanting something...

Jack Smith in the middle today...

I've always wanted to be a drummer.

Pounding the skins must be very theraputic (sp?).

Unfortunately I am poor at keeping time.

i dont get the o'hanlon thing either.good player

no he wasnt.

he was shit for us and was part of the worst Swindon team I have ever seen plus id rank him at the worst captain we have ever had.

Let it go DV.

He aint werf it.

nah, give him stick and lets hope he gets caught in possesion about 20 yards from goal by Simon Cox as the last man again :)

are ifil and aljofree better captains?

should i go today? i'm torn.

I am. Do it.

O'Hanlon was also the last centre half we had who looked like he might actually score from a corner.

At least a couple of occasions I won money on him being first goal scorer :)

i wasnt going to go but after reading this thread i have decided to, after all its the fucking franchise, might be the last time for a while we get to beat them.

you're going to a game?


i wanted to go because it's franchise. now i don't because i don't want to see us get dicked.

Well neither of them have got us relegated to the bottom tier, so yes.

Is anyone off here going to be wearing sunglasses today?

An hour ago I was almost definitely going to, but now that it has clouded over a bit I am not so sure.

yeah it was o'hanlons fault.i forgot that.

I didnt say that though did I?

Ifil was in the team right next to hanlon, i think he has to be involved in some of the blame?

what does 'neither have got us relegated' mean then?

i'd take him over all our defenders right now.he was maybe to young to captain a poor side,but he's a good player nonetheless.

none of the other players mentioned have captain a relegated Swindon team?

He was a rubbish player, in a rubbish team, in a rubbish defence and he was a rubbish captain.

He probably was too young to be captain, he was hardly a leader. Probably the most silent captain you will ever not hear. Making him captain was just one of the million mistakes that made that season fucking awful.

o'hanlon should never have been captain in 05/06, he was too inexperienced, completely silent and lacked any leadership qualities.

you can't really blame him for that though

Yeah. Got a mates season ticket.

Come and sit with me youth.

Or indeed a proper football club, with proper fans. Meh to O'Hanlon, tbh more disappointed with Wilson's comments about Wankyman's "vision". Vision of soulless plastic clubs, franchised as family entertainment hubs, you can keep it. Hate this lot, hate their chairman, hate their "fans", hate their very existence. And sadly suspect our players don't understand why it's more important to beat these club-stealing scum possibly more than any other this season and if they don't put in the effort to reflect that I'll hate them too

if i go, my dad is paying so i ought to sit with him. my dole scum income won't cover a football ticket :(

This is where we will be at 4.55 p.m.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCoOJ3UDIZc

Team

Brezovan
Amankwaah
Morrison
Greer
Vincent
Mcnamee
Nalis
Timlin
Kanu
Cox
Paynter

Subs

P.Smith
Ifil
Sturrock
Marshall
Razak

Following on from the above...

TOWN (4-4-2): Peter Brezovan; Kevin Amankwaah, Sean Morrison, Gordon Greer (c), Jamie Vincent; Hal Robson-Kanu, Michael Timlin, Lilian Nalis, Anthony McNamee; Billy Paynter, Simon Cox.

Subs: Phil Smith, Jerel Ifil, Mark Marshall, Blair Sturrock, Hamdi Razak.

Franchise (4-5-1): Willy Gueret; Shaun Cummings, Sean O'Hanlon, Jude Stirling, Dean Lewington (c); Sam Baldock, Alan Navarro, Peter Leven, Luke Chadwick, Jemal Johnson; Aaron Wilbraham.

Subs: Nathan Abbey, Carl Regan, ALi Gerba, Flavien Belson, Daniel Powell.

It doesn't really matter whether O'Hanlon was a "good player" or a "good Captain" or whatever-he insulted this club and thats the end of it,he is a cunt of the highest order and I get a lot of pleasure from jeering the bloke.fuck him and his "big club"

We look strong on paper, unfortunately we play like we're made of paper too much.

3 attacking players on the bench this week, with Kanu and McNamee both starting. Good to see some positive intent. Not so sure about Nalis starting but I'll give him a chance before I complain!

Cant see us winning with a centre mid of Nalis and Timmy.Hope I'm wrong.

COME ON YOU REEEEEEEEEEDS!

Why are we wearing blue and black FFS?

To celebrate 40 years since winning the League cup. Blue and black are really relevant to that, remember?!

Oh yeah!

Walsall down to 10 men already! Michael Ricketts the offender

Is it just you and me R4E?

Fuck the Franchise

OOO BILLY PAYNTER

I'm here too :D

Ace

Evening folks.

BIG BILLY BOY

Good stuff.

McNamee with the cross-luxury player?Is he fuck!

Ardiles, thats most unlike you!!

Brighton 1-0 up v Orient

Ah, you win

antipathy is the wrong word there Ardiles

turds

Booo 1-1

Bloody hell. Bollocking at half time please.

Too good to last.  Wouldn't it be great (and so unlike us) to go and get one back?

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE!DEFEND!

Sounded like poor defending again, why doesn't that surprise me.

Flap from Brezovan apparently

Just keep giving it to Macca

Afternoon. We losing yet?

nooooooooooooo, cox is shit  :(

Cox misses sitter!

I'd actually not seen your post before I posted mine.  I'm sure there are more than two of us thinking the same thing, mind.

cox is pathetic. blue square premier at best

HA Poxford just blew a 2-goal lead

Northampton are losing, as are Carlisle. Unfortunately the Northerners are losing to Yeovil, when maybe a draw would be better for us?

Forest Green 2-2 Oxford Utd L
                           Constable (pen) 21
                           Constable (pen) 26
Jones 28
Platt 33
 

I wish we'd just start winning a few forking games to make what everyone else does pretty much irrelevant.  We seem to be mired in a 9 month long competition to prove who is the least shite.

Its true. But until the players start putting in Leicester/Millwall style performances more often, we're going to remain stuck near that dreaded line separating 20th and 21st place

Town go close-Cox

At the game, much better than tues. Mk are poor. Morrison and greer look solid at the back and surprisingly nalis has been the defensive enforcer in the middle, first time I have seen him play really well. Macca is much better than tues, defending as well as creating but Kanu has been poor first half. Cox and paynter have goals in them today, cox should have scored, good save by the keeper. Verdict, not bad first half, could be better. Mk are there for the taking

Goal mouth scramble...why cant we score a second  :cry:

Crewe are winning 1-0.

It's so true.  We're where we are because we don't capitalise..don't put our chances away.

Sort it out lads.  You seem to be playing well.  One point (or less) would be a poor return for your efforts.

Big Bill hits the post!

Jutkiewicz subbed after 50 mins,Thorne 2 goals for Bradford.Brighton and Orient level-hope it stays that way

Come onnnnnnnnnn...we need to take our chances

Leeds 2-1 up at Rovers

Kanu misses sitter!

I getting a strange sinking feeling - tell me when 5 mins to go - so I can too  :(

I'm feeling fairly hopeful.  Come on lads.  You're due three points this afternoon.

Diagouraga equalises for Hereford-nice one!

Another chance -Kanu,come on!We gonna score in a minute!

Crewe ahead again.....

Not for long it's 2-1 to Crewe now!

Cheltenham getting trounced by Leicester. Can't help feeling we should have done the same to them

Fucking hell-Brez misses the ball MKD hit the post

Ginger twat off!

A second yellow already?

axs, stfc dave or lewington....?

See ya. Come on lads!!

oooh, carlisle equalised against yeovil, keeps them both well in the mix.

oh fuck, we're bottom 4.....

Yep Orient winning 2-1 against Brighton.

Orient  ahead now

Sounds like a good game and we've done well but perhaps should be winning. Doesn't look like the other results are going our way :(

We just cannot win games.

Bottom 4-cant say we dont deserve to be

Anyone know what happened to those players wilson tried to get in before todays game

Now sat in the relegation zone. But if anyone had said a point against these and a good performance before the game I think most people would have taken that.

Its been coming

Well, on the bright side that means we're still undefeated against the (current) top 4 this season.
We do need to start chalking up a few more wins though. If we can do that soon then a panic can be avoided, but if we go much longer without getting three-point hauls its going to get very nervy.

It's too late now to be accepting a point against anyone as a good result.  Every game now has to be a win.  I wouldn't have settled for a point against the Franchise before this game and I'm even more gutted we've had to now.

The 3 points for a win system penalises teams that draw a lot of games...and we're suffering big time as a result.

Really? It's all about beating the teams about us because they're all six pointers. Any extra points are a bonus.

What are the odds that by this time next Saturday we'll have 6 points in the bag from our trips to Colchester and Leeds.......

I don't think we have the luxury of being able to take the points on offer in games like today's as optional extras.  I see where you're coming from, but we would be clear of the relegation zone now if we had managed to put away another of our chances.  We didn't, and we've dropped down as a result.

I fear for us but i'm still confident, i think we will be lucky to get 1 or 2 points from our next 2 games.

I cannot see us getting the points from the games we have left, for that reason I believe we will go down

100,000-1

My philosophy is that we can get 3 points today and drop all the points against lower opposition and go down. We need to beat the teams around us as priority.

Obviously you're right in that 3 points against everyone will keep us up though. Can't wait for the next home game, gutted I had to miss today's.

I'll take those odds!!!!!!!!!!

Stranger things have happened......

I'm outside the catchment for BBC Radio Swindon (and too tight to pay for live match commentary).  What is Wilson saying now?

Wilson said he was delighted with the performance, annoyed with the sloppy goal conceded, will score goals have to believe.  Might have the nod on a player Saturday or Sunday (dependent on Luggy being on the piss?).

Happy with Morrison (went off for cramp), Nalis did well.  Overall, if they continue playing like they did today they will okay.

Fantastic performance for the most part. But Simon bloody Cox missed an absolute sitter. Billy hit the post, Kanu somehow failed to connect with the header. Absolutely gutted we didn't get 3 points. Morrison and Greer were fantastic today, as soon as Sean went off with cramp we started to panic. Amankwaah was excellent as was Vincent. Nalis ran around like a headless chicken again, Timlin was good defensively, but his passes were pretty poor. We're in the relegation zone, and full well deserve to be there, but play like we did today, and we'll be fine. Knowing Swindon we'll probably play absolutely shite against the bottom clubs again though.

I saw many encouraging signs today, and I have far more belief than I did after the Cheltenham game. Was a bit confused as to why DW took off Macca and not Robson-Kanu, as I thought Macca was just starting to cause some problems. But we just managed to absolutely dominate a game against a very good side, and I'm delighted with that. Onwards and upwards...

Well, a much improved performance but a poor goal to give away as MK pretty much created nothing else!  I thought their fans were poor considering they brought a fair few and illustrated the plastic-ness of their whole existence.

Anyway, we had such a ridiculous amount of chances and how Coxy missed his chance Ill never know.  That game sums up our season - just not our day.

Still concerned by our lack of midfield presence and still look far too complacent at times - a fresh body in midfield would be reassuring.

Not sure if we will stay up  -based on today I'd say yes but we all know how inconsistent we are and how one good performance means nothing.

Just as I proclaim Paynter should be shot and melted down for glue he does that. A clear MOM performance. Superb.

IT was a great performance all round, and I was expecting a defeat,  but it doesn't matter.  Brez should have done better for their goal IMHO. Cox and Robson-Kanu missed the clearest cut chances you can every have.

Brilliant, shit, indifferent, it's all about the points. And we have 1 when we could and should have had 3.

gutted with a draw as we desrved to win today.the back 4 were all superb,with amankwaa my mom.greer and morrison worked well together,vincent gave his usual no-nonsense display.but i was so impressed with amankwaa today,he really was superb.up and down the pitch,great pace and strength.and he dealt with both players who played left mid for mcdons. i slated both smith and ifil last week on here,and we looked so much more solid at the back today.

in midfield the two centre mids went about it well.both were decent i thought.kanu was good and always a threat.he has skills but doesn't over do it unlike the mostly anonimous macnamee who was bullied off the ball all the time today.kanu is also strong and even under pressure keeps possession,macca cannot do this.
paynter put in a good shift and took his header well.cox was poor today,played the sheringham role really, and the miss was a bad one.
also thought brez was poor as his flapping caused their goal.why doesn't he catch it like he used to?now he tries to punch it alkl the time and he either misses or the punch is weak.

as a team though it was pleasing, and if we continue to play like that we wont go down.

Are there any stats anywhere that show which team has had the most players sent off from the opposing teams over the course of the season  I'd say we'd be up there somewhere.

I quite enjoyed that today. Shame one of our numerous close chances didn't go in for the win.

Also

http://www.herecomestheboss.com/images/news/lg_balamory_archie.jpg
Sonic Youth.

 :D

dead ringer!

Isn't sheee,pretty in pink!

Where do I start? We should have won. Paynter was fanastic. He was strong he held the ball up well and took his goal well as well. Cox was awful for his standards. Terrible miss and then another pretty shoddy miss on the rebound after Paynter hit the post. Miss of the day goes to Robson-Kanu though. what a terrible terrible pathetic schoolboy miss. He had so much time. The keeper had even given up yet he still missed the ball. And then Wilson took Macca off instead of him? I thought Kanu was OK but he faded so much in the second half whereas Macca grew more as the game went on. I'd like to see more of Marshall and i'd have taken Cox off for Razak.

On the whole yes we played well but we didn't win. We should have won by 3 or 4. At the end of the day it's all well and good saying we were unlucky and we played a good side etc etc but if we don't win games when they are there for the taking we will go down. I don't care who we are playing. We have to take our chances and win games. MK took their only decent chance and got a point. That was the difference today.

I agree with all of that. Although i'd say Morrison just about deserved the MOTM award, with Amankwaa and Paynter a close 2nd.

Two points dropped, but onwards and upwards!!

despite the miss kanu was much better than macca.the sub was the right one.

today showed exactly why we're going down and will be playing in L2 next season.

We played well, we were the better team, we created lots of chances, we limited them to very few chances, we hit the woodwork twice, their keeper made some good saves

Bottom line is, we still didnt win.

Down.

Good performance and result, however the cunts should have had at least 4! Kanus fancy back heel wouldve connected on a lucky day but thats life

don't be cruel :(

i wouldn't be seen dead in pink or a kilt.

i thought we played very well today, couldn't fault anyone. we deserved three points but as discussed fluffed too many good chances. if we continue like that, we'll start picking up points... sadly, we're far more likely to go backwards than forwards.

robson-kanu is very frustrating to watch.

In your opinion. More robust, but no delivery again in mine. Plays like he thinks he is better than he is.

I think DV has it spot on (For once :) )

Kanu plays for himself and not the team.  I'd like to see Marshall again though.  Does anyone else think that from long range he looks like a Mini Mr T?

Also, Brez gave them their goal - nearly another one to.

I had this thought that maybe Malpas fucked up the contracts and our players are on a draw bonus?

Arriba hates MacNamee!

of course it's my opinion.one i think the manager shared today too.
macca's ball retention wasn't anywhere near as good as kanu's,and he repeatedly lost his pysical battles.macca has a better delivery for sure but i think kanu was the better player today.

not at all,just didn't perform well today.

marshall was getting bollockings from wilson as he was all over the place postionally too.wilson gave up in the end and threw his arms in the air in despair

I still reckon Reading only pick up his wages if he plays the full 90.

Other than that we'll have  to disagree.

Did O'Hanlon get slated?

I think you're right. That was a good game to watch and a vast improvement from Tuesday. As shit as Paynter was Tuesday he was good today and MOM for me. Cox, however, was crap. Kanu Robson was good and shit in equal measure and should have had 2 goals. I left the game thinking we were unlucky but again we shot ourselves in the foot by a simple defensive fuck up for their goal and missing chance after chance. It wasn't really unlucky, it was us gifting Franchise a point they did not deserve.
I think DV sums it up well - the reality is that we got one point from a game we dominated and that is only 2 points from the last 12. We are in seriuos relegation form.

Archie is my second favourite Balamory character, it's not an insult.

Whoi is your favourite? Hoolie?

 I reckon, those teeth do it for me.

Didnt go today.

Listened on the wireless...

Feel a bit deflated with it all.

Roll on Tuesday.......the start of three wins on the bounce!!

for once I agee with DV. We were dominant, should have by four or five but instead got one point and dropped into the bottom four. You can;t play that well and not win the game. That result today feels far worse than millwall, or leicester.

shame, today offered so much. morrison and greer looked superb and paynter was so, so good.

The same cannot be said for Nalis, who simply isn't good enough.

in other news: met some of the legends toay. Great lads.

Kanu was/is not very good. No more than a league one player at best for him. That said, jemal johnson made him look like christiano Ronaldo!

Theres not a lot more to add really. We should have demolished them, nalis had a good game for once, and Sean morrison put in the best center back performance i've seen from a town player all season

I thought Nalis did well today, probably his best game for us.

Faded in the second half, what happened to Jack Smith today not even in the 16?

Franchise fans singing "My garden shed" = laugh of the day.

Swindon fans telling the Franchise drummer to "shove it up his arse" in The Merlin was even better.

Funny how we all see it differently!!  I thought Kanu was crap today and he should have been subbed, I am not a Macca fan but I thought he did much better today, actually got back and made the odd tackle.  Somebody has slated Nalis, I thought he put in a decent shift today.  Cox poor by his own standards, Paynter easily mom for me.  Not Brez's fault for goal, Morrison had the chance to clear and just lobbed it to the edge of the area, then the goal had an enormous amount of luck, ball going nowhere before it hit Wilbraham's outstretched leg.  Bloke next to me slated Akmanawah from start to finish, I thought he had a fair game.

comedy, I thought Nalis was awful. two yards off the pace, contributed nothing IMO. Game just pased him by.

Morrison was superb, agreed.

also, why the hell were Franchise seemingly time wasting from the middle of the first half whilst drawing 1-1 against Swindon?

They took their time over just about everything, in particular the goal keeper.

That was a lot better today!  Probably the only players I could seriously fault were Coxy and Kanu!  Coxy played so deep for the entire match that Paynter was up front on his own. Kanu, could and should have scored 2 and wasn't having the best of games to be fair.  Timlins passing was a little off as well if being critical, but apart from that it was a good performance.

Macca looked like a different player, chasing everything down as well as putting in the odd tackle to add to his quality delivery, exactly the sort of performance that he should be putting in on a cold wet Tuesday night as well. (this statement has been included to keep his agent Adje happy ;D)

That back 4 is the back 4 that should start next season.  Morrison was absolute quality and with Greer alongside him talking to him he will only get better.  Manky was good also, and even though not as composed as Smith going forward, is a better defender which is the more important side of the position.

Paynter worked his arse off and Cox seems to want to play centre mid for some reason.

We need that sort of performance for the rest of the season if we have any hope of staying up.

On another note, does anyone have the email address for the stadium manager and Nick Watkins, I am pissed off about something and need to vent my spleen.

Thanks

i thought amankwaah played well.

cox was poor, always remonstrating with the referee. get on with it coxy.

paynter was immense. greer and morrison too.

....and the goal was clearly Brez' fault. If he'd have caught it then that would have been that. It wasnt even a high cross. You expect your keepers to catch those.

What makes his punching even worse is, he has shit punches than send the ball down instead of up and out

I very much doubt cox chose to play so deep

I think the lack of boo's today support my thoughts that O'Hanlon is a good player who has done well for himself, and that we are over that now. He had an 'alright' game.

We probably should have won but overall it is a good point against a strong side. The positives I take are that I didn't see anyone out there today who was better than our best: As per usual, when we walk out Cox is the best player on the pitch, though he should he scored today, and was relatively subdued.

Morrison was good, but helped enormously by Greer, who impresses me more by the day: We must try and sign this geezer if we can.

As I have said before, the key games for us are ORIENT and HEREFORD at home.

I did chuckle to myself when the away fans sang "you only sing when you're winning", because that was by quite-some-way the most away fans they've brought here, coinciding with them doing well. And still less than we took there.

The relegation battle goes up to 17th, and we still play all of those who are active.

It is still in our own hands.

agree with all of that berniman.

Yes, Brez could have done better but Morrison had the chance to clear and didn't.  First rule of defending - clear your lines!

first rule of goal keepering, catch the ball!!!!

Mr. Michael, even if we beat both Orient and Hereford, thats only an extra 6 points. That wouldnt be enough so we have more than just two vital games left.

They are all cup finals but then I doubt any of our players have actually played in a cup final.

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Absolutely battered we were. That should have ended Swindon 7 Franchise 2

No complaints regarding the red card, even a captain can only gob of so much and a silly trip for the second yellow.

At least he's honest!

Except for his pin point accurate cross on to Paynter's head for the goal.

The referee was pretty poor to be honest. Who was he?

yep

D'Urso.

Cheers Juddie!

Now does anyone want to give me an email address for the stadium manager and Nick Watkins?

that c*nt winkleman was sat in front of me and at the final whistle he said: "you let us out of jail". I agreed with him, which really annoyed me.

I wasnt there,but i think giving greer the captaincy as a loan player is something wilson has done as incentive for him to come here at the end of his contract at the end of the season.

also with whats been said about cox being  too deep, i think that because its been said timlin and nalis were passengers for some parts,and were also defensily minded,maybe cox was the link between attack and defense if the ball was played down the middle? radio said he was seen as an attacking midfielder at reading, so maybe its just his game and wilson told him to try it out today...just possibilities, good to see players putting effort in, bit of an arse about the result.

I would've twatted him juddie.

samdy, I had to stop myself, believe me. He talk a lot of shit. I kept saying things like: "this lot are the worse team I've seen here this year" and  " greer is so much better than o'hanlon, and he was free", which I think wound him up.

was tempting to smack him, espeially as I'd had a couple.

Was it the fact that 'somebody' forgot to mark the line out on the DRS side Stratton bank half. Or was it they ran out of pasties. Both terrible crimes I think you'll agree.

Juddie you would have achieved legendary status  ( if you haven't achieved it already ) if you'd have chinned the fucker. You might have had to do a 6 month stretch but that would have been more than compensated for by my eternal thanks.

They ran out of beer in the Arkells at half time. Criminal!

That was a 'dropping the nut' chance gone!

Di Matteo reckons they should have had a penalty in the second half for handball. Having not been at the game, I'll just assume he's talking bollocks.

No, I've seen them given but it would have been harsh. Shot hit defenders hand, which wasn't completely by his side. But ball to hand IMHO.

I have no idea what Berniman is getting his knickers in a twist about, but I saw what could only be described as a very near miss in the car park at the final whistle.  Stewards are supposed to hold the cars back to allow the foot people to get away, some cunt in a jag decided he wasn't waiting, nearly knocked down a little kid, steward ran to car, and nearly got knocked over himself.  And the cunt still didn't stop.  Get me the stadium manager's e-mail adress as well please!

ha ha. there was one incident where I almost went wading in. he had a go at the ref for one of his players getting booked for kicking the ball away. he stood up and said he'd never seen anything like it. I told him his player kicked the ball away, got a yellow, that's how it works and could he sit down for f*ck sake. I then aid to my oldm man, you may have to meet my outside toay, cos he's gonna get a smack in the chops before th game is out.

The ref had a bit of problem with handball all game. Gave it against Greer for a ball to hand incident and then didn't spot any one of 3 of theirs that were hand to ball.

There was a shot blasted in and all the dons fans shouted for hand ball, it really was a rocket of a shot and I thought it hit their player anyway but the guy behind me said that it was a blatant handball it all went so quick I didnt see a thing.

Also I feel dirty saying this, fair play to the dons fans for giving our cup heros a standing ovations at the start. Other than that thought they were fucking shit with a stupid fucking drummer bastard cunts.

Thought Nalis had his best game for us today. Still wasn't good enough, but he looked a lot more determined and put himself about a bit.

Gutted we didn't win that today. Although I felt we bossed the game I'm dubious as to whether we could produce this kind of performance against the likes of Hereford. Haven't quite given up the ghost yet but I'm quite prepared for relegation.

I'm staggered peope think nalis played well. thought he was laughably bad.

funny old game!

You should feel dirty , if not even ashamed of yourself - cunts every single one of them.  

Oh and Durso is a blind cunt. Emphasis on cunt.

agreed, durso was fucking awful.

I heard on the Radio that it was that price D'Arso reffing and my heart sank. :doh:

Still  havent forgiven him for giving Wycombe 20 minutes of extra time so that cunt mooney could score.

durso got it wrong in the lead up to our goal.they should have had a corner,we got the goal kick then scored.

i dont get why kanu isn't getting praise on here? yeah he should have scored, but his all round play was good today.nalis was good too imo.slow but pretty effective generally i thought

It's the best I've seen out of him, and I am of the opinion that generally, he is dreadful, and past it.

When I saw the squad with no centre-mid on the bench I was apprehensive about Nalis lasting 90mins, but I actually thought he did ok.

I thought he got stuck in and won a few headers. Oh well.


They stole a club, stole their songs off milwall and the brownies. Now it's clear they are trying to steal our history as well.

i thought today his passing was good but he's always in the wrong place at the wrong time cos he's too shit and old.

Just my humble opinion.

he's never gonna dominate a game.

FWIW I thought Kanu and macca both played well today. Macca battled for a change, good cross for the goal, Kanu is rough round the edges but  has a physical presence macca doesn;t have.

Whilst I would not hesitate to do filthy things to Miss Hoolie (and you can tell she'd love it), I have to say that my favourite Balamory character would be Spencer. He has the best song.

This comment from Moocamp makes me feel sick.

PC Plum - his song is ace.....

After slagging him down on Tuesday night i thought (by listening) that Macca had a better game.

Macca worked harder, put alot less crosses in than Tuesday but they were better crosses. The one for Paynter was spot on. He seemed a little more direct but he did lose possesion alot.

Kanu looks better cutting in from the right, like Macca got it wide and some ok crosses. Neither were brilliant, neither were poor.

Whether our fans appreciate him or not, Kanu is a good footballer and will spend his career playing at a level higher than where we are right now.

As my man arriba said, I think they should have had a penalty in the second half, but as I have said before the referee didn't have a good game at all.

Having said that, the red card was justified.

Ultimately maybe, but he has a shed load of learning to do before he reaches a higher level.

The ref may have been rubbish, but at least the cards were for MK and not us :)

Another comment on today's game: I kept on forgetting that we weren't the team in red.

In fact my friend sat next to me spent the first ten minutes inadvertently cheering on the Franchise.

They should change it back to 2 points for a win. We'd be 19th (swap places with crewe) and be two points clear of the relegation zone.

The bloke sat behind me tapped me on the shoulder and asked me who their number 6 was and why I was jeering him ::)

remind me why we played in black? the 69 final we played in white?

what about if it were 2 points for a score draw?

I thought the whole reason behind the black kit was because we werent allowed a white one because Franchise play in white...

....then they didnt even wear white!

No, I sit in the front row right behind the disabled, and they now do not allow you to go down near the pitch because the disabled fans have complained.  I can understand why they would do that whilst the game is going on, but what is wrong with going down near the pitch at half time or after the game.

My lad would like to go to the front to get autographs and we usually go to the front to applaude the team when they play well, but because the disabled fans have complained this is now not allowed.  Though the disabled fans still want their family that is sitting behind them in the stand to be able to come down the front as an exception.

I have been watching the moaning happen all season and now this has got my goat and I want to vent my spleen over it.  Yes I know they are disabled and deserve a certain amount of flexibility, but when a stand of 3000 people is banned from being able to go down to pitchside to applaude the players and all get directed down 4 or 5 stairways, just to keep maybe 20 disabled fans happy, I think this is wrong.

Am I wrong in having this point of view because of their disabilities?

Email addresses anybody?

But don't tell anyone about that email address. It's a secret.

OK I won't cheers!

 ;)

Jammy cunts, totally lost count of the number of times we should have got the second, thought we were good today, for me Amankwaa was MOM, both Greer and Morrison were good but I thought Kev put in a textbook full-back's performance today.

Thought Nalis was ok, won his headers and got on with it but he did misplace quite a few passes, particularly 2nd half.

Have to say I was suprised it was Macca that gave way, I'm not in the Kanu's shit camp but I think we're more likely to see the end product we need from Macca - meh...

Good game, should have been 3 points - I'm signing off for a few games now, gonna miss four, hope we're out of the bottom four when I get back...

He probably hasn't - like all the plastic shit that follow his "club", he's only been watching football for a few years. Should have nutted him, juddie. Even if the magistrates didn't take the view that it was wholly justified by him being a fucking disgrace to humanity which would have been the only fair judgement and dismissed the case, you'd have got off with a fine, and I'd have been glad to pay that for you.

On a brighter note, we played as well today as we did badly the previous two Tuesdays. As juddie said, should have won by three or four. And while we have dropped into the bottom four, there's a few more sides have dropped back into the mix. Wilson just needs to get it into the players' heads they have to play like that every game and not just against the top sides. No good doing that against Franchise, Leicester and (probably) Leeds if we don't also do it against Hereford, Crewe, Northampton, Yeovil etc.

In 80/81, we went into the last game of the season needing a point to stay up v Brentford.

The only time I can remember us getting by our own efforts on the final game of a season.

It was the last season of 2 points for a win....of our last 13 games we only won the one, but drew 9.. under that system, draws were good results.

The following season, we couldn't adjust and went down to Div 4 for the first time with 52 points....Wimbledon went with 53.

 We won 13 and drew 13....6 more wins this season might see us safe.

They seem pretty relieved on their forum, typical of the comments are :     How the game didn't end up 7-2 to them I'll never know. They were robbed.

We got that draw against Walsall a couple of seasons back!?

my half time coffee was shite.first time i've sampled it this season and i wont bother again.luke warm water and a pretty poor tasting cup of coffee really.

That'll teach you not to drink beer!  tbfi 've found the coffee in the Arkells ok this season.

well it wasn't today good chap.using hot water would be a bonus

Was at the Brentford game, I think other results were important, because with about half an hour to go the game changed we were not taking any risks and would be OK as long as we got a point.  There could have been a remote chance we needed three points up until that point (if memory serves).  Brentford appeared happy with a point and they adopted a similar approach. Kamara and a few other players were swigging champagne in the stand after the game for a "warm-down".

I think Brentford helped us, they didn't want to lose the game, and appeared to make little attempt to win it.  

Fair enough. I took my lad down there before the match, but presumably this is OK? Well tough shit really because we are doing it anyway.

Why was Wilson so happy after the game.  I think for the following reasons:

 Did ok without Peacock, Ifil (starting) and Smith, the back four now picks itself. 

 Macca was effective, will be better with more muscle in central midfield.

 Good chance of a midfield loanee (Wilson seemed reasonably confident). 

 Easton and Kanyuka might be fit for upcoming games.

Only issue was wasteful finishing, and of course the obligatory sloppy goal conceded.

....and the fact we didnt win and are now in the bottom four.

even though we are in the drop zone,i am more optomistic about our survival in league 1 than i was before todays game.

The second half we battered them, we shouldl have had three points.
MK must be happy to go home with a point.

We wlll stay up, it is in our hands.

yeah, just as staggering as Morrison getting MOTM.
He wasn't even the best centre half in a Town shirt.

Now I'm not a Paynter Fan, but he was clearly our best player today

Anankwah for me today.

i've already stated that i thought amankwaa was mom so agree drs,but greer ran him close.i'd have morrison in 3rd.all 4 of the back 4 did very well today.paynter did have a good game but nowhere near mom for me. he did one pathetic dive a few mins before he scored to try to gain a free kick.anyone else see that?he was lucky not to get booked for it

He also did it in the first few mins. He was ok today but like you say no where near mom in my opinion anyway. Anyway good performance if not result but mk will play better teams than us and get results.

anyone else think cox is suffering some sort of mental block about his 20th goal?




cos i don't. although he hasn't scored for aaaages

Surprised nobody has accused him of doing a Cureton an purposely missing to engineer a move by getting us relegated. Or whatever it was Cureton was supposed to have done.

See I am the opposite.

Today is weird. I was really chuffed with the performance but it has had the opposite effect on me. Against the likes of Cheltenham and Hartlepool we didnt win but we knew our team could have played better.

Today we played really well...BUT...still didnt win.

we play poor, we draw
we play good, we draw
we play well, we still draw

Performances go out the window now, it really is all about the points. I'd rather we played fucking gash today and scraped the most un deserved 1-0 win you will ever see in the history of football.

IOB did mention it reminded him of Cureton.

yeah i see what you are saying dv.
one thing i am sure about is that wilson is evaluating his squad and giving some individuals playing time.i have read some comments thinking marshall was a positive.i thought he did one good thing(tried to beat his man and got a corner out of it)but i dont think we will see him play again.

Why the fuck do people think Easton is the answer to our situation. He was good last season and has been bollox when has played this season. I'm firmly in the DV camp of realism about our situation

on a positive note, i really liked our kit today

It depends what context you look at the game in. In isolation, or if we were mid table we'd pretty much all be saying it was a great performance but a shame we didn't score and get the three points.

Look at it in the context of the season we have let two vital points get away. Two points that could end up being the difference between relegation and survival.

We still have the teams around us. We have to hope that somehow we defy our form against lower half teams and beat them.

Amankwaah was deemed to be shit when playing for Malpas. Wilson seems to have got some good performances out of him. Who knows, maybe the same can happen with Easton?

I do know what you're getting at though and agree on this point. Too many times people think the solution is a different player and it turns out not to be the case. That's not to say a player cannot come in a rejuvenated player, just like Amankwaah.

There can be no 'camp of realism' though. We've spent practically all season outside the drop zone, we're not leaking as many goals and suddenly people seem to think the 'realistic' viewpoint is that we're not good enough and we're going down. There are two sides to the argument, the optimistic and the pessimistic. The realistic only becomes true if you're in Cheltanham's shoes and you're a s good as down. Until then, everyone else around the drop zone has got a good a chance as any to stay up or go down.

I dont suppose Cox has a 'can get out of his contract for free if the team get relegated' clause in his contract

He's not been 100% for ages now, I think he needs a rest. Trouble is, you can't afford to rest your leading goalscorer, especially when Blair Sturrock seems to be his direct replacement.

Marshall didnt see much of the ball when he came on but the most obvious thing of note was he is alot more direct than McNamee and Kanu. He got his head down and ran. He actually got in behind the full back a few times. Two crosses got blocked for corners and the other time Lewington took him down because he knew he was away from him.

Now is really not the time to throw someone like Marshall in to asses him as we need points desperatly but maybe his directness might help us but I've not seen enough to know what his end product or defending is like


I think the difference between say Easton and Peacock this season is that Peacock has had a run in the team and Easton hasnt. They were our midfielders last season and they did a good job of it. Peacock hasnt lived up to it this season. Neither has Easton but Easton hasnt played enough. I'm a firm believer that someone playing every week is better than someone who isnt. The example would be say Shaun Wright-Phillips, awesome at Man City playing every week, first name on the team sheet. Went to Chelsea didnt play every week and is now a poorer player for it.

I'd like to see Easton given a run of games in midfield to see if he can be like he was last season but thats more out of hope than logic or anything else


At the moment I am looking purely at points. We do not win enough, the odd draw here and there is alright if you back them up with a few wins. Leicester and Millwall were good draws but then we go and lose to Hartlepool. We'd have been better off losing to Leicester and Millwall and beating Hartlepool.

Any other time in the season and I suppose i'd be happy about todays performance but the fact is we still cant seem to buy a win even when we play well like today. If our best, or at least if our decent form isnt enough to win games then what is? At the moment it looks like a team like Leyton Orient will drag themselves out of because in every 5 games they lose 2 and win 2 and draw 1. We on the other hand lose 0 and draw 5. They get 7 points we get 5.


Of course Amankwaah wasnt 'shit' under Malpas our stupid over re-active short term memory fans thought he was shit under Malpas. He came in to cover for injury and did alright, nothing like his current form but far from shit. Then he had a mare against Huddersfield and I dont think he played again till Wilson came in did he?

I'm not saying he was brilliant but he was ok under Malpas apart from Huddersfield but thats the one most of our fans remember. Not for example his first game away at MK when he was pretty damn solid.

Wilson and Amankwaah have previous, I mean Wilson gave Amankwaah his first professional contract and kept faith with him after he spent a long time out injured after his car crash. Wilson obviously rates him and you can see the confidence in Amankwaah, he's probably been our only improved player under Wilson, all the rest have been much the same.

Of course you are correct Si when you say our defence is much more solid but we dont look as good going forward. I used to fancy us to score every game but as soon as Cox hit the bar today it just seemed like it wasnt going to be our day. For once I dont have all the stats but Cox seemed to score more under Malpas. Now maybe we've sacrificed some of Cox attacking play to shore up the team (ie Cox dropping deep) I dunno.

Maybe Cox is just burnt out. I suppose this is probably his first actual full season and he's probably played more than all our players. He missed one game through suspension and got subbed off once but I think he's played every other minute

the thing with easton from my point of view is that he was superb last season.he has had a dip in form this year but hasn't had the chance under wilson to get it back.i have slated amankwaa as i thought he was utter shite.but today he was excellent.

The only midfielder who has strung a consistent run of 3 or 4 decent games together this season has been Pook,. Admittedly, he has been shite in some games but he had a real purple patch that no others have. Easton does not impose himself on the opposition. Peacock runs out of steam and can' pass. Timlin is a 1 in 10 players, gives the ball away far too cheaply and does a lot of really dumb, stupid tackles, Nalis is shot, Kanyuka is a promising player but not a midfielder,  JPM was better when Malaps went but has zero bottle, etc, etc.
I'm not talking up Pook, merely stating that the others are equally as shite if not worse - our midfield is booolx and it doesn't matter what combination you use, they're all equally ineffective.

Whilst that is all true.

Easton, Peacock, Timlin and JPM all did a good job for us last season.

They were good enough players then and they have all suddenly gone downhill this season for whatever reason. I guess alot of our fans hope they will regain the form they had under Sturrock.

Although this probably says more about Sturrock and his coaches compared to Wilson and our current coaches than the players in question.

Apart from Comminges did we lose any first teamers over the summer? Same squad, worse results

Easton was not superb last season, he was the best of a bad bunch. He was OK to good, nothing more but still good enough to be in the top 3 of Player of the Season. That's basically because the others were shite and the bar was set so low.

but thats not true at all though.

we were far from shite last season and the likes of Comminges, Aljofree, Ifil, Vincent, JPM, Easton, Peacock, Cox & Paynter all had decent seasons.

Easton wasnt the best of a bad bunch last season, he was the best of a decent squad that comfortabley finished mid table

cannot agree chalkies.last year he was the centre mid we had been lacking for a few years.he was consistant all year and was robbed of player of the year by comminges

Oh come on, we were shite last season but it eas more excusable as we'd just gone up. Easton wasn't robbed of POS by Comminges, Comminges was the wild card that came good.Technically he was a bit dodgy but he won us over with his desire. He was also quite a hard bastard as Swansea will no doubt testify to.

how on earth where we shite last season? we finished mid table?

First of all, we were shite last season because I'm pissed now and tomorrow morning will not be fun and my memeory is being selective but we were. thats my argument.

I thought Cox was shite again today. I don't buy the attacking midfielder role bollocks. It's been said for ages that he gets through too much fucking work in all the wrong areas. He's a fucking striker - end of. Bout time Wilson told him that in no uncertain terms if he hasn't done so already.

Agree that Kanu has loads of potential and is a quality player but he's in Aljofree's 'playing for myself' gang at the moment. He took bollockings from Vincent, Greer and Nallis on 3 seperate occasions today for being too fucking selfish and keeping the ball then losing it, rather than just playing an obviously easy pass to keep a flowing move going. He'll probably develop with a bit more experience and games under his belt but we need his creativity during the run in. Not knocking him too hard as can take the piss when he wants to and gives us options when he's in the mood. I'd just prefer to see him playing a genuine part in the team rather than cunting around as an individual who's motivated only for himself.

I don't know how many compo exec lounge pints Juddie put away before the match - sadly not enough to have chinned the ugly fucking Franchise supremo, Winkledick - but I thought Nallis and Timlin pretty much ran the midfield today. If you look at the chances we made and the overall restrictions we put on franchises' goal scoring opportunities, it suggests that either they weren't up to much as a team, or our central midfielders bossed the middle of the park and kept them quiet. Nallis and Timlin have both had extreme periods of fucking shittness this season and have rightly been slaughtered, but I thought they did all the simple things right today.

Anyway. it was a much better and more committed performance from everyone today. I thought Wilson was either fucking brave or fucking stupid to drop Ifil after one shit performance under him last Tuesday, but sticking Morrison in paid off as he had a very solid game alongside Greer, and Ifil looked much stronger and more confident when he came on.

Wilson does seem to be taking firm control of the squad. He clearly doesn't give a fuck about reputations or the opinions of others and just gets on with playing and motivating a side to do a job for him. He does need to get some wins on the board soon, but I suspect he knows exactly who's going to be on his retention list and who's going to be fucked off at the earliest opportunity when the season finishes.

It was ace to see the 69 players get such a good round of applause today. Franchise fans must of wondered what that strange looking silver cup thingy was that was being handed around and held up high by the ex town players, but at least some of the thieving cunts had the good grace to stand up and clap some genuine fucking top-draw legends of the game they've recently latched on to - the plastic motherfucking cunts!


 

delta you rock.post more often!!!!!
can you go back to the more abusive style though please?

FWIW I agree with you, I was just trying to give an explanation of the bitter/sweet reaction to this result. I'm hoping we are wrong and the more optimistic are right.

On Easton he was superb last season. Something can't be right with him to be overlooked by malpas, Byrne and now Williams though.

I agree with chalkie here, bar one or two performances last season we were crap, and it's been the same for the last 10 years at least, seen it before though we'll be on the way up shortly, we just need to stay up this season, then i feel the tide may turn. Get rid of the deadwood in the summer and all will be bright.

Anyone see the prick with the mk badge tattoo on his forehead. Oh how i mocked him

You absolutely battered us and deserved to win by 6/7 goals at least. By far the best side we have played all season.

If you continue to play like that you will rocket up the table

Re the silverware - we have 2 very nice shiney trophy's of our own thanks

The problem is we only perform against good teams.

It's no point playing well against top ten sides if you can't get a result against those at the bottom of the table.

Fucking annoying and infuriating.

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still enroute back, we were foobing shite today! Only one team wanted to win today and im more embarassed about nicking a point today than nicking a club! We deserved to get beat 6/7 nil.

If you had the brains to realise what I ment by that...oh never mind! :-[

Di mateo agrees with you cowshed. Problem is we wont play like that against anyone in the bottom half

Sean O'Hanlon in the News Of The Worlds League 1 Team of the week.

What an absolute pile of shit. Most of the sparse write up was about a 'penalty' the RDM claimed they should've had.

Do these shit rags actually send anyone to lower league games, or do they take the score off ceefax and make the rest up?

Laughable.

They all take the same reports/ratings from a PA stringer who it seems usually watches the game with his back to the pitch.

Funny old game isn't it - well maybe that performance can spur your players on. It was almost a lesson in how to play the game!

O'Hanlon is a full on wanker, end of. He was shit. I made my feelings about him perfectly clear throughout the game, the pikey shellsuit wearing cunt.

On the bright side ive had the shits this morning thanks to the following:

A shit burger in the winners, that had more fat than Vanessa Feltz.
A shit hotdog before the game.
A shit bovril before the game

And finally the vegetable soup that was the foulest i have ever had.

At least the bud in the legends was ok... :)

Or maybe you ate too much you greedy cunt

Oops i forgot the chinese when i got home

Unfortuantly hes having to drop into midfield to make up for the problems we have there. hes the only one that runs around and harrases other midfielders, at certain points yesterday he was like a box to box runner, a midfielder type we really don't have.

Stop arse licking, no-one likes you and no-one ever will, now fuck off you ignorant franchise cunt.

Billy Paynter was immense yesterday. My MOTM by a country mile. Oh Timlin your shit!

I'm not sure he'll get the message axs....you may have to be a bit more direct.

agreed, paynter doesn't win every ball that's pumped towards him so he's after the knock downs.

it was weird seeing him play sweeper a few times though

We got battered from to start to finish, I say you were the better team on the day and that's arse licking?

You clearly are cunt!

So angry, so bitter...Mummy not breast feed you as a child or did you dad do it?  :cry:

As for the sensible people on here - good luck for the rest of the season!

Bye all  :bye:

You are a disgrace.

If you come to us again in the near future, which I doubt, please do not bring that fucking drum.

Bye Phil!

And how dare you suggest there are sensible people on this forum.

one amusing quote i heard yesterday
"fucking hell, imagine how many goals cox would've had if he'd scored all his chances"

perhaps that why he's playing in league 1, possibly league 2 next year!

leggett trying to get into a fight with some morons about cox and kanu being from reading was pretty funny.

 :) :nod:

 
Noticed we celebrated the 40th anniversary of our league cup win yesterday? It's a thing called histroy, Where is your history?

Not sure who said it but Ifil wasn't dropped after one bad performance, he's been crap all season.  Morrison should not have been dropped in the first place, as he has had a much better season than Jerel. I hope Morrison's injury that forced him off was not too serious as he plays in a maturity beyond his years.

Oh and good to see Macca get another assist, and win a few corners yesterday, the lad deserves his place in the starting XI.  Amankwaah played very well looks like he's going to turn out to be a very good signing.

I think it was cramp that Morrison went off with, so hopefully he'll be available for Colchester.

New ground.

Looked like cramp to me too.

It was a bit of a contrast after seeing morrison playing like maldini to seeing ifil tearing around the field like a headless baboon.

Pretty good report here from the Dongs.
http://www.clubfanzine.com/MK_dons/v2.showNews.php?id=18472

Did anyone else see the MK fan dressed in full on leopard print silk/satin suit?

Danny Wilson said it was cramp on the radio after the match...so cramp it is!

Yes. I assume he was part of their "Supporters club crew".

Fair play to the dongs fans clapping our 69 heros, twice.

Still think letting McDons wear red at the CG was an utter disgrace.

Paynter had a good game. Timlin didnt. Everyone else did pretty well I thought?

Good full blooded exciting game. Weve had 2 out of the last 4 home games that were actually worth money to watch, which is a better ratio than the rest of the season!

Only wins are good enough now and Im looking forward to it. Our team obviously doesnt give a fuck about the cups and were not good enough to be top 6, so this is the only way the season was ever going to be exciting! Bring it on!

Introducing Wolfie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oi3GaEqiTc

As if we don't have enough fucking reasons to be ashamed of ourselves. He also sells that well-known tramp mag in the shopping centre, and is available for transfer to the County Ground when the window re-opens this summer. If he hasn't drank himself to death.

You can tell me to fuck off now!

I see that fella all the time out peddling the big issue wearing his Franchise clobber, never once given him money, he's gonna spend it all on the scumbags...

Couldn't agree more. If I dish out money to tramps, I want to see it spent on Tennants Super and amphetamines.

They're rubbish options for a tramp. It's all about White Ace and Ketamine.

Ketamine isn't going to make a noticable difference to anything that fucker does.

If he is not Winkelman's good looking twin, then im not a franchise wanker

He gets around that Phil bloke!

 ;)

No offence but fuck off back to the moo camp.

When I say no offence I don't mean it..

You given your sister the afternoon off, you inbred cunt?

Yeah, doing your misses instead.

i do enjoy the intellectual banter

I'm married to your sister, you six-fingered daft cunt!

To be fair Batch usually I don't condone the use of personal abuse just because of the team they may support, but with franchise supporters I endorse it completely.  I hate those club stealers just as much as Oxford and that's saying something.  What they've done is simply not right.

Personally I wouldn't allow them on here, would rather have real supporters of proper football clubs on here, like OF for example, than listen to the thoughts of franchisees.

Poor you! Must be nice to stand up and be counted for all those poor folk who now follow AFC Wimbledon, but did fuck all for you when you were demoted two leagues and subsequently threatened with closure.

But they didn't give a shyte. It was easier to enjoy lording it in the Premiership than worry about smaller clubs. Deserting bunch of fuckers ended up getting exactly what they deserved. Bollocks to ya!

Yeah jan, you wimbeldon following whore

That's pretty good. Only took you 10 minutes. Did you have adult help.

Jan, I respect Oxford as the right to exist as a club. I just don't like them. I'd gladly buy OF a pint if I ever met him.

Logic dictates most MK fans are OK as people. But they have absolutely no right to an opinion on football. What I am saying is as football fans they are all cunts and have a natural home. It's called the moocamp.

Think I prefer cowshedphil, I've met him, nice bloke. I won't resort to abuse though, you fucking cock.

Aren't AFC doing quite well at the moment? Hopefully, what goes around...

That's irrelevant.

I don't think I've ever seen Batch quite this angry......

Of course, just saying, at least he's constructive with his posts. Must dig out Birdys login for moocamp since they went on that banning spree..

I know Phil extremely well. Trust me. He's a cunt!  ;D

i don't really see how that is remotely relevent but i'm curious

did you support a team before the Franchise were formed?
do you recognise the fact that you effectively stole a football club?
do you consider the history of wimbledon fc part of the history of Franchise? i.e. who won the 1989 fa cup trophy?

Anyway - I'm fucking off. This is a lousy forum and it's brilliant that you lot brand us as plastic with support like yours. Over-excited kids wearing AFCW scarves to send out a message? How wonderfully 'proper' of you!

Good luck in staying up. Your sides performance yesterday genuinely deserved more than it got. It was just your support that let you down.

1988, you numpty!

damn, my plan was foiled

Wow, fucking off lasted nearly 40 seconds :D

For me  conversing on football with them validates MK's right to exist as a club.

Fine if other people are willing to let bygones be bygones. Just do it on the moocamp. I have no desire for their bile to infect this site.

Then its not my forum.

They are cunts as fans though.

How do I go about finding out how many away fans were there yesterday?

I'd guess at just under 800.

He's still logged in though.

This thread is ace.

720 odd away fans i think

Well said Batch and echoes my thoughts exactly. I thuoght I was going to throw up walking past some of their fans yesterday. It also makes me proud that Swindon have been some of the most vocal against this abomination.

Two wrongs don't make a right, we all choose to be for or against the actions of others. I feel that the club deserted them rather than the other way round. And I'm right.

Death to football franchisement!

'We want to return to being a sport, with each club connected to its own community' Michel Platini this week.

In this country we can only see the £££ signs. But there are signs that people at the top are beginning to realise that clubs like Franchise make a mockery of football.

Hang on, you're from Bletchley...

i used to go raving in bletchley good times.i fucking hate mcdons more than any other team

The Sanctuary - never went there.  I also hate the dons more than any other team.

http://www.moocamp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29738

They really really really don't have a fucking clue about football.

It's alright for you. I have to sit with the fuckers every week.

Personally i dont like them in the slightest, BUT, you cant blame the fans who are MK based,supporting what they have, i've got the problem with the ex wimbledon fans who think it's the same team, that is the bit i cant fathom, whatever the rights and wrongs of upping sticks et al. They should have stuck with their team, who will most prob be back in the league next 2-3 years, will they swap back?

They did. It was the other lot who swanned off to start a new side while their proper side was left to die at Selhurst. Those Wimbledon fans who had the bollocks to stand up to the intimidation, threats and media manipulation from the militant ranks at Kingsmeadow deserve a fucking medal, not critisism from some under-informed bunch of do-right protagonists who thinks it's fashionable to indulge in football politics.

We're supposed to be plastic, but posters like yourself typify the post Euro 96 new fan more than anybody. That's why we laugh at you!

Bletchley, i haven't got involved in this because I really can't be bothered but please do fuck off now, you are boring me!

That is all!

Fuck off, you deluded Milton.  The fact that you continue to argue the point that Wimbledon fans abandoned the club (rather than the other way around) shows how removed you are from mainstream opinion.

You support a stolen club.  You will never be accepted.  Now run along and irritate the next set of unfortunates your brand will be playing.

Come back on here next year and we'll say exactly the same.

And the year after that and the year after that.

You will never be tolerated by us.

Mainstream opinion? Most of the fuckers in this country thought they were doing the right thing by voting the Labour party back into power!

Part of the fun in supporting our lot is the fact it fucks off the likes of you lot, who are so 'Johnny-Come-Lately' with your attitudes that it tickles the arse of me when you accuse us of plasticity.

Swindon used to be a decent club, with fans who could hold their own against the likes of Oxford and the Bristol sides. You're just the same as us now. Replica shirt wearing newbies who don't have a fucking clue, but like to make the right noises so they can 'integrate' properly.

I'd rather be franchise scum any day of the week. And I am!

Haha johny come lately,at swindon? Fuckin cock

Look at your fan base a bit more closely next time you climb off your sister, mate. More merchandise than the back of a scousers car.

Really?

Bloody club shop. I knew they were going too far with them mugs.

 Plastic, euro 96?? Think not matey, you'll never see as many dongs games i have swindon games, you wont last that long hopefully.

These attempts to score a wind up are getting a bit desperate now.

Yet you're still reacting to it which kind of pisses over your bonfire, doesn't it?

Unfortunately for you, I'd say our future is considerably brighter than yours at this moment in time. Our longevity is probably going to piss off a few of our critics but Hey-Ho! Life's a bitch, innit!

Where do you see your future? You're flying pretty high at the moment, but where do you think it will eventually level off?

Championship at best. Oblivion at worst. Mediocrity as most likely.

why don't we just ban all the Franchise fans on here? it's not even worth the aggro.

you can't argue with them, you can't insult them, it's just dull

I dunno. Some interesting points been bought up. Our biting has been just as bad as the wind up.

In a way I feel like we're better than the mooocamp or whatever it's called for not banning them.

I didn't realise STFC fans had been banned from the MooCamp. As far as I've always been aware, it takes serious site disruption or threats of violence to acheive that. Well done, lads. I'm impressed!

Yeah they went mental and did a mass banning. I'm sure a lot of our fans weren't very nice about you, but on the most part it was no worse than the wind up you've been at on here.

Would you still support Franchise if Winkiewassisname decided they'd make more money playing in Ireland or Cornwall or Scotland or Ghana?

anyone affiliated with STFC was banned from the moocamp, we're just banning wankers...

You want to be admin again?

god no

actually, having read more of the other thread now i retract my comment.

Yeah. I split them hoping that the abusibanter would stay here and the interesting discussion could stay in the other one.

The was a fucking wasted effort wasn't it.

So if the current club moved and became 'Nuneaton Dons' you'd still stick with them, right?

No, but I'd keep an eye on how they were doing. I certainly wouldn't slag off their existence though. That'd make me a hypocrite, wouldn't it?

No - My passion for this lot is hardly deep-rooted. I'm just enjoying affordable football, home and away, on a weekly basis.

You're either a quality wind up with a true talent for irony, or you're a moron who doesn't know what irony is.

And yet you don't understand why we look down on you when our passion is deep-rooted, and you've the nerve to have a go because we empathise with fans who used to feel the same way but who've had their club taken away?

Ninja-edit. Yeah what sipie said.

are there many london based Franchise fans?

A few, and it is only a few. There's also regular support from former WFC fans living in places like Farnborough, Epsom and Winchester. The numbers aren't large, but they are there.

Doubt it, there are a lot of MK based London club fans though...

Passion isn't instant, and anyone in MK claiming to be passionate about the Dons (unless they're old WFC fans or under 12) needs to take a raincheck. It's growing though, whether you find that acceptable or not.

Or you could answer my question.

I don't recall avoiding one, unless ignoring a rant that deserved little by way of reply constitutes a blanking these days.

I disagree.

You've used two question marks but not actually asked a question.

That's because I was drinking?

Oh, I understand now@