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Should be a pretty even game. They're shit, so are we.

See you all in the Royal Hotel!

I think we'll win, the players will be trying to impress Sheena who'll be in the exec. box. To be officially unveiled by Fitton at a post-match press conference, according to my saucy.

Sheena, give us a wave!

Eeeeeuuurrrgh. All night drinking and getting up early for football don't mix. I actually think I'm still pissed. I need some grease.

Is there any chance the game will be OFF ...

Terrible weather (rain) last night, dozens of flood warnings and it is still pissing down.

i'm going along to supermargarine if it's on?
massive game for them today,infact the biggest in their history.

Supermarine is off Arriba, was called off about early this morning

money out

im bored of your sarcastic rubbish posts DV

I dont do them to keep you entertained, so I wont lose any sleep over what you think.

matty fryatt could today get a hat trick of hat tricks, Cox hasnt done this yet, Cox Out,
Just for u DV

Matty Fryatt also never played with the Swindon midfield that, at times can be about as creative as my sarcastic posts.

swindon midfield out!

jpc out!

DV In

Well done on your 3000th post

oh god 3000

any team news in yet?

Unchanged from last week manc

fucking hell, Bodin out

Apart from brez i think.

fuck sake, digby out

Morrison Out


still, why? sold!

Timlin not in. Why?

:)

He has a "T' in his name like Easton.

Bold/stupid move to keep the same eleven

And Petr Brezovan. And Morris(t)on

Good conspiracy theory against the letter T.

but not billy paynTer

GEEK

Panyer close.

And probably should have scored from the sound of that.

sounds like a good start from us then.

Payner close again.

Yup, Paynter sounds lively

are we winning yet?

Well on top at the moment

But, how's the game going.

Fucking hell how many fans are there? Sounds like about 6.

We're drawing but it's all Swindon at the moment.

That gives me a bad feeling - need a breakaway goal whilst under pressure for a last minute winner :(

still 0 - 0 but we are having plenty of posession and lots of balls being put into the box

Apart from an early scare after about three minutes, I don't think Crewe have done much. We need to make this pressure count. Paynter has had two reasonable chances and Coxy's just forced a good save from the keeper.

Another shot from cox saved by the keeper surely one of these chances has got to go in soon

Smih with a good pick-up.

not necessarily lammy!

Strong punch from Smih.

Crozzer-is your "t" button not working?

We'll get to 80 minutes without scoring having dominated and then concede a typically shit late goal. Can see it now.

i think it's linked with earlier posts in this thread  :)

My anorak got caught in the keyboard while I was eating a donut.

Oh yeah-I hadn't read them

I had this bad feeling we would lose today :( Seeing as we haven't won as DV note since I got back from Canada, When I was over there we won both games.

Oh dear..

shit 1-0

there goes the clean sheet, again.

oh my christ

1 Down , Smith parried straight to the forward who puts into the empty net

Bring Money in asap and bring back Mooney

this is just not funny any more  >:(

Was Smithy at fault?I hope not

After it's been nearly all Swindon. Are we ever gonna get any luck?

only we could totally dominate bottom of the league and go in half time 1-0 down

fuck off stanley

Adver has misquoted, they're looking to bring in Mooney as manager

Anoher las minue goal, parried by Smih.  Axi for the goalkeeping coach.

Just as I say we are gonna lose we go down 1-0 :(

money out,it's his fault.give dowie the job.

Nozza won't be pleased.

You slipped in a cheeky "t" there Crozzer!

If we lose to this load of wank I'll be tempted to tear up my season ticket. I am almost reaching breaking point in terms of this football club.

YES MR BYRNE I AM AWARE I AM NOT AT THE GAME SO THEREFORE MY OPINION COUNTS FOR JACKSHIT, LOSE AND I WON'T BE THERE NEXT WEEK EITHER!

Gary you should go back to Canada where your opinion will count even less.

Le's see what Byrne does at half ime, Macca is having a quie game.

I be he makes no changes.

Off for a cuppa, no more poss in the second half, supersiion.

good, fuck off to canada

Fixed.

For fucks sake. Fuckity fuck. Fuckin fuckers.

Hey your a moron too, your commenting on a game your not at How dare you! ;)

im commenting on you being the jinx!!

Billy's going to score a second half hattrick. Probably means we'll draw 3-3 though.

going down, going down, going down! At least in League 2 we won a few games I guess "sigh" .

So, Easton on for Peacock then.

COME ON TOWN!

Afternoon chaps! Christ on a bike, are we ever going to have anything to cheer about?

NMH

no.

gazza are you on a wind up? fucking ott if not

half half, this football team right now is just so damn frustrating... I am normally the most optimistic person going, I take all the shit at work about supporting Swindon but got this is getting difficult to even listen too now :(

Scunny 4-3 Northampton. looks like an entertaining game

Thanks

i dont let football get to me anymore.it's not important really, just a hobbie.

Our attacking play was better under Malpas.

We wont score today.

This would be the perfect game and time to bring on Barry Corr.

You're not at the game. Don't be such a donut Dan.

We better score if we don't I think I'll be sick! COME ON TOWN!

fuckin anoraks

Hit the post.

Nothing seems to be going for us recently :(

Paynter sent off :(

Paynter sent off.

Sigh.

He always gets sent off at Crewe because he gets wound up.

One Hour gone, and not a single shot on Target yet against the team that's bottom of the league.

Oh dear.   I wish I was at the game so I could have a valid opinion of the fact that we aren't playing well.

And now we're down to 10 men

Paynter straight red, this is turning into a nightmare

what a silly billy. fucking twat

fitton will have to back whoever comes in with some money for players.

Jeff Stelling: "Billy Paynter had a brush with the referee"

:(:(:(

We have good players they just don't play well under crap management.

Oh well. Reality is we are shit and we are in a relegation battle. Survival is the aim now for whoever is the new manager.

Paynter is a stupid boy. What exactly happened?

Sounds like he gave as good as he got in all fairness.. I think that's the only kind of sympathy he deserves, you can't react. Our players not pleased that their guy didn't get any punishment for it.

we have some good players but not enough to make progress in this division.

whats the text number for the radio station?

07786203303

I am starting to believe that our players aren't all they are cracked up to be. The league table doesn't lie. Only decent players I think we have are Simon Cox and maybe Easton and Jack Smith other than that I would quite happily get rid of the lot (of the main first team not players like callum, morrison etc)

Agreed there. We need a few players in a few positions. At the end of the day though we should be doing much better than 19th going on relegation zone. One can only hope this new manager (whoever it may be) does a bloody good job.

I can hear the parrot bloke noise now and then.

So was Billy sent of for reacting?

Sturrock on? Forgot all about him

I was trying to!

seems that it was for that batch

I'd keep McNamee.

I don't think he is great... like JP McGovern I think he is very hot or cold no inbetween, Even Paynter to an extent.

I just woke up, what did I miss, are we winning yet, if so why not

we should be beat teams like Crewe, Hereford and Cheltenham.

fuck it, just relegate is now.

I was just thinking back to the interview Bryne gave just before the game. He was talking about us being difficult to beat (or something like that). OK then Dave........

Unfortunately the pundits are normally right and we were tipped for relegation , it all looking a bit more like that could become a reality. You can not survive in league 1 with league 2 players like Pook, Sturrock, Mcgovern. We need to cling onto league 1 survival this year and then get rid of all the deadwood and there is plenty of that

we survived in L1 with them last year, thats what makes it even worse!

Cheltenham are winning. If they hold on and Crewe hold on they'll be 2 points behind us. Eeeeekkk.

our defence are rubbish.the fact that jack smith has been one of the better ones this season says it all

And

And he couldn't get a game under Sturrock.

fuck me scunthorpe 4- northampton 4

Thank fuck that Yeovil and Brighton are shit too.

Caveat being Yeovil are currently losing....

thats relegation confirmed then.

4 mins

Didn't he also say recently that "someone soon is going to get a hiding"

He did, think he meant us,.

He's such a donut.

For Fuck Sake :( Wonder what Budgie has to say for this team now...

So we can't score against the team with the worst defensive record in the league........

All over, bad times..

ours cant be much better

And we concede to the poorest attack

it's all over............

Bring a new manager in asap ffs

Well that was fun......

I feel ill

Oh dear. Not looking good really is it?

This is fucking dire.

We are officialy shit, we are now right in the relegation fight. Ed hadwin describes it as Dismal

Cox was scoring for fun under Malaps, now the goals have stopped.....

It's OK it won't be his or the teams fault it will be ours for sitting here saying we should beat shit teams like Crewe, we have unrealistic expectations.

We all said that last week

We need a new manager in ASAP. We're having a lot of the ball, in some of the other recent games we've had the better of the chances yet we aren't winning and it's costing us big time.

i still think we will be ok and not go down.that isn't good enough for a club that should be making progress.money sorted but the product on the pitch is poor-average at best

I feel better now ;)

...and we'll say it again next week

I see the adver forum are out in full force "Money will get bums in seats NOT" "Money has done nothing" etc...

Bloody fools

Yeovil next week isn't? Fucking hell we really have to win that.

 :badmood:

I wish we'd gone bust, then this would all be over.

I wish you'd go bust so you would have to sell your PC to me for £2.50. Boo DV out.

On the brightside at least when our cool new manager comes in we're bound to win 10 games on the trot and get excited about being midtable again. YAY Midtable!!

I have a laptop. Yours for £250.

Piss off that's more than you earn in a year. £25 is my final offer.

Glad to have helped

Its painful listening to Byrne-its not so much lack of effort,more a lack of quality

Even if I stayed unemployed for the whole year and didnt make any income I'd still get more than £250 interest on my various saving accounts!

Plus, on a more serious note than most of my posts have been recently. Who was expecting us to win? anyone? we do really shit against the bottom teams and have done years, so I wasnt that surprised.

Even when we were the top team in League Two we still lost away at places like Mansfield and Maccelsfield. Last season we couldnt even beat Port Vale at their place.

I did say we would lose

Again though there are ways to lose

We miss a central midfielder who can shoot and pass the ball forward. Pook and Peacock are not the correct pairing, too defensive.

Easton got a few goals last season, but he doesn't play much.  

its easy.just dont score as much as the opposition.we are good at that....

easton scored his goals whilst playing on the right, Ville Valo is right about the goalscoring midfielder, Grant Smith was the last one we had

Someone like gary speed

When it comes down to it, we simply aren't good enough.

Macca is tricky yes but nothing ever comes of it. His crossing is rubbish and he fucks about with the ball so much that by the time he's ready to cross there are 2 defenders on him.

Nalis is too slow and over the hill.

P Smith has cost us on more than one occasion.

The list goes on. Who would you honestly say is worth keeping?

Cox and Brezovan.

DRS being a suck up.

we miss the creative wing play of Roberts and Zaaboub.

Also, if our midfield arent creating chances for the love of god, give Macklin ago. Everyone seems to talk up. Hell, the Crystal Palace youngsters dicked us 5-1 and their manager talked most about how good Macklin was!

Would it hurt, pace, creativity, forward running and a bit of arrogance?

Haha

I agree with DV, i'd start Macklin against Yeovil. JPM's had too many chances now.

So has McNamee but we've only got two fucking wingers!

Lloyd will be involved in the 1st team within the next few games if Dave is still in charge

None of our players have been that good this season, except for the front two, who seem to have been a bit off the boil under Byrne.

Hopefully a new manager can get more out of them, as that's where the problem lies. We're not going to get world beaters unless we spend money and I don't think we will.

Was Smith at fault for the goal?They made it sound as if he was, on the commentary

Marshall?

If he's still in charge next week i might cry.

too late then, do it next game. It wont hurt.

Also - I must apologise when I said we only have two wingers. I forgot Mark 'Kaid Mohamd Fola Onibuje Lloyd Opara Ben Martin Darren Dykes' Marshall

and Swindon turned down a request from a Premier League to have Lloyd on trial for a week

Looks like I picked a good Saturday to work. Foooook's saaayke.

Looks like Sturrock will start next week then.....Mmmmm

That doesnt suprise me that a Premiership club has been sniffing, not Everton was it? Didnt they just sign a 14 year old off of us for about 70 grand?

Still he can talk to any club he wants in a few weeks anyway. He is not on a long term deal and isnt playing first team football here and Premiership clubs want him....no brainer really

I dont think thats a bad thing!

no wasnt everton

i dont usually listen to the comments on the radio post match.i am today and i'm laughing like fuck at the stuff that's said.mostly because of the callers and texters stupidity.

Sorry Ralph but that is bullshit, Macca's crossing is spot on, the problem is we never have anyone in the right area when he does delivery a ball.  Also our midfield don't offer any support in that area either.  Macca is not the problem.

west ham then?

either way, I dont want to sound like a youth team bummer, but he just has the pace and directness our team seems to lack at the moment. Possibly a bit of arrogance we could do with to.

These texters make me thoroughly depressed about the future of Swindon Town.

u seen the west ham scout sat near me vs palace then, but wasnt west ham

I of course saw the West Ham scout (and an Oxford one)

I also think I saw you as well, but cant be certain. Although I reckon you saw me there!

True. Added to the fact he hardly ever gets the ball.

i seen u, i was sat with pooky and callum

Should have said hello and blown your cover!

Interesting. Maybe,maybe not,but a disastrous loan spell at Bournemouth doesn't bode well

He'll work the channels well, drag the defenders about, make them think, create space possibly act as a link between the midfield and attack and he'll at least give you 100%

Although if we just hoof it forward to him then we might as well play <insert any name off the TEF> upfront for the good it will do.

Do our players hear an imaginary whistle on 45 and 90 minutes

like Ronaldo?

byrne wont like what he reads on the adver comments tonight.to say we have morons,idiots,muppets etc as fans is an understatement.
some people dont deserve a fucking club!

Didnt go....didnt listen to commentry.....only know the result......which was shit.

I will not have a go at anyone (for fear of upsetting byrne) but a result like that is shit and we are in the shit..........

New manager and fucking quick please.

........i feel shit..........

I normally feel absolute crap after we've lost, whether I've gone or not but at the moment its just a big shrug of the shoulders while I grab another beer. I'm not looking forward to Yeovil. In fact, I'm not sure I've looked forward to any game this season.
I am rapidly losing interest - a bit like the players really.
Personally, I'd throw a few of the youngster in - they can't do any worse than our current lot but at least they'd gain experience and we'd see what they're made of.

What a sorry state of affairs. Big games for Dosh or whoever coming up.

I'll highlight this mongloid as a prime example.


That comment about Amankwaah is absolutely crossing the line. Well out of order IMO. If I were Dave Bryne (and thank fuck I'm not), I'd keep well away from the internet this week else he's going to explode.

Getting rid of our whole team at the end of the season wont help at all.

Any manager worth is wages will get the best out of players. Sturrock proved to us we have a decent squad.

I still dont believe our sqaud is poor, or league two standard because we've lost about 4 players from last season. Zaaboub who everyone wanted rid of anyway, Roberts, Nicholas and Comminges who was probably the only first team regular.

Players like Brez, Ifil, Easton etc dont become bad players over night. It is however clear Malpas couldnt get the best out of these players for ever reason.

Maybe im being a happy clapper (!!!) but we've got the players, sure we could do with one or two additions (why we havent bought in ANYONE on loan is your guess) but I dont think Money (or whoever....) needs to come in and ship out the whole squad and bring in a whole new one like say Dennis Wise needed to.

What a moron.

 :cunt:

i know thats well out of order, no one should say the word tosh, the crash bit was a bit naughty aswell

What do you think I was talking about ;)

shit as usual :)

You're not not wrong JCP. You're not wrong.

fucking hell i come out with some shit, but that amankwaah comment is well out of order

Not sure what people made of today's performance as I can't be bothered to read back through the thread, but here's my view...

We looked threatening at times, and had spells where we knocked it around well. Smith did nothing wrong all game except one punch that he should have caught, Kennedy had a decent game and was knackered by the end, and the rest of the defence were alright on the whole against a shite Crewe side.
The midfield were decent enough going forward but didn't do enough to protect the defence today in my opinion, and Crewe's goal came from a passing move that should have been stopped long before a chance on goal was allowed.
Paynter was terrible. Normally I rate him, but today he did nothing of much value and then got himself sent off to top it all off. Cox ran around a lot but never really got the ball in decent positions.
On the whole, we played alright but a couple of defensive errors were very worrying and in the end one of them cost us.

Can't wait for a new manager to come in. Byrne was given a tough job, and hasn't done very well. Hopefully the new man will turn it around and soon.

I'm with DV, although I do think that he is stating the obvious.

I'll get my anorak.

Sometimes the obvious is the thing people miss most...

My summary is as follows:

Crewe are cack.

We are cacker.

Just got back and to say we were embarrassing is an understatement, second half especially Kennedy and Cox apart there seemed to be a complete lack of passion. Paynter deserved his red card it was a stupid thing to do but to be fair even with him on the pitch I don't think we'd of scored. People were singing (our own fans) things like 'we'll be coming back next year' during the game so many almost seem to be consigning us to relegation already and unfortunately based on today you can't really argue with them.
Smith again needs to take a large slice of the blame for the goal, he should of either try to hold the shot or parry it out of the danger area but instead he just palmed it straight to their players feet. The defenders should take some of the blame also for not anticipating the rebound but I don't see what more it has to take for him to be dropped or taken out of the firing line. He's even starting to punch chest height balls rather than catching them which is a concern, I don't see what good it is doing to him or the team by continuing to start him. Either start Brez or make sure we have a new keeper lined up for January should be one of the new mans priorities.

And JPC I'm sorry 'Dave' might give Macklin a chance if he is still in charge but I couldn't care less, things have sank back to as they were and things are as bad now if not worst than when Malpas was here and we need a new manager ASAP and the rest of the coaching staff are evidently not up to the job either so hopefully new faces are brought in. No passion, no tactics and still giving away stupid goals....

On a lighter not there was a chant of Sheena Eastons red and white army though.

i didnt post about lloyd being involved soon to make u care more glos u tit, its fact!
Dave wont be in charge for the next game, but if hes still has a role then he will be pushing the new manager to involve lloyd

It was shit.

Crewe are the worst supported team ever. FACT!

can someone tell us who the winner of the grant smith arguement was please

haha glos still hates me for proving he was wrong :)

Fair enough personally I hope him and the current first team coaches have no further involvement with the first team as even with Malpas gone its the same old shit every week which shows there was more of a problem than just Malpas. Crewe hadn't won a league game since September just to put things into perspective.

I tried starting it twice, didn't  really take off.

I did like the empty seat chant, probably the highlight of the game

It's called irony.

Dave has done good for this club, not as 1st team boss hes clearly not ready for that, hes brought in the 3 Plymouth boys, Tozer sold for a £1m, Sean is wanted by a host of prem clubs and Joycey has come in and scored for the 1st team, hes brought through Callum, Lloyd will be next, and got us further in the youth cup we have ever been since Don Rogers played in it!!

Yeah, there is no chance Crewe will stay up...

And there will be plenty of empty seats v Yeovil next Saturday....bring a friend for a fiver for season tickets i believe.

I've got no problem with him going back to the youths or as a scout I just think we need a complete overhaul of the whole 1st team coaching set-up. It's gone stale and lacking ideas when Iffy was in charge and had the likes of Reeves acting as coaches.

David Byrne's 2nd stint as Caretaker boss will be remembered as a collection of missed opportunities.

2-2 Leicester City, spirited comeback we should have built on the enthusiasm afterwards.
2-2 Bristol Rovers, last gasp equaliser by Gas - draw considered a fair result.
2-2 Peterborough, last gasp "wonder" goal from 'boro.
1-2 Walsall, I'm told we were the worst of a bad bunch.
1-1 Carlisle, late equaliser again, at home to a poor travelling team
0-1 Crewe, lose to the worst team in the division.

Sadly, 4 points from 18 is awful, especially when we lost most of those points late on.

It will probably sound ridiculous but I take heart from the fact that we're not getting tonked every week - get the right guy in and I'm sure he'll be able to work with them (obviously bringing a couple and getting rid of a few aswell).

Byrne is an adequate coach, he's not a leader though. If it's Money then I have no doubts that the likes of Macklin will appear sooner or later with or without Byrne.

Billy got sent off twice at Crewe against the same player this year. fool.

January 08
Crewe will argue the former Port Vale man's elbow definitely connected with Michael O'Connor on 75 minutes but to the neutral it looked as though referee Mr Evans had already marked his card after an earlier late challenge.

Today
66 mins: RED CARD (Paynter). The Town striker is given his marching orders after retaliating to a challenge from Crewe skipper O'Connor.

but without lloyd getting a taste of 1st team football hes off

At a guess I would say that had we been a higher up the table he would have played by now. It got to the point where Callum Kennedy had to be given a chance.

I wonder what odds arriba and I can get on Barry Corr to be fit for the next game?

Straight red, so what 3 games suspension for Paynter?

Super Sturrock to the rescue? nope bet Byrne uses this chance to go 4-5-1 with Cox upfront on his own

under Malpas Lloyd never even played a ressie game tho

Ime personally very disapointed he braught Sturrock on and not young Joyce...nothing against Blaire but hes had his chances in the past and not delivered...give the youngster a chance IMO.

...yep, but Money will be different (I hope, if he comes in) as he works in Youth football at this moment.

Joyce has played what 2 professional games

He could be the next Andy Caton....

Sturrock has when called upon done a good job for us, right now between Joyce and Sturrock it isnt a difficult choice.

However I think Byrne will go 4-5-1 next game and put in an extra midfielder to keep things tight.

hopefully cos we have some good kids coming through, Kurt Hammonds, Nathan Thompson, Will Evans & Lloyd the best by a mile

To be honest how bad we are doing putting Sturrock in the team isn't going to be any worse is it? SUPER SUPER BLAIR! ... Maybe not but hey ho!

Can you point out to me when Sturrock has done a good job?....he puts in 100% but isnt good enough....Andy Caton was permantly injured so comparing him to Joyce isnt really fair.
To be fair to our squad they do put the effort in most games...but the LGE dosnt lie at Xmas...most arnt good enough.

They are all wankers ................end of
 :-[

Tbh if Ben Joyce was that good he would be in the team wouldnt he, at least Blair has the experience.

On another note, jesus the adver site is painful reading tonight 8), Daves going to have fun in the morning!

To be honest Dave should take all the bolocks post it in the dressing room to piss off the players and spur them on!

Ok, just off the top of my head Carlisle at home last season. 2-2 draw, Sturrock scored a good goal and was quality that day. He's always done a decent job just never got any credit because he was bought in by his daddy.

Caton scored on league debut and we over hyped him to the moon, now he plays in a league probably not much higher than I've bloody played in!!

Joyce scored on his league debut but how much do you really know about him. Im not claiming to be an expert on him at all, far from it...but have you seen Joyce play more than twice leefer? Cant help but think because he scored against Port Vale all of a sudden everyone thinks he's some sort of ace young striker who is ready for league football.

Im not claiming Sturrock is amazing or first choice, but if Bynre plays him against Yeovil he'll do a job for us.

Even I've given up on the adver now, there seems to be more people criticizing Fitton on there than ever dared to be critical of Diamond Mike and co. Apparently "we'll never have a good manager whilst Fitton is in charge".   ::)

we havent had a good manager since fittons been here, hopefully the next appointment will change that

So why did Byrne start Joyce v Rovers and Sturrock is not even on the bench?
Tho whole reasoning of my point is how is Joyce ever going to show how good or bad he is,todays match was the ideal one for him to have a run out..you cant judge a player on two games...he was top notch pre season.

Fittons only been here a year...

Bill Power on the other hand knew how to appoint a manager and get the positivity flowing, what ever happened to him and his loan/shares/etc

Seen as Joyce got taken off after 30 minutes I think its fair to say Byrne dropped a bollock with that one.

No you cant judge a player on two games, so you cant possible say he'd be a better option than Blair.

Er, Sturrock was on the bench...

that wasnt due to Joyce being so shit it was that everyone was shit cos the formation was so wrong

There was no formation for the first half hour, that was the problem.  I thought Byrne made a bit of a balls up there and I hope Joyce realised he had to be the one to pay for Dave's naivity in that game, instead of letting it get to him that he was taken off in the first half.

joyce was told it was nothing to do with his performance it was all tactical

Ime bound to get shouted down for this..so be it but if Money is appointed tomorow i for one wont be happy...Fitton said he wanted to appoint a manager who will react to the fans(his reason for sacking Malpass)
He did a great job taking Walsall up but even there fans are split on how good he is.
If hes better than MM then we will stay up,ime not knocking him but i really wanted Fitton to bring someone special in...maybe its not Money and weve been hoodwinked and only time will tell how good he is...i wish him the best.

Its my guess that Peacock will play up front with Cox next week,with Easton,Timlin and Pook in midfield McNamee on the left and the same back four.Brez could well be recalled

I went today and to be honest I'm tired of watching Swindon this season.

4 wins from 19 league games tells its own story.

I knew we'd lose today - every team on a bad run seems to beat us. To be honest, I don't subscribe to his " we've got a decent squad, if only we had the right manager" stuff. The table doesn't lie. We can't win from 3-0 up and we can't win ugly. The brutal truth is that half - yes half - of our regular first teamers are not good enough for this division.

To watch us trying to fashion any clear cut chances against the worst team in the league was, frankly, pitiful. Our midfield to a man are embarrasing beyond words, all huff and puff and not an ounce of guile or imagination between them.

And you dread the ball falling to Ifil or Aljofree as neither can do anything other than hoof the ball 60 yards aimlessly upfield - that's when not missing the pitch altogether - 5000 square yards of turf for God's sake. I've been slagged off on here before for criticising Paynter but he's got the touch of a lame rhinocerous. And the finishing ability.

Today was deeply depressing. And I repeat - the table doesn't lie.  

I went today and to be honest I'm tired of watching Swindon this season.

4 wins from 19 league games tells its own story.

I knew we'd lose today - every team on a bad run seems to beat us. To be honest, I don't subscribe to his " we've got a decent squad, if only we had the right manager" stuff. The table doesn't lie. We can't win from 3-0 up and we can't win ugly. The brutal truth is that half - yes half - of our regular first teamers are not good enough for this division.

To watch us trying to fashion any clear cut chances against the worst team in the league was, frankly, pitiful. Our midfield to a man are embarrasing beyond words, all huff and puff and not an ounce of guile or imagination between them.

You dread the ball falling to Ifil or aljofree as neither can do anything other than hoof the ball 60 yards aimlessly upfield - that's when not missing the pitch altogether - 5000 square yards of turf for God's sake. I've been slagged off on here before for criticising Paynter but he's got the touch of a lame rhinocerous. And the finishing ability.

Today was deeply depressing. And I repeat - the table doesn't lie.  

Timlin looked our second best player this season (after Cox) all the time he played at left back, he has not been an inspiration in midfield in fact he has been pretty poor, as good as the young lad has played at left back I would rest him for the game against Yeovil, I would imagine it will be a bit of bruser of a match and this is not the time for youngsters starting, bring them on later if the game is won.
Brez must come back, not because he is that much better than Smith at the mo, just he can't be any worse (well I hope not).
I think you are probably right about Peacock going up front, Nailis Pook JPM and McNamee in midfield.

Peacock went off injured good chance he will be out next week

Didnt go today, but I went last year and its a depressing ground to go to at the best of times.

Just hope we dont go down, because I think the fans will be very bitter about it. Someone needs to come in and get to grips with this shambles. Shake off the complacency that has dogged us since february.

Got to say that the youth development needs to be put on hold for 6 months now. We need some old heads in january on short contracts.

hi mate, glad your on, ive missed u x

Hi j

My two penneth:

the woman that wanted me to sit downwas a cunt, and her bloke was worse for trying to abuse me for it
Anyone blaming Smith for their goal is a clown
We never looked like scoring
Cox was awful but seems to avoid all criticism
Kennedy did well again
Nelly the Elephant packed her trunk
Billy was stupid

Two penneth Lucien...that was at least a bob.

i dont reckon joyce will be a pro for long.he's nothing special at all.and if maclin goes elsewhere cause he doesn't get a game here then fuck him.always looked a loose cannon when i've seen him anyway.is he good enough,who knows? but he has moments of utter stupidity for fucking sure.if he thinks he's billy big bollocks then he is only going to go one way anyway.

i fully expect money to get absolute pelters from some fans after an initial short period,as it will take alot of work and time to turn us around to the team we want and expect.many fans not having enough patience is an absolute certainty.he may fail anyway mind.
fitton needs to spend money on quality players or we aint going anywhere but mid table at best for the forseable future

i thought u knew better than that about macklin arriba

Do you think we may get Tozer on loan with if Money is the new manager?

Tozer has been found out since big sam left, lost his way and struggling big time

i've seen his strops and hot headed behaviour.flashes of good stuff and talent too,but that was against youth teams.i'm not saying he isn't good as he is potentially a very good player.

if u seen alot last season u will have that opinion, cos hes so quick he gets kicked all over the place, u do it enough and u will get a reaction from someone, but to be fair this season hes been much better. Last season he got racially abused a few times which the FA dealt with and with the 'reputation' he has with being a hot head he was superb how he dealt with it

If Money takes over, I'd rather he brought in the likes Tamás Kádár, Kazenga LuaLua or even take another look at one Nile Ranger - when considering loanees.

That's saying something because Allardyce left Newcastle days after signing Tozer!

He's on the fringes because of the lack of depth at St. James' Park.

Suprised LuaLua hasnt gone on to good things already...he was brill against our youths a few seasons back.

he played in a youth game and scored on his debut and played a ressie game i think and done well, since then hes been struggling by all accounts

whatever the reasons were why he reacted and lost the plot is irrelivant.its more than once that he has done so.
that wont stop so he will have to change his reactions to stick from opposition(if he has already then fair play)
is he saying he will leave unless he gets in the first team?

im not saying he demanding this or that, at present time this season hes played 1 reserve game after scoring 23 goals from midfield, now if a prem club comes calling and at present time hes been showed hes not really valued by the club, why would he stay?

if he is that good why isn't he even getting in the reserves?

cos this clubs a joke, hes clearly good enough, hes the biggest prospect we have out of all the young players, sean included

Fuck off. He's too lightweight for the pros biatch :D

He is good ...ive seen him,the club may be protecting him in anticapation of a big pay which they wont get if he does play and is pants....but then again Joyce scored for fun in the reserves and youths!...(dont go there)

i think his temperament is holding him back jcp.i know he is talented,but if he isn't mentally ready then it's pointless playing him.

God bless the bang bus!!

Dave thinks hes ready so we will see soon, Dave rates him higher than Marshall which i know isnt much praise

Agree...can you remember that young player we had everyone was watching..cant remember his name a few years back....they played him v Ipswich live on TV and he got torn apart...he never made it,that one match destroyed him,so its very hard for a manager to chuck a young player in....i wonder ware that player is now.

marshall wont be here long. poor signing

Bryan Smith?

dave was amazed when malpas signed yinka and marshall when we had callum and lloyd ready to step up

dave wont be picking the team much longer

...and what bugs me the most is that we lost to a team with Daniel O'Donnell in defence. No excuses for that.

[url width=263 height=219]http://www.daniel-site.com/images/daniel-odonnell.jpg[/url]

dave still has a valid point though

agree.

http://www.crewealex.net/page/MatchReport/0,,10414~44377,00.html


A view from Crewe.

8 corners to there 1....and our shooting needs to improve,1 shot on target is poor to to say the least.

Fuck me they had half a team missing as well!

JPC you really need to get a life because all you do is talk a whole stack of shit.

How the hell do you know what any of the players are thinking or planning to do with their careers, firstly its got nothing to do with you, and secondly who do you think are, some secret football agent???

No didnt think so.................you come on here all the time stirring up shit when really you dont know what the hell your talking about, your just a fantasist who has got his tongue so far up the youth teams arses that it looks like its got stuck.

Players get a chance to step up a level when they are ready, you are no Mr Big so your not in a position to influence when or if that happens, please just do us all a favour and keep your trap shut, you really are becoming quite boring.

:) hi mate :)

Rubbish reply.

jake hyde is joining wycombe next week, training with then till january 1st when he will sign for them, just to prove i dont talk shite :)

Smooth move

Does Jake Hyde still have an inexcusable haircut?

Even I know that and I'm about as attatched to the Grapevine as Mars is.

Jake Hydes move is no secret, and does anybody actually care????

u seem to care enough to write an essay about me

I care about the missing apostrophe.  ;)

I didn't know that Jake Hyde was off to Wycombe... But I don't care. Even JCP has suggested that he's not close to 1st team standard.

Only cus im fed up of all the crap you keep writing, case of small man syndrome is it?

you're right swindon-red, u found me out, ive guessed everything ive ever posted

Hmmmm perhaps, or abusing a position of trust is probably more like it, I wonder what you hope to gain from it all then...................

yeah ok then, im bored im not even gonna react

Ha ha ha, I wonder why that is, starting to sweat a bit are you, worried that your identity is about to be blown wide open??

yeah terrified

 :deadhorse:

Now, now children.

There's only one way to settle this.......FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

hahaha.jcp is alright,even if he is a lying cunt

I think JPC is too coward for that, big girls blouse that he is

 :zzz:

Well all I can say is that if JPCs mate is really the landlord of some of the youth team which is what he has posted on here before, then his mate is an arse and the club should sack him.  Dont think its right that somebody who has been trusted to look after 16/17 yr olds should be allowed to go around talking about their business, they are kids who are trying to learn their trade and they shouldnt have to put up with idiots like that chatting shit.

A slightly unwarranted attack there. Maybe you should have a word with our team, Swindon_red, we could do with a little attacking nous.

where has that come from?? i was at college with Chrissy and Riggs etc and my parents have business dealings with footballers but nothing to do with football

Popcorn, get your popcorn.

Is Jake Hyde related to the ex Wycombe keeper Paul Hyde?

And more importantly, is his middle name Ellen?

If you're still thinking about that, it's time to go to bed.

swindon red certainly has it in for jcp.only a few posts to his name but has had a pop at our resident youth team informer.

I reckon he's one of the youth team that JPC doesn't talk about so he feels left out. Sam Morris maybe, JPC hardly mentions him.

perhaps swindon red is a certain dave byrne  :eek: 8)

Doughnut.

obviously it isnt, im hoping for a bigger fallout between jpc and this fella though..

Otter's noses, badger nipples, lark's tongues ....

I agree with whoever it was that mentioned Bill Power earlier in this thread. That bloke certainly kick started the club by bringing in Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet. He got everyone united behind the club, made us all feel 10 fucking feet tall (apart from Wise) for once and just got on with signing players who could do a job for us. Marvelous times that unfortunately ended with Diamandis retaking control while Power was flat on his back in hospital.

I don't have any contacts in the club (apart from my hairdressing ones) but surely Andrew Fitton knows in his heart that something is badly fucked up on the management side at the moment. A mass cull of the backroom staff  did the trick when Wise and Poyett arrived. Though I disagreed with his treatment of fans, I'd ditto that comment for Paul Sturrock as well. No disrespect to Byrne, but whatever excuses are trotted out, we're shit at the moment.

Player personalities aside ( I don't need another shoeing for slating Paynter) our squad seems to have maybe 6 or 7 players capable of doing the business under the right management. We also have maybe another 5 or 6 youngsters capable of challenging for a place at some point, or at least showing enough potential to do so. The remainders are therefore fucking driftwood and liggers who we're best getting shot of as quickly and as cheaply as possible.

History shows that Power brought in the right people to sort the club out. It also shows that even a cunt like Diamandis knew enough to appoint Sturrock to do the same job.

Fitton is no mug. I hope he'll have lined someone up who'll sort the fucking place out once and for all. If he appoints someone who is going to accept the status quo like Malpas did though, we could all be in for a very  bumpy ride this winter.

I don't want any of that Roman rubbish. Why don't you sell proper food?

When I see JPC throw down a man challenge to swindon red I want proper food.

We only signed one first team player in the summer. Its hardly suprising the squad has gone stale.

All our decent signings were by Paul Sturrock, or they were on Sturrocks radar (Cox, Timlin, McNamee).

Basicially we cant afford another lightweight.

Tats an extremely good post, agree totally with all those comments.  I am very worried about our club

I can assure you that im definitely not Dave nor am I Sam Morris (who is a 1st yr pro not youth team player) or any other youth team player come to that.  I may have only recently started posting but I have been an avid reader of the posts on this site for quite some time which is why I dont like the way that JPC stirs things up about kids who are trying to learn and develop.  A while back one of his posts said that he gets info from his best mate who is the landlord of some of the YT.  Which if true, is totally bang out of order cus the club pay bloody good money to have the kids looked after and I dont think they would appreciate an employee talking about them to anyone who wants to listen.  It could of course just have been a lie because now he seems to be using his parents business dealings as the source for all of his knowledge, its hard to know what to actually believe.

  Think the consequences of the mismanagement of the 00's is that we're now a yo-yo club (two chocy biscuits there Nev)...yo-yo between L1 and L2.  The reason why the likes of BP and DM could attract decent management teams is that we spent money which didn't exist. 

 AF is not going to do this...he's pushed the boat out to sack MM and replace him, but isn't going to stretch to a whole new backroom staff.

 Think Gazza mentioned that being in L2 isn't so bad, because we can win a few games there....let's face it DD's only record of success is at that level.

I believe JCP use to be a youth team player who did not make it because of injury problems.
The crap he talks has a tendency to be truthful most of the time so he does have contacts within the club at youth team level.
He says he is mates with a lot of the youth team players, I cannot see any reason not to believe this.

Not a very good yo-yo seen as we've spent a whole one season of the 00s in L2.

As for JPC, sure he can be a twat sometimes (like not liking my amazing brilliant witty sarcastic posts) and some of his information at times can be quiet scary and stalker like but he is usually right with what he says.

I think Reg was saying that we are now a yo-yo club after the last 7 years of mis-management.

but we arent because we have barely yo-yoed

we could become a yo-yo club, we could go down again this season (we wont) then back up etc etc

apart from one season we've been steady for a good number of years which isnt very yo-yo like.

Over the last three years we've done a fairly good impression - 1 down, 1 up, 1 level.

 Exactly...last season we flirted with the drop, before steadying, this season as Spencer points out we've gone stale, partly through losing a few players and teh Board not being prepared to pay agents etc, to get proper replacements.

 BTW I'm not criticising the Board here, just trying to get folk to have a realistic view of where we are right now...in many ways we've been remarkably lucky, that we avoided a Looton, Bormuff, Rotherham situation.  No doubt our financial mismangement, was on a similar scale...and we could very easily be Conference bound by now.

 AF is right about stability being the key...in many ways though it was a pity that he folded to the donuts and sacked MM.

Yo Yo's go up and down everyone knows they don't stay level unless you are preparing the walk the dog trick. You lot are thick

In the last 18 years we have definitely been a yo yo club, we are becoming more of humpty dumpty club now though.

malpas had to go.his time here was time wasted

2000-2001. Didn't go up, or down.
2001-2002. Didn't go up, or down.
2002-2003. Didn't go up, or down.
2003-2004. Didn't go up, or down.
2004-2005. Didn't go up, or down.
2005-2006. Went down.
2006-2007. Came up.
2007-2008. Didn't go up, or down.

Hardly yo-yo.

We've spent all but one season in this division! We've been through a lot of shit in the past few years, on and off the pitch, but we've not been yo-yoing all over the place.

 This is just falling into the short termist trap that pervades the present game...the same will happen with DD.

 Have we gained anything from sacking MM...answer no. As a club we're still way short of the necessary infrastructure to compete at the level above...so in the meantime, let's accept our status, and hope progress continues off teh pitch.

2008-09 ???? - yo yo - ha ha

also, forgetting the cups because no one really cares about them.

Malpas last 3 league games were back to back wins and a draw against top of the league. Our best run off form this season.

It's a shame Fitton is such an honest gentleman, a more ruthless chairman would have had a man in place weeks before Malpas got the push.

I can't say I'd eat a testicle (As they've already been reserved) but I'm willing to put any amount of money up against us going down this season.

We haven't had a manager for the last six games, of course we're struggling! Get the new man in and let's see where we finish. It won't be in the bottom four.

Hope you are right, I'm not so confident though.
Brighton, Yeovil and Leyton Orient the next few matches will probably show where we are going this year.

About time we had a bit of luck as well, we do not seem to be luckiest outfit in the league.

yesterday was dreadful...i'm glad i was drunk, it must have been horrible sober...chicken balti was alright though

The football was dire. Despite being sober, I still had a laugh though....

The whole match was dire, however the following made it wasier to take:

Toilet stop on the hard shoulder watching the gentlemen in question get beeped by passing traffic
Pool in the pub the old boys were a good laugh
Nelly the elephant
Sheena Eastons Red and White Army
The steward telling the annoying shouty woman behind us that "they don't enforce seating at Crewe and if she wanted to sit to sit somewhere else"
Oh and some meathead calling Lucien Sanchez an ignorant tosser

What made it easier to take was the fact I was sat in the warmth and comfort of my own home.

I'm half tempted to bin the next game off and I'm really not looking forward to Leyton Orient either (although I will definitely go to that). Just not really feeling the football at the moment. Shame Ben never has any money, I'd stay in the pub with him for old times sake.

I just watched the small amount of highlights on The Championship.
What was Aljofree doing when Crewe scored, it seemed to me he was arguing with someone (don't know who).
The goal did not look Smiths fault.
Paynter sending off you, they didn't show the headbutt, but the knock he took from the Crewe player looked like handbags, very unprofessional Mr. Paynter.

i'm also glad i was drunk yesterday, although i hated having a hangover by ten o clock.

i've just seen the sending off again on the championship...it looks as if billy was fouled (hazy recollection of this happening) and the ref was right there. shame he's a cock and reacted though

also it's a shame we're shit

Sounds like they need someone to come in and take control. Actually it sounds as though they're waiting for it.

I saw the same highlights, and i thought that Smith should have done better to be honest. I reckon Brez would have held it, it was straight at him and not too powerful.

Saying that, i think i'm slightly biased at the moment, as I have seen so many Phil Smith fuck ups this year that I'm possibly turning into one of those idiots now waiting for him to make a mistake.

It looked like Smith could have done better but again like Carlisle he's made a save and its their bloke who has re-acted first.

It looked to me like Aljofree was shouting at the ref because he thought he should have had a foul just outside the box but he wasnt exactly busting a gut to get back in and defend.

Unbelieveable......... :suicide:

From the highlights, it looked like Jerel had a go at smith with the action 'Why did you not push it away?'

Smith is credited with seven saves yesterday. Which means our defence allowed Crewe seven chances.

But yeah, the reason we lost was all Smiths fault.......

i take your points reg and agree to an extent.i said yesterday that i think money will get stick after an initial short period.i hope i am wrong and that he gets every bit of quality out of our poor-average squad and gets the fans onside,but i think he will have it all to do.
if money cannot get quick progress then i think fitton will have to find some money and add to the squad with quality players that we dont possess currently.we have demanding fans who crave success.

 malpas proved he wasn't up to it.the signings he made alone were enough reason to get shot of him.i think fitton was more than patient with him

They said they wanted to be Championship in 3 years. The first year will be up in february, the next 6 months after that will hinge on whether Fitton has appointed another no hoper.

They havn't taken relegation seriously all season despite the fact that if Malpas had been appointed over a summer then he would have relegated us.

Progress off the pitch will be difficult to come by. Cant see too many new season ticket holders snapping up their season ticket renewals. If it wasnt for Malpas we would have smashed that 6,000. As it is, the club has lost all momentum. 

He will end up spending the money for a manager with 3 backroom staff in the end. Whether we are still in L1 or L2 by then I dont know.

Our status could very well be league 2 soon, I wouldn't accept that. I'm confident the right man will keep us up though. There's no light at the end of the tunnel until he does come on though, that's what's so frustrating.

Their goal looked like smiths fault tbf. Poor defending in the lead up, but you'd expect a keeper to do better than push it right out into the strikers path

I think I made the point to bennett yesterday, might've been someone else, but I just don't think we do enough as a team to help each other out. I think Smith could've done better but I can't help but think that if Aljofree had gotten on with the game rather than complaining to the referee he might've been in a position to clear that loose ball.

Shame really as I thought we started really well, first half hour we looked good and in a position to take three points. Inability to take our chances has cost us yet again IMO, just like Walsall. It's now got to the point that I'm really not relishing the visit of Yeovil next saturday.

I suspect that AF has now come to realise the difficulty of the task taken on...the 3 years bit was swiftly changed to 5 years.
 
 The CG redevelopment bit has come to rest on the good offices of SBC, so in other words we can forget about it.

 I don't think the season ticket thing had anything to do with MM....rather we just hit the ceiling of support for L1 football without investment in players.

 Like it or not MKD who we managed to pip at the post a couple of seasons back, have shown what can be achieved with a bit of progress off the field...

played 42
won 13
drawn 11
points 50

4 games to go and 2 points from definate safety

fact?

I dunno Reg, I know of a few people who didn't buy a ST because they didn't like Malpas, or rather what he did to our team last season in that other abysmal run of form.

I got to page twelve and realised if I don't start peeling some potatoes this roast pork isn't going to happen.

Did they have onions at Crewe?

I don't know.

I had the last Chicken Balti pie if that helps.

All i'll say is imagine where we would be without Simon Cox's goals :(

imagine where we would be with Lamberts goals

Same place but having had 4-4 and 3-3 draws instead of 3-3 and 2-2.

Does that make sense?

About where Bristol Rovers are I'd guess.

ok what if we had Fryatts goals?

Nowhere near where Leicester are as they can defend, but probably about the same as Bristol rovers again.

Fryatt is also lucky to have an excellent strike partner in Howard.

Last season i was convinced all we needed was a 20 a season striker to do the Buisness this season...wrong again.

There was once a team who played Crewe
They didn't know what to do
They let in a soft one
A breakaway run
On half time, you would think they had the flu.

Doesn't matter if we had fryatt, lambert and cox. We still be leaking goals left right and centre.

we could out score them though, like newcastle of old under keegan

Back to the important point....

No, they didn't

Shocking.

I just watched the highlights on Virgin Media's website. According to the commentary Comminges made a good clearance, except it was Jerel.

Which was nice/borderline racist. borderline stupid and poorly researched.

We were beaten by an onionless Crewe?

Byrne Out!

It's borderline stupid and poorly researched.

Okay amended.

...and Smith should have done better on the goal and Aljofree was out of order

having just seen the goal conceeded,it looks like smith could have done better,but maybe he saw it late? the build up play was like a knife through butter, so a collectively poor goal to let in for sure.

The shot was hit well and not that far out from goal either, I've only seen it the once and my first impression was that Smith was not at fault, if the keeper saves it in a crowded area and pushes the ball out you would/he would hope that defenders would be quick to react.
I'm going to blame Aljofree for the goal, for me he was not concentrating on the incident, more involved in arguing the toss with someone else.

<haven't seen it myself so don't actually know what I'm talking about>Hope not, that's what he was doing when we conceded at Histon. Which I did see</haven't seen it myself so don't actually know what I'm talking about>

From looking at highlights it was difficult to blame anybody for that.....if you hit enough shots at the keeper he will spill eventually.....

can we inform our defenders of this law of averages please?

Forget the ground, our fans dont like our players anymore.

Never seen such a lack of direction and motivation in a Swindon side.

I think the problem with the players is weve got Paul Sturrock's team and no Paul Sturrock.

The team will not manage itself. Fitton needs to get a real strong man (with backroom staff) to come in and mould his own team then things wont pick up.

We're well capable of getting more support thruogh the doors but why the fuck would anyone want to spend their money on a pile of shite like we've got at the moment. Its not the worst I've ever seen ( Beamish ) but it may be the biggest set of under achievers / bottlers / disorganised / apathetic / dummy sucking / its all the fans fault / I've seen at the CG for many a year.
The only leadership that is shown at the CG is in areas that don't directly affect what happens on the pitch.   
The management team are fucking woeful - our captain is fucking woeful and the majority of our players are fucking woeful.
I still hope for 3 points Saturday from a bunch of cunts I have despised for most of this season. 

Hmm

We were really good for most of the first half, although Crewe really were not very good, when Peacock out ran their centre half we concluded he must be somewhat slow!! However when we ran out of ideas it was just lump it up or the other alternative seemed to be to pass it to Cox really hard at throat height!

We just seem to lack ideas, the defence drops way too deep which just allows teams to come on to us, whilst in midfield no one breaks forward to support the strikers. McGoven did my head in as he just seems to look for an easy ball evertime he got it never seemed to want to take anyone on (lack of confidence?), I actually thought that Jack Smith looked really good going forward 1st half and seemed up for it.

Cox works his arse off, but in its own way it is part of the problem as he ends up coming short for the ball and without anyone breaking from Midfield we basically end up with 1 up top, was impressed with Kennedy as he worked his arse off to such an extent that in the last 10 minutes every attacking move seemed to come through him, equally he seemed gutted at the end, just worried that playing in this demoralised team will spoil him.

The referee was a joke although the chicken balti pie was top dollar, oh and Crewe is really dull.

Whoah that's a bit strong isn't it?

I am in the Chalkies Shorts fan club but i reckon frustration has got the better of him.

Correct. I'm just sick and tired of hearing Malpas and Byrne talking about not getting any luck. Its not luck its sheer lack of professionalism. You can have bad luck in individual games but not for half a season. Individual errors are not bad luck. Being disorganised is not bad luck - blah, blah, blah.
This bunch of players are massively underachieving and its not all down to Byrne and Malpas - they need to take a long, hard look at themselves not only as players but as people. 
The last sentence I used was harsher than I meant and it came straight from the heart rather than the brain.

Dont apologise CS-your points are very valid.No side is unlucky every week