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Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: TalkTalk on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 07:58:58
Smarmes was on Beeb Swindon again this morning talking about the almost imminent injection of dosh by the mystery investor.

Ed suggested that a lot of supporters would be sceptical, having heard this one so many times before. Bless him.


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 08:01:24
show us the money or sod off!


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 08:10:41
The way they are playing this I'd say they are talking to someone. But whether progress is being overstated or not is another matter.

Interestingly the BBC RS report said that although the amounts were not known it is beleived that Sir Seaton Wills would still be involved in the club.  I hope that doen't mean retention of his advisor/certain board members.

We need either a shit load of money or a complete change in leadership before things will ultinmately settle down and everyone can return to enjoying the football, whilst pulling in the same direction off the field.


Title: Re: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 08:39:38
Quote from: "TalkTalk"
Smarmes was on Beeb Swindon again this morning talking about the almost imminent injection of dosh by the mystery investor.

Ed suggested that a lot of supporters would be sceptical, having heard this one so many times before. Bless him.

As it's three weeks since Andronikou said there's be an announcement in two weeks I'd expect this is as much an attempt to stave off "So where is he then?" as anything.


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Give us an S on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 08:48:39
Im sure the mystery investor will pull out at the last minute and the fans will some how be blamed for it.


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: STFC Bart on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 09:07:28
Exactly give us an S

Who in their right mind or with any business brain entrust large amounts with Newbury and co.

24 days left until the CVA is due- the clock is ticking down fast.

Also why wont they sign the bloody NDA?


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 09:25:14
considering Starnes is also in today's adver insisting there was "no decision to make" over the rovers groundshare, it's clearly another blatant piece of male cow poo.


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 09:40:09
Actually to be fair to Starnes he's right that there was no decision to make in that it was taken out of their hands - Rovers looked at the amount of opposition the idea was attracting, saw that Swindon were making a total dog's breakfast of the PR/consultation process (and running the risk of substantial opposition on a political level) and concluded it was a mess that wasn't going to be sorted out in the timeframes they needed in order to satisfy the League and sell season tickets so they pulled the plug. So no decision was needed by STFC in that sense as it was made for them.


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Richard4acre on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 09:52:40
Once the CVA payment is made .. Is this the 'bullet payment' that will clear the CVA off? This leaving us with a substantially decreased debt?


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 10:00:20
Quote from: "Richard4acre"
Once the CVA payment is made .. Is this the 'bullet payment' that will clear the CVA off? This leaving us with a substantially decreased debt?

Yes, that's correct. Although there's two problems with that:

1) Both the board and Andronikou have repeatedly said they have no chance of paying it
2) They've accumulated quite a lot of other debt in the meantime


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 10:01:48
Quote from: "pauld"
Actually to be fair to Starnes he's right that there was no decision to make in that it was taken out of their hands - Rovers looked at the amount of opposition the idea was attracting, saw that Swindon were making a total dog's breakfast of the PR/consultation process (and running the risk of substantial opposition on a political level) and concluded it was a mess that wasn't going to be sorted out in the timeframes they needed in order to satisfy the League and sell season tickets so they pulled the plug. So no decision was needed by STFC in that sense as it was made for them.


starnes was trying to make it sound as though they weren't for or against the idea, which is the bit that is bollocks


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 10:02:14
It is the bullet payment meaning the debt covered by the CVA will be paid off.

However there will still be debts arising from our year on year losses since the CVA regarding servicing of whatever it is we have borrowed/mortgaged/etc to cover these losses.

edit: arse, 2 mins too late (see above)


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: STFC Bart on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 10:06:50
Yes year on year losses accrued by this board. This is why no one in their right mind will give them any moneyand let them retain control. Surely?


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: stfctownenda on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 12:04:04
Quote from: "sonic youth"
Quote from: "pauld"
Actually to be fair to Starnes he's right that there was no decision to make in that it was taken out of their hands - Rovers looked at the amount of opposition the idea was attracting, saw that Swindon were making a total dog's breakfast of the PR/consultation process (and running the risk of substantial opposition on a political level) and concluded it was a mess that wasn't going to be sorted out in the timeframes they needed in order to satisfy the League and sell season tickets so they pulled the plug. So no decision was needed by STFC in that sense as it was made for them.


starnes was trying to make it sound as though they weren't for or against the idea, which is the bit that is bollocks


That is a classic bit of the article.  After reading back of yesterdays Western Daily Press in which the Rovers chairman said we were very co-operative and positive in negotiations and effectively offered them the hand of friendnship I would say our board were doing everything they could to push it through.

Todays article with Starnes was predictable, boring and complete horse shit.  Definitely think this was a big win for the fans and the public of Swindon and also big plus points again for the adver who kept it in the public eye and covered several articles on it, Andy Cryer has been good lets hope he continues in the same style.


Title: Re: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 12:31:48
Quote from: "pauld"
Quote from: "TalkTalk"
Smarmes was on Beeb Swindon again this morning talking about the almost imminent injection of dosh by the mystery investor.

Ed suggested that a lot of supporters would be sceptical, having heard this one so many times before. Bless him.

As it's three weeks since Andronikou said there's be an announcement in two weeks I'd expect this is as much an attempt to stave off "So where is he then?" as anything.


i think that's exactly it Paul


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 16:30:22
did he clarify whether this investor is one of the two investors that suddenly appeared at the start of the year (and have since disappeared), or is it a Brand New One?


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 17:00:11
They aren't going to let us know about those sort of details - we are mere turnstile fodder to them.

But to be fair though who in their right mind would trust this lot with £10 let alone £1 Million they would have to be mad or stupid - or both !!


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: ron dodgers on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 23:19:37
is it the young geezer who started glasses direct based in Malmesbury?


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 06:43:21
Quote from: "ron dodgers"
is it the young geezer who started glasses direct based in Malmesbury?


Probably. Just that they haven't told him yet. I'm sure he'll be delighted though. We're as safe as an ISA with the Iranian National Bank.


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 09:12:35
ffs this board do my nut.

they have a sound investor with BP and a way to move this club forward yet they are hell bent on staying and pissing us off even more.

When willy gained control of the club 5 years ago he did so by forcing the other guys out (forgot what it's called) can BP not do this with Willy and the cunt diamond Mike


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: @MacPhlea on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 10:16:11
No cos' willy had the backing of the majority shareholder... a certain SSW


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 10:23:25
Quote from: "triseros"
No cos' willy had the backing of the majority shareholder... a certain SSW


cheers Triseros.  :cry:


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 11:21:30
I know this is Swindon Town and we whould never be surprised, but Starnes says on the BBC web site:

"I understand the investment would be substantial and make a big difference to Swindon Town's finances."

He 'understands' that the investment will be substantial, he's the Chief Executive FFS if he doesnt know who bloody does!


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 11:36:06
Quote from: "horlock07"
he's the Chief Executive FFS if he doesnt know who bloody does!


Actually he's still ACTING Chief Exec, and we all know he has no power, as he takes orders from Diamond Mike.


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 11:37:54
Starnes is kept out of the loop, only being told what they want to tell him.

Always has been, always will be !


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: red macca on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 11:59:53
Quote from: "Power to people"
They aren't going to let us know about those sort of details - we are mere turnstile fodder to them.

But to be fair though who in their right mind would trust this lot with £10 let alone £1 Million they would have to be mad or stupid - or both !!
Dont take this the wrong way but bill power did


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: herthab on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 12:02:14
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "Power to people"
They aren't going to let us know about those sort of details - we are mere turnstile fodder to them.

But to be fair though who in their right mind would trust this lot with £10 let alone £1 Million they would have to be mad or stupid - or both !!
Dont take this the wrong way but bill power did



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Fucking mint Macca!


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 12:03:19
Sturrock is back with talk of an investor. For this to be BS would really, really stupid ....

http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/SturrockDetails/0,,10341~1033784,00.html

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Good afternoon

I hope you are all well and enjoying a few Saturday's away from football after what was a successful season for us. I returned from my holiday late last night and as you can see, it's straight back to the thick of things!

The Kingswood Group have now been announced as the club's new main sponsors and I am delighted with the news. They are a local company and it kicks-off the year in the right way. I want us, as a football club, to be closer to the community of Swindon and we have started things how we mean to go on. Kingswood have helped us already with the redevelopment of the referee's room last season and they also donated a van to assist with kit transportation. I am looking forward to developing what is already an excellent relationship we have with The Kingswood Group.

Kingswood Construction Launch

I think most managers and most players are on holiday at this moment in time. I have made a lot of phone calls and spent a fair amount of time whilst on the cruise making calls. I have a lot of feelers out and I am waiting on word from several agents about their players availability. There is nothing concrete at the moment, but now I am back things will start to move although I do have a few people who are keen to join us. In a few weeks time the shoe will be on the other foot, with agents phoning me.

There has been a lot of speculation whilst I have been away, linking ourselves with several of my former players. In principle this is something that may interest me, because I would know the players well but that would be the case in any case of life. It gives me options that's for sure. There are many areas I'd like to strengthen and we shall see what develops over the coming weeks.

They said...
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I have targets and I am sure things will start to move sooner rather than later...
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Paul Sturrock

Investors are on the horizon and if that comes to fruition then the goalposts would move for me in terms of transfer targets. I am very hopeful that the investment will happen and it would help me in my search for 'prime beef' to add to the squad.

Andy Nicholas and Michael Pook were away on holiday when I left for my break, so I will be talking to them this week. There are still places to fill in the squad and I still have to have conversations with Blair, Claude and Patrick too. I am looking to streamline the squad for League One although there are key areas we need to fill.

I am now going to head back to Sheffield to take my family back home, although I have a meeting with an agent on my way back!


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 12:05:29
streamline the squad? how much thinner can it get?


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: red macca on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 12:06:24
I think he means basically saying goodbye to blair and nouboussie


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 12:11:45
yeah i think he'll get rid of them two. i think he wants 3 strikers and 3 defenders


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: red macca on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 12:13:42
And two wingers rich


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: glos_robin on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 13:20:08
Quote from: "red macca"
And two wingers rich


And centre mids ie Easton and Adams


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 13:22:47
yeah i can't see Mr Pook staying either


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 13:53:36
Quote from: "Rich"
yeah i can't see Mr Pook staying either


thank god


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Phil_S on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 14:25:55
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "Power to people"
They aren't going to let us know about those sort of details - we are mere turnstile fodder to them.

But to be fair though who in their right mind would trust this lot with £10 let alone £1 Million they would have to be mad or stupid - or both !!
Dont take this the wrong way but bill power did

So did those who bought season tickets !


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: red macca on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 14:52:52
Quote from: "Phil_S"
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "Power to people"
They aren't going to let us know about those sort of details - we are mere turnstile fodder to them.

But to be fair though who in their right mind would trust this lot with £10 let alone £1 Million they would have to be mad or stupid - or both !!
Dont take this the wrong way but bill power did

So did those who bought season tickets !
Cant compare the two tbh mate


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 17:15:36
Let's be even fairer though Macca...we only know just how bad this board are because of Bill Power's investment. Had it not happened and then gone sour, we'd still all be much more in the dark.


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: red macca on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 21:07:03
Not doubting that at all si, But that was misfortune on powers part.Im just pointing out that the board obviously are very capable at putting a pretty good spin on things as bill power found out last year


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 21:44:44
Quote from: "red macca"
Not doubting that at all si, But that was misfortune on powers part.Im just pointing out that the board obviously are very capable at putting a pretty good spin on things as bill power found out last year
And a certain Mr. D. Wise


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 12:35:48
From today's Adver:

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Despite the hitches, Sturrock, who is expecting an update from the board about the potential takeover in the next couple of days, is full of confidence things will work out.


http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/display.var.1470649.0.sturrock_forced_to_play_waiting_game.php

Takeover? Is he talking about BP or the mystery investor? Takeover???


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 12:52:41
Cue statement from stfc tomorrow on "Statement Friday" advising that the mystery investor has been scared off due to Bill's threat of legal action and that as there has not been any further communication from Bill's legal advisers they consider this matter closed and the fan;s consortium have been disolved, and are glad that Bill accepts his money was for shares.

Then then Bill issues a counter statement advising that he has recieved a court date.

Then a counter statement from stfc saying if Bill would like to get in touch they will discuss a takeover.

 :beers:


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: redbullzeye on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 12:55:22
Quote from: "TalkTalk"
From today's Adver:

Quote
Despite the hitches, Sturrock, who is expecting an update from the board about the potential takeover in the next couple of days, is full of confidence things will work out.


http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/display.var.1470649.0.sturrock_forced_to_play_waiting_game.php

Takeover? Is he talking about BP or the mystery investor? Takeover???

I can't remember them using that word before - probably a typo but you never know..


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 13:33:22
FFS There is NO investor. Its all spin to promote season ticket sales. Why am I the only one who can see this?


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: herthab on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 13:34:32
Quote from: "The Grim Reaper"
FFS There is NO investor. Its all spin to promote season ticket sales. Why am I the only one who can see this?


Because you're the only one that's so blinkered?


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 13:35:17
Quote from: "The Grim Reaper"
FFS There is NO investor. Its all spin to promote season ticket sales. Why am I the only one who can see this?


because everyone else on here is hook, line and sinker?

I don't think you're the first to point out that this is the 7th "new investor" in as many months.


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: herthab on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 13:37:53
I think most have doubts about a new investor. But to dismiss it out of hand is a bit premature.

Maybe this is the 1 in a 100 times when the board is actually telling the truth?

I don't know...........


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: redbullzeye on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 15:09:50
Quote from: "The Grim Reaper"
FFS There is NO investor. Its all spin to promote season ticket sales. Why am I the only one who can see this?


Talk Talk's point was the latest communique from the club didn't use the word investor but spoke of a "potential takeover" which is a totally different issue


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 15:26:58
Quote from: "The Grim Reaper"
FFS There is NO investor. Its all spin to promote season ticket sales. Why am I the only one who can see this?


because you're a genius and we're all thickos


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 15:27:51
everyone is special needs apart from you reaper


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 22:24:13
Has ex-Millwall chairman Peter de Savary's name been mentioned before?

If itís the same investor mentioned by Diamandisí he fits the bill as the local entrepreneur and once owned the Willsí estate.

He resigned from Millwall after just 10 months having taken control from Dragonís Den Theo Pathathathathis but still holds a large investment in their holding company.  Not sure what the legality would be of having an interest in two clubs albeit via holding companies.


Title: "Mystery Investor" - again
Post by: Razzledazzle on Thursday, June 14, 2007, 22:40:52
There's no way we would want that de savary bloke here, he gave up on millwall very quickly.