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likey bushey said its true he is going to everton, he went for a medical today, will join at the end of the season £750,000 rising to £1.5M on appearences

sauce?

Source ?

from the man himself

IF thats true, then its not that bad. 750000 for a 17 year old in league 2 is a good bit of business.

That is of course, IF it is true

If that's true, it sounds like a good deal.

I now wait for all the posts explaining why it's not...................................

:shock:

Excellent business

IMHO he is not even proven himself at this level yet

750K for a 17 year old?

Not likely.

this is happening, i swear to u all, ull see soon enough

750k + Wise/Poyet compensation = cva payment

mylifeisstfc, are you a youth team player??

Walcott?

I know it's not that good a comparison, but if Everton really think he's got potential, 750,000 isn't much for them to splash out.

rooney

gareth bale

it happens!

I am a bit disappointed we don't get more for appearances.  What if he goes really far in the future, it would feel we been robbed.

Lukas said he wasnt going on saturday.

Heard nothing Evertons end, wont believe it till I see it...

If we do sell its a fucking joke and I wont be happy at all.

We won't see any of the money put into players anyway...even if it was £3m

I'll believe it when I see it, but it wouldn't surprise me. A fee of more than £250k would though

fatbart will knowwhat's happening...watch this space

What if he turns out to be total gash?

What if he's really a League 1 player at best?

What if he gets injured?

750K for an unproven 17 year old is good money for us.

There may even be a sell on clause, which would make sense.

So there probably isn't................................

That would piss me off. Yes, I would like it paid off, but I would like some cash invested in the playing squad.

And I don't want to sell Lukas.  :x

Sell, Sell, Sell

Shearer, Fjortoft, Fallon...

Always happens and we always end up worse off for it....

Still he cant be signed anyone at the moment anyway?

Um, this guy has posted 23 times, how do we not know that it is a total windup?

Everton scouts were at the youth cup game the other week so it's not beyond the realms of possibility.  

750k seems unrealistic though.  Likely to be undisclosed (as always) but I’d imagine it would be closer to 500k.  Fortunately he’s tied down on a contract so for once we’re not having our hand forced.

Yep...i sat with Fred and thought i spotted Kevin Sheedy with an older bald fella at the newcastle youth game.
£750k rising if accurate aint a bad price. I just hope that if it happens, we have the foresight to put a sell on clause in any deal.
As Dazza says though, IF it happens, watch the fee being undisclosed. :-))(

It would be sat to see him go as he does have potential but if it is true i can see him going.

We did indeed mate

If we are letting one of our brightest prospects go for that sort of money its a fucking joke.If he's the player that all his managers seem to think he is then surely hes going to be worth alot more than that in 2-3 years?

We're in this league because of this sort of attitude from the board and fans sanctioning it.."oh hes unproven lets get what we can now just incase it doesnt work out"Utter utter bollocks.

Oh and Man Utd paid 12 million for a teenager not so long ago so 2 or 3 blinding seasons from from the lad could see him worth alot more.(I know he aint no Ronaldo but you never know :mrgreen: )

The only reason why i wouldn't be happy about us selling another player is due to the fact that no money is ever put back into the Club.

Load of Old Bollocks.

I don't see why anybody would want to spend ltos on him right now as he hasn't really proven himself.
A good prospect but as a Premiership club i would wait and see

If it is true I would be AMAZED if the fee was released

:nod:

at this moment in time it would be a good price for him.

Only time will tell if it represents a good deal for STFC in the long term. Could all be bollocks though.

We're not a big club. We will always sell our best players. get used to it

Its not about not selling him though is it, its about maximising what you can get for him by keeping him here,developing and playing him.Its about taking a risk and not taking the first offer that comes along.

I agree it could all be bollocks by the way im speaking hypotheticaly :D

Yeovil I know what you are saying.  someone brought up the example of Robin Hulbert the other day. We apparantly got offered £250k for him, a couple o years later he ended up leaving for nothing because he was shite.

Check out the thread the other day where we were dicussing what he is worth- this would be more than anyone valued him at.

You are all wrong,short sighted and Boardroom Pasties the only person who talks any sense on the matter is DV .

Didn't Hulbert leave on the cheap as Ty Gooden and Iffy did during that season?

Think it might have been we had to pay £50k if he played for us again?  Anyway point is he was shite.

And VD never talks sense. He'll start going on about Monkhouse being the white northern pele again in a minute.

750k is good money and all that but FOR FUCKS SAKE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LUKAS ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING FOR US BEFORE HE MOVES ON!

You know, like play every week, score goals on a regular basis, help us get promoted. That sort of thing. It would be nice, don't you think :roll:

 :D

hartlepool are doing alright arent they...17 wins and 2 draws from the last 19  :shock:

champions.... :roll:

It’s a shit state of affairs when you get teams like Everton, Reading and Bolton farming lower league youth teams for talent.  Especially at that sort of price. That’s no disrespect to them all either but it shows the gaping maw in the cash not being distributed through the leagues.

The top 3 in the Premiership, with the Arse being the prime example haved moved on and are now pinching youngsters around the world with the vigour of a Gary Glitter busman’s holiday.

Spurs are another who have been ploughing through yuuuf teams in recent years as our young Mills was a prime example a couple of seasons back.

Funny when you look at our current side how many have filtered down the pyramid rather than from the same or lower league sides.  Few exceptions as always but rarely we see ourselves poaching, more than likely because there’s not much left to poach.

While it seems alot of money for someone who has hardly played, it would be a shit bit of business.  Alright, he might not go on to do anything and we would then have lost out on the money, but they only way you're ever going to get anywhere in any walk of life is to take chances once in a while.

How long has he got on his contract anyway?  Three years from the end of this season, or the start?

If i had any faith that the board might put the money to good use.... like paying the CVA or investing in the squad..... then i could live with it :x

I appreciate Hartlepool are doing well, and may well win the league but I'd suggest it is more down to their rock solid central defence of phil and grant mitchell than monkey.

They also happened to seel their best player - Adam boyd, didnt they?

To be honest I'd like him to stay, score goals and become a bit of a (semi) local hero. I'm not going all pro-board here but how many sides in L2 or L1 would turn down that cash?

Like I said, we won't see any of the transfer money re-invested into the team, so what's the point of selling.

Odd though, that they didnt hit form untill Monkhouse went there though and they've dropped all of 6 points (3 draws) since.

 :D

I'd say he reminds me very much of pele, but white and northern :surrender:

I'd say more of a Maradonna than Pele  :D

he's like an alive version of matthuas sintelar.

please dont sell.

If this happens it will be the first time in my life I can shout told you so!

But the board should not sell, this would say alot about what is wrong with our club!  Nop explanation why hes hardly played since walsall, this was a done deal ages ago!

Great point there, he was ace at Walsall yet hasn't hardly been given a decent run since then.   :?

Yeovil makes some good points there!

My major concern is that if this deal DOES go through, and then the cva gets paid, the incumbent board are off the hook again to many people who perhaps dont fully understand the gravity of the current situation. Thats my main worry. :shock:
I saw more in Caton a year or two back than Lucas has got, but i worry that his(Caton's) career might be over before it has had a chance to get going.

Millom

Agree with Yeovil.  Sturrock has repeatedly said that Lukas could be "top drawer".  I would like to see him stay with us for a couple of seasons play some first team football and then move on.  We have invested time and money developing Lukas and I would like to see the benefit of that on the CG pitch and not in a cheque from Everton.

Seems to me that in general, selling LJ for that sort of money would usually be great business. He is largely unproven, and could turn out to be average at best.

However, due to our current situation, it would be a big let off for the current board (they had it all under control etc). Therefore, i'd hate to see him leave now.

Much rather get Bill Power into the club, pay pff our debts, then maybe sell the guy and use the money (which would be a large amount for this division to use on players) to improve the squad.

Everton remember Paul Rideout-although he scored shitloads at this level before he left us.Has LJ ever played for England?

If true that is a good price. I can't see it myself. Not seen enough of him yet to say he is good enough to pay that for him, and in the prem?

What's Rideout up to these days? Anyone know?

I don't think Jutkiewicz has any England honours.

of course if he does go then how many striking options would we be left with? The answer is of course not enough, there isn't enough compatition for places at the moment and seems like will cant get anyone in because they don't wanna come here. So the big picture would be not to sell him.

Surely if we do sell him, which I think at this moment is a bit unlikely, that he could only be actually sold at the end of the season as its out of transfer window so I dont think that matters.

£750,000 :shock:  
 that is a great price for him imo.could end up top drawer but its all ifs and buts.swindon have always been a selling club but this looks like a fair price compared to some of the shit money we have got for players.

Same here - mind you they've had BP's 1.2 million quid to sort the CVA out but it's still outstanding.  What's to stop them trousering this money as well.

I totally agree with Arriba on this one.

So this is the wind fall payment that Andronikou was going on about during the fans forum.

It would get used to help pay off the reported 800,000 overspend, and then don't forget to add the pay off into that that they obviously gave Mark D as they don't like him anymore, and then there are problaby others debts that will suddenly appear that they will have to pay.

Didn't Mike D say in one of his interviews that he had not been taking a wage, maybe he will require back pay when it can be afforded ??

Is this all confirmed then?

No it is all speculation

If the speculation is true about lucas that means the board will go no were if the debts get cleared willl they. :evil:

The only way Sturrock will sell him is if Everton buy him but allow us to keep him for another year.

why?

Dunno, was on RS earlier.

The bigger the income, the bigger the black hole gets with this board.

Breaks my heart to see all these young players leave before weve even had a chance to give them a run. That fella who went to Spurs would have been 1st team by now, instead he's vanished off the football map.

Mills is at colchester on loan at the mo i think.(i could be wrong)

Let's sell him for £750k. My mate Mike reckons it'd be one of the 3 best transfer deal outside the Premiership

wrong, they've got Matt Mills on loan from Manchester City.

scored a cracking og on tuesday.

Heard more very strong rumours about this today, Lucas had medical tuesday and then agreed personal details late into tuesday evening, price to be around a million, but not all up front obviously

I think its true to be honest. :(

I might use it as an excuse not to go anymore.

Done deal by all accounts.£1 million i will only be happy if the club see this as the last chance to get some money and fuck off now.

I dont think any league 2 club could really turn that down though.Expect to see a loan striker come in very soon possibly from everton?

Duncan Ferguson  :|

What is everyone's source? So far I've seen nothing to suggest that this is anything more than a rumour made up by somebody whose been banned under at least a dozen different names followed by others suggesting it's a "done deal".

I can't see Everton paying that much to sign a pretty much unproven striker at League 2 level.

about to be announced on the radio ooooooooooo

is it?

Just was yeovil

Red M, are you saying it was confirmed on the radio?

It said reports coming from the count ground that he has signed a pre contract with everton.Paul sturrocj refused to comment at the moment

Cheers, I think.

Just heard tis true, signing tomorrow.

Im fucked off in that case and I dont give a fuck how much we're getting and if any cunt thinks any of it will go to anything bar paying off Wills loans you're deluded.I hate this club at the moment.

can o just say CUNTS, they just sold our future

its good buisiness for a club like ours.shame the money will be swallowed up into oblivion though

and how long before we have to hear that Diamandis cunt tell us how this is another of the "great deals" hes done...

No it fucking isnt its a short sighted temporory fix and gutless.

Hmmmmmmmm.....very disappointing. Not surprising but very very disappointing :negsy:

I am inclined to agree with Yeovil :?

IF this is true:

I have to be honest, it's (alegedly) good money for an unproven 17 year old div 4 player. We are a selling club and always will be.

But it should be a descision made in the best interests of the player, the football club, and  to progress us on and off the field. It should not be a desparate sale out of neccesity to keep us afloat and cover certain individuals incoppetance and failings. Particluarily when other options exist were they not bloody minded, ignorant fools.

Await the "we had to sell to give Bill Power his money back" li(n)e at 5:30pm on Friday now.

it doesn't make any difference at all imo who is in charge at the club.if he's going he would have been going anyway regardless.if its £750,000+ then thats great money for him.its where that money goes that concerns me

We are a selling club because our gutless fan base accept it as so.

Agree Batch, I never want to see our players sold - with the odd exception, but once a big club come in frankly the club have to listen, it might even be a clause of Lukas' new contract that we have to inform him of offers over a certain figure.  That kind of money we have never been able to turn down.  I think it's a massive shame, but at the same time potentially a fantastic amount of cash for an unproven player.  Look at Lukas' position - go to a club with history etc - more money, more opportunities etc - it takes some balls to turn it down, even though he won't sniff first team football for years.  My major issue is the money won't be used correctly - paying Boyd Butler, mike Bowden etc and filling a black hole in Newbury is the likely destination of it, and that's what's gonna anger me.

or maybe the lad wants to play at a higher level?

What a shame - I'm very disappointed.

Just as well we got him to sign a lengthy contract as he'd be walking away for next to nothing.

Still, he could have been a brilliant Swindon Town player - if he does leave.

NO AMBITION!

So we're effectivly asset stripping again in order to cover what REALLY goes on with the money and the magic black hole.

Its a fucking joke, this isnt in any way shape or form the best possible move for the TEAM! we're selling a good young player and replacing him with fuck all (I expect!)

Ok, so chances are he will pay the cva, which in the long run is a good thing and it means we will have a club (providing the club do actually use the money to pay the cva) but we shouldnt have been so far down shit creek with out a paddle to start with.

Plus everyone seems so certain the cva could be re-worked over 10 years....so why is there a need to sell now?

This club is a fucking joke and I wonder why I bother, we've got no ambition and no drive to move forward and work our way back up the football leagues. We're fucked and we're becoming a piss poor tinpot shite 4th division club. We're fucking better than that

About time they fucked off!

We are a selling club because we don't have enough money to resist or a high enough league position/good enough facilities to persuede players to stay.

I'd agree with this. There wasn't even a media tug-of-war... We just lay down and allow the big-boys to snatch our players - like we've always done really.

Jutkiewicz's reaction when we scored against Bristol City last season suggested that he loves playing football for Swindon.

You can't rule out parental advice and stuff like that but it's bollocks. This board knows how to annoy (understatement)

Thats crap and you know it,hes on a 3 or 4 year contract and hes not going to be playing first team football at Everton anytime soon.

although....if we get James Beattie as part of the deal!!

I expect Lukas will be out on loan next season to a League One/Two club anyway....might as well have stayed here....more chances of first team football. No that I think he had much of a say in the matter.

Less than a year after making his first start, he's sold....fucking brilliant.

Fucking ridiculous, it beggars belief how some of you can just shrug this off!

its still a great move for him though and i certainly don't begrudge him for taking the opportunity.  what i don't like is, as many others have said, that i suspect all of that money will be gone as 'operating costs' or similar

thats why getting such a good price for him now is good buisness.who knows how his career will go.its big money for an unproven player.more dosh than for sammy parkin who was a proven goal machine.
i wanted him to stay, but we always have lost players to bigger clubs.its nothing new is it

I wonder if he wanted to go or that the board couldn't turn the money down...

This had made me majorly fucking angry. What a complete and utter joke this club is. Probably the most potential young player we've had in years and he's sold at the first sniff of an offer.

I wonder if Sturrock had a say in this at all, or was the deal masterminded by our wonderfully inept 'general manager'.

My worry is the payment will be nowhere near £750k, but I guess we'll never find that out anyway because they don't seem to like disclosing transfer fees anymore.

DISGUSTING!!

It now becomes apparent why Sturrock hasnt been playing him (although you might think playing him would increase the price it also increases the risk of him getting injured!)

It wont be £1million I can assure you of that - I heard its a £100k downpayment and then will be up to a MAXIMUM of £500k depending on appearances etc

We needed to get a striker in NOT SELL ONE ....

Sturrocks obvious touting of Lukas as I said before shows where his loyalties lie - as far as I am concerned he is in with the board - I know you dont all agree with that but thats what I think -

We arent going up with this attitude - I think the board just want us to get to the playoffs for the extra money but dont want us to go up  so they dont have to pay the bonuses and Sturrock is going to support that stance!

once again DISGUSTING!

The money will go down the same 'black hole' as the Sam Parkin and the Rory Fallon transfer fees.

We don't know what these fees have gone to, as they haven't done the accounts.

You mean Sir Seton's back pocket?

Get the board out NOW

I for one will not be renewing my ticket if they are still here come the summer

from the adver

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/display.var.1262263.0..php

nice of Sturrock to tell us about this "trial period"

"A fee is unlikely to be revealed "

Too fucking right it won't be revealed :?

It says 'trailed'. It means they've been interested for some time - not he's been on trial with them.

Also, how convenient is it that the news has been 'leaked' at a time when we haven't got a home game for another 3 weeks?

trailed Fatbury its different

Shock horror  :shock:

Surely all transfers fees should be readily available? would help clear things up with agents etc - these things need to be transparent so the man on the street knows whats going on at the club he supports.

Oh, and Fatbury. The TRAILED him, not trialled him. Fuckwit.

Exactly my thoughts OST.  Surprise surprise the club choose to keep us in the dark again, over monetary matters!!

All depends how much we sell him for as to wether its a good deal or not.  

Some you do seem to think we're manchester united though. Get real please. Even if the consortium get in to power we are not suddenly going to become a non selling club

The problem is that Parkin and Fallon were sold at knock down prices and this probably won't be any different. The money will never be seen again!

it will be the £1million

it aint gonna be £1m upfront, same as Walcott's wasnt £12m upfront.

what a complete fucking joke.

hope diamandis and SSW enjoy the new conservatories, BMW X5s and thai ladyboy hookers that they're gonna get with the transfer money, cos it aint being spent in/on/around this club, thats for sure!

I've had enough. i really have. i want these fuckers out, and i want them out NOW. fucking asset-striping cuntwipes.

CUNTS

What a fucking joke, this has pissed me right off, you dont sell your future and have no ambition!

This board are fucking wankers. CUNTS   :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

Thats a bit harsh mate.....not a lot we can do about it is there.
Lets face it, these cunts dont listen to or respect any fuckin thing we say......just look at Bob Fuckin Holt and his gesticulating and taunting on saturday.
Frustrated Millom

cunts cunts cunts

ive had enough too! this club is just a joke at the moment! i really am getting totally and utterly pissed off with this pathetic board we have  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

Ok so if Lucas was being watched by so many clubs then it was bound to attract interest and potential offers.

If by the sounds of it he is off to Everton, was this the first offer or have other club's put in offers for him and they have been rejected as they was too low.

Surely it makes sense to hold on and if you are going to sell him tout him around the clubs that are interested to bump up the fee.

Let a few clubs battle for his signature bumping up the fee at the same time.

Although dosen't Phil Cannon still work in the youth dept at Everton so he may have had an influence on Lucas' decision.

This is one time the club should be transparent and tell us what the deal is and how much it is for and what the incentives are.

I have a suspicion though that this was the first offer received and the board have snapped it up.

Spooky.


I hope this spurs more people on to protest, but at the moment I feel like the life and soul of this club has finally been sucked into oblivion.

Has it been confirmed yet?

It was on the radio and in the adver if that counts...

Tis in today's adver, although I don't know why I'm telling you. Cunt.

According to the thisis website STFC are refusing to comment. Cue a Sturrock update at some point.

As we all know, we are in desperate need for an in-form striker - even if Lukas goes in the summer - surely he's going to be wrapped in cotton wool to protect the transaction? Therefore that'll be yet another option out the window.

why am I a cunt? (this is open to anyone  :D )

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/sportlatest/display.var.1262263.0.swindon_town_lukas_to_join_the_toffees.php

absolutely gutted

This just about sums up this club at the moment.

PS Fuck off Fatbury you Knob and change the record about Sturrock and the board,they employ him you twat, what do you want him to say? "Diamond Mike is a cunt and i hate him ! "

I bet Sturrock is fucking seething

I would have thought so.

He'll probably get told he'll have some money in the summer. Then probably get about 3 loanees in

From the way he was touting him around a few weeks back (that's certainly how it sounded to me at least) I would not have thought that would be the case. It sounded to me like that's exactly what he wanted to happen, no doubt on the basis that it would allow him a bit of leaway on the transfer front. We can only hope that does happen now.

And we'll get a shitty pre season friendly against an Everton XI as part of the deal. Whoopee-doo.

it is a real shame we have again yet to sell one of our most promising youngsters just so the board can make a fast buck and pay off some debts.

i fucking hope this board go soon cos they're bleeding OUR club dry.

£750,000 to £1,000,000.

Will any of it be spent on transfer fees?
Will the club now pay the 'bullet' CVA payment?

I don't think I need to answer either of those questions.

I sincerely doubt Sturrock was touting him, he's been protective of the lad - not allowing him to talk to the media etc - so inviting clubs to bid for him is hardly conducive to his development as a player.

Not sure why but I thought Lukas would be with us for a couple of years before moving on, half a dozen games is a shame. I fully expect him to disappear into the ether now and end up playing non-league football by 2010.

What irks me most is the board's apparent willingness to roll over and allow clubs poach future prospects - I don't blame Everton, Lukas or Sturrock at all.

One thing we can be thankful for is that Wise had the foresight to give him a three year contract in the summer - whilst Bill was still at the club - otherwise we'd be losing him for a pittance. I expect his contract was one of the overspends  :roll:

Not gutted, just disappointed. It's not going to help our promotion push much either.

Mate - I'm quite he sure was - It was in one of his updates a while back.

To be honest, as much as I'd like him to stay, I don't think the board have any option at the moment other than to sell him - especially considering the current financial state.

Of course, if they let BP in none of this would have happened ...

I misread it as a trialed not trailed - I guess that what happens when you are busy at work and all this shit breaks!!

Sturrock WAS deffo touting him .. the question is whether he did it FOR the board or FOR funds

SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!!!!!!!!

 :groan1:

 :fatbury:

No mention in the latest update about Lucus .. ho hum.

Fuck of Fatbury that's sick and too far, I think someone should ring the police.

Oops. I misread that as "I like to sleep with 8 year old boys", guess that's what happens when your busy at home and a bit tired.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

why no mention of Lukas in Sturrock's Update??? That stinks!

He probably writes it a few days in advance and didn't know that it would be public knowledge yet. Apparently he's quite busy running a football club.

shame it got out early then in that case isnt it :grin:

Some top quality touting here  :wanker:  :shrug:



Sturrock: All eyes on Jutkiewicz
Wed 14 Feb, 1:15 PM

Swindon boss Paul Sturrock has admitted a host of scouts were watching Lukas Jutkiewicz during the FA Youth Cup clash against Newcastle.Jutkiewicz, 17, enhanced his growing reputation with a superb goal but could not prevent his side crashing out of the competition on Monday night.

"They were all there. Assistant managers, European scouts, first-team coaches, all sorts of people," Sturrock told the club's official website.

"In the end you can appreciate why they were there. They're not going to steal a load of Newcastle players away and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to appreciate who they were out looking at.

"Anybody that scores goals in this league at 17 years of age, well it would be very unprofessional of the Premiership teams not to have a wee peek."

Meanwhile, Sturrock confirmed that Gareth Cunt Whalley is currently having a week's trial with Conference strugglers Halifax.

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/blues-in-talks-over-striker.html

Everton are in discussions with Swindon Town over the possible transfer of young striker Lukas Jutkiewicz.

The talks are with a view to signing the 17-year-old forward when the transfer window re-opens in the summer.

Jutkiewicz has netted two senior goals for the League Two side this season and put pen-to-paper on a three year deal at the County Ground in the summer.

The young Englishman is a former Southampton player and first rose to prominence in 2004 when he finished as top scorer at the Milk Cup in Northern Ireland.

Cue Swindon announcement exactly the same as the Everton article.

Sadly its not much of a surprise,i was expecting it really.Of course the board are going to want to sell one of our brightest young talents,not only to get themselves out of the massive hole they've got into but to piss the fans off as well.I'm sure the greedy bastards who are sucking our club dry are rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of selling the lad.

I for one am upset but sadly resigned to the fact that he's going to go,if not to Everton then somewhere else :cry:

Lucas denied this when he was asked on Saturday. Thinking back though, his response was a bit sheepish to say teh least.

Another thing is will Lukas be available to play for us again this season? surely if Everton sign him then they would be worried about the possibility of him getting injured if he was playing for us so would insist that part of the deal is we dont risk him this season.

Perhaps it will be like the Spurs deal for Mills when we get someone of Jamie Slabbers calibre from Evertons youth as part of the deal.

This is bad, bad, bad all round  :evil:

yeah i have to say it wasn't convincing at all was it?

Well, we've got Everton at home this summer pending this transfer (probably)

I'm sure Everton will use their best endevours to send an XI down whilst the 1st team are off in the far east (or wherever)

Oh christ, don't say that. The deal probably says "we will use our best endeavours to pay the fee of £x".

His mum seemed to hurry him away a bit sharpish.

Fuck sake can our squad get any smaller,i presume we still havent signed anyone on loan yet either that figures or are we going to get someone from everton in exchange from everton ill hold my breath,our board are a class act arent they .I swear this board dont want to get promoted they seem hell bent  on makeing sure we  dont succeed this season. :evil:

Oh and his missus looked quite the fitty.

IF we get a good price £1million + guarenteed add ons, perhaps we could consider selling him.
I believe he has the potential to be a good player at this level with the right coaching and experience too improve his reading of the game. He is strong and powerful, but will never be a relatively good premiership player as he lacks the pace required.

Now I have said this, watch him go to Everton and score sack load before departing for Chelsea :wink:

Shortsighted
Short termist
Suicidal
Shite

Why do we bother  :evil:
Would not suprise me if PS goes as well blows a big hole in his plans for future seasons and shows the laughable 5yr plan to be the total load of bollocks it is.

Please get a couple of thosand protesting - if not for the takeover then the future of our club which is being destroyed  :fu:

I think we're well past that stage now :?

Not happy i take it!

Don't know who if anyone could be used as a part-exchange.

What we heard on Tuesday night....

"On a side note.

Paul Sturrock was also there today with some lad from Swindon who is 17, Davey Moyes and some agents after the game the lad was in the process of signing for us."

"I am not too sure mate, he was definatly in the process of signing though.

They where in the players restaurant by the changing rooms with about 4 agents, Moyes and Sturrock. Sturrock left the table saying the deal is all done & dusted and that the lad is delighted as he had been really nervous for a couple of days worrying incase anything whent wrong.

The lad was a dark haired lad and he did look quite big for a 17 year old."

Any idea on the exact terms everton chris?

Not happy.

The other day a 60something year old man was telling me he used to watch Swindon years ago, when Mike Summerbee and Ernie Hunt used to play. He said he stopped watching when the club showed such a lack of ambition in selling Summerbee to Manchester City. Some things never change.

Can we have McFadden please :mrgreen:

Haven't heard a thing mate. Will try to speak to a few people, if i hear anything i'll make sure you know.

It'll probably be down as an undisclosed fee but i've no doubt that the price will be revealed somehow.

Sure.

Can have Beattie and Anichebe aswell. Both shite.

If lucas goes does that mean Bartek wont be back??? :cry:

What a complete bunch of cunting fucking arse.

Wankers.

To whoever asked - Phil Cannon is our Head of Recruitment for the academy.

Tony Fawthrop, ex-Bristol City, joined our staff in September as a south-west scout. He probably had something to do with it.

to be honest he's always been a bit sheepish when approached by people!

Who was the older bald fella who came to watch Lucas with Sheedy when we played Newcastle in th fa yoof cup evrton chris? Any idea?

Millom

same old.

and I doubt it would've done his big move any favours if he'd blurted out to those behind the Arkells - yeah, I'm signing for Everton lads.

Successful clubs don't sell their best players.

Ambitious clubs don't sell 17 year olds whose value will only appreciate, and score goals in the interim.

Successful clubs don't have boards with the foresight of ours.

If we'd managed the debt, paid the CVA, we wouldn't be selling. Diamandis, Bowden, Holt, Starnes, whoever....if you have any sense of satisfaction whatsoever in this deal you are not the right people to be running this football club. Muppets.

 If you think Anichibe is shite, you'll not be too impressed with Lukas.  He first came to my attention a couple of years ago in the reserves, and looked a useful lad, having watched closely this season, I' ve said he looks to have the potential to be a decent lower league striker and no more.

Ray Hall? http://www.evertonfc.com/assets/_files/images/imported/1116493917.jpg

I doubt you'd even think that about Victor. How he's even near the first team is beyond me.

The more i think about it, I reckon Lukas might be an academy signing - but then why was Moyes sorting the deal out  :?

Same old shit with this club/board.......Lukas is a real prospect and at only 17, can only go on to improve a hell of a lot further.
He's looked really good when playing in the senior side, and he's a class above the rest when playing for the Youths.
Such a nice person as well, so i wish him well.

And in reply to what someone else said, he will still be able to play for us for the rest of the season as the transfer window isnt open.

please don't jump on Sturrock's back because of your inability to read you fat mess.  :roll:

 In some ways I feel a bit sorry for the boy....thinking back to  Paul Rideout, who Everton fans will fondly recall, it was obvious he was going to be a player, but he had a couple of seasons playing in Div3/4, scoring some goals and learning his trade, before moving at 19 to Villa.

 So when he arrived it wasn't too much of a step up....

 Lukas wil probably just go the same way as the Mills's and Collins's.......never making the first team not learning their trade.

What's happened to Leigh Mills anyway? Not really lived up to the hype at Spurs?

Shouldn't have turned us down..

Can't really disagree with this. Lukas is nowhere near being a proven player, even in this league. If a substantial fee was/is offered it would only be realistic to accept it. Selling youth players is always a gamble, but the club is not in a position take such a gamble. It just angers me that it is this board who have done this deal so god knows what we will get out of it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2007/03/15/stfc_150307_feature.shtml

he's doing nothing....the way Spurs are defending though! might get a game soon!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2007/03/15/stfc_150307_feature.shtml

I think back to when caton was being hailed as the next big thing and look at all the bad luck he has had.

Yes it would be great to keep him and watch him grow but i'd take five hundred grand and a decent sell on clause any day of the week. we are a small club and cannot afford to take a gamble on him. we should be happy that we have him to sell.

I would be happier if the board now announced that a good fraction of the CVA (i.e. not just the outstanding 100grand) can be paid off with this windfall.  I suspect however, it will all go on something else - possibly a big stack of plates for smashing, some ouzo and some shoes with them curled up toes.

I forgot about Caton. He's a real prospect too and it is a shame about the injuries he's sustained.
Hopefully Caton will be back to his best (If not better) for the start of next season.

caton will be gone in the summer..

he'll be the only cunt left next season at this rate.

Caton's progress has been hindered far too much by injuries, it's too late for him. Shame as he had real potential.

Lukas' career will end up the same at Everton. FACT!

we have been (un)reliably informed that this is now paid gent

I personally don't mind us selling him. It just riles me that he was solely flogged to pay off a CVA this board had 5 years to budget for and pay. The vast percentage of money from player sales should go back on the squad, but we all know this won't. And that is what makes me fucking livid.

Likewise DB, LIKEWISE

grrrrrrrrrr. peoples attitude for this is pissing me off. We need money to pay the fucking CVA. If this move means we still have a club to support next season, then im all for it. If it doesn't, there WILL be hell to pay.

Any team in the bottom two divisions offered 500k+ for a largely unproven 17 year old would accept it without a second thought. Why should we be any different? Were swindon town, not man fucking united

Fuck me Dave you need to wake up kid, this board will take all the cash with them.

the cva that they should have been able to pay anyway?
the cva bill power could have already paid?

This is exactly what Yeovil means, the board get away with it because the fans accept it......oh yes we can now pay the cva hooray for the board...who should have fucking paid it anyway!

We're not man fucking united, but we arent a piss poor tinpot two thousand fans a week division 4 no hopers. We are Swindon Town and we're fucking better than that.....

and the money from the playoffs

and the money from the season ticket sales (after hiking up the prices following our promotion)

Only then will they take the consortium's offer and flee with the money leaving the CVA as a landmine

Thats my opinion

My post wasn't meant to be a pro-board propaganda hunt. It was more to say that, admittidley due to the board, we are up shit creek, and we need to get out of it any way possible.

I DO want the board out, and i DO  want the consortium in. But in all honesty, id rather have a club next season with this board in charge than none at all.

I don't think that those two are compatible to be honest.

Even thoug we were assured they could pay it anyway?

A.   It was never taken that way Dave.

B.   I would forsake another season in this god-forsaken division if the consortium had wrestled control away from the jokers and liars in charge at the moment

Indeed and well said.

At least I could go and watch some home games.

actually, having said that earlier, that news doesn't actually make me happy.  others on here are right, they said they could pay it anyway, when it seemed unlikely, and now this has landed in their lap and got them off the hook.

oh, and its genf, with an 'f' !

if selling lukas gives us enough cash to sign, say, leon best, then it's a bloody good deal.

we can't afford to gamble on potential, we're sat on oblivion's door step and need players that can do it now, not in 2 or 3 years time!

having said that, i am gutted that we're selling him!

Rich clubs ruining football. Buying up these players to play reserve games for the next 5 years, maybe the odd 3 month loan.

Its goes all the way up. Sean Wright Philips would have been a big player for England in Germany 06 if he hadnt signed up to playing for Chelsea reserves for the next few years.

Obviously pleased for Lukas, because he is a cracking lad. Always battled hard for the Swindon shirt. Gutted to see him leave.

It just seems that the amount of time players spend at the club gets shorter and shorter. We cant keep anyone half decent unless they are 32+. Made me laugh that Andy Monkhouse thought he'd get a decent reception back here. He played for us for 3 months, not even near enough to endear him to the fans. Its getting so bad for mercenary footballers at Swindon. I can rarely recall having less affection for a set of players who are in the top half of the league.

Hopefully the board will realise this is probably the last asset they can strip of STFC and leave.

Sounds a good deal to me. He always strikes me as shit, but then I've never seen him play for the youth team.

Wise words me old son. Sadly, the heart and soul has been ripped out of Swindon Town in particular and football in general. And guess what? There's sweet Fanny Adams we can do about it :suicide:

Fuck a stoat!! That's fantastic business!!

Nice one Lukas - and best of luck to you fella.

It's really REALLY NOT a 'good' deal for us. Our club is in a very poor state right now. No one should be thinking this is a good deal right now :?

Do you mean that Mark?

I remember Kerslake' sale causing much unrest and anti board feeling, and that was back in the day of chasing the Premiership dream. I fully understand the "it's a lot of money and it's a good deal for the club" angle, but it does go to show how far we have fallen that we now debate this sale in the bottom division.

It is a good deal. We seem to be forgetting that we are in the third division and need all the money we can get.

FFS for me its not about how much money we have got out of this deal,everton have been chasing him for 4 years and a hell of alot of prem teams have made enquiries about him this year so we were allways going to get a good sum for him.

For me its what the board do with this money that matters.I really hope they see this as a last chance to cash in then fuck off out of the club.If they do this then it would of been worth selling him

Agreed 100% Deano

What makes you all so sure any new board would be so much better than the one we have now?

WHAT THE FUCK ???????   :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Nothing its just a guess really....or i could refer you to this thread.

http://www.thetownend.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19062&highlight=

Could it get any worse?

why didn't we get an everton striker to come on loan till the end of the season as part of the deal?

Someone change Reeves for King's username to Wind up Merchant. It would be far better suited.

I dont think thats out the question yet only problem i would see with that is we still actually have him til the end of the season..I wouldnt rule it out though its very strange that it was sturrock who went to the meeting with lukas and moyes im sure he would of at least asked.

OK I suppose the board must be better than the one we've got now. But how much better? We're still likely to be kept in the dark about what goes on, still have no money and still have very little say due solely to the fact that we would only put up a fraction of the capital.

I'm not saying the takeover's not a bad idea in principle but we still need to be a bit cautious.

how about the coinsortiums links with the trust, a fans representative, teh openess from Bill Power.

I use to think like you then I went along and listened to tehse investors and guess what they aint that bad!

There will be a fan's representative on the board so there would definitely be more transparency. Obviously, as fans we will never know 100% of what goes on behind the scenes but I've no doubt that we will have greater knowledge and understanding of how the club is run under the guidance of the Fan's Consortium.



That would be true regardless unless Mr Abramovich decided that Chelsea was too easy and fancied a real challenge. Unless the ground is redeveloped, we will not be a 'rich' club by any means.

I would just like to know what Power and Emmel want from the club - I've heard nothing from them - would they tell the fans where the money went, was it a loan or shares they put into the club, and most importantly - why do they want to put money in?

Mike Wilks said at the open meeting at the Moonrakers pub last year that Bill Power was overwhelmed by the number of get well soon cards following the plane crash. About 1/3 were from QPR fans and 2/3 from Swindon if I remember correctly.

Phil Emmel at the last Trust meeting was a very open bloke, people asked him questions and he spoke to many people one to one. He seemed passionate about making our team a success.

In short, things seem genuine.

On the shares/loan thing - I think the argument is that the club argue that the investment was in shares despite the fact that BP and PE have stated they have not signed any shares. So they view it as a loan.

More to the point, the last annual return shows that BP and PE's shareholding is only 23%, despite the club insisting it is 33%. Either way the club has lied about this, or at least made publicly, incorrect statements regarding the issue and on several occassions.

Suggest you read the interviews Bill Power did with the Adver last month. Or the widely posted letter from Bill Power to Trust members. Or the minutes of the meeting (or may other write-ups on this and other forums) Phil Emmel attended to explain to Trust members and fans who bothered to come and find out where he and Bill were coming from. Not so much "heard nothing from them" which implies that Bill and Phil haven't bothered to communicate with fans - they have - just you haven't seen it. Unless of course you're expecting a personal phone call, in which case it's a perfectly valid point.

Thats him Chris...cheers mate.
Fred...ring any bells? He was sat a couple of rows back from us.

Thats him mate

Were you banned , or is it a self imposed exile then ?

He was banned for the Darlo game. Out of principle he's not attending until the shysters have left

And why are we still in this poor state the board thats why no money sense at all.

But 750K plus for a player who's only played in a handful of games is a great deal for us?  It's bloody more than we got for Parkin...

Would be a great deal with the correct people in charge as the money would be re-invested in the squad but unfortunately we know quite probably half a million will disapear I will let you make your own assumptions on where its going  :evil:

Are you completely mental?

It has been mooted.

I personally think this is great for us.

He's only a kid yes but if Lukas isn't committed then he should be allowed to leave, fair play to him and what a great oppurtunity.

FWIW I don't think he'll make it at that level for 2 reasons. Firstly is his awareness but to be fair that will come in time, more importantly for a big lad he's soft on the ball and easily knocked off, coupled with the fact he has no pace (which they say you need to go to the top) means he's not very mobile and a good centre half can control him.

I don't want to sound like I have a downer on LJ because I don't, however for me I think this is the best deal for all parties.

apart from the no pace bit, no.....just no.....

Meh, just never really understood the hype with him. He'll certainly be a better player than this effing league but I don't see anything particularly outstanding about his game.

Hello Dave are you out tomorrow or are you frightened the old bill and bouncers will get you?

I feel it's a good idea to sell him, as he could turn out to be shit. Conversely if he's good then we might get a lot of money from any sell on clause. And think of all the players we could get from the money that are decent at this level.

However, I am slightly disappointed with the money we have gained which has been suggested at a maximum of £1m. If he really has that much potential then perhaps a little more would have been expected.

You sir are fucking nuts if you think we will buy anyone out of this cash

Read the operative word: Could

Cardiff tomorrow with a couple of lads from work.

Don't see what the bouncers have to do with last week?

You sir, are a cock.

I see on Evertons website, if you hover over where it says "striker deal confirmed" it comes up with a picture of Michael Pook! Shows what they know about their latest signing...

oh pleaaase god

Oh dear lord

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/sam_stfc/everton.jpg

Ahahahahahahahahaha. May Everton FC be blessed with the shiteness of Michael Pook.

Pook WISHES!!!!

I (and many others) wish too.

Indeed.

P.S. Just listening to the phone in.

Holt = Not a very nice fellow  :x

The one thing that puzzles me with all of this (talking about Holt & co not LJ), how come the board haven't tried a charm offensive.  Personally I think on occasions we may have been a little extreme (got a little too personal at times) and yet the board seem to love playing this master of the slave role.  

Bob Holt surely should be playing the nice guy, this fans consortium supporters are upsetting the club, we're just trying to gain promotion etc.  But no as soon as there is an attempt to discuss things, no matter what it's about Mr defensive come out to play and starts being aloof and rude (imo).

Sorry for going off subject.


Ha ha ha everton website etc.

Cheers for pointing that out.

The Official Website are ridiculous. We have a lad named Anderson Silva de Franca, when they did an article on him once they put up a picture of Sonny Anderson. :shock:

Sam, why the fuck are you using IE?

I don't like Firefox.

Fuck off mate you're not welcome here.







Only kidding.  Keep us in touch on how Lucas does for you, be interesting to see how he gets on.  I quite like Everton, one of the premiership teams I don;t mind.

Everton is definitely the better half of Merseyside IMO.

Although, I fucking hate Phil Neville with a passion.

Fair enough. Phil's shite.

You sound just as badly run as us.

Ahahahahaha. You're joking right.

Fuck off!

At least you're not selling your fucking soul to Tesco.

nope, it got sold to dunwoody years ago  :cry:

You wont know the ins and outs of our club, as I'm sure we dont know yours....but I would be very surprised if your club was as badly run as ours...

We don't have a soul anymore.

There is no soul!

I've heard some shocking things about EFC lately.

"The more you know the less you like" i'm always told. Same apply to STFC?

Most definately. And then some..

The same also applies to Sussex Red

Too right I do. That amount of money for a club in our financial situation, in this division, for a promising youngster is an outsanding piece of business. If we were in the Championship and pushing for promotion I would be kicking off. The simple fact is we are struggling to get out of the basment division and have a CVA to settle. Take the money and run - screw sentiment.

....selling our best players will really help us get out of the basement division wont it?

as for the CVA....the board should have sorted that by now anyway, werent we told before the AGM talks were at an 'advanced stage' with a potential investor....NOTHING.

Its Diamandis job to bring money into the club and so far he has done it in two ways. Getting Wills to cough up some cash and to flog our best players.

Yes we need money, I get that much....but WHY do we need the money....shouldnt it have been sorted...isnt that the boards job?

I tell you, if we actually owned our stadium and that got sold off from under our noses there would be outcry of the highest order.

Think what you like, but we're being assest stripped all the time...good job this lot in charge dont have a stadium to sell because by now you coulod guarntee if they did there would be some nice houses on the CG by now.

By selling Lukas we are making the TEAM worse...and none of the money will go towards making the TEAM better.

Maybe you like 4th division football and want to stay here for ever?

Its a fucking joke and I cant believe you're accepting all this.....was selling Shearer, Fjortoft, Parkin, Fallon etc good business? We sold decent players and generally bought no replacement and in the latter 3 cases we went down as soon as they left!

....but.....hey, who cares about the football right....we've got some money coming in that we will never ever see again and will disapear into the blackhole that is STFC and probably wont go to Sturrock, debts or the CVA....yey lets all have a party  :beers:

going nowhere

JaanAage looks alot like  like Steve McManaman.....As an everton fan you might take exception to this!

:soapy tit wank:

:thumbs: DV85's post ^^^^

Spot On! i love the way people say it's good business for the Club as if we're actually going to get some money put back into the transfer fund....are we fuck!

according to today's observer, the deal will be worth £1.5million.

i can only assume that the last £500k comes when lucas bangs in a perfect hat-trick in the world cup final.

Probably the last £1m will! The board probably thought "Ooh yeh Paul Sturrock says this lad is good and a PRemiership club wants him - let's sell now for, I don't know, a few bob and let them pay the rest when he gets great. If they did it to Rooney they're bound to do it with Lukas"

Stupid board

=(

 :soapy tit wank:

In an ideal world we'd still be in the Premiership and have gates equalling or bettering our expenditure. Simple fact is we're not. We're in the basement division and are staring at a massive financial blackhole and no end to tha takeover situation in sight. Of course I'm not happy kissing goodbye to our best players but all the time I've been a Town fan we've been forced to sell a major asset every year or two and all the time we're being offered a kings ransom for a 17 year old kid we will take it. Tell me a club in this division who wouldn't do the same? Who know's what's round the corner regarding Lukas and his future. He's certainly got enormous potential but anything could happen to the lad and we're not in a position to gamble with that kind of cash.

That deal was also in the Sunday.Mirror.

show me the money