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Im ashamed to be a town fan.

If you were singing "we want kingy out"  after the first and second goal then your a prick.

Ive never been so angry in my life, infact i lost it a bit at one point and offered out the Townend 8)

Im off to the pub!

It was very loud before the first goal but didn't hear it. I can't say I feel any different about King after today but calling for his head after we score is a bit daft to say the least.

i started the andy kings barmy army chant and got threatened by 2 guys. i didn't say or do anything to offend them, just supporting the team in my opinion. but you know i wasn't surprised.

These are the pricks king was talking about, I think he has a point.

3-0 up and being depressed about king being in charge and winning is not on!
you know it is stupid.

Some people are twats, but until we start beating these teams consistently, the twats will remain. :cry:

I have never seen people so disappointed with a 3-0 win in my life.
Me, Johno and the formerly known Duff_Red chanted Kings Barmy Army at 1-0 and about 8-9 people joined in. The we got booed.
Then the second went in and we sang it again and were still going when the third went in.

Then we were booed by more and more people and some were even threatening us and others around us.

People chant KING OUT and expect people to listen to them, and boo when we voice our opinion. That is disgraceful.

Also make a note of the fact that the KING OUT chant started when Igoe should have shot but passed it straight to a defender. HOW IS THAT KING'S FAULT?!

ANDY KING'S BARMY ARMY

I bet some of these cunts were hoping we'd lose just so they could do there fucking stupid protests. They're all wankers they should be the ones getting booed. It's lucky for them that I wasn't there 'cos I'd probably have punched a few of them.:box

Well said Ben

thats what i was saying. there were town fans by us gutted that we were winning. and they chanted 'loyal supporters' my arse are they loyal!
don't matter how many away games they go to and think they're special because of it, if they want stfc to lose, they're not a swindon town supporter

Perhaps they think a defeat in the short term will have greater long term benefits

so they prefer us to lose? thats the simple conclusion and its not right. King and the board have basically said he isn't going. so get behind him.

i like how when we were chanting 'andy kings barmy army' we scored three  :beers

Perhaps they do but they are wrong. I cannot understand anyone who would want the club they support to lose under any circumstances. Anyone who is more concerned about King leaving than whether we do well is a fool. Johno was spot on when he said if they want stfc to lose, they're not a swindon town supporter.

It's unbelievable that we can score three goals in three minutes and they still only care about their king out chants.

Course I was supporting the team yesterday. But it has to be said King was lucky to come across a team cut adrift at the bottom of the table at this time (still managed to come back from 3 down against us though  :( ).

I never had any intention of singing for Kings head unless we went 2 behind. But I was going to protest at anything less than a win. The King out chants did make me cringe. King is right that there is a hardcore 5 per cent who have always hated him. But he cant use that to explain the fans who turned on him at Southend.

King still needs to go before the end of the season. I viewed yesterday as another 3 points towards safety in case we go into another Kingy meltdown special of 7 or 8 losses on the trot.

King had his chance to show that he was worthy of another season, but he blew it. Time for change.

ANDY KING WANK WANK WANK



I am bitterly disappointed to see that this chant has not re-emerged, now we are stepping up our protests against that bald scouse in charge.  I reckon we should also find out where his mum sits and barrage her with abuse also to force him out....



Seriously...  I think both sides are wrong in this instance.  Some fans like Reeves4England, Johno etc. are satisfied with King and will probably have valid reasons for it.  There are a host of reasons for supporting King, and he is a likeable guy and does give interesting, funny and passionate post-match interviews which I appreciate.  However, to call other fans idiots because they are against King is well wide of the mark.

The memory of Autumn 2002/03 is still a bitter one, and was really when I first started attending games.  This was before I could drive, so each game was a slog to get to, either getting a lift from my parents or a 4.5 hour train journey each way.  Travelling for so long to watch performances such as that against Oldham at home, and the eventual turn around against Mansfield 2-1, which was still a dire performance, are bitter memories in my mind.  He will never be forgiven for that, but last season does go a long way to making up for it.

There are also a host of reasons for not supporting King, and every fan is entitled to their opinion.  I firmly believe we are seriously underachieving this season, and I'm not going to be satisfied whatever the outcome.  Last season we occassionally threatened the automatic promotion places, albeit a very weak threat, this season we are more of a threat to saving Wrexham from relegation.

Personally, my patience with King is growing thin.  I think what he has done for the club has been tremendous, and for that he is a near-legend.  He is the only manager who I have watched football under, so maybe I am not qualified to speak on the matter, but having spent so much money to watch so many crap performances I feel I am.  I hate the cliche "he's taken us as far as he can" as that isn't true, but we're underperforming this season, and were we a more ambitious club such as Sheffield Wednesday or Bristol City (a club very similar to our own), King would have been long gone.

I'm fed up with King because he's had a fair crack at the whip (he's one of the top 15 longest serving managers in the country at one club apparantly) and we're still in this crap league.

he's not scouse

He once played for Everton - that's bad enough for me!   :P

Dave - didn't realise about the top 15 business, but I assume with it being such a voilatile job its not surprising.  He has been given his fair share of chances, and the threat of him sueing for unfair dismissal is surely an empty one.  If he went, I'd feel sorry for him as I do like his post-match interviews, (e.g.:  He went down more than my missus) but at the end of the day, if it is what it takes to get us out of this division, then so be it.  I am very interested to see how our talented squad would fair under a change of management.  The squad is somewhat improved since the days of Coppell's help.

25 Longest Serving Managers

1. Dario Gradi - 22 Seasons                
2. Sir Alex Ferguson - 19
3. Alan Curbishley - 14
4. Barry Fry - 9
5. Arsene Wenger
6. Ronnie Moore - 8
7. Sam Allardyce - 6
8. Neil Warnock
9. Sean O'Driscoll - 5
10. Nigel Worthington
11. Ian Holloway - 4
12. Kevin Keegan
13. Steve McClaren
14. Paul Jewell
15. Gary Johnson
16. Denis Smith
17. Steve Bruce
18. Andy King
19. Dave Penney
20. Lennie Lawrence - 3
21. David Moyes
22. Keith Alexander
23. Leroy Rosenior
24. Ray Lewington
25. Peter Taylor

http://www.leaguemanagers.com/manager/longest-current.html

dario gradi, hes a legend, hes done a fantastic job at crewe all things considered. not got a huge budget but they just keep pluggin away

I read that Ronnie Moore will be leaving Rotherham at the end of the season, he's done fairly well there...

yes his contract runs out and they can't settle a severence package so he's there to the end of the season

Rotherham have got new owners who don't see Moore as part of their plans. He's done a fantastic job there.

when have i called people idiots for there opinions, i have been saying i respect peoples opinions, but when like in the town end yesterday, people have a go at you for it, why shouldn't you have a go back!?

In fairness Johno, you are not as guilty as some but:

"3-0 up and being depressed about king being in charge and winning is not on!
you know it is stupid."

You know there is more to a season than a 3-0 victory over a very poor, bottom of the table side.

but not being happy about being 3-0 up is stupid! how is that a good thing?

Because it may have saved the job of a man who won't get us out of this Division

To be honest, the context of it is irrelevent - for anyone to threaten and boo a bunch of young lads for supporting their team is fucking stupid. Booing your own manager when your team is 3-0 up is equally stupid, even though I do agree with you.

but then again you have to admit, that if the town end had roared "andy kings barmy army" at 3-0 everyone would be on here saying "aaah everyone's so fickle"

yeh very true, it is good that people still stuck with their opinions

my main complaint was that people just couldn't accept being wrong. it was really immature and stupid.

yes but are they wrong? like someone said, 3-0 at home against the league's best not side does not prove king is the right man for the job

i know that.... but as they threatened me cause i liked king, i didn't care about what they thought... why should i?

also.... they couldn't accept others opinions and had to result to violence like people in the town end generally do....

Its interesting that you should mention Shitty, because they must be at least 2 points better off than us, having again spent a fair bit in the summer and early season, having replaced the manager for the cheap internal appointment because some fans got on the back of Wilson.

 They also get crowds of upwards of twice our gate and spend a mill a season on youth development, compared to our 20K.

 Some say we underachieve, but in reality we continue to overachieve......nevertheless, King's rant against the fans at Sarfend was a serious misjudgement, and in my eyes a hanging offence....OK putting Reeeeeves in may result in a rapid deterioration of our status, but sometimes these things have to happen.

No matter what the fans say, the manager should not be coming out and saying the things he has against them.  Fans are what make a club breathe, without the "minority" that King doesn't care about he would be out of a job, along with all the players all the backroom staff and all the people who help run the club.  As they'd be no club.

johno can you stop harping on about being threatened. we all know you did and we all know it shouldnt have happened. the issue here is why is or why isnt king the right man for the job?

johno in one post you said "i dont care about what they thought" and then the next one "they cant accept other people's opinions" a bit hypocritical if you ask me

the boo boys have as much right to sing we want kingy out as you have to sing andy kings barmy army, so no one's opinion can ever be"right"

Mine is always right :wink:

Do you mean right as in the opposite of left?

Isn't Johno just saying that while he doesn't care what other peoples opinions are, he is quite prepared to understand that they do have those opinions.  The idiots in the town end that turned on him for his opinions actively care that his opinions differ from theirs, and try to intimidate him into thinking the same - thats just bloody childish.

I'm fed up with King, but when it comes to match day and i'm in the stands i choose to get behind him, because he is the man in charge, and deserves support.  I didn't chant King Out, but I did sing 'Andy King's Barmy Army'.

Just support the team when at the games, positive atmosphere makes a positive difference on the pitch.

I hate the "barmy army" songs.  Much prefer the "red and white army" chant.

Getting back to the origal thread, never be ashamed to be a town fan !(poor choice of words Yeovil?) It's fine to be annoyed by twats you stand near but how can you be ashamed to be a town fan, surely 100 league goals conceeded in a season etc etc and dropping 2 divisions in a row is a little bit more to be ashamed of?! You are a town fan, as are all of us (nearly Oxfordfan) if you cant keep faith in the manager thaen at least keep it in the badge.

I'm not ashamed of conceding 100 goals. That was a fucking great season, probably my favourite ever watching the club. 30 points is nothing to be ashamed of, it's something to be proud of just getting to the premiership.

90-95  Simply the best footie years I have ever experienced first hand at STFC.  Including the "100" in the Against column.

I was furious when "We want kingy out" started at 0-0. whats the fucking point, we've been there before and it affects the players.

I'm not kingys biggest fan either and can understand why people want him out, but to start that at 0-0 when we wernt playing THAT badly (in the context of notts C and Saffend) was just fucking stupid.

agreed

On the bright side least it's given us something to talk about today.  The complex make up of the fan base of Swindon Town Football club.

I dont wear make up at all, let alone complex stuff.

I always knew you were a tranny Jan. :P  :D

yeh dex you got those quotes from two different responses about different things. i said i didn't care about there opinions, when they had a go at me, but i do accept what peoples opinions are when they talk about it properly. so don't go mixing up what i said.

Kinky tom knows what im getting at.

calm down girls...can't you just share make-up advice with jan?

yeh...... depends how much make up? better be alot!  :x  :soapy tit wank:

i heard it's quite complex

seriously? thats all i need. oh well.... any make up recommended? im quite worry about myself now wanting make up!  :oops:

whatever you do, don't get advice off stfcbird!

yeh fair enough, think im going to go and get help about wanting make up!  :wink:

I'm sure Duffers will give you some tips!
Bitchy!

true...very true!

hehe. Cruel.