Title: doherty arrested again Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, December 19, 2005, 09:32:10 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4540900.stm
twice in one month. nice. anyone think doherty will still be alive by 2010? Title: doherty arrested again Post by: pauld on Monday, December 19, 2005, 10:07:07 2010? Ladbrokes aren't taking bets on 2006!
Title: Re: doherty arrested again Post by: Spud on Monday, December 19, 2005, 12:49:39 Quote from: "sonicyouth" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4540900.stm twice in one month. nice. anyone think doherty will still be alive by 2010? Lets hope not! 8) Title: doherty arrested again Post by: yeo on Monday, December 19, 2005, 13:30:39 I reckon he'll be presenting Country file with John Craven.
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: oxford_fan on Monday, December 19, 2005, 14:04:24 http://www.nme.com/news/babyshambles/21793
noticeable that at the end of the article it says no action is being taken for the previous arrest in shrewsbury, which a massive fuss was made over. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: littleXdave on Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:08:17 He's a fucking waste of space, tosser!
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Elsterap on Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:26:44 Why is he hated so much?
What happened to views of, "Its all rock and roll"? Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Bennett on Monday, December 19, 2005, 19:30:17 Quote from: "Elsterap" Why is he hated so much? What happened to views of, "Its all rock and roll"? heroin dependency is absolutely retarded, this overtakes any kind of rock n roll leniency we might give him. the fact he revels in it is so disgusting, and the fact that he's news because he's a fucking junky is even more depressing Title: doherty arrested again Post by: oxford_fan on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 19:23:13 Quote from: "bennett" Quote from: "Elsterap" Why is he hated so much? What happened to views of, "Its all rock and roll"? heroin dependency is absolutely retarded, this overtakes any kind of rock n roll leniency we might give him. the fact he revels in it is so disgusting, and the fact that he's news because he's a fucking junky is even more depressing Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 19:29:00 I actually think Doherty's alright. I've heard a number of interviews with him and he comes across as a genuinely decent bloke who has a lot of problems. I don't think he's the man that some sections of the media portray and I don't think he's revelling in his addiction, far from it.
He is a fairly talented musician/songwriter although the babyshambles album only has a couple of really great songs. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Bennett on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 20:05:15 Quote from: "oxford_fan" Quote from: "bennett" Quote from: "Elsterap" Why is he hated so much? What happened to views of, "Its all rock and roll"? heroin dependency is absolutely retarded, this overtakes any kind of rock n roll leniency we might give him. the fact he revels in it is so disgusting, and the fact that he's news because he's a fucking junky is even more depressing the fact that instead of running away going"oh fucking hell i can't have my picture taken skagged out of my tree" he saunters along thinking he's the fucking don cos he takes STUPID, STUPID DRUGS. he does gigs clearly off his tits, and seems to spend alot of the time affected by drugs...if he really didn't want anyone to see him as he is or promote it, he surely has the clout to hide away Title: doherty arrested again Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 20:15:18 gigging when he's off his face and clearly unable to perform is just ripping off your own fans. for that he truly is a fucktard.
the sad thing is these same fans don't care. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Bennett on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 20:17:06 when i was a lad meatloaf would never have done anything like that. the worst might've been a few crumbs on his lapels but nothing worse.
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 20:28:51 Quote from: "bennett" when i was a lad meatloaf would never have done anything like that. the worst might've been a few crumbs on his lapels but nothing worse. You like Meatloaf! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 20:45:53 Quote from: "sonicyouth" gigging when he's off his face and clearly unable to perform is just ripping off your own fans. for that he truly is a fucktard. the sad thing is these same fans don't care. True but you kind of know what to expect when you go and see him. I guess some of them go to see that. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: oxford_fan on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 21:19:16 Quote from: "bennett" Quote from: "oxford_fan" Quote from: "bennett" Quote from: "Elsterap" Why is he hated so much? What happened to views of, "Its all rock and roll"? heroin dependency is absolutely retarded, this overtakes any kind of rock n roll leniency we might give him. the fact he revels in it is so disgusting, and the fact that he's news because he's a fucking junky is even more depressing the fact that instead of running away going"oh fucking hell i can't have my picture taken skagged out of my tree" he saunters along thinking he's the fucking don cos he takes STUPID, STUPID DRUGS. he does gigs clearly off his tits, and seems to spend alot of the time affected by drugs...if he really didn't want anyone to see him as he is or promote it, he surely has the clout to hide away why would he not want people to see him? he's in a successful band making a living. if he wanted to really flaunt it he could, i don't remember ever seeing "EXCLUSIVE DOHERTY INTERVIEW" on many magazine/newspaper covers, all of the stories are about him not on him, if you see what i mean. blame journalists for your issues with him, bennett. as far as i'm concerned you can do whatever the fuck you want in life as long as it doesn't affect other people. if you're so gullible that you're willing to line a drug addicts pockets or so stupid that you want to imitate him, then tough. i'm more concerned by how easily affected some people are by what others do. they seem to be missing the number of required braincells for indipendent thought. at least that's one thing doherty can do. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 21:45:12 I just dont like the fact he turns up to gigs of his head. Live 8 for example. Did he actually know he was meant to be performing?!
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 21:57:01 To be honest I'd rather see Doherty smacked up to the eyeballs on yellow bentines than listen to that paedo robbie williams or some of the other stuff at live 8.
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: oxford_fan on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 22:03:02 Quote from: "reeves4england" I just dont like the fact he turns up to gigs of his head. that also rules out more or less all of the best musicians of the 21st century thenTitle: doherty arrested again Post by: Bennett on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 22:40:45 my issues with him is that he's a fucking skag head.
are you saying skag is cool? are skag heads actually people? Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Elsterap on Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 22:47:35 Quote from: "bennett" my issues with him is that he's a fucking skag head. :roll: But so are loads of other people - its just publicised less. You dont see people saying Robbie is a twat cos he does drugs. Quote are you saying skag is cool? are skag heads actually people? No-one said that :roll: and stop getting so wound up. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 00:00:43 Quote from: "Elsterap" Quote from: "bennett" my issues with him is that he's a fucking skag head. You dont see people saying Robbie is a twat cos he does drugs. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 00:01:47 you know what disturbs me? that people look up to pete doherty and aspire to be him. that's terrifying.
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: yeo on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 00:39:21 Fuck off smoker...
Your on the road to ruin just like Pete. He was the same as you ,started out doing the QPR fanzine,then fags ,the Dope, Heroin and finally Crack. Thats the way your going mate so get off your high horse :D Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Elsterap on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 00:51:08 soapy tit wank Yeovil :soapy tit wank:
Quote from: "sonicyouth" you know what disturbs me? that people look up to pete doherty and aspire to be him. that's terrifying. Once again been commonplace for ages right? Pete Doherty has a major fashion label, Gio-Goi, making its comeback with him, proving people must look up to him. Gio-Goi always went for people who were known to do drugs though. Infact in the 90’s Gio-Goi was as much a part of the Acid House scene as Hacienda and Stone Roses. I'm not a crackhead or trying to make out that im a druggie btw :? Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 00:54:22 He's clearly playing up to the hype
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 00:56:33 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" Fuck off smoker... only thing i've ever been addicted to is quake2 :PYour on the road to ruin just like Pete. He was the same as you ,started out doing the QPR fanzine,then fags ,the Dope, Heroin and finally Crack. Thats the way your going mate so get off your high horse :D Title: doherty arrested again Post by: yeo on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 00:57:18 Quote from: "sonicyouth" Quote from: "Yeovil Red" Fuck off smoker... only thing i've ever been addicted to is quake2 :PYour on the road to ruin just like Pete. He was the same as you ,started out doing the QPR fanzine,then fags ,the Dope, Heroin and finally Crack. Thats the way your going mate so get off your high horse :D Fags ,World of Warcraft and of course TEF :D Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 00:58:54 Quote from: "sonicyouth" Quote from: "Yeovil Red" Fuck off smoker... only thing i've ever been addicted to is quake2 :PYour on the road to ruin just like Pete. He was the same as you ,started out doing the QPR fanzine,then fags ,the Dope, Heroin and finally Crack. Thats the way your going mate so get off your high horse :D Title: doherty arrested again Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 01:01:19 i'm blatantly not addicted to nicotine. i haven't smoked today.
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 01:04:15 I bet you smoked some cock you fag
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: STFC Village on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 01:10:34 Simon has an addiction to alcohol
And the cock Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 01:15:43 Yes I took Village's whole 1 and 3/4 inches yesterday
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: STFC Village on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 01:18:04 Quote from: "simon pieman" Yes I took Village's whole 1 and 3/4 inches yesterday It's called a shot SiTitle: doherty arrested again Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 01:24:39 I call mine mini si, and your point is :wink:
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: STFC Village on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 01:26:07 My point is statistically above average :P
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 01:32:14 I did wonder why my bum was sore :piemonte:
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: STFC Village on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 01:35:31 You love it
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 01:37:03 I'm too cool for cock.
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Bennett on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 07:14:52 Quote from: "Elsterap" Quote from: "bennett" my issues with him is that he's a fucking skag head. :roll: But so are loads of other people - its just publicised less. You dont see people saying Robbie is a twat cos he does drugs. Quote are you saying skag is cool? are skag heads actually people? No-one said that :roll: and stop getting so wound up. i was just making succinct points instead of reasoning :D he'll die soon and then it'll be even worse. he'll be labelled a genius or somesuch nonsense. (skag heads aren't actually people anyway) Title: doherty arrested again Post by: littleXdave on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 07:19:38 Quote from: "bennett" i was just making succinct points instead of reasoning :D he'll die soon and then it'll be even worse. he'll be labelled a genius or somesuch nonsense. (skag heads aren't actually people anyway) Just think people idolising a moron like him! People are fucking stupid nowadays. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: red macca on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 10:41:40 how can you say skag heads are not people bennett?the amount of people who are on this drug is more than you would ever know.the sad fact is that when you think heroin you think junkie,homeless etc.the amount of people who walk past you every day who are addicted to the shit you wouldnt believe.i,ve know buisiness men,soliciters,accoutants who are on heroin but hey i suppose if you look like your not on drugs its not so much of a problem is it.with people around like you what incentive does a addict have to want to get clean?if people tried to understand WHY these people are addicts maybe more people would have reason to get clean..as for doherty he is a talented bloke who has been caught up in the wrong shit,williams,the gallaghers and so on have all been addicted to drugs but because doherty is addicted to heroin its worse?who are we to decide what drug is worse than other drugs. a addiction is a addiction full stop they obviously need help not abuse.
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 15:38:56 spot on macca. bennett's stance highlights his ignorance.
and if heroin addicts aren't people, why does doherty bother you so much? Title: doherty arrested again Post by: mattboyslim on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 15:49:41 Docherty only bothers me because he's only really famous for dating kate moss, no other musician with the output he has produced would make the six o clock news. He's a waster but then again you can't really feel shortchanged by his ballsed up gigs becaus eits not exactly a surprise when he's lacklastre or not turning up.
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Bennett on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 19:15:11 heroin users=people that knowingly inject themselves with something that will get them killed. something they know is highly addictive and massively bad for them.
ahhh someone failed to see the lightheartedness of the bracketed section. i fail to see how you could have respect for anyone who decides that the path for them is to go onto skag, and to me that's all that matters. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Spud on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 19:35:40 Quote from: "bennett" heroin users=people that knowingly inject themselves with something that will get them killed. something they know is highly addictive and massively bad for them. ahhh someone failed to see the lightheartedness of the bracketed section. i fail to see how you could have respect for anyone who decides that the path for them is to go onto skag, and to me that's all that matters. Agreed. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 19:37:23 i've got some sympathy for scagheads because it is an addiction, but it's their fucking fault for taking it in the first place.
i hate scagheads who live on methadone instead even more. that's just a socially acceptable scag addiction. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Spud on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 19:41:18 How can anyone sympathise with them?, i suppose these same people would still sympathise if they were burgled for cash to feed their addiction. :-))(
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 19:43:13 :boring: pete doherty sends me too sleep! i couldnt care less. this whole drugs play act is getting a little too boring i think
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Spud on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 19:44:37 I like the way he thinks its extremely cool to go busking knowing full well that the cops are gonna search him.
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 19:46:27 people get caught up in drugs and end up become an addict but genuinely want to get out of it. i can sympathise with that.
i say sympathise, i just tihnk they're slightly less cuntish. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Spud on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 19:48:57 If you genuinely want to get off the shit then fair enough but most are just too far gone to realise they need help. Then its too late.
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 19:50:27 i suppose i have a slight level of sympathy because i used to get loads of scag addicts coming in to work everyday when i worked in a pharmacy. although most of them were total chav cunts anyway.
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Spud on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 19:53:34 Quote from: "sonicyouth" i suppose i have a slight level of sympathy because i used to get loads of scag addicts coming in to work everyday when i worked in a pharmacy. although most of them were total chav cunts anyway. You used to work? :shock: :mrgreen: Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 20:04:03 Lets be honest though isn't heroin a better drug than nicotine?
I mean it kills less people, it doesn't smell as bad and the money is often going to poor third world communities rather than multi-national corporations or the government. It's redistributing wealth much like a charity. How can something made from a poppy be that bad? Zammo from Grange Hill seems to be doing alright for himself these days, I think he makes locks or something. Surely this shows that as part of a balanced diet, heroin can be part of a healthy lifestyle. Also it was originally invented by the English so shouldn't we all be supporting our own country's products? It was originally marketed as a cough medicine and was perfectly socially acceptable so why have things changed? Heroin has only been illegal for about half a century, until then it was no more serious than a couple of asparin which is quite a good comparison as the same company used to market it. Methadone is far more addictive than heroin, surely that's worse. Most of heroins problems simply come from cutting it with inferior drugs or other contaminants or using dirty needles, heroin overdoses are reversible anyway. In fact true heroin overdoses are so rare they are almost non-existant, addicts have injected 180 times a standard dose and been fine, the problems usually come when they give up and then relapse, perhaps they shouldn't stop? Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Sussex on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 20:12:03 Quote from: "red macca" how can you say skag heads are not people bennett?the amount of people who are on this drug is more than you would ever know.the sad fact is that when you think heroin you think junkie,homeless etc.the amount of people who walk past you every day who are addicted to the shit you wouldnt believe.i,ve know buisiness men,soliciters,accoutants who are on heroin but hey i suppose if you look like your not on drugs its not so much of a problem is it.with people around like you what incentive does a addict have to want to get clean?if people tried to understand WHY these people are addicts maybe more people would have reason to get clean..as for doherty he is a talented bloke who has been caught up in the wrong shit,williams,the gallaghers and so on have all been addicted to drugs but because doherty is addicted to heroin its worse?who are we to decide what drug is worse than other drugs. a addiction is a addiction full stop they obviously need help not abuse. Agree 100% with that! Addiction is an illness, and you have to treat the person for the problems that caused them to have an addictive personality in the first place, whatever they maybe. That's why I'm 'Sussex Red', not 'Chippenham Red'. I had to move away and break all ties with everything and everybody I knew to get back on track. It wasn't a nice period of my life, but I (luckily) realised it had to be done. If you haven't got first hand experience, or have a relative or friend going through similar problems, your opinions count for shite quite frankly. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Elsterap on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 20:26:25 Quote from: "red macca" who are we to decide what drug is worse than other drugs. a addiction is a addiction full stop they obviously need help not abuse. Well put. Unrelated Interesting fact: Coming off the lady H gives you intense penile erections :shock: Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Bennett on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 21:09:15 ben wah balls -"Lets be honest though isn't heroin a better drug than nicotine? "
sussex-"If you haven't got first hand experience, or have a relative or friend going through similar problems, your opinions count for shite quite frankly" i've been cigarette free for 2 years... ok i'll drop it. i just hate doherty and think that drug addicts get themselves into it and must accept consequences Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Bennett on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 21:10:09 Quote from: "Elsterap" Quote from: "red macca" who are we to decide what drug is worse than other drugs. a addiction is a addiction full stop they obviously need help not abuse. Well put. Unrelated Interesting fact: Coming off the lady H gives you intense penile erections :shock: unrelated fact: the mrs is at work and i had quite an erectile penis earlier. god bless the internet Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Spud on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 21:13:26 Quote from: "bennett" Quote from: "Elsterap" Quote from: "red macca" who are we to decide what drug is worse than other drugs. a addiction is a addiction full stop they obviously need help not abuse. Well put. Unrelated Interesting fact: Coming off the lady H gives you intense penile erections :shock: unrelated fact: the mrs is at work and i had quite an erectile penis earlier. god bless the internet :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :? Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Bennett on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 21:32:54 i've not got any pics tho spuddy is that's what that unsure face is it about? it's ok, if u asked i wouldn't show you anyway 8)
Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Sussex on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 21:51:05 Quote from: "bennett" i've been cigarette free for 2 years... Well done. Giving up smoking and coming off heroin are obviously as easy as each other in your world. I think you've missed the point completely though. If my memory serves me right, you're a vegan who doesn't drink, and obviously doesn't do drugs (neither do I now) or smoke, so I doubt we'll ever agree on much tbh, including your taste in music! Agree to disagree I guess. Happy Christmas x :) Edit: Apologies, I missed the I'll drop it bit. Wound me right up though :D Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Bennett on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 22:15:54 nah it's cool dude. i just thought i had another angle when ben said about nicotine/heroin (devious bennett)
i've said this to another man before but.... oh i'm embarrassed now :oops: 8) Title: doherty arrested again Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 22:32:33 Quote from: "Sussex Red" Agree 100% with that! Addiction is an illness, and you have to treat the person for the problems that caused them to have an addictive personality in the first place, whatever they maybe. That's why I'm 'Sussex Red', not 'Chippenham Red'. I had to move away and break all ties with everything and everybody I knew to get back on track. It wasn't a nice period of my life, but I (luckily) realised it had to be done. If you haven't got first hand experience, or have a relative or friend going through similar problems, your opinions count for shite quite frankly. this is why i have some sympathy. you were clever enough to get your shit together and get off drugs, rather than wallow in self-pity and take pride in being a junkie waster as pete doherty does. Title: doherty arrested again Post by: Asher on Thursday, December 22, 2005, 22:53:37 Takes a hell of alot to get off any drug. End of
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