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would the club move before they loose their identity and you stop supporting them. I'm just trying to guage opinion as there seems to be quite differing views between Swindon based fans and those who travel to home games.

For me personally a move out of the county would definatley spell the end for me. The club has always been a Wiltshire club, it's our home and the vast majority of support is obviously from within the county. I feel a move to Glous, Oxon or Berks would see us lose our identity. If the club stayed close to the Borough in east or north Wilts then IMO there is no problem. The club would still be sufficiently close enough to it's natural home. Any further than that or a move out of the county then it would cease to be Swindon Town FC, in my eyes.

I still hope it doesn't come to that and the club and SBC can resolve this mess.

Agreed Melksham, i'd support the team as long as they stayed within Wiltshire

In our case if the team moved away id continue to support to the team no matter what, because I feel we havent moved away by our own choice, rather been forced away by the SBC who for the record I hope all die...

I know it's not a very intelligent thing to say but I second that. Oh, and you missed out the "of AIDS" bit.

New Zealand is a bit far ...

They are as good as wishing death upon my football club, therefore I wish the same to them.

I would miss STFC just as much as their families would miss them, probably more seen as they are concil workers  :D

Must stay in the county and in the local vicinity.  Any moves towards south/west Wiltshire would be the end for me too.

I hope no one dies.

anywhere inside wiltshire will be ok, as long as we keep the name swindon town fc. i'm not supporting wiltshire fc!

So just south of Salisbury and you'd be ok with it?

Fuck that.

The thing is as we are pretty near the county boundary, a (albeit highly unfeasabel/illegal) move to Salibaury or South Wilts would be too far, but I could maybe accept being about 7 miles away from Town just over the border with Gloucs the other side of Cricklade (again no chance) as they say its swings and roundabouts.

Like Jan says, even south or west wilts is unacceptable whereas east or north is, IMO.

When times is tight, Jan.

Don't get me wrong, i'd be thoroughly pissed off with a move out of the borough, but if it meant the survival of the club i love, i could put up with it.

The thing is, for fans in Swindon a short trip over the Pox,Berks or Glous border isn't such a long way or big deal because it's just down the road.

Its got to be around 10 miles from Swindon for me. any further and its no longer STFC in my eyes

I'd agree Monte

as long as its still a Swindon Postcode really. Chippenham would probably be the farthest West I would go. wouldnt go too much further south as getting there would be a bitch. North, not too bothered or east is fairly accessable too.

Hopefully it turns out to be a hypothetical question.

Melksham has a Swindon post code. You don't want the club here believe me!

:soapy tit wank:

Yeah but you understand where I am coming from. I still think the only viable "out of the borough" options of Chippenham/Junction17 of the M4 area and north of Swindon just outside SBC control.

I still think the best place for a new stadium would be by Junction 15 of the M4

Ditto, county boundaries are important but not not that important, it's mileage from the CG that matters, I guess it might be less to those who travel long distances to home games anyway

As i live in Swindon, i am not used to having to travel any distance to see a home game.  Therefore, i am hoping that any relocation is to Wroughton, Bassett, Blunsdon, and no further.

If we move outside of Swindon then it just isnt swindon!

exactly.

id like them to move to corsham

The Town End should sing "Wiltshire and Proud, wiltshire and proud hello, hello!!"

in my opinion there is no excuse for moving out of town. also no councillors in their right minds would have accepted the proposals.i think the board knew they'd be thrown out.they have a hidden agenda.
they are to blame not the council

anywhere outside of swindon would be weird for me and i've never lived in swindon, let alone wiltshire.

but so long as it's wiltshire, i'd cope.

Exactly what I was going to write.

Can't agree with 'anywhere in Wiltshitre' personally. Even if it moved to Chippenham I wouldn't go. If I wanted to support a team based there I could do that today.

for me STFC will always be STFC. wherever they moved.
i'm not happy if we had too but i follow them all accross the country so if they were to move another 10 miles away from Swindon i'd still follow them. Ok it may not feel the same but if the club survive i'm happy.

it's not the clubs fault were slowly dying but thse cunts at the council digging our grave already. All we ask is for some help and they tell us to fuck off.

cunts the lot of them

That isn't strictly true, we do have to shoulder some of the responsabilty as aclub, and as fans (well technically I mean the  ones that don't come anymore)

The council are cunts mind.

As sad as it is im taking the same view you are. Although we would still have a club it just wouldnt be the same.  :(

Personally i have no connection with Swindon aside from supporting the mighty Reds,but i do have an attachment to Wiltshire in the respect that my Grandad came from Wiltshire.But honestly thats not the reason why i support Swindon ,its more force of habit :) .I'd sooner have a club than not one at all though and if moving away from Swindon and leaving the unbelievably useless council behind would keep us alive than so be it.But  i don't think we should consider moving too far away, and hopefully it won't come to that.

Moaning grannies eh?  Maybe what Swindon really needs is a Harold Shipman style GP??

all depends for me, couldn't say. i think a move out of swindon and you wouldn't be able to call it swindon town fc. and im not supporting some other cruddy name.

All i'll say is if we folded,i would give up football,i don't think i could invest so much time ,energy,money and dare i say love into another team.

i'd support calne....probably.

I'm with Larwood.  Swindon or bust.  I wouldn't like a move to the outskirts but that's about my limit.

I'd support the team anywhere really, its not the clubs fault the council is full of muppets.

Christ, they wont be moving it more than a 20 minute drive away! If a new stadium was built elsewhere within Swindon it would be a bitch to get to. It would be no worse than Stokes ground or the riverside stadum, a little bit out of town. All this talk of AFC Swindon and it not being Swindon Town anymore is rubbish. Christ, look at this way, we wont be moving well over an hour away from where we origianlly were (a la Wimbledon, Franchise) or merging with another team (like a few Scottish teams have had to do in the past) or Turn into a non league team (accrington Stanley anyone?) or even do what airdrie did and as you went bust, buy another team and steal their place in the league!

sorry, rant over. I just think alot of people are over reacting to the moving outside of SBC control issue.

Yes your right mate,i was just pointing out that IF we folded,something i don't belive is going to happen :D ,i wouldn't be able to support any other team.

As STFC supporters we believe we reserve the right to publically announce that if we should move or not move, in or out of the town (or county) we will denounce our loyalties to the aforementioned club.  If the board should make any statement of any kind in support or against such a move (or staying put), we will not tolerate it and will ask for their resignations, or long term commitment, to Swindon Town Football Club.

Now who's with me?

I'd support them how ever far the club went.

It's just another excuse for people not to watch really isn't it. The moaning bastards that go to every game will have a field day.

I'd love to say how many of those that sang 'Swindon til I die' actually live up to that.

I must be honest, I don't really imagine myself being a week in week out Swindon Town supporter for the rest of my life.  A lot of water to come under the bridge.

Surely you don't expect me to put another 50 years in at the CG do you?

So you think not following Swindon to say Gloucester for example means that you're disloyal. What bullshit.

When exactly does Swindons stop being Swindon though. It's a personal perspective that has a different answer for you than me.

As I say, even if it moved to Newbury the problem wouldn't be location because it is about 30 minutes closer to where I live. The problem is identity. I could not support a team that no longer represents what I have supported all these years.

people shouldn't take for granted that devlin speaks the truth,you cannot expect any council to just let them do what the proposals stated.
the board must have known this,surely.
if a proper workable proposal was forthcoming,i'm hopefull the council would back it.swidons local mp has said the club should remain in swindon.
this whole saga stinks of the franchise fc, fiasco.
we must not let it happen.




SWINDON TOWN FC

not newbury.wootton bassett,or anywhere else

Spot on

Sounds like a chorus of "WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED!" at the next Home game then.  :)

Not sure I'm too keen on moving....STFC  and the CG have been linked for over 100+ years, it s a great location for a ground....

Any move out of Swindon would mak it a lot harder for me to keep renewing my season ticket but if the club we're trying as hard as they could to keep the club in Swindon i would be happy to support the club wherever they end up.

Ang Reg, i agree any move out of the County Ground would be totally disheartening.

i agree, but if it comes to the club either staying at the CG and going bust or moving to a new stadium, not that far outside of swindon, but still carrying on, I dont think i'd have too much of a problem with it. Yes, it would be sad leaving the county ground, but clubs have to adapt to the world around them.

Swindon can't move to Gloucester though can they??

The furthest they can move is to an area with an SN postcode and the furthest place away is Chippenham. Is a trip down the A3102 really that much of a problem?

It was a hypothetical question.

id watch the team anywhere up to chippenham. any further than that then no! if its further than cirencester or faringdon then no also

Id lose interest if I had to travel anywhere.It needs to be within 15 minutes of my house and thats that.I wouldnt go if it involved bus rides and stuff.

 Part of my reason for buying a house in Old Town, was so that I could walk down to the CG, in about 15 mins....have a couple of beers before a game and a few more after and not need to worry about transport etc.

After walking to football at the CG for more than 50 years, a different venue would not be STFC for me.

 Maybe STFC should have stayed at the Croft, I've often sat up the top of the slope there and tried to imagine what it might have looked like if a ground had been built there.

the talks about the ground are bollocks wont be the same without the stadium in the centre of our town

but id rather that then no club wouldnt you Paynie?

umm yeah i would offer our field but its near edge of town and we gettin a offer for housing

where do you live?

covingham

but then again all the people will do is hate the plans for the stadium again and again cus they suck

it's a case of "not in our back yard" isn't it? just look at shaw tip. i live quite close by and i know that none of the locals use that shite piece of land yet they all cried when the proposals came out! cunts!

:beers:


yeah you summed it up there

Only lived in Swindon for the first 20 months of my life, but I'd hate to see the club leave the County Ground and move outside Swindon.

But I'd still support them whatever, just hope if they have to move it's as near to Swindon as possible, it wouldn't be the same though.

my mum said a bloke at her work was moaning about the new ground proposals today. he lives on shrivenham road & was saying, 'oh we don't want a football club on our doorstep'. what a cunt! she said he's lived there about 8 years, yet how long has the football club been there, 80, 90 years? he shouldn't have moved there in the first place if he didn't want to be near it. once again, cunt! people like that piss me right off!

yeah lets knock abbey meads down and start again

Thats what fucks me off about that NIMBYS around the County Ground, if you don't want to live near a football stadium - DONT MOVE NEXT TO ONE. Complaints about the ground should be filed as invalid as its there own fucking fault for moving next to it in the first place.

The Shaw thing is 100% true aswell, no one goes there. I went on a walk through it the other day it's just a wasteland with nothing on it. Then again, if the club and fans had tried hard enough and put more effort it I still think we would have got it.

well its a case... the town fans that want it only 25% of them will fight we need all 4000 of our fans and club members to fight for this stadium

I think we have more than 4000 fans mate... Even thought thats all we get at home.

I think soon we may need to start fighting against the council ourselves. They aren't getting away with killing the club.

Arson anybody?

Erm, you post contradictions, Tails. The CG residents have always known what they were moving next to. The Shaw residents moved in without knowledge that one was going to built next to them.

It would have never happened at Shaw anyway. The legality and finances were just as dubious as the current club proposals, resident objections aside.

umm no



*personal trainers of arsonists needed*

I know a bloke who will torch a car for you, but I don't think he's ready for a stadium just yet!

we need to plan .....

 The old Doncaster chairman torched Belle Vue...they fell to the Conference with a record low points and 113 goals conceded just missed relegation to the Unibond league and are now above us and have humiliated 2 Prem teams this season.

 Yet the ground has not improved.

If they build it in Chippenham I'll fucking torch it.  


Has to be closer than that, out of boundaries I can live with.

They are in talks with the Council I think to get a new Community Stadium!!

Indeed due to open within a year or so, housing 16,000 at max capacity.

I agree with the near county ground residents, same as the people who live near Heathrow, don't live near an airport then!!

And as an Ashbrake resident, I fully support the motion to flattened Abbey Meads and build a new stadium there, that'd be class!!

Does that make me an IMBY??

Jan if you wanna start a new movment of IMBYs then you're more than welcome.

I know we've got a little bit of land next to our house but it's not quite big enough to build a ground.  Shame I'd prefer a new ground than a KFC or McD's.

Not sure if my Mrs would join my IMBY brigade.

Interesting thought Reg. The ground would have cost peanuts in 1884, before the amalgamation of Old and New Town. Imagine Swindon Town footballers changing in the Fountain Inn,and  fans buying tickets in a pigeonhole in the Royal Oak Inn, then standing on wooden boards to watch! Their first year in the Southern League was played there apparently.
Presumably enough space was available then for a stadium, before the houses (where I live) were built in the 1920's, and the Sports Centre.
Pity the Goddard family were not football fans!

i'll agree to trhat, nothing decent in chippenham thanks.

Johno wants it in Calne...

well...wouldn't be to bad.  :)