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I may be the lone ranger here,  but i think the board should cut their losses with Iffy, and have a gamble with a lower league manager - (eg) Grays athletic manager, or just a young manager who has had some experience in lower league football.


In 13 games we've  won 2, drawn 5  lost 6.

In the league we've won 1, drawn 4 and lost 4.

Sure, i know the Swindon job is a hard one, but getting 7 points from a possible 27 isn't exactly good.

Some of his team selection process and loan signings have been a bit dodgey.

Whats the point in playing Roberts and Bouazza on the wings, when there best postions are upfront.  Against City,  we had Fallon and Bouazza upfront, and they caused City problems all night.  

Today we had Platt, Migs and Gurney in centeral midfield positions.  If we play 3 in the middle, we need at least one of them to be attack minded.  I didnt go to the game today,  but from the sounds of the radio,  Swindon could have played all day and night, and still wouldn't have scored.

We need balance in the side.  We need people playing in their proper positions.  

Next week will be fun,   no Gurney, Ifil, Hanlon or Jenkins.  It will be good to see some of the youngsters play.  At least they will put the effort in ...

Fuck Off Iffy =  :king:

No

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Were fucked no one can save us.

Sounds like Mex could. :wink:

oh yes apart from Mex 8)

I agree i think it is time to change, iffy tried his best but he has only got us 1 win and brought in some very odd loan signings. I know i may get a bit of abuse for saying this but i dont think Andy King would of done any worse then iffy if anything we would have a few more points. I would rather we got a new manager or maybe gave someone with a lot of passion (i.e Reeves) a chance.

Mex is a legend, he should be manager no questions asked :D

Only a devine intervention could save us now. Or Mex

iffy in,he has inherited that shit squad.
no manager could turn that shower of shit into a decent team

Apart from Mex  :D

:roll:


fuck off son! YES, we played shite. YES, we're gonna struggle. YES, you werent there, so keep your mouth shut.  :soapy tit wank:

like it or not, Iffy is here to stay. If the poison dwarf aint gonna dip his hand into his oversized (especially for him, cos he's so small) pockets for any players in January, he aint gonna pay for a 'proper' manager.

Nothing wrong with our chairman in my view.  Hes the one who has saved us on a number of occasions - using his own personal money to balance the books.  No many chairmans in league 1 have high transfer budgets.


Iffy has done ok,  but Swindon have a good bunch of players who are much better then their league position suggests.  Iffy isnt getting the best out of the boys, and hence why we need a change.

Just my two cents ...

 Its the Wills family who have dipped into their pocket to bail us out, aside from his initial 400K investment some years ago Mr Carson hasn't spent a bean as far as anyone knows...(its always posible I may be doing Willie a disservice, but nobody has ever heard different.)

 Unfortunately the table doesn't lie....we're in the basement, because we have too many players who are not of the required standard for this division....and possibly on the evidence Of Wycombe Boston and Posh, for the division below.

No i think we have the players, we just dont have thetaff to get the best from these players.  The players lack motivation and desire.  The only games ive seen this season where Town have been up for the game is against Forest and City.  Every player gave it there all, and you cant ask for more.  However games against the likes of Boston + Wycomble,  Town looked lazy, and the way the played was as if they couldnt be bothered.

As for the players ...

Just look at Cureton.  Played for Swindon, and couldnt score on a regular basis.  Now hes on loan at Colchester, hes scoring for fun ....

Heaton is a top class keeper

Ifil is a eratic at times, can be great, but liable to make mistakes

O Hanlon     hes a rock.  Hardly has a poor game, probs Town best defender

Jenkins is a solid pro at this level

Nicholas -  not to sure about

Migs -  when fit, oe of the best midfeilders.

Pook -  Still learning, needs to improve

Whalley -  did it at a higher level,   hasnt produced this season.

Roberts -  Hasnt got going since his injury

Fallon -  One of the top scorers in the league

Thorpe -  He used to be a quality player.  I think he can still do it at this level.  Needs time and faith

Cureton -  Doing the business at Colchester

Overall i think we have a better team this season.  However wesimply miss a competitve midfielder aka  a Roy Keane.  The midfield needs organising.  We leek to many goals due to the midfield not covering the defence well enough.  We dont score many goals, as the creativeness from midfield is crap.

We need a new manager with new ideas, who can install some confidence into the team.  The players have the ability, its just getting that ability onto the pitch.

You think this seasons crop is better than last seasons.... :nuts:

Well if you didnt go to the game then SHUT THE FUCK UP!

I listened to Iffy's post match comments, definite signs of arsehole puckering.  I don't think he knows what he can do to win games with the players at his disposal.  Time to offer Roy Keane his first crack at management.

Assuming Roy won't join us, now relagation is more likely than not, there is not much to lose.  After next week's suspensions, the first job is to make a list, who can play, then make a second list who wants to play.  Once there is a combined list of "can plays" and "want to plays," stick the rest of the first team squad into a reserve game.  From that, decide who could play.  From there, stick to 4:4:2, and play only those who can play and want to play, put the could plays on the bench.  For the rest, put them on the transfer list, or send them back to their clubs if loan players.  Note that the "want to plays" have to show effort, running off the ball, tracking back, and going in for 50/50 balls, etc.  The "can plays," will be the hard part, let's say mid-Div II level minimum.

ASSUMING Roy wont join us?!!!

Of course he wont!  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

The board could always ask, won't cost anything, and if he's been to the pub he might say yes.  If he says no, Okay it was only a phone call.  We have had Ardilles and Hoddle as managers, not forgetting Macari.  Maybe a phone call to Honda for sponsorship might help.

Last time we really stunk up the Football League, Macari got some players together including some non-leaguers and the rest is history.  Actually, Macari would keep them off alcohol, wonder what he's doing, besides being a pundit.

Looks like the Conference for us, then the Trust will take over when the board throws in the towel, then we will begging Supermarine to borrow their ground.

Keane got frustrated with Man utd players fucking up and not performing he'd kill himself trying to understand div 3 players.

Iffy seemed more interested in moaning at the 4th official than trying to drum up some kind of performance.  that annoyed me somewhat.

but the ref was apalling. so was the lineo...

but you cant do anything about that, some kind of motivation or change might have helped.

Exactly,  you can't blame the officials for a poor team performance.

I think we need someone experienced to try and help us out of this ... Iffy hasnt got the nous im afraid .. Peter Reid perhaps???

Not Peter Reid thanks!

Don't get to many of the games because of work so won't give my opinion on Iffy as I haven't seen many matches.

I can't imagine any changes happening even if the board wanted to though as they're still paying King every month and they simply can't afford anyone else. Unless Sir Seton puts some more money into the club.

No he hasn't. Willie Carson is the chairman, I think you're confusing him with the major shareholder, Sir Seton Wills, who definitely has saved the club several times.

what is the point in getting in a non league manager? iffy out? give the bloke a chance for gods sake!

I personally think we need a FRESH face at the club with experience .. i know that the club cant afford it tho

A couple of points from this discussion

Jenkins is a "solid pro" - No he isn't, he's a nice enough bloke but since joining us from Peterborough he hasn't done much to better the side at all.  Looked shit on Saturday as he did against Scunthorpe.

A phone call to Honda blah blah blah - just because the employ people in this town doesn't mean our friendly japs are gonna waste a million or two on STFC.  Also don't you think this has been tried before.

As for Iffy, I just don't see the point in getting rid, starting from scratch again would be suicide.

Money? according to some fella/clown in front of me on saturday we're paying them all £100k a year at least, "see him (jenks) he's on £170k, Roberts £190k" I nearly died laughing!!! Migz got taken off and he could hardly say his name, but was saying "that's the last game you've played for this club" whinging all match, and didn't seem obviously drunk, just very deluded.

Twats - Iffy in

1 win, 4 draws and a loss with the squad he has is alright, and we can't be to quick to attack them after the loss to Barnsley.

Iffy's doing the best job he can, and we can't afford anyone else

Iffy In!

I'm not so sure about iffy now, and its not just saturdays result and performance.

I though his team selection was a mess, no creativity in midfield at all apart from a below par migz.

No-one from the midfield even tried to support fallon. Roberts and Bouazza were miles away from rory most of the time, and offered him no support. Sure the players were shit, but I dont think we ever really stood much of a chance of a decent performance with the tactics and personel deployed from the start.

I like Iffy but 4-5-1 at Home just doesnt work.  :|

seemed more like 443, then looked like we had 4 up front second half the way we were playing.

4-4-3 and we still didn't win    :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


We need balance in the team.  I didnt, and dont see the point in playing two pacey strikers on the wing.  Its like putting Henry on the wing.  Sure he can do a good job, but why put him there when he plays better upfront.

We need to play a 4-4-2 with a creative midfielder -  dare I say it,   an Igoe.  Swindon are lacking a person who can deliver quality in the final third.  

Its not as if we are a million miles worse then most teams in this division.  Simply the chances the oposition create are better - and hence why they score more goals.   Barnsley was a classic example.  They didnt outplay Swindon.  They simply created a couple of decent chances which they scored.  Swindon only created half chances

Igoe was complete toss last season.

Igoe - 15 good games in 03-04, 5 good games in 04-05. Gutless.

Ok someone of the Igoe style then soapy tit wank

We need stability not our 3rd manager in a season.  The next 3 games will tell us whats going to happen for our season, a new manager wont keep us up.  If a new manager could guarentee us 1st division safety then i would be right there calling for a new manager but it wont.  Lets stay on the iffy rollercoaster and seewhat happens at the end of the season and then decide.

We will stay up, well i hope :D  :D

Don’t get me wrong I don’t think it’s a question of replacing the manager or even questioning his position at this point.  At the end of the day we have appointed a young manager whose experience outside of playing is two short spells under Paul Merson and Andy King.  That’s hardly an apprenticeship to shout about.

We can’t expect Iffy to work miracles and not make mistakes after all its part of the learning curve.  As much as I wanted the big man to work wonders it does look as if he’s going to struggle and after Saturday can anyone see evidence of anything different?

It’s far from the managers fault mind and it’s important to make that clear he inherited a situation that may well be above and beyond anyone.

To go full circle it’s perplexing that so many clubs take such a gamble appointing the cheap option when it comes to a new manager.  Generally at any given level all but the top tier of managers generally earn a fair bit less than their players.  It’s strange then that such an important fundamental part of a club and its very future and possibly its existence is decided on the cost of labour.

Not that given our situation we could have attracted a successful manager far from it but there are both successful managers in the lower leagues and vastly experienced assistants and coaches who may be persuaded to take the step-up to management.  

Unfortunately I can’t see much changing as things are.  There’s always hope and given how open the league is there’s still a chance it may happen but with each passing week it’s looking more unlikely to me.  I’d perhaps like to see a Steve Coppell re-run with an experienced head coming in to lend a hand and provide a springboard to success.  

It’s a dangerous game mind.  Not only is there the risk of completely undermining the current gaffer but it has to be someone who can support the current manger without taking over completely.  Not an easy job.

Either way we all have to keep rock solid behind the big man until we're safe and hopefully beyond.

Igoe was the worst player, he never tried wait a minute.....i see some of the players now are doing exactly the same.