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Post by: CARTMAN on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:10:03
his doctor has just been on sky sports news saying he will most likely die within the next 24 hours
the drugs he was given to allow his liver to not be rejected have had an adverse affect also with a cold he caught has damaged his lungs as well as his liver and is not expected to live for much longer


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Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:10:27
going..
going...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4465456.stm

He may be a waster, it may be self inflicted, but it is still sad when somebody dies before old age.


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Post by: Onion_Jimbo on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:11:19
The doctor was crying. That was really sad


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Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:12:37
da da da da da da da de de de de didle doo boooooooooo

thats the countdown theme by the way


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Post by: strooood on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:26:58
dont be such a bunch of wankers.

show some respect he's a footballing legend who is dieing atleast 20 years early

condolences to his family and friends....a sad day


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Post by: STFC_Chris on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:30:50
Quote from: "decks-e-tow"
dont be such a bunch of wankers.

show some respect he's a footballing legend who is dieing atleast 20 years early

condolences to his family and friends....a sad day

Indeed he is...not that I have seen much of him. Read this on the Observer website a few days ago...Genius.

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...Holland - midway between successive World Cup final appearances - and Johan Cruyff were at their peak at the time. George wasn't. I asked him what he thought of the acknowledged world number one and he said he thought the Dutchman was outstanding. 'Better than you?' I asked. George looked at me and laughed. 'You're kidding aren't you? I tell you what I'll do tonight... I'll nutmeg Cruyff first chance I get.' And we both laughed at the thought.

A couple of hours later the Irish players were announced one by one on to the pitch. Pat Jennings, as goalkeeper, was first out of the tunnel to appreciative applause. Best, as No 11, was last. 'And now,' revved up the PA guy, 'Number 11, Georgie [long pause] Best.' And out trotted George. Above him, a beautiful blonde reached over with a single, long-stemmed red rose.

Given his nature, his training and his peripheral vision there was no way he was going to miss her or the rose, so he stopped, trotted back, reached up to take the flower, kissed her hand and ran out on to the pitch waving his rose at the punters as the applause grew even louder.

Five minutes into the game he received the ball wide on the left. Instead of heading towards goal he turned directly infield, weaved his way past at least three Dutchmen and found his way to Cruyff who was wide right. He took the ball to his opponent, dipped a shoulder twice and slipped it between Cruyff's feet. As he ran round to collect it and run on he raised his right fist into the air.

Only a few of us in the press box knew what this bravado act really meant. Johan Cruyff the best in the world? Are you kidding? Only an idiot would have thought that on this evening.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport/story/0,6903,1646612,00.html


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Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:32:41
he is a football legend fact! He is also a very selfish man who wrecked not just his life but those of his family and he disrespected the person who donated him their liver! He had a chance to turn his life around and he did'nt! Sorry to sound hard but I have no respect for the man! However condolences to his family and friends who unfortunately were linked to such a self destructing human being!


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Post by: Onion_Jimbo on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:37:06
Alcoholism is a disease. Its an addiction. He doesnt just drink because he likes the taste


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Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:44:08
Quote from: "Onion_Jimbo"
Alcoholism is a disease. Its an addiction. He doesnt just drink because he likes the taste


We all know thats a lie.  Blue WKD is his drink of choice, the tart


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Post by: Northern Red on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:45:53
No time for addicts - heroin, alcohol, whatever - they're just weak, and are unprepared to take responsibility for their actions  :x

Twats - death is too good for them...


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Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:48:18
So why should someone with a self-inflicted disease get the liver of a doner rather then that of someone with liver disease!? I just feel that if you are given a chance like that you should take it! In my view Mr Best did not even try! He seemed like a man who thought life owed him one because he is a football legend! It may be unfair of me to judge but it's my opinion that he wasted the opportunity he was given! Yes alcoholism is a disease but not one you are born with and one you can definitely prevent!


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Post by: Onion_Jimbo on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:53:27
its not really a nice thing to argue about at this time.



anyway, I'm off for a 48 hour bender


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Post by: janaage on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 13:58:06
I haven't got a clue what I posted before but my serious thoughts are as follows.

Georgie Best was probably the greatest British based player we have ever witnessed.  I know he's made mistakes in life, haven;t we all.  He wasn't the one who demanded a liver transplant and if anything that one live he received has done more for donors than anything.

The guy is now on his death bed and deserves all the best wishes he can receive.  My thoughts are with him and his family.  We are all the same precious, vunerable creatures when we are as close to death as George is now.


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Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 14:09:23
Quote from: "Onion_Jimbo"
its not really a nice thing to argue about at this time.



anyway, I'm off for a 48 hour bender


all the BEST Jimbo :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


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Post by: janaage on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 14:13:33
I know pubs are allowed to be open for 24 hours now Jimbo, but can they really stay open for 48 hours now too???

 :shock:  :wink:


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Post by: ron dodgers on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 14:40:12
Quote from: "Danjackson10"
So why should someone with a self-inflicted disease get the liver of a doner rather then that of someone with liver disease!? I just feel that if you are given a chance like that you should take it! In my view Mr Best did not even try! He seemed like a man who thought life owed him one because he is a football legend! It may be unfair of me to judge but it's my opinion that he wasted the opportunity he was given! Yes alcoholism is a disease but not one you are born with and one you can definitely prevent!


hmm I wondered why his liver packed in if it came from a kebab shop
Anyway, my point being is that addiction can be genetic as well - so there


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Post by: red macca on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 15:37:03
Quote from: "Northern Red"
No time for addicts - heroin, alcohol, whatever - they're just weak, and are unprepared to take responsibility for their actions  :x

Twats - death is too good for them...
i actually agree with you nr.but its not that easy to stop im a ex heroin addict been clean 5 yrs but not everyone is that lucky.i had to totally change my lifestyle but if your famous i would imagine its a lot harder to do that...the death to good for them is a bot ott though


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Post by: Onion_Jimbo on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 15:45:59
wow, tef's first skag head


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Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 15:48:47
Quote from: "ron dodgers"
Quote from: "Danjackson10"
So why should someone with a self-inflicted disease get the liver of a doner rather then that of someone with liver disease!? I just feel that if you are given a chance like that you should take it! In my view Mr Best did not even try! He seemed like a man who thought life owed him one because he is a football legend! It may be unfair of me to judge but it's my opinion that he wasted the opportunity he was given! Yes alcoholism is a disease but not one you are born with and one you can definitely prevent!


hmm I wondered why his liver packed in if it came from a kebab shop
Anyway, my point being is that addiction can be genetic as well - so there

i think there seems to be a split view on best and we all gonna have to agree to disagree! i think his alcoholism was more down to his lifestyle then any genetics but that is another debate!


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Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 15:50:41
says lee dixon


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Post by: janaage on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 15:51:04
Quote from: "Onion_Jimbo"
wow, tef's first skag head


I'm sure he's not the first, judging by some of the stuff posted on here, he's probably just the most honest skag heed on here.


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Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 15:53:00
shut it birdy  :wink:


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Post by: larwood on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:03:32
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i had to totally change my lifestyle but if your famous i would imagine its a lot harder to do that...

I guess being famous probably didn't help him as he was always being indulged, but being famous also could have helped him find help,something he only showed occasional interest in.He was a footballing genius no doubt,one of the best ever,but i'm not going to feel too sad as its been coming for ages.The bloke pissed a large portion of his life away and i guess he  never regreted the way he spent his life,but his family might.


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Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:10:52
Quote from: "Onion_Jimbo"
wow, tef's first skag head
What about Dave M Russell?


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Post by: red macca on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:18:17
Quote from: "Onion_Jimbo"
wow, tef's first skag head
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: ex dont forget that bit..


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Post by: Onion_Jimbo on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:28:13
once a skag head, always a skag head. Thats what my great uncle bulgaria used to say.

If I were to offer you a sexy hyperdermic full of creamy heroin would you turn it down? I wouldnt.

As long as no gays had touched it, wouldnt want to catch teh gay


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Post by: Foggy on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:30:43
Oh my God, mhwg is Onion Jimbo In disguise :shock:


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Post by: red macca on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:32:48
Quote from: "Onion_Jimbo"
once a skag head, always a skag head. Thats what my great uncle bulgaria used to say.

If I were to offer you a sexy hyperdermic full of creamy heroin would you turn it down? I wouldnt.

As long as no gays had touched it, wouldnt want to catch teh gay
that would explain your narrow mindedness then wouldnt it..i live in park south still managed to stay off it,,and if you were to offer it to me you would be likely to recieve a nice creamy headbutt :D


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Post by: Sade on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:34:01
Even though its his own fault it came to this, I still feel sorry for george best. It must be a horrible thing to live with. Well atleast he's hopefully gone to a better place. Like someone said He was a footballing legend and made england proud, your making out like he is a bad man. At the end of the day he's a normal person with a family and it shows what constantly being in the lime light can lead to. I feel for all his family and friends.


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Post by: McLovin on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:35:17
He isn't English...


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Post by: janaage on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:37:57
Not sure if you realise this but "George Best" is an anagram for "Best George" and I think that's kinda apt.

That's pretty deep for this time of day eh?


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Post by: Arriba on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:42:42
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "Onion_Jimbo"
once a skag head, always a skag head. Thats what my great uncle bulgaria used to say.

If I were to offer you a sexy hyperdermic full of creamy heroin would you turn it down? I wouldnt.

As long as no gays had touched it, wouldnt want to catch teh gay
that would explain your narrow mindedness then wouldnt it..i live in park south still managed to stay off it,,and if you were to offer it to me you would be likely to recieve a nice creamy headbutt :D


well done for beating the addiction.i was into the rave scene in the early 90's and dabbled with every chemical under the sun.a few of my mates went on to become heroin addicts.4 of them died because of that shit,luckily the rest got clean like you.anyone that makes jokes ect about it dont know shit.


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Post by: Foggy on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:43:16
He made the choice to live the way he did, it was his decision to hit the bottle again. At least he lived his life to the full , he blew his second chance and now has to pay the piper. I cant sit in judgement because i cant say that i wouldnt have done the same thing, it cant be easy being an addict. I feel sorry for his family and friends who have had  to watch him waste way these past weeks.He wasnt a bad person just some one who couldnt control his addiction.


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Post by: red macca on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:45:03
Quote from: "arriba"
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "Onion_Jimbo"
once a skag head, always a skag head. Thats what my great uncle bulgaria used to say.

If I were to offer you a sexy hyperdermic full of creamy heroin would you turn it down? I wouldnt.

As long as no gays had touched it, wouldnt want to catch teh gay
that would explain your narrow mindedness then wouldnt it..i live in park south still managed to stay off it,,and if you were to offer it to me you would be likely to recieve a nice creamy headbutt :D


well done for beating the addiction.i was into the rave scene in the early 90's and dabbled with every chemical under the sun.a few of my mates went on to become heroin addicts.4 of them died because of that shit,luckily the rest got clean like you.anyone that makes jokes ect about it dont know shit.
unfortunatly to many people are quick to judge anyone with a addiction thats just life i suppose


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Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:46:07
Quote from: "Foggy"
He made the choice to live the way he did, it was his decision to hit the bottle again. At least he lived his life to the full , he blew his second chance and now has to pay the piper. I cant sit in judgement because i cant say that i wouldnt have done the same thing, it cant be easy being an addict. I feel sorry for his family and friends who have had  to watch him waste way these past weeks.He wasnt a bad person just some one who couldnt control his addiction.


agreed


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Post by: Bedford Red on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 16:47:10
Total Football Legend, shame he couldn't keep off the drink even after the transplant.


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Post by: Crozzer on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 17:03:52
I never saw Stanley Matthews play, but I saw George Best play.  Both had  genius.  I hope a sample of his goals are shown on national television.  George could do everything, he could win the ball, head it, pass it, skin defenders, shoot with power, lob, cross, and make it look easy.  Matt Busby's strategy was simple give the ball to Best.  Possibly, it was all too easy for him.  He played in an era when the game was tougher and more physical, how would he be stopped today.  If he were twenty today, Chelsea would not be able to afford him.

His life ended in tragedy, but don't take anything away from the most naturally talented player ever to play in the British Iles.  I am proud to say I have witnessed George Best play football, a player who admired another great winger, Don Rogers.


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Post by: Bedford Red on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 17:19:46
When Fulham played Swindon in an FA Cup 3rd round replay on January 11th 1977 at the County Ground, Rodney Marsh, Bobby Moore and George Best were in the Fulham team.

23,883 turned up to watch that match. I'm sure lots of them did to get tickets for the 4th round home tie against Everton (24,437), but I would think a lot did just to get to see Best play, that was the pulling power of the player.

Did anyone on here see that match, or know much about it. Reg, I guess you would have seen it/remember it?


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Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 17:20:15
it can't be nice for his family to have to put up with all the media attention, they might as well stick him on a trolley in the centre of london such is the way his untimely death is being played out in the public eye.

let the man die with dignity and respect, self-inflicted or not that's the least he deserves.


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Post by: adje on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 17:24:47
Quote from: "Bedford Red"
When Fulham played Swindon in an FA Cup 3rd round replay on January 11th 1977 at the County Ground, Rodney Marsh, Bobby Moore and George Best were in the Fulham team.

23,883 turned up to watch that match. I'm sure lots of them did to get tickets for the 4th round home tie against Everton (24,437), but I would think a lot did just to get to see Best play, that was the pulling power of the player.

Did anyone on here see that match, or know much about it. Reg, I guess you would have seen it/remember it?



I remember being there,we stuffed 'em for 5(Beanpole Dave Syrett scored 2 as did Mossy)but I will always remember it as the time I saw Besty for the first (and only)time play live,he was still supremely talented.


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Post by: my-velocity on Thursday, November 24, 2005, 21:46:31
Quote from: "Onion_Jimbo"
The doctor was crying. That was really sad


Got too me, theres no turning back for him now though. It is sad when someone, anyone dies.

Hope he finds peace.


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Post by: CARTMAN on Friday, November 25, 2005, 12:34:08
press conference outside the hospital now
doesnt look good


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Post by: McLovin on Friday, November 25, 2005, 12:52:55
What was said?


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Post by: Asher on Friday, November 25, 2005, 12:56:29
Quote from: "Northern Red"
No time for addicts - heroin, alcohol, whatever - they're just weak, and are unprepared to take responsibility for their actions  :x

Twats - death is too good for them...


bOLLOCKS TO THAT, YOU EVER BEEN ADDICTED TO SOMETHING? Once you are it takes a hell of a lot to get over it.


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Post by: Ralphy on Friday, November 25, 2005, 12:57:53
Quote from: "Asher"
Quote from: "Northern Red"
No time for addicts - heroin, alcohol, whatever - they're just weak, and are unprepared to take responsibility for their actions  :x

Twats - death is too good for them...


bOLLOCKS TO THAT, YOU EVER BEEN ADDICTED TO SOMETHING? Once you are it takes a hell of a lot to get over it.


Quite agree Sir.

I'm addicted to tobaco and it's fucking hell to give up.


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Post by: CARTMAN on Friday, November 25, 2005, 12:58:22
nothing yet. shit load of press waiting outside


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Post by: Ralphy on Friday, November 25, 2005, 12:59:17
He's gone i reckon  :(


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Post by: Ralphy on Friday, November 25, 2005, 12:59:55
ITV i take it?


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Post by: Ralphy on Friday, November 25, 2005, 13:03:59
He's dead.


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Post by: CARTMAN on Friday, November 25, 2005, 13:04:02
Quote from: "Ralphy"
ITV i take it?

sky sports news

its a bit sick really loads of people hanging around outside the hospital waiting for him to die


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Post by: CARTMAN on Friday, November 25, 2005, 13:05:48
he died just after 1pm  :(


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Post by: McLovin on Friday, November 25, 2005, 14:08:51
Quote from: "Ralphy"
He's dead.


Ralph goes for the sensitive approach...