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Sorry to create another new thread but I haven't read all the others yet, need a bit of time to do that!

In all honesty, I'm pleased that King has gone. I felt he has become stale and ineffective, people have become indifferent to him and those that haven't want him out. There are a fairly large number of people who supported him through thick and thin and up until this season, I was one of them - I've never called for King's head once in the 5 years he's been here until this season.

During his reign there has been good times and bad, he's stabilised the club and arguably stopped us going down the shitter entirely. However, he's also managed to alienate a number of loyal fans - who still attend the games - and pissed off an equal amount. Furthermore, we have gone on a poor run of form every season he's been here, he's never settled on tactics, team selections and has constantly selected players who are now struggling to get into teams in the division below.

Overall, he's done an average job and he's worked under tremendously difficult circumstances. I'd wish him luck in the future but I honestly can't see him getting another managerial position at any level.

I feel this is a step forward for the club and it's time to build from scratch again, Iffy has presumably been appointed caretaker manager in the meantime and whilst he lacks managerial experience and nobody can predict how he'll get on, I will back him 100% as I'm sure everybody else will.

People calling for us to appoint Lou Macari are frankly insane. There is simply no point living in the past, we need to move forward and bringing back a manager who was successful with us nearly 20 years ago simply wouldn't be a step forward. I simply cannot see Macari getting us out of the relegation battle that we currently find ourselves caught up in.

Likewise, the chances of us appointing somebody like Wilkins or Wise are slim - the club simply couldn't afford them. As much as I'd like to see either of them (or both) at the club, there's very little chance we'd manage to attract them to Swindon Town.

In the meantime, I'm looking forward to seeing Iffy's first game in charge tomorrow and will be intrigued to see what sort of team and formation he picks. Beyond that, I'm excited about who we might appoint but I am also cautious. The speculation should be fun, if not fucking irritating at times!

good post.

with king as manager we were going to get relegated.

under iffy we've got a chance for the fans to unite and with a new approach to the team hopefully the players (and the team) will start to realise their potential. if the worst happens and we go down, then we will go down together.

If Iffy gets the job, will Kings former wages go towards new players?

doubt it! i imagine the settlement will be for King to receive his wages weekly up until the end of the contract...

Good post Sonic.

At first i was a bit miffed as to why we have appointed Iffy but hearing him on Points West and some of the comments on here he deserves his chance and like everyone (i hope) will back him 110%.

I'm looking forward to tomorrow night now and can't wait to welcome Iffy onto the pitch and sing his name all night.

Come on you Redzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I'm posting this again, one of the few post I'm proud to have written. I totally agree with SY.



King had to go, his position had been increasingly untenneable.

I've generally supported him during his time here, and thought that he'd done a reasonable job given the limited and diminishing resources he was given to work with.

However, over recent weeks my gut feeling has changed - I felt like he was coming to the end of the line. OK, we've played reasonable football in the last couple of games, I dont think we were that bad v Bradfrod tbh but we still lost.

We underachieved last season with the squad we had, we all know which players were responsible for that. utimatley its up to him to get those players going. The same follows this season - decent players with no clear game plan, big names underperforming.

Either Thorpe. Cureton & Whalley - who've all had good and sucessfull careers at a higher level have totally forgetten what made them good in the first place or they were not being coached or motivated properly. The same could be said for the likes of Igoe, Howard, Evans etc last season. Some trends during his era have always contuinued ie a shit defence. our back 4 on saturday are individually decent players, but did not play as a unit at all. This is kings fault - no-one elses.

In many ways hes not helped himself by just being himself. Even though I wasnt a memeber of the KOB I'd find myself shouting at the radio about some of his post match comments. when you've just lost 3-0 at home to the likes of Colchester for example, the last thing you want to hear is your manager contridicting himself over and over again before going off at the most random tangent you have ever heard. You'd like to hear someone who sounds like they had a clue what went wrong.

The King era RIP - I dont hate you and you gave us some good memories. However your time had come to go. Lets hope this unites the fans.

I dont detect any feeling of unity so far.

While we are shit there will always be in fighting ,moaning and bitching.

I hope Iffy can change that but expect no change.

All I can say is that even McMahon didnt have this much adverse affect on the fans. With McMahon it all went sour very quickly. With King some people have always despised his management and his manner. This was not a normal situation. King has produced the most unbelievable, imbecilic, idiotic comments down the years and for some people its been too much to take.

I dont blame them. Its like some people on here cant even remmember what its like to be united because weve had this bitter cloud for so long. I had enough of King about 6 months ago to be honest and Ive had enough infighting at Swindon for a lifetime. The atmosphere at the club under Evans and Quinn was so much better. And I mean SOOOOOO much better.

Just hope things can get better and these players will start playing for the club, the fans and themselves because at the moment some of the performances are pretty pathetic. Fuck off Heath and Collins and get some team spirit.

Starting tommorow night. FIGHT, FIGHT WHEREVER YOU MAY BE!

I reckon that will be the case as well, they can't afford to pay him off. That's one of the reasons why they appointed Iffy as he's already on the wage bill so it's not costing us any more.

Ive been impressed with Heath though. :-))(

Nah, hes slow and lazy. Only had 10 minutes saturday and couldnt even be arsed then. Rather have Nicolau out wide anyday.

Now that i agree with.

under King we may have gone down.  i seriously think thats a given now. :(

dave, you've replaced DV85 as the pessimist! he's upbeat bout this whole thing!!!

singing i i Iffy Iffy i
singing i i Iffy Iffy I
singing i i Iffy
i i Iffy
i i Iffy Iffy i

 :beers:

i just dont see how this will help the club.

Sorry!! :D

Simply because Iffy, isnt King....

How could we have possibly been better off with King?

That would have developed into all out hatred on the terraces. He had to go. Deal with it.

Scapegoat? Maybe, but the top man is responsible. We cant buy a win away, but teams like Southend and Bradford are comming down here and winning. Thats unnaceptable. Why make excuses for a man who has now left the club?

Actually seeing his face on some of your avatars does make me feel sick.

The bloke was massive baggage for the club. If he had just had a little more tact he could have galvanised our fan base. But he wasnt really interested in doing that, it was the Andy King show, like it or leave it.

Egomaniac. Andy King is interested in Andy King. When Brady sacked him he was badly treated, but he said he's rather see the club go under than not get his money. He held the club to ransom to get re-appointed. How can anyone expect to be universally liked after that? Then he would excrete rage upon fans who didnt like him. Not much of a pro. We needed those fans Andy. You didnt, but STFC did. People defended him by saying you should support whatever, but it doesnt work like that (why should it?, half our problem with the ticket prices is the board take the loyal 5,000 for granted). He offended a lot of people.

And finally I dont buy this whole 'he was a character' BULLSHIT! That is the biggest load of BOLLOCKS I hear again and again. Who gives a fuck? If I want a character Il watch some muppet on saturday night TV. I just want someone to do a good job. I dont want a 'maverick' who pisses off half our fans. Thats why I defended him when he did well, but I wouldnt even bat an eyelid if he died tommorow. No sentimentality for the bloke.

Top stuff Spencer, i agree with every sentance. :)

That was spot on, bar the last sentence a bit harsh even for King I thought!

Agreed except under King we wouldn't have gone down.


I certainly don't remember the atmosphere when Quinn was here being any better incidentally, it was absolutely dire.

That a fact is it?




The atmosphere, last night was 10 times better than when King was here...

Considering we were nailed on going down it was good. Anyone remmember QPR away 2-1 defeat? We all spilled out onto the streets singing Wise Men. Thats never happened under Kingy, let alone after a defeat.

That was fucking ace that day!

The cops were arseholes that day - my dad nearly rang one in to report him. 8)

They were arseholes 2 years ago after rounding up every Swindon fan who left the ground and then escorting them back to Paddington, luckily we persuaded them that we were staying at my mates house in London.

I was in Spain that day on a stag do. :(

Was a great weekend though.

Anyone remember giving the Q.P.R. keeper(Lee Camp) that day constant abuse?

"Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"  :oops:

I think i do,was that the last time we played them?
I remember some blokes dressed up as mooney that day:( .

I was indeed, the support that day was superb. Although the team choked and played awful.

Agreed the support was fantastic ,it always is when we play in the big smoke.

That 1-0 defeat was one of 5 or 6 games in recent years where you could say it actually was off the head.

Fucking brilliant. Remmember a tackle on one of our players down in our corner and all the Town fans going mental.

I think so!!!!  I was in the lower tier of the school end I think.  wasn't sam parkin captain that day?

Im sure he told me he was when I was talking to him in the Nike shop earlier this year!

Reeves was awesome that game....

Guess it depends where you were sat. I had a season ticket just to the town end side of the nationwide that year and was unlucky enough to have a massive group of moaners sat right behind me who killed all atmosphere, the away games were better though. I did go to that qpr game and the atmosphere was good but it's always great going to qpr and it brings back memories of the away win in the premiership which was one of the best away games I've been too.

The Stratton side of the South was still good back then. Before the prices killed it.