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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4255086.stm

I thought Murali was the chucker?? He missed their last tour of Oz 'cos he couldn't take the stick he was getting!

Akhtar also had his bowling action looked at by the ICC, i think Akhtar's crap,Brett Lee is fast but at least he puts the ball into the right areas unlike Shoaib.

we'll have to rely on reverse swing aprantley..oh no..we have jones and hoggard to do that!  :?

"Shaib hailed the England's performance over the summer but warned they still had plenty to learn."

 Who the fuck does he think he is??

Wrong way round surely??!!

Lee averages 40 with the ball in the last 3 years, Shoaib about 25.

Shoaib is a superb bowler. Shame he can never keep fit for more than a session though.

Id sooner have Lee than Shoaib anyday, Lee can bat a bit aswell.

whats he on about Pakistan our shit! Just kicked there arse on Brian Lara aswell  :soapy tit wank:

Pakistan got absolutely hammered by the Aussies a few months back.

Away from home with an injury depleted side.

Anyone thinks the series against Pakistan isn't going to be fucking hard is deluding themselves

Being a big cricket fan, are you getting annoyed with all these bangwagoners talking the talk like they know what they are on about when really they dont?

I havent jumped on the bandwagon so i hope you werent putting me into that catagory!, i know Pakistan will be difficult i was just simply stating that the Aussies hammered them a while back.

I just meant people in general, nothing specific to anyone really...

Ok cos i havent jumped on the bandwagon, i can remember rushing home from School to see the end of the days play over the years.

I keep seeing the title of this thread and thinking it's about Cilla Black so to avoid further disappointment..

http://www.cillablack.com/cillabkgr-2005c%20copy.jpg

I'd like to jizz in her hair then play her mouth like a Xylophone.  Probably something by madness.

Well I suppose it can be annoying but I'd rather see people taking an interest but talking bollocks about it than no-one caring.

On the whole Lee/Aktar thing I rekon Lee is the better bowler now. Came out with real credit from that series. Well he's the one Id rather have in my side anyway.

As for cricket bandwagon jumpers, just enjoy it. To be honest you always get people talking bollocks at the cricket, especially England games. I remmember some conversations I had on monday, then read newspapers the next day and realised I had key facts wrong. So the people near me probably thought I was talking crap as well. Thats drinking lager and talking crap, at the Oval. On the day mighty England won the Ashes. That massive boost to our nations sporting pride and I was there!  :mrgreen: Not that Id ever rub it in.

Im glad i didnt go!, the place must have been full with Drunken yobs! :mrgreen:

For all Lee's guts and detemination he still averaged 40. Hugely disappointing return for a supposed strike bowler. He's just too wayward and inconsistent in Tests.

Edit: It's more than that though. He's just got nothing about him. He just runs in and tries to bowl as fast as possible. If you don't move it in Test cricket then you're going to struggle and Lee does struggle. His yorker-bouncer game works brilliantly in ODIs but it isn't enough in Tests particularly when you need to build pressure over a sustained period.

I think the media had been far too generous in handing out praise to Lee this summer. Yes he's gutsy, yes he's batted well, yes he's fast, yes he's exciting but he ain't good enough.

Yeah, I didnt rate him before. But he carried the Aussie pace attack at key moments in the series. His spell at Trent Bridge in the final innings almost pulled off a miracle for them.

His record isnt great, far from it. But I think this series might be the making of Lee, and Australia now need him! Just a hunch that he will go on and do well now.

Like you said Aktar/Lee Test career stats then no comparison.

And edit - Yes I admit I like him a lot more for his entertainment value. Those celebrations (Old Trafford-fridays last ball of the day), hitting batsmen with 95mph deliverys. Quality entertainment.

brett lee's main problem is that he's very fucking thick. did you see those three overs against pieterson on the final day of the fifth test? he bowled brainlessly and went for more than 30 (if i remember correctly), totally letting england off the hook.

australia were lucky that shane warne can build up pressure on his own otherwise england would've won a lot sooner.

is akhtar even in the pakistan squad anymore?

the one bowler we should be very afraid of is rana naved, he has been immense since arriving at sussex, his slow ball is almost in slow motion. fantastic strike rate. very very dangerous

Quality in ODIs but he's bowled like a donkey in Tests. Still he is very good and will be a threat like you say.

Shoaib hasn't been in the last couple of Pakistan sqauds because of fitness and then discipline issues but he'll be back for England.

Pakistan have a very good bowling attack; Shoaib, Rana Naved, Kaneria, Afridi and another seamer (Gul, Sami or Shabbir who are all a bit average). However, their batting implodes on a regular basis despite having Inzamam and Yosuf Youhana in their side.

Thats why i'm looking forward to this tour :) ,Pakistan are never dull to watch and they have great players but there is always potential for a major fuck up,and i think Inzamam is brilliant too.