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Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 16:08:50
......thats between 4 and 6 points YOU'VE cost us this week, CLUELESS

We played alright at Tranmere and lost, did we deserve to lose probably not. Didi 4-5-1 work, no it fucking didnt.

I love the fact that, King so far this season has always changed a winning side, but sticks with a losing side. Clever

I said as soon as we set off this morning, we play 4-5-1 and it will be a repeat of Tranmere. I said to a Dave & Marie at half time, this is Tranmere the second.

Did King see a Tranmere repeat coming, did he fuck....and guess what Walsall scored soon after half time, infact one minute difference to when Tranmere scored.

Call me fucking physic....

Again, King makes the change after the goal, reactive and about 56 minutes too late. On come Roberts, out on the wing....along comes Cureton out on the wing.

1-0 down 5 minutes to go, 4-5-1 with Roberts and Cureton on thw wings, what a waste. Roberts looked dangerous and was the only man willing to take players on. Roberts HAS to start next game, if he doesnt then all my faith in King is lost and I shall join the King Out Klan.

Again we played alright, lacking that final ball and killer touch.

I hate the fact we are playing to draw. You play to win, Winning is everything, 2nd place is just the first loser. Roll of all sayings. Play to fucking win King, dont play for a fucking 0-0 draw because we dont do 0-0

I saw that 1-0 scoreline coming, but King didnt

I put the blame for the last two defeats SOLEY on Andy King, time to buck up your ideas fuck face.


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 16:15:25
Well said.

PLAY TO FUCKING WIN!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 16:19:48
I don't think you can blame King for the result against Tranmere, 4-5-1 was something we hadn't tried before and he clearly did it to improve the midfield. In that respect it worked, but it failed miserably in the sense we lost the game despite dominating.

However, playing 4-5-1 away at Walsall - a team who conceded five goals at home recently - was fucking stupid.

King fucked up monumentally today, I think he realises it because Iffy did the postmatch interview.


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 16:22:01
Also, on a positive note, I thought Migz was pretty good today and despite missing all of pre-season still looked alot fitter than most....


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 16:22:58
I thought everyone played well enough, the system is just fucking wrong - that's the problem.


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 16:23:31
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
I thought everyone played well enough, the system is just fucking wrong - that's the problem.


Roberts has to start next week, really does....


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 16:24:24
I don't care who plays up front with Fallon, so long as it's a forward and it's not Thorpe!!!


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: Crozzer on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 17:55:42
I had no problem with the Tranmere formation, but Walsall aren't going anywhere this season.

We have more strikers at the C.G., than for a long time; Fallon, Roberts, Thorpe, Cureton, Caton, plus Holgate.  

If you have to play 4:5:1, you do need  a very fast and mobile striker (Linekar, and Allen, at Spurs were good examples when they used one striker), plus midfield players that can score.  Thorpe can play in midfield, why not use him if you have to play one striker, at least you have some one in midfield with the ability to finish.  

With two wingers in Shakes and Nicolau, plus an old fashioned center forward in Fallon, plus a bunch of, what could be described as inside forwards, the available personnel  scream for 4:4:2.  

If you are three up at half time, by all means go 4:5:1.  If you want to keep the first half close against a good oposing side, O.K., but for whole idea is to score more goals than the opposition over ninety minutes.  Going 3:4:3 to chase the game is a little silly, because, with 4:4:2, the fullbacks can play more forward and also ensure that the wingers runs forward are covered.

Am I behind the times, but the game used to be all about crosses from the wings, headers, knock downs, and goal mouth excitement.  If the ball is in the oposing box more than in yours, the percentages should dictate that you have more scoring opportunities.  Surely, this isn't rocket science.


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: Crozzer on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 18:16:58
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
I don't think you can blame King for the result against Tranmere, 4-5-1 was something we hadn't tried before and he clearly did it to improve the midfield. In that respect it worked, but it failed miserably in the sense we lost the game despite dominating.

However, playing 4-5-1 away at Walsall - a team who conceded five goals at home recently - was fucking stupid.

King fucked up monumentally today, I think he realises it because Iffy did the postmatch interview.



King wasn't at the game, he has a serious foot problem.


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: STFC_Chris on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 18:18:38
Quote from: "Crozzer"
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
I don't think you can blame King for the result against Tranmere, 4-5-1 was something we hadn't tried before and he clearly did it to improve the midfield. In that respect it worked, but it failed miserably in the sense we lost the game despite dominating.

However, playing 4-5-1 away at Walsall - a team who conceded five goals at home recently - was fucking stupid.

King fucked up monumentally today, I think he realises it because Iffy did the postmatch interview.



King wasn't at the game, he has a serious foot problem.

He was there on crutches according to the radio.


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: Crozzer on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 18:22:40
Quote from: "STFC_Chris"
Quote from: "Crozzer"
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
I don't think you can blame King for the result against Tranmere, 4-5-1 was something we hadn't tried before and he clearly did it to improve the midfield. In that respect it worked, but it failed miserably in the sense we lost the game despite dominating.

However, playing 4-5-1 away at Walsall - a team who conceded five goals at home recently - was fucking stupid.

King fucked up monumentally today, I think he realises it because Iffy did the postmatch interview.



King wasn't at the game, he has a serious foot problem.

He was there on crutches according to the radio.



I stand corrected, no reason not to do the post match interview.


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 20:07:33
King was there......


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 20:09:11
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
I don't think you can blame King for the result against Tranmere, 4-5-1 was something we hadn't tried before and he clearly did it to improve the midfield. In that respect it worked, but it failed miserably in the sense we lost the game despite dominating.

However, playing 4-5-1 away at Walsall - a team who conceded five goals at home recently - was fucking stupid.

King fucked up monumentally today, I think he realises it because Iffy did the postmatch interview.
Kingy wasn't there today was he? He is injured!


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 20:09:54
Quote from: "DV85"
King was there......


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 20:23:23
KING WAS THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 20:46:49
I saw him, though he was hard to see in his white shirt in a white dugout.


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, September 3, 2005, 21:35:31
sorry


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: Leggett on Sunday, September 4, 2005, 01:33:28
thew problem is, if king goes (and he should do if these results continue much past december) i can only really see them recruiting from inside the club, to save money... reeeeeeeeves as manager?  :|


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: DiV on Sunday, September 4, 2005, 14:21:51
Quote from: "Leggett"
thew problem is, if king goes (and he should do if these results continue much past december) i can only really see them recruiting from inside the club, to save money... reeeeeeeeves as manager?  :|


Sadly that is true, however if they really want to cost save then should hire me, I will glady do it for free


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, September 4, 2005, 18:07:48
This is all quite easy, make King director of football, Reevesy takes care of match days in the dugout, King stays in the directors box.  Reevesy can make "rub of the green" statements, "plus injuries hurt us," game of two halves," and "we are working on set pieces,"  etc. etc., "we managed to stay in front," they were saved by the paint on the crossbar," etc. etc.  While Reevesy gets his leg fixed prior to returning to the first team, Iffy can take over.  If the ref. has a stinker, say "you may think that, but I can't possibly comment."

After the Walsall game, Iffy sounded very honest, and credible, and didn't take 300 off the next home gate, by pissing off the audience.  The interviewer sounded more relaxed, as well.

Thee is a golden rule in coaching, do not publically criticize a player.  If you really have to, only do it after a win.


Title: Well Done Kingy.....
Post by: Leggett on Sunday, September 4, 2005, 18:44:45
Quote from: "Crozzer"
This is all quite easy, make King redundant, Reevesy takes care of match days in the dugout, King stays in the directors box.  Reevesy can make "rub of the green" statements, "plus injuries hurt us," game of two halves," and "we are working on set pieces,"  etc. etc., "we managed to stay in front," they were saved by the paint on the crossbar," etc. etc.  While Reevesy gets his leg fixed prior to returning to the first team, Iffy can take over.  If the ref. has a stinker, say "you may think that, but I can't possibly comment."

After the Walsall game, Iffy sounded very honest, and credible, and didn't take 300 off the next home gate, by pissing off the audience.  The interviewer sounded more relaxed, as well.

Thee is a golden rule in coaching, do not publically criticize a player.  If you really have to, only do it after a win.


sounds a bit better now :P