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Just a question really.  There seem to be a few rumours.  Twitter is very funny this evening.

The evidence is about as compelling as one of Chang's transfer rumours

It's still brilliant though

Seriously just check the hashtag #piggate.

Far be it for me to believe tittle tattle and hearsay, but I am still an immature prick who finds this utterly hilarious.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/what-if-black-mirror-but-too-much#.ncn2EzgO

well, that's all a bit odd.

I thought public school boys just buggered each other. dead pigs would be a new one.

Wasn't that a Black Mirror episode?

Yep.  Booker has denied knowing anything about it when he wrote the episode.

Charlie Brooker ‏@charltonbrooker  9h9 hours ago
Shit. Turns out Black Mirror is a documentary series.

Charlie Brooker ‏@charltonbrooker  8h8 hours ago
Just to clear it up: nope, I’d never heard anything about Cameron and a pig when coming up with that story. So this weirds me out.

Would be brilliant if true. I'm sure plenty of us on here have had our meat in a pigs mouth before, just not literally.

Still tame compared to the American college fraternity initiation rituals mind you

Cameron's statement was:

"I have no comment on any of it."

This is amazing.

That'll be him hogging the headlines foe a while then.

he's hoping something political comes up before PMQT but i bet he's forced bacon topic

Pretty humiliating stuff, I wonder if he'll be for the chop?

that would be a rasher decision

there's no smoked without fire...

All we can say for certain here, is that he definitely, definitely did it.

The pork swordsman.

What a stupid thing to do, he should have known somebody would squeal.

The far-left will have a field day with this - the Trotters will be all over it.

Did he ham fist it?

On first reading this this morning (I missed the fun on Twitter last night) I assumed it was some manner of tit for tat response for the news that Corbyn had a thing with Diane Abbott.

I suppose they always say there is nothing as bad as a multi million pound donor scorned?

Think I'd rather fuck the pig personally

Cameron, I presume, is getting ready to sue as clearly there is no truth in it and if he doesn't sue cynical people like me will presume its because its all true. 

Ill also presume its alright to routinely call him a pig fucker on every form of media and shout 'is pig fucker in' everytime I go past the houses of commons.

Why is it clearly not true? Isn't there reports there are photos

he caught Little Dave on the piggies teeth and had to rub on some oinkment

It's tongue in cheek.

I suspect he is using the common legal approach of saying nothing and therefore not acknowledging the existence of the story, I seem to recall that a number of footballers have used this when kiss and tell stuff has come out.

Yeah I was being a little sarcastic in that bit. 

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I think it must have been a simple misunderstanding....some one said "Dave, will you fuck a Bath chap?" to which he agreed, little realising it wasn't a fella.

The Conservative Party are now a threat to your livestock, the livestock of your family and the livestock of this country

I saw some interesting comment on twitter earlier.  Point being made was that 'elite' drinking societies such as the Bullingdon Club or Piers Gaveston Society (?) have these disturbing initiation rituals precisely because the members know that they're all going to be running the country 30 years in to the future...so it's to everyone's advantage there that everyone has dirt on everyone else.  It's an Oxbridge version of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction).  Interesting, and very wrong.

PMQs this Wednesday are going to be compulsive viewing.

Corbyn: I have a question from Julie in Basingstoke.  Can the Prime Minister confirm...

He is not denying it whilst the MI spooks run around destroying evidence. Unfortunately the CIA have the negatives. If he denies it he will be out by XMAS when the evidence is published for all to see. If he just stands up like any bloke of his age and says "I got involved with the wrong crowd and did some silly stuff when I was younger he may gain some respect". You will see full on denial once the evidence has been buried along with anyone that knows anything about it. Then Lord Ashcroft will be sued for defamation of character if he is still alive.
The CIA will have another puppet for there amusement just like the last 30 years worth of useless PMS.

There is a lot more to the "Special Relationship" than us worker ants will ever know.

Got any more conspiracy theories on you?

Not a conspiracy theory. Sadly just the way the world works and has worked for too long.

You're a cabbie in London, aren't you?

Don't let THEM steal your thoughts

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Nope........ Wish I was some days. They can use bus lanes you know  :)

Personally i don't give a flying fuck what colour rosette these people wear when trash like this is aired. As long as the country is being run properly it does not matter. None of them can run the country properly if they do not wear the rosette you think they should or the rosette of the party you think should.

Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone....................

What my occupation has to do with matters discussed on this Forum is totally inconsequential !!!!

I am waiting for Corbyn to say 'I have a question from here from Peppa - should I be nervous?'

A bit like the "Mutually Assured Destruction" theory earlier in the thread, this kind of theory  depends on the leverage remaining secret. Once the leverage is out in the public domain, the game's up, it's done. Your mark may be utterly destroyed but you've lost too. So while I wouldn't be so quick as others to discount your suggestion of black ops ITA, if that's what's going on they've spectacularly fucked up. The whole point is that it never goes public. Or you're blown (ahem!)


*"their". Sorry, but you keep doing that and it sets all my OCD triggers off.

I'm still a bit baffled as to how this is a thing.

Man "donates" a load of money expecting to be renumerated but wasn't. Man is annoyed. Is it not conceivable he'd make up something scandalous? And it was published in the Mail for Christ sake.

What am I missing that makes this believable?

And I'm your stereotypical loony lefty by the way (in most ways at least), I'd still punch Cameron in the dick. I just don't get why it's been taken seriously.

We are all more ready to believe things that confirm our prejudices(or are simply negative about people we don't like).

And it's funnier just to accept it as true, even if you don't necessarily believe it.

In the list of Cameron's crimes, a quick poke in a pig is a very long way from the worst. Move on.

move on? if the allegation of the British prime minister sticking his dick in a pig isn't something we can perpetually laugh at I don't know what is.
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of course it could all be made up for a laugh by someone. it does have a bit of 'Gok wan shoplifting in co-op' about it.

but it's a bloody odd thing to make up and publish. you'd think lawyers  may have stopped it going to print.

The reason its a thing is that its quite amazing that its hit the press at all.  I say press but it is that squalid little rag the Mail.

A very rich man makes an allegation against another very rich and powerful man.  Usually nothing would be published as there would be massive legal wranglings ensure it was tied up in court for ages.  Or the injured party would issue a statement saying its all shite and Im suing the bastard and if anyone mentions this I will sue them too.

However since it broke on Sunday night everyone it seems has been free to call David Cameron a pig fucker all over social media without fear of redress.

Mind you I only bought it up in the first place after going back to my computer and seeing this stream of pig fucker tweets.  It was, and still is, hilarious.

No, it is, you're right. But after the initial snigger, it's just another mildly surprising episode from posh boy's closeted past. It all contributed to him becoming the entitled, out-of-touch, old school Tory throwback that he is, which is the bigger problem for the country.

I'm sure DMR has done worse. #lad #banter


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The highlight seems to be the tangle many are getting themselves in regarding the source, on certain other forums many who have slagged others off for reading the Mail for years are now speaking of it as a legitimate paper and saying that it must be believed.

I am not going to believe a word until I read the pigs story serialised in Farmers Weekly.

The pigfucking aspect is (understandably) taking attention away from the serious political allegation that Cameron lied about when he knew about Ashcroft's tax dodging. Although I'm sure he'd rather that's where the attention was focused even if it is the more serious allegation.

One aspect he comes out quite well in is that this whole thing came out because Ashcroft thought he'd bought a seat in Cabinet and Cameron thought otherwise. Which is actually quite refreshing.

Well, the source isn't the Mail, it's Ashcroft's book. The credibility of the source really depends on whether you believe the publishers of his book would risk their entire business without some pretty substantial evidence to back it up.

Exactly, people seem to be saying that everything should be believed because Ashcroft is a bright and intelligent man - however he is just coming across as a big kid throwing his toys out because he didn't get his own way and throwing loads of shit around hoping some will stick - whilst actually incriminating himself quite heavily in parts.

If you read the whole pig thing it seems to be 'someone who I cannot name, told me this story which may not have even been Cameron doing it' if it was normal journalism in the Mail (and it meets their normal exacting standards) everyone would be saying it was bollocks!.

Incidentally why have the BBC thought it necessary to pixelate certain elements of the Mail front page this morning, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-34320934 I assumed it was due to the pig story but that features heavily in the other front pages featured with nothing pixelated?

Because book publishers are generally a lot more careful than the Mail. If they can't back this up, they're risking their business and possibly jail (as this may well meet the standard for criminal libel). If it was just an interview in the Mail with Spurned Cabinet seat buyer Ashcroft, I'd agree with you, but the publishers will have had this run past some fairly high powered lawyers.

At what point did the Daily Mash start reporting real news?

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/labour-flummoxed-over-what-to-about-this-pig-thing-20150922102161

Been doing a little reading about Ashcroft (he is one of those people who seems to have been on the periphery of the news for years but I knew nothing about), seems a lovely chap - also http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/belize-pm-warns-cameron-about-role-for-ashcroft-1830754.html suggests why the pig botherer didn't give him the job he craved - have a read on Wiki the fingers he has in pies (not sure if pork?) internationally is genuinely scary!

 :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBpQJ98rR4o

http://soundcloud.com/theiainduncansmiths/pigs-mouth-strikes-again-feat-david-cameron

Depends who owns the publisher and how much cash they have? Publisher is Biteback Publishing... Oh hang on?

http://www.lordashcroft.com/business/political-holdings-limited/

Fair dos. I withdraw any suggestion of credibility then! (I still think he did do it though, the whole thing rings true as an "initiation rite" for the posh dining clubs)

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I seem to remember that we had to communally use orange hats as wank socks to get rid of Diamond Mike. I think that was your idea Mr Davis?

It was nothing to do with getting rid of Diamond Mike, it was just to stop the floor of the office getting slippy.

soapy tit wank

'I'm no porkie pie teller,' says MP named as 'Pig-gate' suspect http://dailym.ai/1iTBwGW

Come on hands up who had assumed that the 'senior MP source who was a contemporary of Cameron' was Boris?

Is that the latest revelation in the Mail?