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I feel that Summerbee could bring more to the team in the way of experience, know-how and set piece ability than Heath, who after all is primarily a striker. I can't see him demanding a huge wage as he was on a pay-as-you-play contract at Leicester before joining debt ridden Bradford.

It would be a shame to see him leave so soon simply because King has bought in a relatively unproven, almost totally unknown youngster.

Tbh, it might push Buzzer into a big performance on Saturday, i thought he looked a little out of sorts/unfit probably, against Forest. I only want to see him stay if he brings quality to the side....didn't see enough last Saturday to make me think he could.....we'll see...

I agree, sign Summerbee for god sake King. :x

You have to remember that he's had no pre-season training whatsoever so lacks both match fitness and match sharpness, it will take him a few weeks to regain that. I thought the signs of quality were all too evident against Forest.

Its clear that he isn't going to get time though, which is ashame, because Buzzer is a legend in my eyes, but he is going to have to play well tomorrow to make King want to keep him

Especially as the young 'un he's brought it ain't no right winger! He's the sort of lad to play up front or as attacking midfield...bet buzzer wont want much money, like you say Bradford weren't exactly rolling it

As Sonic said, although he wasnt match fit....the quality was clear, few more games and he'll be even better....

Bradford were in the premiership not too long ago and I'd wager he had a decent contract there. Whether it's worth signing Summerbee depends on whether he impresses and whether we can afford him, Reg said he was poor in the reserves but it would be nice to see him here as he was a bit of a legend.

Not worth it if he won't be playing though as he'll be far more expensive than Heath, Heath plays as a right winger all the time, if he turns out to be class there's not much point.

They were also in administration not long after they were relegated, and released half their squad. Sumerbee will not have been well paid by league 1 standards at bradford. I'm still not convinced thers any ponit in signing him though

The caption under King's picture on that link should read, "Spare any change guv?"

I hope Buzzer stays BTW.

Summerbee wasn't playing for Bradford in the Premiership and they certainly weren't still offering big contracts after their relegation, they were skint. Asking Buzzer to play two games in four days, when as I've already said he's had barely any fitness work was a tall order. Personally I think he's already made an impact and deserves a contract.

I can't see him being that much more expensive than Heath and anyway, Heath plays right wing for Man Utd reserves despite being naturally a striker and we don't know if he's going to turn out to be class, especially if he was dross at Cambridge last season. We know Buzzer has the ability, talent and experience - much less of a gamble.

Yes but they were in administration because a lot of they're players were still on premiership wages, they released a lot of them but they'd still be amongst the highest payers in this division. They were not skint in the same way as we are.

Summerbee probably won't be that expensive now but may be more than we can afford, I am undecided as yet whether it's worth making it long term, I guess I don't really mind either way.

He's odviously going to be more expensive than Heath if Heath was free and it would seem he pretty much was.

Everyone was dross at Cambridge last year, 5 games for them playing in a absolutely shit team who finished bottom is not long enough to tell us anything.

It tells us that it's likely he's not going to be the next Lee Holmes. As far as I'm aware, Heath and Heaton aren't free? We're still paying some of the wages.

Buzzer is a solid player, just needs to get that fitness up! he brings good experience to the team!

and he's a fan favourite too

Does he have a chant? I didn't hear one last Saturday, can't remember one from his early days :?

Going off what Reginald said at the reserves game SSW greeted him like a long lost son.  Suppose if he does well and King has given him plenty of reason to with that interview then it wouldn't be to tough to get the board to loosen their strings.

I'd like to loosen Sandy Gray's string with my teeth and divorce it from those cheeks.

Yep bar some stinking performances, a King mystery moment or ridiculous demands he'll be staying.

Turned down Motherwell to be here apparently.

Heath and Heaton are only on 3 month loans, that  takes us till the end of November. After that it would be good to still have the option of Summerbee, despite being unfit the signs of quality were still there, given a couple of weeks to get fit I can see Fallon thriving on Summerbees passing.

Sounds like we can't afford to make the deal any longer, the board think he's a bit too expensive.

Was shocked that Summerbee wasnt even feature at all today...Heath didnt really show me anything on the right and at times today our final ball was awful.....we could have done with some summerbee like deliveries

He didn't even make the bench  :cry:

It would seem that Summerbee's wages would indeed be several times higher than both the loanees put together and the board aren't prepared to pay for a longer contract. Understandably he didn't feature today, I suppose there's a chance he may feature in the Wycombe game but I think the board have made their made their minds up.

Nice seeing him back here though.

and you know that for sure do you?

Nice to see Ed Hadwin licking Kings arse as per usual!, he basically said id sooner have Heath and Heaton instead of Summerbee. :(  Now i cant believe Summerbee would be on that much and obviously if Manure are paying alot of the other 2's wages then i dont see what the problem is?.

I agree. This is all specultaion and so ends my participation in this thread!

Wel that is essentially what King said, I would've thought if anyone knew it would probably be him.

Heath was basically a waste of money then.

He's only played one game......

Eh? It's been reported in the press, radio swindon etc. that by far the largest chunk of their wages which weren't that high anyway are being paid for by Man United and we are paying very little. So given that Heath has already started in a first team game, he would seem to be a bargain not a waste of money. Even if he barely plays it's not a waste of money.

If it prevents us from signing Summerbee then it's a total waste of time, money and a loan as well.

I doubt we'll come close to using up our loans anyway, we didn't last year. There was only a small chance of signing Summerbee long term anyway, that's why he had the trial period, King hoped to try and convince the directors he was worth paying for long term but if that's not possible then there's nothing we can do and blaming Heath for that is pointless.

How do you know we wouldn't have signed Summerbee if Heath didn't sign?

eh?

he might have more of an impact than lee holmeboy for all know

I think it's fairly safe to assume he won't have the same impact as Lee Holmes.

I wouldn't bet against it, there is nothing to suggest he's not capable of making a big impact, at least give the guy a chance!