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Title: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Topcat on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 19:15:05
Having browsed through various message boards from different clubs who have been known as our rivals and cant believe the hatred against us and the joy that we have not made it to wembley
Teams who really seem to dislike us are

Oxford -
Bristol city
Bristol Rovers
Gillingham
Reading
Aldershot
Brentford

I know that we have a long history with all of those teams apart from Aldershot & Brentford but I am really surprised of the anger against us even though we are not classed as a big club. Have we really upset them all over the years
Thoughts please




Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: nochee on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 19:15:59
Shrewsbury too


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Bewster on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 19:22:33
Plymouth


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 19:26:57
Saw a fair amount of hate from Tranmere earlier in the season too...

Edit: This seems a bit tame though:

http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/boards/read/s383.htm?730,14022398

http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/boards/read/s383.htm?730,14007939


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 19:27:41
I'm sure we all smiled to see City & Reading relegated, and probably would if Rovers had gone the same way.

We would all piss ourselves if Oxford suffered the same fate.

Brentford is surely just because they happened to be who we played, we would probably have taken the piss out of them had we have won.

The Pikeys has for the most part been a one way thing for years now. In the late 70's & early 80's just after the punch up at the CG we were a bit bothered, but most of us have moved on, unfortunately they don't seem able to. 

I guess it's because they don't have anyone else to have a rivalry with, which probably explains Aldershot as well.



Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: @mwooly63 on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 19:28:57
Not sure where the Aldershit one started- I know it got a bit tasty after the FRT semi when Fraser  got sent off and we lost.
Plymouth is obvious after one of theirs was killed in Swindon

Never really considered Reading in that way even tho as close as shitty or poxford


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 19:36:11
Recently the press have branded us as cheats.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Topcat on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 19:42:47
I'm sure we all smiled to see City & Reading relegated, and probably would if Rovers had gone the same way.

We would all piss ourselves if Oxford suffered the same fate.

Brentford is surely just because they happened to be who we played, we would probably have taken the piss out of them had we have won.

The Pikeys has for the most part been a one way thing for years now. In the late 70's & early 80's just after the punch up at the CG we were a bit bothered, but most of us have moved on, unfortunately they don't seem able to. 

I guess it's because they don't have anyone else to have a rivalry with, which probably explains Aldershot as well.



you make some good points and having been at the Aldershot game in the 80's as well as various Gillingham & local derbys against both bristols and oxford etc I can understand the hatred at those times as we would have been just as hostile but that was then when football was a scary place to go too and surely 25 - 30 years later time has moved on or has it been passed down from the dads to the sons


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 19:45:14
you make some good points and having been at the Aldershot game in the 80's as well as various Gillingham & local derbys against both bristols and oxford etc I can understand the hatred at those times as we would have been just as hostile but that was then when football was a scary place to go too and surely 25 - 30 years later time has moved on or has it been passed down from the dads to the sons

Back in the day you could make enemies by fighting and chucking bottles/bricks about etc. Now it's all about trolling on Twitter and on the Adver/Oxford Mail etc.  ::)


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Topcat on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 19:49:59
Back in the day you could make enemies by fighting and chucking bottles/bricks about etc. Now it's all about trolling on Twitter and on the Adver/Oxford Mail etc.  ::)

Thats true and reading the commemts in the adver most days we have to put up with a Bournemouth fan chirping on about how great and successful his team is


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:00:15
I'm actually quite proud if teams hate us. I took my daughter to Scumland for her first visit earlier this season. I told her to be proud to be Swindon and when the Scummers were singing we hate Swindon songs for her to soak up the hatred and be prouder.
Fuck all of them.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: @mwooly63 on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:05:49
surely 25 - 30 years later time has moved on or has it been passed down from the dads to the sons

Sometimes in the TE it seems like we are back in the 90s  :headhurts:
Singing about Joey Beauchamp ffs - most of em werent born when he struggled here


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Topcat on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:08:34
Sometimes in the TE it seems like we are back in the 90s  :headhurts:
Singing about Joey Beauchamp ffs - most of em werent born when he struggled here

dont forget he also got homesick when he signed for west ham and didnt stay there very long as the 50 miles was too far away from mummy


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Stegenfreud on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:14:01
More recently teams dislike us because of PDC and everything that came with him which made us an easy target. Then you have the press branding us cheats and shit radio progs like Jeremy Vine saying we were atrocious for letting Mcormick train with us. That and we had a good budget for a couple of years which attracts some grief.

Teams that hate us like Aldershot, Gillingham, Bournemouth and Tranmere make me laugh. Really? They must be desperate for a rivalry as I can't say any of them register on my radar as rivals. I actually find it quite funny.

For me our rivals are, in order of importance, Oxford, Bristol shitty, brovers and at a push Reading.

Other teams that attribute rivalries or dislike on us just make me chuckle.



Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: DMR on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:17:25
We don't.

All fans think loads of others hate their team.

It's like a weird superiority complex.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Topcat on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:17:41
More recently teams dislike us because of PDC and everything that came with him which made us an easy target. Then you have the press branding us cheats and shit radio progs like Jeremy Vine saying we were atrocious for letting Mcormick train with us. That and we had a good budget for a couple of years which attracts some grief.

Teams that hate us like Aldershot, Gillingham, Bournemouth and Tranmere make me laugh. Really? They must be desperate for a rivalry as I can't say any of them register on my radar as rivals. I actually find it quite funny.

For me our rivals are, in order of importance, Oxford, Bristol shitty, brovers and at a push Reading.

Other teams that attribute rivalries or dislike on us just make me chuckle.

I see on a Bristol city site they cant wait to play us and reckn they will bring 3500 here easily. How the mighty big city club have fallen





Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: @mwooly63 on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:23:00
dont forget he also got homesick when he signed for west ham and didnt stay there very long as the 50 miles was too far away from mummy

Didn't play a game for them IIRC
And if it weren't for the TE I would have forgotten all about him

Never understand why we continually sing about the pox no matter who we are playing  :badmood:


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:25:10
Never understand why we continually sing about the pox no matter who we are playing  :badmood:

Because they are the bile of football and we of a certain age hate them.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:35:11
Because they are the bile of football and we of a certain age hate them.
That's mild batch.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Topcat on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:35:58
Because they are the bile of football and we of a certain age hate them.

I read a quote fro a bristol city fan who went to thehome play off match against Brentford and hereckons that the first five songs that were sung were all anti Bristol songs so he was happy that we will be playing themnext season


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:36:51
True, I do hate City too. So its not all bad next year, we will beat them and be crowned best in the west.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:38:05
I read a quote fro a bristol city fan who went to thehome play off match against Brentford and hereckons that the first five songs that were sung were all anti Bristol songs so he was happy that we will be playing themnext season
One song sung half way during the game. 


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Topcat on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:40:19
True, I do hate City too. So its not all bad next year, we will beat them and be crowned best in the west.

according to them swindle as they call us are a mickey mouse club and the town is a shithole


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:42:08
according to them swindle as they call us are a mickey mouse club and the town is a shithole

Yes, but the Slave Traders have dillusions of grandeur where they think they are big enough to sustain a Premier League challenge. Thankfully the natural order has been restored.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Topcat on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 20:43:55
Yes, but the Slave Traders have dillusions of grandeur where they think they are big enough to sustain a Premier League challenge. Thankfully the natural order has been restored.

yes their not much bigger that the gasheads now and like us they wont be getting a new ground in the near future!!!


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: carbonwhite on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 21:16:34
Bloody pikeys have a one minded rivalry, they think it exists we don't even notice them.

We got some stick from some Depreston north end fans earlier in the year.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 21:55:36
Brighton


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 22:21:29
Because the TEF is a much better website than anyone else has.

Seriously, using this is an ergonomic dream compared to some of the sites other forums use.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 22:25:35
Because the TEF is a much better website than anyone else has.

Seriously, using this is an ergonomic dream compared to some of the sites other forums use.

One word: Cloudflare  :suicide:

 ;)


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 22:54:01
I'm sure we all smiled to see City & Reading relegated, and probably would if Rovers had gone the same way.

We would all piss ourselves if Oxford suffered the same fate.

Brentford is surely just because they happened to be who we played, we would probably have taken the piss out of them had we have won.

The Pikeys has for the most part been a one way thing for years now. In the late 70's & early 80's just after the punch up at the CG we were a bit bothered, but most of us have moved on, unfortunately they don't seem able to. 

I guess it's because they don't have anyone else to have a rivalry with, which probably explains Aldershot as well.


The more 'rivals' the better. adds to the games. If we spend 4/5 seasons in the same league as Coventry I can see something starting to develop...


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 22:56:11
We don't.

All fans think loads of others hate their team.

It's like a weird superiority complex.
Many other fans dislike us, there are league one pages/groups on facebook, Sheffield United and Swindon seem to be the most disliked teams.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 22:56:31
Wait, Aldershot don't like us? That has literally never registered on me.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 22:58:09
Who are Aldershot?


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 23:06:26
Who are Aldershot?

Readings traditional rivals.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 23:07:39
Yeovil don't really like us either.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 23:09:39
Yeovil don't really like us either.

Who are Yeovil?


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 23:11:50
Brighton, Tranmere, Bournemouth, Cheltenham....


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: OrangeTransits on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 01:01:20
True, I do hate City too. So its not all bad next year, we will beat them and be crowned best in the west.

Umm, Best in the West..... Lets just hope Brentford beat Yeovil at Wemberley then !!!!


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 06:28:45
Umm, Best in the West..... Lets just hope Brentford beat Yeovil at Wemberley then !!!!

Jesus, I forgot about sodding Yeovil.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Tails on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 06:34:15
Because we spent money and had a reasonable level of success. The hatred spews from jealousy. Anyone remember the shit Notts County got a few years ago when they spent a bit??


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 07:13:56
Because we spent money and had a reasonable level of success. The hatred spews from jealousy. Anyone remember the shit Notts County got a few years ago when they spent a bit??

Exactly, we were successful and high profile for a season or so, it will all calm down again.

Interestingly (no really) in the WSC Season review at the start of this season I expected all the D4 teams from last year to state they hated us for all the press Paolo's antics got etc last year and we were genrally respected.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 09:11:22
We are disliked by quite a few clubs, definitely noticed that at uni when wearing my town shirt.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 09:30:24
Exactly, we were successful and high profile for a season or so, it will all calm down again.

Interestingly (no really) in the WSC Season review at the start of this season I expected all the D4 teams from last year to state they hated us for all the press Paolo's antics got etc last year and we were genrally respected.

Indeed, in long term most of the teams (bar our traditional rivals) dont give a shit about us.

As DMR said we arent as important as we would like to think we are


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Langers on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 09:34:18
Brighton, Tranmere, Bournemouth, Cheltenham....

I think Walsall took a dislike to us last year as well.

It's what happens when you are successful. Over the last 2 years we have been rather good and other teams don't like that. I'm sure if we have a mediocre season next year, other teams will stop being bothered by us.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Dostoyevsky on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 11:20:03
We are disliked by quite a few clubs, definitely noticed that at uni when wearing my town shirt.

In my experience from day to day it's the big-club fans that take a dislike most when they learn of my allegiance to Swindon.

It's a power in numbers thing. I got the same grief at secondary school, being the only Swindon fan there. You're an easy target when you support an "unfashionable" club. Rather than be commended for bucking the trend and defying the temptation (though I never got the allure) of following Man United, Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal et al, you're more likely to be viewed with hostility and suspicion- as if you're diseased somehow. If they have a go at you they know that there's few, more likely no-one to back you up. You are on your own and must deal with the barbs thrown your way. It breeds character.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 11:24:02
I got the same grief at secondary school, being the only Swindon fan there.

I going to go out on a limb and say your choice of team probably had little to do with you receivcing grief


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Dostoyevsky on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 11:37:41
I set myself up there, was waiting for that. Nah, was very low profile at school.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Dostoyevsky on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 11:42:12
And Screwsbury are at it again:

http://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/83688/swindon-playing-budget#


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: farmer61 on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 11:48:38
Fuck all of them.
This


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Ticker45 on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:12:31
It has been said on here before that for years that Reading were the only real local rivals, followed by Rovers and then City. As for Oxford (Headington United) and Yeovil, they were not even on the radar being non-league. For years that was it until the Gillingham fiasco added them for a while and then the monetary shenanigans of Macari,s era really brought us into the limelight and that sowed the seeds that have been ever present with other clubs. Couple that with the recent PDC media circus (and SKY's obvious love for the man) then you get very envious other fans as our profile is currently much higher now. 


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: mystical_goat on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 17:23:57
As for Oxford (Headington United) and Yeovil, they were not even on the radar being non-league.

We joined the football league in 1963. Essentially nothing happened in the world before the 1960's, and Yeovil joined the league in 2003, so that's not a fair grouping.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 18:27:03
We joined the football league in 1963. Essentially nothing happened in the world before the 1960's, and Yeovil joined the league in 2003, so that's not a fair grouping.

Think you will find you were non league after 2003 :)


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: fuzzy on Tuesday, May 14, 2013, 11:51:56
I don't hate any particular team.

If they are not Swindon then they are ALL cunts. (Though I enjoy watching some other teams occasionally).

They don't like us?

Fuck em.


Title: Re: why do stfc have so may enemies
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 14, 2013, 12:37:21
We joined the football league in 2010. Essentially nothing happened in the world before the 1960's, and Yeovil joined the league in 2003, so that's not a fair grouping.

Fixed for you